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Speaker 1: But a lot to get to. First things first, Jarvis

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Speaker 1: mean he's an athletic guys, young guys running around making plays,

430
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Speaker 1: um and playing fast. Obviously, as a rookie in the NFL,

431
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 1: everything's new to you. You You don't have the experience, but

432
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,400
Speaker 1: he's jumped in both feet. Um, playing fast, communicating, doing

433
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,920
Speaker 1: his best to get on job, and if he makes

434
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,080
Speaker 1: a mistake, he's running fast and covered up for it.

435
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember as a rookie going into that those

436
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 1: situations or even as a second year guy two teams

437
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 1: kind of trying to pick on you, or how did

438
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,199
Speaker 1: they try to exploit those those mismatches they think they

439
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 1: have either. Yeah, I don't really remember anybody trying to

440
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,040
Speaker 1: do anything specific towards me, and I don't think so

441
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 1: far anybody's really trying to exploit mac Um. I mean,

442
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 1: especially in this defense, when you do do your one eleven,

443
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: you do your job. You've got guys helping each other,

444
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 1: who playing off. You're just gonna do your job, and

445
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 1: he's been doing that and Um making plays. If they

446
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: try to come at him, act a lot of ball skills,

447
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,880
Speaker 1: so it'll probably make some place. I mean, the last

448
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you guys have been without a lot

449
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 1: of starters. I mean, had you even seen that many

450
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 1: guys injured at once going into a game, And what

451
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 1: have you thought of the response from from the guys

452
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 1: so far? Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen that

453
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 1: many guys on a team I've been playing for being injured, UM,

454
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: but it's the next man up mentality. That's what the

455
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: NFL is and professional people. As I said earlier, we

456
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of depth, of veteran depth on this team.

457
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: People come in, they don't miss a beat, that communicated

458
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 1: extremely well, and we're able to when you communicate well

459
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: as a defense, you're able to play a lot better. UM,

460
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 1: And we've been doing that and that's been a big

461
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: key to the success with everybody who's been down. Since

462
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Speaker 1: you've been here, how much have you seen that depth

463
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: on this roster improved to where you guys can lose

464
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: some guys and still play as well as you have

465
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, that's definitely the most depth we've ever had.

466
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, veteran depth. You we've had

467
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: a lot of depth because you have the same amount

468
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: of people, but it's have been rookies and young guys.

469
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 1: And there's the guys on this team who are veterans

470
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: who don't start every single game or are it's only

471
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 1: specific packages who have played a lot of NFL experience

472
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: who have a lot to bring to the game, a

473
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: lot of skills, Um, and they've been doing a great job.

474
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: It's the best I've ever been around since I've been here.

475
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: What do you know about Jermaine White had when he

476
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: joined this team? And then how surprised have you been

477
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 1: with the role he's been able to have on this

478
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: year's team. Yeah, I knew he was a very good

479
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: special teams player in Green Bay, UM, but then coming

480
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 1: through O T A S and training camp, you could

481
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 1: just see he's a special player no matter what aspect

482
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 1: of the game he's playing. And UM, and I think

483
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: you guys have been able to see that last couple

484
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 1: of weeks. He's made a lot of big place for

485
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: our defense, getting some turnovers and takeaways, being around the ball,

486
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: making a lot of tackles. And the biggest aspect that

487
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: he's communicating extremely well, um back and forth with me especially,

488
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: and that gets the whole defense on the same page.

489
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: You guys had one turn over the first two games,

490
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: then sixties last two And was there a different emphasis

491
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: or was it something that you knew would eventually come

492
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: and help and help you guys out. Yeah, No, there

493
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: wasn't any different emphasis as something like turnovers coming a

494
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: bunch of sacks, coming bunches. You just do our job.

495
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: Will be around the ball. We got enough playmakers and

496
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: make plays, and you just gotta be able to put

497
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: the team. And obviously the first week, when you're down

498
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of points, it's hard to get turnovers um.

