1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug gottli. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 3: welcome in. You know, I again, I'm allowed to be 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: judgmental in this job. I know that people always say, like, 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: don't be judgmental of people, but that's what we do 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: as human beings, right, that's what we do as human beings. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: Is as human beings, what we like to do is 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: make judgments. Cast judgments. 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: We do. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Now hopefully they're based upon some facts, not just rumor 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: or whatever. But we like to cast judgments. And I 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: watched last night and Freddie Freeman becomes the hero. But 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: the show, Hey O, Tony Thing and you the Japanese 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: players from the Dodgers are literally like celebrating and jumping 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: with joy. If you listen to us on the radio show, 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: we talked about it, Jay Stu talked about it like 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: the actual joy that it felt like the Dodgers players 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: had when they won. And then if you listen to 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: Show Hayes postgame interview with Fox where he's like, I 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: just want to go to sleep, you know, so I 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: can get up and pitch tomorrow and win. Like that's it. 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: The only thing that matters to them is winning. And 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: yet it does sound cliche to say, but this is 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: the difference in the Japanese culture and in some other cultures, 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: including hours or American baseball and look, Latin baseball players 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: are predominantly a little bit more flashy. That's their culture. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: American baseball players there's a mix of and there's constant 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: the fight between new school and old school whatever. Japanese players, 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like it matters young or old. They 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: are just wired to be unbelievably respectful of the game, 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: unbelievably competitive. And if you remember, didn't they win the 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: World Baseball Cup, right and they didn't have the talent 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: that we had or other teams had. Why did they win? 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: Because they're wired the right way from a young age. 37 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: And I've shared this with this story with you on 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: radio before, but I'll do. 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 3: It on on the in the Bonus podcast. 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Now. 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: I had a friend who worked for a car company 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: and half of their cars are made in Japan, half 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: of the main America. And he's like, look, you do 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: what you want. But if it were me, I'd only 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: buy a car that when I open up the driver's 46 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: side door and it says where the cars made if 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: it's made in Japan, our same factories, with our same standards. 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: In Japan, we have no custodial service because people take 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: care of their stuff. In America, we have costoto service, 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: and people's areas are almost all messier than they are 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: in Japan. There's a pride and workmanship there that is taught, 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: that is iterated and reiterated and pounded in their heads, 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: and the respect factor is there. 54 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: I watch show, Hey, I watch him celebrate, and I 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: just think, not only is he great, and maybe he's 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: not humble at home. Maybe he talks shit on everybody 58 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: at home, Maybe he gives everybody the finger, Maybe he's 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: a gambling addict. I don't know. But the image that's 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: portrayed on TV is one which is wired to play 61 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: with joy and energy and passion, and he does just that. 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: I do think it's in the wiring of the Japanese player, 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: and I think it's been really successful. 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: That's what the Fox say. 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Is be sure to catch live editions of The Doug 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific 67 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Let's get to the Fox Say and Now. 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: Every day of this time and the Bonus podcast play 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 3: for your portion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio, 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Fox Sports One. 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Here's Dan Patrick talking about show. 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: Hey, we're actually watching the greatest baseball player of all time. 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: We're watching him in real time. It's happening right now. 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: It's not one of those Hey, you should have seen 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: that guy play. He's the greatest baseball player of all time. 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: Babe Ruth did something, but he didn't do it together. 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: He didn't do a combination. That doesn't mean he couldn't 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: have done it, but he didn't do it. He was 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: a great pitcher, best pitcher in the game, and then 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 4: all of a sudden decided to be the greatest hitter. 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: Show. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: Hey, o tany with what he and he pitches tonight, 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: So you're going to have that performance where you walk 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: him four times. Babe goten to the point where he's 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: getting Bond's treatment. One of the home runs. I went, oh, 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: what are we doing you? How could you possibly put 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: it anywhere near that? And they did, And I'm thinking 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. But watching that last night, or at 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: least as long as I could, you're watching the best 91 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: player in baseball history. 92 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 5: Now. 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: I know people are going to say, well, what about 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter, But what he 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: is doing at the same time, and imagine if he 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: goes out there tonight and pitches five or six innings 97 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: quality baseball. 