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Speaker 1: first one of this week's batch, gentlemen. It's a good one, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: It actually starts that it's great to have you guys

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Speaker 1: the Basketball Jones days. One of my favorite questions that

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Speaker 1: the Hall of very Good, the players who won't be

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Speaker 1: seem to recall Al Horford being a popular selection nearly

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Speaker 1: a decade ago when you were discussing this question, what

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Speaker 1: This question? I love this one coming in from Wesley L.

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Speaker 1: So the Hall of very Good? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Who you who would you like to make your pitch for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question because it's the guys who

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Speaker 2: never sort of look at them as a franchise altering

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Speaker 3: You could even say they were very good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well I'm gonna throw I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw at a couple of nights and see

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Speaker 1: I know who you're going to go?

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Speaker 4: Two championships?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Two time All Star, got good, solid veteran for a

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, David West.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, this is nice. That's a great, great

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Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, that's ideal.

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Speaker 2: You know, he when he was an All Star, it

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Speaker 2: you know, I think I think when he was in Indiana,

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Speaker 2: had some playoff success, but by the time he won

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Speaker 2: his championships, he was you know, he was he was

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Speaker 4: So you know, I know, all.

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Speaker 1: That is a great pick. Perfect. I really really enjoy

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Speaker 3: Come with another heaterly another one.

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Speaker 2: This guy I think is going to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I mean I think so because he's

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Speaker 1: He's oh okay, yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, you would

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Speaker 2: He's going to have over twenty thousand points. Wow, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, could get end this year.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, I mean he could easily get in next year

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Speaker 1: He's almost between the Hall of very Good and the

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Speaker 1: No, I get that. I mean yes, but career averages

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Speaker 1: That's very good, hull of very good for me from Arcosol,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. The international play might might, I'm not convinced.

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Speaker 1: In definitely, Yes, But Powell had a better NBA career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got two championships. Yeah, he just did. Maybe

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Speaker 5: He was on my list. I think that's a good one.

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Speaker 5: He led the NBA and blocks four times. I think

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Speaker 1: He's high on that list.

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Speaker 5: He is active. He's the third career twenty first like,

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Speaker 1: Of Fame, but he was very good. I got two

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Speaker 1: He's a career forty three percent three point shooter, forty

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Speaker 1: for Korver, I mean he was. He has really zero

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Speaker 4: Reddick's an interesting one because he came in, you know,

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Speaker 4: big raps out of Duke. Yep, he dropped I think fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Eleven, I believe, oh was it and people wondered would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyone else, I mean I had Surge on my list.

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Speaker 5: Another guy, I would add, he can be right next

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Speaker 5: to Al Horford in the Hall of very Good. Paul

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Speaker 1: Whole Hawks team.

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Speaker 3: We've may Carroll welcome.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Tige, Jeff Tig, bring your pizza box sideways. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think you know the same sort of thing. You're

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Speaker 3: You're kind of.

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Speaker 5: Able to do it all, but not Hall of Fame worthy,

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Speaker 5: but a very good player.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from you, guys, some other guys

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Speaker 5: my Pacers by thirty. My question for y'all is what

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Speaker 5: you guys awesome. That's from Nick p which I got

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Speaker 5: Keim Alijewan. I never saw a Keen play. One of

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Speaker 5: be awesome to watch live.

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Speaker 4: So technically I did see him play, okay, but.

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Speaker 2: I was wrapped as you did not see him playing,

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Speaker 2: and that was against the Wizards Jordan, so I got

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the same for me.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to have seen him play, Yep.

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Speaker 4: That would have been awesome. I wish I could have

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Speaker 1: What about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Moses Malone. Okay, it's an old timy guy.

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Speaker 1: My favorite streak, I'm keeping it simple. It is the

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Speaker 3: The TNT Balls.

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Speaker 5: Haven't lost the Hill that regular season game since February

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it will continue.

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Speaker 2: it's not the longest streak ever. Sherman Douglas went oh

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Speaker 1: Let's it from you guys on this one. These are

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Speaker 1: great questions this week, all right, next one, Hey, no

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Speaker 1: dunka Rooney's. In their recent win over the Pelicans, three

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Speaker 5: Your team had a good game, he doesn't need a

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Speaker 1: No, we're calling this I got, I got something for it.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say. Once a week. This has

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Speaker 1: Hey, Bud going down, Timmy os double double A happened?

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Speaker 5: Next one, yo, what's up? Love the show and the

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Speaker 3: And why? That's from lj D a baller.

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Speaker 1: Yo, what's up? We're your least favorite team as a kid?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I wanted you answer this first? Did you have? Was

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Speaker 3: To be the nice guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, but the the two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to hear your answerlessly because you didn't

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Speaker 4: Take a seat, please, extra dream and yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: I like them because it just felt like Robinson came

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Speaker 2: and like, Elijah One's better, dude.

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Speaker 1: Come on, So you must have been pumped when Elijah

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Speaker 2: what people remember, No, they don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to look at the whole big pictures.

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Speaker 2: I got an angry David Robinson Spurs fan out there,

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Speaker 4: Is better? Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: everybody's cheering on the Bulls too, because you're just you're

440
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 1: always riding on the bandwagon when you're a kid. Anyway, Whoever,

441
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,119
Speaker 1: the best team is who has the coolest highlights. So

442
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Speaker 1: I can't really even pick like the Knicks or the Jazz.

443
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 1: So and because the Raptors came around later in my life,

444
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Speaker 1: I don't really at that point, I'm like turning into

445
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Speaker 1: you know, high school kids. I don't really a kid kid.

446
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 1: So I actually think I was thinking back who did

447
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: I hate and why? It would probably be the Bucks

448
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: because of NBA Jam. The Bucks in the original arcade

449
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: version of NBA Jam, they probably had the worst team.

450
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Speaker 1: It was Brad Lowhouse and Blue Edwards, so which is

451
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Speaker 1: why I would have, I guess hated them because they're like, oh,

452
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: this team stinks. I'm never playing with this team. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: Brad get out of here. And the Blue Edwards not

454
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: much better than Brad Lowe. So I guess I go Bucks,

455
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Speaker 1: but only because of the video game version.

456
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Speaker 2: Just hate Brad love what a great named m you know,

457
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: because Brad Lohaus could hang with like Scottie Pippen in NBA. Jam.

458
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, you know, that's right.

459
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Speaker 2: You can do the exact same dunks exactly exactly, all right,

460
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Speaker 2: next one.

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Speaker 4: Hi, no dunkers.

