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Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The that this could be the

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Speaker 1: Friday Nights preseason opener against the Arizona Cardinals coming up,

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since pay Corps Stadium. Other than

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Speaker 1: the Roman Colisseum, which has had one name since eighty a.

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Speaker 1: D Stadium name changes are not unusual. Consider the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins who play at hard Rock Stadium. It opened as

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Speaker 1: Joe Robbie Stadium before becoming Pro Player Park, then Pro

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Speaker 1: Shark Stadium, sun Life Stadium, and finally hard Rock Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The Bengal sixteen year agreement with Cincinnati based pay Corps

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Speaker 1: comes at a critical time for the franchise. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown told me before training camp when I asked

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Speaker 1: him about possibly changing the name of Paul Brown Stadium. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think my dad would have understood. I think he

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Speaker 1: would even have approved it. In his mind. What mattered

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Speaker 1: most was the team. This gives us a revenue stream

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Speaker 1: if we go forward with it, and we need that

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Speaker 1: for doing things such as the indoor facility we're building

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Speaker 1: to help us when we get to signing some of

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Speaker 1: our headline players. That's going to be a real challenge.

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Speaker 1: We have things to spend that money on. Believe me,

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Speaker 1: Paul Brown is not only the most innovative coach in

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Speaker 1: football history, he was probably the most innovative coach in

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Speaker 1: sports history. This partnership with pay Corps will help the

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Speaker 1: team he founded compete for Super Bowl titles. In the

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Speaker 1: modern NFL. Now, let's get to Friday's preseason opener against

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. It didn't start well for the Bengals, as

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Speaker 1: score on their opening drive. The Bengals answered with a

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Speaker 1: sixty yard run by Chris Evans on their first play

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Unfortunately, it didn't count due to a holding

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Speaker 1: his rotten luck after the game. The final stat sheet

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Speaker 1: is not going to show all the things you did tonight. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: He had a forty yard kick return that counted, But

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Speaker 1: was kind of a strange night for you, which you

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Speaker 1: made all these big plays and they didn't count. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just and being in a preseason this is

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss the sixty five yard run first offensive play

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Speaker 1: The coaches know that I could do that and know

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Speaker 1: looking to correct things that went wrong in the preseason game.

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Speaker 1: I guess the big thing for the team tonight would

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Speaker 1: Guys who were in don't typically get rested during the week,

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Speaker 1: Evan McPherson, coming off the greatest rookie season by a

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Speaker 1: I've been doing all week. It's remarkable show you amaze

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Speaker 1: us on a regular basis. Congratulations on two long wins tonight. Well,

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Speaker 1: He's got it right at the goal line. Touchdown Bengals

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Speaker 1: runners were schematic because they were so basic with what

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Speaker 1: they were running, or if it was a simon error

429
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Speaker 1: that were causing some free runners. But quarterbacks were either

430
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Speaker 1: getting hit or forced out of the pocket and they

431
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Speaker 1: were running around like wild men. So um yeah. Overall, uh,

432
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: this is not a a performance that you're proud of

433
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: as an offensive line as a group. There's no question

434
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: about that. You know you have miles to go before

435
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: you rust off after this one. Two undrafted wide receivers

436
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: have had good camps, Kwamie Lasseter and Kendrick Pryor. Advantage

437
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: game one of the preseason goes to Kendrick Pryor, who

438
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: is outstanding? He really was, And you know Plt was

439
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: perfect because Prior had that miraculous one handed catch to

440
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: keep him perfect and knowing completions, perfect quarterback rating. I mean,

441
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Speaker 1: it's a it's almost a you know, a fairytale dream

442
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Speaker 1: for for Plitt. Prior though, I to get a chance

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Speaker 1: to speak with him after the game, and he just

444
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Speaker 1: very confident. I said, what are your strengths? And he

445
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: rattled off about five things and you know, I just

446
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, he understands the situation, no matter what the

447
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: score is, no matter what is transpiring, do your job,

448
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: and the coaches want to see that, particularly when things

449
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: aren't going well. Guys that can focus and concentrate and

450
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: put adversity aside and do their job and try to,

451
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, rectify the problems and write the ship. Those

452
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: are the guys you want to go to war with.

