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Speaker 1: it was John Middlecoff. His podcast is three and out.

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Speaker 1: He is everywhere during the football season, and my Blazing

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Speaker 1: five is on a freaking heater four and oh today,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get a break in September, I'm getting every break.

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Speaker 1: When Shador Sanders came in, I was like, wait, Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Leeds sixteen to ten. I've got the Browns plus eight

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Speaker 1: and a half, just no pick sixes. And he actually

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Speaker 1: had a nice like final dry little spin move throwing

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Speaker 1: the ends on. You know, okay, I was It was

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Speaker 1: really entertaining. So let's start Denver twenty two Kansas City nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So the Broncos are now nine and two. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are a five hundred team. They're a hell of a

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Speaker 1: five hundred team. Kansas City's a good team. Bo Nicks

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Speaker 1: twenty four to thirty seven, two ninety five. Again no

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Speaker 1: big mistakes. What's interesting against Spags in that defense, John,

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Speaker 1: certainly on enough drives to get field goals that they

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Speaker 1: you watched Sam Darnold unravel and you watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. Today there was some ugly quarterback play. This

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Speaker 1: is where bo Nix is really good. He doesn't take sacks,

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Speaker 1: he can move the chains with his legs. He's really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that final drive was huge, right, he

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Speaker 2: move more often, I think sometimes same. They've really tried

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Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton's funny. I think he's the best

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Speaker 2: there was so much momentum, and you went, this Vance

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Speaker 2: That blitz that he called did sack Patrick Mahomes, I

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks was saying, coach, you're getting me the plays

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Speaker 1: That's what we saw with Kayleb Williams in the first

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Speaker 1: three weeks. His operational stuff was a mess. Now he's

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Speaker 1: still not pretty, but that's not the problem. He may struggle,

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Speaker 1: but the operational stuff. I do think with bow Nicks,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think I don't think Kansas City's a bad team.

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Speaker 1: I just think the margins get really skinny when you

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Speaker 2: Where are you drafting every round? You know, twenty nine, thirty,

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Speaker 2: We're talking the third and the fourth round. So your margin, Ferrera,

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Speaker 2: They put themselves into a hole. You start zero and two,

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Speaker 2: need bo Nicks to play like today, no turnovers. We

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Speaker 1: Don't forget Denver at home in January, it will be snowing,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Sean McVay could have slept all week.

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Speaker 2: the playoff game either, because I'm with you, I feel

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Speaker 2: like they're throwing them off, which then speeds them up,

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Speaker 2: which gets them all out of rhythm. Because now the

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Speaker 2: three games in which he's had of those twenty one wins,

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Speaker 2: he has been an MVP caliber player. Yet if you

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Speaker 2: take the Lions game and these last two Rams game,

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Speaker 2: he looks like a rattle player. So it's it's like clearly,

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Speaker 2: and some of those wins are against really good teams,

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Speaker 2: so it's not like he's just beating up on you know,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky's of the world, right, He's doing it against real competition.

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Speaker 2: So whatever Shula has put out there now and Aaron Glenn,

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if more people are gonna attempt to

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Speaker 2: just copycat that. Yes, but it's just it's weird because

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Speaker 2: I was all in the way he was playing that

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Speaker 2: I watched today. I'm like, clearly, you can do something

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Speaker 2: to throw him off, and you know he's It's one

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Speaker 2: thing if you just you know, you have bad footwork

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Speaker 2: multiple dbs in their numbers. That to me is a really,

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Speaker 2: really alarming sign. And I thought he had gotten past

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Speaker 2: it the way he was playing this year. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: whatever that confidence is, and then you see a moment

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Speaker 2: me some pause because there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 2: pressure on this guy in the playoffs again, right and

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Speaker 2: down the stretch. He still got some big games left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said this about Caleb Williams and Bone Nicks.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Viking seventeen Santo's with the walk off. I did

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Speaker 1: think Chicago. First of all, Chicago was better on third down,

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Speaker 1: much better. They dominated time of possession. Caleb had no picks.

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Speaker 2: I thought Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought Chicago was the better team. This

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Speaker 1: I thought Chicago was the better team. Now, JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: had a couple of drops by Jordan Addison, one early

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Speaker 1: one late, So it's not all on JJ McCarthy. So

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Speaker 1: let's just look at the Bears though. So last year

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Speaker 1: they couldn't win games like this, and this is sort

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Speaker 1: of the magic of Ben Johnson and Caleb. It's not pretty.

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Speaker 1: They have a win against the Raiders due to a

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Speaker 1: block field goal. They beat Washington when Jaden Daniels fumbled

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Speaker 1: late in the game. Remember nobody touches to be just fumbled.

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Speaker 1: They had a fifty eight yard TD against the Bengals

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Speaker 1: after a near collapse. They trailed double digits in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the Giants and one and a game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal as time expires. Today against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Now you could say it's just luck, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think Caleb Williams legs aren't luck he again today he

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Speaker 1: made two or three. I mean, listen, it's it's a cliche.

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Speaker 1: Nobody doubts how dynamic he is. Guy's a freakin' He's

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Speaker 1: a cleanup hitter. I mean, just the legs, the power.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple throws today. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 1: when he unleashes it, man, it.

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Speaker 2: Is I wasn't one to DJ Moore. Did DJ drop?

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Speaker 2: I think it got on DJ so fast that you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he was trying to catch it, but it

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Speaker 2: hit his chest play before his hands could even get there.

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Speaker 2: That had to be a one hundred and ten mile on

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Speaker 2: hour fastball. That had to be the hart Is ball today, throat,

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Speaker 2: I think in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But I think we have to be honest about this.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy had one really good drive at the end

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Speaker 1: and he deserves credit for it. But John, this is

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Speaker 1: not a highlight league. This is not the NBA. It

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Speaker 1: is about sustained drives. It is about putting your team

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Speaker 1: in situations to win. I got to tell you, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but when you have Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: good protection, decent run game, justin Jefferson, Jordan Adison didn't

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Speaker 1: he had drops. I don't see it with JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to do confirmation bias. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: had many starts. His arm is good enough. It's not

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Speaker 1: an arm thing. He has a decent arm, but he

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Speaker 1: looks nervous. He's a player that plays I think with

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Speaker 1: confidence and when he loses it after a second pick.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of really bad drives. So he's

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Speaker 1: obviously somebody who's a bit in his head on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame him, it happens. He's young, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to unsee it. Like when Kayla he

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Speaker 1: was struggling last year. He wasn't throwing picks. He was

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Speaker 1: making plays with his feet. You could not deny his athleticism.

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Speaker 1: Even Greg Cosell kept saying, you know, the tape will

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Speaker 1: tell you he makes incredible throws. This JJ McCarthy thing

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Speaker 1: about four more of these and they got a problem

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Speaker 1: on their hands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they have JJ beside. The

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Speaker 2: one drive at the end was atrocious. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: a complete train wreck. I mean balls are flying all

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Speaker 2: over the mat. I mean, he just not even close,

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Speaker 2: and I think Tom was in a tough position being

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Speaker 2: a Michigan man trying to not totally crush the kid.

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Speaker 2: But even Tom's like, I got no clue. There was

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Speaker 2: a stretch where they did some replays and something I

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Speaker 2: don't even know where he's throwing. I do want to

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Speaker 2: say this though, that if you just take the two coaches,

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Speaker 2: you know, if we just did a draft from scratch,

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Speaker 2: they would be two of the highest guys in the league,

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Speaker 2: right Ben Johnson Kevin O'Connell. I actually think they're the

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Speaker 2: polar opposite though, being offensive guys and both former quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Now O'Connell got drafted Ben Johnson think was a backup

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina. Ben's basically Kyle Shanahan two point zero.

