Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bruns,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It just dawned on me.
Speaker 1: This is our final preseason edition of Talking Cowboys. Hey
Speaker 1: like that Tuesday morning here at the Star in PRIs
Speaker 1: goe as we get you set for the final preseason
Speaker 1: practice of twenty eighteen, which is free and open to
Speaker 1: the public at Ford Center at the Star at eleven
Speaker 1: am this morning, eleven fifteen is when they on the
Speaker 1: on the schedule anyway that they say the practice will start,
Speaker 1: but the doors will be open much prior to that.
Speaker 1: If you're in the area, come out and watch the
Speaker 1: Cowboys practice this morning, and uh, we get you ready
Speaker 1: for Cowboys Texans and cut down day three o'clock on Saturday.
Speaker 1: In the NFL. The next time Talking Cowboys proper is together,
Speaker 1: they'll have a fifty three man roster. Have We don't
Speaker 1: set that schedule yet. Re I think Rob just unofficially
Speaker 1: did that, did you officially not do a show on Friday.
Speaker 1: It's what you're saying, Well, we may be doing joint show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was so Yeah, it's all combine. There some members
Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys, some members of the Break, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to cut the roster down today. We kind
Speaker 1: of started yesterday. You know. It's funny. I was on
Speaker 1: with Nate and Shannon yesterday. You know, I kind of
Speaker 1: filled in, helped out, you know, with the with their show,
Speaker 1: and we got into some roster talk again, some of
Speaker 1: the things that we were talking about. You and I
Speaker 1: thought Nate was gonna hit me. I went, I went,
Speaker 1: Nate three tight ends or four tight ends. He looked
Speaker 1: at me like, why are you bringing that, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, it's roster dog and Nate, Nate
Speaker 1: wants nothing to do with roster He really really didn't
Speaker 1: wan anything. Do you want nothing to do with Nate
Speaker 1: hitting you either? No? Hell no, Nate hit me once,
Speaker 1: did he? This was in nineteen ninety three in London.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys played the Lions over in London and the
Speaker 1: game was played and then we had to wait. I
Speaker 1: was on the media, was on the charter coming back
Speaker 1: and we had to wait for hours after the game
Speaker 1: and had to go back to the hotel, but we
Speaker 1: had all checked out of our rooms, and so there's
Speaker 1: lobby hanging in the liars. We're all in the lobby
Speaker 1: and waiting for the bus to take us to the
Speaker 1: airport to fly out of there. And so we were
Speaker 1: in the lobby, bar area or whatever, and uh, Nate
Speaker 1: sees me at one point and about two hours into
Speaker 1: this weight and just in a playful gesture, sure, he
Speaker 1: takes his fist and puts it into my chest. And
Speaker 1: I'm still smarting from that twenty five years later. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it almost knocked the breath out of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll slap you on the back, and it's like a
Speaker 1: worker's comp type situation, you know. It's yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: know his own Nate. Yeah, Nate had no idea that
Speaker 1: now what effect he had. I saw give me a
Speaker 1: little indication of what those hits might be like it,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, he's got a little punch to him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's uh, it's it's always fascinating this
Speaker 1: time of year when you're trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: you're going to get this thing down. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the you know, they have their ideas. You
Speaker 1: have your ideas, and sometimes those ideas don't even mesh.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's what I think it's fun
Speaker 1: to talk about too. So it's like Nate, Nate doesn't
Speaker 1: want to talk about the backup quarterback. No quarterback now.
Speaker 1: And that cause telling Nate when we were watching the
Speaker 1: game the other day, I always, when we watched games together,
Speaker 1: always call out at the down and distance to him
Speaker 1: and you know how much they gain and who gains
Speaker 1: and all that. It got the second half of the
Speaker 1: game the other night, and Nate looked at me and guess,
Speaker 1: just stop stop. I don't care who. I don't care
Speaker 1: who's carrying the ball. I don't care. You know. He
Speaker 1: just said, just stop. So that's okay. I think everybody's
Speaker 1: looking at their watch at that point. It was funny.
Speaker 1: I was looking at my watch wondering where the fourth
Speaker 1: member of our team was at the outset of the
Speaker 1: show today, and here is Mickey is here. He was
Speaker 1: right next door. He was You couldn't hear me through
Speaker 1: the wall. That's why there needs to be a window
Speaker 1: in that wall and you can see what's going. But
Speaker 1: other broadcasting commitment yes, absolutely, follow up the owner on
Speaker 1: that one. I had to follow up the owner. Yes, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the first part of the owner talking
Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory, but I assume he continued to say,
Speaker 1: it's day to day, day to day, right, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody other than day to day. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you can say. Well, I think it was very
Speaker 1: irresponsible of Jason locke Offour, you know, if I hate
Speaker 1: when people throw stuff out like that, especially a national
Speaker 1: writer who's not around here every day and you kind
Speaker 1: of don't know the situation, but maybe somebody whispered to
Speaker 1: you is something that you know that's not factual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that I think that's irresponsible on his part. Well,
Speaker 1: but he got what he wanted because that bet that's
Speaker 1: the first time his name has ever been mentioned on
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Well, he's usually wrong, and that's I'll mention
Speaker 1: that as well. But you know, it's it's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: You know, Randy Gregory has a lot of things he's
Speaker 1: having to deal with and he doesn't need people putting
Speaker 1: stuff out there that's not I don't believe it's factual.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Rob, if the owner and a general manager
Speaker 1: does not know the situation, or he doesn't or is
Speaker 1: not aware of anything else about Randy Gregory, then Jason
Speaker 1: Lockeforney to shut his damn mouth, you know, because Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is going to know what is going on every
Speaker 1: step of the way with Randy Gregory, you know. And
Speaker 1: the fact that Jerry Jones has come out and said,
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of anything you know that I have
Speaker 1: you know, well, there are aspects to the program. They're
Speaker 1: they're confidential that not even the Joneses are necessarily yeah,
Speaker 1: or a reporter, Yeah, you know, right, but to that point,
Speaker 1: you're right, they're not aware of anything. But yeah, what
Speaker 1: Jerry and Stephen even said yesterday and the fan was
Speaker 1: this is day to day and he's got to he's
Speaker 1: he's that's his process, that's his situation. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a fight for him every single day to stay
Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow. Right now, as far as
Speaker 1: they know, he's in good standing. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: day to day. If you're all day to day because
Speaker 1: of where he is in the program exactly, you've been
Speaker 1: suspended a couple of times. As I said on the
Speaker 1: year last night, he's got two and a half strikes
Speaker 1: against him. He's fighting for his NFL life, right, there's
Speaker 1: no slip ups. So here's the problem with the NFL's
Speaker 1: drug policy. Rob used this one. It's supposed to be confidential.
