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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome on and everybody. Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. I'm coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Saint Louis, which is quite a lovely place.

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Speaker 1: Going to be seeing a lot of you who are

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Speaker 1: in the area tonight, and we have much to discuss

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Speaker 1: as we break into the news cycle today. Let me

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Speaker 1: just give you a little bit of a a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a menu. We're doing news a la carte here,

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Speaker 1: many things to discuss. We have Elon Musk going to

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Speaker 1: host presidential candidate our FK Junior on Twitter. So the

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior phenomenon is not just disappearing. Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's getting more momentum. Clay and I

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Speaker 1: talked to you a bit about that yesterday. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into more of it. Gavin Newsom has a threatened possible

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Speaker 1: kidnapping charges against Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, because

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Speaker 1: of migrants who have been flown to Sacramento, California. Again,

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Speaker 1: Democrats continue to show everybody that migrants are such a

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Speaker 1: blessing wherever they end up, that anyone who puts migrants

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Speaker 1: in Democrat cities should be called out, shouted down, and

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Speaker 1: maybe even prosecuted, which as we all know, is completely nuts.

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Speaker 1: And then we also have Eric Adams saying that he

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Speaker 1: wants migrants to be housed in New York City in

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Speaker 1: private homes or in private places. And meanwhile, Clay, I

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Speaker 1: know there's the live golf phenomenon that you are going

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Speaker 1: to tell everybody about. I saw the headlines on this

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Speaker 1: and it was one of those It's Clay territory. So

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Speaker 1: Clay is going to make sense if live golf is

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Speaker 1: do you want to just give us We'll talk with

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Speaker 1: this in the second hour, But what's the twenty or

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Speaker 1: thirty second Pracie. I want to bring us back to

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Speaker 1: New York City and the migrants in California and Newsom

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Speaker 1: and DeSantis in a second. But live golf in the PGA,

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Speaker 1: what do we need to know? In brief? It's a

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Speaker 1: monster story.

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Speaker 2: I would bet that a huge percentage of our audience

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Speaker 2: either plays or watches golf. One year ago, the Saudis

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Speaker 2: backed a chief rival to the PGA, and now they

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Speaker 2: are merging and buck. What you need to know from

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Speaker 2: a big picture perspective, and we'll talk about this in

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Speaker 2: the next hour. Is everybody who's woke argued, how in

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Speaker 2: the world could you ever partner with the Saudis. You

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Speaker 2: can't do this, you can't leave and go to this

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Speaker 2: rival league. And then the PGA tour itself is now

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Speaker 2: partnering with the Saudis. Trump is involved. There's all these

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Speaker 2: different kind of sexy, fascinating components. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 2: in the next hour. But that news came down just

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of hours. Probably some people listening

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Speaker 2: to us right now like what they're merging that happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it in the next hour.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's something else, Clay, before I even

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Speaker 1: get us deeper into, I think we all see, and

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Speaker 1: it's in the future. It's down the line, and it

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Speaker 1: really we'll see how much it plays into this election cycle,

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Speaker 1: because I still don't believe, although I will say the

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Speaker 1: emails flying in fast and furious from our listeners who

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Speaker 1: are just they just refuse to believe Joe Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to be the nominee. It's really interesting. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this is more a function of the strength of

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Speaker 1: that belief or a broader a more broadly held position.

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Speaker 1: But the audience, there are a lot of people listening

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Speaker 1: who you know, it's they just they don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: They don't buy that Joe Biden's going to be the

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Speaker 1: nominee and we're still looking to see how that could change.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting my money. I got to come up with

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Speaker 1: some kind of a bet for audience members here. I'm

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Speaker 1: putting my money on It's still Joe. It's still Joe.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get into it. We'll get into more of

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Speaker 1: that Gavin newsom Ron DeSantis feud. This is even this

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Speaker 1: is a state issue obviously, even if it's not a

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Speaker 1: presidential election issue. But we'll talk about it. But it

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Speaker 1: kind of just to first, because you poured this out

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Speaker 1: that always has to say, yeah, we all know the

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Speaker 1: media superbias, right, Clay, Yeah, this was interesting. This is

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Speaker 1: from Tom Elliott's Twitter page. It's a montage and it

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Speaker 1: just shows you the difference between Joe Biden wiping out

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Speaker 1: Trump walking slowly, carefully. Play clip one. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: him for tripping it. It was a sandbag, so what

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Speaker 1: Does anything about this warrant the questions that, of course

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Speaker 1: we're seeing predictably in some quarters about his fitness for office,

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Speaker 3: I guess there was like a sand bay and Twitter

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Speaker 3: It's the most important thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: President Trump was very self conscious about that incident, and

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Speaker 1: he was quite concerned about falling.