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Speaker 1: And he understands that. So I think he's a pretty

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Speaker 1: mature young man. I think he understands there's an opportunity

455
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Speaker 1: here available to him, and he's he's not going to

456
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: let it go easily. He's gonna grab on and hold

457
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Speaker 1: on tight. What did you think of Jeff Gunter and

458
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Speaker 1: Zach Carter? I thought that, you know, Gunter did flash.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's definitely got get off boy. He's

460
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Speaker 1: got first step quickness. He's one of those guys that's

461
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Speaker 1: got a long, long body. But when he comes off

462
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Speaker 1: the ball, he comes off like an arrow out of

463
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Speaker 1: a bow. He doesn't stand up. He comes off with

464
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Speaker 1: some surge. And you know, every good pass rusher that

465
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Speaker 1: did I've played against or seen, they don't make moose

466
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Speaker 1: in standing in place. They make moose answing to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I think he has the innatability to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's I think he's got some potential,

469
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Speaker 1: and I think he get over zealous at times, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: getting up the football field maybe too far and creating

471
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Speaker 1: a natural lane between himself and the defensive tackle. The

472
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who had some good mobility took advantage of um,

473
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Speaker 1: you know one time on a twist he didn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: keep his contain Uh So, I mean there are things,

475
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Speaker 1: there's always things to work on, things to improve on.

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Speaker 1: But just in terms of traits raw ability he's got,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot to work with, I think. And

478
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Speaker 1: then uh you know, inside our our boy from Florida.

479
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Speaker 1: Now there's this guy. He's a three technique guy that

480
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Speaker 1: can can cause you some problems. He can he can

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Speaker 1: convert the line of scrimmage. He can be disruptive, very physical.

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Speaker 1: He has an ability to make himself small you know

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Speaker 1: when he when he needs to. He's he's got some

484
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Speaker 1: talent as well. Between the two of them, I think

485
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Speaker 1: they get too two young guys that are gonna, I'm

486
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: going to help this football team. There's no question. Aside

487
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Speaker 1: from the eleven penalties, what do you think bothered the

488
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: coaching staff the most? Tonight? Anything really obvious in your opinion,

489
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the slow start in general, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that. I think obviously the opponent

491
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: came out a little bit more enthused, a little bit

492
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Speaker 1: more ready to make a statement. Early in the football game.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals, you know, just took control of

494
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Speaker 1: the tempo from Jump Street. And I think that bothered

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff a little bit, because I think they've

496
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Speaker 1: been over backwards to try to keep them fresh for this.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not going to bust your butt, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: during the week, but we expect that to pay off

499
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Speaker 1: on on game day, even if it's pre season game day.

500
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Speaker 1: And there was no payoff at pay Course Stadium tonight

501
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Speaker 1: for the way that they you know, they worked them

502
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: during the week and in the fourst greg days. We'd

503
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Speaker 1: be going home after something like this and I wouldn't

504
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: be sleeping. I'd be thinking, oh my gosh, that first

505
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: practice is going to be so brutal. He is going

506
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Speaker 1: to kill us. I don't think that's what Zach's all about,

507
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: but I do think that I would. I would definitely

508
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: make a very stern statement that, hey, if you want

509
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Speaker 1: me to take care of you, you better take care

510
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: of me. This better be a two way street. You know,

511
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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to defend you guys for

512
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, lack of enthusiasm or effort or things of

513
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Speaker 1: that nature. Dax Hill had a couple of past deflections,

514
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: had a near interception in the end zone. Do you

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Speaker 1: think he showed them exactly what they're hoping he would? Shall?