Speaker 1: It's not, and it's not. And the reason it's not
Speaker 1: is because it leaks out of the NFL office and
Speaker 1: and they're the worst offenders of the whole bit. Right. Um.
Speaker 1: Number two, you know, there is the possibility that maybe
Speaker 1: something came up and it's on appeal and no one
Speaker 1: knows how it's going to turn out, so it's day
Speaker 1: to day. Uh. And then number three, if if you
Speaker 1: got something, don't throw mash potatoes at the wall and
Speaker 1: hope it sticks. Write the story, put your name on it, right,
Speaker 1: Don't act like, oh I can throw it out on
Speaker 1: Twitter and it doesn't matter, right, because it does matter.
Speaker 1: It does this case, it doesn't matter absolutely mat Right,
Speaker 1: he's got a website to write on, Yeah, so write
Speaker 1: the story, right? Uh So yeah, okay, that's I'm off
Speaker 1: my I mean, Twitter is a is an official forum.
Speaker 1: It's an extension of a writer's column or whatever. His
Speaker 1: website is going to be the death of our society.
Speaker 1: But it is it is when when you puts it
Speaker 1: it's as if you printed it in the newspaper. Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's from a journalistic standpoint exactly. That's the way it's evolved, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have substance behind things that
Speaker 1: you tweet, if you're a credential member of the media,
Speaker 1: or you don't, well you're supposed to do. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I find it unfortunate. I think you guys, everybody's right.
Speaker 1: If you've got something, say it, rite it, put it
Speaker 1: in black and white, don't don't don't. Just Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, kind of hearing, you know, kind of hear
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's there's things, there's things that
Speaker 1: we can talk about, and there's things we can't talk about.
Speaker 1: We hear things we can't talk about every day every day.
Speaker 1: But the things that we know, more than half the time,
Speaker 1: those things aren't true. Yeah, exactly though, So that's why
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it. We're going to eliminate the
Speaker 1: word journalism and it's going to be a communications major. Now.
Speaker 1: Well that's and it's sad, yeah, but that's But other
Speaker 1: than that, how you guys doing You got your donuts? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How about that? Duncan Donuts. Oh wow, I didn't even know. Yes,
Speaker 1: Duncan Donuts. Yeah you want someone got some donuts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Duncan Donuts of DFW came through to day. Personal looks
Speaker 1: like a g personalized donuts by the way, donuts. I
Speaker 1: actually had a couple all the way. Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm yes. But Duncan Donut's a big sponsor
Speaker 1: with the team, and but they were nice enough to break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would give us some donuts. They personalized, they personalized
Speaker 1: the donuts. Yeah, have you seen that, Bill, Look, I
Speaker 1: got a Brian brought us donut in there and ate
Speaker 1: ate the LSU Tiger donut by the way, just to
Speaker 1: see what it was like. There is one. Yeah, Brian
Speaker 1: brought show it at put my hands on it. It's
Speaker 1: your donut now, Bill, watch out for the orange stuff
Speaker 1: though it's yes. But yes, thank you, thank you Duncan
Speaker 1: Donuts DFW for doing that for us today. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I think I got cowboys that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a Missouri Tiger ended up being a green Tiger. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen a green I tell
Speaker 1: you look pretty good, but was looking look good though
Speaker 1: it was good at Stags fifty two. Yeah, all right, Um,
Speaker 1: anything else that you heard from the owner this morning
Speaker 1: that it's newsworthy. No, if you didn't hear, you said
Speaker 1: you didn't hear the Gregory Park. We discussed that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all this esoteric stuff. Evidently somebody's writing a boat
Speaker 1: a boat a book and asked Jerry what would he
Speaker 1: trade in his Hall of Fame for a Super Bowl trophy?
Speaker 1: And I don't know that's started to wildfire. However, he
Speaker 1: answered it. And to me, he wouldn't be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame if he didn't have a desire to
Speaker 1: win super Bowls? Right, So why the question. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's going cheap here and not trying. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to the regular season. Yeah, how about it? So anyway,
Speaker 1: that was the other topic here, the safety situation. We
Speaker 1: kind of know this, but Xavier Woods he thinks he's
Speaker 1: more likely for week two than week one, indicated that's
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier's probably gonna be okay for week one. We'll see. Um,
Speaker 1: that's the way Frasier put it. As Mickey says, players
Speaker 1: are always going to tell you they're fine. Um, anytime
Speaker 1: your shoulder pops out of place, that's going to get
Speaker 1: my attention. But we'll see that's that's encouraging at least
Speaker 1: that they've got a couple of veterans that should be
Speaker 1: ready to go for a week one at that position,
Speaker 1: which we documented very clearly yesterday is an issue. Does
Speaker 1: that keep? Does that keep a Huff on the fifty three?
Speaker 1: You think? I don't think so, you don't think. Do
Speaker 1: you think they'll go with the younger guys? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what direction they will go in. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm we're going to figure that out today. We're doing
Speaker 1: something for for the website with the fifty three man
Speaker 1: roster and kind of go through it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you could put Huff on this team after the
Speaker 1: way he played the other day. Really don't. And I now,
Speaker 1: does that mean that Robinson and those guys are better?
Speaker 1: I think that maybe you start off initially you think
Speaker 1: about Huff, but I sure wouldn't all know what what?
Speaker 1: What year is? He four fourth year? So that would
Speaker 1: mean salary is guaranteed if you have him on and
Speaker 1: he turns yeah, I just I would be real. I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a couple of spots here on
Speaker 1: this roster that they're gonna have to be a little
Speaker 1: creative with. I think Frederick Spot's going to be creative
Speaker 1: because they have to keep him on for one day
Speaker 1: if they want to keep him, if they want to
Speaker 1: put him on IR And I think I think Daytone
Speaker 1: Jones is the same way for them. I think Dayton
Speaker 1: Jones is a guy that they want to keep on
Speaker 1: the active roster for one day. And so now now
Speaker 1: you can't now all those things that we were talking about.
Speaker 1: And I do believe they're leaning towards keeping just six receivers.
Speaker 1: I mean the seventh receiver. I know I lost my
Speaker 1: mind yesterday on a couple of different shows, but I
Speaker 1: think it's more like six receivers. And it's gonna come
Speaker 1: down to again, like we've talked about a bunch and
Speaker 1: it's Thompson or Lenore. But if it's the six guy,
Speaker 1: I'm getting the feeling that that Thompson's the sixth guy
Speaker 1: over Lenore. It's kind of what I'm getting that feeling
Speaker 1: right now. So, uh, you know, we'll see. I haven't
Speaker 1: got a good feeling on the tight ends yet though
Speaker 1: that's another position. Here's a question about Frederick and I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten this answer yet. Could you NFI him? No, No,
Speaker 1: you can't put him on football injury. He's at once.
