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Speaker 2: Come on, Bootleg Camp Podcast Special guest drummer Boy in
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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome a long time.
Speaker 2: I know I haven't interviewed you in like a fucking
Speaker 2: shit since like two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, me, it was me in Heady Real ninety
Speaker 1: two three back in the day. Yeah that was good.
Speaker 1: That was too, so running around through like a little
Speaker 1: press friendships. I think that was.
Speaker 2: Like was that like right when you first kind of
Speaker 2: like broke away from King lo G like officially in
Speaker 2: terms of the label shit.
Speaker 1: Probably like a couple of years after, but yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: like close to it. Right, how's everything been? Man? Good? Man? Chilling?
Speaker 1: It's different? How do you feel like being?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you're kind of one of like
Speaker 2: the fucking the big homies of like the Latin hip
Speaker 2: hop space at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're especially on especially on the independent side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does it feel to kind of just see
Speaker 2: like because I feel like before there, you know, you
Speaker 2: look at like kind of the last decade, there's like
Speaker 2: been these like efforts to like try to like, you know,
Speaker 2: whether it was Suede or like cap G or the
Speaker 2: major labels were trying to see what what do I
Speaker 2: do with a Mexican rapper? Right, and they necessarily didn't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck to do with it? And then
Speaker 2: you guys are grinding independently, but to kind of see
Speaker 2: it be like, you know, it's it's like a positive
Speaker 2: I feel like now if you're a Mexican artist in
Speaker 2: hip hop in terms of like, I feel like the way.
Speaker 1: They're definitely getting with it. Yeah, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't didn't really see it or
Speaker 1: understand that. It was very hard being a Mexican artist
Speaker 1: and trying to like, you know, even have it like
Speaker 1: sit downs with people. You know, that was pretty tough
Speaker 1: to do, you know, unless you have numbers. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, thank god we had we we we did
Speaker 1: have numbers. We're putting the football numbers back back then,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very hard to break through, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: and just have people like, you know, people that like,
Speaker 1: you know, other than the fans, because we had shitload
Speaker 1: of fans fans. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: these record execs and all these people that you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, could supposedly prepare your career to you know,
Speaker 1: the next level. So it's definitely shift now, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, A big shift. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like you got I feel
Speaker 2: like King, little g yourself obviously if you go way
Speaker 2: way back. I mean in terms of the new ship,
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all are kind of like the motherfucking
Speaker 2: the like the fathers of the wave.
Speaker 1: Kind of it's popping right now. Yeah, I mean, now
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I kind
Speaker 1: of take, you know, pride in that. I think people
Speaker 1: that that don't understand or people that you know that
Speaker 1: that are just coming up now shore line to shout
Speaker 1: to short line. Yeah, so short line too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But even before Shortline, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was us, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it was it was Devour. It was
Speaker 1: you know, I remember what was a kid's name from
Speaker 1: the eight one eight shout to Devour.
Speaker 2: But there was another kid from from fucking I think
Speaker 2: he was from Pacoima. He started signing artists recently, but.
Speaker 1: He started signing artists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he used to be a rapper. He had
Speaker 2: like a wave. We had him on the at reel.
Speaker 2: I forget his fucking name.
Speaker 1: Self self provoked, yes, self provokes always been due, right,
Speaker 1: But he was doing his thing like he was. He
Speaker 1: was doing his thing like. Yes. See, so even that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Even back then I was on tour
Speaker 1: with Self Provoked yea. Then then Self Provoked went on
Speaker 1: tour with King lo G. So there's a difference between
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You can mention different people
Speaker 1: that say that they started that wave, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But and there's people that just got with
Speaker 1: the wave now that it's cool to be with the wave.
Speaker 1: Me and myself just not even talking about what me
Speaker 1: and King li G did, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But man, I remember I was pushing it so hard
Speaker 1: where you know, uh, before Nipsey Hustle passed away, we
Speaker 1: did it. You know this This was my set, like
Speaker 1: what I used to do. So we did a show
Speaker 1: at it was Toyota Arena back then today something else, right,
Speaker 1: It was just still Toyo the Arena in Ontario. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in Ontario, bro, this isn't what twenty eighteen. I was
Speaker 1: on stage and Nipsey Ussa was a headliner and it
Speaker 1: was this the arena. I had my own set in
Speaker 1: the back. I had a big ass fucking on the
Speaker 1: on the teleprompters. I had a big gass Mexican flag waving,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then I had homies
Speaker 1: doing burpees. The Homie Turtle put a video together where
Speaker 1: it was like homies doing burpies like screen, Yeah, all
Speaker 1: on the screen with the big gass Mexican flag, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, really, you know, letting people know,
Speaker 1: like this is my culture. So let's you could say
Speaker 1: you were doing shit like that in twenty eighteen, seventeen sixteen,
Speaker 1: you can't really say you were pushing very hard for
Speaker 1: the Mexicans, you know what I'm saying, because I was
Speaker 1: letting it be known, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: back then people were kind of shying away for it, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? From me? Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: good for business and that whole I'm not cheekingt on
Speaker 1: rap shit, right, Think about how many people were saying that, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I never really fell into that.
Speaker 2: I feel like though, sonically, I feel like you never
Speaker 2: like when I would listen to you like you you
Speaker 2: were to me. You always were a rapper who happened
Speaker 2: to be Mexican in terms of like you know, when
Speaker 2: I think it Chicono rap. I think it's some of
Speaker 2: this ship from like the early two thousand.
Speaker 1: Phony you think over your fucking yeah, mister criminal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, because there's different kinds of gang bangers, are
Speaker 1: different kind of tolos.
Speaker 2: But I feel like you were just doing dope, Like
Speaker 2: you were just making dope rap music and you're happen
Speaker 2: to be Mexican, your and your ship, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But what I'm saying is like you ever were
Speaker 1: doing different music, but we still resonated, you know, we
Speaker 1: were still We're obviously Chicago's were from here, right, No,
Speaker 1: it was obviously. I mean, but people would not want
Speaker 1: to like even any any time like that ship would
Speaker 1: pop up or a Mexican rapper, Mexican artist rapper, they
Speaker 1: would want to correct it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like in podcasts, I'm not that I don't do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And like my homies, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I got homies that are supered out, which we that's
Speaker 1: what you consider. You know what I'm saying. Somebody that's
Speaker 1: you know, you know, has the real Chicano like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but Chicano's actually a culture. It's
Speaker 1: actually like you know what I mean. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Like I was in Thailand and I saw I know,
Speaker 2: it's big in Japan, but I was in Thailand and
Speaker 2: I saw Tai fos Chicano out right like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like in Japan, it's like a thing, like they
Speaker 2: have car clubs and they you know, it's like like.
