1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's kro. 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 4: And Each week on Beyond Contact, we'll explore the latest 13 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: news in ufology, discuss some of the classic cases, and 14 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 4: bring you the latest information. 15 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 3: From the newest cases as we talk with the top experts. 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am 17 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 4: Captain Ron and today we'll be speaking with my friend 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 4: Richard Martini. Rich is a writer, director, author, and an 19 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: award winning filmmaker who has written or directed eight theatrical 20 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: features in a number of documentaries. He has also examined 21 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: near death experiences and compares their accounts to similar ones 22 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: during between life sessions. This is the technique used by 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Michael Newton that allows people to access between lives realms. 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 4: He has been filming and recording interviews with people talking 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: to people who are backstage or off stage, as he 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: puts it, via hypnotherapy, mediumship, or guided meditations. He's compiled 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: many of these accounts in his latest book, Close Encounters 28 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: of the Flip side by Richard Martini, this should be 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: a different sort of show for Beyond Contact, but certainly 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: an interesting one. Richard, I'm talking about why you're on 31 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: a UFO show. It's an incredibly difficult idea to digest 32 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: that not only can many of these different beings that 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: we interact with be humans, but they could be different 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 4: alien life forms. In fact, we could incarnate as different beings. Correct, 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: that's correct. 36 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: I've been doing this since two thousand and eight and 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: so I can remember. At one point a woman was 38 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: talking about seeing that she had a previous lifetime on 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 5: another planet. And the more I asked her about it, 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 5: It's in the book Architecture of the Afterlife, she realized 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: that she's concurrently living. She's only got let's say, twenty 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: percent of her conscious energy here and there's like forty 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: percent on another planet where she's a science officer. And 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: I said to how long did those people live? She said, 45 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 5: that's a four hundred earth yer lifespan. She said, so 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 5: I've already had a number of lifetimes on Earth. I'm learning. 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: I'm helping helping people on the planet to shift conscioussiness. 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 5: Going back to the book Flip Side, there was a 49 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: guy who normally, he said under hypnosis, I normally incarnate 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: on this other planet, and he describes it. He describes 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: the intelligence, so listen. That goes into the question, which 52 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: is what are you doing here? Why are aliens coming here? 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: Two answers that I've got. One is there's a pretty 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: cool interview in Close Encounters of the flip Side kind 55 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 5: with Simon Bowen where he accesses one of the gray 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 5: aliens who has come to collect DNA. It's an incident 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: I didn't know about. And I asked this gray person, 58 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: who are you? And basically what we got from him? 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: He said he was artificial intelligence, that he was created 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: by a group of people, and that his purpose and 61 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: job is to collect DNA to help other civilizations in 62 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 5: other realms. And I said, why would you do that, 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: because that's really annoying because people haven't given you permission, 64 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: and he said, well, yes they have. The people that 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 5: we can collect DNA from we've known from previous lifetimes. 66 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: They've agreed to do this. And then he said, have 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: you ever donated blood to the Red Cross? And I said, yeah, 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: I have. He said, well, it's no different. These people 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: agreed to donate genetic material so that it could be 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 5: used in other places in the universe, so that life 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: could continue on. And because of the consciousness thing of 72 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: how it works, I mean, it's not that disturbing to 73 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: realize that if you're you were going to have a child, 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: but that child exists somewhere else and you're going to 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: see them again. One of the unusual conversations we had 76 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 5: was with Stephen Hawking, because you know, why not let's 77 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 5: talk to Stephen Hawking. And on the flip side, I said, so, Stephen, 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 5: you wrote a piece about being aware of or afraid 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 5: of aliens and his answer was, Richard, we're all aliens 80 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 5: because we all choose to incarnate on the planet, so 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: that takes the word alien out of the mix. 82 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: We don't have terms for any of these words. That's 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: the thing we don't really know. 84 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 5: You mentioned it non intelligent or non intelligence. And so 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: like when I meet people on councils, they're usually higher thinkers. 86 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: There are people who you know, they serve on a 87 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: council as like an advocate and they help people. And 88 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 5: so when you're asking them a question and they look 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: like a rhino man, or they look like a leprechaun, 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: or they look like a birdman, or they look like 91 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: an insect of some kind, or a gray or whatever 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 5: whoever you see, I haven't seen any grace on there. 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: They appear to be like robots or ai and they 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: that's their job. But let's just say, when you're talking 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 5: to somebody on a council, you can be pretty well 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: assured that they're not only smarter than whatever question I'm 97 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: about to ask them, but they can give it to 98 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: us in a context that I can't really comprehend that 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 5: idea of They've looked over all of this person's lifetime. 