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Speaker 4: He literally tiptoed down around at I believe this was

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Speaker 1: This week, Bruce Springsteen took a fall on stage and

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Speaker 1: he was on his back for quite a bit longer

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Speaker 1: than the president today. Is robust, is robust mentally, is

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Speaker 1: robust physically. And what happened with today could have happened

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Speaker 1: to anyone. Can we just say, Clay without even trying

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Speaker 1: to specify it, without even separating we all know when

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Speaker 1: they're talking about Biden versus when they're talking about Trump, this.

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Speaker 2: Is impossible for them to justify because they tried every time.

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Speaker 1: When Trump picked up.

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Speaker 2: A glass and his hand was shaking, as you heard

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Speaker 2: on that clip when Trump slowly walked down in dress shoes,

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Speaker 2: mind you, a sloping wet ramp at West Point. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, the general beside him was also walking

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Speaker 2: gingerly down a wet ramp in dress shoes. Anybody who

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Speaker 2: has ever walked anywhere Buck, in dress shoes on a

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Speaker 1: Biden almost fell at the G seven.

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Speaker 2: He regularly falls going up the stairs and down the

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Speaker 2: stairs on Air Force one, and this was a big fall. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Plus it all adds up because remember the data reflects

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Speaker 2: now that two thirds of Americans do not believe that

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Speaker 2: Biden has the mental or physical wherewithal to be president.

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Speaker 1: Of the United States.

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Speaker 2: When you combine that with the fall, it is a

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Speaker 2: monster story. And if we were ever going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the twenty fifth Amendment being invoked, and I don't

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Speaker 2: like the idea of doing it period because it effectively

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Speaker 2: wipes out actual presidential elections, but this would be the

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Speaker 2: time to be having those discussions.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: When you add up, remember Biden tried to talk to

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Speaker 2: a dead congresswoman. Remember when he called out for Jackie

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Speaker 2: wears Jackie, She's dead. Unfortunately, Joe Biden, she's been dead

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Speaker 2: for some time. He can't read off the teleprompter. You're

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent right, Buck when you talk about they

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Speaker 2: think the mask was a calculated move because it helped

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Speaker 2: and they just don't apply the same consistent standards, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to call it out.

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Speaker 1: I want to call out woop Be Goldberg on the

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Speaker 1: something because I caught this when I was doing my

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Speaker 1: Senator Scott did a phenomenal job yesterday on the View.

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Speaker 1: We played that big SoundBite where he just he just

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Speaker 1: is still so racist and we haven't made tremendous progress,

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Speaker 1: and race relations are going in the wrong direction. All

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Speaker 1: this stuff. He totally shut that down. I think Joy

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Speaker 1: Bayhar wasn't. There wasn't Joy Bahar the one who said

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Speaker 1: that Senator Scott does not know what it is to

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they used to come on Buck

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Speaker 1: or do you think it was coincidental, Maybe she was

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Speaker 1: and then she's not there for the interview. I think

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Speaker 1: the producers, I think the execs made a decision that

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Speaker 1: like they were willing to deal with what had been

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Speaker 1: said on their show. Right. I mean, it's like if

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here, Clay, and you know, we we call

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Speaker 1: because you're out that day to interview him like that.

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Speaker 1: You know that doesn't count, right, It's like you got

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Speaker 1: So I just noteworthy. They can tell us whatever they

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not gonna be here Wednesday, Thursday

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Speaker 1: Right, let's go ahead and may let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: follow that up because if for some reason the people

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I think either.

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Speaker 2: Joy Behar refused to go on because she felt like

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Speaker 2: the show was being disloyal, which to me is a

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Speaker 2: really interesting story. Or producer said, hey, this is a

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Speaker 2: and told the black guy what he could believe. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's a good Monday for you to take off. I

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Speaker 2: and discussion here was. Now, maybe she's out the whole

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Speaker 2: I were Joey Bahar, I'd be like, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: I'd want to be here. He was in the Hampton.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't make it in on this Monday.

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Speaker 2: We check the staff check. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: what time the views on. I think they're on around

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Speaker 2: the same time as us. Will somebody check and see

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Speaker 2: if the dumbest woman on television is back in her

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Speaker 2: They said, buck, oh spicy.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, come on I think this is getting pretty

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Speaker 1: They tried to a little switch here. Oh yeah, we'll

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Speaker 4: The New York Times published an article called the Complicated

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of.