Speaker 1: You said, it's it's a culture. Yeah, it's like it's
Speaker 1: a movement something that started, you know, years ago. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I find it funny, you know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I mean, I really I'm not really too much about
Speaker 1: you know what i mean, coming out and like talking
Speaker 1: my ship, talking to Gang of Ship. But I just
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing now and if people want
Speaker 1: to jump on that wave now that it's cool to
Speaker 1: be be you know what I mean, what we are
Speaker 1: and what we do and ship, then then I'm happy
Speaker 1: for it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Were you ever close to like I'm sure you know
Speaker 2: what the type of numbers y'all you were doing, you know, independently.
Speaker 2: Was there ever a situation where you consider maybe doing
Speaker 2: a major label thing or interest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had sit down. So we had sit downs,
Speaker 1: but like just the ship was too ugly, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like in terms of you know, because
Speaker 1: once we obviously we signed once and shit was cool,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what the fuck I was signing
Speaker 1: and I had to make mistakes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I made empire. So was it distro we sat on
Speaker 1: the label side, Yeah, but luckily, I mean they looked out,
Speaker 1: you know, saying they you know, I mean, I got
Speaker 1: no nothing bad to say for them, you know, I
Speaker 1: say they, you know, definitely held my career out. But
Speaker 1: in terms of longevity and in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: what we do, I really don't think that there's nothing
Speaker 1: that a label could do for you that you really
Speaker 1: can't do for your for yourself, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you have to build your own audience
Speaker 1: and shit, you know what I'm saying. They can't create
Speaker 1: that for you.
Speaker 2: People think if you sign it's like a cheat code
Speaker 2: for fans, right, and it's like, like that's not it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not in a way. Yeah, you have to cultivate
Speaker 1: your cult. It's like your flock. You have to have
Speaker 1: a cult fallow us. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's like no amount of I mean like, look, obviously
Speaker 2: you get some bread, you could, you could run ads,
Speaker 2: you could do things like help you know, increase your exposure.
Speaker 2: But in terms of like you know, really really tap
Speaker 2: it in with the how it could be one hundred people? Okay,
Speaker 2: how do we turn this to two hundred? The label
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do that for you, bro, Like it ain't
Speaker 2: like you sign and some magic shit happens.
Speaker 1: Is they can't. Yeah, they can't do it. I feel
Speaker 1: like they can't. I mean, you have to have genuine
Speaker 1: fans to have longevity in this music in this music game. Now,
Speaker 1: one thing they can do is what I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you sign to a label and you have that
Speaker 1: that now with you know, saying that viralness that they're
Speaker 1: looking for, they can't sit. They can't dumb money into
Speaker 1: you to get you these features that you probably weren't
Speaker 1: able to obtain, you know what I'm saying. And you know,
Speaker 1: they could put you in front of places in different places,
Speaker 1: that's if they really believed in you, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they're gonna do that, right, you know,
Speaker 1: but once that's over, right, then it's like on you.
Speaker 1: Now it's back on you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I feel like, you know, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like you said, man like if
Speaker 2: you got to if you're gonna get into that situation,
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to use those tools into
Speaker 2: your favor. But you also have to understand, like the
Speaker 2: real works should be starting for real, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: Nah, for for sure, I mean it started back with
Speaker 1: us since I mean, thank god that I've been able
Speaker 1: to stay relevant for this many years.
Speaker 2: Bro, when was your like when when would you say
Speaker 2: was your first like real year in the game where
Speaker 2: you like were really like like getting money off a rap?
Speaker 1: Oh really, Okay, that'll be probably like twenty sixteen, Okay,
Speaker 1: so almost ten years. Yeah, twy fifteen is when I
Speaker 1: drop high for everyone. That's what kind of creating my
Speaker 1: own movement, right because I was with King Log and
Speaker 1: we created AK forty seven Boys back in twenty thirteen, twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve around there, that's when we created the AK
Speaker 1: forty seven Boys. This is crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then with the AK forty seven Boys, I was
Speaker 1: initially brought in there just as a producer. So what
Speaker 1: I did was I started taking influence from like Asap Rocky,
Speaker 1: from different people, and then I was like, I was
Speaker 1: a real like beat head, right, So I was making
Speaker 1: beats on the NPC and shit like that. So what
Speaker 1: I was doing was getting like trap sounds and putting
Speaker 1: you know, I maybe trap beats and putting like samples
Speaker 1: over those. And then that's what kind of developed the
Speaker 1: AK forty seven sound back then, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Then we brought EMC and shit, you remember EMC, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of kind of kept going
Speaker 1: from there, you know what it was? It was amazing too.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, bro, like I see all
Speaker 1: your plaques. What the fuck? But I was looking at
Speaker 1: your plaques in there. I didn't even know you did
Speaker 1: so much ship.
Speaker 2: That's just from breaking radio, breaking all these records on
Speaker 2: the radio. Dog's so when you break, when you break records,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, they give you a
Speaker 2: plaque like if you're if you're first to play some ship.
Speaker 1: Or Yeah, I even asked I was. I was looking
Speaker 1: at the ship. I was like, damn, what's this motherfucker? Dude,
Speaker 1: you don't really knows. You gotta talk about that ship. Nah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I'm on the radio in like
Speaker 1: a fucking hundred cities every day. Dog, all right, so
Speaker 1: you know, now you got plaques.
Speaker 2: Bro, We're still on at ninety two three every night,
Speaker 2: seven O'CLOCKNY through Friday.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's dope. But they don't. You haven't took a
Speaker 1: picture with all your plaques. No, come on, you gotta
Speaker 1: do some rapper ship. Nah, you gotta do some rapper
Speaker 1: shit that. I'm like, all right, but we get it.
Speaker 1: How is it, corny, that's a major achievement.
Speaker 2: No, it's cool, but it's like it's just not I
Speaker 2: don't know, dude, Like like you said, I mean maybe,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean yeah, it's just you know, I
Speaker 2: let people come in when they book the studio, they
Speaker 2: take pictures with the plaques.
Speaker 1: Know I did. I was in here yesterday. I took it.