Speaker 1: He was asking to start once you pass like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the same thing they have, just trying to avoid that
Speaker 1: deal where you gotta oh he's well, I know he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on for one day. Okay, your roster is
Speaker 1: gonna have him and likely Daytone Jones. I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: if you if you could go ahead and reserve him.
Speaker 1: I know you can't do it for i R right now,
Speaker 1: but that would keep you from having to cut a
Speaker 1: guy that you'd maybe like to keep. This about Daytone Jones, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he being an injured player, yes, okay, can you how
Speaker 1: does it work as far as releasing an injured player, Well,
Speaker 1: you could waive him injured. It's sign him a six.
Speaker 1: You can't sign him back once you waive him injured. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you have then there's have to put him on
Speaker 1: i R if he clears waivers. Right, but if you
Speaker 1: want to sign him, you have to cannot release an
Speaker 1: injured player. You have to waive injury. You have to
Speaker 1: wave injured. That's the designation it tells everybody in the
Speaker 1: league that this guy's hurt. Right, you can't just try
Speaker 1: and you know that they have rules about waiving injured players. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the important thing is you can't then resign him.
Speaker 1: You can't like, if he clears, you cannot resign him,
Speaker 1: put him on injured reserve recall like you do with Frederick. Right,
Speaker 1: you can't jump for ten weeks because it's unlikely. I
Speaker 1: think it would be unlikely that a team would claim
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones because he qualifies for the injured for the
Speaker 1: veteran status, he's not a player. Yeah, See, being on
Speaker 1: a roster the first week, you could gamble you can
Speaker 1: claim him thinking that the injury is not more than
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they're trying to put him through. I mean,
Speaker 1: someone could have claimed Rico Gathers. But that's why they
Speaker 1: have the rule that you cannot make him active after
Speaker 1: you've waved injured him. Right. That's why you can't use
Speaker 1: that as a way to stash a player, right, right, Right,
Speaker 1: I said Rico Gathers. But yeah, they had to keep
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that they did with Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and Rico last year. You had to keep Rico gathers
Speaker 1: on for one day and then you turn around and
Speaker 1: put him on injured reserve and then resigned killing Moore. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a reason why it's good that they have now
Speaker 1: two players that you can recall, right because in the
Speaker 1: old days meeting two years ago, Dayton Jones would be
Speaker 1: placed on I R and a season would be over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and to me, this is a thing too with
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones as an eight week possibility is if you
Speaker 1: do get Randy, if you excuse me, if you get
Speaker 1: David Irving back, or if you don't get David Irving back,
Speaker 1: at least you have somebody like that. It's a long season.
Speaker 1: It's a long season there. And so are you are
Speaker 1: you saying you'd rather keep Daytone Jones than jehad Ward?
Speaker 1: Because I think it's one or the other, don't you?
Speaker 1: I do, I do and I And it could very
Speaker 1: well come down to that. But if you if you
Speaker 1: put if you put uh, if you put Daytone Jones
Speaker 1: on your active roster, you waive jahad Ward, he clears waivers,
Speaker 1: you could resign him back. Right. So that's my gamble
Speaker 1: right there. I'm gonna gamble that no one's gonna sign
Speaker 1: Jihad Ward back if that's the case, unless there's another
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy team out there that saw him when he
Speaker 1: was coming out and said, oh we had a high
Speaker 1: grade Adam, let's claim him and take a chance. So there,
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be what is jahad Ward's best fit?
Speaker 1: What defensive scheme is his best fit? Well? I think
Speaker 1: I think the best that he's played so far is they.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a defensive end. I like what
Speaker 1: they've done it at defensive tackle with him. I think
Speaker 1: people will see him as a defensive tackle. I don't
Speaker 1: think he has three yeah in a four. Three don't
Speaker 1: see him as a five technique in a three. Bad.
Speaker 1: That was a bad It's a bad. So the reason
Speaker 1: I asked that three four teams because Oakland gave up
Speaker 1: on him. They wouldn't be unlikely, right, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's a gamble that that that
Speaker 1: part of it I don't think is a gamble. You know.
Speaker 1: But well, we'll see this roster could very well have
Speaker 1: three guys again. Okay, now you have two injured guys
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to carry for a day. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have probably three draft picks. You know that that you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at you talk about Covington, you talk
Speaker 1: about you talk about Covington, you talk about Schultz, and
Speaker 1: then you talk about Scarbarbro. So those are three. So
Speaker 1: that's five players out of your fifty three that you
Speaker 1: might say, well, in normal circumstances, might be on the bubble.
Speaker 1: Three of those draft picks might be on the bubble
Speaker 1: if you had if you had position, if you had
Speaker 1: guys on the on the team that were you know,
Speaker 1: very that were good, they were better. You feel good
Speaker 1: about Scarborough? I don't no, I mean making the team. Oh,
Speaker 1: I do in them, Yeah, because he's a draft pick. See,
Speaker 1: this is where general managers that don't are not the owners.
Speaker 1: This is where general managers that aren't the owners protect
Speaker 1: their draft yeah, because they say, well, I can't keep
Speaker 1: cutting guys that I drafted. It's a bad look, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the owners can be seen, Oh we had seven picks,
Speaker 1: I cut three of my guys. Yeah, that's a bad
Speaker 1: look coming to miss time illness. But I think he
Speaker 1: can help you on special teams. It's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to him or March Lillard. Well, then they're gonna keep Lillard.
Speaker 1: Don't you think they keep March Lillard over him? Can't
Speaker 1: they keep seven veteran guy? It very well could keep seven.
Speaker 1: That's this some seven wide receivers. No, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm only keeping six offensive lineman. Remember Nicky, Nicky always
Speaker 1: keeps fifty. I just you know, they they and visit
Speaker 1: with some folks. They know the situation at offensive line.
Speaker 1: They know they have to go get some guys. They
Speaker 1: know that. But the problem is, I just mentioned it.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep You're gonna have to keep some guy.
Speaker 1: This roster is gonna look really funny on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna turn around on Monday and Tuesday and
Speaker 1: hopefully get it right right, that's what you you know
Speaker 1: with the claims. And I mean, so you think the
Speaker 1: roster at three o'clock on Saturday, how many offensive linemen
Speaker 1: will be on the fifty three man roster? I think eight?
Speaker 1: You think eight? So you think but they better not
Speaker 1: go buy a house, right? Yeah? Yeah? Kadeem Edwards and
Speaker 1: then Cam Fleming. I talked to a team last night
Speaker 1: about Cam Fleming, talked to the alb Minute, I talked
Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. Talk to the Patriots about Fleming,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they have some history with him. They do,
Speaker 1: and they said, you know what we had to do.
Speaker 1: We had to help him, We had to, we had to.