462
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Speaker 2: I've been a fan since I started watching NBA actively,

463
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Speaker 2: way back in the starter's days. I wanted to talk

464
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Speaker 2: about the resemblance between bam Adebaio and Nikola Jokich. They

465
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: are becoming more and more similar. This season, Bam became

466
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Speaker 2: the second best assisting center in the league behind you

467
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: guessed it, Yokich. There have been far less crazy monster

468
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: dunks from him this season. He became a much better

469
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Speaker 2: shooter from mid range, has attempted more three pointers, is

470
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Speaker 2: getting to the free throw line more, and he's starting

471
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: to record those joker like triple doubles. Also, Yokich, on

472
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Speaker 2: the other side, is getting way slimmer and athletic, dunking

473
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Speaker 2: the ball more and even jumpy sometimes. At least, I

474
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Speaker 2: would love to hear your opinion on this and any

475
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Speaker 2: other weird comparison of NBA players or something else that's

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Speaker 2: from Mattaya Marinkovich.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is an odd email comparing Bam to Yokic

478
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Speaker 1: and they're starting to meet in the middle. Yeah, I

479
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Speaker 1: guess Bam is, you know, getting a little more crafty

480
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: as a center, becoming more of a point guard in

481
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Speaker 1: the center's body and all the things that he listened

482
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Speaker 1: and then Yokich is getting a little more athletic. Yep,

483
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Speaker 1: just throwing it down right, Yeah, I mean I see

484
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Speaker 1: sort of what you're saying. I think it's maybe a stretch,

485
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Speaker 1: But I guess that's the whole point of this question,

486
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Speaker 1: the weird comparisons that you can come up with.

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Speaker 5: They are the same type of player, a playmaking center.

488
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Speaker 5: But that's a thing that has existed. It's one of

489
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Speaker 5: the coolest kinds of players. That's an Al Horford, That's

490
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Speaker 5: a Brad Miller yao, ming it was a playmaking center

491
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Speaker 5: as well, both of the Gasol's a guy that can

492
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Speaker 5: make something happen from the elbows or the top of

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Speaker 5: the key. And you know, as the NBA gets more

494
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Speaker 5: and more skilled, I think we're gonna see even more

495
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Speaker 5: and more big guys who are, you know, almost a

496
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Speaker 5: de facto point guard for their teams.

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Speaker 1: Right for sure? Well, do you have any weird comparisons

498
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Speaker 1: of your own.

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Speaker 4: Like that one? Yeah, this is weird. So it's right.

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Speaker 2: Former Celtic Al Horford is now in Philadelphia and the

501
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: guy who's kind of taking his place is Daniel Tice

502
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: and Tys is you know, like he's not really a center,

503
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: he's not really a power forward, but he can take

504
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Speaker 2: some you know threes, like how he can spread the

505
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: floor somewhat, he can get inside. He's kind of aggressive,

506
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: not a bad defender either, you know.

507
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Speaker 1: I mean it's like he's a poor man's horror him.

508
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think, you know,

509
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Speaker 2: the Celtics trust him and they like him out there.

510
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: You know, he plays some good minutes and he's and

511
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Speaker 2: he's confident, like in his you know, when he shot,

512
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Speaker 2: he doesn't he probably doesn't shoot as many threes as

513
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Speaker 2: our shot or you know quite it's quite a good

514
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Speaker 2: floor spacer. But you know, he's knocked down. He's knocked

515
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Speaker 2: down enough to know that if he gets a three

516
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Speaker 2: and he's open, he should be able to drain it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I've made a weird comparison with another Celtic

518
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Speaker 1: before on this podcast. I said there are elements of

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Speaker 1: Gordon Heward's game that to me are comparable to the

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Speaker 1: way Lebron plays. We talked it out before there. It's

521
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Speaker 1: particularly like that sort of weird strong yet slowish drive

522
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Speaker 1: that he has this weird pause to it. And Lebron,

523
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Speaker 1: of course is the much better athlete and can still

524
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Speaker 1: throw it down and you're not really seeing that from Hayward.

525
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Speaker 1: But there are these times or these getting to his

526
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Speaker 1: spots and the mechanics of how he moves and shoots

527
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Speaker 1: that I like, I really see Lebron, like I just

528
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Speaker 1: see it and it's like, that's what Lebron does sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So it's a weird comparison because I don't think many

530
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Speaker 1: people are gonna go, oh yeah, Gordon Hayward leron James.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you there are elements there when you

532
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Speaker 1: when you watch closely.

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Speaker 4: But who do you got?

534
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Speaker 5: Well, you actually made some more crazy comparisons I thought

535
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Speaker 5: on the show earlier this year. You compared me to

536
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Speaker 5: Yanna Santa, to Kompo and Nicole.

537
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Speaker 1: Jokicic parts of your.

538
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Speaker 5: But that's one hundred percent accurate, So I could see

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Speaker 5: where you were going with it.

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Speaker 1: If I you're definitely more yokicch than you are honest

541
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Speaker 1: closer al Right, next one here, No, Dunk's crew. When

542
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: tragic events occur, we often, fortunately think with much greater

543
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: clarity about what really matters in life, family, forgiveness, spreading love, etc.

544
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Speaker 1: It is natural for all of the NBA to want

545
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Speaker 1: to honor Kobe as we deal with this tragedy, but

546
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Speaker 1: retiring his number across the league is, in my opinion,

547
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Speaker 1: not the way to do it. Had Kobe lived until

548
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Speaker 1: his eighties, the number retirement across the league would not

549
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Speaker 1: have occurred. It makes no sense to do it now

550
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: simply because of when and how he died. Retiring a

551
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Speaker 1: number across the league should be saved for social justice

552
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: trailblazers like Jackie Robinson instead for Kobe. I would be

553
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: thrilled to see every NBA player promise to spend an

554
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Speaker 1: entire day at an all girls camp or exhibition of

555
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Speaker 1: some nature. It could be on the three rest days

556
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Speaker 1: after the All Star Game, or at any point in

557
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, or it would even be better if this

558
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Speaker 1: could become an annual event on the Monday after the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game Kobe Bryant Day in support of women's basketball, Because,

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Speaker 1: no matter how epic, Kobe's on the court legacy and

561
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: his mama mentality. What truly tugs on the heartstrings is

562
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Speaker 1: seeing images of Kobe with Gigi and we can honor

563
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: him best not through a number in the rafters, but

564
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Speaker 1: through continuing his legacy of support for young women playing

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Speaker 1: basketball and all the amazing life growth that can take

566
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Speaker 1: place in the sport. I tend to think this is

567
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Speaker 1: what Kobe would appreciate the most. Peace and love. That's

568
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Speaker 1: from at Eddie Underscore Debaco, coming from Toronto, So not

569
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Speaker 1: a question, but we always ask for comments as well,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what do you guys think about

571
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Speaker 1: that idea.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I think that I do think

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Speaker 5: it's okay, and I think it would be great for

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Speaker 5: the NBA to retire Kobe's number across the league. You know,

575
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Speaker 5: he's right that Jackie Robinson's number is retired in the

576
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Speaker 5: MLB because he was a social justice trailblazer, as Eddie said.