Speaker 1: I took pictures of your plaques and ship. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's just hard. The reason why I asked too is
Speaker 1: because I have you. Me and g fell out for
Speaker 1: a while, remember, yeah, and you know, I mean just
Speaker 1: just regular ship. But now that we got back together,
Speaker 1: I go in his house and you know, we work
Speaker 1: on H forty seven and all that shit, which was
Speaker 1: a fucking huge album for us, and I see all
Speaker 1: the plaques for everything I worked on with him, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I need one. I was like, we're
Speaker 1: all my plaks. But we're talking about, like, well you should,
Speaker 1: bro you you could get all those plats. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: he told me. So he was like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think yesterday or yesterday we drop a
Speaker 1: new record from my album and he's like, drummer and
Speaker 1: he's like, you have like eight plaques and you have
Speaker 1: like eight gold plaques, and you have like fucking six
Speaker 1: fucking Billboard plaques. Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: all those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's it's interesting, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a picture with everything, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like yeah, because even with like Billboard or
Speaker 2: especially on Billboard, like but any of your Spotify ship,
Speaker 2: like the guys who make the plaques, because we're about
Speaker 2: to order some Alexis Plaxa. He has a record it's
Speaker 2: got like twenty million streams, so we're like, yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Put something up in the studio for him, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, right, right, no, that's cool. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: you as long as you have to just I think
Speaker 1: it's like they make you prove that. It's like you're
Speaker 1: a part of it. I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know that like the label any plaque you see me
Speaker 2: having in my possession, the label sent me, right, you know?
Speaker 1: So like yeah, we got like Spotify pa, like I
Speaker 1: had like my hands on or those two Ritz plaques
Speaker 1: out there, I A and R both those records. So okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah that's double as fun. But yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: different though. We got Spotify plaques and all that ship
Speaker 1: that's is cool, but not but the actual like the
Speaker 1: gold Plax, that's what I'm waiting on right now. That's
Speaker 1: just fire, you know what I mean. Yeah, no, thank you,
Speaker 1: I mean you know what I'm saying. But when I
Speaker 1: went into G's house, I was like, you motherfucker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: every plaque because gee, I mean a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know like the new generation, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying in this game, which is you know, obviously they
Speaker 1: heard of us and ship, but they don't know how
Speaker 1: much like we really put on bro.
Speaker 2: I look at like he's like the fucking Mexican nipsie
Speaker 2: for real. I look, yeah, I mean I mean in
Speaker 2: terms of like numbers shows the respect, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Think about it. We were setting out the Novo in
Speaker 1: these places and not really seeing him do no.
Speaker 2: I know he sometimes get wrapped up in some like
Speaker 2: internet ship, but I've never seen him do no goofy
Speaker 2: shit ever. Nah, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's always been like super like I've dude, I've had
Speaker 2: him up in the strip club and as a few
Speaker 2: times like that. He's just a good dude, man, He
Speaker 2: actually is funny. Him and Rich co headlined a tour
Speaker 2: which was the most random fucking tour of all time
Speaker 2: because Rich is like a white trash rapper, right, And
Speaker 2: I remember telling Rich somebody, Hey, that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how was it.
Speaker 2: I think it did well because each of they but
Speaker 2: they each had their own fans. So imagine if you're
Speaker 2: like a king little g fan and you come and
Speaker 2: there's like this chubby white dude with big red hair
Speaker 2: on stage rapping super fast like Jack nine before.
Speaker 1: Ritz. I haven't seen him, but yeah he wraps like
Speaker 1: Tech nine. No, he I mean he wraps like rits
Speaker 1: to be fair, but you know, but like he's just
Speaker 1: super tech, like he chopped Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: I see. How was it? How much fun did y'all
Speaker 1: have working on the album last year together? Oh? That
Speaker 1: show was a blast. Remember we had just reunited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And as soon as we reunited, like the week actually
Speaker 1: like the same week, he sends me, he saying, he
Speaker 1: sends me Gangster Function. He's like, drum jump on this, right,
Speaker 1: so we gangster So as soon as we reunited, were like,
Speaker 1: we ain't got to talk about what happened. We ain't
Speaker 1: got to talk about anything. All we talked about was,
Speaker 1: you know, family ship and how everything was done. And
Speaker 1: remember like, let's go get this money now, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now we're back together, you know. And
Speaker 1: he sent me Gangster Function. And I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I heard Gangster Function, I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: we was wrapping over that too short beat, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was like, man, this is boo boo.
Speaker 1: So then I was like, all right, it's so but
Speaker 1: he sounded dope on it. But I didn't see myself
Speaker 1: right because I wasn't rapping like on crazy funk beats.
Speaker 1: Like that because I was a whole funk out bright.
Speaker 1: Then I just dropped the verse. Then we dropped the
Speaker 1: song and that ship with nuts, bro, like nuts, like
Speaker 1: crazy nuts. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that sound is like it's like nostalgic. Yeah, like, uh,
Speaker 2: what's onie from an Ocean Side? We have had on
Speaker 2: the show rapping this hard as fuck? I can't think
Speaker 2: of his name.
Speaker 1: What's the fools name? From Ocean Side?
Speaker 2: He only he said, like he only wraps over. He's
Speaker 2: worked with like sugar free and corrupt, and but the
Speaker 2: ship is.
Speaker 1: Hard, like he's young. Wait, he's like he's kind of
Speaker 1: like mixed. Yes, yes, I know he turned around. I
Speaker 1: can't think of his name. He's been on the show.
Speaker 1: He's dope though, and he has like a little fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: he's hard at fuck. It's gonna bother me because I
Speaker 1: fu with this. What DESI hollow? Does he hollow? Hollow?
Speaker 1: He has a song? I too.
Speaker 2: No, he's tough, but I think it's dope, Like you know,
Speaker 2: like at the end of the day, bro, it's almost
Speaker 2: like why not get why not throw one of them out.
Speaker 1: In the world, you know what I mean? I don't
Speaker 1: think does Hollow fucks with me. I sent him a
Speaker 1: message back then. Really yeah, it was really read it.
Speaker 1: It's never opened. Maybe he didn't see it. Maybe not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe Hollow tapping you play a lot of golf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I stopped. I stopped right now just because we're working
Speaker 1: on the album and ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I saw like you and Left he were playing golf.
Speaker 2: But then I noticed, like you actually played. I like
Speaker 2: noticed from that video like this will really plays golf. Yeah, yeah, no, Left,
Speaker 2: he was out there making an ass out of himself
Speaker 2: on the course.
Speaker 1: That feels still always me a thousand dollars he swear
Speaker 1: everywhere it. I was like, he was like, you know
Speaker 1: whatever course that was when that fool walked up, they
Speaker 1: were probably like fuck yeah he came in. He came
Speaker 1: in like full, like dressed for the club. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: he had an appearance to make. Yeah, it's like and
Speaker 1: Dono came with a small ass shirt, belly hanging out.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker went straight to ross, got a medium fucked
Speaker 1: from the whole polar the closes size that he can
Speaker 1: fit into. Yeah yeah he did that. No, but yeah,
Speaker 1: golf was a kind of like an escape. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's like therapeutic, right, Like
Speaker 1: it is because like a person, like you know, a
Speaker 1: person in our industry, we we tend to overthink about
Speaker 1: a lot of ship, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the thing that's hard about being uh,
Speaker 1: being in this industry and being especially independent and owning
Speaker 1: your own business and doing that. It's not even it's
Speaker 1: not the physical work. It's it's more of the mental work,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like we're constantly thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to drop this, or we got to do this,
Speaker 1: or you know, you got this interview to set up,
Speaker 1: what's the next thing to keep you know, keep the
Speaker 1: ship in motion. And then sometimes that shit could get
Speaker 1: overwhelmed me. So when you do something like golf, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, golf, you know, like right now we're going
Speaker 1: call of duty and ship like something that could like
Speaker 1: completely scared in your mind. Yeah, of that because it's
Speaker 1: hard to unblug. I'll be doing this dude, for real.