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Speaker 2: You hanging out with us. Yesterday we talked about Chris Sununu,

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Speaker 1: You've all created a situation where, God, what what kind

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Speaker 3: Well, personally, I think we've married nobody believes it believe.

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Speaker 3: very clearly that Pudin and the Kremlin did intervene in

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Speaker 1: So we know that is true.

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Speaker 3: But you may think that they shouldn't engage in this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to re relitigate you know, the

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Speaker 2: Russian collusion nonsense that went on for two years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Democrat base still believes that. You notice the

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Speaker 1: Putin intervened in the election. What does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 1: And what you'd find is that how it translates still

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Speaker 1: Intervention in an election is so broad as to be meaningless,

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Speaker 1: and this is a tactic of propaganda. It's really a

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Speaker 1: So what happens is, you know, I could take a

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Speaker 1: But this is a fantasy that they will not let

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Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind there were billions of dollars spent,

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Speaker 2: the reality is that that that is such a pinprick

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Speaker 1: Or another version of this would be, you know, Clay,

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Speaker 1: If anyone thinks they've given them up, they have absolutely

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned the jaywalking thing. Just by the way,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Jan, when I see the Jan six prisoners,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there might be a history of Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: jaywalking violations from around circa ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: before the turn of three, turn of the century. Now,

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Speaker 2: as they say it, but that guy was the greatest

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Speaker 2: most Looney Tunes jaywalking cop that I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life. So yes, there may be documented records of

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Speaker 2: me being a jaywalker, I am, in that respect a criminal.

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Speaker 1: A smooth criminal indeed, sir, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't expecting the Michael Jackson reference. That's going to be

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Speaker 2: a media Matters headline later. Buck Sexton praises.

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Speaker 1: Tv IT sexual assaulter Michael Jackson an unprecedented attack upon

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Speaker 1: American moral virtues. I do ask people sometimes I'm like,

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Speaker 1: do just did we just decide we're not? Because sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'll hear Michael Jackson songs at a party and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: is everyone okay with this? Or where are we on this?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, everybody stopped R Kelly, But I think

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Speaker 2: that was a function of R. Kelly's music wasn't really

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Speaker 2: that good. I don't think anybody's canceled Michael Jackson. I

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Speaker 2: still hear Michael Jackson all the time. It just didn't

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Speaker 2: work his music was I always say, Buck, as long

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Speaker 2: as your talent exceeds your problems, you're okay.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson's talent, even with the allegations against him, exceeded

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Speaker 2: his problems.

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Speaker 1: Also, he died before he.

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Speaker 2: Was ever convicted of anything, which is I think also

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Speaker 2: what others point to. I watched that finding Neverland Doc.

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Speaker 2: That was a tough watch. I'm not gonna lie. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't get through it. Yeah, I couldn't get through it.

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Speaker 1: It just because it was so it was so hard

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Speaker 1: to watch. It just was like I can't.

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Speaker 2: And also it feels unfair on some level just to me,

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Speaker 2: when someone dies and they aren't able to defend themselves

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Speaker 2: at all, and then you come back and just eviscerate

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Speaker 2: them and there isn't really anybody there to speak out

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Speaker 2: in your favor that I watched it.

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Speaker 1: If it's true, it's awful.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But man, that is a uh a scenario where I

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Speaker 2: think his music's going to go on just because it's

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Speaker 2: so good, irrespective of what the artist may have done

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Speaker 2: in his past life.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I also think this is a tough question for the

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Speaker 2: woke universe out there, because pretty much every artist, if

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Speaker 2: you go through every aspect of their life, whether it's literature,

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Speaker 2: whether it's whether you know, painting, whether it's music, they

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Speaker 2: have something pretty bad, right, Like it's hard.

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Speaker 1: To likely Costo to drive two of his wives to

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Speaker 1: go back, you look at a lot of yeah, bad things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Van Go wasn't exactly a guy that you'd

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Speaker 2: want to bring home to mom and dad if you're

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Speaker 2: out there in the dating universe, right, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: almost impossible to find artists who are completely clean, especially

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck right now, everybody, thanks for rolling with us.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things we're gonna get to this hour

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Speaker 1: interesting the Trump prediction about live golf and the PGA

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Speaker 1: that's getting a lot of play now, Clay, I see

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Speaker 1: this a prediction that our owned Clay Travis also made

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Speaker 1: last before Trump.

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Speaker 2: I give credit to Trump, but my prediction on Fox

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Speaker 2: News was a full month before his prediction.