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Speaker 1: I think so, you know, it'll be interesting to you know,

517
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Speaker 1: we don't really know until you study the tape if

518
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Speaker 1: there were things he could have also done that he didn't,

519
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Speaker 1: whether it was just a little bit out of position

520
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: or slow to react or whatever. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a quick study. He understands football. Um.

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00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: The installation process has not been a you know, a

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00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: difficult scenario or a difficult process for him. So and

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00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: his his his closing speed, his recoverability speed just shows

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Speaker 1: up all the time. Even if he is a little

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Speaker 1: bit out of position. It sometimes that may play to

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Speaker 1: his advantage in the NFL, because you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit out of a position, then you realize

529
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Speaker 1: that quarterback when he sees a you know, a gaping

530
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: scenario like that, he's and this guy can recover because

531
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Speaker 1: of that speed that he has. So there were a

532
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: couple of instances where speed that guys have did show

533
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: up and h and that's what you're looking for. How

534
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: would you describe Evan McPherson at this point? I mean,

535
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: it's mind boggling how well he kicks the football. I

536
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen a guy with as much

537
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: earned confidence as he has maybe Burrow. Other than that,

538
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I don't know who, you know, it's it's it really

539
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: is really phenomenal. I mean I think he I asked him,

540
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: I said, on a beautiful night like tonight, when you

541
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: hit that fifty six fifty eight yard what could you

542
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: hit from? Do you thank you because it was nice

543
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: out there? I don't know, I'm thinking sixty three, sixty five.

544
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's it really is. It really is amazing.

545
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I asked him about never overdoing the

546
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: swing like you know golf, you know, you hit your

547
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: purists shots when you're in total rhythm, and that's he

548
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: swings at the you know, fifty eight fifty six yards

549
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: like he does the thirty two yarders. You know, he

550
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: just he's never he's never had a whack in that

551
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: regard Man, He's got an explosive leg He's he's uber talented.

552
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, fourteen for fourteen in the playoffs and three

553
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: of them from beyond fifty, so I think he only

554
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: missed one from beyond fifty in the regular season. I mean,

555
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. The longer the distance, the more confidence

556
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: I have in the guy. It's crazy, it's nuts. Last thing,

557
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what Zach Taylor's plan is for playing

558
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: the starters. I don't know if they'll go in the

559
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: second preseason game or the third, or not at all.

560
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll only play in those practices against the Rams.

561
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Speaker 1: Do you think tonight's result could have any impact on

562
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: that leading to the second preseason game against the Giants.

563
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. That's a that's a great question.

564
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Only Zac, I guess, could could answer that question. But

565
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I think I think that that he's he's basically making

566
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: that decision based on the fact he doesn't want to

567
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: lose anybody, and in tonight's preseason games, some guys were lost,

568
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: So I think you get the validity validation of that

569
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: decision making process, and you know that would not be

570
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: shocked if the quote starters only get one series total

571
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: in the preseason, maybe just one if it's a three

572
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: and out. I don't know, maybe it won't be just one,

573
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be minimal, if at all.

574
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I really believe that. But I do think that those

575
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: those workouts against the Rams or when they're really going

576
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: to evaluate where they are, because that's good. That's a

577
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: good athletic football team on both sides of the football,

578
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: and the ones will be going against the ones and

579
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: it'll all be controlled and everything. But you can tell

580
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: if a boy, you know it, made a mistake here,

581
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: maybe we need to play some of these guys in

582
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: that third preseason game a little bit longer. They didn't

583
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Speaker 1: look very good against the Rams. At least you have

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00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: that as a barometer before that last preseason game. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's when they're going to make that decision

586
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: based on how all that unfolds against the Rams. I

587
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Speaker 1: think the Rams practices are going to be the tilting

588
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: point in that kind of thing. The end results wasn't

589
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: what Bengals fans were hoping for, but it was fun

590
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: to be back in the booth. It was fun. The

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00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: National Football League is it's one hell of a piece