Speaker 2: It's like I need to play more video games or something,
Speaker 2: because no matter what I'm doing, my mind is still
Speaker 2: is always ra thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's and that she stressed me out.
Speaker 2: Family, because the phone's right there. I could be fucking
Speaker 2: I could be putting some shit on Netflix, dog, and
Speaker 2: I'm still like, right, if you're playing golf, you're playing
Speaker 2: video you have to concer recently, hooping is that's another thing?
Speaker 1: Good cardio? You know? Yeah, that's another thing gave some
Speaker 1: Armenians the business yesterday at twenty four Oh ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can really hoop.
Speaker 2: I mean, but I mean, I'm all right. Back in
Speaker 2: the day, I'm only six foot, but I used to
Speaker 2: be able to play.
Speaker 1: In six foot. Yeah that's pretty tall, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's fucking I guess. So somebody on
Speaker 1: the internet said I was, uh, what the hell? They
Speaker 1: said it was four six, yeah, five nine, five eight,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I'm five nine, thank you. Anybody listening.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm five to nine, all right, Nah,
Speaker 1: But that escape is something you need, bro, because look,
Speaker 1: that should have put you in a fucking depression. That
Speaker 1: should have given you anxiety. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: don't take this ship too serious. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Live your life, you know what I mean. And a
Speaker 1: grind for sure, grind, but live your life because I've
Speaker 1: been doing this long enough to know that you can
Speaker 1: miss a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you miss life trying to chase life, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, that's a fucking bar, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's really like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: real shit, because yeah, bro, I missed a lot, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like we get so wrapped up in the grind
Speaker 2: and like trying to level up, and you know, you
Speaker 2: can't really smell a flower. Sometimes you can't, which you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure you got kids. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's like sometimes you be like, damn, I gotta
Speaker 2: chill out. Like as much as I'm going hard to
Speaker 2: make sure these fools get anything that they want, like
Speaker 2: I also got to make sure like I'm fucking there
Speaker 2: when I'm there.
Speaker 1: You know exactly, and not just being physically there, as
Speaker 1: being present. Yeah, like you said, you could be there,
Speaker 1: but your mom will be everywhere else. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But yeah, that's important, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But uh, yeah, golfing. Golfing was good
Speaker 1: for that. It was really good. Right now, we're on
Speaker 1: call of duty, so anybody wants to smoke, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're on war zone right now. I've
Speaker 1: been on that ship for like three months. Yo. Hell
Speaker 1: the people been playing at Marvel Rival ship. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: son be on that ship. I heard that ship is gas.
Speaker 1: My kid be playing it. He's fucking Doctor Strange all
Speaker 1: the time. This is Doctor Strange is pretty dope. Though.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange is low key one of the slept on guys,
Speaker 1: like he could do a lot. Yeah he got ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got some powers on him. For you, what is it?
Speaker 1: Because you know you have a label. Is that something that?
Speaker 1: Do you have other artists that you have signed right now? No?
Speaker 1: So yeah, the label? So what I what I have
Speaker 1: is you know, you know, I decided to make my
Speaker 1: own label. My partner one hundred, So we haven't signed.
Speaker 1: We've been thinking about it. But the thing is, when
Speaker 1: you sign people, it's kind of hard bro being an
Speaker 1: artist yourself, Like you know what I mean, You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta try to juggle, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: being an artist and then helping this artist, you know, grow,
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of a hard thing to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you know for.
Speaker 2: Sure, Because then at the same time, then you're you
Speaker 2: have like their life in your hands kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know they're still trying to push your ship.
Speaker 1: You want to be fair to them. You want to
Speaker 1: be fair. Also, there's certain moves that he should be
Speaker 1: making that I wouldn't. I don't have to make anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or you know, you know,
Speaker 1: so you kind of got to balance that out. But
Speaker 1: I think we're getting to the to the time that
Speaker 1: it's time to start signing artists, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I'll probably retire rapping in the next five years.
Speaker 2: I feel like Yogati did it right whe when he
Speaker 2: started to like level up CMG. Right, he would drop
Speaker 2: here and there, but like he was pretty like I
Speaker 2: felt like he was pretty locked in on like yeah,
Speaker 2: cracking the label off and now he's got glow really
Speaker 2: and money back, yell and fucking you know, right.
Speaker 1: But I think it's different because he was he was
Speaker 1: popping on a global on a global for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, you know what I'm saying, So on a
Speaker 1: global scale, you know what I mean? I think it's
Speaker 1: probably easier to to to bring artists out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Especially when you have a fucking a deal with Interscope,
Speaker 2: a label deal with Interscope.
Speaker 1: Right, you have the machine, Yeah, you have a machine
Speaker 1: behind you on a on a on an independent scale.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard because, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard because you're trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: you did to get you here as an independent artist,
Speaker 1: so you're trying to implement that and the kind of change. Right.
Speaker 2: Look, from the time you were coming up, it's like
Speaker 2: a fucking whole new world, you know, bro, it really is.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on like, because now there's like
Speaker 2: a real you know, how do you feel about the
Speaker 2: the podcast space and a blog space in the Mexican
Speaker 2: hip hop community, whether it's the full communities or like
Speaker 2: in Arizona we have Arizona fools.
Speaker 1: Like, there's like this whole, like you know, world of
Speaker 1: media now that you have to be in with, right,
Speaker 1: you have to be in tune with it. Back then
Speaker 1: we didn't, Right.
Speaker 2: And then there's there's podcasts, you know, there's there's just
Speaker 2: a lot like it's like we said, it's a whole
Speaker 2: new thing, but like, how do you like? And then
Speaker 2: like it also gives artists the opportunity to get on
Speaker 2: camera and say some stupid shiit, say some shit that
Speaker 2: gets misinterpreted, beef start, whatever the fuck, and then the
Speaker 2: blogs run with it, like what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: just all that.