98 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy really when you think 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: about it that way. I also would tell you, and again, 100 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: I'm not a baby Ruth of a Shinado. I know 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: that he's widely considered the greatest up until up until now, 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: Baby Ruth didn't steal fifty bases, So I don't know 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: this guy's It's so much fun to watch somebody who's 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: that good at what they do. 105 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: And the other part too, it is. 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: Obviously he speaks better English than whether he needs a 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: true translator or wants a true translator, whatever, he's comfortable, 108 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: it doesn't doesn't bother me. But he has an infectious way. 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: It's very it's very Mike Trout like. And I know 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: when I say that, we like, well, watch up, Mike 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: Trout doesn't win in big game. The thing about Mike 112 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: Trout has always been He always has this kind of 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: infectious energy spirit and he just obviously jumps off the 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: screen as being the best player when he was playing 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: in his prime. He has the Showhy has that same thing, 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: Jase Doo. He has that same kind of a boyish 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: charm smile and you know, desire to be playing out there, 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: which and I know the cynic says, anytime you're making 119 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: seven hundred million dollars to play a kid's game, of 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: course you feel that way. But I really feel that 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: it's a it's a distinct difference between him and some 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: guys in the game. There's some really good players and 123 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: they seem to like it, but he seems to truly 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: love it and play with joy. 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's the thing for me watching him. Uh. 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: This is David Ortiz, Derek Jeter and a Rod and 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: Kevin Burkhardt talking about Freddy Freeman. 128 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 6: Watching Freddie Freeman hitting the ball, he just brought me 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 6: flashed back like like it seems like when we left 130 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 6: that moment from the last year, wife Sis Ray, this 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 6: last year, this year, lu Kevin, this guy's I mean, 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: it's you don't know, when these guys are cold, when 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: they're gonna get out because they go from struggling to 134 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 6: pull this right. That's what great, great players are all about. 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 7: And Poppy, I couldn't agree with you more. And you know, 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 7: we gotta give some flowers to Dave Roberts. I mean, 137 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 7: he looks calm, cool and collected, and we've been kind 138 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 7: of joking around that he reminds us of mister team 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 7: mister Joe Torrey. 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 5: But he gets paid. 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: Excuse me, he gets paid for what he did the 142 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 7: last nine innings. 143 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: Right. 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 7: He pushes every button. He knows the schwaster better than anybody, 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 7: and he's com con collected, but he's pushing all the 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 7: right buttons and he's being a great manager. 147 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 8: He Freddy Freeman now one of four players with multiple 148 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 8: walk off homers in the postseason. Freddy you Correa, Bernie, Wow, 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 8: that's what a list. That's some list, and Freddy Freeman's 150 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 8: on it. Just incredible. He goes down, he's already goes 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 8: down in Dodgers lower in the Hall of Famer, but 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 8: he just keeps adding to it. 153 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: Now, well, Freddy Freeman, who's Almandina High School, right, which 154 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: is my brother and sisters high school, and they have 155 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman Field out there as well. And you know 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: there's some guys, I know, analytics guys want to tell 157 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: you that there's no such thing as clutching this right, 158 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: It's all a numbers game. Whatever that guy's clutch, I 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: don't think there's any argument about it. And look at 160 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: how good he was with the Braves as well. Here's 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: Colin Cowhert talking about the Chiefs. 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 9: They're still fighting their way. Here's the scary thing, though, 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 9: six five weeks ago we were saying, what does Kansas 164 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 9: City do well? I'm watching last night against the Commanders 165 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 9: in a blowout win, and I'm thinking, what don't they 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 9: do well? They have more thirty point games and double 167 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 9: digit wins right now than all of last year, and 168 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 9: we're at the halfway point. So they haven't been this 169 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 9: deep offensively since twenty twenty two. Four hundred yards three 170 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 9: times in the last month. She Rice is clearly clearly 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 9: a number one, Xavier Worthy clever number two, Juju Smith 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 9: Schuster a perfect number three, and Travis Kelce's not done. 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 9: They have not punted in the first half of their 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 9: last three games. Their defense is number two in the league. 175 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 9: So and the scary thing is they're missing two offensive linemen, 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 9: so they're not quite right yet. They're just not quite 177 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 9: buttoned up on the front. But I said this two 178 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 9: weeks ago, I said it last week, and I'll say 179 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 9: it again. I think Kansas City is a touchdown better 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 9: than the second best team in the league. And I 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 9: still think this morning they're finding their way. 