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Speaker 2: college are you going to?
Speaker 3: I haven't got my financial package from Duke yet, but
Speaker 3: Duke is my passion.
Speaker 2: Why is Duke your dream school? I've been to the campus,
Speaker 2: I've toured and I.
Speaker 4: Fell in love with it, fell in love with.
Speaker 2: Like the like the classes, the people there, the overall
Speaker 2: like experience of being there, their connections. How much is
Speaker 2: Duke going to rite? You really about seventy five?
Speaker 5: My low?
Speaker 6: It's undergrad So I'm still thinking about Staley. Yeah that's
Speaker 6: three hundred grand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know for a degree.
Speaker 7: Yeah about you?
Speaker 8: Why is that your school?
Speaker 2: Because it's like saturated with music artists, with producers, with
Speaker 2: opportunities out at every corner for music in particular. How
Speaker 2: much is it seventy five gosh, seventy five thousand dollars?
Speaker 4: I'm going to reach for what I can and if
Speaker 4: the n YU is it, then I'm going to reach
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so serious.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I tore Buffalo back in November, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, I feel like it'll be a lot like
Speaker 2: high school as far as like arriving, like they're like,
Speaker 2: I know, my parents talk about like college was like
Speaker 2: the best years of their life and and so I
Speaker 2: feel like the experiences that I'm going to get at
Speaker 2: college are going to be like unmatched.
Speaker 5: So You're going all the way to Buffalo State just
Speaker 5: to have an upgraded high school experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keyword upgraded.
Speaker 6: Well, if I wanted to sell a college to the
Speaker 6: normal group of semi unmotivated, semi uninformed people, I would
Speaker 6: start with the football team. I would move on to
Speaker 6: the parties. I would then go on to shiny pictures
Speaker 6: of people at graduation. We are we are. I wouldn't
Speaker 6: mention student debt. I wouldn't mention all the hours you
Speaker 6: have in between class because most colleges aren't good at
Speaker 6: helping people through that.
Speaker 4: Picking a school is a complicated process, between applications and
Speaker 4: essays and costs and visitation and the stuff out there
Speaker 4: on the web. It's just overwhelming. The average person doesn't
Speaker 4: know what to look for because this isn't their world,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you get thrust into
Speaker 4: it and it's information overload, and how do you synthesize
Speaker 4: it into something that makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: The new thirtieth edition of Best Colleges was just released
Speaker 1: this morning, and we've got it.
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly is editor of US News and World Report.
Speaker 6: Could see you again, Brian Kelly, think this is getting
Speaker 6: to be an annual visit and we like it.
Speaker 7: If you were to ask me what's the worst thing
Speaker 7: that has happened to higher education in the last twenty
Speaker 7: or thirty years. I would say, unabashedly, a fledgling magazine
Speaker 7: decided to start ranking colleges.
Speaker 1: Which schools will the greatest chance of giving you the
Speaker 1: American dream, the usual suspects.
Speaker 4: I have to say Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford are
Speaker 4: the top five.
Speaker 7: The whole world wants to go to these places. Education
Speaker 7: is a brand now, it's a label that's an industry.
Speaker 6: One of the things US News and World Report measures
Speaker 6: is the percentage of people the college rejects. That the
Speaker 6: more people you reject, the better college you must be.
Speaker 5: I always look at their alumni. They're very royal alumni.
Speaker 4: People who go to Princeton love Princeton. They give it money,
Speaker 4: they come back, they stay engaged with the school. That
Speaker 4: makes a difference.
Speaker 7: And you're making with this ever evolving matrix of points
Speaker 7: really important things like your reputation, how other people think
Speaker 7: about you. It turns into a higher at arms race.
Speaker 2: It's like Nikes versus Gucci. They're both shoes. They both
Speaker 2: work the same, but one has more value because of
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 6: Some colleges figured out if they made their dorms nicer
Speaker 6: or their gyms fans here, more people would want to come.
Speaker 3: What's up with their dorms? What do they have?
Speaker 6: Beautiful campus?
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten different residents.
Speaker 6: There's a food service.
Speaker 7: It's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 6: If more people wanted to come, they discovered the US
Speaker 6: News and World Report would rank them higher.
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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador
Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States
Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will
Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home
Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America a
Speaker 1: laws border and families will be protected.