Speaker 1: I think it's bullshit, Like I think you shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1: My perspective on it is like the reason why I
Speaker 1: say is bullshit is because people feel like they need
Speaker 1: to do some dumb shit to get views, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Or do some you know, let's do
Speaker 1: some viral shit. Like when was that a thing? Like
Speaker 1: let's go viral, right? You know what I mean? When
Speaker 1: we were dropping, we're just dropping on YouTube. My first
Speaker 1: fucking my first album dropped on that PIF. Crazy fucking
Speaker 1: shout out to that PITH. You feel me. I'm so
Speaker 1: sad when they took it down. That's crazy, y'all because
Speaker 1: it has so much shit on. How many of these
Speaker 1: new rappers know about that PIF though, I would hope.
Speaker 1: I mean that PIF was a wave, that was the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, they had all all the dream chasers on there,
Speaker 2: all the Wayne shit all all the ill shit.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta go on YouTube to find that ship, right, right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just say I feel like if you
Speaker 1: do something intentionally to like to bring attention to you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I feel like Dad's bullshit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I've always been wanting
Speaker 1: to let the music speak for itself. That's why, you know,
Speaker 1: you you know how long I've been in the game,
Speaker 1: you kind of you've been You see me around, and shit,
Speaker 1: I've never been the one to like jump on shit
Speaker 1: and just pop off r or do something goofy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, it's just not in me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And if you're doing that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're doing that just to bring you attention,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's just ship like that, then
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of like a small form of
Speaker 1: like selling what would be selling out to us back then,
Speaker 1: you know, right, you know, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like I think it's like a good thing because now
Speaker 2: there's like outlets that you know, cover Mexican hip hop exclusively, right,
Speaker 2: and so it's like, Okay, that's good. And then then
Speaker 2: then there's other ship where it's like, okay, well some
Speaker 2: of these outlets also can throw some gasoline on the
Speaker 2: fire of like certain.
Speaker 1: Issues with you. I feel like that happens more, it
Speaker 1: happens a lot. I think it happened. I think they're
Speaker 1: more than them breaking artists. They're breaking artists down.
Speaker 2: Like it just happened with the with the Dregs kid
Speaker 2: and the kid from a Stink Team. I felt like
Speaker 2: I was like, God, damn, these motherfuckers are turning this
Speaker 2: beef up, like yeah, and it was like I think
Speaker 2: some ship I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, but I was just like fun, I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I've seen that.
Speaker 2: It was just like unfortunate because it's like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: like this shit ain't worked the fucking and you know, right,
Speaker 2: like you're getting on a blog post, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, people's real lives and these kids, neither of
Speaker 2: these kids have Harvard, you know, you want to consider
Speaker 2: making it now of them kids are millionaires, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Right, Neither of them are in a
Speaker 2: position where their lives have like where they could kick it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, they're still on, like
Speaker 2: Dregs is hot, but like these fools are still on
Speaker 2: to come up, so they.
Speaker 1: Want to come up. Yeah, so yeah, situations like that, like,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, like I fuck with I fuck
Speaker 1: with certain podcasts and I fuck with some people as
Speaker 1: individuals and what they're doing as a moment. You can't
Speaker 1: knock the hustle. That's another that's another hustle. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: with Icon, I can't be staying out of that messy shit.
Speaker 1: Fuck I No, that's one boy. But yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: like no, no, Icon does try to stay out the
Speaker 1: messy ship, you know what I'm saying. But I feel
Speaker 1: like he plays his favorites though he does. He does,
Speaker 1: but you know, I I you know, I think he
Speaker 1: left full community for some like because some ugly respect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I gotta respect that. You know. When I talked
Speaker 1: to him, I was just like before I would I
Speaker 1: would see him, and you know, because I've known Nicon
Speaker 1: for ten years, he used to wrap yeah yeah videos
Speaker 1: on that. I'd be like, man, you're falling into all
Speaker 1: that dumb shit. He would always be like, no, that's
Speaker 1: not me, it's not me. And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. But the day he left and the reason
Speaker 1: why he left, I was like, all right, maybe he
Speaker 1: was telling the truth. Yeah. I called him when he
Speaker 1: did it. He was like, he was like, I just can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be He's like, bro, I just can't. This
Speaker 1: just doesn't sit well with me. Yeah. I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like if you're putting that out there, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm very careful about what I put out you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the like the Internet, and they
Speaker 1: see what I want him to see, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I have total control of that aspect.
Speaker 1: So if you're doing some crazy shit, or you're letting
Speaker 1: people do some crazy shit around you and you're filming
Speaker 1: and shit, you're almost just doing it to yourself. You
Speaker 1: can't get mad at a blog for both for sure.
Speaker 1: If you're putting it out there, like you said, if
Speaker 1: you're putting it out there, you have full controls on you. Bro.
Speaker 1: You're like, people will get fucked up on this Internet.
Speaker 1: It so easily.
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be disappointed in people so much because
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, what the fuck? Yeah, why, Like it's crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. You know, I've had so many people tell
Speaker 2: me like, yo, you gotta you gotta do this, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta do this.
Speaker 2: The podcast would be bigger if you did this or
Speaker 2: if you did the streaming and you win it, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: I don't want people to be too invested in my
Speaker 2: personal life. And like, I'm cool, just I'm cool, dog Like,
Speaker 2: there's just certain ship that's just like you know, for.
Speaker 1: Me, it's just not worth it. You know, yes, it's not.
Speaker 1: So so how can you turn around and blame the
Speaker 1: podcast for if you posted it? If it's out there
Speaker 1: on your ship, they're covering what you already posted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so people are quick to get mad at them, but
Speaker 1: all they want is they want news, bro, And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should have kept it off the internet, Like
Speaker 2: if you posted some ship on this your story, it's
Speaker 2: kind of free. It's it's you know, it's up for
Speaker 2: grabs at that point, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what they do. People like you you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and like and like in Head
Speaker 1: and Chuck and all them, people like you guys come
Speaker 1: from music. You guys come from you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying from from radio and all that shit. So it
Speaker 1: makes more sense for what you guys are do. You
Speaker 1: guys are more involved with the music where you guys
Speaker 1: could actually speak with I just love the music and
Speaker 1: I just come from a background where like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I just can't do certain ship dog, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean exactly. On the other hand, the blogs, they
Speaker 1: don't come from them, correct, So all their listle yeah,
Speaker 1: is that is those viral clips for sure? For sure.
Speaker 1: So don't give it to them, guys. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just relax, go viral for your song
Speaker 1: being dope, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or you know, I'll see some people get creative with
Speaker 2: their rollouts where they're like they know it's gonna go viral,
Speaker 2: and they're like low key only but it's like on
Speaker 2: purpose and it's like okay, like it's like harmless, you
Speaker 2: know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, Like right, you know, so how dumb does this sound?
Speaker 1: This is like right now, if I want to go viral,
Speaker 1: I could, right, I could go and get into some ship.