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Speaker 2: He will run it till the cows come home, and

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Speaker 2: he makes it. It's a lot easier on Caleb to

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Speaker 2: be in situations where I'm not putting it all on

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Speaker 2: your shoulder, because I think Caleb, when he plays like that,

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Speaker 2: can get a little reckless and start running around. And

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Speaker 2: because he naturally plays like that anyway, which he's incredible

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Speaker 2: of breaking out of sacks. I mean his ability, he's

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Speaker 2: like unsackable. You have to get multiple guys on him

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Speaker 2: because he's breaking through. But Ben Johnson day, the majority

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Speaker 2: of this game was just one score game. This wasn't

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Speaker 2: like one team's up twenty four to three. Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 2: just insists, and I said this last year was Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald when everyone just took a giant, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of dump on Sam Donald's career. It's like he didn't

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Speaker 2: get any help in that playoff game for his coach, like,

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Speaker 2: have some runs, settle the game down. Ben Johnson wants

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Speaker 2: to run it basically, just three times, get a first down,

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Speaker 2: run it again. Kevin O'Connell's calling these deep breaking routes.

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Speaker 2: It's like, Bro, this is not Sam Donald during the

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Speaker 2: regular season. It's definitely not her cousins. This guy has

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Speaker 2: no clue where the ball is coming out of his hands.

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Speaker 2: He throw a pick in the corner of the end

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Speaker 2: zone on a go route. I don't know why you're

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Speaker 2: calling go routes for this guy. He's overthrowing guys. If

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Speaker 2: you're gonna throw some quick stuff, okay, some quick outs

587
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: somewhat easy, even though he was missing those two. But

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Speaker 2: there was one point in time during the first half

589
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Speaker 2: that they were averaging almost five yards of carry and

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Speaker 2: the Bears had like double the amount of carries. If

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Speaker 2: it was flip flopped Jordan Mason Aaron Jones, they would

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Speaker 2: have they would have easily both got double the amount

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Speaker 2: of touches they got. But he insists, and I get it,

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Speaker 2: he's got these two awesome wide receivers, but that's how

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Speaker 2: he wants to coach. He wants to throw the ball

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Speaker 2: vertically down the field, and that is not what this

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Speaker 2: guy is capable of doing right now, right you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is much better player than JJ, and he

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Speaker 2: would be quote unquote more capable to do that. But

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and they got wide receivers too, but he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna play like that. And you got a coach,

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Speaker 2: and I saw on social media it's like, well, you

603
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Speaker 2: gotta let him sing swim. The goal of today was

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Speaker 2: trying to win the game, and this was a winnable

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Speaker 2: game for both teams. And Ben Johnson to me thoroughly

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Speaker 2: out coach Kevin O'Connell because yes, JJ stinks, but his coach,

607
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Speaker 2: like in the middle of the game in a one

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Speaker 2: score game, can help this guy out. And he's insisting

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Speaker 2: on pushing the ball down the field and he's blowing

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Speaker 2: up in his face. Yeah, and I'm not stunned. But

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Speaker 2: it's like it's a consistent theme now with O'Connell throwing

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Speaker 2: the ball, you know, with this guy.

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Speaker 1: And think about this in the fourth quarter at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, john when they trailed the Bears

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Speaker 1: got that huge kickoff return, so JJ McCarthy leads him

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Speaker 1: to a touchdown. You're like, oh my god, Minnesota's gonna

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Speaker 1: get out of this thing. Look like crap all day.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game. Bears get a huge kickoff return,

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Speaker 1: and did you of course notice what did Ben do?

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Speaker 1: Three straight run plays. He's like, hey, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: put Caleb. Caleb had a couple of bad sacks earlier

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Speaker 1: in the game. To your point, Ben's like, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: run the football, pick off a bouch seven to eight yards.

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Speaker 1: Sanos is going to come in and get the game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal. They could have thrown it, they could

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Speaker 1: have put they didn't. Ben Johnson's to your point, Ben's like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run it, We're gonna keep it. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna put any pressure on it. We've outplayed these guys,

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Speaker 1: we just got the kickoff return, so Ben, and it's

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Speaker 1: not dismissing Caleb. It's like, I'm not gonna put my

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Speaker 1: young quarterback on the road against Brian Flores. I'm not

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Speaker 1: putting him in this spot. And they just ran it.

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Speaker 1: The kick was good. But that was a situation where

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, oh, that's that's kind of conservative. But

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, no, Sandals is good. That's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be the issue. I'm looking online. I'm like, no, I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. He would left earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: I think Jake Moody came in for a brief time.

639
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Speaker 1: Santos is now bad, but he got injured. But I

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Speaker 1: think to your point, Ben Johnson, I mean, what's the

641
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Speaker 1: first thing he did when he got the job. Joe Tooney,

642
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Speaker 1: Drew Dolman, Jonah Jackson. It wasn't tackles, it was interior line.

643
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Speaker 1: Settle the line, stay off Caleb's feet and run the

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Speaker 1: ball with swift.

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Speaker 2: I'm blown away by Ben Jos, just because you never know,

646
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Speaker 2: no matter how great a coordinator is, when he becomes

647
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Speaker 2: a head coach, we see so many guys fail. He's

648
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Speaker 2: been fantastic. I mean, I'm not trying to overreact, but

649
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Speaker 2: like philosophically, the way that I personally view football, I'd

650
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: rather have Ben Johnson than Kett O'Connell because that translates

651
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Speaker 2: what he's doing with this organization that has been losing

652
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: for a long time like ugly toxicity. Let's face it,

653
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Speaker 2: most people that coach the Vikings have some success. They

654
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Speaker 2: are a well run operation with historically a ton of

655
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Speaker 2: good players. That's not the case with the Bears. Now

656
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Speaker 2: we'll see the Bears. You know, still got to play

657
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers. They still got to play the Packers. They

658
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: got the Lions again. The forty nine er game is

659
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Speaker 2: going to be huge for them. There's no guarantee that

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Speaker 2: they're going to make the playoffs. But Ben Johnson at

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Speaker 2: seven and three, you know, I know Vrabel and rightfully

662
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: so is anointed. I would put him hand in hand

663
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Speaker 2: right there as coach of the year. It's been today.

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Speaker 2: Was awesome to go on the road and to just

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Speaker 2: calm everyone down by just keep calling run plays. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: What that does?

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Speaker 1: I mean? I go back to the first scoring drive

668
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Speaker 1: for the Bears was either a fifteen or a sixteen

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Speaker 1: play drive. Now think about that, you have Dj Moore,

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Speaker 1: excellent tight ends, Caleb Williams, you have playmakers, and Ben

671
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Speaker 1: Johnson's we're going to take the crowd out of the game.

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Speaker 1: Six yards, four yards, eight yards. Nothing quiets a crowd

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Speaker 1: like a fifteen play drive on the road. And so

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson again long sustain smart. I think Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson maybe my two favorite play callers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They just it's death by a thousand cuts.

677
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: It's just smart. Six four I thought Sean Payton's last

678
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Speaker 1: drive with bo I thought that sixteen play drives Chicago

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Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah, I mean it's it's well, there's

680
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Speaker 1: no question offensive coaches help you on quarterbacks over defensive coaches.

681
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Speaker 1: But even among offensive coaches, there's a strata, there's a

682
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Speaker 1: there's a hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: Really quick, I mean, big picture. With the Viking, we've

684
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: seen this a couple of times recently, and Brock Purty

685
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: bailed John and Kyle out, and it sure looks like

686
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones bailed Chris and Changstyking out. Who's bailing this

687
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Speaker 2: Viking situation out? Because this is that this guy is

688
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Speaker 2: and even a diehard, the most you know, bullish guy

689
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Speaker 2: on JJ would have to admit, like, yeah, he had

690
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Speaker 2: one good drive, but for the majority of these games

691
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Speaker 2: he is a troc.