Speaker 4: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security, ones
Speaker 4: I have been lobbied by some of the finest people
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 6: The US News and World Report ranked them hire more
Speaker 6: people wanted to come. If more people wanted to come,
Speaker 6: they could charge more because their piece of paper was
Speaker 6: worth more. So the ratchet kept turning, and it kept turning,
Speaker 6: and it kept turning.
Speaker 7: The parents are demanding the college. Students are demanding you
Speaker 7: have to build it. Otherwise they won't come because your
Speaker 7: college isn't good enough.
Speaker 6: The idea that you can spend four years not living
Speaker 6: at home, going to class three hours a day, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's the definition of privilege. Wherever you came from, best
Speaker 6: campus fized, I mean, it is abulous.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: So let's be really clear. You shouldn't go to a
Speaker 6: famous college. There's no reason. I hope you go to
Speaker 6: a great college, but I also know that some of
Speaker 6: the cheapest colleges in America could be great if you
Speaker 6: make them great, if you use your time there to
Speaker 6: have a series of experiences that change your life in
Speaker 6: other people's lives. Because that's what you get. You get
Speaker 6: four years of freedom and leverage. What are you going
Speaker 6: to do with it? Because if all you're doing is
Speaker 6: saying I'm going to give up four years of my
Speaker 6: life and all my money for a piece of paper,
Speaker 6: at the end, it doesn't make sense to pay what
Speaker 6: you're currently paying for the paper.
Speaker 8: What really was apparent to me was how much debt
Speaker 8: can be that ball and chain on your ankle when
Speaker 8: you actually hop into the real world. Once you can
Speaker 8: change that mental state of debt actually doesn't have to
Speaker 8: be an option. I can do this a different way.
Speaker 8: There's a newfound freedom that comes with that. Going forward
Speaker 8: with school, I knew that I wanted to pay.
Speaker 6: For it.
Speaker 8: Later on in my senior year, and I went and
Speaker 8: toured Wisconsin Lutheran College. I went to the school with
Speaker 8: the mindset, I'm going to hate this. I was thinking,
Speaker 8: am I shorty myself by going to a small school?
Speaker 8: Will I be able to get the job I want to?
Speaker 8: Because I went to ana school. Everybody knows the University
Speaker 8: of Wisconsin Madison, the Badgers. How many people know the
Speaker 8: Wisconsin Lutheran College Warriors as exciting as D three football is.
Speaker 8: I knew we weren't going to be known for that.
Speaker 8: But then when that tuition bill came paired with some
Speaker 8: scholarships that I earned in high school, meant I wouldn't
Speaker 8: be going in depth my first year. That was an
Speaker 8: eye opener.
Speaker 3: I'm convinced that most of the mistakes around college are
Speaker 3: simply college choice. It's as simple. Thirty years ago, the
Speaker 3: difference in cost of a community college, a state school,
Speaker 3: and a private school was not a lot, and the
Speaker 3: difference in what you got thirty years ago in terms
Speaker 3: of the quality of education was a lot. The weird
Speaker 3: thing is is that the quality of education has come
Speaker 3: up on the community college so much and on the
Speaker 3: state school so much that they're almost all three parallel now,
Speaker 3: but the cost went dramatically different. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of people get the basic knowledge of business,
Speaker 3: the basic knowledge of a communication, the basic knowledge and
Speaker 3: I field at a community college and get a really
Speaker 3: good career out of it. Information is just much more
Speaker 3: accessible now than it was thirty years ago to the
Speaker 3: average person.
Speaker 6: So let's talk for a second about whether you should
Speaker 6: go to college at all. Given that every single course
Speaker 6: at MIT is available online for free, given that with
Speaker 6: motivation you could cover four years of college courseworth in
Speaker 6: a year, that there are ways to cobble together what
Speaker 6: you would learn in college and even show up with
Speaker 6: the degree without going in the front door, without paying
Speaker 6: full price. And the giant shift that's happening is that
Speaker 6: the people who are hiring what they want from you
Speaker 6: is not that you went to a school with a
Speaker 6: better reputation or at least a better football team. What
Speaker 6: they want from you is it's the real skills, creativity, honesty, directness, leadership, resilience,
Speaker 6: and I think we've got to strip away the easy
Speaker 6: and fun part, stop rewarding it, stop confusing it with
Speaker 6: a useful signal, and instead get back to the hard part,
Speaker 6: which is how we're going to be productive, generous human beings.
Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador
Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States
Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day and deported. You will never return.
Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and
Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. Do
Speaker 1: what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump America's laws, Border
Speaker 1: and families will be protected.
Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,