Speaker 2: I could go shoot up, we could get a rest,
Speaker 2: we could set up this interview to where you get
Speaker 2: mad and walk out.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. Fucking racket line right here,
Speaker 1: and then that's gonna go crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But to see how easy it is, the bad ship
Speaker 1: they going to grab it, bro, sure, they're gonna grab it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You just dropped the new
Speaker 1: song with Ralphie. Ralphie Up, shout out, Ralphie, Man, good guy. Uh.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've always kind of like had your
Speaker 2: ear to the street in terms of like the LA shit,
Speaker 2: Like do you feel like, uh, you know, in terms
Speaker 2: of the new generation of LA artists. Obviously, Ralphie's kind
Speaker 2: of a I won't call him an og, but he
Speaker 2: been around his brother long enough. Are you a fan
Speaker 2: of what's going on in LA right now with all
Speaker 2: the new kids that are coming up.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the growth that's happening, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There's a lot of Mexicans doing what
Speaker 1: they're doing and they're getting they're getting praise for it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: that for sure. Definitely a fan of a few artists
Speaker 1: that are out there and I'm fishing and I definitely
Speaker 1: don't like a few of them as well, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know, it's it's a good
Speaker 1: It's I feel overall it's a good thing. Yeah, what's happening,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How dope.
Speaker 2: Was like when you saw that Lefty ended up on
Speaker 2: TV off on Kendrick's album, I was I was surprised,
Speaker 2: even though he was running around kind of talent.
Speaker 1: Everybody he did. I didn't. I didn't really think. I
Speaker 1: was like and then I was like, damn, like it's platinum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, that's that's a
Speaker 1: big moment. Left the gun play, that's a big moment.
Speaker 1: Look Lefty, Lefty's left I met Lefty before he blew up. Right.
Speaker 1: So one of Lefty's first songs that he dropped was
Speaker 1: Letter to Drummer. Right, so he actually wrapped he rapped
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, yeah, he wrapped it. Yeah, he wrapped
Speaker 1: to me on that song. But I met him at
Speaker 1: a club in oc And and he wrapped it to me,
Speaker 1: like in person before he got on that on the
Speaker 1: Corner Store, shout out to the corner Store. This Corner
Speaker 1: Store really freestyle he had that was a superman freestyle.
Speaker 1: That ship was hard. That was that was a ship
Speaker 1: for Lefty. Right. He murdered that. Yeah. So when I
Speaker 1: when I when I talked to Dez, I was like, man, Lefty,
Speaker 1: owe you some money for for sure. But Anyways, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Lefty as a person, Lefty is
Speaker 1: is genuine. I don't think people know that.
Speaker 2: I always tell everybody who asked me. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: the dude's got his demons, but he's got a good
Speaker 2: heart on. Yeah, he's a good dude.
Speaker 1: He's a genuine person for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he just called me like the other day and ship.
Speaker 1: He was like, drummer, I need to be on your album.
Speaker 1: Your album ain't gonna be hard less I'm on your album.
Speaker 1: I was like, shut you, but yeah, I left. He's cool, man,
Speaker 1: and that's a big moment. And I like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you know, obviously people are
Speaker 1: gonna say what they say. You're gonna have your haters
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But man, let him have his time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, let him do his ship.
Speaker 1: You know, left he got a bill from this. Now
Speaker 1: you gotta for sure put some ship out. I think
Speaker 1: he's trying to get It's funny because his his songs.
Speaker 1: I can't get right with problem.
Speaker 2: But I think he's like making a real effort to
Speaker 2: like over whatever with Mike and Keith get his ship
Speaker 2: together in terms of like, you know, the ship that
Speaker 2: you know people have concerns about. But left he's a
Speaker 2: good dude and he's talented as fuck. Yeah he's talented.
Speaker 1: But people are going to find a way to hate, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, they're also going to find a way to hate
Speaker 2: because they they wish they were in his position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. And no, definitely, and
Speaker 1: he seems to like I'm the guy who I mean,
Speaker 1: Think about how many people that probably felt like, okay,
Speaker 1: they should have been chosen for that for one of that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And to be honest as supposed to being like wow,
Speaker 2: like this, they're like Paceel and Lefty are on a.
Speaker 1: Fucking right right exactly. You know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: a win for everybody. It's a win for everybody, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And a lot of people look
Speaker 1: at it that way, like, man, you know they've been
Speaker 1: in the game for so long, in this long woo
Speaker 1: and maybe you know they should have been on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I see that, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: also see that where the state of music is at
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying. And I see
Speaker 1: people are getting signed due to how much cloud and
Speaker 1: how much viral ship they have out you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, which is crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it's cool. As long as you're at peace with yourself,
Speaker 1: you can't be mad at that. You know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm good, bro, Like music has provided for me in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. You know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: you know it's funny when I did, uh, when I
Speaker 1: did an interview with with Chuck Dizzel and fucking and Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember they had had had asked Mausey a question
Speaker 1: about like when does he feel like he's going make
Speaker 1: it right or he made it? And his reply was
Speaker 1: like when he touched his first million. So when they
Speaker 1: asked me that question, which was years back, they like,
Speaker 1: when you're gonna feel like you made it? I was like, shit,
Speaker 1: all I want is like a big house off of
Speaker 1: music and like I feel like I made it. Well,
Speaker 1: we already reached that, Like I already bought my house
Speaker 1: off of that. I'm buying my second house off of
Speaker 1: music and shit, So how how am I in a
Speaker 1: position to be mad at anybody, and shit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you made it, you won. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm chilling, you know what I'm saying. And that was
Speaker 1: kind of like a turning point. But believe me, I
Speaker 1: got to remind myself that that was, you know something,
Speaker 1: what I was knowing.
Speaker 2: It's like we were talking about earlier a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's almost like if you you know, sometimes you got
Speaker 2: to put your like force yourself to rewind your perspective
Speaker 2: to like five ten years ago and be like, damn
Speaker 2: if if you told your version of you back then
Speaker 2: where you are now, yeah, you would be like tripping.
Speaker 2: But you're living in it, so you don't really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't you can't like zone in on it because your
Speaker 1: mind stinking about everything. You know, you gotta keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like you know, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm still dropping albums. I've worked with pretty much everybody
Speaker 1: in La, you know what I'm saying. I've always been
Speaker 1: open minded to working with everybody. I'm from Pomona, so
Speaker 1: my beef, my neighborhood beef, doesn't really stem out of Pomona, right, right,
Speaker 1: so I could work with anybody as long as like
Speaker 1: you know, like the people that I work with don't
Speaker 1: you know, have beef with them and ship. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we've done so much in the game where I feel
Speaker 1: I feel content about that. But the fact that I
Speaker 1: could still drop and and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and still do what I'm doing right now, especially with
Speaker 1: this album that we got coming, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that right there is just like a reassurance that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like I did something right
Speaker 1: because bro, like there's a lot of people that can't
Speaker 1: last a year or two in this game, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's even people that come out
Speaker 1: with major labels and ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that that overnight ship, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 1: don't last as long as like a person like me
Speaker 1: or King lo Z or like you know other people
Speaker 1: that have lasted you know what I mean. That that's
Speaker 1: that's like a that's like a big, big thing, Like
Speaker 1: it's a great feat to accomplish, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What was it like working with Jimmy and the Rancho
Speaker 2: guys crazy, because that's like like Jimmy's a fucking legend,
Speaker 2: like he an LA legend. He's a fucking music industry legend.
