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Speaker 2: My best friend moved in with me but turned out

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Speaker 2: to be the worst roommate.

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Speaker 1: Out out, You're cast out, You're cast out.

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Speaker 2: Recently, my fiance twenty nine male and I twenty eight female,

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Speaker 2: have been living with our roommates Nicki twenty nine female

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Speaker 2: and her husband Josh, twenty eight male, since August of

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Speaker 2: this year. I have known Nicki since middle school and

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Speaker 2: Josh since high school back in mine and fiance's hometown,

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Speaker 2: Hell's Pit Stop HP. I feel like we were fooled

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Speaker 2: into the situation that we put too much trust in

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Speaker 2: towards Nicki and Josh. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 2: subparate it. So for brief context, my fiance again twenty

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Speaker 2: nine male, and I twenty eight female, moved away from

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Speaker 2: our share hometown of HP in twenty eight eighteen, and

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Speaker 2: since then that town has been declining steadily. My fiance

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Speaker 2: and I have accomplished so much, are finally done with

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Speaker 2: college academics, have finally gotten into full time careers, and

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Speaker 2: here in our current city and my birthplace Pine. As

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Speaker 2: ready as we are, we have been diligently planning our

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Speaker 2: finances and budget to make the next chapter come to fruition.

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Speaker 2: I work a full time job that utilizes my veterinary

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Speaker 2: medical knowledge, and I run a side business that I

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Speaker 2: network with my closest Pine friends. Been managing it since

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Speaker 2: May twenty twenty three. My fiance works with law enforcement

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Speaker 2: delivery driver. We have very recently started to take in

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Speaker 2: more overtime and side business reservations due to our recent

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Speaker 2: and ongoing roommate drama. Nicki and Josh were my closest

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Speaker 2: friends growing up in HP. Nicki and I have known

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Speaker 2: each other since middle school and Josh since senior year

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Speaker 2: in high school. Nicky and I share similar backgrounds of

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Speaker 2: family dynamics, and Josh came from a very toxic household

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Speaker 2: bathers a thug mother, dealt with substance abuse, and is

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Speaker 2: now deceased three years ago. They met and started dating

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Speaker 2: around the same time. My fiance and I started dating

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, married in twenty twenty one, and since

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Speaker 2: not left HP until this year in August. I got

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Speaker 2: engaged to my fiance in twenty twenty two, and we

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Speaker 2: were hoping to be married by next November now that

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Speaker 2: we're done with school and have careers lined up. However,

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Speaker 2: require us to allocate our finances differently.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, that's stuver good.

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Speaker 2: Just start. Nicky and Josh were experiencing a horrible landlord,

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Speaker 2: had terrible roommates, We're having low job prospects and growth,

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Speaker 2: and were overall not very happy with quality of living

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Speaker 2: in HP for a good while before summer started. After

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Speaker 2: they visited for my graduation this past May, Nicki and

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Speaker 2: Josh were really impressed by Pine. Nicki and I were

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Speaker 2: to start anew and give her and Josh a fresh start.

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Speaker 2: Within June, we were all passing back and forth the

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Speaker 2: idea of helping Nicki and Josh join us in Pine

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Speaker 2: and we would be in a win win situation as

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Speaker 2: respective goals in the next year or so. We were

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Speaker 2: all so invested in the idea that my fiance and

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Speaker 2: I made sure they simply understood that they are one

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Speaker 2: going to have to adjust to different seasonal climates and

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Speaker 3: Two average California. Why isn't cold and wet on the ground?

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Speaker 1: He know?

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Speaker 2: Doo gold Number two, be on top of handling their

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Speaker 2: To please not adopt any more pets. They have geriatric.

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Speaker 1: Rats, geriatric rats really old rats.

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Speaker 3: We have a geriatric host that do that, right, I

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Speaker 3: mean technically yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you're making a joke, you did nail it. Good job.

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Speaker 2: And we cannot add more due to the cost of

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Speaker 2: I mean it. My fiance and I made arrangements to

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Speaker 2: transfer our lease at our complex. I help Nikkey by

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Speaker 2: Nicky and Josh to start applying asap. Nicky and Josh

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Speaker 2: were to focus on ending their lease, job situations, and

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Speaker 3: That's what is this too much?

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Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Details, A lot of information, Yeah, a lot of information.

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Speaker 2: It seems like what's just to condense it. It seems

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Speaker 2: like Ope and their partner have these two friends who

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Speaker 2: they grew up within their hometown, and their hometown kind

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Speaker 2: Op and her partner moved to Pine, which is a

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Speaker 2: lot better. And we're talking to their friends, Nicky and

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Speaker 2: I believe Josh. Yes, Nicky and Josh and Nicky and

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Speaker 2: Josh were like, wow, Pine sounds great, and they talk

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Speaker 2: a lot about it, and eventually they decide Nicky and

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Speaker 2: Josh are going to move in. But they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: there are some ground rolls. Just gotta be really careful

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff, a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Rules and things that need to be figured out before

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Speaker 2: Nicki and Josh can move in. And that's where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Got an ICU. Also, if there's anything that's like not pertinent,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of words in this story, a

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Speaker 1: lot of words. Would you do best, guest?

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Speaker 2: And fast forward August, we transferred our lease from a

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Speaker 2: and most affordable in a university town. Nicky and Josh

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Speaker 1: I have no money, but I want to live in luxury.

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Speaker 2: With It took some encouragement and reminders that luxury is

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Speaker 2: that's what they want. It seems like Op and her

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Speaker 2: We would help them learn how to budget and adjust

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Speaker 2: NICKI was all on board with whatever it took and

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Speaker 2: was very much looking forward to it. But it should

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Speaker 2: have been a warning sign with Josh in how reluctant

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of August, Nicky came up with the

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Speaker 1: Another secret rats rat That's that's here some sgr.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Nicky came up with the rats, the Secret

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Speaker 2: Rats and the dogs first first. After resigning from her

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Speaker 2: I cannot begin to express how enjoyable, peaceful, and fun

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Speaker 2: it was to have only Nicki that whole month. She

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Speaker 2: She was even considering returning to healthcare services or seek

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Speaker 2: experiences from HP. She joined us in a few local

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Speaker 1: Networking doing great.

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Speaker 2: Nicki's killing it with those rats. Nicki, in simplest of

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Speaker 2: ways of saying it, was hopeful, happy and striving to

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Speaker 2: learning to be comfortable with her own company and would

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Speaker 2: talk with Josh at the end of every day as

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Speaker 2: it was their first time ever having to be apart

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Speaker 3: Quick sidebar, but this is like probably the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 2: Why yah, secret, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: That's fire. Yeah, that's fire.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of the Great Mouse detective.

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Speaker 1: So I'm talking about Oh you are hmm, No, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of the Orange Stillson. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also was thinking about that for a moment.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but there also is the Great Mouse.

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Speaker 3: Dude, this is a movie. I don't know about a man,

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Speaker 3: but we should make a movie yet.

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Speaker 2: Nicky was tapping into her arts and crabs. I encouraged

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Speaker 2: I was so happy to see her making healthier choices

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Speaker 2: a serious health scare before coming up to join us

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Speaker 2: that leaves me still worried for her about having a

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Speaker 1: Oh no, then, like.

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Speaker 2: Most things that almost seem too good to be true.

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Speaker 2: Josh arrives a week later into September, and things immediately

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: In all my years of having known my two friends,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I am now living with a version

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Speaker 2: of Nikki I cannot fully trust, and a total agg

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Speaker 2: hohole of shadow version of Josh who Nicki is now

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Speaker 2: completely opposite of how she was in August, reverting back

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Speaker 2: what is principally right and wrong of Josh's actions and

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Speaker 2: behavior here. As for Josh, I know he still mourns

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Speaker 2: in his own way the tragic loss of his mom.