Speaker 1: We protected him. We put a tight end over there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put a tight end over there. You slide a guard
Speaker 1: his way, protecting the forty year old quarterback. He's the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the history of the game, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt. That's interesting because I mean, look, his resume
Speaker 1: is starter right tackle, Super Bowl? Yeah, New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you could say that. You're thinking when you
Speaker 1: when you initially went and got him, you're thinking, man,
Speaker 1: this guy started in an AFC championship game, he started
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Starry gets Philadelphiagles, wasn't terrible. But you
Speaker 1: talk to the Patriots guys and they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: how's how's Cam Fleming doing for you? And I described
Speaker 1: him as the fifty fifty player, which I always have,
Speaker 1: and they go, well, you know, we helped him a lot.
Speaker 1: We had to help him. He's he's like you said,
Speaker 1: he's sometimes he looks really good and other times, you know,
Speaker 1: the technique seems to go away. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: you had to get around that. They go, you help him,
Speaker 1: you put a tight end over there, you slide a
Speaker 1: guard over his way, but you help. Everybody in the
Speaker 1: league felt the same way about him, and that's why
Speaker 1: as a free agent he only got one million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 1: And and you knew what New England thought because they
Speaker 1: didn't try to bring him at right after losing and
Speaker 1: they lost eight soldier too. But that just shows you
Speaker 1: how precarious depth is at that position. It's almost like
Speaker 1: you could have drafted a guy just to play develop.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's Chaz Green three years ago. Right, Is
Speaker 1: he better than Chad's Green? Maybe? See, that's all you're
Speaker 1: that's all you're trying to do as a personnel department now,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to try Yeah had last year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: is he better than Byron Bell? Start for the Packers?
Speaker 1: Byron Bell? After that? Sakie gave up the other day.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know, but that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're you're what your your your goal is
Speaker 1: to try and get a better you know, it's a
Speaker 1: goal this year too. You got to get a better
Speaker 1: Kideem Edwards if he's the eighth guy. You gotta get
Speaker 1: a you're looking at all these positions. Give me whoever
Speaker 1: my last guy is at every position, Give me a
Speaker 1: better guy, Find me a guy. Now, they've had some
Speaker 1: I've had some fortune where they've they've hit the right guys.
Speaker 1: They've also had some terrible missus. You know, with the
Speaker 1: pro personnel stuff. It looks like, you know, Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: looks like a hit. Yeah, but they've had some. They've
Speaker 1: had some. How about all the Nolan Carroll, all those
Speaker 1: guys that you know, Paia, Yeah, those are all missus,
Speaker 1: bad missus. Yeah. Well he got hurt now still he
Speaker 1: was banged up. He had a condition when he signed here.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean he was on the last legs
Speaker 1: of his career, literally last leg. Yeah. But that's that's
Speaker 1: where when this roster is gonna look really strange. We're
Speaker 1: gonna dissect it on Saturday and then we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: But but but be aware, that's not going to be
Speaker 1: the roster, and that is not going to be the roster.
Speaker 1: Beautiful thing. When it comes to looking at that waiver
Speaker 1: wire there, it will definitely be some roster flexibility on
Speaker 1: the bottom. Well, That's why you can keep six offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, though, they need to be aggressive with
Speaker 1: some trades if they can't as well, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: I I'm trying to help this thing right now. Let's
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Speaker 1: might find a guard in exchange. Oh, trading. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: give you my Tommy Johns is a little throw in there.
Speaker 1: Guards bot a little bit. Anyway, as much as I
Speaker 1: need a guard here, I might not trade my Tommy
Speaker 1: john for that. Always the Jimmy Johnson trade with David Shula,
Speaker 1: remember Cincinnati, Yeah, since it like a six pack twelve Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like that. I can't remember who was involved
Speaker 1: in that trade. He wanted to him he wanted a
Speaker 1: twelve pack for some some Heinekens player or something or
Speaker 1: a Hanne Country. Yeah, he was, I'm just gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You can have him. Yeah, I can't remember the players.
Speaker 1: He said, we can't do that. Cincinnati's a tough team
Speaker 1: to trade with. By the way, she thought that Jimmy
Speaker 1: had something up his sleeve that yeah, like he's trying
Speaker 1: to put Of course he did. Jimmy and his Heinekens.
Speaker 1: I always state since the day that yes, yes, Switzer,
Speaker 1: it was a week of the Big Girls game in
Speaker 1: Switzer naughty. I guess he's at ninety four. And he said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, playing Cincinnati, it's kind of like playing I
Speaker 1: always state. Don't get those kind of comments. And this filtered.
Speaker 1: There was a very tense exchange after that game, a
Speaker 1: very firm handshake from you. Ben's into Switzer and said
Speaker 1: unkind things to Switzer about I always state after that
Speaker 1: game then I was stayput Oklahoma last year? Oh no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do it again this year. This was twenty four
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was where I
Speaker 1: always state, was I always that's when I was stay
Speaker 1: was I was? I know what you're talking about. All right.
Speaker 1: You posed a question just before the break that I
Speaker 1: can't remember what was my trades? Maybe no, I was.
Speaker 1: I was just the Tommy John thing threw me off
Speaker 1: of three off. I'm sorry, No, you know you were. No,
Speaker 1: I say there could be trade. No, No, I think
Speaker 1: they no. I think they have to. I think they
Speaker 1: have to entertain that possibility. I don't know. I'm as
Speaker 1: much as I love to play the waiver wire and
Speaker 1: and do things with the roster, I think that you're
Speaker 1: you're better off identifying players two or three players and
Speaker 1: say that and then saying, let's see if we can
Speaker 1: go get this guy. Let's see if we can go
Speaker 1: get you can give people conditional picks for these for
Speaker 1: these players, yeah, you know one of your players exactly.
Speaker 1: It's it's just not like going to you know, Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas is a little bit more of a little bit
Speaker 1: more involved. But if you're trained for other players, people
Speaker 1: will take conditional picks. However, you do have a surplus
Speaker 1: of wide receivers, right, Yes, we think we think you
Speaker 1: can trade from that surplus for maybe a backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking if anybody has one, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: Bill and guys, we have to go a little bit.
Speaker 1: We have to go a little bit stronger with our
Speaker 1: trade proposal to get an offensive lineman. To me, I
Speaker 1: rack up wide receiver. It's less of a premium spot.
Speaker 1: You know, you can go find a backup receiver more
Speaker 1: than an offensive lineman. I mean, I wonder how I'll
Speaker 1: ask you this. I'll just throw this out here. I like,
Speaker 1: Alan hearns myself. Yes, and then we're gonna get in
Speaker 1: trouble doing this. But go ahead now, I mean trading one.