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think it's fair. 183 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: It is hard to tell based upon who they're playing against, 184 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: but there's no question and who the quarterback is for 185 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: the other team, but there's no question that. This is 186 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: why I never jumped ship on the Kansa Chiefs. You 187 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: have a great quarterback, you have a great coach, and 188 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: you have whatever they're doing culture wise has allowed them 189 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: to be successful. And you know, like, look, there's a 190 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: reason they fought so hard to get Rushie Rice back 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: when I think Jay Suw and I both think he 192 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: shouldn't be playing football. That said, you know, like, look 193 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: he's back playing, so you know, obviously. 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna go with him. They're 195 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: really good. 196 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: The turn was a couple of weeks ago we talked 197 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: about on the show when they were even when they 198 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: got beat. It was like seven point five yards a play. 199 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: Like they have figured out offensively and they've gotten healthy enough. 200 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be about defense and we'll see when 201 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: it steps up in the level of competition. That's what 202 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: the Fox says. 203 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: I say. Be sure to catch live editions of The 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show weekday hes at three pm Eastern noon 205 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 206 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart. 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 5: To walk or intentional walk show. Hill Tani. He was 209 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 5: intentionally walked four times last night after he hit his 210 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: second home run and then he was unintentionally intentionally walked, 211 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: so five walks and extra innings, and the manager, John 212 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Schneider was asked, if this is going to continue, We're. 213 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 10: Trying to pitch around him. You trust sir Anthony to 214 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 10: to make pitches to do that, and sometimes for pitchers 215 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 10: it's it's hard to do that. You know, when you're 216 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 10: you're kind of trying to throw a ball and didn't 217 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 10: put it where he wanted to put it. But you know, 218 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 10: he had a great game. He's a great player. But 219 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 10: I think, you know, after that, you just kind of 220 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 10: take the bet out of his hands. 221 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 7: And not to give away secrets, but that's pretty much 222 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 7: what we should expect going forward. 223 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 5: So one of the good things about last night, what 225 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: I thought was one of the cooler things, is that 226 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 5: it was a true, like shared experience among those who 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: cover sports. So as soon as the football game ended, 228 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 5: you got your NFL Twitter and then you get everybody 229 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 5: who has a boot check mark. And this is all 230 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: rhetorical because bot check marks don't mean anything, but I 231 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: mean the former Boo check Mark brigade. You have to 232 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 5: weigh in on everything that's significant in the world people. 233 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 5: You know, someone like Jamel Hill is like there should 234 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: be a rule against walking in one player more than 235 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: once intentionally. So you just kind of have these fly 236 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 5: by reactions to things. Kevin Wilds I love his content. 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: I think he's a very underrated part of First Things First, 238 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 5: and I think this is tongue in cheek, but he 239 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: actually wrote something that summed up a portion of the 240 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 5: Twitter reaction last night. He writes, this is bad for baseball, 241 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 5: bad for fans, and bad for your own picture's confidence. 242 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: I will just say this. It's really good strategy because 243 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: Mookie Bets sucks ass. Mookie Bets did not make them 244 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: pay once for walking Shohio Tani five times. Mookie Bets, 245 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: I just dug this up. I came across the box score. 246 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: In twenty eighteen, the last game that went eighteen innings 247 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: Dodgers red Sox when Munsey walked it off. Mooki in 248 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 5: that game was zero for seven. Mooki last night was 249 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: one for eight with kind of a ground ball between 250 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: the five to six hole, but most of them were 251 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: pop ups, which we all have come to known that 252 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 5: when Mookie struggles, he has these uncompetitive at bats with popouts. 253 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Thank God for Muki's other traits, because he's not making 254 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: the bou Jays pay for walking. So why would John 255 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 5: Schneider pitch to show hey for the rest of the series. 256 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 257 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: I think it's again eddiebody who says, like the rules whatever. 258 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean. 259 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: I just felt like, you're watching John Schneider do something 260 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: you have to do. It's the ultimate sign of respect, 261 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: but it's also the ultimate sign of Hey, I'm gonna 262 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: make somebody else beat me. Make somebody else beat me. Yeah, 263 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: I agree with it wholeheartedly. 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: So I just got done basically telling you what frustrates 265 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: me about Mookie Bets. Yeah, he did have. He did 266 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 5: have the time after the game, after this eighteen inning 267 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: game in the clashouse last night, to tell some kind 268 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: of a joke. I think he was joking. The question 269 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: is definitely strange. The reporter doesn't quite question this the 270 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: right way. But this is Mookie Bets in the clubhouse 271 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: after going one for eight, stranding a whole lot of people. 