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Speaker 2: I deeply believe he needs to see a therapist to

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Speaker 2: to these I get that.

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Speaker 1: But why have a therapist when you have Jerry Atric rats?

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Speaker 2: Also, you should either have us in your life or

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Speaker 2: secret Jerryatric Yeah, forgot the secret part. Sansy arrived at Pine,

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Speaker 2: he's been behaving as if he didn't want to join

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Speaker 2: or barely acknowledging us when Nicky is present, and definitely

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Speaker 2: My cat's name is Karen says, why take these people

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Speaker 1: Why, Like I think there's you know, it's great to

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Speaker 2: Okaya, Hey, I know you didn't eat earlier, Josh, So

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Speaker 2: He barely acknowledged her and didn't answer. So I went

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Speaker 2: Nicki quickly said for him, so did our Coca Cola

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Speaker 1: Feels like it very unhealthy. Dare I say, more unhealthy

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Speaker 2: The evening continued on for two hours, and not once

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Speaker 2: Nikki only came up to me once to ask if

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Speaker 2: Nicki insisted we all stay, that she was having a

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Speaker 1: You're so right, You're yeah right.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't taste good, such like like eight year old energy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Why are they Josh sucks.

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Speaker 2: Josh freaking sucks.

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Speaker 1: Take them out, Oh, Peter.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean this isn't your child. I mean

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Speaker 1: Guys, this is your house. You invited them in, Sophia.

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Speaker 1: Would you would you ever let a Josh stop you

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Speaker 2: Exactly. We would try to greet Nicki and and or

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Speaker 2: Simple rules, you would think, so simple rules hold them.

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Speaker 2: We gave permission for them to let Gremlin out of

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Speaker 2: In October and shortly before Halloween, Nikki and Josh returned

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Speaker 2: liquid cold medicine in a ziplock bag for three days.

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Speaker 2: Josh had left that bag out on the kitchen bar top.

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Speaker 2: away overnight for a few days and we never went

439
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: into the kitchen in avoidance of Josh. I meal prep

440
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: every week and we keep meals in our workplace fridges

441
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: and at my overnight gigs, hence no need for us

442
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: to enter the kitchen.

443
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: Ooh, does Josh like take like food? Why did they

444
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: do that?

445
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: I think maybe to avoid him?

446
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they just literally don't want to see

447
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Josh nicky.

448
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Like it almost sounded like I stopped cooking because it's

449
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: like if almost fears that there's this expectation if op

450
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: he's cooking in the kitchen, then he's gonna want to

451
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: get some food or something, which she feels compelled.

452
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: Which is weird though, because it seems like Josh isn't

453
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: even eating it. Like Opie said, he's not even eating

454
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: the food.

455
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: So dude, what's going on going on?

456
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: Unbeknownst to my fiance and I until the morning of

457
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: the fourth day, our cat came into contact with the

458
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 2: cold medicine while unsupervised during play with the dogs, But

459
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: the kitty doesn't have a cold, which it goes against

460
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: like three of the rules they had, one not supervising

461
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: the dog and the cat, two letting the cat onto

462
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: the counters, and three letting the cat get into things

463
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: that it's not supposed to. That night before, Nikki messaged

464
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: me to tell me Gremlin was acting grumpy, slushberry upset,

465
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: and I'd given her a hard warning Nip to leave

466
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: her alone, and not knowing and thinking Gremlin was being

467
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: off due to hairballs of her winter coke growing in,

468
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: I said for Nicki and Josh to leave her alone

469
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: and put her back in our room. That following morning,

470
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: my fiance went to change clothes for work and found

471
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Gremlin surrounded by vomit, acting needy and vocalizing and lying down.

472
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Oh not good.

473
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: He called me while I was at work in a panic,

474
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: sending me a video of how she was behaving. On

475
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: his way out, my fiancee told me he had bumped

476
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: into Nikki and explained the situation to her, but she

477
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: was more concerned about one of her dogs. Having a

478
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: reverse sneeze.

479
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: What does it even mean? It's so dogs will do

480
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: this thing. It's like it's like it's a reverse Kniez.

481
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Basically, Then about why our cat was so sickly that

482
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: he went into work as he couldn't call out. But

483
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: my work let me leave early so that I could

484
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: promptly get her in to see the vet as soon

485
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: as I could. Knowing this was urgent. Gremlin was stable

486
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: enough for me to come home and pick her up.

487
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: I found her in our room with more vomited bile,

488
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 2: signs that she had not eaten from her auto feeder

489
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: in the last twelve to eighteen hours, and her lying

490
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: lif nateral and vocalizing to me her discomfort. Gums were

491
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: pale and tacky, her heart beating so fast from stress. Oh,

492
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: she wouldn't even accept her favorite snack for me to

493
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: gauge her interest in food. Once at the vet, we

494
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: went back and forth over what it could be, pancreatitis, colitis, gastritis, constipation,

495
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: or even unknown undiagnosed IBD.

496
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Or rental disease. Don't like.

497
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah those all sound terrible. Yeah. Once Gremlin could be

498
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: sedated for her fear, aggression and pain, I ordered baseline

499
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: bloodwork and X rays to be done. While we waited,

500
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: her VET and I further discussed what she may have

501
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: gotten into. I admitted to the vet that Kremlin is curious,

502
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: loves to explore and check out things by touch, taste,

503
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: and scent, so she could have gotten into something left

504
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: out or within her reach, not within our bedroom. Upon

505
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: the vet's recommendation, searched the apartment for what could be

506
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: the likely cause. With the baseline established, it was seen

507
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: that Gremlin had an abnormally enlarged spleen, a drop potassium

508
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: level shot to hell, a peculiar fusion around her heart,

509
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: and was very dehydrated.

510
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: Wow, a lot going on with this cat, so many details.

511
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: We have geriatric rats and a very sickly cat. Very

512
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: sickly cat who kimberly finds his dark gums lack of oxygen.

513
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the gums tell all.

514
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. As her symptoms were so on

515
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: set under twenty four hours, it was unsure what to

516
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: do and what to risk. I had the option of

517
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: keeping her hospitalized there, but she wouldn't have a tech

518
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 2: with her and the money for it was not worth it.

519
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: One point five K plus per twenty four hours.

520
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: Yep, over fifteen yep. Dang, that's about right.

521
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: Because of that, or transferring her to another vet clinic

522
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: that offers staffed overnight hospice three K plus a day.

523
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was all becoming costs. I knew

524
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: we couldn't afford on top of our additional debt. After

525
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: weighing the facts known, then with my cat's results, what

526
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: I knew and what could be done and the risk,

527
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: I got my cat stabilized with supportive care and took

528
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: her back home. I had my fiance take over my

529
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: gigs for me so that I could be with her

530
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: overnight and monitor. Once home, I got her comfortable in

531
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: her bed and put cat TV on YouTube.

532
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: That's nice, Oh that's cute.

533
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: That same afternoon, I searched the apartment high and low

534
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: for what she could have gone into. I had found

535
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: at first chlorox wipes and a disinfectant spray left on

536
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: the ground by the dog's crate situated by the front door. Well,

537
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign.

538
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Mmm, I don't like the sound of that.

539
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: That's a bad sign. When looking around higher up, I

540
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: found the zip lock bag on the counter, and boy

541
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: did I see the glaring true problem of why my

542
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: cat was being so sickly inside that bag was leaking

543
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: cold medicine. Bad bade bye bye bye bad. That same

544
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: bag I found to have evidence of my cat having

545
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: bit the edges out of curiosity. Wouldn't have just put

546
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: away your medicine.

547
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: We just close a bag and place said bag you know,

548
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: you know what, don't even close it, just just place it.