Speaker 1: I mean that'd be like trading in a seventh round
Speaker 1: draft choice. I talked because they know you're gonna cut them, right,
Speaker 1: I talked to Yeah, I'm not telling anything. You already
Speaker 1: don't know. Jacksonville is hunting wide receivers right now. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, why I had Mickey said yesterday that
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt says of Jacksonville has a surplus of offense.
Speaker 1: I had a team, had a team called me and
Speaker 1: asked me about Dez Bryant. You know what I thought
Speaker 1: about Dez Bryant? And I said, well, who else you?
Speaker 1: Who else? You guys bad? And they say, oh, Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is hunting receivers right now. I imagine. So they
Speaker 1: lost Marquis, Yeah, they're looking at your cuts. So whoever
Speaker 1: you put out there? And they lost Alan Robinson and
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns agency. Yeah, And so be prepared if you're
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna put a wide receiver out there,
Speaker 1: and we think the Cowboys are. We think they're gonna
Speaker 1: put a wide receiver out there that potentially that's not
Speaker 1: potentially had a really good had a good summer if
Speaker 1: it's Lance Lenoor, So don't don't expect to get Lance
Speaker 1: Lenore back. If they're a value weight and tape and
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was here, I went and looked at the when
Speaker 1: I was at the stadium, since now agame, I looked
Speaker 1: and watched the teams that were that were in attendance,
Speaker 1: scouting the game. Jacksonville was one of those teams. So
Speaker 1: just I keep you know, if you're gonna put a
Speaker 1: guy out there that had some productivity this summer, you're
Speaker 1: probably not going to get him back. But that's football,
Speaker 1: you know. But hopefully you could take what you need
Speaker 1: and maybe you can move. Maybe you can move lancellanor
Speaker 1: maybe somebody doesn't want to fight for Lancelnor. Maybe Jacksonville
Speaker 1: doesn't want to fight. Maybe they've a value. Yeah maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, you could take one of their you know,
Speaker 1: it means enough to them to get a quality wide receiver.
Speaker 1: For okay, we'll take one of your quality offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's he doesn't turn into Jimmy Smith in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players, one of my favorite players
Speaker 1: I've ever been around, Jimmy Smith as a Jacksonville ninety eight.
Speaker 1: That guy was. I know we had a lot of
Speaker 1: issues with the with the cocaine and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but my gosh, what a great player. So going back
Speaker 1: to the Dez thing, you think teams are thinking, well,
Speaker 1: let's sign him after the first game. We don't have
Speaker 1: to get his base salary, and maybe you could give
Speaker 1: him a better base salary. Than you would have the
Speaker 1: first week. I think Des is holding for the Saints.
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm just I'm throwing it out there.
Speaker 1: I think he's holding. I think he's got one team
Speaker 1: in mind. He talks about getting himself right and all
Speaker 1: that's great, you know. I'm glad for him that he's
Speaker 1: trying to physically feel better, work out, do what he
Speaker 1: needs to. But I think he's holding for Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: I think it's been smart once he got to training
Speaker 1: camp in the preseason game, sure, I think it's been
Speaker 1: smart on his part to wait it out and wait
Speaker 1: for injuries to occur. We just saw Jacksonville now in
Speaker 1: the market. Now, he may not be a fit there
Speaker 1: because of Kauflin, he might not be a Coughlin type player. Sure, whatever,
Speaker 1: But any I think he's smart going through the first
Speaker 1: week of the regular season now because teams would be leary,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the reputation. Teams are asking about
Speaker 1: him because that a team called me last night just
Speaker 1: want to know who gets hurt, yeah, and see who
Speaker 1: has needs and then um and just be ready to go.
Speaker 1: And Cleveland's notice and Cleveland was doing their due deal
Speaker 1: and since they called people here too to ask about him. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So there's you know, there's plenty. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be be aggressive with your trades, target two
Speaker 1: or three guys that you might like. He's saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: if those guys get to the waiver wire, we're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to get to them. And they
Speaker 1: have done this in recent years. They did it with
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler after I think Daz got hurt Week one,
Speaker 1: fifth round pick Tiger, Yeah, target Bryce Butler, Matt Castle
Speaker 1: a quarterback when Romo got hurt? Was that right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian Price a year ago? I think right? Didn't they
Speaker 1: flip a pick Green Bay? So you're right. I mean
Speaker 1: you can kind of control the situation more as opposed to,
Speaker 1: like you said, either or fighting a vest and veteran
Speaker 1: who can go wherever you want. I would spend a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick on an offensive lineman absolutely, who could
Speaker 1: play whoever. Yeah, I mean, let's remember what was the
Speaker 1: what was the monterrack going into the draft. We can't
Speaker 1: have Atlanta happen again. Yeah, well you're setting yourself up
Speaker 1: to have it happen again. No, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1: They're Micky a fifth round pick is and someone if
Speaker 1: you're going to move along from a guy at a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, is you're excited about that, you know
Speaker 1: you're you're excited about getting The problem is not giving
Speaker 1: up the fifth round pick. The problem is finding the
Speaker 1: player player that's worth that team is willing to give up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's what you have to do. You have to
Speaker 1: you have to identify. Okay, if you look at a
Speaker 1: team and you say, this team has got three they
Speaker 1: got two extra guards and an extra tackle, or they
Speaker 1: got one extra guard and an extra tackle. Now you
Speaker 1: got to pry that guy away. But you gotta make
Speaker 1: it worth their while. You know, you can't just say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a conditional seven in two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty that that that's not gonna get it done. Like
Speaker 1: Micky said, You're gonna have to You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: part with a premium pick or part with a premium player.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's a veteran guy that used to be
Speaker 1: a starter that a young guy's taken his spot. Sure
Speaker 1: they might be cutting him and you don't want to
Speaker 1: have to to battle wire that never want to battle
Speaker 1: the waiver wire for really good players. They used to
Speaker 1: use the waiver wire for like depth, to get depth position.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna trade for a guy, you're trying to
Speaker 1: get a potential starter, is what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Because even even an offensive line, because we've seen, we've
Speaker 1: seen what's happened, you know, they we've had injury at
Speaker 1: the offensive line, especially the left tackle. Yeah, and ironically
Speaker 1: he's probably been arguably the healthiest of the bunch other
Speaker 1: than Connor Williams. Yeah, elk Lyle has been okay, but
Speaker 1: Zach usually is in Travis, they haven't missed the game
Speaker 1: their entire career and now you know it's yeah, so
Speaker 1: uh now Tyrant does have the hamstring though, like you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta show it up or at least try to.
Speaker 1: And the safety. You can't ignore a safety, No, I
Speaker 1: mean you You've got two guys that you trust out there,
Speaker 1: I think, and one of them is got the shoulder
Speaker 1: that you don't know and whatever happens if he goes down,
Speaker 1: you have um, Tyree Robinson out there. Cam Kelly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Huff see that, And you asked me about Huff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might that, Mickey, They might very well keep Huff
Speaker 1: on the team just because he's been around the block,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't because again I look at his I
Speaker 1: look at his four years and you have to give up,
Speaker 1: you know, and not that he's making huge amounts of money.