100 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: Who is seeing them and they represent some quality, some 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 5: human quality of courage or selflessness, loyalty, history flow. Oh 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 5: I heard yesterday somebody said they this person representative flow 103 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 5: like a river flowing like the flowing of conscious energy. 104 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: So I listen. I know it sounds disconcerting for people 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: because we were so used to the term alien as 106 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: what it is. But like you say, I stumbled upon it. 107 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: I wasn't looking for it. It just started to show 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 5: up and appear. And I realized, I'm judging that by 109 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: calling it a word or putting it aside. If I 110 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: just asked questions, you can get objective data from subjective 111 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: experiences if you asked the same question. 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: I love that. 113 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: Hey, continuing on this path about UFOs, I really liked 114 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: how your new book, Close Encounters are the flip side kind. 115 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: You also studied the work of John Mack, who's legendary 116 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: in our field. What stood on for you in his work? 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: I knew about his work, and I had read his work, 118 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: and I remember hearing that he had to recount it 119 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: or something along those lines, but I really wasn't aware 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 5: of it. And so it was because in this book 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: I interviewed Jay ellen Heinik, which is Paul Heineg's dad, 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 5: and as I point out, the head unusual experience of 123 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 5: he was my science mentor when I was in seventh grade. 124 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: He was over at Northwestern University. I was in North Perk. 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: That is a funny, serendipitous thing, right, And I didn't 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: know that. My advisor in school was Jay Allen Heineck. 127 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 5: You know my State Science Fair which I won the 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 5: state Science Fair with his help. But I didn't know 129 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: who he was. I just thought he was this kind 130 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: of weird scientist with a pipe. And then subsequently I 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: realized who he is is that we did an interview. 132 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: So I take my stuff to Jennifer and I said, Jennifer, 133 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: let's do this interview. Then I did an interview with 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: Paul Heinich. We did a guide of meditation, and he 135 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: brought his father for it. So I can compare what 136 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: Jennifer has him saying and what Paul has him saying, 137 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: you see. And so when they say the same things 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: that I was annoying and I asked too many questions, 139 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 5: I know, I'm probably talking to the same guy. But 140 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: when it came to John Mack, because I had read 141 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: so much about his work, I thought, well, here's a 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: perfect opportunity to speak to somebody i've never met. I 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: don't know him. I was aware of the circumstances of 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: his journey, and I took that to Jennifer, and in 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: Jennifer's case, like I say, I don't say names, I 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: just say the first name. I want to talk to 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: somebody named John. Is he available? And does John know 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: what I want to ask him? And so within that context, 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: I was able to compare what John said in the 150 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 5: interview with him was what he said in many interviews 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: in print. Make that contrast and comparison. 152 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: It's really interesting. I think John Maxuff's incredible, but you 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: said that there were parts of that that you almost 154 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: wish he knew about this. 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: Work because he was doing hypnosis. He used hypnosis for 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: some of the cases. It was so controversial for him 157 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: in his career at Harvard because people that would come 158 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: in and talk to him about being abducted and then 159 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: they would have anomalies on their body, like here's like 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: it looks like it was cut out, and so he 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: would do a hypnosis session and they would access what happened. 162 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: So in my questions, I say, well, let me ask 163 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: you did this happen or is this the etheric body 164 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: we're talking about? And in almost every case they would 165 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: say that their body would stay in the bed, but 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: they're a theoric body that the consciousness that is down 167 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: on the planet, you know, percentage a percentage of that 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 5: would go up into the spacecraft. 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: Well, there you go. 170 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: So even if we filled someone who claims to have 171 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: alien abductions, they wouldn't leave the bed physically, we would 172 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: never see them leave because it's not really their physical 173 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: body leaving. 174 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 5: It's consciousness. 175 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, consciousness. 176 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: But then the question is, well, and I'm asking, I'm 177 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: asking gray alien, how do they get scars on them 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: that exactly how do you get scars? And what they 179 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: discovered in doing the scientific research of those scars and 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: the implants and stuff like that, they were all human based. 181 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 5: They're all carbon based. There was nothing that was you know, 182 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 5: so even though they injected something, let's say, so now 183 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: the question is are you injecting something consciously? And that's 184 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: what they're saying, and why are they doing it? It's 185 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 5: because humans have to get to a point where they 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: realize we can communicate telepathic, and what the aliens are 187 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: doing is talking to us telepathically. The Grays are not 188 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,359 Speaker 5: the best people to ask this too, because they're AI. 189 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 5: But the people that are on councils that have a 190 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: much higher sort of awareness of what they're doing there. 191 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: Those are the people who can really get into the 192 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 5: weeds about why is it important for us to understand 193 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 5: telepathy and how is telepathy something that's going to help 194 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: us shift consciousness into the future. 