549
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 2: Out of reach, place it anywhere else. That's just crazy.

550
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: That's crazy to me.

551
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Bro's about to run up ten thousand plus dollars with

552
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: medical bills. Yeah for this cat.

553
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, I saw red and felt so much rage

554
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: having found this out, feeling sick that this was within

555
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: a reach. I had no idea if Nicky and Josh

556
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: were home. It is difficult nowadays to tell, as they

557
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: always leave their dogs out unsupervised and their door shut.

558
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Went away from work or home, which probably is not

559
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: great because these uh dogs are pea and everywhere.

560
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: True, they're like pee everywhere else except for our room.

561
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, we close our door and then we

562
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: opened your door and let them pee there. I angry

563
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: cried on the kitchen floor for a good while before

564
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: I could text my fiance what I found. It took

565
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: every ounce of rationality and self control to not break

566
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: down their bedroom door and charge in screaming. But I

567
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: knew they wouldn't or take accountability if I did a

568
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: rup like that on them. I knew how Nicki would react,

569
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: and how John would and how Josh would shut it down.

570
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, well don't pen this on me, John shutting

571
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: it down. I'm in a sent and have no geriatric.

572
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: Rats, not a single geriatric rat, not a single one insight.

573
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: I collected myself, calm down and set a message to

574
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: Nicki and Josh in our roommate chat that I needed

575
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: to talk to them about my cat and what was

576
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: going on. Put your foot down, Ope, put it down,

577
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: Put it down. Twenty minutes later, Josh returns home from

578
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: his work, ignoring and avoiding eye contact with me while

579
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: I stand in the kitchen watching him walking straight to

580
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: their bedroom and shutting the door. Then they both emerge,

581
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: awkward and quiet. It reminded me of how my siblings

582
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: were nervous before scolding from our parents. I explained everything

583
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: to Nicky and Josh of what Kremlin was going through

584
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: and what I had just deduced it to what I

585
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: hope to be a very mild toxicity poisoning of a

586
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: set of a meano fin a seed of metaphone, a

587
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: ceeda metaphin.

588
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: What we're doing aceta menaphon, a seed of medaphone.

589
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: That's a fun word that you came into contact with

590
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: by biting the ziploc bag they slash Josh had left

591
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: out containing leaked cold medicine that bursted from altitude change.

592
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: Also Kimberly found. Okay, maybe this isn't accurate, but Kimberly

593
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: find said, who the f keeps liquid cold medicine in

594
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: a bag?

595
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: But it was well, first it seems like it had broken.

596
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and he maybe had the plastic bag around

597
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: it in case it did. Yeah, Okay, that's yeah, more understandable.

598
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: But it seems like we have just every one of

599
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: the rules that Op had set forth for Nicky and

600
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: Josh just completely ignored.

601
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: Because you know what, maybe uh, you know, we've all

602
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: been there unpacking. You leave things out maybe if you

603
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: get to put in the way. But have they been observant?

604
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Had they just watched the cats?

605
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They left the cat they like,

606
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Op said, Oh, you can either leave it in my room,

607
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: or let the cat out if.

608
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: You're you know, observing mentioned it. Yeah, just just completely

609
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: come on.

610
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: The entire time I was speaking to them, only Nicki

611
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: maintained eye contact and concerned interest, while Josh stayed just

612
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: out of my line of sight towards their bedroom. He

613
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: sounds like a child. So so Nicky is here and

614
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, no, of course, I'm so sorry. And

615
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: then Josh is like in the background, he's like, yah, whatever,

616
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure. He's like holding a geriatric round. He's like,

617
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: my rats would never drink cold medicine.

618
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Me and Gerald the secret geriatric rat are freaking over this.

619
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: Or Geronimo Geronimo Stilton.

620
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Yep.

621
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Only when I showed Nicki the bag did she turn

622
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: to him and tell him to take his things and

623
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: put it away. After a brief snort to show he

624
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: didn't like that, Josh grabbed the bag and immediately started

625
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: inspecting it. This whole interaction in summary when as follows Jay,

626
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: she must have bitten the bottleneck and lid removes the

627
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: two bottles to it. Mores closely me. Her mouth isn't

628
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: that big. She didn't chew on the bottle, and that's

629
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: not her habit with anything in a plastic bag with

630
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: cardboard boxes and bags. She nibbles on the edges to

631
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: enjoy how it crunches or feels, even rubbing her face

632
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: on them to scent mark. Jay, I doubt it, h Nikki, Honey,

633
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: the bottle isn't chewed on. There's literally stuff all over

634
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: them from one leaking. There's liquid in.

635
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: The bag, Dude. A cat opening a medicine bottle is

636
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: absolutely ludicrous.

637
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: It's childlocked. I can hardly open a medicine bottle. Yes,

638
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: it's really difficult, dude. H Jay shrugs his shoulders and

639
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: puts the bottles in the sink, taking the one leaking open,

640
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: which hisses from air pressure. Me hear that that is

641
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: air pressure releasing. It has been slowly pushing the medicine

642
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: out since you guys came back a few days ago.

643
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Jay.

644
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: Mmm, yeah, I guess, puts bottle back into the sink

645
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: and raises the zip lock bag up to the light.

646
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: What olds me point along the bag's edge to obvious

647
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: holes in the plastic holes. Jay then takes the ziploc

648
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: bag to fill in the kitchen sink with water.

649
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Here we go.

650
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: Bag immediately fills and leaks from various holes around the edge. NICKI,

651
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Oh crap, Jay.

652
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: Well there's holes holes.

653
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: There's holes in your brain, dude, so there's holes in

654
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: your brain. This is ridiculous. Why are they still living

655
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: with you? Why are they still here? I'm pissed off,

656
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: right me?

657
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: I told you.

658
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: Gremlin came onto the counter I'm supervised at some point

659
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: yesterday and bit the bag. She got some residue in

660
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: her mouth, and now she's sick. This conversation quickly ended

661
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: with him not saying anything or even an apology. He

662
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: went into the room and shut the door while Nicki

663
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: and I made sure nothing else was within reach for

664
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: the dogs to get into. That first night, I stayed

665
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: up with Gremlin to make sure you pulled through. My

666
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: timetabled exactly when to medicate her. I had to take

667
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: her to another event with Eercare the second day after

668
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: her first visit, where she was further diagnosed with the

669
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: stressed induced UTI and put on more medication for two weeks.

670
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: She recovered slowly, and my fiance and I stayed secluded

671
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: in our room when we could be home and shifts

672
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: to be with her. Our cat was on a soft

673
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: food diet for a month as she had a sophagitis

674
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: from the bile eroding and irritating the muscular layers of

675
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: her throat. Man, oh man, that cat has a lot

676
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: going on with it.

677
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: This has got a lot going on.

678
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: Just a psa about you know, not letting your cats

679
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: have access to coal medicine.

680
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen a lot of medical information about cats,

681
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: but this is I'm not a loss here, Yeah, not

682
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna lie.

683
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of medical stuff going on with

684
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: this cat. You could fill your own Reddit post with

685
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: stuff true. Since the incident, Josh has avoided us and

686
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: ignored us as usual. Conversations with NICKI were strained. Even

687
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: at a sit down talk two weeks after the incident

688
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: to discuss what transpired and to confront the massive elephant

689
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: in the room. Josh put on a show and still

690
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: did not apologize or show real repentance.

691
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: Dude to the streets, let.

692
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: Like kick him out, kick him out please.

693
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: The rats are yeah the street keep.

694
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep the secret geriatric rats, because I feel like

695
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: they'll bring you secrets or something. They'll fulfill their.

696
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Duty exactly, their geriastric wisdom.