Speaker 1: Seven h five. Yeah, but still it's money, you know.
Speaker 1: I supposed to four eighty for the yeah, rookie free agent,
Speaker 1: but I feel I would feel better playing Robinson then
Speaker 1: I would huff. Just from what I've seen from huff
Speaker 1: our fan pulse on the app right now, I just
Speaker 1: asked the fandom, what's the bigger issue right now? Depth
Speaker 1: offensive line? Safety? Seventy two say safety, but to me,
Speaker 1: it's fifty fifty right now. Joe and Flower Mound wants
Speaker 1: that guy so bad in Seattle, Joe and Flower Mound
Speaker 1: that Joe and our amount will go from go from
Speaker 1: this is a terrible team too. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: super Bowl run if you get that guy in. And
Speaker 1: I think people need to understand when we say depth
Speaker 1: at safety, we're not talking about making that joke. That's
Speaker 1: not what the question is. Trying to get bodies and
Speaker 1: just need some bodies that kind of know their way,
Speaker 1: like where the fifty yard line is. Let's get better
Speaker 1: than bodies Yeah, let's get guys play play. Yeah, give
Speaker 1: me be be a guy that can play. You know, I
Speaker 1: would take I'd love to have a JJ Wilcox right now.
Speaker 1: What I know about JJ Wilcox. I'd love to have
Speaker 1: a JJ Wilcox. And this team you need somebody like that,
Speaker 1: you need anybody. Pick him up after words, J Wilcox,
Speaker 1: Now I thought he had gotten to release him up?
Speaker 1: Where is he in? Got somebody's in Pittsburgh right at
Speaker 1: one time, at one point, at one point Pittsburgh And
Speaker 1: now I lost track of him after that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not out of the league. He's with a team,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he or Jets he's your yet, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. To get a lot of safeties up there
Speaker 1: at the Jets too. Then they dropped back to back
Speaker 1: safety LSU Guy Adams and someone else. Can't you get
Speaker 1: their depth chart by any chance? The Jets? Yes, please,
Speaker 1: I'll pull it up. Yeah, they've got all they drafted
Speaker 1: back to back safeties. Yeah, in a draft just recently,
Speaker 1: I say, Adams from lashues up there, I should first
Speaker 1: round pick six pick in the draft last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he run high school absolutely, but oh line, the argument
Speaker 1: is you've got more positions across that unit to look
Speaker 1: at depth more than as opposed to safety. You need
Speaker 1: a backup center to Joe Looney. Right now they have
Speaker 1: Wilcox as their third string free safety. Yeah, okay, you
Speaker 1: need to make sure that your swing tackle is in order.
Speaker 1: Backup guard. I mean what we talk about, they got
Speaker 1: five six offensive line. Who's the backup center that's said that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's see, that's the bigger That to me is a
Speaker 1: huge question because you had the luxury before of having
Speaker 1: a swing backup center guard that saved you a position
Speaker 1: on the forty six. Right now you don't have have that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you would have to use two, and then you'd
Speaker 1: have to have a So now you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: keep eight offensive lineman if you don't find a guy
Speaker 1: that can do both. See, that's some same Andre Gerard.
Speaker 1: The Marcus Martin thing kills him too. Defense, right, Marcus
Speaker 1: Marcus Martin was your he could have done both. He
Speaker 1: was the backup to Joe Looney. I mean he was
Speaker 1: the guy that played both. Yeah, but it's just Dave.
Speaker 1: That's that's a tough spot. Would you give up one
Speaker 1: of these defensive ends? Would you give up would you
Speaker 1: give up one of these? Would you give up a
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong? I know you just got him. Would you
Speaker 1: give it if it meant getting somebody? No? Too early
Speaker 1: for that one. No, because for a backup center. This
Speaker 1: is where Mickey and I agree, because I feel like
Speaker 1: when you do finally feel like you have a wealth
Speaker 1: in a position. Yeah, I'm not gonna trade you Charles
Speaker 1: Tapper because I don't think any babill to take Charles tappin.
Speaker 1: But that was my next thing was, Okay, who else
Speaker 1: has any trade value that you would be willing to
Speaker 1: part with? And I just, I just there's no reason
Speaker 1: for a team to trade for Tapper because they're going
Speaker 1: to expect your best debt, your bets. Trading pieces are
Speaker 1: likely in the secondary at corner. Those are your best
Speaker 1: trading pieces. Am I wrong? You mentioned you mentioned Brown
Speaker 1: and Lewis? Yes, Okay, let me ask you that I
Speaker 1: mentioned Brown and Lewis yesterday. Are Brown and Lewis better
Speaker 1: than any of the wide receivers as far as trading pieces?
Speaker 1: From what you know about watching this football team depends
Speaker 1: on which wide receivers? Well, I think I do think
Speaker 1: a team could look at Jordan Lewis and say, this
Speaker 1: guy could have been a second round pick last year.
Speaker 1: He's playing maybe out of scheme here, Sure he's maybe
Speaker 1: he's just not a good fit for them, but he
Speaker 1: might be for us. Nicky doesn't want to give him up,
Speaker 1: but I but yeah, I love him as a player.
Speaker 1: So him or Brown pick one. No, I'm not giving
Speaker 1: up either one of them. I can't do it because
Speaker 1: the minute I do it, I'm gonna get it injury.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know what you're doing. What are
Speaker 1: you doing if I playing Nickel, who's your backup center? Well,
Speaker 1: I understand that I can't staying if you if you
Speaker 1: told me right now, I'm from a cornerback pool, see
Speaker 1: then that and then we're probably host. We're probably host
Speaker 1: because we're getting yah. See that's I don't like that attitude.
Speaker 1: And and I'm not I'm not busting on you, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I'm just not taking from the cornerback
Speaker 1: inventory because what if a Woozier or Byron Jones gets hurt, Well,
Speaker 1: that's I'm giving you. You're gonna give me one. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to give me one. You have to give
Speaker 1: me Lewis or Brown No, No, I'm That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up either one of them because I
Speaker 1: need them both. Yep. I need them more right now
Speaker 1: than I need a or down the road than the
Speaker 1: center guy gets hurt, Brown or or Lewis have to
Speaker 1: unless you get unless you have another option on the roster.
Speaker 1: Who's my who's my Nickel? One of these? Because I
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything unless you like Thomas Ward. No, you're
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna probably keep one of those guys. You're
Speaker 1: probably gonna keep a Ward. I guess, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: the fall off from Lewis to Ward. Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: fall off from Lewis to Brown? What's the fall from Brown?