577
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 5: But Wayne Gretzky's number is also retired throughout the NHL

578
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 5: because he's the greatest hockey player of all time. So

579
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Speaker 5: I think Kobe would given the circumstances and his stature

580
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Speaker 5: in the game, I think.

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Speaker 3: That's a worthwhile on it, for sure.

582
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Speaker 5: But I also think that a Kobe Bryant days somehow

583
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Speaker 5: honoring women's basketball is a great idea.

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00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're down with both.

585
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this might just inspire people to

586
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: do these things without necessarily having to have a day

587
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: dedicated to it anyway, to sort of carry on or

588
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: you would hope, yeah, you would hope. You would hope

589
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: that people would, you know, bring more awareness to the

590
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Speaker 2: to the women's game, because yeah, I think the NBA

591
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: is gonna He's going to do something exactly what they

592
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: are going to do, whether they retire his number or

593
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: a number of his. But see, the retiring of the

594
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Speaker 2: number across the league is interesting because twenty four has

595
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: been retired by a couple of teams already. Yeah, so anyway,

596
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: but is that.

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Speaker 1: Really a big deal? I mean, so you just it

598
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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if you think about it. But Bobbie Jones'

599
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: number twenty four is retired in Philadelphia, and then if

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Speaker 1: it's retired across the league, it's not like you were

601
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Speaker 1: going to be wearing it anyway.

602
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Speaker 4: But do you retire eight as well? I mean, yeah,

603
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: That is the funny part with the Kobe having the

605
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Speaker 1: two numbers because it's a weird little.

606
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Speaker 2: Wrinkle the exact amount of time in each. Yeah, So

607
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: it's not like one sort of dominates the other.

608
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

609
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Like so, I think I think the NBA is probably

610
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: right now trying to think of the best way to

611
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: to on a Kobe, and whenever they do, I'm confident

612
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: they'll get it right.

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Speaker 6: This has the same problem for me as the logo

614
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Speaker 6: putting him on the logo putting a Kobe Bryant Day

615
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 6: in support of women's basketball. I know that he was

616
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 6: a great supporter of women's basketball, and you can never

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00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 6: take that away from him, but you can also never

618
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Speaker 6: forget his tarnished legacy where he, you know, raped somebody

619
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Speaker 6: or allegedly raped somebody, and that's it just does not

620
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 6: sit right with me. Maybe I'm being a dick.

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Speaker 1: Am I being a dick?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you are.

623
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Speaker 5: And I think that you share sentiments with quite a

624
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: few people who have trouble wrestling with the legacy of

625
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: Kobe being seen as a great supporter of women's basketball,

626
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Speaker 5: giving his past in Colorado.

627
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: And you're right, that's it's a it's tricky.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the correct answer on that, And It's

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Speaker 5: not totally dissimilar to if the NBA were to change

630
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Speaker 5: the logo to Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 3: It's rubbing it in the face of survivors also, yet

632
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: it really it's tough.

633
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Speaker 6: I get uncomfortable when I assume that Eddie is a

634
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 6: is a man, but there are Eddie women who are Eddie.

635
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: But it's weird to me. Are are women asking for this?

636
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: Are women asking for a day where it's mandatory for

637
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 6: NBA players to spend days at camp? Do they want that?

638
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 6: Do they need that? I mean, I don't know the

639
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: answer to that, But this kind of thing always makes

640
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: me uncomfortable. I absolutely think that women's basketball should be

641
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: you know, supported and and celebrated, But I don't know.

642
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 6: Stuff like this makes me very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

644
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: Hey, double donkers.

645
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: I saw in the news last week that has Sheen

646
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: the Beat was cut from the fort Wayne mad Ants

647
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: of the G League.

648
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Speaker 1: Has she the Beat?

649
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: This guy's still.

650
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: Hooping in twenty twenty The Mavericks Gotta sign this man.

651
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: It's something you guys thought was gone for good, but

652
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: then you suddenly saw it pop up again out of

653
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Speaker 5: the blue. Happy one hundredth episode, Tom from Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Fanny packs, Yeah they were. They were around for a

655
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Speaker 1: chunk of time and then they were gone forever, it

656
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: felt like, and then suddenly they were back everywhere. So yes,

657
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: they that one. I couldn't believe. Like I remember the

658
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: first time I re saw the fan pack. It was like,

659
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: that's a joke, part of a costume. Okay, you would

660
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: sometimes see it for a Halloween costume maybe, or someone

661
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: going for an eighties party, you know, train party, and

662
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: then it was just back. And now it's like common

663
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: that everybody's got one.

664
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: That I used to rock one all the time.

665
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Well then you should I put it away because it

666
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: was uncool, But now that b back out. Whenever you travel,

667
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: you always have to have the fanny.

668
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Pack, right, fanny pack's great for travel.

669
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: It is. Yeah, the bum bag is weak.

670
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say everybody's giggling in Australia right

671
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: or or in Britain.

672
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: But I actually think they're quite practical.

673
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not getting angry that they're back. It's just like, wow,

674
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: that was wild.

675
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: More like they should have never gone away.

676
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, why did they go away?

677
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 6: Yeah they never did.

678
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: If you ask my dad, Oh yeah, maybe that's it.

679
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: What do you go?

680
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: Well, the macarena.

681
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday on our show because of

682
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: the incident that happened there in the Cleveland dance cam

683
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: where we thought the in arena announcer was calling out

684
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: me as the crowd was doing the macarena, and I'm

685
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: just like, well, yeah, I mean there's the macarena now,

686
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: like mainstream back in in arena music, is it all

687
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: the time? I mean, I've been to a ton of

688
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Hawks games in the last couple of years and I

689
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: don't really remember it. But then again, I'm not sort

690
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: of up, you know, trying.

691
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: To show off you remembers.