697
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: In a more private conversation with Nikki, since she was

698
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: the only one I could be honest with and who

699
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: my fiance felt would be open to it. We asked

700
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: that she talked to Josh about reimbursing us for half

701
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: or all of the three K spent on Gremlin, which

702
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: I think is like, pretty fair because they are the

703
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: reason why the cat is so sickly.

704
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't even care, don't care. It's so

705
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: avoidable all that.

706
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: Dude, if you really wouldn't get back at them cats

707
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: and rats, not.

708
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: The geriatric rats. But they're a secret that the cats

709
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't know. They can't possibly know about these geriatric rats.

710
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: What if one of them is like, like the cat

711
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: is Tom and then it's Jerry the geriatric rat.

712
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: Whoa this is like when they're really old exactly. Nikki

713
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: agreed wholeheartedly that it was only right that they did,

714
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: but she would need to talk to Josh about it

715
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: first and let us know asap. Josh is gonna be like,

716
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: we don't know the money, this is ridiculous. Since then,

717
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: a whole month has passed with more occurrences. In the interim,

718
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: Nikki has not given us any updates nor spoken to us.

719
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: She and Josh continue to leave a mess in the kitchen.

720
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: They are dogs, unsupervised and loose in the apartment, and

721
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: have made little effort to work with us. In between

722
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: maintaining the apartment. Between shifts collecting ot and working our gigs,

723
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: my fiance and I clean the apartment at night in

724
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: the late how hours early morning. We were paranoid our

725
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: cat would relapse or have delayed health problems, but she

726
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: thankfully hasn't. That's good, thank God. How much did she

727
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: have of that cold medicine?

728
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, how much does it take to make

729
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: a cake get sick?

730
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Well, she was lapping at not much. I'm guessing like

731
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the bottle spill to where it was

732
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: like pooling right on the bag. So if she kind

733
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: of just like got all that out, then she's done.

734
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: That's it. Like maybe like like half of like a

735
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: serving of those cups or something. Yeah, yeah, something like

736
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: that makes sense.

737
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: Gremlin has since been kept within our room basically her

738
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: room now with everything she needs and when are both

739
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: of us being home with her every night? Nikki and

740
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: Josh no longer have permission to enter our room or

741
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: interact with her. Gremlin has not left our side and

742
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: avoids Josh when he happens to be out at the

743
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: same time as us. Gremlin only ever leaves our room

744
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: when we are home to watch her. With my feelings

745
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: of betrayed trust and disgust and my fiance's anger towards Josh,

746
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: we have agreed to do whatever it takes to afford

747
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: our first home by next summer. With our jobs and

748
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: side businesses. You know, He's like, we need to get

749
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: out of here.

750
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: M h wait they need to get out of there.

751
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: H well, so basically I think they went on They

752
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: went in on the like the cost of this place

753
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: that they're living at, yeah, with Josh and Nicki, and

754
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: so now they're like, okay, yeah, we can't live with

755
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: them anymore, so let's.

756
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Get our place.

757
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Let's use that to save up to freaking get our

758
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: own place and say see you later. Yeah.

759
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: Man, If Nicky and Josh do not repay us, we

760
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 2: are considering telling them taking them to a small claims court.

761
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: We made plans to potentially forego a wedding with family

762
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: and friends and a lope. Yeah, I mean like you're

763
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: about to spend some money and also you spend three K.

764
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: So if you don't get that three k back, you

765
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: better go out fighting.

766
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Come on. That's all I gotta say, come on.

767
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: As much as it was becoming a fun plan b

768
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: to that milestone due to family drama, it now has

769
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: a solemn tone of its reality, adding on to her

770
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: anticipation and joy and soon becoming a husband and wife.

771
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's great, but it sucks that you

772
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: know your your joy is being somewhat damp dampened.

773
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred. Also, not to add more details to

774
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: this story, but Prince ex did make a good comment.

775
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: A twenty five pound baby can only have five millileters.

776
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: That's like nothing. That's like just covering the bottom of

777
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: the plastic cups. So if a cat had that much

778
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: or dare I say more like two or three times

779
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: that I'm out.

780
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Not good, not good. I will be happy to marry

781
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: either way. But we wish this wasn't driven under these

782
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: collected circumstances. To add to my disgust and mistrusted, I

783
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: grieve for a friendship being lost with Nikki and what

784
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: no longer exists with Josh in any capacity. Our range

785
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: for Nikki and I to have a girl's night out

786
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: before Christmas, something I know is much needed but necessary. Also, Riley,

787
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 2: what I need is a cup of water?

788
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: Please? The queen requires what thought is dying? How much

789
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: for a store? We got what?

790
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: We're over halfway through?

791
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Wow? We gotta.

792
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe seventy?

793
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Nice? Yeah?

794
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: What are Let's take a pause because I read a

795
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: lot you d waiting for an update that never came.

796
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: It's just a.

797
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts?

798
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: You know what we do?

799
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

800
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: Gone? So my thoughts are that, yeah, they basically they

801
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: do need to get out as soon as possible. Yeah,

802
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: they should basically press charge, like I think they'll kind

803
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: of need to honestly, like, might as well just get

804
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: ahead of it at this point, because.

805
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Well they've been so awful this whole time.

806
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like you're not seeing the friendship. And

807
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: if you don't do that, then they can waffle around

808
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: and you know, kick the cane down there, or at

809
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: least Josh can. Maybe she goes like along with it too.

810
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: But I think you basically be like, yo, give us money,

811
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: will file the claim and then honestly potentially even see

812
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: if you can get him kicked out sooner.

813
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: I yeah, I would see, because like maybe there's something

814
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: with the lease that or you can break the lease

815
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: or get them to get out something. But I think

816
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: maybe the issue is that they can't afford the lease

817
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: all by themselves, so because that's why they want to

818
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: move into a like kind of a less expensive place.

819
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: What did you get?

820
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Hey, where's that from?

821
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: It looks it looks good? All about a Unicorse says

822
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: these people are the worst. Teach them a lesson, and

823
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: someone the characters that I am I can't read it

824
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: says they don't deserve to be pet parents if they're

825
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: disregarding Op's situation exactly.

826
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh heck no, exactly.

827
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: My cat's name is. Karen says they're going to have

828
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: to legally a victim, which will take months. So it

829
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: might like by the time that they go through that

830
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: whole process, which I'm assuming it would be expensive, the

831
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: least will probably be up. Anyway, Do we go for more? More?

832
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: What like?

833
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: We'll just eating and up? Which just round up to

834
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: ten grand.

835
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Let's just do a sweet five k I don't even

836
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: know if they have two freaking pennies to rub together.

837
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I doubt I doubt they do. It doesn't seem

838
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: like they're really works so much.

839
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: Here we go here we go three k but Josh

840
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: has to volunteer at pet shelters making them happy.

841
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to do community service yep, because you

842
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: almost aren'nlived or cat I like that, and also teaches

843
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: them how to take care of pets, which he clearly

844
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to do. But there's more to this story.

845
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: You got this, do what you do best. Really let

846
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: go in.

847
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,800
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848
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Speaker 2: We need to know what is going on. And if

851
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Nicky was ever able to talk to Josh, I feel

852
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: like she will defend Josh regardless, which is disheartening to

853
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: think about. Yet it seems like she's pretty, you know,

854
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: subdued around Josh. I don't know what else to say.