195 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: That's very interesting because we often hear in these accounts 196 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: that the Grays didn't seem like living entities, that they 197 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: seemed not pollogic, that they could be, you know, mechanical 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: or drone or some sort of being. 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That's Coast to coastam dot com. 225 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Richard Martini. 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: Richard, let me see if I can get this right. 227 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: How is the thirty percent of your life force that's 228 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: chosen to incarnate with your soul group on this planet 229 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: doing well. 230 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: First of all, let me say that the thirty percent 231 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: that's here roughly loves being on the air with Ron. 232 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 5: Captain Ron what a treat. But in terms of the question, 233 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 5: what people report is that we exist prior to incarnation 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 5: and that we plan our lifetimes with a consortium of people, guides, teachers, councilmembers, 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: and then when we get here we only bring roughly 236 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: between twenty and forty percent on average of our conscious 237 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: energy to a lifetime. Like the word soul. I don't 238 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 5: use that. I use conscious energy. But still so you 239 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: have to wonder if let's say a third of who 240 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 5: I am is here the heck is the rest of 241 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: me doing playing Tiddley wings? Well, well, the world's going 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: to heck in a handbasket. The question really is can 243 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: you access that persona that's not on the stage. By 244 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 5: going through some studies of scientists, like University of Virginia 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: doctor Grayson's book After covers filters on the brain that 246 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: block information that's not conduced or just survival. And if 247 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: you think about the filters on the brain, it's like 248 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: a stereo receiver on your board. There you've got filters 249 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: and limiters, the knockout radio bands and different airwaves, and 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 5: you just focus on the stuff that's important. Well, the 251 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: brain works the same way like a receiver. We're not 252 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: aware of previous lifetimes, we're not aware of other dimensions 253 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: in aliens. Let's just use that term. If they're going 254 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: to show up and talk to us, they know how 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: to manipulate those filters so we're not aware of them 256 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: being here, or if they're allowing us to be aware 257 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: of it's almost like they've dropped the filters a little bit. 258 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 5: What are some examples of filters hallucinogens Like our friends 259 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: who could do DMT and LSD, they're bypassing of filters 260 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: to vivid dreams, near death experiences, out of body experiences. 261 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: And in my case, I've been focusing on hypnotherapy. So 262 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: after four to six hours of just calming somebody down, 263 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: it's like it allows the filters to drop. It's like 264 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: you're in a dream. 265 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: Stay. 266 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: But I've also learned that guide of Meditation does the 267 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 5: same thing. The Last Book of Divine Councilors in the Afterlife. 268 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: I've done it with twenty scientists, clergy doctors, all doing 269 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 5: a simple guided meditation, and I had all of them 270 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: try this technique. I wasn't sure how many would be 271 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: able to, but all of them were. Well, you know, 272 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: we talk about paranormal and you know parapsychology. The norm 273 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: in terms of my study of twenty scientists, the norm 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: one hundred percent. They all were able to access this information, 275 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: so it would be paranormal to say that they could not, 276 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 5: or that anyone could not. 277 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: Why don't you back up, though, for those of us 278 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: who don't know about this whole thing, Can you give 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: an overview of what Michael Newton and now you and 280 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 4: others have studied regarding our consciousness surviving death the way 281 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: you guys frame it, I think the analogy of the stage. 282 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: If you could explain that, I think. 283 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: Is really good to give people a basis of what 284 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: we're talking about. 285 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: Michael Newton was a hypnotherapist in Los Angeles in the 286 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: fifties and sixties. Did not believe in an afterlife, but 287 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: had a client come in who had a psychosomatic illness. 288 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 5: The doctors couldn't figure out what his problem was. Under hypnosis, 289 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: Michael told him to go to the source of your pain. 290 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: He recalled dying in World War One. Newton took all 291 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: the notes as a skeptic, would set him off to 292 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: the British War Office and was surprised when they sent 293 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: him back and said, this guy did exist. This was 294 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 5: his mother's maiden name, et cetera, et cetera, and so 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: that opened up his practice. Now, I've talked to scientists 296 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: at the University of Virginia who have turned me on 297 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: to the idea that hypnosis isn't like a valid tool 298 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: of science. That's the way they consider it because bias, 299 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: people want to have a past life, et cetera. Scientist 300 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 5: like doctor Helen Wamba, who ten years before Michael Newton 301 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: was working, she had the exact same results, but she 302 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 5: eliminated bias in her clinical case studies. For example, she 303 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: would have people choose what era that they wanted to explore, 304 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: and then she would ask detailed questions about the climate, 305 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 5: about clothing, about the cutlery. Every country has a date 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: when forks went from two prongs to three prongs, but 307 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: nobody's aware of it. So she could compare that with 308 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 5: historical records, and that way you get some kind of 309 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: sense of what people are saying. And then she also 310 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: cataloged it as data, the same way that doctor Grayson 311 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: does with near death experiences. So I'll give you one factoid, 312 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: one unusual one, which is she said that in her 313 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 5: twenty seven to fifty cases, all of them could not 314 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 5: recall coming into the mother's womb conscious energy going from 315 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: home into the womb until the sixth month zero. People 316 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: don't even show up in the body until the first trimester. 