499
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 1: But since then you put the other teams in in

500
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: a position where they gotta try to win a game,

501
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: they gotta try to score it. You can take advantage

502
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, and we got the players

503
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: and the athletes to make it happen. What have you

504
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: learned about the four Niners over these last couple of days.

505
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: They are a dangerous offense. I've got a lot of

506
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: weapons all over the field and they're extremely well run

507
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: on of Kyle Shanahan. They know what they're doing. So

508
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: we really gotta lock in and do our jobs this

509
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: week because they're gonna try to take advantage of situations.

510
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: For you going West Coast, what do you do to

511
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: keep yourself fresh and keep yourself ready for a game? Uh?

512
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: Nothing much. Disrest, time to hang out and relax, don't

513
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: do anything special. Have you liked this new schedule with

514
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: the way you guys have been all over the map

515
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: with on day games, night games all over the place. Yeah,

516
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: it's been It's exciting to play at night, but then

517
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 1: when you have to get home at three four in

518
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: the morning, gets a little tiring the next week. So

519
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: you gotta really learn how to manage your body and

520
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: play a smart and be different than what we've been

521
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: in the past. Is in the past. Obviously it's been

522
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: a lot of one o'clock games and no real night games.

523
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Speaker 1: Um uh so when we go on Monday night game,

524
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: you got a short week, you're getting home late. You

525
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: you really got to catch up our sleep, focus on

526
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: your body, and put extra emphasis on that stuff because

527
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: as a quick turnaround, and then just how much would

528
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: a win mean in this game? Kind of riding the

529
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: good feelings that you've had this week to kind of

530
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Speaker 1: build off what you guys did last week. Yeah, I

531
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: think you said, we just need to keep building off

532
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: of our wins, and good teams, teams that want to

533
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: make the playoffs are able to do that. They start

534
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: stacking wins, they go on runs, and they're able to

535
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: get on the top of their division and make it

536
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. So if we want to be a

537
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: good team, that's what we gotta do. And this is

538
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: the next step. We appreciate Joe's time and and Gribbs,

539
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: here's a guy in Showbert that just continues to make

540
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: plays a lot is going to be asked of him

541
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: again coming up here Monday night against a very good

542
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: forty niner office. The thing I was most interested by

543
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: it in that interview was that he talked about just

544
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Speaker 1: how different his role is in this year's defense compared

545
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: to last year, which you wouldn't notice from the naked eye,

546
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: but because he's still producing a ton of tackles and

547
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: making plays. I think he's getting his hand on on

548
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: more balls than we've seen before. And he's really been

549
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: act of in that regard. Fifth in the NFL and tackles.

550
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Right now, he's having a really good season and no

551
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: one has had to adapt and change more than Joe

552
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: Schoberd has of the last four years. Remember when he

553
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: started here, he was an outside linebacker, and then Greg

554
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: Williams saw what maybe should have been seeing in him

555
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: earlier and that this guy can be an inside linebacker,

556
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: and really, uh started to thrive under Greg Williams. And

557
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: then there was that wonder. You know, with this being

558
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: last year in the contract, you're like all right, let's

559
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: see what he can do in a different defense. And

560
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: so far, I mean he's up there with maybe not

561
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: the m v P of this defense. I think that's

562
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett every year because of what he does with

563
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: everything uh and all the havoc he causes. But he's

564
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: been one of the most important players on this defense

565
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: and one of the toughest. I would think, considering your

566
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: depth situation, would be one of the toughest to replace.

567
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: Quietly too, because you know, when you think about the

568
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: Browns defense, you think about a lot of other names

569
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: before you think about Joe Schobert. And that's not a

570
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: knock on him, but it's just the fact that he's

571
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: not his boisters. But he's always there to do his job.

572
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's especially this season, he's found himself

573
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. I mean,

574
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: he was there for the fumble recovery against the Rams.

575
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: He's been there to make countless key tackles in important situations,

576
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: and he's been the quarterback of the defense. Him and

577
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: Jermaine white Head, especially the last couple of weeks, I've

578
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: really helped lead this defense give them the right spots

579
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: against some talented offenses, and you're seeing the product in

580
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: the field well, and he will have his hands full.