855
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: I just had to vent it here. I understand I

856
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: may be the a hole and some Reddit subs, but

857
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: I have read and witnessed enough animal negligence cases of

858
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: ignorant animal caretakers, borders, and pet sitters who are held

859
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: accountable very similar to the same cases in which I

860
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: know Nicki and Josh would be held at fault as

861
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: they had our cat under their care and supervision with

862
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: our permission, when we were away at work. If this

863
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: were one of their dogs that had occurred to under

864
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: our watch, Josh and Nicky would have been equally as

865
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: upset and distraught and rightfully wanting reimbursement and penance or

866
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: heaven forbid. If this was a child of ours under

867
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: the watch, this would be a horror, and I'm sure

868
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: I would be in jail. I'm a mix of emotions

869
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: typing this late at night while sick in bed with

870
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: a cold, beside my fiance who is asleep for a

871
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: couple hours before he starts deliveries.

872
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: We are so.

873
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Overwhelmed and overworked and overstressed, having been working NonStop since October.

874
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: I just hope we find our starter home soon to

875
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: begin our new chapter, and for our little gremlin so

876
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: that she can run around and look outside windows whenever

877
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: she'd like without us having to worry if someone left

878
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: out potentially harmful things that shouldn't be left out. If

879
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: you read this far, I appreciate your patience in doing so.

880
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: You're so welcome. I don't know what else to say

881
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: or how to explain everything wrong with the setup. I

882
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 2: am open to answering questions and hopefully giving any update

883
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: to those that are interested. Whooee, well there's an update.

884
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: But I have never read anything that long that wasn't

885
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: like multiple updates. That was one post?

886
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: Where was this post?

887
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: How did they get it through? Let this person write

888
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: this long booty post is right out?

889
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: Is this as bad as a bicycle guy? No?

890
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: I think it was relevant information. It was just a lot.

891
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: It was kind of bad, but no one's as bad

892
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: as one's as bad as that. Yeah.

893
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like I feel like I was

894
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: talking to a doctor or maybe a vat. Yeah, you know,

895
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: they were like, this is what's going wrong with your cat?

896
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: But first to understand what's going wrong with your cat,

897
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: we must talk about where this all started, Josh and Nicky.

898
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: But there is an update. I think you just need to, like,

899
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: sue Josh and Nicky.

900
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: Sue them, dude, you know how awkwuld be to sue them?

901
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: And they also live with you?

902
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's so true.

903
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: Carpool to the courthouse real quick?

904
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: Can you? I mean like I don't see why not,

905
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: but can you sue someone that you're actively living with?

906
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, it is for sure.

907
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there any sort of conflict of I guess

908
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: maybe that's.

909
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: For I'm in court with Christian right now. Well, yeah,

910
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: how's that going?

911
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Uh?

912
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: I need to give my lawyer figured out. I was

913
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: going to represent myself because you know, I'm a pretty

914
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: good lawyer. Uh, chatchbt and me I can figure out anything, anything, dude.

915
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: But uh, I stole an egg without its permission, and uh,

916
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: we're figuring that out.

917
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: WHOA, Yeah, there's no eggs anywhere.

918
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: No eggs, and he had so many. I was like,

919
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: can I have one? And then I took it and

920
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: didn't have his permission and he found out found out.

921
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: But there is an update. Get into it if you've

922
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: read my first post. That's the first long post that

923
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: is an understatement bff's turn Roommates now a big regrets

924
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: on the situation regarding my growing disaster of roommates drama.

925
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: This is my first update so far for it. Right

926
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: before Smiths and the Holidays, Nikki twenty eight female and

927
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: I twenty eight female finally had a much needed girls

928
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: only one on one time to talk and catch up.

929
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: I gave up trying to ease a conversation with her

930
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: at home when Josh would make it difficult for her

931
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: to be open with me whenever he was present. I

932
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: took initiative and I messaged her to set up a

933
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: time and place to talk that worked with our schedules.

934
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: We got together, excited for a Friday night girls dinner.

935
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: Once together, we addressed so much and openly talked about

936
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: the apartment dynamics and tension. It was such a great

937
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: four and a half hour long hangout. Wow, goodness, gracious,

938
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: not really chatted.

939
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 3: I could do four and a half hours with some people.

940
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean most of my friends hang out for like

941
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: four and a half hours. Do what There's tons of things.

942
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: What do you mean? How long do you hang out

943
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: with your friends?

944
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Like? An hour? No? Forty three minutes? Yeah, and no longer?

945
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh long, no shorter? That's all I get.

946
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long does it take to consume three steaks consecutively?

947
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: That is the time.

948
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: That is the only time I get to hang out

949
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: with my friends.

950
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm spending. I'm like, I'm spending like half.

951
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: A day with my friends. What is that in steak time?

952
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Please measure the grilling part or just the eating part.

953
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like six steaks from season to digestion.

954
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: Are they frozen before him.

955
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: No, no, that's important. They're already thought.

956
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: Whoa.

957
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: It was such a great four and a half hour

958
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: long hangout that it really showed how much I missed

959
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: being able to talk with Nikki like this since Josh

960
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: arrived in September. It was also a sad reminder of

961
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: how big of a problem it is with them and

962
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: why it shouldn't be this difficult to talk with someone

963
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: I was once so very open with.

964
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a lot more about Josh Henerson,

965
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I'm like, what's the tea on him?

966
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: It seems like he's a little bit I mean more

967
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: than a little bit, but like abused with Nikki really yeah,

968
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: like the fact that she doesn't feel open, you know,

969
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: to talk to Opie. It seems like she's always trying

970
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: to kind of cover for Josh's behavior and she's like, oh,

971
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: it's okay, like just get him this, and she's always

972
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, you know, like doing whatever Josh needs.

973
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Am at a minimum emotionally.

974
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have any

975
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: proof of like anything physical, but like emotionally it seems

976
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: I aired my worries and grievances to NICKI regarding how

977
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: difficult this it has been trying to get to know

978
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: this new version of Josh, who I now consider a

979
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: complete stranger with understandable problems to a point, and is

980
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: now not a person I see as a friend. At

981
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: this time, I shared honest opinions and thoughts with her

982
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: when she asked, and her vice versa with me. No

983
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: feelings were hurt, and obvious relief that we could be

984
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: open with each other was very evident. It was so

985
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: great to hear Nicki acknowledge that there are many things

986
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: wrong she needs to address, and there are things that

987
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Josh needs help with. NICKI one hundred percent agreed Josh

988
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: needs therapy and really needs to work on himself, as

989
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: she herself is feeling drained being the only person he

990
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: talks to about anything and everything. Nicky knows that she

991
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: cannot fully help without bias with him. She openly said

992
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: how tired she is of being the middleman when problems

993
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: arise for them. Yeah, she's having to do everything for Josh.

994
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I know we're about to go, but like, how

995
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: how many months of therapy can Josh go to before

996
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: we break up with them?

997
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on how effective therapy is.

998
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: Forty consecutive state consumptions of therapy.

999
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just forever.

1000
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: Like if he's going for three months and we're seeing

1001
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: like improvement, is that good? Or like if he's going

1002
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: for three months and it's still the same person.

1003
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you absolutely break up with him. M Yeah,

1004
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: because like if he's not even changing, Come on, Then

1005
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: we got to the serious topic. I really wanted an

1006
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: update and reason for are you both able to help

1007
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: reimburse us for some or all of our cats Kremlin

1008
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: emergency build? If so, what works for you? And why

1009
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: haven't you given us an update? And if not why?

1010
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: Nicki explained to me that she had talked to Josh

1011
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: a few days after our big sit down altogether back

1012
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: in November. She brought up to him what my fiance

1013
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: twenty nine mail and I asked. According to her, Josh

1014
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: initially said, no, she's not our cat and not our problem,

1015
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: but you caused the problem. Never forget the secret geriatriccrats.

1016
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: Those are his problem.

1017
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1018
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: After persuading him to understand more of why it was

1019
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: principally right to help pay us back some or all

1020
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: of it, Nicki reminded Josh how it was their fault

1021
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: our cat gremlin got into the cold medicine that they

1022
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: had left out for days while under their supervision and care.