Speaker 2: Like that deal he got was fucking put it in
Speaker 2: the rafters with like the no Limit deal, the cash
Speaker 2: Money deal.
Speaker 1: Right, that shit was crazy, bro. And it all stands
Speaker 1: from when me and G got back together and this bro,
Speaker 1: it's not even a year old. And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the internet is cool. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: They're like a major because they got the major, you know,
Speaker 2: But I just like wonder what because I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people in hip hop don't necessarily kind
Speaker 2: of understand what's going on with Rachel Coal Media.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're one of the biggest record labels
Speaker 1: for sure. You know what I'm saying, Like, like where
Speaker 1: is I like they came from? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what are we talking about? Bro? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like you know that ship right there
Speaker 1: was was was nuts. Like me and G got back together.
Speaker 1: The first song we dropped was was was Gangster Function.
Speaker 1: They were playing this ship on bolts and have a
Speaker 1: suit like everywhere. It took over the whole lowrider scene.
Speaker 1: After that, Jimmy gave me a phone call because I've
Speaker 1: been knowing Jimmy and Jimmy just loved that ship so much.
Speaker 1: He was like, drum you got He said, you got
Speaker 1: more songs like this? And I was like, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, some more motherfucker,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we got him. So fucking how that happened
Speaker 1: was that, like, you know, he gave me a call.
Speaker 1: I told G like, G, what was up? Man? You
Speaker 1: want to sit down with Jimmy boom. All we need
Speaker 1: to do is make a couple more songs. He was like,
Speaker 1: let's go. We had a seat, talk to Jimmy. Jimmy
Speaker 1: gave us a fat bag, bro like shout out Jimmy man.
Speaker 1: And the terms were good too. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I've been offered bags from different record labels, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Jimmy gave us a real
Speaker 1: fat bag. And then me and hundred and then Zace
Speaker 1: has some shit to do with it because I still
Speaker 1: be producing too. I just kind of do it on
Speaker 1: the cut. But we came up with like six more
Speaker 1: songs and we just release it, and then we released
Speaker 1: Banging and then Banging with viral, and I think people
Speaker 1: don't remember that because the Internet moved so fast. Sure,
Speaker 1: even though it was fucking last year. But bro, we
Speaker 1: have like fucking forty to fifty million views combined and
Speaker 1: streams combined in less than a year. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Are you dropping this new album in March independently? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're doing this independently. Shout out to kill a cush Man.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of help with friends, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, where we don't have to go out.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Because one of the reasons
Speaker 1: you want to go to a label is to get
Speaker 1: some money, some sash flow. You know what I mean too,
Speaker 1: if you're smart, you're going over there to get cash
Speaker 1: flow to jump into the album, to make the album
Speaker 1: what to do, what it needs to do. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But this album we're doing independently, and
Speaker 1: we got some dope features on there. Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm really it took me a
Speaker 1: minute to get what I was fucking racking. Hunt Man.
Speaker 1: I made this food work overtime because Hunter's my engineer
Speaker 1: and producer, so we kind of reinvented the album like
Speaker 1: four times in the last two months. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: scratch everything.
Speaker 2: Yo, Sometimes I just be fucking with y'all rappers, bro,
Speaker 2: because y'all be scrapping good ship.
Speaker 1: But it's old, all right, here's the funny part, right.
Speaker 1: So for that album, what I did was, and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if anybody listening and struggling with
Speaker 1: this shit, what I did was I made eight ten songs.
Speaker 1: After that, I got influenced by the fucking, the fucking
Speaker 1: scene and the other music that was out. I scratched
Speaker 1: those eight songs. I went did another ten. We fucking
Speaker 1: scratched those. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
Speaker 1: I told Hondo, I told Adam. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let's go run an airbnb, let's go to other and
Speaker 1: let's go find this sound. Right, So then I make
Speaker 1: another fucking like ten songs, and shit, now we're sitting
Speaker 1: on forty songs, right. You know what ended up being
Speaker 1: the album pieces from each of those ten, the first
Speaker 1: fucking the first ten. Well, that's good because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: for right, You're right, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: that's how easy to bring fucks with you man, like
Speaker 1: that shit fuck funny. Now that happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Bro, Like you're like, you'll like, you know, I have
Speaker 2: an artist. So it's like, well, I love a song
Speaker 2: that's like two years old, right, like that shit's old.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but this shit is hard. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: these songs over here are are cool. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm pretty sure people will fuck with them.
Speaker 1: But the feeling that once I heard these songs after
Speaker 1: not listening to them for a whole month or two,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. That's like, these songs over here,
Speaker 1: those are the ones. What do you guys doing distro through?
Speaker 1: Is it just straight distro? Kid? You know, I got,
Speaker 1: I got, so what I what I ended up doing,
Speaker 1: as you know what I mean as being independent is
Speaker 1: I just left relationships open, so like with Orchard, with
Speaker 1: the Empire, with different people select those like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know some of the online distribution
Speaker 1: to like, I just left ship open, so now I
Speaker 1: could kind of I could distribute distribute that through anyone album.
Speaker 1: What about the new album, the new one. I still
Speaker 1: haven't made the actual decision on who we're going with,
Speaker 1: but I gotta make it like today. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to get Yeah, because like I was in a drop.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to drop like a month ago, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Good thing I didn't because we ended up getting bro this.
Speaker 1: We got heavy hitters on the album. We got Bravo
Speaker 1: shout out to Bravos on one of the songs. We
Speaker 1: got Stuper Young, you know, Stupid Young and him go
Speaker 1: Thailand with that guy going crazy. Yeah, Stup Young, he's
Speaker 1: one of the really young.
Speaker 2: Is cracking and Thailand. Oh yeah, his big homie like
Speaker 2: runs a weed shop out there. Oh yeah, from his
Speaker 2: like big hummy from the Asian boys, like moved out
Speaker 2: there and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah yeah, he told me to go out there
Speaker 1: with him and ship. It's fucking sick. Yeah. So we
Speaker 1: got Stuper Young on the album. Then we got west
Speaker 1: Side Buggie hit the J Three's on that motherfucker. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Kinglo G is on like two
Speaker 1: songs that album. It's a West Coast album for sure,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What's the name of the album.