692
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, in front of the dance I mean so a

693
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: Despicable three the Minions movie was released in twenty seventeen,

694
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: and I know it's in that because my kids watch it.

695
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: So maybe that sort of triggered it again.

696
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, reinvigorated. Yeah, got it in the Pupil's mine again.

697
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: I tweeted yesterday, I can't believe how many times I

698
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: listened to the makarena today because you were working on

699
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: the video, so just hearing it so many times, so

700
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: many times, And then people tweeted back saying the new

701
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: one or the original, but there's a Tiger song from

702
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen him and jab Balvin somehow incorporating the makarena into,

703
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 5: you know, just a modern song like when Maria Maria

704
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: was in a Rihanna song.

705
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: Or whatever it was. You're right, Lee, the makarena is

706
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: somehow back.

707
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Huh. Hey. We also found out what was going on

708
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: with that Cavs.

709
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: Video, did we? Yeah? Yeah, why do you explain it?

710
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: We were very confused at the time. Why is this

711
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: guy shouting out Lee Ellis for this what appears to

712
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: be just a normal crowd shot. Yeah, there's a man

713
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: in it. He doesn't really look anything like you. And

714
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: then yeah, there's a kid with glasses doesn't really look

715
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: anything like you. Why is he yelling Lelis? But you

716
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: got a response?

717
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I someone sent me. They tagged in the inner

718
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: rain or announcer's name is Calv's a MOD and so

719
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: I just said to him, mate, Calv, I said to Mod,

720
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: my dude, I sent him a fist bump, and he said,

721
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: there was a guy named Lee Elis next to me.

722
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: L ol. It's spelled lbe Lee as in.

723
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: L So he was so hold on, hold on the announcer.

724
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: This might have made it worse and but even cloudy.

725
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Then the announcer he is saying, Hey, I see you

726
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Lee Ellis. He's actually not even responding to the jumble

727
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: tron the video we're seeing of any of those people.

728
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's got his buddy, this guy he

729
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: knows or somebody knows named Lee Ellis. He just he's

730
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: probably laughing because they're dancing guys.

731
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: That's what it sounds like to me.

732
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, wow, So that's why I Also there was

733
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: some confusion over who he was pointing out in the crowd.

734
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: We thought, you know, whether it's the little kid with

735
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: the glasses that looked like me or the older guy

736
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: with the dance moves who didn't look anything like me. Remember,

737
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: some of us thought, no, he's talking about that guy.

738
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: Another thought, no, he's talking about the little kid. So yeah,

739
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: this is another round it to the bottom of.

740
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Us cracked that case. What about you for this one?

741
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 5: The Mighty Ducks are back too, and they got Gordon

742
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: Bombay back, Emilios coming back into the role, gonna be

743
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: tutoring some more kids. I loved the Mighty Ducks series

744
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: D two for me, a top five sports movie of

745
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: all time. I don't think they're gonna be pulling back

746
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: the original cast except for old GB, but I would

747
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: be happy if well, I don't know what was his name,

748
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: Geezer Maine showed up, Connie Moreau, Jesse Hall, the Ogs.

749
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm out there carving it up on the ice.

750
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I guess they brought back the Karate Kid and you

751
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: love that, and now they're bringing.

752
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: Back you should You're right, This is a dumb answer

753
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: for me. You shouldn't be surprised when literally any television

754
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: show comes back.

755
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Now, well, I know I was gonna say, is like, Okay,

756
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: you loved Karate Kid, Lee, they brought it back and

757
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: you and you enjoyed the new series, so it.

758
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: Sounds yeah, it's it's awful what I've enjoyed it?

759
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, now you're a big Ducks fan. They're bringing

760
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: this back. Okay, you're gonna watch it regardless. This gives

761
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: me hope that we're gonna see a RAD two or

762
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: a RAD series. The greatest BMX movie ever made?

763
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: You really want that, though, I mean, isn't it No?

764
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: You're right, Yeah, you're probably right.

765
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Exactly the equivalent of Vince Carter in the dunk contest. Yeah,

766
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't want it. I don't want it, don't don't

767
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: ruin perfection?

768
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 6: But come on, you want an eight episode Disney plus Yeah,

769
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 6: mini series made for today, right, I'd like.

770
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Crew jones Son now yeah, trying to follow in his

771
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: dad's footeps. His dad's like, no, that broke that broke

772
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: me in half. That profession nearly killed me. I'm writing it.

773
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I can just rate it right now, should but then

774
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: hell tracks back, hell track to Heller track and done.

775
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: Finnham could sing on it though again.

776
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we could break the ice some war break

777
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: the ice again? You're still ready to.

778
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: Al right next leon Ah Man, Sup No dunkers.

779
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: They say it's the small things in life that make

780
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: it worth living. I feel the same way about basketball.

781
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: Aside from the big things we all love in basketball,

782
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: kill a, crossovers, dunks, no look, dimes, logo, threes, what

783
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: the small things in basketball that for you never got

784
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: old and make life worth living.

785
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: For me, it's the big man three.

786
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: When you see a giant like Trey Kirby effortlessly to

787
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: the ball from twenty two feet, it's a beautiful thing.

788
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 2: They make it look almost lethargic and easy.

789
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: It gets me every time. Turn up. Love you guys awesome.

790
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: That's from Simon on Stratford upon Avon.

791
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know if you were going Ontario or Connecticut.

792
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: There at that Strafford.

793
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: That's the O G.

794
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Strafford.

795
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Um.

796
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I got three things, small things, I guess you want

797
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: to call them that. We've talked about it before. I

798
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: love a good rebound. Give me a It doesn't need

799
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: to be an offensive rebound. I don't need a Moses.

800
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: Give me a great athletic defensive rebound. I love it.

801
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: I think it looks cool.

802
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 5: Do you need a box out or you want it

803
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 5: to be no, in fact that they're jumping up and over. Yeah,

804
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 5: in fact those are the cooler ones for sure.

805
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's it's the equivalent of donk. Really. I mean

806
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: there was just without putting it through the realm. So

807
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I like that. So we've talked about that before.

808
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 4: I do.