1023
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: Only then did Josh finally agree that they would pay

1024
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: us back once they referring mostly to NICKI than about them.

1025
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: Both have better jobs to make those payments.

1026
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like that.

1027
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: Don't like that.

1028
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: There's literally no guarant you might be stuck in your

1029
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: freaking douchy job for the rest of your life.

1030
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: And I got no, no, no, you gotta keep giving

1031
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: me money. And you're also freaking living with us, and

1032
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: like we're giving you all of this help and stuff.

1033
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, us some money. But what I do?

1034
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: What like, Okay, I understand you can't you make payments?

1035
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: Just a little financial audit. Yeah, what are we paying where? Oh,

1036
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: we's cancel that and pay that to me. Just something

1037
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: like fifty bucks something, Just a little.

1038
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Bit, you know how we cut costs?

1039
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: Get rid of the rats oo.

1040
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: Or yeah. I was gonna say get rid of Josh,

1041
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: but that wouldn't help.

1042
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: It probably would help sell the rats Josh the geriatric

1043
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: secret rat market, and Josh too, because he's basically a

1044
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: secret geriatric rat himself.

1045
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: You know how much those secret geriatric rats would go, dude,

1046
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: with some good marketing behind it. Shoot million, Yeah, we've

1047
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: already got We already have a cover for them.

1048
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: We really do.

1049
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: Nikkish, she heard me she would be more than willing

1050
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: to start paying us back in monthly payments starting next

1051
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: month of the new year. I accepted her offer, wanting

1052
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: to do this, saying we would be fine with two

1053
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars per month for four months for

1054
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: the partial reimbursement, which is what my fiance and I

1055
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: were fine with, or have payments for the entirety done

1056
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: in six months of four hundred dollars per month. Nikki

1057
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: adamantly said she wants to pay for the whole thing,

1058
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: which is again about three K. Well, it's been a

1059
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: week into January of twenty twenty five and she is

1060
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: not communicated with me about her payment, nor tried sending

1061
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: one alongside their dues for rent. In fact, she asked

1062
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: for an extension on their half for rent and utilities. Yeah,

1063
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: now they can't even pay rents.

1064
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: That sounds about mother frickin'.

1065
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: Righte saying she needs to wait until Josh is paid

1066
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: for them to be able to make payment. Neither I

1067
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: or my fiance can understand where their money is going

1068
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: that they cannot even do a base rent of their

1069
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: half of one k flat. But I digress lye Between

1070
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: September and now, too much has happened with very little

1071
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: effort for them to fix it with us or make amends.

1072
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: Too many small instances of microaggressions and purposeful incompetence, mainly

1073
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: from Josh the NICKI has been making this living situation

1074
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: nearly impossible to finish our lease with them, just like

1075
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: say no, you can't have an extension, like you have

1076
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: to pay it or you have to leave. Just put

1077
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: your foot down, man, and.

1078
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: You probably find better roommates. Oh a victim, you get

1079
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: better roommates.

1080
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. With being nearly two point five to three k

1081
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: down and behind schedule of our plans and saving up

1082
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: for our first home or wedding because they got our

1083
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: cat nearly fatally ill, I am researching small claims to

1084
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: see if it was even worth pursuing. Most of our

1085
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: local Pine friends agree that we should not let this

1086
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 2: go lightly and attempt small claims. Some of our family

1087
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: members are saying we shouldn't keep pursuing as Josh and

1088
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: NICKI will still more than likely not pay, and that

1089
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: this has already broken our trust and my friendship with them. Yeah,

1090
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: to which I agree. My friendship with Nikki is fractured

1091
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: and keeps being so, and any chance of her new

1092
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: friendship with Josh is non existent. Now if we still

1093
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: somehow are able to reach our goal to have a

1094
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: down payment towards our first home ready with pre qualifications

1095
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: and loan needs met, I am heavily considering going no

1096
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: contact with Josh and low contact with Niki. I don't

1097
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: even want them to know where we may potentially live.

1098
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: What I thought, Wait, sorry, hide it hide, don't do

1099
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: not tell them where you live, don't do it.

1100
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: Facts.

1101
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 2: I think it's just saying like, whenever we are able

1102
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: to move out and just not going to talk to

1103
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: these people.

1104
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: I ever again got it, But they are already doing

1105
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: that kind of Yeah.

1106
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they stop to talk to them because

1107
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: they live with them.

1108
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: But sorry, Also, would be really hard to hide your

1109
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: address from them, because what do you have mail? Where

1110
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: you're going to tell them?

1111
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Afford it to eat the mail?

1112
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, with A being a strong but happily accepted option

1113
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: A celebration later with family and close friends is being

1114
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: thought of two. But I will not extend that invitation

1115
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: of celebration to Nikki and Josh. I feel like they

1116
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: had a window of opportunity to really make amends with

1117
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: us about this and work through this, and they did

1118
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: not take it, nor do so seriously. They literally have

1119
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: taken advantage of our friendship and have ruined a lot

1120
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: of opportunities for themselves coming here to join us in Pine.

1121
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: My fiance and I are still working ot on our

1122
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: side job slash gigs in our downtime from our full

1123
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: time jobs. I work one hundred hours a week twenty

1124
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: hours of otee at my job, then an additional twenty

1125
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: to forty hours with my side business.

1126
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: What like there are one hundred and sixty four hours

1127
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: in a week.

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00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that is like, oh, you are a barely

1129
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: sleeping right now? How are you?

1130
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: How are you traveling?

1131
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: Maybe she's counting? That is she maybe counting the time

1132
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: when she like cat sits and like probably no idea,

1133
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, dang girl.

1134
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: My fiance works his forty to forty five hours a

1135
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: week with this side business as an additional twenty to

1136
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: forty five hours. Yeah, that's a little bit, I mean,

1137
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: still crazy, but yours is insane.

1138
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 3: Let's look that does big.

1139
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: Feeling stressed is an understatement right now, as not only

1140
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: do we need to stay on top of what happens

1141
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: at work and our own payments and dues, but we

1142
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: are practically the maids or apartment cleaning fairies, as my

1143
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: fiance likes to half heartedly joke of a shared space,

1144
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: trying to keep this place livable and hygienically safe for

1145
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: all of us to be there. We both don't feel

1146
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: like going back home after working all day or night.

1147
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 2: We don't like leaving our cat shut in our room

1148
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: all the time even if we are home, and we

1149
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: have really given up on making efforts to befriend or

1150
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: be cordial to Josh. When nothing is reciprocated with this update,

1151
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: I constantly wonder, am I the A whole? Would I

1152
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: be the A hole? What else can I do? I

1153
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: hope to have a more positive update slash post later,

1154
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: maybe in the next couple of weeks or months, even

1155
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: if no one has been reading my situation. I feel

1156
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: some stress relief being able to share what's happening to us.

1157
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: So thank you to those that have read this and

1158
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: there is another update. Uh, hold on, it seems like

1159
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: it so it seems like, OHP and her partner have

1160
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: found a new place nice and they're slowly gathering their

1161
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: things to move out. Uh, and they're trying to figure

1162
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: out what they should do in terms of like should

1163
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: they break the lease, should they wait until the lease ends? Naturally,

1164
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: I think Ope wants to kind of do the like

1165
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: pay pay the bet bell themselves and take them to

1166
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: small claims court. It seems oh wow, yeah, fact, yeah,

1167
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: And that's kind of it.

1168
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: Just tying above on it like a whole. Does she

1169
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: make the right.

1170
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: Moves only for making us read this long story a

1171
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: whole for making us read it.

1172
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 3: Not an a hole in other aspects?