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Speaker 1: Great mind can think alike. Just FYI, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you and the Trump stur fight that out at the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth hole. That's up to you, guys, next time you're

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Speaker 1: playing golf together. But Trump is predicting as well. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of predictions, Hunter Biden will get charged with something small

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Speaker 1: to make their strike on me look fair. I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to think that some of Trump world's listening to the

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Speaker 1: radio show here, buddy. But can I just say for

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Speaker 1: Clay already say before for settle with the victory. I

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Speaker 1: can already see the victory dance. You know he's about

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Speaker 1: to start getting going. I have always said that their

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Speaker 1: plan is to do something that just means no jail,

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Speaker 1: that the special treatment will be deferred prosecution, something that

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Speaker 1: doesn't involve any prison time. That is the if they

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Speaker 1: go for prison time, I'm wrong. If Hunter spends time

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Speaker 1: in prison, I miss this one. So I think Trump

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Speaker 1: is probably right on this, but do they feel they

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Speaker 1: need that to balance it out? Clay Well, Maggie Haberman

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Speaker 1: of the New York Times is talking about sources telling

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Speaker 1: her in Trump World that Trump. Now this is from

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, so take it for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: But Maggie Haberman has had a lot of access to

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Speaker 1: Trump and Trump World. That's just a fact that Trump

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Speaker 1: expects that there will be federal charges against him in

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Speaker 1: the mar A Lago documents case too. So do you

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Speaker 1: make of all of it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We've said for a while that we think there

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Speaker 2: are going to be charges against Trump, and some people

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Speaker 2: get mad when we say we think they're going to

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Speaker 2: be charges against Trump. Understand, this is not Buck and

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Speaker 2: myself making decisions for the Department of Justice about whether

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Speaker 2: or not to charge. This also is not us saying,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Joe Biden's alleged crimes are far worse. Right,

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Speaker 2: we agree with all that. I'm just I believe you

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Speaker 2: referred to my prediction, and I don't know when I

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Speaker 2: first made it, but it might have been a year

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Speaker 2: ago that Hunter Biden would get charged and it would

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Speaker 2: be the fig leaf that allowed the Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: to argue that Merrick Garland that he would say, whether

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Speaker 2: you're the son of the president or the former president,

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Speaker 2: nobody's above the law. And I'm not sure what the

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Speaker 2: significance of the charges would be against Hunter. I think

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Speaker 2: that Trump is right, and I think I've said I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying they're going to try to lock the key

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Speaker 2: and throw him away, right, But I believe Buck, I'm correct.

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Speaker 1: Again, we can go to the transcripts.

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Speaker 2: I believe you said that was the equivalent of not

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Speaker 2: just calling a home run, but calling a home run

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Speaker 2: in the absolute upper deck of the stadium, that you

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Speaker 2: were going to plant the ball there. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the way they're going to do it. And this is

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Speaker 2: me trying to get inside of Merrick Garland's head and

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Speaker 2: if he is truly undertaking what is an unprecedented, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, unjustifiable expansion of political warfare that we've never

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Speaker 2: seen in two hundred plus years in this country. To

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Speaker 2: try to put your chief political adversary in prison, using

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice and the FBI to do so,

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Speaker 2: of the sitting American president, he and his mind. Buck

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Speaker 2: as a lawyer has to convince himself that this is

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Speaker 2: a justified action, and that Trump's behavior is so egregious

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Speaker 2: it's worthy of doing so.

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Speaker 1: But he wouldn't have to think of this in terms

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Speaker 1: of trade offs. If no one's above the law, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether this is done to Hunter Biden or not.

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Speaker 1: If Trump broke the law, no one's above the law.

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Speaker 1: So I don't see it as as a It's not

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Speaker 1: a legal rationale. It's a political rationale masquerading as a

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Speaker 1: legal rationale. Okay, it's it's a great point. And here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of lawyers who care desperately what

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Speaker 2: other lawyers think about them. You know, you know how

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Speaker 2: a profession sometimes judges itself more aggressively than it does

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Speaker 2: like the general public. There are lots of lawyers, and

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland as one, that want to be extremely esteemed

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Speaker 2: by other members of the bar. And I think in

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Speaker 2: his mind, again, this is me trying to get in

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Speaker 2: Merick Garland, the Attorney General's mind. If he just charges Trump,

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Speaker 2: it looks like he is just the hatchet man of

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. And I can give he doesn't want that buck.

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Speaker 2: I think he wants this idea of I am he

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Speaker 2: wanted to be a Supreme Court jests.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is me inside his head telling you what

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Speaker 1: I think he's so. I have a very different view

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Speaker 1: of Merrick Garland, right, this is just based on his actions.