Speaker 1: I don't know it yet, but we're gonna know it.
Speaker 1: In the next tonight too. I got to get the
Speaker 1: distrow together of the album. You got the artwork together,
Speaker 1: of course not Yeah, now the artwork is coming along. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't have the name yet. The look and everything.
Speaker 1: We found the look that we want for the cover
Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I mean. We did the
Speaker 1: shoot and all that ship. But you know, tour coming, Oh,
Speaker 1: big tour coming. We got a yeah, a big tour.
Speaker 1: So that tour right there, Me and King Little Jar
Speaker 1: we're gonna So Kinglo G dropped an album. So if
Speaker 1: you ain't heard the Little G's album, go listen to
Speaker 1: that Ship because it's dope. It's like a it feels
Speaker 1: like like a mixture of like AK forty seven sound
Speaker 1: with just like some new ship. Yeah, he did that
Speaker 1: ship with DJ Flip. That shit is off the chain.
Speaker 1: So he just dropped his album and then I'm about
Speaker 1: to drop mine, and then we're going on this big
Speaker 1: ass tour, bro, Like a huge tour we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I think right now it's at thirty thirty different states,
Speaker 1: but it's already growing. That's big, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: me and him the only headliners, and we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: people out from different different areas, different areas. We're definitely
Speaker 1: tapping in with the homies from a Z, We're tapping
Speaker 1: in from uh some people from Reno. So everywhere we
Speaker 1: go we're gonna bring We're gonna bring somebody out from
Speaker 1: that city. That's fine. So if you're from that, from
Speaker 1: one of those cities, and we might be just sitting
Speaker 1: every fucking city, every state tapping with us, because you
Speaker 1: might just be on stage with us. States is a lot, brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we ain't doing no little rooms, bro, We're doing
Speaker 1: these big rooms, you know what I'm saying. We just
Speaker 1: fucking sold out the the House of Blues in fucking
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Oh yeah, we did that, love that venue.
Speaker 1: I used to live in Vegas Venues dope, right, We
Speaker 1: sold that out twice or some legendary nights in that place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just crazy for sure. I remember we went. The
Speaker 1: last time we did it. I was up till like
Speaker 1: seven am, gambling with stupid youers love the gamble? What
Speaker 1: do you? How do you get what? I played? Crabs?
Speaker 1: Craps is the best I played Crab, But my main
Speaker 1: game is Texas hold them.
Speaker 2: See, I don't know how to play poker, but I
Speaker 2: do love craps. The thing is, I never knew how
Speaker 2: to play craps. Head taught me to play craps like
Speaker 2: three or four years ago. You gotta, okay, just wait
Speaker 2: on a roller. I just it's because I wait on
Speaker 2: the shoot. My main game is roulette or blackjack, but
Speaker 2: craps is fun.
Speaker 1: Bro. You're losing on roulette and blackjack. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got a roulette strategy. I'll tell you about it.
Speaker 1: Its crazy, But craps, bro, if like you said, but
Speaker 1: you could come up quick, but you could lose quick.
Speaker 1: You can lose quick. Yeah, you can. Problem the type
Speaker 1: of motherfucker that buys all the numbers. I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: four hit. Let me hit that six in the eight
Speaker 1: and then I'll double. You know, if if I eight
Speaker 1: or six hits, I'll press it. I'll be like, right,
Speaker 1: just keep it on there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then that seven hits and you want to for
Speaker 1: god damn, Okay, so you just want all right, I'm
Speaker 1: on six and eight all day, six and eight of
Speaker 1: the two. Then I'm passing the line every day, all
Speaker 1: the whole time. You put your odds down, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then when I see that shooter, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You'll know who the shooter is. I mean maybe, no,
Speaker 1: for sure you'll see that motherfucker shooter. He'll I mean
Speaker 1: the last time I came up on that ship, he
Speaker 1: had like twenty four rolls before he hit the seven.
Speaker 2: I had a fucking role I was a part of
Speaker 2: in Vegas and it was like an hour and ten
Speaker 2: minutes straight, No, bro, I made.
Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy. I made like ten bands. Dude, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Sitting there and I was just like just
Speaker 1: sitting there acting it, cheering. And the one thing I've
Speaker 1: never hit though, Yeah, one thing I never hit.
Speaker 2: I've never hit because I've always like I always throw
Speaker 2: down for the the highs and the lows and then
Speaker 2: like all the numbers to where you you pretty much
Speaker 2: you bet the top, you know, where every every number
Speaker 2: has to hit for you to win. But like the
Speaker 2: odds are insane, right, I've never hit that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got close. I've been like one number off. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's funny. When we were gambling out there
Speaker 1: with Stuper Young, there was this lady and then stupid
Speaker 1: stup Young's homie. He was a shooter, so she kept
Speaker 1: calling him China Man. So every time China Man, China Man. Hilariously,
Speaker 1: Race I would have loved thatous. It was fun, bro
Speaker 1: like and that was happened to be standing next to
Speaker 1: her and I was just looking over there and seeing
Speaker 1: if Stuper Young was laughing. That was laughing. That's fucking comedy.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. So yeah, that tour, bro Like, I
Speaker 1: want to emphasize on that tour Summer Summer Okay albums
Speaker 1: in March. I was in March. We go on tour
Speaker 1: a little bit after that. It's going to be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy, man. And I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be big because we are going to bring out
Speaker 1: some of the folks from out here as well, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want to give too many names out, but some of
Speaker 1: the upcoming rappers out here, we're going to bring them out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because me and Little Gee,
Speaker 1: we we're not hating on anybody, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We just quiet, bro. We just like to chill and
Speaker 1: just be in the house and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and we come out when it's time to come out.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm really proud of what's going on
Speaker 1: right now. So you'll see some of the rappers that
Speaker 1: are coming up right now in La on this tour
Speaker 1: as well. Fire you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, man, I appreciate you pulling up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: drummer boy. Now I'm coming out in March. We don't
Speaker 2: know the name yet, you.
Speaker 1: Don't know Do we know the date in March? You don't? Seventeen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do seventeen. You got seventeen Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's definitely Saint Patrick's Day. As a white I
Speaker 2: should know that, right, I have a little bit of Irish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel.
Speaker 1: Like you seem unsure. Is it the seventeens or not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: March seventeenth is St. St Patty's Day? All right? Wear green? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, you're supposed to if you're a fucking
Speaker 2: dueb and you want to drink some Dennis at a bar.
Speaker 1: With a bunch of strangers. But all right, man, nah, man,
Speaker 1: it's supposed you mean being here and ship you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Of course, man, I appreciate you pulling
Speaker 1: up alright, drummer boy, your shirt boom