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Speaker 1: I have nine turnovers in five games. That's that's that's

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Speaker 1: the number I put down, Like that's you can't have

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Speaker 1: two turnovers a game. I mean, again, Donald's gonna have

695
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Speaker 1: a stinker. But with Darnald, you get big arm, the

696
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Speaker 1: huge athletic ability, you have multiple you can as a teammate.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's gonna get you the ball like he jsn

698
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Speaker 1: was the first receiver to one thousand. Justin Jefferson is

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Speaker 1: not Look at his body language. He had not a

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Speaker 1: happy camper.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't blame him. I mean he's running out

702
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Speaker 2: routes wide open and the ball's sailing, hitting the trainer

703
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Speaker 2: on the bench. He had a couple out routes that

704
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: when that ball left his hands, it's like it's like

705
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: when Randy Johnson hit the bird. You know, it's like

706
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Speaker 2: I don't even know where that ball's going.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey

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Speaker 1: Business brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official

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Speaker 1: whiskey of the Colin Coward podcast, Buffalo Beats the Buccaneers

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: forty four to thirty two. Wildly entertaining game. I got

711
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: so many notes here, I'll try to keep it simple.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen three passing touchdown, three running touchdowns

713
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Speaker 1: despite the interceptions. Josh Allen to me, he's the best

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Speaker 1: football player in the world. I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: football player. He made one of the five best football

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Speaker 1: players I've ever seen. It's just insane. I still don't

717
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Speaker 1: love the receiving cord, but it's just amazing how he

718
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Speaker 1: can just kind of make everything work. James Cook is

719
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Speaker 1: obviously a tremendous player. He had a touchdown out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield today. I thought Baker played pretty well. Baker

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Speaker 1: ran a lot today because I think Baker had to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Sean Tucker. I mean, god, where do

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Speaker 1: they find these running backs in Tampahire.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know who that was. I had to

725
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Speaker 2: google it. He's from Syracuse. Was like, who is this guy?

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Speaker 1: He looked like a he almost he looked like an

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: He was just your fantast dude.

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Speaker 1: I guess my takeaway on this the Bill's eight yards

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Speaker 1: per kind of my takeaway on this is and I've

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Speaker 1: had two executives. Tell me this Buffalo doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: roster people think they have Josh Allen. They have two

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Speaker 1: or three really good players. But I mean, you look

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Speaker 1: at Denver's roster, you look at Philly's roster, you look

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Speaker 1: at the Rams roster, Seattle you got dudes. You look

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Speaker 1: at Buffalo's roster. And it was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: picks today because I thought, and I felt kind of

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Speaker 1: lucky that Buffalo pulled away late. But let me just

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Speaker 1: ask you, do you think the Bills to have it?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's as good as the Ravens. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the Bills have a top ten roster? No?

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Speaker 2: Today, I mean they have one guy who is a

743
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Speaker 2: transcended all time player. My wife had her baby shower

744
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Speaker 2: back in the Bay Area, So for the last forty

745
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Speaker 2: eight hours I spent a lot of time on the

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Speaker 2: couch watching sports. Yeah, and on Friday night I watched

747
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Speaker 2: Steph Curry for like the second time and three Nights score.

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Speaker 2: He scored one hundred points in two games. And it's

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Speaker 2: not he is the Golden State Warriors franchise. He is

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Speaker 2: the franchise kind of like what Michael Jordan was to

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Speaker 2: the franchise. Josh Allen is the Bills franchise. This team

752
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: was a joke for twenty years. You watch him to day,

753
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Speaker 2: like as Patrick Mahomes has elevated the franchise, But I

754
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: was watching them. They were winning ten to eleven twelve games

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Speaker 2: every year with Alex Smith right and Andy Reid's average

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Speaker 2: probably I think like eleven wins is for twenty years

757
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: before he met Patrick Mahomes. If Patrick Mahomes disappeared tomorrow,

758
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: they would not be as good, but Andy Reid be fine.

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: They'd find another quarterback. They keep winning. If Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: disappeared tomorrow, the Bills would become the Jets or the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins like that.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how rich their ownership is because that's

764
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Speaker 2: what they were before. Just like when Steph Curry retires,

765
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Speaker 2: the Warriors are the Kings with the more rich owner.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what it is. I mean yeah, I

767
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: mean with the exactly with the higher ticket prices. So

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Speaker 2: you watch Josh Allen today, it's like he's an unstoppable force.

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Speaker 2: Like I listen, Lamar is a fantastic player. I've watched

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Speaker 2: the Ravens most of my life be really good right now.

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Speaker 2: He elevates them. But if Lamar disappeared tomorrow, I think

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Speaker 2: the Ravens a couple years would figure it out and

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Speaker 2: they'd be good again. They're well run out.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Bears with Tyler Huntley, Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: looked great. They played a clean, efficient football game and

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Speaker 1: beat Chicago soundly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to diminish any of these people.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say, I don't I think people

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Speaker 2: are quick to forget what a joke the Bills were.

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Speaker 2: I mean part of what everyone made fun of. Belichick

781
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: and Brady's like, well they get the Jets, the Bills,

782
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins six times a year because those franchises

783
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Speaker 2: were so bad. And he comes and you're watching to day,

784
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Speaker 2: it's you know, Lamar early on was so athletic people

785
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: couldn't touch him. It feels like he's a little slower now.

786
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a little age, a little wear and tear.

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Speaker 2: Josh's physicality is like you're getting the best of the Herbert's,

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Speaker 2: the Burrows and the Mahomes throwing, but then you get

789
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: this Cam Newton like runner. It's like, what are you?

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Speaker 2: What are you supposed to do here? You can't you

791
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: can't fit. So you watch him to day you go

792
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Speaker 2: it is because I thought, for a one second, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: they lose this game, they're in major.

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Speaker 1: Truckle was scoring so quickly.

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Speaker 2: I also think, you know Keon Coleman chefter reporter today,

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Speaker 2: he was inactive and he was there, you know, high

797
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: picked couple of years he missed a meeting on Friday. Well,

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Speaker 2: I I think if you tell me the Bills are

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Speaker 2: eight and one coming into this, is he inactive or

800
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: does like Sean McDermot just sit him down, gets a

801
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: talk and no one really hears about it. But when

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00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: you've been losing, you kind of got to show the

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00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: team like, we're not tolerating this. That's a we've been

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Speaker 2: losing and I got to set the tone here with

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Speaker 2: the rest of my organization. So when I saw that,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is kind of on tilt a

807
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: little bit for the Bills, especially with the way the

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Speaker 2: Patriots looking, how easy their scheduled today was huge. If

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Speaker 2: they lose this game, I still think they'd make the

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Speaker 2: playoffs because they got some winnable games. It does feel

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Speaker 2: like the McDermott era would be hanging by a string.

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Speaker 1: I said Friday on the show, I said, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite picks is Buffalo. If they lose, that's my

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Speaker 1: lead Monday, like, oh, like there's tipping points on all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, right, it could be Mark Jackson getting replaced

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Speaker 1: by Steve Kerr. It could be you know, Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: losing a job. They're tipping point games and this was

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Speaker 1: one of them. You don't lose at home.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I just when I watched Buffalo play today, Tampa scored

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Speaker 1: too easily. The fact that Sean Tucker come in and

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Speaker 1: just run over players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three touchdowns today. He had a couple passing and

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Speaker 2: two rushing and one passing.

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Speaker 1: Like there's a reason people though draft running backs high

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Speaker 1: generally because there's so many players you can find in

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Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. But I just watched Buffalo

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Speaker 1: today and it's not really the Bills. It's just Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: He's the best football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I Mean I always thought Elway, because Elway got drafted

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Speaker 1: I think by the Yankees. Elway could have been a

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Speaker 1: baseball pitcher, he could have been a football player. I

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Speaker 1: always thought like Elway was, like, that's just about as

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Speaker 1: good as you're gonna get. Josh Allen's bigger, stronger, faster everything.

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Speaker 1: Plus it's like Big Bend, but just better at everything

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Speaker 1: than Big Ben.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I'd agree.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland sixteen. I took Cleveland plus eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: I thought the line was screwy Baltimore Cleveland at home.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, John, I firmly believe this

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Speaker 1: that if Cleveland had a big time, top ten quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they would be a super Bowl team, a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: bubble team. I think their defense is Miles Garrett's unblockable.

850
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: What did he have four sacks against? He literally he's

851
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna have twenty eight sacks. He's unblockable. Devin Bush picked six.

852
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: They look a little like Seattle defensively. It's like they're

853
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: playing with twelve to thirteen guys, and at home, the

854
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: weather's cold. I think they've got I mean they led

855
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: sixteen Uh was it three sixteen ten?

856
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: They were controlled sixteen ten for me?

857
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were pushing Baltimore around. And it was

858
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore's third straight road game. So that's one of the

859
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: reasons I like Cleveland. Then Dylan Gabriel, who really is

860
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: stabilized the offense. They're not great, but he's stabilized it.