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Speaker 1: I think Merrick Garland is the guy who was willing

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Speaker 1: to go along with the parents at the teacher meetings,

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Speaker 1: at the school board meetings. Are domestic terrorists that need

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Speaker 1: to be investigated. I think Merrick Garland is a guy

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Speaker 1: who is deeply embittered to this day because of the

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Speaker 1: bet that really the Democrats gave to the Republicans, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, or Mitch McConnell decided that he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to get the upper down vote in the end of

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration, and they figured, oh, fine, Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 1: that was our moderate pick, which wasn't even true. Just

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Speaker 1: as an aside, but when we have President Hillary, we're

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Speaker 1: going to get a really great judge in there, and

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Speaker 1: he lost out, and I think he's bitter about that.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that he's somebody who at this point,

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Speaker 1: I mean even people, I'll tell you this. Any McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: our friend who comes on, you'll know him. Fox News

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Speaker 1: Southern District prosecutor for decade's he was a Merrick Garland's

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Speaker 1: pretty I talked about this many years ago. He's like

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Speaker 1: a Merrick Garland's pretty close to being a moderate. If

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Speaker 1: we got Andy on now, based on what he's done

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Speaker 1: under the Biden administration, he'd say Merrick Garland is a hack.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's you know, so I think things have changed

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Speaker 2: that take I get totally buck. And again, what I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking is Merrick Garland is what is he like sixty five?

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Speaker 2: That's my guess. Staff can let us know exactly how

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Speaker 2: old he is. My point on that is he's not

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Speaker 2: a young man who's got a long career. This is

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Speaker 2: probably the last job that he's ever going to have,

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Speaker 2: and so in his mind, and again this is me

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Speaker 2: trying to get in Merick Garland's mind. You guys out

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Speaker 2: there may think this is crazy. I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 2: Having spent time around older lawyers, they start to think

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Speaker 2: a great deal about their legacy. And the legacy is

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Speaker 2: often defined by the precedents that they set that future

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Speaker 2: attorney generals will look at, that future lawyers will study

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Speaker 2: in law school. Right, I think he is desperately concerned

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Speaker 2: about what his legacy he is. And if he just

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Speaker 2: he's gonna turn seventy one, he's even older than I

657
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Speaker 2: thought he's gonna be seventy one in November.

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Speaker 1: I also charging a charging the leading Republican presidential contender

659
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Speaker 1: who's a former president, and charging the sitting president's crackhead

660
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Speaker 1: son is not the same thing. It's not in the

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Speaker 1: same universe, even apart from even apart from the crimes,

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Speaker 1: even apart from everything else. So I don't understand this.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't the argument of like if he was sitting around

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Speaker 1: with the fancy lawyers in the smoke filled room and

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Speaker 1: he's like, see you guys, I'm so even handed. That

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Speaker 1: argument's preposterous. And I don't even think he really cares

667
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Speaker 1: it matters to him. And if he's seventy one and

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Speaker 1: this is the last job that he's ever gonna have,

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Speaker 1: if he's going to undertake a truly unprecedented act, I

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Speaker 1: think he wants the fig leaf of I applied justice evenly,

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Speaker 1: whether it was the president's son or it was the

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. I'm telling you that I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be his talking point. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong and he's gonna be totally partisan, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: Trump's gonna get charged, but I think he wants that

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Speaker 1: fig leaf. I think that's also why they like the

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Speaker 1: fact that Mike Pence had classified docsbuck, because they're also

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Speaker 1: going to say, and we're not just charging Trump because

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Speaker 1: he's a Republican.

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence is a Republican running for president. He had

681
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Speaker 2: classified documents too, but he handled it the right way.

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Speaker 2: Double fig leafs.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they need fig leafs. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he cares. I don't understand. Let me hold hold on,

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, Hold on a second, Hold on

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Speaker 1: a second. So the Mike Pence thing and that Joe

687
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Speaker 1: Biden classified documents are effectively exactly the same. So no

688
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Speaker 1: person would look at what happened. They had some loose documents,

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Speaker 1: you know, around that were not secure. That's it classified.

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Speaker 1: Those charges, or rather those circumstances for charges, are for

691
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Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, exactly the same. So it is

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Speaker 1: impossible to even pretend that there's a rule of law

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Speaker 1: if you're going to charge Mike Pence and not charge

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden for it, not going to charge Trump for

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Speaker 1: the documents. As we all know, the belief is and

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't charge him at all. We don't know,

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Speaker 1: but people have people are thinking that it's gonna be charges,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be around obstruction of the documents. Now,

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Speaker 1: assuming that that's true, they'll just say the obstruction is

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Speaker 1: the problem, not the rest of it. And I also

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Speaker 1: just think Clay, this has been building for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable when you think about how many Republican politicians

703
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Speaker 1: have faced either investigation of a criminal nature or even

704
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Speaker 1: a prosecution that's completely outrageous and obviously partisan. Him and

705
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Speaker 1: you go down the lit Chris Christy, who's running member Bridgegate.