317 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 5: Now that's not my opinion, that's not my theory, that's 318 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: not my belief, and I understand that upsets people to 319 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: hear it, but that is what people report, And so 320 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: I said that, you know, the best way I can 321 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: describe it for me from my terminology is we're all 322 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: backstage before we've decided to do the play, and we 323 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 5: work in detail what the play is going to be 324 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 5: and what we're going to roll is going to be 325 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 5: within the play, and people volunteer to play roles, and 326 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 5: we can turn them down and say, you know what, 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 5: I really don't like what you did to me in 328 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: the Viking era. I really don't want you to play 329 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 5: that role. You can be the bus driver who runs 330 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 5: me over. We work out the roles in detail. It's 331 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: not set in stone. It's more like an improv where 332 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 5: they hand you a three y five card before you 333 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: go on stage, and you just have basically you're going 334 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: to meet this person, but you have to work it out. 335 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: And so while you're there on stage, a larger portion 336 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: of your conscious energy is off stage you want to say, 337 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 5: it's in the theater. It's up in the upper deck 338 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 5: watching you on stage and saying, wait a minute, watch this. 339 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 5: This is going to be hilarious. Now it's going to 340 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 5: get interesting. We don't see that because of these filters 341 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: on the brain. So as an actor, and of course 342 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 5: a good actor is really well invested in their role. 343 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: And so the whole idea of a theatrical thing is 344 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 5: when people and the play is over, the curtain falls, 345 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: we drop the props and costumes, and we take our 346 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 5: conscious energy and return home. That's what people report. 347 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: And home, so the backstage is sort of the real reality. 348 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: That's where our higher selves live, where sixty to eighty 349 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: percent of our conscious energy stays. And these earth lives, 350 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: for example, are just when we're acting out these little 351 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 4: short lived lives. But our real ongoing soul or stays 352 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: backstage as you call it, right. 353 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: That's right, back home as I call it, And a. 354 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: Lot of people do use that word home. 355 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: Home is an interesting thing that comes up frequently in 356 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: this work that they want to go home, especially when 357 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: they die, They want to go home. And home is 358 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: that backstage area we're talking about. The element I do 359 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 4: like about this field of study is that there is 360 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: a lot of data based on thousands and thousands of cases. 361 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: There are certain hallmarks, right, can you speak to the 362 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: sort of data that you get from Michael Newton and 363 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: doctor Grayson and some others who have studied this. 364 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 5: Doctor Grayson did a talk recently it's called Things I 365 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: Left Out of the Book After where he talks about 366 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: fifteen percent of the near death experience case studies report 367 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: seeing Jesus for example, Chase you wonder like, is he 368 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: wearing a name tag? How do they know that? But 369 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: he also pointed out that eighty five percent report and 370 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: experience with Source or God because they talk about this 371 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: indescribable joy, unconditional love, and non judgmental acceptance. In my case, 372 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 5: I started filming people back in two thousand and eight, 373 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 5: I think, and I've filmed two hundred people, so I've 374 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 5: done one hundred hypnotherapy sessions four to six hours. They're 375 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: in the films hacking the afterlife and et cetera. And 376 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: then I started doing another one hundred guided meditations just 377 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: to see could people access the same information they are 378 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: subjective experiences? Oh I died, something happened et cetera. But 379 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: if you ask everybody the same questions and they named 380 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: the scale after Grayson, of those questions, seventy percent of 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: people who have a near death experience experienced something, One 382 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: to three percent experience something negative, something hillacious or scary. 383 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: Thirty percent don't experience anything. But that doesn't mean something 384 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 5: didn't happen. It just means you can't access it. 385 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more about 386 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: this with Richard, and we're going to talk about our 387 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: council people that kind of our guides that help us 388 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: throw our life, and then the ones that we see 389 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: when we die. Typically people have a review and we'll 390 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: talk about that next when we come back with Richard Martini. 391 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 392 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 393 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: The Artbelvault never disappoints classic audio at your fingertips. 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Richard, based on the data that 411 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: you've called through of studying cases of near death experiences 412 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: and doing hypnotic regressions with people, it seems like one 413 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: of the main hallmarks of this area is our council. 