861
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: He leaves, Shadeur comes in, and Shadur looks a little

862
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: over his skis the first driver too, he's a little lost,

863
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: and then he with some of a position where he's

864
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: driving to win. He makes a couple of nice throws,

865
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: a couple of nice plays. He you know, he was fine.

866
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun to watch. But my takeaway

867
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: is Baltimore third straight. Now they go home, I think

868
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: for three straight home games, so this was bound to

869
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: be an ugly game. What did you make Let's just

870
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: talk Shador. What did you make of what you saw?

871
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, the Browns offensive line is horrendous.

872
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's really really bad. Now. Luckily, Shador is

873
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: used to that because he played the last couple of

874
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: years of Colorado where he was running for his life.

875
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: You know, I have a hard time judging a rookie

876
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: coming in the middle of a game against the Ravens,

877
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: made a couple of nice passes, also had to pick

878
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: had it took a couple of sacks. I mean, they're

879
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: bring guys. It's hard for me to even to like

880
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't great if you just do the totality of it,

881
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: But how many guys would have excelled in that situation.

882
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: The Ravens also, I mean, they have to win this

883
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: game with the Steelers winning, you know their margin peer

884
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: because they start one and four. They this was like,

885
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: this is must win territory for him, so my expectations win.

886
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: I get the text like because I'm kind of paying

887
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: attention because again I just assume they're gonna win. But

888
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: once Dylan Gabriel gets knocked out, it's okay, I'll see

889
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: how my expectations were pretty low. Say we're really low.

890
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: It was gonna need a Miles Garrett like six sacs,

891
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: one of them be a forced fumble and pick it

892
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: up and return for a touchdown. Because at the end

893
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: of the day the Ravens dbs. I mean, they were

894
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: just gonna it was gonna be a tough spot for

895
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: set Or so I'm not gonna crush the kid in

896
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: that situation. That's at night, you're cold. Yeah, you know,

897
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: it's just now. I do think I saw enough. Like

898
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: just keep minting, you know, let's just see what it

899
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: looks like next week. Give give him a chance. What

900
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: do you get? What are you gotta lose more games? Yeah?

901
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: I thought his final drive spin move than a throw

902
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: in the next play to the end zone. I'm like,

903
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: those are two big time plays he can play, all right.

904
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: Green Bay beats the New York Giants twenty seven to twenty,

905
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: so it's really interesting. So first of all, I think

906
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: they missed three pats. It was windy as hell, it

907
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: was a hard day to play.

908
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Look cold.

909
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: But green Bay again, like the Rams clean no turnovers

910
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: when I watch them play, because Jacobs went to the

911
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: tent and got hurt. My takeaway in green Bay is

912
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: is their best players are perimeter players like Watson that

913
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: Jordan loved to watch. The today was an unbelievable play.

914
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: It's windy, you're on the road, the snap's not perfect.

915
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Love bobbles it, grabs it, throws up freaking perfect

916
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: ball down the right sideline in the corner, and I'm like,

917
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: Okay that this kid. They are so reluctant to let

918
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Love pass thirty five times. And the more I

919
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: watch them, he was thirteen to twenty four, two tds,

920
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: no picks, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He

921
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: he'll let on cork. He has some Sam Darnold, he's

922
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: got some Andrew Luck. He'll uncork. He's more far than Rogers.

923
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: He'll un corkshit and you'll go God Jordan. But and

924
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: it was a weird day because the Giants actually had

925
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: more rush yards, passing yards, in total yards, at least

926
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: late into the game. They were better on third down,

927
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: they won time of possession, they had fewer punts, right,

928
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: But Green Bay is like three and out or exciting.

929
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: They're an incredibly uneven offense. And I think a lot

930
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: of it is because they don't have an identity. I

931
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: think they should just put it in Jordan Love's hands

932
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna throw the ball and see what happens.

933
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: Well, I was talking to Goldie before you hopped on,

934
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know, the moment Josh Jacobs

935
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: got hurt, we all took a sigh of relief because

936
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: we knew that we had to open up the offense

937
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: a little bit, and I think it's kind of a

938
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: crutch for Lafloor. Jacobs is awesome. I mean, he's a

939
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: fantastic player, but I think Lafloor, who is much more

940
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan would run it forty five times

941
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: a game, yes, and has no problem if he's gonna

942
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: win it twenty to thirteen. He's not looking for style points,

943
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: you know. And I think he really relies on the

944
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: pass that Jordan Love threw to Christian Watson in the

945
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: corner of the end zone. I don't looked like Rogers

946
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: to Devon Adams seven years ago. So one guy that

947
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: kind of popped today was Christian Watson. And I think

948
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: it's always driven Lafloor a little nuts because he's you know,

949
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: drops and you know he's a speed wide receiver. It's

950
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five, like I would use that guy

951
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: because he's flying around, you know, the rookie wide receiver

952
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: from Texas keep in and out of the lineup. You know,

953
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: they got to mix and match a little bit with

954
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: some of these wide receivers are rolling out. Dobbs had

955
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: a couple of bad drops.

956
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: Drops.

957
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: You know we talked about the Bills. I thought today

958
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: when there was a moment you're like, is Jameis Winston

959
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: gonna beat the Green Bay Packers? Felt like the Bills

960
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: game against the Bucks, like this is a turning point

961
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: for their season, and this would be It got really

962
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: loud the last couple of weeks, right, it's it's Losing

963
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: to the Eagles is not the end of the world

964
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: for la Floor, but losing to the Panthers and the

965
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: Browns is losing to Jameis Winston, even in a freezing, cold,

966
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: windy game. And I'm a Mike Kafka guy, but you

967
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: can't be losing to Mike Kafka and Jameis Winston when

968
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: you're the coach of the Green Bay Packers and you've

969
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: already lost some games. It was must win, I mean,

970
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: and for a split second you're like, I think Jamis

971
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: might take him down. Damn James. They were in trouble,

972
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: and then Parsons made some plays, their defense made some plays.

973
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Jamis had a really bad end zone pick,

974
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: like he just missed by five yards. No, I think

975
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: listen the receivers. There's been talk something I.

976
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Think Daball might still be around if Jamis had been

977
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: their backup quarterback the whole time instead of Russell Wilson.

978
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: He just gives them a little more mph, doesn't he.

979
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, I because Dabell loves football. I saw

980
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: an article this weekend in one of the New York

981
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: papers and they're like, he's just a football junkie. Dable's

982
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. He'll code, He'll He'll take an assistant

983
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: job somewhere. He just wants to coach.

984
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: He wants the Penn State job. Diana was saying, Wow,

985
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

986
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: I like Dabel. He's rough, he's not for everybody, but

987
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a football junkie and I think he's smart.

988
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: He reminds me a little of an offensive Brian Robert

989
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: Sala where he's wound tight. He's really intense. Sometimes about

990
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: twice a season he's gonna lose it and you're gonna

991
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: be like, Bro, you can't do that. You're a head coach.

992
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: Like I tend to defend those guys because I do

993
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: think Sola is a remarkable coach, and I think Brian's

994
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: really good, but.

995
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: Kind of Bill. But he's like a chubby, bald version

996
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: of Bill O'Brien when he was younger.

997
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: But Matt, Matt lafan You know, I always heard this

998
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: about Matt Lafleur when he was in Washington and he

999
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: came out, then he went to Tennessee, and then he

1000
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: went to the Rambay. The Packers people said Shanahan of

1001
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: the Shanahan McVey Lafleur trio, McVeigh was the best culture guy.

1002
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: Shanahan was the best scheme guy. Matt was a little

1003
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: of both. He doesn't quite have the presence of McVeigh.

1004
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: He's not quite the scheme guy Shanahan is. I think

1005
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good CEO, but I don't think he's

1006
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: quite as clever as Ben Johnson. He's not quite as

1007
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: clever as a play designer and a play caller. I

1008
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: think he's just a very good coach who's good at

1009
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I don't understand the lack of

1010
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: trust for Jordan Love because that's what it feels like

1011
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: me watching That's what I might as a consumer of

1012
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: the Packers. I'm like good and I understand when Kraft

1013
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt. It's not quite the same offense, but it

1014
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: feels a little predictable to me. That's what I'm watching.