Speaker 1: But one of them has to start, is what I'm saying. Right,
Speaker 1: And you need three. You gotta have three starters essentially,
Speaker 1: and you and the other one play back up for
Speaker 1: three positions. Did they play Xavier Woods at Nickel last year?
Speaker 1: Nickel Corner? They did in the slot went and when
Speaker 1: he's healthy week two? Right there, let's see you. It's
Speaker 1: I'm just reporting what the owner said. I didn't say.
Speaker 1: Well back sounded very dooming gloom right now about the
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods playing well here on the back on the cornerback,
Speaker 1: all right. The reason that that fourth cornerback has more
Speaker 1: value than the backup center, and my opinion is because
Speaker 1: he's backing up three positions. Okay, you got three chances
Speaker 1: for injury, right, sure, you got one chance for injury
Speaker 1: at center or whatever. Play the odds. Now you can
Speaker 1: come back at me and say you got three chances
Speaker 1: for injury and that offensive line, because there are two
Speaker 1: guards you're starting, you gotta find the guy that could
Speaker 1: do both. You're starting a center that has never played
Speaker 1: sixteen games. A bird in hand right here. Then, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna give up because I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: getting over. To answer your question, the backup to the
Speaker 1: center right now is probably Zach Martin, who's coming off
Speaker 1: his own injury, and you'd like to keep him at
Speaker 1: right guard. So, yes, Brian, there's an issue. There's a
Speaker 1: depth issue there, there's an emergency backup. There's an emergency
Speaker 1: break about to happen. We need to take a break,
Speaker 1: right okay, And whatever Brian has on his mind right now,
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Speaker 1: watching us. But Hill behind the curtain stuff Bill Bill
Speaker 1: has got to I bet you Bill has got a
Speaker 1: really big brush, and I bet you Bill has got
Speaker 1: a bag of a bag of cosmetics. There's this brush
Speaker 1: and there and there's this. Okay, this is his base
Speaker 1: you have to have as I totally agree, Mickey. I
Speaker 1: gotta see. Okay, what it's called brand? No, it's not
Speaker 1: other guesses max Factor, No, not max Factor, kender Scott,
Speaker 1: I don't know better than that. The girl, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's it. It's cuzy, breezy, beautiful bit right here. I
Speaker 1: just bought a new one, did you there it is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got a the season right, put it on like
Speaker 1: that shine right that you? Fortunately, I have usual, especially
Speaker 1: in the summer time. I've got a good tan going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't outside. Yeah, I found this stuff that
Speaker 1: was It was called anti shine and that's all it was.
Speaker 1: And it kind of kept your your forehead that's your
Speaker 1: personal greasy. Yeah, anti shine. How about we go to
Speaker 1: Peyton and Minnesota. Come on help us out Peyton, Peyton, Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: don't kill me too much over this question. Um, so
Speaker 1: I actually went to the University of Saint Helens where
Speaker 1: John Snider went and Minneapolis questions. Yea, Minneapolis. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: my question is, um, would you trade, like I know
Speaker 1: you guys are sick, Earl Thomas Chocolate, would you trade
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton and a third round take for old Thomas
Speaker 1: which would allow Xavier Woods to be your fourth corner
Speaker 1: and backup safety, and then trade Anthony Brown for a
Speaker 1: backup center. Thanks. I'll tell you what, imagining that would
Speaker 1: be pretty impressive if you could pull that off. But
Speaker 1: you know what, Hey, I'm I'm I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of out of the box thinking. I really am. It
Speaker 1: would be tough. I think the wow it's I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys were just arguing, not arguing. These guys were
Speaker 1: discussing not giving up on rookie guy. I mean like
Speaker 1: the Jordan Lewis is. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to
Speaker 1: see you don't want to give up on Taco yet.
Speaker 1: But but if it got you Earl Thomas, he said,
Speaker 1: a third round, I'm not giving up, okay with the
Speaker 1: third two? Yeah, you just you just would like to
Speaker 1: give up the third right, I would just give him
Speaker 1: keep the third, keep the third. Now, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Minnesota part of the trade, right or did he
Speaker 1: he's from Minnesota. What you're giving up with Taco, you're
Speaker 1: giving up who's playing first round, your first round pick
Speaker 1: from last year, who has four years of eligibility left
Speaker 1: under your se That's why I mean again, it's out
Speaker 1: of the box. He qualified that. I appreciate that. It
Speaker 1: was thinking though it was going into his fourth year
Speaker 1: or going into his third year. Yeah, if Taco was,
Speaker 1: if Tacco was Charles Tapper is am I right about it?
Speaker 1: Where he is in the league, where in the league.
Speaker 1: But what they have to do is protect themselves because
Speaker 1: then you got to play. What if what if rand
Speaker 1: David Irving? What if there's no Randy he felt great
Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory, I would be okay, Yeah, yeah, Taco.
Speaker 1: If Taco was a second round pick and you only
Speaker 1: had control of three more ye more years instead of
Speaker 1: four more years, right then that's something to think. See.
Speaker 1: But he's but he's trying to do it with a
Speaker 1: player I understand. But no, no, no, I'm not no,
Speaker 1: I'm not explained to you. I'm just yeah, he's trying
Speaker 1: to get he's trying to get a big time player
Speaker 1: for a player that you feel like is developing. I'll
Speaker 1: use that word developing for you to have great value
Speaker 1: to Seattle. And then you turn around and get Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown for the center, right, But then that takes you,
Speaker 1: guys out of those right back to my problem with
Speaker 1: doing that in the first place. You guys do not
Speaker 1: want to give up the corner. Well he's banking, he
Speaker 1: would say, Xavier Woods back to where he was nickel corner.
Speaker 1: And then who's your fourth corner? And then Mickey's depth
Speaker 1: is hurting again at the corner, so well, no, he's
Speaker 1: got Xavier Woods playing the corner. Well behind that, though,
Speaker 1: then then what do you have you're back to? And see,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is you gotta gotta give up a
Speaker 1: little depth somewhere to add where you're really hurting somewhere else.
Speaker 1: The argument, what position leaves you most vulnerable? Of all
Speaker 1: the things they need? What position leaves you most vulnerable?
Speaker 1: Because it's not free safety. I think it's the offensive
Speaker 1: line right now, I really, I really do, because as
Speaker 1: I said again, it's three different spots you could look
Speaker 1: at and say, something happens here, what do you do well?
Speaker 1: The thing. Whoa whoa wait, whoa whoa? What just happened?
Speaker 1: You sit offensive line and I'm trying to trade a
Speaker 1: guy to get an offensive lineman. But you don't want
Speaker 1: to do But I don't want to give up where
Speaker 1: I have some but security. But here's what we need.