414 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: That it seems like people tend to have a group 415 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: of ten to twenty beings who watch over us, help 416 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: guide us through our lives, and then when we die, 417 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: we have a life review. With this council. They each 418 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: seem to have particular areas of focus, let's say, courage 419 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: or love or whatever. Almost like that movie picks our 420 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: movie inside out, Like they're really hard of these people 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: that are our council, and each of them have sort 422 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: of a little responsibility or an area to help us with. 423 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a fascinating topic. I mean, I've I 424 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: just saw the other day that somebody had written a 425 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 5: book about talking to the divine council. And if you 426 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: look at religious dogma throughout history, they all refer to councils. 427 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 5: If you even look up the term divine council in Wikipedia, 428 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: you'll find every religion from the Greeks on where they 429 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: would talk about a council. Well, as it turns out, 430 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: and Newton called them the wisdom makers. But I mean, 431 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: generally everybody has a group and it's anywhere from three 432 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: to about fifteen, sometimes twenty people, and when you access them, 433 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: they may not all show up. Partially it's because they're busy, 434 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: they're two and other things, and sometimes it's because they 435 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: don't want you to know this information yet. 436 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: Well, they also serve on other councils. 437 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes they also serve another exactly, and sometimes they serve 438 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: a different role on different councils because I always ask. 439 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: So basically it's this, I suggest to someone, let's go 440 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: visit your council, and I ask them are we inside 441 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: or outside? And then they describe where that is, and 442 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 5: then I ask how many people are here? And then 443 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 5: I ask can we talk to them? And I go 444 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: to the first person on the far left and I 445 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: ask them if I have their permission. I also ask 446 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: this question, are you familiar with what I'm doing? Because 447 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: that helps me to understand what I'm going to ask next. 448 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 5: Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. And sometimes I'll 449 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 5: go through a council where like two or three people 450 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 5: are like, no, no idea, who you are. We don't 451 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: know why you're asking these questions. And then the next 452 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 5: person does, yes, Richard Very, I'm familiar with you, and 453 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: I applaud what you're doing. The point is is that 454 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: we have these councils that are not judges. Even though 455 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 5: I call the subtitle of the book Divine Councils in 456 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: the Afterlife the flip side Court. That's what people are 457 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: worried about. You know what it feels like that injury 458 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: So Okay, you're going to court. They're going to do 459 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: a life review where you experience it's all the negative 460 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: things you've done firsthand. So all those ants you stomped on, 461 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 5: you're going to experience. Well, not ants, but let's just say, 462 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: all the people that you've harmed in your lifetime, the 463 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: ones you made cry, they're going to be there as 464 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 5: well as your guides, and you were going to experience 465 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: that from their point of view. Doctor Kenneth Ring has 466 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 5: a wonderful account of a guy in his life review 467 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 5: seeing that he was punching some guy in the street. 468 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: Except when he saw that incident, he was the guy 469 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 5: being punched, and he was watching it from above, and 470 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: he felt, as he said, all the pain and humiliation 471 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: that he caused that guy happened firsthand. David Bennett's book 472 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: Voyage of Purpose, he's been studied quite a bit by 473 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: University of Virginia. Wonderful book his near death experience. He 474 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: also tells that story in Hacking the Afterlife, the film, 475 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: but it's where he talks about two things. One is 476 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: a negative thing that happened in a bar fight in Texas. 477 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 5: But in the bar fight memory, he's the guy getting 478 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 5: beaten up and experiencing that humiliation. But the other thing 479 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: was interesting. It was a random incident in his life 480 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: where he had gone out of his way to help 481 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 5: this little old lady who was a cranky person, and 482 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: he got her to laugh and smile, and they showed 483 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: him how that selfless act of joy changed her life, 484 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 5: changed your children's lives, and rippled out like you know, 485 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 5: like a ripple through a lake, through on into the ocean. 486 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 5: How many lives were changed by a single selfless act. 487 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: That is though, Richard, Also, when you come there, even 488 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 4: if you were you had an awful life, let's say 489 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: you were Hitler or whatever, some negative person, when you 490 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 4: go back to stage again, it's okay. 491 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: All that gets washed away, right. 492 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 5: You know, when it comes to the Adolph question, there 493 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: are people who've caused mayhem an harassment. In Michael Newton's work, 494 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: he talked about some people being isolated because they've been 495 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 5: given a chance many times to come back to the planet, 496 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: but all they do is create chaos, and so they 497 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: voluntarily go to a place that's temple of isolation. 