1015
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a couple of three and outs.

1016
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: It's like you've got too many good players to have

1017
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: three and outs.

1018
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean I think

1019
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: you go back to when Rogers resurrect his career. I

1020
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: think his his gut is to run the ball. I

1021
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: think he's a conservative coach. You are who you are,

1022
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: you know once you get to his level, like your

1023
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: ethos as a play caller. He is not a spread

1024
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: it and chucking around the yard type guy. That's just

1025
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: not who he is. And I think it's very, very

1026
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: difficult for him. I think if you put Kevin O'Connell

1027
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: on the Packers, they would be much better off, and

1028
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: Jordan Love would be much better off because that's what

1029
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: he wants to do. And I think if you put

1030
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur with JJ McCarthy in that group, they would

1031
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: look better. So it's just to me, it's just a

1032
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: style and his style. Remember him and Aaron butted heads

1033
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: because he wanted him under center. He want him running

1034
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: the ball. He does not want shotgun four or five wide.

1035
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: That's not what he wants to do. Jordan Love definitely

1036
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: feel and listen, he's not as good as Aaron Rodgers.

1037
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: Of course he's not. You're gonna have to deal with

1038
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: some picks, but like, let him slinging around. I give

1039
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: credit to the last two guys have dealt with Sam Donald,

1040
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: Like just let him fling it like he's gonna have

1041
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: some days like today, but over the aggregate, it's gonna

1042
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: be pretty good. I watched that throw that he made,

1043
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: and you could argue that Jordan's a little bit of

1044
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: a tease. You know, he's not as good as some

1045
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: of these guys, which I heard you saying this the

1046
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: other day on TV, Like he's just good. He's not

1047
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: great or whatever, but he's not bad. He's good. You

1048
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: could win a lot of games with the Cousins, the

1049
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: Jack Prescott. That's Jordan Love's world. Let him slinging around.

1050
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: If he came out today, He's six', four big, arm,

1051
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: moves nice. KID i, mean he always any time you

1052
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: put a mic in front of, him he's always a team.

1053
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Guy he And mendoza would be the top two. PICKS i,

1054
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: mean his traits are.

1055
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: Outstanding he's a Bit Ty. Simpson Ty Ty simpson couldn't

1056
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: dream of having the skills he.

1057
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: Has, YEAH i don't Get Ty simpson that that ship

1058
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: has sailed for me after Sevenatur. Day but, OKAY i

1059
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: want to get talk about this. Game San francisco forty

1060
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: One arizona twenty. Two Brock purty played very, well got

1061
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: started with a Sky more kickoff, return and they were

1062
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: off to the. RACES i got To i'll say, THIS

1063
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: i Think shanahan And Robert. Sala first of, All arizona

1064
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: was a. Mess they had eleven penalties in the first.

1065
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: Half harrison didn't, Play But i'm going to Give San francisco. Credit.

1066
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: John i'm not sure if any other staff in that

1067
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: THE nfl could Overcome IT'S i Texted saul at the other.

1068
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: DAY i was, like bro you're coaching your ass off

1069
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: because you have no players, left And, WINTER i think

1070
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: is a very good young. Player BUT i, mean my

1071
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: my interpretation watching that game today, WAS i, mean obviously

1072
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: you can move a pocket much more with Brock purty

1073
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: than Mac. Jones they you, know they're moving the pocket

1074
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: all over the, place and that's What brock does very.

1075
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: Well but they should not be beating people forty one

1076
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: twenty two on the.

1077
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: ROAD i do think one The cardinals have less like

1078
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: a star, power but they are as injured as the

1079
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and now and the forty nine ers getting,

1080
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: purty but piersoll, back their offense feels a lot different

1081
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: when you Put Ricky piersall With, Jennings kittle and. McCaffrey

1082
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: i did think it was a delicate. SITUATION i get,

1083
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: it you paid, him you, know one hundred and eighty

1084
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: million dollars, Guaranteed but how Well Mac jones has been.

1085
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Playing And kyle was steadfast and, like this is our.

1086
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Guy when he's, ready we're gonna. Go AND i, said

1087
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: this is kind of. Weird he's, ready what's been up

1088
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: with his? Foot he's just gonna be one hundred. Percent

1089
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: he looked completely. Normal And kyle the way he handled

1090
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: with Mac, jones and he Gave mack a lot of

1091
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: credit to is, Like kyle's pretty good at. Quarterbacks, yes

1092
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: they're winning a lot of games With. Mac how many

1093
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: coaches beside like A Andy, reid could you just be, like,

1094
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: yeah you're just gonna win ten eleven. GAMES i don't

1095
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: care what your schedule. Is with a banged Up purdy

1096
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 2: and Mac. Jones i'd say most teams in THE nfl

1097
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: are winning six, games especially With Fred warner with a

1098
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: cast on his. Foot nick nick Boson florida rehabit AND

1099
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: Acl so, listen The cardinals aren't, bad but the forty

1100
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: nine ers beat the livin you know what out.

1101
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: Thinking about, This arizona had almost five hundred yards of

1102
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: offense and averaged seven yards of play and got the

1103
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: you know what kicked out of. Them arizona has. Talent

1104
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: arizona is they're just.

1105
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 2: Big Oh they're just.

1106
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: They Are indianapolis where you're, like they've got, dudes they

1107
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: just don't have the, quarterback. Right, so you, KNOW i

1108
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: think there is you, know we. ALL i WHEN i

1109
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: watched the coaching, today especially in the late, WINDOW i

1110
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: Had Andy reid And Sean. Payton you, know Today i've

1111
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: Got Kyle. SHANAHAN i don't know If John gannon's a great,

1112
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: coach but shannan. Is i've got McVeigh And mike. McDonald

1113
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: i Got John, Harbon. STEFANSKI i Like. STEFANSKI I i

1114
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Think john the coaching in THE fl, TODAY i don't

1115
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: think there's ever been this many good young. COACHES i

1116
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: think it's. All AND i think That Jesse minter with

1117
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: The chargers will eventually get. Something there'll be a college

1118
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: guy or too that will pop. Out Ryan day obviously he's.

1119
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 1: Done this is the Best ohio. State Like ohio. State

1120
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: for the first time in my, life it feels like

1121
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: they've Like, bama they've separated from people like by a

1122
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: touchdown or. SO i think THEY'LL i think they'll Beat indiana.

1123
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: SIGNIFICANTLY i don't know WHEN i WHEN i Watch shanahan And,

1124
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Sala i'm just. IMPRESSED i, mean they a. Lot they've

1125
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: got eight different guys defensively traded or not playing on.

1126
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: Defense, WELL i think when you look at a lot

1127
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: of the in the forty Nine ers been one of

1128
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: the best teams over the last what five six? Years

1129
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: you go to The, bills you know who's the poster Child,

1130
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: mahomes who's the poster child for the Ravens? Lamar, right

1131
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: you just go around the top. Teams there's a couple,

1132
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: though like The. Lions you kind of Think Dan campbell. First,

1133
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 2: yeah you definitely with the forty Nine, ERS i mean

1134
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: that they're they're they're franchise Is Kyle, shanahan you, KNOW

1135
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: i mean his his importance and Getting Robert solid to come.

1136
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Back you, KNOW i get asked a, lot do you

1137
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: think he'll get a head coaching job this? YEAR i

1138
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: just don't think the, Candidates like he's definitely gonna get

1139
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: some interviews. PROBABLY i, MEAN i Think Jonathan gannon is

1140
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: in major trouble. Now i'd also argue that if this was,

1141
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: COLLEGE i would View arizona as one of those, jobs

1142
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: LIKE i wouldn't touch that, Job like that's just a

1143
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: bad that's a place where it tough to, win especially

1144
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: when you factor in you're gonna Beat Kyle, Shanahan sean,

1145
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: McVay And mike. McDonald good luck to you with an

1146
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: owner of this Cheap god speak, guys because THAT'S i

1147
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: don't Think Jonathan gannon's, terrible but their team's really falling

1148
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: apart now they're Not they're gonna their record's gonna be.