272 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: Mookie Bets after the game. When you put your. 273 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 7: Head off, what will you think about when you go 274 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: to bed tonight and put your head on the tonight? 275 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: What will you will you think about show? Hey? Will 276 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: you think about Freddy? What jumps out? 277 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 7: I'm probably not gonna think about another man while I'm in. 278 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: Day, all right, So take away the fact that he 279 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 5: went one for a take away the fact that he 280 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: stranded all those base runners. He played a really good shortstop, 281 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: and he also pointed out something to the clubhouse that 282 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: I love. So this is how people in clubhouses talk. 283 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: You know, the last bastion of political incorrectness is the 284 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: locker room clubhouses. This is how guys talk, and and 285 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: the problem is when MOOKI kind of gets outside of 286 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: this and does these kind of woke podcasts where he 287 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: can't make fun of gays and he can't even like 288 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: laugh at gays. So that like uncomfortable laughter by the 289 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 5: reporters was like him being very like unwoke in the moment. 290 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: But this is how dudes in clubhouses talk. 291 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so what what? What? What annoyed you? 292 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 5: What annoys me is, first of all, people take offense 293 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: to something like that. Oh, and this is how people 294 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: in clubhouses talk. It's just when Mookie gets on these 295 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 5: other podcasts and he has to be buttoned up, he 296 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: can't laugh at gays like that, but in the walker 297 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,359 Speaker 5: room you still can't. 298 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was he could have said pause as well. 299 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: That was That was also a good one. I don't know, 300 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: I just I thought it was funny. I like, I 301 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: love Here's what I like. I like that you had 302 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: a bad night, Grant, you won the game. So like, 303 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: had they lost the game and he lost in the game, 304 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if he would have had wherewithal because 305 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: what happens is you get you get asked the question, 306 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: and you just kind of start going into your thing 307 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: and spilling out your feelings or whatever for some of 308 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: these guys. But it does show you know that he's 309 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: actually listening to the question. You know, if you weren't 310 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: listening to the question, you wouldn't have been able to 311 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: have that cute, kind of funny line, right. So, and yeah, 312 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't know anybody who is offended. If they are, 313 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: that's a them problem. 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: We're not, you know what I. 315 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: Mean, Like, I just I don't who needs to engage 316 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: in people like that? I would agree if somebody's offended, 317 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: their annoying. 318 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: What else? 319 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: Something happened during the much worse product last night Monday 320 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 5: Night Football, where uh, I guess Troy Aikman said the 321 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: quiet part out loud. Troy Aikman's either getting a lot 322 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: of credit for this or he's getting shipped for saying it. 323 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 5: But he's getting a lot of attention for saying this 324 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 5: in the middle of a Chiefs game with Patrick mahomes. 325 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 9: See, he gets unnecessary roughness defense number ninety. 326 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 5: Five, fifteen yard penalty automatic first down. Yeah it did 327 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 5: in the land out I'm threw them down. 328 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it wasn't a lot. But with that said, 329 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 11: you know, they you just when it comes to quarterbacks, 330 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 11: especially this one. You know they're going to protect them, 331 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 11: and you know, Johnny. 332 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: Does a great job. 333 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 11: He gets back there and it's just a lot of 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 11: frustration coming out on his part. It's an easy call, yeah, 335 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 11: an obvious flag, and dan Quinn can only shave his head. 336 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: So I think that what annoys me is like you 337 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 5: get a lot of those responses like you can't even 338 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: touch the quarterback anymore, and it's like, how many backups 339 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: are going to start this week? I mean, you have 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 5: an already poor product and you're putting quarterbacks that aren't 341 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: even the starters to start these games. I think that 342 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: if anything, maybe the roughing the passer rules aren't strict enough. 343 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: There has to be like a deterrent in place. That's 344 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 5: what people don't understand. It's like they're not necessarily just 345 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 5: calling that play in a vacuum and it wasn't that egregious. 346 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: They're trying to create a deterrent for defensive players stay 347 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 5: the fuck away from quarterbacks because our product depends on it. 348 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more, could not agree with 349 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: you more. I mean, honestly, like we disagree on lots 350 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: of different stuff, but it actually plays into one of 351 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: the things. Again, I know there's more to it, but 352 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: you've been on this hey, zero hope. The NFL product's 353 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: not that good. And I will tell you that in 354 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: many instances where your most correct is these teams that 355 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: have to play backup quarterbacks and you're like, oh my god, 356 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: he started to realize there's like twenty people on earth 357 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: who can do this job, you know, and you start 358 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: seeing backups and then all of a sudden, you know. 359 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: And the other part about a backup quarterback is oftentimes 360 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: it's not like you have ten other starters healthy at 361 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: this point in the season and it's just a quarterback. 