498 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 499 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: So they go to a place where they think about 500 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: all the people they've harmed and they go through that. 501 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: You know, this topic comes up quite a bit because 502 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 5: of course we're so used to thinking of justice and 503 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: judgment and rock being examined it. So Jennifer Schaefer and 504 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 5: I were talking about it, and if you look on 505 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 5: our website, on our podcast Hacking the Afterlife, just look 506 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: up Genghis Khan. She said, there's a guy here who 507 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: says he's Genghis Khan. And I was like, what the 508 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: heck does he want? 509 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: Now? 510 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: This is a guy responsible for forty million deaths. He 511 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 5: makes all those despots like pale, and so I asked 512 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 5: him what was it like? What was your life review like? 513 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: And he said it was awful because he experienced all 514 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 5: the trauma that he had caused. And then I said, 515 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: have you worked that out? He said, well, I've had 516 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: many lifetimes since trying to work out that. And he said, 517 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 5: even one lifetime as a monk where I thought that 518 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 5: would work, but that didn't work either. And then he 519 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: had other lifetimes where you know, wound up in a 520 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: prisoner of war camp and all the things that he 521 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 5: did to other people happen to him. The idea that 522 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: we work these things out, but still he has a 523 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: sense of humor. You see he is now. Of course, 524 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: he died in twelve seventy seven. Like I say, time 525 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: is a little different, but he's able to come forward 526 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 5: and observe that you learn these things. And that's a 527 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: very difficult part of the research. It's in the film 528 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 5: Flip Side. The very first person I interviewed was a 529 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 5: woman who passed away in the Holocaust. She experienced talking 530 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: to her guides and going back to her council and saying, 531 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: why why did I have such a terrible journey? And 532 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: they showed her a couple of things. One that all 533 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: the people she lost in that lifetime are with her 534 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: now in different roles. She said, Oh, this is going 535 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: to be hard to say, but it was harder to 536 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 5: choose to play the role of a perpetrator than a 537 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 5: victim in that lifetime because it affects them over many lifetimes. 538 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 5: And in my case, she said, I learned intensive lessons. 539 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 5: And like you said, each guide has a certain quality 540 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: in selfless or courage or loyalty and working out those details. 541 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 5: And so somebody who goes through an incredible trauma may 542 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 5: get a bunch of council members out of that experience. 543 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: I had one person say, Earth is like the show, 544 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: like the Big Game. This is where you come and 545 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: you can experience. You can learn more about spiritual matters 546 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 5: and one day of trauma than you can in five 547 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 5: hundred years on some boring planet. Wow. And that's another thing, 548 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 5: you know. Thirty five percent of the reports from the 549 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: Newton Institute include people remembering lifetimes on other planets. We 550 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: have to throw that into the mix as well, which 551 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: is trauma here is pad is trauma in another dimension? 552 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: It appears to be, so appears Earth. Because of its 553 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: polarity positive negative, we experience things in a very visceral way, 554 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: whereas on other planets. We've talked to people like that, 555 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: especially in councils. Sometimes I'm going along the council and 556 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: remember I said, person on the far left, you keep 557 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: going down, and they'll say, oh, this is an alien 558 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: and then I'll ask them to describe it. And there's 559 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: many different variations. And I'll ask this person and I'll say, 560 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: have you ever incarnated on Earth? And one guy said, 561 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 5: I wouldn't stoop so low, meaning it's too much drama, 562 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: it's too much the warrior planet. Even for him, it 563 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 5: was like man, I prefer being on a council. 564 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: Amazing. 565 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: Hey, Richard, you also spoke about cases where people spoke 566 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: about these floating fractals that each contain a memory. Again, 567 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: that's very much like the film Inside Out, where each 568 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: memory stored in a marble. 569 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 5: Well, it actually happened in the second person that I filmed, 570 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: and she said, I'm seeing these geometric shapes sort of 571 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 5: zipping around. And by the time I got to use 572 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 5: guided meditation, I could say, well, let's freeze one and 573 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: let's open it up. 574 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: What is it? 575 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 5: And what people would say? And I've had the experience 576 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: myself doing a hypnotherapy session examining these fractals that carry 577 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: all of the information from all of our lifetimes and 578 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: are like volumes in the Akashak life library. So it's 579 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 5: like you could pull out a volume from an Akashak 580 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: librarian and say, can I look at my previous live 581 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 5: deck and it might be in a geometric shape, and 582 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 5: they travel around with us, you know, people see those 583 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: circles flying all through the air all the time. Those 584 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: two could be a little piece of the overall information. 585 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: Interesting. 586 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: When we come back, We're going to talk more with 587 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: Richard about this and how it ties into the UFO phenomenon. 588 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to Beyond Contact right here on the iHeartRadio 589 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 590 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: The Internet is an extraordinary resource that links our children 591 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: to a world of information, experiences, and ideas. It can 592 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: also expose them to risk. Teach your children the basic 593 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: safety rules of the virtual world. 