1149
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: Awful so, YEAH i, MEAN i, Listen kyle this. Year

1150
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: we liked him because of their, schedule but once you

1151
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: had all the, injuries it could have fallen off the

1152
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: rails fast and deserve a lot OF i think the

1153
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: mac jones that signing and resurrecting his career because he.

1154
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: LISTEN i think his value it's, like, well would you

1155
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: trade him to The Minnesota. Vikings, yes, NO i need,

1156
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: him but my problem is what a party gets? Hurt? Again?

1157
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: Right his value to the forty nine, ERS i would

1158
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: for the right, price But i'm not giving to you

1159
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: for a third round. Pick would you give me two

1160
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: seconds or? Something because do you want to? Win or

1161
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: do you do you want to? Lose because you're gonna

1162
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: lose WITH jj McCarthy.

1163
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Right, NO i Think minnesota is to. Play AND i

1164
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: said it last week on the. AIR i Said i'd

1165
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: get a third round. Pick you're probably, right he's worth

1166
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: a second and the fourth or a second and the.

1167
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: THIRD i think it's probably what Mac jones is. Worth

1168
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: and it's always hard to decipher is Mac jones good

1169
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: or is it maybe just the? Coach BUT i do

1170
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: think when you Watched mac make throws to a depleted receiving,

1171
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: corps it was pretty. IMPRESSIVE i.

1172
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: THINK i think one thing too that you know last

1173
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: year he was injured but changed the forty nine ers,

1174
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: forever was that it was between The rams and The

1175
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: niners to Get christian, McCaffrey and it was The niners

1176
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: gave a, second a, third and they had to give

1177
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: that extra fourth to make sure they got, him and

1178
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: it changed the. Franchise AND i would say also doubling.

1179
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: Down you, Know kittle was getting a little. Older he's

1180
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: a pretty Dominant so when you watch those two, guys

1181
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: they are as good of a tandem as a running

1182
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: back and tight end as you're gonna. SEE i mean

1183
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: they are they are ass. KICKERS i mean they are ass.

1184
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: KICKERS i Think kittle had two touchdowns today and.

1185
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: He's he's just so physical and he's so good in the.

1186
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: Run and McCaffrey even on some of his runs that

1187
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: aren't a sexy he's just so physical and he's so. Consistent.

1188
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: Though those guys are just They're hall Of fame. PLAYERS i,

1189
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: mean that's that's really. What they're Just hall Of fame.

1190
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: Players they're winning, players and they're guys you know when

1191
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: kind of you know what's hitting the fan and your

1192
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: backs are against the. Wall they're guys you can lean.

1193
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 2: On and that's The chiefs have have had those type.

1194
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: Guys you just need those type guys to be in

1195
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: the trenches.

1196
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: With, yeah that was one of My that was my second.

1197
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Favorite blazing five PICK i Took San francisco minus two

1198
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: and a. HALF i, said When shanahan gets blown out

1199
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: take The niners the next.

1200
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: Week you know it might come down To now The

1201
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: bears sketch was a little harder than The. Niners but

1202
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: The bears play the, night they could cut that seven

1203
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: seed could come down between those two. Teams don't that's

1204
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: a big game.

1205
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Question WELL i HAVE i Have philadelphia Beating detroit, tonight

1206
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: so you Know chicago keeps winning. Ugly don't be shocked

1207
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: If chicago has a shot to win the, division which sounds,

1208
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: ridiculous it's.

1209
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: CRAZY i know.

1210
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,640
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Speaker 1: last ten minutes. Here you know when the nil college football,

1229
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: talk when the nil and transfer portal, emerged the big,

1230
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: fear AND i think the media does a bad job at,

1231
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: this the political media and the sports. Media it's always

1232
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: the end of. Time so the nil and the transfer,

1233
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: portal the fear is the Rich you're only going to Get. Richard,

1234
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: well actually the opposite has, happened is that take Out

1235
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Ohio state mostly because of their. Defense but after this, Weekend, Bama,

1236
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Old Miss, Oregon, Indiana, Georgia TEXAS a and M.

1237
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: John it was a couple of years ago When bama

1238
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: And georgia looked different than everybody. Else i'm looking at

1239
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: all these teams outside Of Ohio state mostly because of

1240
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: this unbelievable. DEFENSE i, MEAN i Watched Michigan northwestern came

1241
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: down to a final. KICK i Watched IOWA usc came

1242
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 1: down to a couple of. Calls there is so much

1243
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: parody now in college. FOOTBALL i Like georgia a, lot

1244
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: and they certainly Have texas's, number But bama Has georgia's

1245
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: Number Old. MISS i, mean if it was such a great,

1246
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Job Lane kiffin would have already signed that. Extension him

1247
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: not signing it is probably a sign that he knows

1248
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: there's limitations At Old. Miss everybody was afraid The portal

1249
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: and THE nil were going to just bury The iowas

1250
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: and bury the you know You're now we've Got indiana

1251
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: AND a AND m and Ol miss have. EMERGED i don't.

1252
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: KNOW i Think Ohio state's the best, team but, AH

1253
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: i Watched bama. LOOSE i was. Shocked i'm Like, christ

1254
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: there's twelve teams. Here i'm not sure who's the second

1255
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: best team in the. Country Maybe.

1256
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: Georgia, WELL i think for most of the last twenty,

1257
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: years PRE, nil there were two or three teams that

1258
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: were so much. Better you go back To pete and

1259
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: Then urban and Then nick and then for a little

1260
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: Bit kirby And dabbo in there for a, minute and

1261
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: they really only had to out coach an opponent maybe

1262
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: once or twice during the regular, season and sometimes during

1263
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: that regular season game was a team that didn't have your,

1264
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: talent but your team was kind of sleepwalking maybe in

1265
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: your conference championship game and then in the. Playoffs right

1266
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: now you kind of got out coach him Like lane's

1267
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: power as an offensive play callers on full. Display feels

1268
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: like eight of the twelve. Games, yeah look at. Yesterday

1269
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: why do you Think? Venables you, Know venables And kirby

1270
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: are probably the two best defensive. Coaches they are head.

1271
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: Coaches patricia's probably an overqualified college. Coach, yeah you know

1272
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean how well he's. Doing but they match

1273
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: up well again, Too Kaylin, Deboorn Ryan grubb And Steve

1274
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: sarkisian The oklahomas beat him twice two times in a,

1275
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: row and obviously he's beaten sark the last three times

1276
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: they've played in the last two. Years, well because we

1277
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: got we're basically even, right relatively, Equals and it's just

1278
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: a coaching schematic. Matchup AND i am At venables In

1279
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: kirby are elite defensive, coaches just Like lane's an elite

1280
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: you know offensive. Coach sark is. Two you, Know arch

1281
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: is a little hit or miss you, know it's. Quarterback

1282
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: if you had a better quarterback, play Maybe AND i

1283
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: think coaching is just more on full display in more

1284
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: games games now than. EVER i, mean you AND i

1285
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: have been. Talking i've come around because yesterday is a

1286
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: great example of, like you, Know oklahoma Playing. Alabama well

1287
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: five years, Ago oklahoma's Playing kansas And alabama's Playing kentucky

1288
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: On november. Fifteenth so you, know, UH usc is Playing

1289
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: colorado And iowa's Playing. Minnesota those games. Suck now we

1290
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: get the mat they're playing each. Other, yeah you, know

1291
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: the best thing that ever THE sec ever did was

1292
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: Get oklahoma And texas to come because it is it

1293
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: has amplified their. Games that just they have double the

1294
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: amount of sweet games and they already had a.

1295
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: Lot, LISTEN i was A pac twelve, fan BUT i

1296
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: Got IOWA usc in the. Rain it was a great.

1297
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: Game it was Getting Oregon iowa the week before that

1298
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: may have been a better. Game and so, YEAH i

1299
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: like all this stuff to.

1300
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: Me, Texas, GEORGIA i mean it's just been bright lights

1301
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: the last two. Years it's must. Watch.