362 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: Oftentimes it's quarterback, and then it's one or two other guys, 363 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: and the star quarterback can cover for those other guys. 364 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: The backup quarterback cannot. 365 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: Plus he's also just not good enough at something and 366 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: that's why he's not a starter. 367 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I completely. 368 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: Agree that you have to keep those guys healthy, and 369 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: people who don't get that are annoying. 370 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: And just to I want to play Troy Aikman one 371 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: more time because he said something very important and I 372 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: think those two weeks ago. 373 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 11: The product just not very good. I'm gonna be honest, 374 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 11: it's just not very good. I mean, this is ridiculous. 375 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 376 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 5: So the reaction to people that can't touch quarterbacks anymore, 377 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 5: Mookie Betts in the locker room, and then the intentional walks. 378 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: People crying about the intentional walks is they want to 379 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 5: see show how hit home runs? 380 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: I think people crying about the intentional walks is annoying. 381 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 5: Why are we doing this because we can? All right, 382 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 5: so this is an all timer. If there wasn't NFL, 383 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 5: and if there wasn't one of the greatest baseball games 384 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: of all time, I think we would focus on this. 385 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: I mean, this is world class shit. Kendrick Perkins goes 386 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: on a podcast seemingly takes credit for Jah Morant's stardom 387 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: and then just gets into some weird, mishy mouse shit 388 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: about why he doesn't fuck with jaw and I guess 389 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: afterwards we could have a conversation of what that means. 390 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 12: I was cool with Jo at one point, but then 391 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 12: when Joe started getting in trouble with some of his 392 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 12: stuff off the court and shit like that, I had 393 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 12: to speak on it. Me and Joe joall don't really 394 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 12: fuck with me. No more on that shit. But to 395 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 12: be honest in that type of situation, I don't fuck 396 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 12: with Jo And you know why I don't fuck I 397 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 12: fuck with his daddy, but I don't fuck with Joe. 398 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 12: You know why don't fuck with job because it's like, Bro, 399 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 12: the reason I'm so mad at you is because ESPN 400 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 12: packed up for a week and when y'all was listen, 401 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 12: y'all had the city rocking. ESPN ain't never packed up 402 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 12: and went down there, spent millions of dollars to go 403 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 12: do all access on y'all in Memphis. They did that 404 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 12: for Job Bro. I was the one that was praising Joe. 405 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 12: I was the one that said, hey man, I came 406 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 12: out and said, hey, look we could redo that draft. 407 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 12: Josh should have win number one and no Zion. In fact, 408 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 12: all of Disney business City, fast business bosses hearing me out, 409 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 12: we go do all access Bro. We down in Memphis, 410 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 12: shine and light on you. ESPN will never do that shit. 411 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 12: We we're knowing you the next chosen one, and you 412 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 12: fuck up. Guess what? Not only do that make you 413 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 12: look bad? That make me look bad? 414 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: Do we think they' really spent millions of dollars to 415 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: go down there and do it? All access peace, Like 416 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if he knows so much. 417 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: That costs, but uh, I thought it was great. I 418 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: thought it was great, honestly, And look, we can only 419 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: play that for you because we can here on the 420 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show. I actually thought it's really an interesting 421 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: look as to what it's like, what it's like to 422 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: be a U to be a talking head and have 423 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: real relationships with people that you have to talk about 424 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: like you will if you're really good at doing this, 425 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: if you want to be really good at doing it, 426 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna lose a couple of friends because at some point, 427 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: and they probably weren't your friends to begin with, or 428 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: some relationships, but at some point you have to be 429 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: honest about people who are close to you. If you're not, 430 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: then you just become a sicker fan and lots of 431 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: the and look, it's an easy road. And there's been 432 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: guys that have been you know, good or gotten by 433 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: and they take it easy on their guys or whatever. 434 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: I just I. 435 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: Actually don't agree with that, and I actually agree with 436 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: Perke on this one. Why can we play it for 437 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: you because we can. That's it for the end of 438 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: the Modes Podcast. Check out the radio show every day 439 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: three to five Eastern twelve too Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio. 440 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm Doug Godlib