809
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I do like a good being the point guard or

810
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: you know that I am when we play love just

811
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: a beautiful little pocket pass, a little one two action,

812
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: just slip it through that tiny hole right right in

813
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: the bread basket for the big man to finish. Love

814
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: that anytime you see that, and then playing pick up recently,

815
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm really getting old when I know I get a

816
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: kick out of this. I love now setting a great

817
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: pick and it resulting in a basket, and then I

818
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: hilariously always make sure tell out screen assists. Yeah, and

819
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: I specifically love not a pick on the ball, but

820
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: like if you like back pick a guy and then

821
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: it's like kicked over to the corner and it's like

822
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: all because of you, all because you've set up back pick,

823
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: totally cut somebody my surprise, and they splash a corner

824
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: of three. Oh come on, I love that. I like

825
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: seeing it too in the NBA. But I really like

826
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: when you're out there and you said a good pick

827
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: and it feels like, oh yeah, I help make that

828
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: play happen.

829
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: How old are you?

830
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Man.

831
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: I know I'm good rebounding bounce passes and good hard screen.

832
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: I said my last night, and again you heard me

833
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: id jugglers like Marcelle used it. I'm like, you only

834
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: score it gonna be there.

835
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 4: It's so fun, though, you know you've lost a step

836
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 4: and you got to you gotta do the little things.

837
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: You gotta start to know your role, know your role,

838
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm starting to really find it now in

839
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: my pickup runs. What do you guys have though? Small things?

840
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, this summer last summer, when I was out in Australia,

841
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 2: I got to shoot around with Tim Hardaway and Alan

842
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Houston briefly while I shot a couple of features, And

843
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: while the camera was getting set up and we're getting ready.

844
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: I was feeding them the ball.

845
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

846
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: And it's amazing still listening or watching and hearing a

847
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: pro player shoot the basketball. How it just goes through

848
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: the rim.

849
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: It's different.

850
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: And Tim Hardaway and Alan Houston just both of them

851
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: got hot for a while and the ball was just

852
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: like snapping through the net and it's like I've shot

853
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: a million times at some point, you know, you get

854
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: one that does that, you get one.

855
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: But these guys it was just like like they'd never

856
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: left the game, you know, and listening to that sound.

857
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: And then when they get a little bit hot and

858
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: you start firing the ball to them and you can

859
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: see them starting to get into a little rhythm rhythm. Yeah,

860
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: and you know, especially Alan Houston, like he was sort

861
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: of a little reluctant to shoot for some reason at

862
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: the start. But then he started knocking a few down

863
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: and he's like, you give me that ball, Give me

864
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: that ball. It just feels awesome to be like throwing

865
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: a pass to a you know, retired NBA player he's

866
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: knocking it down.

867
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 4: It feels like, sure, you know, I'm getting some die.

868
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Even there's even like did you fall into this this

869
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: this thing where you're like almost like I don't I

870
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: want to get this rebound. Not that I mean it's

871
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: usually splashing through, but you like want to keep that

872
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: rhythm going. Yeah, like you don't want to slow down

873
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: or wait a second. You was like, okay, we just

874
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: got to keep this going. Get this.

875
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: And from being sometimes down at games before the game

876
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: where you see the assistant coaches like really firing the

877
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: ball to players, I start doing that.

878
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

879
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to just like throw it bound and

880
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: they've got to pick it up and shoot it. I

881
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: want them to catch in rhythm and knock it in.

882
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: I want them to think, man, that's some blastoming on

883
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: that past. This guy could have been an assistant.

884
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: Your dream job really would be to be like like

885
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: either a ball boy or yeah, like some sort of

886
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, the rebound of guy.

887
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: You would love it, yeah, because you know, you would

888
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: go through your routine of passing it and then when

889
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: they all go off and you go, oh, time to get.

890
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: Some shuts up.

891
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: You would have been a horrible rebound guy because you

892
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: would have been shooting's like god, you're like, I got

893
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: this one, let me get one up here.

894
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

895
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, even even when I did my feature with Orlando

896
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: Blackman a few years ago, he was in a suit

897
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: and he took his jacket off and he had like,

898
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, pants on, and he's like, you know, business shoes. Well,

899
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: he took his jacket off and he has pants. Yeah,

900
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: but he started knocking the ball in. Then he started

901
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: doing a little stutter step before and I was just like, hey, bro,

902
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: we can shoot all day, but I don't care about

903
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: the feature man, Let's just shoot.

904
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: Where are you?

905
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: One of my favorite things is unfortunately go Extinct. I

906
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 5: love the baseline twelve foot jump shot. Yeah, basically nobody

907
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 5: shoots it anymore. Kirk Goldsberry had a graphic not too

908
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: long ago comparing like top shot locations in two thousand

909
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: and one compared to twenty twenty, And you know, there's

910
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: a whole bunch in the Winnington spot in the eurospot

911
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: if you will, my coach, you just call it the

912
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 5: Russian spot. The Russian spot. Yeah, that's a good one.

913
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 5: But for me, it was always like that's where the

914
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 5: big guys randomly got the ball in the triangle, So

915
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: like Luke Longley had to have a twelve foot or

916
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: Winnington had to have a twelve footer. But nobody shoots

917
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 5: those anymore because if you can make that from the baseline,

918
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: you can probably make it from three in the corner.

919
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 5: So back it up a touch nowadays though, pretty rare. Yeah,

920
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 5: but when you see it, it's like a unicorn. I mean,

921
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 5: people call Kristaps Porzingis the unicorn. But there are so

922
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: many seven footers who can handle the ball and make

923
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: things happen, not as many baseline twelve footers.

924
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, truely, there the true unicorns. Now it's flipped. You're

925
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: right all right, Next one here, high skin of a

926
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: rinky Dinky dunks. In light of Larry Walker's NASCAR SpongeBob

927
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: outfit when he was elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame,

928
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: if there was a chance you were going to be

929
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: elected into the Hall and they were going to live

930
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: stream your reaction, what would you be wearing and where

931
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: would you be? That's from Noah from Burlington, Ontario. Did

932
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: you see what.

933
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: Larry was wearing. I'm just looking at it right.

934
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: It is quite the outfit.

935
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be uh, Nascar SpongeBob is pretty accurate.

936
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it looks like to me and to

937
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Noah there. So yeah, I mean it's like it's a

938
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: man that just does not care what he wears. I mean, sure,

939
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: which is you know, you gotta respect in a weird way.

940
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: You're getting elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame. There

941
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: are cameras there, your entire family's there, and he's like, yeah,

942
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear this SpongeBob jacket. Yeah yeah, but good

943
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: on him. What would you wear? Well, if you knew

944
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: you were going in the hall.

945
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: I'd be on the beach. I think that'd be the

946
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: best place to be.

947
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 2: I'd have my swim shorts on, have a loose fitting

948
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: T shirt on, sunglasses, a hat.