1173
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would say, not an a hole for

1174
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: like anything that you're going about in terms of trying

1175
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: to break the least or trying to get them out

1176
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: or making them pay for the cat. But I would

1177
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: say just in the future, when you have friends who

1178
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: are clearly not really don't have their life sorted out,

1179
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: maybe don't live.

1180
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: With them sometimes whenever, like we made this whole situation

1181
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: in the house workout, I'm kind of baffled that it

1182
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: worked out so well, so well, because we read stories

1183
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: like this of people getting together and it's just horrible. Yeah,

1184
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we're working, living and partying together, and

1185
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: it just seems like.

1186
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: One of my best friends.

1187
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm one of your best friends.

1188
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: And we just still and we live together and we

1189
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: work together.

1190
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sophia is definitely my best go to girlfriend.

1191
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: Right here, like like kind of like an added thing there.

1192
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, well, like honestly, just say I'm one

1193
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: of your best friends.

1194
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 3: Top three heck, yeah, I'm not gonna order them, but yeah,

1195
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: top three, well, now we'll top five for sure.

1196
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: There's so many construct we got.

1197
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: We got two of my best in the room.

1198
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: Top three.

1199
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1200
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even take to top five.

1201
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: I'm blessed to be here with. I'm just glad it

1202
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: worked out coming to California. Yeah. Oh anyways, but still,

1203
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: this is crazy that they just became nightmares.

1204
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah sucks.

1205
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: Three nightmares. I'd say, like, just don't do it. There's slots, yeah, anything,

1206
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: they're just.

1207
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, they just sit there and they're like they're teenagers.

1208
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 3: Teenage that's the word, that's the word.

1209
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story.

1210
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.

1212
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Hey's Johnny og host Here. We're gonna get back to

1213
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: the stories, but it's a quick three minute break of

1214
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: ass when we're sponsors. This is an episode from Deep

1215
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: within the Archives. Time for okop ree Lash. My husband

1216
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: has been getting happy ending my massages for years. I

1217
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: was gonna leave him. But here's the thing. The happy

1218
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: ending massages are just like fairy tales, right, you know,

1219
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: you you go down on the yellow brick road and

1220
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: magic happens at the end of the rainbow. That's every

1221
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: single happy ending. The magic is the yellow brick road

1222
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: turned into the white brick road. Wow, that is beautiful, Sam, Oh,

1223
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: guess what the secret ingredient is?

1224
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: Same?

1225
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's find out today. I found out that

1226
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: my thirty two female husband thirty three male has been

1227
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: getting happy ending massages for the last several years. He said,

1228
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: it's only happened a couple of times. But nonetheless, it's happened.

1229
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: It's it's only been a couple of times. Sam, Hey, ba,

1230
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: it's like you're overreacting. You know, five or six times

1231
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: a year you gave.

1232
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: Me a happy ending massage, I wouldn't need to go elsewhere.

1233
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: Or maybe if you got some happy ending massages, yeah,

1234
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: free for all. There we go, We're all about it.

1235
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: They can do couples, and they said they can do

1236
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: a couples happy ending massages.

1237
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: Hey has two hands, That's what I'm saying, an actual DJ.

1238
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I have had my suspicions for years, but I never

1239
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: brought it up as I was not able to confirm

1240
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: them years years.

1241
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 4: Could you imagine how many massages are you getting? I

1242
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 4: mean just like five massages a year for like five years.

1243
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: That's twenty five massages. I mean there's a lot of chances. Well,

1244
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: I guess that when you say like that, it doesn't

1245
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 4: seem like that much honestly.

1246
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: Really, but that's like twenty five Imagine cheating twenty five

1247
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: times in a five year relationship like that's easy. Those

1248
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: a rookie number. Sam's love life just always getting blasted

1249
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: on this podcast. I am very loyal, He's very very

1250
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: all jokes. This is all jokes. Today I checked his

1251
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 1: location to see if he was on his way home

1252
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: from work, and I noticed that he was that a

1253
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: massage parlor.

1254
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 4: So I thing it's like massage parlors is given to

1255
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 4: happy endings every which way.

1256
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: You know. It's really a good question because like how

1257
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: do they not get caught more? I guess I could

1258
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: just get it under the radar.

1259
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: There's actually a massage parlor called Happy Ending Massage, like

1260
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 4: right around the corner from my apartment.

1261
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Can I see your loyalty card? That's what I meant

1262
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: by loyalty, by the way, exactly loyalty. I would never

1263
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: go to another one, go to another Such a good

1264
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: guy Andrew Tape. Now, I just called him to say

1265
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: hey and check in. He told me that he's still

1266
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: at work and will see me soon. Excuse me, No,

1267
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: that's see me more like se men. Bro, Come on,

1268
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: oh that's a whole different happy ending. That's happy tins.

1269
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: I replied, really, and he said no, I met a

1270
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: massage parlor getting a shoulder massage.

1271
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 4: Bro. I think all like, like in this relationship, if

1272
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 4: she's been that like suspicious for like years, they should

1273
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 4: have had a conversation where it was just like, hey,

1274
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 4: if you you you're banned from all the side.

1275
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: Or at least like is this going on like years?

1276
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: Like not knowing that would torture me, my god. So

1277
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: I called him out on his light and I hung

1278
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: up on him. Bam boom. Fast forward to him coming

1279
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: home quickly to talk about this. I told him I've

1280
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: had a suspicion for him quickly. But I told him

1281
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: I've had a suspicion for years, but I could never

1282
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: prove it after a few good points. What good points? Wait?

1283
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 4: No, he had points apparently like like in terms of oh,

1284
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 4: it wasn't bab like, I didn't do it.

1285
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: I I a few good points. I guess, a few

1286
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: rationalizations or maybe that's what he calls his boners during

1287
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: his happy ending. I had a few good points in

1288
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: that last sees he's he's racking up his loyalty rewards.

1289
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: After all this, he sat me down and admitted he

1290
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: has done this a handful of times, a headful, and

1291
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: that's being generous. Buddy. In what world are you a handful? Seriously,

1292
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: I think you're you're an arm load, my guy, as

1293
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: much as an arms I'm saying you're a pinky load world.

1294
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: I was saying, the amount of happy endings he's gotten.

1295
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: I was saying in the the of the girth, the

1296
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: girth of his weien you know, is a pink not

1297
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: a handful, It's a pinky pinky, pinky ful thumbleful, a

1298
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: thimble thimbleful. So I dropped the bomb on him and

1299
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: told him I want to separate. Yep, good for you, queen. Yes,

1300
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, it only took you five only five years,

1301
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 1: only a few years. I said this because I've caught

1302
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: him in a few different cheating scenarios over our relationship. Girls,

1303
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: you deserve better mess seriously, like varying from some flirty

1304
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Speaker 1: text slash messages over social media, a physical encounter, and

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01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: a failed meetup. My god, Jean is either the worst

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: cheater ever or is putting up numbers, because it's like,

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: if those are the times that she's found out that

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: yeah below of cheating. Yeah, the cheating iceberg. Actually that's

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01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: a really good thing. Ladies and fellas, if you are

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01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: catching your partner cheating or of suspicious activity, just know

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: just the tip, just what's about the surface. There's a

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: lot below. Now. He has worked through these issues in

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01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: counseling over the last several years and has been in

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: a good place lately, So lying to me really caught

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Speaker 1: me off guard today.

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Speaker 4: How has he been in a good place. Man, still

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Speaker 4: getting these massages. How many massages does one man need?

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Speaker 1: You know, like you can only be so loose in limber, Yeah, yeah,

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: become putty.