706
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Speaker 1: They got to lock him up. It's horrible what he

707
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Speaker 1: did with the with the traffic jam, Scott Walker, the

708
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Speaker 1: John Doe investigations, Rick Perry wanting to fire a prosecutor

709
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Speaker 1: who was drunk driving. It's felony, abuse of power. Bob

710
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Speaker 1: MacDonald and Virginia when he was the governor. The Supreme

711
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Speaker 1: Court had to say, you can't act. She just throws

712
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Speaker 1: someone in prison because he was hanging out with somebody

713
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Speaker 1: like that's not really a thing. Of course, Russia Trump

714
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Speaker 1: collusion and all that with the Special Council, they have

715
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Speaker 1: been building to this for over a decade and this

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Speaker 1: this is actually a perfect transition. What does Gavin Newsom's

717
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Speaker 1: fall back when he's getting into this public spat with

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis kidnapping charges. There have been a couple of flights,

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Speaker 1: a couple of flights of migrants that have ended up

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Speaker 1: in Sacramento, California, and the the governor of California has

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Speaker 1: said openly, Now, I mean, this is the feud that

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Speaker 1: is spilling out into you know, into into public view

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Speaker 1: for everybody. The headline here is Newsom threatens to Santis

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Speaker 1: with kidnapping charges over migrant flights to Sacramento, Clay. This

725
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Speaker 1: has become completely normalized for Democrats. Now instead of Newsom

726
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Speaker 1: saying my policies are better than yours, it's maybe we're

727
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Speaker 1: going to try to extradite the governor of Florida to CALIFORNI.

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Speaker 1: You're under kidnapping charges. Also, offering someone a free ride

729
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Speaker 1: is not kidnapping. This is you don't have to be

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Speaker 1: a lawyer to get this one. This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a uh, this is a preview of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. Gavin Newsom is obsessed fatal attraction style

733
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Speaker 2: with Ron DeSantis, Like go look at Gavin Newsom's Twitter feed.

734
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Speaker 2: He is constantly responding to everything Ron de Santis does.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's in the event that Biden doesn't run,

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Speaker 2: and in the event that something happens with Trump in charges,

737
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Speaker 2: and everybody expects that we're gonna get Trump Biden part two.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, in the event that we end up with

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Speaker 2: something different than that, I think a DeSantis versus Newsome

740
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Speaker 2: matchup is not out of the question. And and here,

741
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Speaker 2: Buck is a upper deck. Here is a called shot,

742
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Speaker 2: the likes of which you have not ever come.

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Speaker 1: Shot.

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Speaker 2: I'm going into this all right, I'm gonna tease this

745
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Speaker 2: if if I get this right, we got to think

746
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Speaker 2: about what sort of payoff this would be. This is

747
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: like hitting a parlay. For those of you who are gamblers,

748
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Speaker 2: this is like hitting a sixteen parlay. I have got

749
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Speaker 2: an incredible theory that I am going to share with

750
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Speaker 2: you surrounding these allegations and criminal investigations and everything else

751
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Speaker 2: on the next segment, and.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start We're gonna start clipping all of these moments,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna start betting things. I don't know. Clay

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Speaker 1: has to do the show with a mustache for six

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Speaker 1: months instead of his beer PGA thing. I'm I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying it's a good day. But I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even that's you know, there's no opposition to that one,

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Speaker 1: even care less. I'm glad you nail that though you

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Speaker 1: did nail it. Although they're saying that Trump nail did Clay.

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Speaker 1: So let let's not for Trump. Is that great mind

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Speaker 1: sometimes think alike? As we well know. There you go,

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Speaker 1: all right, switching gears, folks. Look, I pay attention to

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Speaker 1: important things out there, just like you do too, to

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Speaker 1: front Lines of Truth. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back in play Travis buck Sexton show. We're joined now.

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Speaker 2: Cool guest. He's in our New York City studio. You

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Speaker 2: can watch him I Believe on video if you are

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Speaker 2: one of our VIP subscribers. Coach Bill Courtney, who just

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Speaker 2: launched a new podcast on iHeart called an Army of

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Speaker 2: Normal Folks. He's also the subject and I love this movie.

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Speaker 2: Some of you may have seen it. Won an Oscar

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Speaker 2: in Documentary the documentary category called Undefeated.