1302
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: YEAH i just Think i'll be honest About. Oklahoma they

1303
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: really surprised, me you, know they've got so they have

1304
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: a big time quarterback that can make the. PLAYS i

1305
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: think my big takeaway out of THAT i had said

1306
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: last week two of my big takes WERE i don't

1307
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: really Buy TEXAS a AND. M they fell behind thirty

1308
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: to three and came back and. Won i'm still not

1309
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: blown away by. Him it was a great, comeback but

1310
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: they got manhandled at home for an hour and a.

1311
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: Half the second thing Is Ty, SIMPSON i don't see

1312
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: the traits. EVERYBODY i am a trade. GUY i don't

1313
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: care what your record was in. College Joss allen couldn't

1314
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: win in. College mahome's not a losing. RECORD i don't really.

1315
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: Care the bottom line is you got. IT i have

1316
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: to say. Wow it's something Like Kyler murray may not

1317
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: be a GREAT nfl, quarterback But i'm watching him run

1318
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: around And i'm, Like, wow that's better Than Mussel. Wilson that's.

1319
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: Wow Ty simpson's, fine but it's kind of A jj McCarthy.

1320
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: Thing surrounded by good. Players there's not a single trait

1321
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: Where i'm, like, shosh that's first. Round Ty simpson's draftable to,

1322
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: me feels like a mid late second round. Guy did

1323
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: you have a different opinion about The bama. Quarterback weeks,

1324
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: ago everybody Said heisman number one.

1325
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: Pick, Well i'd say this ten years ago before quarterback,

1326
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: inflation which started with The Mahomes Alan lamar kind of,

1327
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: run and everyone's been. Drafted overdrafting. Quarterbacks guys Like Ty

1328
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: simpson AND jj McCarthy went in the third or fourth,

1329
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: round As Dak prescott And Kirk. COUSINS i, mean that

1330
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago that those, guys they won a

1331
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: lot of games in. College Mississippi state was number one

1332
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: team for a moment When dak was. There Google Kirk

1333
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: cousins record in. College those guys went in the third

1334
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: and fourth. Round to, Me Ty simpson has never been

1335
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: a top one hundred pick to the last seven eight, years,

1336
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: RIGHT jj, McCarthy maybe because come From michigan's like a third.

1337
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: Rounder but these guys now this quarterback, inflation they get overdrafted. NOW,

1338
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: jj to me is a more physically brings more to

1339
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: the table Than Ty. SIMPSON i Mean Ty, Simpsons Ryan,

1340
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: williams the star wide, receivers Fawn Off, cliff the other

1341
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: two guys are still pretty. Like he's playing with some

1342
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: pretty elite coaching and some pretty elite. TALENT i Love Michael,

1343
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: pennix But Michael penix is not good and you go, back,

1344
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: Well Michael panicks played with THREE nfl wide receivers in elite, coaching,

1345
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: Right so it's JUST i Just i'm out on. Tip

1346
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: this quarterback class is. TERRIBLE i mos texting around. Yesterday

1347
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: it is not. Good it's not good at. All Lenora,

1348
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: sellers who in the you watched that first half against Six,

1349
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: Sam you're, like got this? Guy? Really the second half

1350
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: of just? Atrocious, well who's he going up Against Mike?

1351
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Elko that guy's an elite defensive. Coach what did he?

1352
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: Do he made a couple of. Adjustments sellers to seeing

1353
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: ghosts and it's just a train. Wreck so to, me

1354
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: this is Not IF i hear one more time about

1355
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: The browns Or, jets their savior does not exist with

1356
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: the top five pick in this. Draft it does. Not

1357
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: so if that's what they're obviously that's what they were.

1358
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: Hoping BUT i don't see any of these. QUARTERBACKS i Like.

1359
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: MENDOZA i like his, size AND i like the fact

1360
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: that he. WON i like the fact that he went

1361
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: cal To. Indiana he's never had five star. Teammates he's

1362
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: never had a great old. LINE i like the, fact big,

1363
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: strong big.

1364
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: Arm you, know.

1365
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: It comes to his, Family cuban. Immigrants it's a great,

1366
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: story like he wrapped your, arms, Like, oh this kid's

1367
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: worked his ass. Off really a good. LEADER i do

1368
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: think he looks. Different, also he's twenty. Two Dante moore's.

1369
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: TWENTY i think that matters a. Ton he to me

1370
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: That Penn state drive and how he played Against illinois

1371
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: And Penn state late And. Oregon if you go to

1372
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: three moments of this season where you were, Like, Okay,

1373
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: mendoza you have to deliver otsin, stadium Last, Drive Penn

1374
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: State illinois. GAME i thought he was unbelievable in all.

1375
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Three, yeah and he's gonna play in seven bigger, games

1376
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: and he's gonna Get Ohio state in the championship. Game

1377
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: more than likely he's gonna play in playoff. GAMES i,

1378
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: mean who. Knows if they Play Ohio state close in

1379
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: the championship, Game Ohio state and them could host like

1380
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: they could be because they. Can they can see the

1381
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: top four however they. Want and to, me if you

1382
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: live To Ohio state by under ten, POINTS i got

1383
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: no problem Making indiana a top four seas so they

1384
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: are they're gonna play in massive games against The, georgia's The.

1385
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: Oklahomas he's got a chance to really solidify himself because

1386
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: obviously it's what he did Against. OREGON i had some

1387
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: buddies at the game in the scouting, world and they

1388
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: said his mental toughness to bounce back after that pick

1389
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: six and make. Plays obviously The Penn state. Game but

1390
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: now he gets to go up Against Ohio. State he

1391
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: gets to go up against probably one of THESE sec.

1392
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: TEAMS i Mean, oklahoma that could be who, knows maybe

1393
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: a first round Matchup oklahoma Against. INDIANA i, mean you're

1394
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: gonna get some great matchups for, him specifically obviously his

1395
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: coach And, signetti they've done an incredible. JOB i do Think.

1396
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma here's WHAT i will say About venables BECAUSE i

1397
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: was googling him last. Night basically in ninety nine he

1398
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: came With stoops To. Oklahoma, yeah he's worked at two

1399
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: places in twenty five, Years oklahoma And. Clemson so he

1400
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: knows two things really well because do that run With

1401
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: stoops and then With dabbo he can. Recruit he cares

1402
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 2: about recruiting, you AND i talked some coaches LIKE i

1403
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: don't want to. Recruits he cares and he, tries And

1404
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: oklahoma is a good recruiting. Operation he cares about. It

1405
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: he's and he's a great defensive. Coach and you watch his,

1406
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: team you, go they got players which he's. Recruiting and

1407
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: his defense is only so LIKE i think people in little,

1408
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: meat heady and. Stuff he brings some stuff to the. Table,

1409
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: yeah he will recruit and his defense is. Elite and,

1410
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: listen he just paid that thirty year old And matier to.

1411
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: Come so it's, like, hey you take the offense And

1412
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: i'll do the program and the defense and we'll. Be

1413
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: we'll have talents and we will. Be they're not good on,

1414
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: defense they ARE sec dominant on.

1415
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: Defense, yes AND i and that surprised. Me texas is

1416
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: winning a lot of, games didn't surprise. Me you. Know

1417
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: it's it's funny Since texas joined THE, sec they've only

1418
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: got like four, losses three or To. Georgia, yeah so

1419
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: everybody's selling all Their texas. Stock it's like they can't Beat.

1420
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: Georgia it's like The seahawks can't beat The. Rams darnold's

1421
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: beating everybody. Else sark AND i Thought arch played. OKAY

1422
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: i don't LOVE i think Losing gold into THE. NFL

1423
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,959
Speaker 1: i don't feel Like texas has a number one dominant.

1424
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: RECEIVER i REALLY i Thought arch played. OKAY i first of,

1425
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: ALL i Think george is a much more physical. PROGRAM

1426
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: i just think they are you, know you AND i

1427
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: have said. THIS usc And texas are, Pretty They're, Finesse they're,

1428
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: Pretty they're. Cool george is not. Cool george is, Tough

1429
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: george is, hard AND i Think george is a bad

1430
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: matchup For texas. FOOTBALL i think they.