592
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: of entertainment. There's no question about it. I mean it's

593
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous show, and it's all unscripted, so you

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00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: never know what you're going to see, and sometimes you

595
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: know it's like, no matter how many games you witness,

596
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: I never saw that before. Oh, I haven't seen that

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00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: in a long time. Those are the great things about

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Speaker 1: Fun Facts interview of the season, where you get to

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Speaker 1: know the person under the pads. Time for some fun

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Speaker 1: facts with a Boo Durami Sire, a rookie cornerback who's

607
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: joined the Bengals this training camp. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: there's a better story in this camp or in the

609
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: entire NFL than yours. A boot Tell folks what you

610
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: were doing last year when the Bengals are facing the

611
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Rams in the Super Bowl. I was working at Donato's

612
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: delivering pizzas with tears in my eyes, going from door

613
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: to door giving people their pizza and seeing the game

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: through their window basically and trying to listen to it

615
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: on the radio as much as possible. So with that

616
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: in mind, what does it mean to you to be

617
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Speaker 1: playing in an NFL preseason game on Friday night? Honestly,

618
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Speaker 1: it means everything to me. I've had this dream since

619
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Speaker 1: I was a kid kid, and you know, it seemed

620
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: like it was slipping away slowly and slowly with just

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Speaker 1: a slim chance. You know, after that Super Bowl, I

622
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: definitely thought my chances were absolutely done. And to think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the team that was playing in the Super

624
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Bowl is the same team that was going to bring

625
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: me along, I never would have thought that's how it

626
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: would have played out. But I'm super thankful. So this

627
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: preseason game means absolutely everything to me. We're chatting with

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Speaker 1: a Boo Durami Sire. You were born in Sierra Leone

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Speaker 1: but went to high school near Columbus, Ohio. Explain what

630
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: your mother did and moving you to the US and

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Speaker 1: why my mother, you know, we were refugees. We had

632
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Speaker 1: to find refuge here in the United States because there

633
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: was a war in my country and basically we had

634
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Speaker 1: to escape and comes to the United States, and from there,

635
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: my mom had to work two three jobs at a

636
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Speaker 1: time just to make a living for us. And you know,

637
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see her that much,

638
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, and it was very difficult for us.

639
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: But she made those sacrifices for me. So when I'm

640
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: in situations like this and I have to bust my

641
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: butt each and every day, I mean, it's easy compared

642
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: to what she had to go through. So she's my

643
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: motivation each and every day. And you have a brother

644
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: that you didn't see for nine years, correct, you know,

645
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: the way things didn't work out the way that she wanted.

646
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: She could only get one of us here, and sadly

647
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: she had to choose. But I was the youngest, so

648
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: she had to bring me along, and you know, me

649
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: and my brother didn't get those adolescent years together that

650
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: we could have been building a relationship. And it's kind

651
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: of upsetting. But you know, till this day, him and

652
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: I are still working on it. You know, I'm thankful

653
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: and grateful for my mom fighting so hard because I

654
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: very much do love my brother and he's a very

655
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: big influence on me. We're doing fun facts with Aboo

656
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Durrami soire. So. After a great high school football career

657
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: near Columbus, you went to Colgate University in New York State.

658
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: You had a great career there, three times first team

659
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: All League. What was the best part of your college experience? Honestly,

660
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: just you know, those championships that we won together. I mean,

661
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: those individual awards, they were they were cool and all,

662
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: but you know, getting a ring and being able to

663
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: shake hands with my teammates and hear that clink sound

664
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: from our rings touching one another. I think you know

665
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: that that was the best part of the experience in

666
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: just celebrating that together as one was better than any

667
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: of the individual awards that I received. So when people

668
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: look at number forty three on the roster, they will

669
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: see you listed at five nine, one eighty five. You

670
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: are almost the exact same size as Mike Kilton, who's

671
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: obviously become a great NFL player. But Mike wasn't drafted

672
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: and you weren't drafted. Not uncommon for a guy your size,

673
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: but it was extra tough for you because the year

674
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: you came out, was at the height of the pandemic

675
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: and it was hard to get a gig as an

676
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Yeah, that that was you know, Honestly,

677
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: I think that was the most humbling experience for me.