581
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Speaker 1: You mentioned keeping your eyes where they're supposed to be.

582
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: You have a young rookie and mack Wilson who's played very,

583
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: very well for you, But he's still a rookie and

584
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: still trying to find his way through the NFL here

585
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: in year one, and I don't think Shanahan won't try

586
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that at some point. I think

587
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: this this though, plays into the mac Wilson's strengths, though

588
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: pass coverage is more of a of a strength for him.

589
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: In term we're talking about the Kittle matchup. I mean,

590
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: his his issue was maybe going to be against the run.

591
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: Was he gonna be tough enough, strong enough against the run.

592
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: But we saw all the plays he made in training

593
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: camp preseason. This guy's not afraid to get get out

594
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: in space. And I like this opportunity for mack Wilson,

595
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: and I think he should be excited about it because

596
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: he's on up against one of the best. All Right,

597
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: that being said, let's move on. It's our keys to

598
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: a victory on Monday Night football. Can the Browns go

599
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: to two and oh on Monday Night will start on

600
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Shook big keys for

601
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: the Browns offense. It's gonna sound like a broken record,

602
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to again and try to establish

603
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: the run, and in part because they're gonna have to

604
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: soften up that defense and make sure that they don't

605
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: get into a situation where they can pin their ears back.

606
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: Because they have so much talent upfront, especially on their

607
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: defensive line, they're gonna be expected to get some pressure

608
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: on Baker Mayfield. But what we saw early and often

609
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: last week was a reliance and a heavy dosage of

610
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: runs on to Nick Chubb and also mixing in a

611
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: little bit of Dnrelle Hilliard, which kept the Ravens defense,

612
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more honest than allowed Baker

613
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: Mayfield some time to throw, which as the game progressed,

614
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: he became more and more comfortable, and you saw less

615
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe a double clutching or a pumper

616
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: or frantically looking in the pocket, and more of being

617
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: comfortable and taking his time and finding the open guy.

618
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be key, especially on the road, and

619
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Speaker 1: especially after flying across the country and playing on Monday night.

620
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: You have to wait all day again for another game. Uh.

621
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: That's gonna be extremely important, is getting both of them

622
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: into a rhythm early. If there's been one knock on

623
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: the defense so far this season, it's been how they've

624
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: performed in the red zone. It just seemed it's almost

625
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: seemed a little bit too automatic once these teams get

626
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: inside the twenty against them. The Ravens did it a

627
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: couple of times against them last Sunday. The Rams obviously

628
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: had some success the previous week. And it's not just

629
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: that they're giving up these touchdowns. It's just it seems

630
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: like it's breakdowns or guys are just getting really open.

631
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that really needs to be

632
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: cleaned up and and something in a game when you're

633
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: going up against a pretty good defense, every point matters.

634
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: So if you can maybe my key would be limiting

635
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: if is getting in the red zone against you make

636
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Robbie Gould to come on the field and make field goals.

637
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: That's something that has not happened enough for this defense.

638
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: I think would be the first thing that Steve Wolkes

639
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: have mentioned on getting h fixed and shored up. And

640
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I just think that's the one area where this defense

641
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: is looked vulnerable that they've been really good at They've

642
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: they've produced a ton of three and outs. Uh, They've

643
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Speaker 1: got Baltimore off the field great in the fourth quarter,

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00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: really shut that game down completely. Uh. But you just

645
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: need to be better in the red zone and forced

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Speaker 1: some more field goals. Gribbs, what other keys do you

647
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: see important for Monday Night football and Browns win well?

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00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I think again the easy answers. The quarterbacks gotta play

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00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: well again. If Baker Mayfield plays as well as he

650
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: did the previous week, you're gonna win the game. I

651
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: think that when he plays at that level and is

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00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: executing the offense and basically just taking what the defense

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00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: gives him with his full arsenal of weapons minus scream hunts,

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: who's gonna be back in now four weeks? Uh, this

655
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: is an offense that should be able to move down

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00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: the field. I don't care what the defense is. If

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Speaker 1: he's playing the way he played against the Ravens, you're

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00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: gonna win more games than you lose. And this is

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00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: a game you should win if he's playing at that level.