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Speaker 1: Author of against the Grain.

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Speaker 2: And I want to start, Coach with the movie Undefeated

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Speaker 2: for those of you out there who are looking for

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Speaker 2: something that you might want to watch with your family.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen this, it's the story of Bill

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Speaker 2: and a inner city Memphis team and their quest to

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Speaker 2: try to win a state championship. And really, you seem

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Speaker 2: to agree to which And this is why I was

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Speaker 2: so fired up about COVID shutting down so many schools,

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Speaker 2: a huge percentage of boys, And I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of you out there listening know exactly what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: and I want you to explain it for people who may.

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Speaker 1: Not see it.

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Speaker 2: Coach, A huge percentage of boys out there, especially in

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Speaker 2: inner cities, stay in school so they can play sports.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the truth. And you hope the

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Speaker 1: light bulb is going to go off at some point.

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Speaker 2: Basketball football, but whatever the sport is, Coach, what did

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Speaker 2: you see and how important when that movie Undefeated came out,

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Speaker 2: which won an Oscar and it's fabulous. I encourage you

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Speaker 2: guys all to watch it. How much does just playing

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Speaker 2: a sport help to keep so many kids out there

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Speaker 2: on the straight and narrow and even enrolled in school period.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the hook. I mean, I can't tell you

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Speaker 5: how many people have come to me and said, you know,

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Speaker 5: I've tried to do this, I've tried to do that.

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Speaker 5: How do I reach this segment of people or this

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Speaker 5: segment of people and the answers. You got to have

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Speaker 5: a hook? And the hook for me was football. And

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Speaker 5: you're absolutely right. A lot of kids, obviously they have

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Speaker 5: it backwards. They're not in school to play football, they're

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Speaker 5: in school to learn. But the true candor is the

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Speaker 5: football is the hook, and that hook gives you an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to reach them on things that will hopefully last

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Speaker 5: long after football ends.

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Speaker 1: Coach Bill, it's buck, thanks for being with us. So

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Speaker 1: Clay has been it. Thank you, Thank you. Clay has

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Speaker 1: been educating me on this PGA Live merger. A lot

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Speaker 1: of big headlines all across the internet. Some people very

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Speaker 1: very fired up over this. What do you think? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're a guy who knows sports, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a pot purry of gravy and mashed

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Speaker 5: potatoes mixed up with egos that God only knows what

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Speaker 5: that's going to taste like when it's over with frankly.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a lot of money, a lot of ego,

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Speaker 5: a lot of posturing, and you know, it's amazing. It's

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Speaker 5: almost like politics. How people can sit there and tell

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Speaker 5: one another how bad they don't like each other and

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Speaker 5: how much they distrust each other and how evil one

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Speaker 5: another are, and then somehow turn around and end up

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Speaker 5: in a in a bowl together. Yeah. I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I think I think people should check their

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Speaker 5: egos at the door a little bit and avoid some

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Speaker 5: of what those guys are going through right now.

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Speaker 1: And would you tell us what you launched a podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeart last month, an army actually normal.

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Speaker 5: Actually today guys today, I'm yeah, I've been working on

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Speaker 5: it for a year, actually doing interviews and all, but

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Speaker 5: the first launch today on iHeart and it's yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: an army of normal folks. And yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 5: sounds goofy, but that is in all of our urban areas.

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Speaker 5: We drive around the cities and there's these exits or

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Speaker 5: all ramps or viaducts where you really don't want your

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Speaker 5: car to break down or you have a flat tire,

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Speaker 5: and you kind of look over the edge of the

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Speaker 5: viaduct as you pass by and you think, man, somebody

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Speaker 5: ought to do something about that one day as you

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Speaker 5: kind of peer down at the despair and the disenfranchisement,

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Speaker 5: the poverty and the brokenness that continues to plague our

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Speaker 5: society and culture today, as if that sentiment matters. And

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Speaker 5: I don't think the sentiment means a damn thing. Frankly,

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Speaker 5: I think you got to tilt that rearview mirror about

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Speaker 5: thirty degrees and look yourself in the face and say,

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Speaker 5: you know, I ought to do something about that one day.

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Speaker 5: I think government has proven woefully inadequate in caring for

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Speaker 5: the most disadvantaged among us. I think it becomes paternalistic.

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Speaker 5: I think we strip people of the dignity and value

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Speaker 5: of hard work. And I think the more government, the worse.

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Speaker 5: And I think you can say that, but you're hypocritical

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Speaker 5: to say that if then you're not willing to get

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 5: off your butt and go do something in your communities

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00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: about things that that you can that you can do.