949
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: I'll be sipping on a Chriskenya Peruvian beer. I'll be

950
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: like awesome, and then what jump.

951
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: In the water? Yep? Thanks seeing September. Yeah, I'll loose

952
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: a T shirt. You're very loose, very.

953
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: You know, showing that you just relaxed. You're chilling on

954
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 4: the beach, cool man.

955
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Hall of fame, No big deal to you.

956
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, just another great part of your life on the

957
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: beach with you.

958
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, whatever, okay. I actually I'm laughing at

959
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: your answer. But I wrote down in the pool shirt

960
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: on no shirt off, shut off. There's something hilarious because

961
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: I want to be not miked up. I want them

962
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: to have to boom mic into the middle of the

963
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: pool or I'm just lounging. So it's very solar what

964
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, you're just chilling, all right? Cool there

965
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: to you want guy back to you today?

966
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: Hall of fame to a seatball?

967
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Where are you going though?

968
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: Full orange, dumb and dumber tuxedough by myself at home,

969
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: just me tops and tails, just waiting.

970
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: It's all like gross. It looks like you've been wearing

971
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: it for like ten months, waiting for the call. Uh yeah,

972
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: that would work. That'd be funny for you too. That's

973
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: so that's one of the weirder questions we got.

974
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 4: But I like that one.

975
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: Noah, right, a few more we got here.

976
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: Hey, no, duncan ruz.

977
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: I've heard the recent chatter on the pod about Nate

978
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 5: McMillan and Nick Nurse leading the way for NBA Coach

979
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: of the Year while deserving coaches. But where's the Billy

980
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: Donovan love? Toronto's preseason win total in Vegas forty six

981
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: point five, Indiana's forty seven point five. Okay, see twenty

982
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 5: nine point five. I have all the love in the

983
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: world for Russ, but without the Westbrook offense, we're finally

984
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 5: seeing what Donovan brings to the court as a coach.

985
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 5: My question is this if Okay, so he continues on

986
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: this piece towards the forty five to forty seven win range,

987
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 5: assuming a six ish seed in the playoffs, how could

988
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: it not be Donovan after being projected so low and

989
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 5: off many playoff predictions pre season love the show. That's

990
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 5: from Brandon in Knoxville, Tennessee, making.

991
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: The case where's the Donovan love? There is a lot

992
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: of McMillan and Nurse love. It's not wrong, He's right,

993
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: He's there, He's in the mix, no doubt.

994
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: It's an interesting award, the Coach of the Award Coach

995
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: of the Year award, because I mean, why wouldn't Budenholz

996
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: win it? If the team wins sixty eight games, you know,

997
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: just I'll.

998
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Tell you right now, they went over seventy games.

999
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: I don't see how you can't give coach sixty eight seventy.

1000
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: Is there a big difference there, you know what I mean?

1001
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: And then if you have someone like Donovan, let's say

1002
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: they win forty five, you know or more. You know,

1003
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: is a guy like that going to have win Coach

1004
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: of the Year just because he exceeded expectations.

1005
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: Expectations coming to play with this award, Yeah a lot.

1006
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not wrong. Yeah, Brandon's But.

1007
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: If Frank Vogel is, in my opinion, has exceeded expectations too.

1008
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't think people thought the Lakers were going to

1009
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: be quite as dominant as they paint.

1010
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: The problem with Vogel, the problem with uh in this

1011
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: case Donovan is it's like the best player out there.

1012
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: So in Lebron for the Lakers and then Chris Paul

1013
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: for the Thunder, it's like they're a lot of people

1014
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: are like, well, they're sort of in a weird way.

1015
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: Also the coach is yeah said, it's like they're sure

1016
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: they're obviously Hall of famers, and it's like any coach

1017
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: could probably get them close to the level the r

1018
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree with that, but that's sort

1019
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: of the idea, which I think hurts their chances a

1020
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: little bit, which is why maybe Donovan is sort of yeah,

1021
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: like third or fourth on the list. Like what about

1022
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: Taylor Jenkins with the Grizzliers. I mean, what was their

1023
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Vegas win total? Probably like twenty two to twenty three.

1024
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: They were supposed to be one of the worst teams

1025
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: in the league. Ye, and they're you know, they basically

1026
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: already have that many wins and we're not even at

1027
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: the All Star breaks. So I think those are the

1028
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: four guys. Vogel Sure, maybe they has.

1029
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: To be mixed because it's his first year in LOSTE.

1030
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's those four or five guys.

1031
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: But Donovan's He's going to get some love and probably warranted.

1032
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1033
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 5: And the reason that preseason win total low is so

1034
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 5: low to me is because it's kind of heading into

1035
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: the season, you thought Chris Paul would be traded, Yeah,

1036
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: you know, and I definitely thought that the Thunder team

1037
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 5: would look different halfway through the season, and so far,

1038
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 5: it's been certainly a surprise that the Thunder have been

1039
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 5: better than they are. But there were some people, some

1040
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 5: geniuses amongst us, who picked okay see to make it

1041
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 5: into the playoffs. So it's not completely out of the

1042
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 5: realm of feasibility that the Thunder were going to be good.

1043
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: But they have been better than people assumed. And Donovan

1044
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 5: has done a good job this year.

1045
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: And then I mean the case is for those other leaders,

1046
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: if you want to call that too McMillan. I mean,

1047
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: they don't have their all NBA guy. They just get

1048
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: them back. He's played one game and they're, you know,

1049
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the East. They feel

1050
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: like a threat to, you know, win a playoff series

1051
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: or two. For sure it was with it without all

1052
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: people and a bunch of new pieces. Their turnover that

1053
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: team was crazy, which is why a bunch of idiots

1054
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: sitting here were very low on the Pacers. I'm pointing

1055
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: at Trey and I'm pointing out myself, because we were like,

1056
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: hit the under, hit the under, hit the under, and

1057
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: they're well on their way to maybe hitting that forty

1058
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: seven and a half win mark or over. So that's

1059
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: big plus for him. And then Nick Nurse come on.

1060
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: That team has been ravaged by injuries. I mean, they've

1061
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: almost never had their whole team the Raps. It's it's

1062
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: one of their top five, two of their top five,

1063
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: three of their top five, even more at times they've

1064
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: all been out, and it's all these sort of like

1065
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: no name guys or guys that have barely played. Still

1066
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: getting the Raptors to elite defense, you know, obviously a

1067
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: ton of wins. And he's just such a creative coach

1068
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: as it is too. He's not afraid to try things,

1069
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: and you've seen that positive results in game. So I mean,

1070
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: so I think there's a reason why those guys are

1071
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: sort of one two wherever you have them. But I

1072
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: am I'm with them. I'm like, yeah, Donovan's right there,

1073
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and I think Jenkins right there, and yeah maybe even.