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Richard, 604 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't it be fair to say that, after all of 605 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: this research on what happens when we die, that we 606 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 4: probably shouldn't necessarily be praying to God per se as 607 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: we are all part of God or part of Source, 608 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: but perhaps would be more valuable or more accurate to 609 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: pray to or simply talk to our counsels when we 610 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: need guidance on this planet. 611 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 5: Two things come to mind. One is I've asked counsels like, 612 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 5: are you guys tethered to us? And they've said, for 613 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 5: the most part, yes, meaning they're always connected to us. 614 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: So these higher beings are tethered so that we can 615 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: ask them. And I say, well, why don't people ask them? 616 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: People will say they just aren't aware that they can, 617 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: you know, and part. 618 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: Of the same lifetime or just this one lifetime. They're 619 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: tethered to us. 620 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 5: They're always tethered to us, but they've been overseeing us 621 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: for all our lives. The guide is basically tethered to us. 622 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: But of course I've discovered that guides have more than 623 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: one person that they'd watch over, so they could be busy, 624 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: which is kind of disconcerting to think about. All right, 625 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 5: But there's this secondary part of your question, which was 626 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 5: the G word. I ended up interviewing a skeptic who 627 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: wanted to ask the question what or who is God. 628 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 5: We asked the question to an Acasac library, but the 629 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: librarian said, was God is beyond the capacity of the 630 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: human brain to comprehend it's just too much information for 631 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 5: the hard drive to process. He said, however, you can 632 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 5: experience God by opening your heart to everyone and all things. 633 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 5: And I've thought about that statement a lot. Literally, if 634 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 5: you can open your heart to everyone, who can do that? 635 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 5: I mean it's impossible to even consider the guy who 636 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: cut me off a traffic and the barista gets my 637 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 5: coffee wrong. But all things, why, things from what I 638 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: can gather, things are all conscious, They're all sentient, They're 639 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 5: atoms agreeing to hold space. So the whole fabric of 640 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 5: our reality and the fabric of the universe appears to 641 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: be consciousness that instead of thinking of it as some 642 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: quality that arises out of something, it exists in the 643 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: fabric of it. And because once we are aware that 644 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 5: the cup we hold, the monitor, we're looking at the 645 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: frequency of another human being, those things are all part 646 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 5: of the fabric. And if we can open our heart 647 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 5: to it, wow, then we can experience what or who 648 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 5: God is. So when you say should we pray? To 649 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: pray is a great term and a great thing to do. 650 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 5: I tell people to focus on meditation. You can cure depression. 651 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 5: According to Richard Davidson, University of Wisconsin, So what's prayer, 652 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 5: what's meditation, or what's having in a conversation. Have a 653 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 5: conversation with your guides, have a conversation with your avatar. 654 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: Invite that avatar to sit across from you. Let's play 655 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: a game. Can I ask you a question? They can't 656 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 5: alter your path because you signed up, Because if they 657 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 5: change the path, you'd have to do it again, you 658 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 5: have to learn the lesson again. But they can give 659 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 5: you solace, they can give you joy, they can give 660 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 5: you unconditional love. All of those things are available to us. 661 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 3: Of course. 662 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 5: You know we're having so much fun on the planet 663 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: with cappuccinos and pizza. 664 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: You know that we. 665 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 5: Don't really stop to go Do I really have to 666 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 5: think about where this came from? Or can I just 667 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: enjoy the pizza. 668 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: I don't think most of us think about any of 669 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 4: these things. It's the max Plink thing again that you 670 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 4: cannot get behind consciousness. So somehow that ties all this together, 671 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: which brings me to another question. It seems like many 672 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: of these different phenomenon may actually overlap that the UFO, 673 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 4: the alien world, these near death experiences people have, as 674 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: well as the study of consciousness itself, may all intersect somehow, right. 675 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think it really comes down to that 676 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: concept of filters on the brain. And when Grayson mentions him, 677 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 5: I know it's on page one twenty five because I'm 678 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: always quoting it in his book after he talks about it. 679 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 5: But so did Helen Wombach fifty years ago exact same phrase. 680 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 5: Filters on the brain that prevent information not conducive to survival. 681 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 5: Some children don't have them until like the age of eight, 682 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 5: you know, they see people that aren't there, they remember 683 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 5: previous lifetimes. Some people that are elderly lose the filters 684 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 5: just prior to passing. Grayson mentions them in this YouTube 685 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: talk is consciousness produced by the brain? How in the 686 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: UK dementia patients suddenly spontaneously we recover seventy percent recover 687 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 5: their memory. The filters are dying in the atropeed brain. 688 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 5: So these filters appear to be important because we need 689 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: to fear things to survive, Okay, But if we want 690 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 5: to bypass that stuff, we can, and that's where they 691 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 5: all intersect. Bypass the filters, then we see, oh, this 692 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: is how consciousness functions, This is how incarnation works. But 693 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 5: whatever we can talk to aliens so called aliens, people 694 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 5: that we know, people that we might have agreed to 695 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 5: meet on this planet, but we're not aware of it. 696 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 5: Once we bypass those filters even a little bit, we 697 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 5: can access why we're on the planet. 