678
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: I think if I would have come out at the

679
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: time I did, things would have been completely different with me.

680
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think God, you know, did this for

681
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: a reason. And those two these two years I spent

682
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: was very humbling and just you know, getting closer to

683
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: God and getting closer to myself and my family, just

684
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: going around what I truly want in life. So I

685
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: think this came at the perfect time. And seeing seeing

686
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: people like Mike Hilton really motivate me. And he's a

687
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: person that definitely you know, stands next to me and

688
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: takes me under his wing and make sure that you

689
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: know I'm doing the right things and always there to

690
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: answer questions. So you know, I feel like I got

691
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: here at the time that I was supposed to get here.

692
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: So the Cardinals game will be your NFL debut, but

693
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: not your pro football debut. You played in Germany last

694
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: year for the pots Damn Royals. Described the German Professional

695
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: Football League, it was all love you know, of course,

696
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: the competition level isn't the NFL, but there's no competition

697
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: like the NFL. But it was still competition. You know,

698
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I was going against all American wide receivers each and

699
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: every game. I was going against you know, guys that

700
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: were in the NFL. Guys I got an NFL tryout,

701
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: so you know, it wasn't just any walk in the

702
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: park for me. But the experience was absolutely amazing. The

703
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: fans were so lovely, the team, my coaches, you know,

704
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: they treated me like family. I almost didn't leave because

705
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: of how much I loved it, and I was actually

706
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: signed to go back there the day before I got

707
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity to come for a workout here. But Germany

708
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: was definitely you know, I plan on visiting once the

709
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: season's over. I plan on going back to seeing my

710
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: coaches in the offseason and just spending time with them

711
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: because I really built a family out there. I'm not

712
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: sure i'd ever heard of the German Football League. Did

713
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: you even know it existed before someone mentioned the opportunity

714
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: to possibly play there. I never never knew that there

715
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: was football outside of Canada and the United States. And

716
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: then I got a phone call from David's soul, and

717
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: I was hesitant on the experience just because I'm just like,

718
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, this is not my dream. You know, this

719
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: is not what I've wanted for myself, and I had

720
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: to move over four thousand whiles away from everything I

721
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: know and love. So I was very hesitant, But there's

722
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Speaker 1: a gut feeling that told me just take the leap

723
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: of faith, Just take the leap of faith, and I

724
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: just wanted my gut and honestly, it was the best

725
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: decision I've made. So you've had some other jobs in

726
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: addition to delivering donados during the Super Bowl last year.

727
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: What are some of the other things you had to

728
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: do while you were staying in shape and hoping to

729
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: get a football opportunity. I was personal training for a

730
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: former Ohio state strength conditioning coach one to Ohio. I

731
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: worked at the Amazon warehouse. I worked at BJ's restaurant.

732
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: I worked at best Buy. I did door dash, I

733
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: worked at Donado's. You know, I was. I was doing

734
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I actually lost my last job

735
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: at best Buy due to COVID in twenty twenty its

736
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty one because my family caught it.

737
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: So you know, I was actually laid off in my

738
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: job for six months, so you know, things were very

739
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: difficult for me. But at the end of the day,

740
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: I just something just told me just keep going. I

741
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: go to ram sire as our guest. Have you shared

742
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: any of this with your NFL teammates a little bit,

743
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: a little bit um, just some you know, I'm closer

744
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: to some guys than others, but you know, I'm waiting

745
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: for that moment when you know, they really want to

746
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: hear what's going on, and I'll you know, I'll tell

747
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: them everything. But I don't want to just throw everything

748
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: on somebody right away. You know, I'm not a person

749
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: that likes to give my luggage to others. It's a

750
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: nice way of putting it. So in talking to some

751
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: of the coaches about you, they say, you know, you're

752
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: so appreciative, got a big smile on your face. You're

753
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: grateful for everything that comes with being an NFL player.