1074
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: They've just got different sort of reasons for being yeah,

1075
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: the best coach.

1076
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: But this is funny. If the Bucks wins seventy games,

1077
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like, how does he not get it? Yeah,

1078
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: it's because it's just but I wonder where that that

1079
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: threshold is. Yeah, like if the Bucks win sixty four games,

1080
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that it's like a given for

1081
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: a Boodenholzer, Right, Yeah.

1082
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why.

1083
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: The big number is certainly going to be the big case,

1084
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 5: if you will, shout out to Tom Haberstrom. But I

1085
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 5: mean that's the whole thing with expectations. We at least

1086
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: expected to be the Bucks to be good, but the

1087
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 5: fact that they're better, I think is probably a little

1088
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 5: bit underrated.

1089
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you.

1090
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: See a seventy in the wim column, it's easier to

1091
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: take note that they've been a great team.

1092
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Coming to the season, everybody's like

1093
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: it's going to be Bucks or six ers. This is

1094
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: the number one seed that was everybody was saying that.

1095
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: So you're right, but not this good running away from

1096
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: the East, All right, come on.

1097
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: Hey, no dunks. I'm a Timberwolves fan in need of

1098
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: some therapy. After the historic loss against the Kings, two

1099
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: double digit losing streaks this season, a team that doesn't

1100
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: seem to gel, and ownership that doesn't get it, I've

1101
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: reached my breaking point. My question is, how do you

1102
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: guys deal when your team is in a massive slump

1103
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: with no signs of improvement in the future. How did

1104
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: you guys deal with dark days of bulls and raps?

1105
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: I've been a fan since KG was drafted, and following

1106
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: this team just isn't fun anymore. That's from Nick sad

1107
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: Nick from Minneapolis.

1108
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: You could feel the pain in this email. They that's

1109
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: the what am I doing? Why am I cheer for

1110
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: this team? Why am I probably giving money to this team? Yeah? Exactly. Ah, man,

1111
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: it's tough, and I've been there. There are a lot

1112
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: of dark days, as he said, as a Raptors fan,

1113
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: a lot a lot. Unfortunately that was the time when

1114
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: I was in Toronto attending a lot of those games.

1115
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: It's still enjoyable because it's live NBA basketball, and then

1116
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: you every every once in a while you get a

1117
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: great Bosh or Barniotti performance or Mike James performance and

1118
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, and they string together a couple

1119
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: of wins, and you can talk yourself into this rookie

1120
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: and this guy they picked up, and oh yeah, we're

1121
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna turn it around next year. You know, it just

1122
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: sucks when it keeps not happening. I get it, Oh yeah,

1123
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: but you know you're gonna stick with it. What are

1124
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: you gonna What are you gonna do? Nick? I mean,

1125
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: let's be honest. So you're just gonna straight up change

1126
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: your allegiance. No, no, no, no, because you know you

1127
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: can't do that because you know eventually at some point

1128
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: they'll turn it around. You want to be there then

1129
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: and then what you can't come back. You can't do that.

1130
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: That is what that's that's a rule if you're leaving

1131
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: the team. Like my dad, huge Buffalo Bills fan, all right,

1132
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: my entire life. So he obviously went through some drastic losses,

1133
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, with the four Super Bowl losses. You know,

1134
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I've wrote a story about this way back in the

1135
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: day for dead Spin. It was like the third Super Bowl,

1136
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: like I'm still like twelve or something, and I'm like

1137
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: making posters go, Bills go, And by halftime he's literally

1138
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: ripped that off the wall, ripped in half, and went

1139
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: to bed because they're getting punked that bad. Like you know,

1140
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: like as a Bills fan, they've seen some super dark

1141
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: days because those are even worse, right being good and

1142
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: never being able to actually get it done in an

1143
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: odd way. So but at some point, the whole point

1144
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: of that story was he's like, all right, I'm done,

1145
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm done with the Bills, and like three, four or

1146
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: five years ago, he's like, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1147
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: che I swear of got I'm gonna.

1148
00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: Cheer for the Chiefs. Now.

1149
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea why he picked the Chefs, but

1150
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: he's like, Chiefs are my team, and so you know,

1151
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: I've told them that you can't come back. You can't

1152
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: like if the Bills go to Super Bowl, you can't

1153
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: go back, you can't from Yeah, if you're making that

1154
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: move on, then that's it. And he's I mean, well,

1155
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: he's happy right now, Chiefs in the super Bowl. We'll see,

1156
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll see how he feels when the Bills win a

1157
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But you just got to ride it out,

1158
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: is the truth. Nick. It's, hey, take a break. You

1159
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: don't have to watch alls. You have to put yourself

1160
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: through hell every second night.

1161
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: Hop on E bay Man. Yeah, get you some NBA jeans,

1162
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 5: Get an NBA jacket, getting NBA hat.

1163
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: Become a fan of the league. I was a Bulls

1164
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: fan obviously.

1165
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: Uh when they were going through the dynasty up through

1166
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety eight and then MJ retired, there was a

1167
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 5: lockout and the balls were terrible. So that's when I

1168
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: started really liking other basketball teams and kind of just

1169
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: you know, the Bulls are still my favorite team. They're

1170
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 5: still gonna I'm still gonna watch them the most, I'm sure.

1171
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 5: But there's a lot more interesting things to be watching

1172
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 5: night in, night out than your team just disappoint you

1173
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: every single evening.

1174
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. But man, when they it all comes

1175
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: together eventually, speaking from experience, yeah, that wraps the way.

1176
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: Like the wait it's something else was one of the happiest,

1177
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, summers of my life, days of my life

1178
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: when they got the title. So you gotta, you gotta

1179
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: ride it out. Unfortunately, that's just what being a fan is.

1180
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: It's stupid to begin with. Man, think about what you're doing.

1181
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Think about what we're doing right now. Think about what

1182
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: you're doing listening to us doing this right now. It's

1183
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: all stupid, But it's fine.

1184
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 5: I'm just sitting here wearing a full dumb and dumber

1185
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 5: TUXI feels stupid.

1186
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: Thanks for the email, Nikki, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta get.