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Speaker 5: And so we've created this podcast called an Army of

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Speaker 5: Normal Folks, and we are interviewing I just don't think

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Speaker 5: the world's problems are going to be solved by fancy

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00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 5: people on Fox and CNN using big words that nobody understands.

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Speaker 5: I just I think I think we have a lot

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Speaker 5: of dysfunction in DC. And you know, we have sought

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Speaker 5: out average, normal folks who have done extraordinary things in

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Speaker 5: their communities. And we're telling those stories. And we're not

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Speaker 5: telling those stories in a hallmark way with a pretty

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00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: bow wrapped up on it. All of us have failures

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00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: and inhibitions and goals and dreams and sadness and excitement

888
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: our life, and so we kind of unpack each of

889
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 5: these individuals worlds where they came from and not why

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00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 5: they did something good, because they're so wonderful, but really

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Speaker 5: what they overcame to be active in their communities and societies.

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Speaker 5: And we tell those stories each week, and the idea

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Speaker 5: is hopefully it's not only redemptive, but inspirational, and it

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Speaker 5: motivates all of us to say, I don't care if

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Speaker 5: we're right, left, black, white, green, blue, Christian, Jewish, agnostic, whatever,

896
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Speaker 5: the one thing we all can do together is be

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Speaker 5: an army of normal folks serving those in our community.

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Speaker 2: Coach last question for you your story Undefeated, and I would

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Speaker 2: encourage people to check out the podcast at iheart's distributing

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Speaker 2: an army of normal folks. But you in the movie

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Speaker 2: Undefeated spent obviously a huge part of that story is

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Speaker 2: Memphis right What can you tell us about what's going

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Speaker 2: on in the ground in Memphis right now? This show

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Speaker 2: is number one, I believe in the Memphis area. Tons

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Speaker 2: of people are listening there right now. Memphis has had

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Speaker 2: a brutal past several years. Your story was before COVID,

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Speaker 2: several years before, but the struggles of the city has

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Speaker 2: been going through were certainly epitomized in that story.

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Speaker 1: What is the city of Memphis like now?

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Speaker 2: And what needs to happen in order for Memphis to

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Speaker 2: get back to being a place that frankly is safe

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Speaker 2: and that allows as many kids as possible to have

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Speaker 2: productive futures.

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Speaker 5: Memphis is a cool place. First of all. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to rail on Memphis. I mean lots of culture,

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Speaker 5: lots of history, music, barbecue, FedEx World headquarters, is there,

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Speaker 5: international paper, AutoZone. Memphis has a lot going forward, but

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Speaker 5: you're absolutely right, it has a lot going against it.

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00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: And candidly, guys, I would love to be able to

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Speaker 5: join and you all for two hours and talk every

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Speaker 5: political bit you guys can come up with, and I

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Speaker 5: do listen to you, and I you know, I love it.

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Speaker 5: But what I'm about to say is really not very sexy.

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00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 5: But it's just true. Until we start educating our children,

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Speaker 5: we are going to continue to have problems in our cities.

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Speaker 5: And education is really not a sexy buzzword. It's not

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Speaker 5: something that ever ticks in the top ten of politicians

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Speaker 5: worlds when they're out campaigning. But it's just true. And

929
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Speaker 5: the other truth to that is we all have a

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Speaker 5: problem with it. School Boards are typically elected, and so

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Speaker 5: we have a problem with our school boards. We have

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Speaker 5: a problem with our teachers and school unions. We have

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Speaker 5: a problem with our parents, We have a problem with

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Speaker 5: our administrators. We have a problem. And we sit there

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Speaker 5: and we see our city's tax bases dwindle because we

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Speaker 5: continue to graduate productive citizens that are adding to that

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Speaker 5: tax space, and we see crime being committed by younger

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Speaker 5: and younger and younger people that should be in high

939
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Speaker 5: school or haven't been in high school, aren't learning anything.

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Speaker 5: And we sit around and talk about what are we

941
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Speaker 5: going to do? And meanwhile, we all are complicit in

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Speaker 5: a really poorly educated public. And until we get serious

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Speaker 5: about taking care of our kids. We're going to continue

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Speaker 5: to perpetuate generational poverty and crime, and I think Memphis

945
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Speaker 5: is suffering from that. But I also think so do

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Speaker 5: many muchropolitan areas around our country, and it gets worse

947
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Speaker 5: and worse until we get serious about it. I fear

948
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Speaker 5: we're going to continue to suffer the consequences of that

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Speaker 5: inaction on our part.

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Speaker 1: Coach Bill, thanks so much for being here. The podcast

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