1431
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: Just, well don't you think the? Identity look at the

1432
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: identity of these. Coaches you, KNOW usc actually has shown some,

1433
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,839
Speaker 2: toughness but relative to what they are in their, heyday

1434
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: not even. Close, sark you, know a Little, finesse he's

1435
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: an offensive. Guy lane who's the you, know just the

1436
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: everyone says they got to Hire lane and he's awesome offensive.

1437
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: Coach his defense is, Terrible yeah, RIGHT i mean it's

1438
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: the identity of Debor alabama's defense shell of itself what

1439
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: it used to be offensive, team, Right, Oklahoma kirby like

1440
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: those guys are defensive. Guys So kirby last night went

1441
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: on the tirade Of, yeah we don't do checks here without.

1442
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: Physicality it goes hand in. Hand so you're not just

1443
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: getting getting the money and getting to check out and

1444
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: run around and score. Touchdown that's not how like you're

1445
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: getting screamed at. Here we're hitting. People we're hitting people.

1446
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: Hard but that's who he, is AND i think it's

1447
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: hard Like lane and so it's not really their. Thing

1448
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: they want to score, points they want to go, fast

1449
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: they want to make that's that's but that's who they.

1450
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: ARE i don't EVEN i don't even blame. Them the

1451
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: one thing you, Know sark really. Has their defense is

1452
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: actually pretty. Good but he should recruit the cream of the,

1453
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: crop like he can run What kirby has done At,

1454
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: georgia What pete And urban have done And saban have,

1455
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: Done like he gets to pick of the literate text

1456
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: because they got the most money and people want to play.

1457
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: There, YEAH i Think sark's. Good, again they can't Beat,

1458
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: georgia AND i think there's a reason for. It what's

1459
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: interesting Arch.

1460
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: Arch let them down in moments this year and he's

1461
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: he's gotten. Better it's taken them a little. While and

1462
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: last night guys dropped balls early and but then as

1463
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 2: the game went, on he started missing some guys and

1464
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: their margin freer is.

1465
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: SMALLER i will say this, though right, Now oklahoma has

1466
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: a better identity Than texas, does AND i think that

1467
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Is that's What i've said ABOUT. Usc it's. Funny i've

1468
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: been banging on USC's, culture and last night When lincoln,

1469
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: won he went out and said that was a culture.

1470
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: Win that was a culture win because he hears all

1471
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 1: the criticisms that we know you're smart and a good offensive.

1472
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: Coach we know you're a great play. Caller everybody knows

1473
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 1: that With. LINCOLN i, mean they've been number one or.

1474
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: Two they're number one in offense or number two on

1475
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: offense this. Year that's even when they, lose they lose in,

1476
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: shootouts except The Notre dame games have been tough for.

1477
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: Them but he came out.

1478
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: Twenty one ten in the rain at. Half it did

1479
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: not feel.

1480
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: Good, no it was. That by the, WAY i not

1481
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: only had a good blazing five my only college pick

1482
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: who was In. IOWA i thought it was just a

1483
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: was it was just going to be a, close ugly.

1484
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Game but they. Won and NOW i don't THINK usc

1485
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: matches up well With, oregon Although i'll tell YOU i

1486
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: THINK usc thinks they match up. Well my problem is

1487
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: that you can BEAT usc down the field throwing the,

1488
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: ball and If oregon's healthy err at wide, receiver they'll

1489
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: BEAT usc down the. Field That oregon's a big play.

1490
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: OFFENSE usc gives up big. Plays they can be very

1491
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: good in the red. Zone they've got excellent. Safeties When

1492
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: bishop And Kamari ramsey are, healthy they ACTUALLY usc safety

1493
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: is are. Pros Kamari ramsey's probably a second round. Guy

1494
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: the other guy is probably a fifth round. Guy but

1495
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: If Wyman jordan comes back to the running back FOR,

1496
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: USC i think they'll move the ball a little. Bit

1497
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: it'll be. Competitive BUT i Think oregon doesn't give up

1498
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: a ton of big plays Under Dan lanning AND usc.

1499
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: Does and that's the. Difference if it was AT, LA

1500
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: i THINK i would think it was thirty three Thirty

1501
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: you THINK usc has a.

1502
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: SHOT i mean it was. HARD i MEAN i. WAS

1503
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: i watched some of that game On friday night when

1504
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: they were Playing minnesota and their backup tight. End it

1505
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: was just A i, Mean oregon's got some.

1506
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: Players their defensive line is got two first round, lineman.

1507
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: They got two tight ends that just look like they

1508
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: would catch seven balls On sunday. IMMEDIATELY i, mean it's just,

1509
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: like where are they getting? Now they've been recruiting at

1510
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: a really high level for a long. TIME i don't

1511
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: think it's. TOUGH i also think you know that the

1512
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: buzz On lincoln over the last like two weeks had

1513
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: been like the program had finally kind of turned the.

1514
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: Corner they've been winning some, games like is this guy gonna?

1515
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: Leave some weird's going on like that there, was and

1516
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: let's there's a lot of smoke out there with a

1517
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: lot of these college Go i've heard things rumors About

1518
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: Kaylin duboor just this is not a great. Fit i'm,

1519
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: like where'd you? Go, LIKE i don't, Know Penn. State

1520
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: they just it's just weird fit for, Him AND i

1521
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: just think fit. Matters BUT i Think, lincoln YOU i

1522
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: think you tweeted this. Out it's twice now in basically three.

1523
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: Weeks The nebraska game when they missed the field, goal

1524
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: he went, nuts and last night when they, won he

1525
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: Went i've never seen him do that so twice this.

1526
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: YEAR i think he feels the weight of the. World

1527
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 2: how could you, not younger? Guy you take one hundred

1528
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: and twenty million dollars first couple of years is just

1529
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: weird this. YEAR i, MEAN i don't think they're that,

1530
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: Talented so if they end up going nine and, THREE

1531
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: i actually think he's done a pretty good. Job but

1532
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: it does feel big picture like they're still watching some

1533
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: of these top, teams like still pretty far away from

1534
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: like there is a chance that they get i don't,

1535
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: know blown out by twenty five points this. Weekend right

1536
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: they KILLED.

1537
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: I think they're going to have a hard time Stopping.

1538
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: OREGON i think they'll, score BUT i think it could

1539
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: get lobsided pretty. Fast all, Right, John we won Our

1540
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: monday night football pick last week For Hard Rock Bet

1541
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: dallas minus three against The. RAIDERS i gotta tell, you you,

1542
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: Know i'm Watching Kansas city And denver play And i'm, like,

1543
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: man The raiders are a long way from. THAT i

1544
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: was always a supporter Of Pete. Carroll they're just NOTHING

1545
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: i like right now with The. Raiders at least The.

1546
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: COWBOYS i feel in this spot standalone, GAME i kind

1547
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: of feel LIKE i Know i'm going to get some offensive.

1548
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: Efficiency maybe if it was four points four and a,

1549
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: HALF i would take The RAIDERS i just don't see.

1550
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: ANYTHING i just feel Like dak in a standalone, game

1551
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: extra day to prepare for a component. OFFENSE i would

1552
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: probably take The cowboys to win and.

1553
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: Cover, YEAH i feel like everyone's doing, that So i'm

1554
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: just gonna take The. Raiders do not feel good about.

1555
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: It Maybe gent just has finally a breakout. Game maybe

1556
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: he rushes for one hundred and fifty. Yards you just

1557
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: have to Imagine Pete carroll's gonna have at least one

1558
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 2: moment during the.

1559
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: Sea are you surprised how bad it's.

1560
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: BEEN i think they are, too because you, know you

1561
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: trade For, geno you Draft. GENT i think maybe they

1562
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: didn't think they were gonna win ten, games BUT i

1563
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 2: think they could thought that they would be a competitive

1564
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: seven to eight win. Team they've been atrocious So Monday Night.

1565
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i would say, historically when you look at some

1566
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: of these games with bad, teams you do get sometimes herculean.

1567
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: Efforts you, know from bad. Teams you've seen a lot of.

1568
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: Upsets not That Cowboys raiders is a big, upset BUT

1569
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: i would expect If pete carroll has anything, left we

1570
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: get a really good showing from The.

1571
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: Raiders john Middlecoff over an. Hour good. Stuff appreciate, It

1572
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: bud see.

1573
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 2: It the volume