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Speaker 4: At some point it's gonna become a blog to his bones,

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 4: just dissolving, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that one scene from Harry Potter where he's like

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: and then the bone. Now, he's been to a therapist

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: in the past who's told him he has an addiction

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: to doing it. Yeah, he does, yeah, but then there

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01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: was another therapist who said that he didn't and he

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry. Okay, just keep going on doing

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: this the happiness, a little massage here, and he didn't

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01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: hurt anyone. He told me today that he needs help

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: because he feels ashamed of doing these things. But it

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: feels like he doesn't know what else to do because

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01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: it's an escape for him. I feel real bad for

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: this guy. This man deserves the most sympathy points. Oh

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01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 1: my god, any man, I know truly, like I mean Sam,

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: he would not be able to escape without this, He

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01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: would be trapped. What else would he do?

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Speaker 4: You know, I have a sadd ending he would he

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: would he would build trains, he would have a hobby.

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Speaker 1: Disgusting, How could one ever imagine?

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 4: All right, here a question, question, question, Yes, would you

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: rather your partner have one like passionate love, affair full

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: like right full, terrible at where you can imagine, where

1343
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: you can imagine? Or twenty five happy ending massages?

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01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have

1345
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: to go with the one time because like the twenty

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: five is saying like something's wrong, like like if you

1347
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: get I guess one is like out of your system

1348
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: maybe and you're good, but like I don't know, twenty

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: five that's that's insane.

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01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 4: Okay, So I actually would go with the twenty five

1351
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: really just because I feel like it's less emotionally evolved.

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 4: It's like remember, you know how like the nineteen fifties,

1353
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 4: like the you would have these husbands or like my

1354
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: wife is hysterical, right that, Like the doctor would be like,

1355
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: all right, we have a secure for this, and it'll

1356
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 4: literally just get a vibrator and like jerk women off

1357
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 4: until the orgasm and they wouldn't be hysterical.

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: And thought they just gave him tranquilizers.

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01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 4: That too, but they also, like the doctor, like women

1360
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: would go in for their like monthly checkup, which is

1361
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 4: just like their monthly orgasm. And basically the doctors would

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 4: give them happy endings. They would be like like less hysterical.

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 4: Oh what, yeah, that's crazy the thing that happened all

1364
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: the time.

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 4: I would I would rather that kind of occurs that

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01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 4: it's just like a medical procedure, right right, Wow, damn.

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: I never knew that maybe maybe that could we could

1369
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: create a subscription of the modern day. You know what

1370
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean, happy endings doctor Yeah, doctor happy, and your

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: wife is having trouble, get it off, just call up

1372
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: seven doctor happy, call doctor happy, not us. Those are

1373
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: new names. Doctor Happy is the name of our subscription

1374
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: service that we're going to be launching. And it's a

1375
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: billion dollar business. I mean that Lookey would a billion

1376
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: dollars to say. We got a lot of satisfied customers.

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Speaker 1: Whether we stay together or not, I am concerned. I

1378
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: will still support him in any way I can to

1379
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: help him, especially because we have children together. Oh yeah, bro,

1380
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: we are going to support in any way by any

1381
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: means necessary.

1382
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I think like, if you really want to support

1383
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 4: him by any means necessary, open up your own massage

1384
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 4: parlor and start cranking out those massages.

1385
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Boom, got those happy endings. Let's let's turn these lemons

1386
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: into business lemonade, you know, and then he can get

1387
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of different clients, make a billion dollars, a

1388
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: bunch of husbands in a family. It's gonna be beautiful.

1389
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad guy at heart. He

1390
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: just has issues, very very uh open, very empathetic.

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he is to have an open marriage. Maybe

1392
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 4: that's that's maybe maybe, but like only open too happy endings.

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. Yeah. What I'm wondering is has

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: anybody dealt with this? And is there any and is

1395
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: there any good first steps in helping with a situation

1396
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: like this. We've done counseling, both individually and together, but

1397
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: I feel like he needs a retreat or meetings or

1398
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: a support system or something. How can I support him

1399
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: through this?

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: Getting happy ending massages in a relationship is not necessarily bad.

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 4: If that is something that you have talked about, yeah,

1402
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 4: if you want to, Yeah, yeah, what is bad here

1403
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 4: is the lack of trust and the fact that he's

1404
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 4: been lying for five years to your face and.

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: Doing having multiple other affairs. Ands.

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 4: But like again, it's not like it's not the act

1407
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 4: of like, yeah, like having somebody else, they're both down

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01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 4: for it. It's the it's the lying. And so I

1409
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 4: feel like like like he should have been showing a

1410
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: pattern of behater for like five years of like him

1411
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 4: just not being the most truthful person, yeah, and not changing.

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01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 1: But they have kids together. Yeah, but I mean, you

1413
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: know it sucks. But like, at the end of the day,

1414
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I think you're putting this bearing this

1415
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: weight on your shoulders, and I do not think you

1416
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: have to bear all of that weight. I would still

1417
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: get him help and support because he is the father

1418
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: of your children. You want there to be a good

1419
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: relationship there. But I think, like I would figure out,

1420
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: like how can you be removed in a way where

1421
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: it's like you have to worry about this less long term,

1422
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, find and find someone who

1423
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: doesn't do this to you, Like I think that this

1424
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: you don't deserve this. I'm also I'm wondering, like do

1425
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: are they having sex?

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: That's a good question because it's like is there enough

1427
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: intimacy in the related marriage? Yeah, because I like, all right,

1428
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 4: let's say you are saying like, oh, I want to

1429
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 4: stay together with this guy, which I advise, but like

1430
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 4: maybe the thing that like you have to take a

1431
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: hard look at is Okay, if I do want to

1432
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 4: stay in this, what does my intimacy look like? And

1433
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 4: maybe how can how can we come to a place

1434
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: where can be intimate together. Uh So he's not as

1435
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 4: inclined to cheat, but like that feels like it's like

1436
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 4: that feels like it's putting blame on her. Yeah, it's

1437
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 4: like i'd work on her. Yeah, it's just like I

1438
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 4: mean I think, like, really, she's like this guy is bad,

1439
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 4: you know, like I don't know if it's it's worth

1440
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: saving save.

1441
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Usually we kind of just like, oh we'll give

1442
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: a high level whatever, but this one, I'm like, bro,

1443
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: leave his ass, Like, yeah, this is not this is

1444
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: ultimately not your problem to bear. Help him where you can, Yeah,

1445
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: get him into find like a support group or something.

1446
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: And then that's and then that's that he's in it

1447
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 4: and he's doing and you want you want him to

1448
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: be a good father still.

1449
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: To the children.

1450
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1451
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so but that doesn't this shouldn't come at her

1452
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: expense ultimately.

1453
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1454
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: So, but I do understand, like when you have kids

1455
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: complicate thing.

1456
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1457
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: But but at the end of the day, like Sam

1458
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 1: just said, happy endings and marriages is okay? Yeah, frame editors,

1459
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: frame a picture of Sam with that quote. And you

1460
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: know what also is okay? Oh my god, what Sam

1461
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: r slash?

1462
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 5: Okay, hope you show on Bred if you want to

1463
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 5: submit a story to us and have us read it

1464
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 5: and give us, you know, give you our sage wisdom,

1465
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 5: we will and and can do that.

1466
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: Shower us with your stories, Shower us with your semen

1467
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: and your pee, give us a golden shower.

1468
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: Do you want to do please? Guys, I saw Babylon,

1469
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 4: you know Babylon. No saw Babylon. It's like with like Margot, Robbie, Tobe,

1470
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: Acquire Brad Pitt. I thought it was okay. Some people

1471
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 4: hated it. But the opening scene, like or one of

1472
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 4: the opening scenes is this like super obese dude getting

1473
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 4: pete on at a Hollywood party and he's.

1474
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: Like, little Biggie likes it. Little Piggie likes it. Now,

1475
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: that's that's cinema. We want to do that to us,

1476
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: you know the hotline. Please do it