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Speaker 1: Shook final thoughts from you. I mean, as much as

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00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: I say the Brown's gonna establish a run, the defense

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00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: has to stop the run. And it sounds again like

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: a broken record because it's been a goal for weeks

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Speaker 1: for this team and they did a decent job of

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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: it last week. Statistically maybe not so much, but if

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00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: you watch the game, you realize that a lot of

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00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: those runs they bottled up forced the Ravens into some

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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: things they didn't want to do, even if the numbers

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Speaker 1: at the end didn't prove as much. So that's what

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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: you have to do again, because this is another offense

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Speaker 1: that's really built out of the play action, and if

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00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: you can take away the threat of the run and

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00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: force them to throw the ball downfield and get out

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00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: of their flow and their rhythm, then you can start

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00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: forcing some turnovers. And so far they've proven that they

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00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: will turn the ball over if you get those get

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00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: them in those situations. So I think that's gonna be

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00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: the biggest key, is getting them out of the run

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00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: and getting them in uncomfortable situations where you can feast

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Speaker 1: and then turn that into points. How good did it

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00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: feel when the Brons finally turned to turnover? I mean,

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: that was that's the long waited missing for this team,

683
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: and that essentially I wouldn't say put the game away,

684
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: but it just gave you that comfort that you finally

685
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: needed that you could turn and turnover into some momentum

686
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: fruit team. There were two possessions in that game where

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00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: he and I looked at each other in the press

688
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: box and we're like, oh, like okay. There was the

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00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: first scoring drive, which was a methodical drive that overcame

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Speaker 1: a first and twenty five and by the time they

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00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: got in the end zone, felt like, wow, they just

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00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: asserted their will on them on a long drive down

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Speaker 1: the field. And then the other one was after Jermaine

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: white Head forced to fumble and they turned that into

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown because that's something that they weren't doing earlier

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Speaker 1: in this season. It's something that Passed Brown's teams have

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00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: failed to do. And that's what winning football teams do.

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00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: They turn turnovers into touchdowns. And they're gonna need to

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00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: do that again because they're gonna be in a hostile

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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: environment on a prime time stage once again. Have to

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00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: get off to a good start for San Francisco to

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00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: play catch up and take them out of their rhythm

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00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: and take them out of their rhythm early. I'm not

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Speaker 1: concerned about the crowd. I'm not sure what kind of

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00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: crowd there is, or there is a home field advantage,

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00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: it varies. I like when when the Browns go to

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00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: places they don't go very often, it's always a good

708
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: turn out by Browns fans. And I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of California, San Francisco. I know some people who

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00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: are in l A who are flying up for this game.

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Speaker 1: So there's the just I mean more multiple groups of

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Speaker 1: people just that I don't even know that many people there,

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm telling we. We also might be

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00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: walking into fans have not had something to be excited

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00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: about for a wildness and they they they are a

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00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: fan base that didn't show up for these last couple

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00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: of years, but they might be showing out in droves

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Speaker 1: for this game. It's gonna be a fun one. We

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Speaker 1: look forward to recapping it on Tuesday or Wednesday, depending

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Speaker 1: on what time we get back and how much sleep

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Speaker 1: we've had. Little Yeah, none, grinned Barrett. I think will

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Speaker 1: be the name of the game on Tuesday. You can

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Speaker 1: just take it, turn the plane back and make everyone

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Speaker 1: upset that is trying to sleep. I'm totally fine can

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00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: do that, you know, I'm fine with that. We take

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Speaker 1: a row and the people in front of us trying

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Speaker 1: to sleep in the people behind you hear just like

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Speaker 1: the constant whir of the jet engine in the background. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That that is a good podcast right there. We've done

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Speaker 1: it on a bus. Why not try to do it

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Speaker 1: on a plane as well? Exactly? All right, make sure

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Speaker 1: next week. As we wrap wrap up Game number five

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Speaker 1: between Browns and the forty niners. For Andrew Gripple for

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