1187
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: It off your chest too. That's fine, all right, one

1188
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: more then we'll wrap it up here. How do you

1189
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: know Dunksters Big Milwaukee Bucks slash no Dunks fan. I

1190
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: have a horrible track record of buying into the hype

1191
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: of some of the NBA's bus Being a North Carolina fan,

1192
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: I had a busy period from the twenty twelve draft

1193
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: where I told anyone in everyone watch out for John Henson,

1194
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the six' ten big man is a future Defensive player

1195
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: of The year and possibly league leader in rebounds for

1196
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: years to.

1197
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: Come, well let me interject, Here John henson has also

1198
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: thrown me off to. You you see him have some

1199
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: like massive double. Doubles you're, like Who he's got that long.

1200
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Of, arms that sweet touch with the left.

1201
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: Hand he could be a real. Player if you go.

1202
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Back and listen to some old, podcasts we definitely were

1203
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: showing Some John henson. LOVE i remember those. Two i'm

1204
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: just as guilty he goes under. Right remember Mixtape Thon,

1205
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: WELL i was probably one of those only few people

1206
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: to purchase A Thon maker custom jersey and Followed Kevin

1207
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: garnett in outrageous claims of possible multiple Defensive player of

1208
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: the years and MVPs for the high school. Prodigy i've

1209
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: similarly felt for the hype for players Like Jimmer, Furredette Elfred,

1210
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Peyton thomas San, uranski And canadian Sniper Nick. Stauskis my

1211
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: question for you is when have you put all your

1212
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: eggs in one basket only to have an empty basket

1213
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: and one hundred and ten dollars Custom thon maker jersey

1214
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: to show for. It that is From, ben all the

1215
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: way From. France, wow he was buying into the hype

1216
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: all the way over. There, yeah it happens to the

1217
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: best of.

1218
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: Us you.

1219
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: Know my infamous one Is jason Maxiel, yeah you know

1220
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: that's a long time. Ago on a, PODCAST i said

1221
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: he would make An All star game For Danny. Granger

1222
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: everybody knows, this, uh AND i was.

1223
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: WRONG i was From paris That.

1224
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: YEAH i know it's, very very, weird BUT i saw

1225
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 1: a lot of potential In Jason, maxiell saw good. THINGS

1226
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: i left the way he, Played but so that's one for.

1227
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Me i'm always buying his jersey for crying out. LOUD i,

1228
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: mean that's the next.

1229
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: Level maybe A detroit Bad BOY'S t. Shirt, YEAH i

1230
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 5: was dunking on everybody when he came into the. League

1231
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 5: my answer For ben is almost could actually be an

1232
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: answer For, nick our previous. Emailer all my eggs are

1233
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 5: in The bulls making the playoffs. Basket this chase for

1234
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: the eight, seed to, me is equivalent to The balls

1235
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 5: going for title number.

1236
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: Seven so like every, Night i'm, like this is the.

1237
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: One oh we're getting on the.

1238
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: Upswing you were freaking out when we were driving home

1239
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: from ball last. Night what's the bull? Score what's the bull?

1240
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: Score they pull it?

1241
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: Off they get it?

1242
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: DONE i don't think, So yeah they.

1243
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 3: Didn't you're. Invested, yeah ALL i need to.

1244
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 5: See ALL i need to see is one sweet playoff

1245
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 5: appearance From Zach lavine And i'll be on cloud.

1246
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: Night what do you got during the dark, season the lockout,

1247
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: season the sixty six game, SEASON i saw a player

1248
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: for The Charlotte bobcats put up thirty one and fourteen one,

1249
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: night knocked in a three or Two.

1250
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: Walter, no he's a big.

1251
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: Guy he's a big.

1252
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: Guy he's the seven foot AND i, thought this, guy you,

1253
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: know he just needs to get an. OPPORTUNITY i THINK

1254
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: i even picked him For Most improved for the twelfth

1255
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: Season Byron.

1256
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: Mellins oh my, god you picked him for the most,

1257
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: improved your, raid thank. YOU i can picture his grout

1258
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: like his face on a graphic and, look he had.

1259
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: A couple of games, there a couple of double doubles

1260
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 4: that a couple of big nights he hit.

1261
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: Five threes at twenty seven points one. NIGHT i had

1262
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: to double double a couple of. Times AND i remember

1263
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: during that season a lot of people when he would

1264
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: have his good. Games he had twenty five and eighteen

1265
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: in one game with four. Threes people tweet, Me Byron,

1266
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: MULLINS i, KNOW i, know, man this guy's going to do.

1267
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: It, yeah, well what? Happened he bounced around a little

1268
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 4: bit in the league that he didn't last all that.

1269
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: LONG i don't know where he is these.

1270
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: Days did you prefer when he Was Byron mullins OR BJ.

1271
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: Pj for, sure we will love a GOOD.

1272
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: Bj apparently he's In japan plan for a team Called Lavanga. Okado,

1273
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: okay so we're still still making it. HAPPEN i guess he's.

1274
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: Young enough then he could maybe pick get picked up

1275
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: on a ten day by.

1276
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: Someone how old is? HE i, mean in my, head,

1277
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: okay before you tell, Me i'm not looking in my

1278
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: head that man is thirty five years. Old but there's

1279
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: no way he's going to be that. Old.

1280
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: Right he will be thirty, one okay next.

1281
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: Month, yeah so that's he's got five years still to

1282
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: back find is why do AN nba Rust.

1283
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Maybe The mavericks were looking at him AFTER i, KNOW i,

1284
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: know but they obviously went and traded For willy Cally.

1285
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Stime maybe they were thinking about mulletins over there In.

1286
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: JAPAN i really. Know i'd like to see what he looks.

1287
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: Like now you got a photo you can show.

1288
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 4: Me he had a great.

1289
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: Look he's On.

1290
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: Twitter he's just he's just on the.

1291
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Ground he sort of just looked, like, uh he looked

1292
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: like he Knew Adam, morrison good friends With Adam. Harrison

1293
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: that's the only WAY i could explain.

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Speaker 1: Beardie. Byron All, right, guys great, questions awesome. Around keep

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Speaker 1: them coming as, Always no dunks at The athletic Dot

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Speaker 1: No Dunks. Inc or use that hashtag no. Dunks we'll

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Speaker 1: have a whole new batch of questions and comments to

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Speaker 1: get to next week when we go beach. Stepping so

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Speaker 1: keep them coming all week.

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Speaker 4: Long every, day.

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Speaker 1: And and you happy every.

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Speaker 6: Minute it's been so long that you're the one.

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Speaker 1: A wait before.

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Speaker 4: It's. Happened already

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