Speaker 1: We need to know what player would trade. Can I
Speaker 1: trade the third for the offensive lineman? Yeah? Because very
Speaker 1: safety doesn't make me vulnerable. Yeah, you better be able
Speaker 1: to identify who that offensive lineman is. He's got to
Speaker 1: be almost starting quality center to the center and Joe
Speaker 1: Looney can go back to his his whole job. Well
Speaker 1: if he could be, if he could be, he could
Speaker 1: joey out. Yes, if it's a situation where you've got
Speaker 1: a wrong Leary type talent as your backup, I'm good
Speaker 1: with that. I'd flip them. What's what's he doing these days?
Speaker 1: Ron lo He is pretty entrenched there, he's starting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what hear what you're saying, Brian, I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Gosh, you guys, I mean you gotta
Speaker 1: give up something. See, But yeah, I was I was
Speaker 1: with you guys on what was going on here about
Speaker 1: the corners? You guys made really good points about the corners.
Speaker 1: We'll get trade a draft he drade a player. Would
Speaker 1: you rather trade a draft toys for Earl Thomas or
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman? Oh god, it sounds like you
Speaker 1: would rather trade it for an offensive mine. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think you're desperate for depth at offensive line, but that's
Speaker 1: a different you're talking. You're talking about a dynamic All
Speaker 1: Pro player, talking about a starting offensive lineman. Because all right,
Speaker 1: how about somebody's sixth guy? Although do they have a
Speaker 1: better feel for where Frederick is than the rest of
Speaker 1: us do? I am playing this right now as we speak.
Speaker 1: If he's not kind on a Tuesday morning as he's
Speaker 1: not going to play this year, okay, And I'm trying
Speaker 1: to protect myself in case something goes awry with Joe Looney.
Speaker 1: If you do I r Travis at the start of
Speaker 1: the season after cuts, then that's eight weeks minimum, right, right,
Speaker 1: so that's at least half then even in that regard, Yeah,
Speaker 1: offensive line, you're more worried. I'll let me ask you this, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta you more worried about backup to Travis to
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith or the backup to Travis Frederick both Okay? Now,
Speaker 1: giving up my fifth. No, No, which one do you
Speaker 1: worry about the most? Tyrn Smith or Travis Frederick? At
Speaker 1: least backup right now? For body I could put there,
Speaker 1: I have no nobody can play center right, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no center at least like you said, Cam Fleming. Put
Speaker 1: him out there, give him some help. You can at
Speaker 1: least do that or something. Jack Rabbit, Yeah, Jack Rabbit.
Speaker 1: Bill's gonna be announce him as a starter, and so
Speaker 1: Brad on Thursday night he will be. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: question you will. There's no question playing Joe right Thursday.
Speaker 1: Oh can't. Good luck Cooper. He's not only he's not
Speaker 1: only the starter. I'm handing the ball off every snap.
Speaker 1: I don't care starter and the finish we're gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball fifty five times a skame. Can they come
Speaker 1: up with a reason just they can't make it there?
Speaker 1: You can't play the game. They got to sign No, no,
Speaker 1: don't go there. Don't They have to sign a center
Speaker 1: right now to get through the game. Thursday. Probably his
Speaker 1: Stanton went down. Yeah, we ever get an up? They
Speaker 1: no one even asked about poor Stanton. He looked bad.
Speaker 1: It looked awfully bad. He can't play Thursday, and so
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out that Jason Garrett's press conference coming
Speaker 1: up in a matter of moments, and you're gonna ask
Speaker 1: that question. Signing a center, Yes, some center off from
Speaker 1: Copelle High School. Yeah, Joe Looney banged his hand trying
Speaker 1: to make a tackle at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: He kind of need his hands, Nate said. Nate said yesterday,
Speaker 1: it's like, Joe, don't be tackling people. It's his first
Speaker 1: tackle since high school. Yeah, he said his forms a
Speaker 1: little off. So yeah, I wouldn't play him on Thursday.
Speaker 1: All right, So we're more worried about this. We're worried
Speaker 1: about We're not worried about the backup to Tyrants. Oh
Speaker 1: yes we are. But but I have to have a body,
Speaker 1: just a body, body exactly. We're gonna trade fine then
Speaker 1: and then we'll help out Cam Fleming. I'm telling you, you
Speaker 1: you could trade a player for that lineman, and we
Speaker 1: could trade a pick for the safety. Okay, I think, okay,
Speaker 1: but you guys don't want to go with me on
Speaker 1: these players I'm trying to I was okay with one
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers, good with trading one of those corners.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about a starting interior lineman, you're not
Speaker 1: giving him a starting corner, are you? No? Possibly? Well,
Speaker 1: if you can see, yeah, I guess you. I mean
Speaker 1: it's your Nickels starter. Yeah, I want to the two.
Speaker 1: If you guys call me up, I am gonna hold
Speaker 1: you up. I am call you up for what for
Speaker 1: a player? You want my starting guard or my starting
Speaker 1: center or my my my, you want my sixth guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you up from one of those players
Speaker 1: I need. I'm not gonna let you just gonna go. Well,
Speaker 1: here have have Charles Tapper. I don't disagree with you
Speaker 1: because I said at the start of the show, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can necessarily flip a backup receiver on
Speaker 1: this roster for a starting caliber offensive lineman. You're talking
Speaker 1: about a premium position versus one that's not draft choice.
Speaker 1: How many how many compensed story picks you think they'll
Speaker 1: get next year? Who do they lose? Who do they lose?
Speaker 1: Who is everybody? Hitchens is gonna get you the best pick?
Speaker 1: Hitchens could probably get you a fourth. And I'm still
Speaker 1: not buying that Bryce Butler starting for the Cardinal. You
Speaker 1: might you might get two next year you might get
Speaker 1: a four and a seven. Yeah, maybe not like you
Speaker 1: did last this past Yeah, you lose as much this pass,
Speaker 1: ain't losing. Who else? You lost some guys to the
Speaker 1: Raiders Keith Smith, but then he signed Old Wally. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's why that's a washwah. I think the best you're
Speaker 1: going to get out of this thing is a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, maybe a fifth. It might be a fifth.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think, how much ammunition do you
Speaker 1: have next spring? If I knew I was gonna have
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, I'll give you a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick for an offensive lineman. We all, we all agree
Speaker 1: to that, Yes with you there? Yes? All right, yeah,
Speaker 1: cut the deal. Here's the deal. Next time we reconvene,
Speaker 1: it will be the regular season. As a group, right,
Speaker 1: as a group, we think now we think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a combined show on Friday of something and possibly
Speaker 1: tomorrow too. Oh and possibly Wednesday. We got tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: have a luncheon tomorrow, the lunch. The most significant days
Speaker 1: of the preseason are straight ahead Labor Day, three o'clock
Speaker 1: Central time on Saturday. Enjoy the rest of you. Hey,
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