754
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Can you touch on that this was an opportunity that

755
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see coming in the last four months. I

756
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: never saw it coming. So the days that it's hard

757
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: to get out of bed and it's hard to push

758
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: through that extra rap or it's hard to push through that,

759
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to just finish that last rep

760
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 1: of sprint. Like I think to myself, you know, I'd

761
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: rather be struggling here than struggling putting gas in my

762
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: car and going to deliver pizzas or having to you know,

763
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm appreciative everything that comes with this, no matter how

764
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: hard it gets. I asked for this, I prayed for this.

765
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: This is what I wanted, and this is what I got.

766
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: I would rather have it this way than any other way.

767
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: So where were you delivering those pizzas? Was that back

768
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: in the Columbuss area. It was in the Columbuss area.

769
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: It was about ten minutes away from my home. It's

770
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: definitely an experience. You know. I made decent money, of course,

771
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: not what I wanted to do. But at that time

772
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I was working probably two three jobs, and you know

773
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: I would leave in the morning, come home for an hour, change,

774
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: go to my next job, go work out. It was

775
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: very difficult, but I knew those were the sacrifices I

776
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: had to make of, you know, not spending money on

777
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: things I wanted to, but things I needed to making

778
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: sure that I, you know, didn't go out and all

779
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. You know, for about two to

780
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: three months, I was kind of just to myself and

781
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: just it felt like a dark place. But in my eyes,

782
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I knew I had to make those sacrifices in order

783
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: to get to where I wanted to be. So if

784
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: you're listening to the game on the radio while you

785
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: were delivering, you might have been listening to me and

786
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham. You know the Bengals games do come in

787
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: and Columbus, Hey, they do. They I probably was listening

788
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: to you. I just didn't realize it had too many

789
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: emotions running on through my mind. So is there a

790
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: bit of an off factor in being here and trying

791
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: to cover Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd and in interacting

792
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, etc. Oh it's my first month here.

793
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: Was such an off factor? I mean, until the State's

794
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: still an off factor. I'm still I'm starting to get

795
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: used to it each and every day because you know,

796
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: they are they are They're just regular people at the

797
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: end of the day. But you know, there is still

798
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: an off factor. Definitely still an off factor. But they

799
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: think about this thing that I love the most is

800
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: they treat me as if I'm one of them. None

801
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: of them, you know, even with the season that they

802
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: had last year, Jam Marches being, you know, the rookie

803
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: of the year and Joe Burring Burrow, you know, taking

804
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the Super Bowl like they don't it,

805
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: They're and glowed about it. You know, Burrow treats me

806
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: as if you know, I was the same as him.

807
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Shamar doesn't talk down on me. He talks to me

808
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: as if I was a friend, as you know, I

809
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: just won the MVP or something. So something about this

810
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: team that you know, they don't dwell on the last season,

811
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, they treat it everyone like a brother. And

812
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate that, and honestly, that helps motivate

813
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: me and push me forward. Last thing, who will be

814
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: watching on Friday night at Paul Brown Stadium and will

815
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: tears be flowing down your eyes during the national anthem?

816
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: You just said that, and I just got chills on

817
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: my body and I almost started tearing up. My mother

818
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: will be there, my brother will be there, my cousins

819
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: will be there. Like I'm starting to think about it

820
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to get emotional myself when I step

821
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: out on the field the first time. If you guys

822
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: have the cameras on me, you will see tears come

823
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: out of my mom my eyes. If you find my

824
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: mother in the stadium, you'll see her crying to Boo,

825
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: You're an easy guy to root for. Best of luck

826
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of camp and hopefully our long NFL career.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. That's that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for this episode of The Bengals Booth Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Dan Horde, and thanks for listening to The Bengals Booth

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