698 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I've been very easy on you today, and you're 699 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: welcome because normally you and I get into these much 700 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 4: harder things. 701 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: But I do have to ask. 702 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: You are saying that you can access the other side, 703 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: and you're also able to access new information from the 704 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 4: other side. If those two things are true, why can 705 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 4: you not go on TV tomorrow night and prove this 706 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: to the world by saying, what do you want to know? 707 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: Let me ask Stephen Hawking and let them give you 708 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: a math problem that maybe Richard Martini couldn't do, but 709 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: Stephen Hawking could, And if you could get that information 710 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: downloaded to you, you would prove that all of this 711 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: is real. Why can't we do that? 712 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 5: I've been doing that for fifteen years. My podcast is 713 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I've been doing with Jennifer Schaeffer for eight years. 714 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 5: We have four books, Backstage Pass to the Flip Side, one, 715 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 5: two and three, Tuning into the Afterlife, and every week 716 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 5: Jennifer and I do a podcast. We don't talk beforehand. 717 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 5: We do it live on the air. Lawana Andrews the 718 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: person I mentioned earlier on she's our moderator. On the 719 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: other side. She brings people forward. She is the person 720 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 5: with the as Tom Petty called it, the person with 721 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 5: the guest list who lets people into the VIP lounge. Basically, 722 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 5: we asked them questions that I don't know the answer to. 723 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 5: So Stephen Hawking came forward and I said, Hey, Hank 724 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 5: azariad told a joke on Colbert last night. Tell me 725 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: the punchline. Jennifer hadn't seen it. Hawking knows it, but 726 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: he didn't watch the show. And what it was is 727 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 5: that Hank Kazaria was telling a story of how Hawking 728 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 5: was late for a table read and how Harry Shearer 729 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 5: had said, the man has no sense. 730 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: Of time right, And he's the guy that said. 731 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 5: She heard it from Hawking literally word for word exactly 732 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 5: what Now, here's the point. If your adamant that life ends, 733 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 5: you will never be able to access this information. And 734 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 5: where did I get that from? Harry Dean Stanton Harry 735 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 5: Dean was a very famous eighth theist skeptic. We interviewed 736 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 5: him a week after you passed away, and I said, Harry, 737 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 5: what's it like for a skeptic to realize there is 738 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 5: an afterlife? And he said, tell people there is to 739 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: believe in the afterlife. And I said, Harry, none of 740 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 5: your friends are going to believe that. I said that. 741 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 5: So he gave me three private messages to people at 742 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 5: his memorial and I went up to each one of them, 743 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 5: and they were health related issues. I couldn't know. Jennifer 744 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 5: couldn't know, but they knew. Each was flabbergasted by what 745 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 5: he said. But ultimately I told them what Harry told me. 746 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 5: Believe in the possibility of an afterlife, and then you 747 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 5: won't waste another minute of your life arguing about it. 748 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 5: Proving an afterlife, it's like proving there is life. You 749 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: really can't do that either, because life is this thing 750 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 5: that we experience. People talk about death all the time. 751 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 5: They aren't dead. They clearly are off stage. They clearly 752 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 5: know new information. You can ask them questions and learn it. 753 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 5: So and so died, they didn't die, they left the stage. 754 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 5: And so when you try to talk about the proof 755 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 5: of death, you have to also concern yourself with proof 756 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 5: of life. If you can have a conversation with a 757 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 5: child that hasn't quite come yet and ask them why 758 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 5: didn't you come at this time or what happened, and 759 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: they can tell you, oh, there's a genetic problem, that's 760 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 5: why it didn't come. When you get new information from 761 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 5: people off stage. For those who are aware of this information, 762 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 5: they know that they're accessing the truths and other people 763 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 5: it's their journey and path. They may have chosen a 764 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 5: lifetime not to know, because you know, if you think 765 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: about it, why would you beat yourself up to cure 766 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 5: a disease if you thought, oh, well, next lifetime, I'll 767 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 5: care it. It's this lifetime. Everything has to be now. 768 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 5: But there's a few of us who are concerned with that. 769 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're you're stuck in the middle there, man, Yeah, exactly. 770 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 5: And you know, try to enjoy the pizza and the 771 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 5: cuppucino because it's very difficult to create those on the flip. 772 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: Side, and well, they sure seem like it's really a 773 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 4: great joy to experience our lives on earth. They want 774 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: to incarnate and they want to experience this, so we 775 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 4: should all cherish what we have. Of course, please check 776 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: out close encounters of the Flip Side Kind by Richard Martini. 777 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, brother, always. 778 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 5: With a great gosh dang it, and thank you for 779 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 5: inviting me to the Contact of the Desert. I had 780 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 5: so much fun and it was so great to see you. 781 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: Hey, I thank you everyone for listening to Beyond Contact. 782 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 4: We'll be back next week with a new show. You 783 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 4: can follow me Captain Ron on Twitter and Instagram at 784 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 4: CD Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected by checking out Contact 785 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 4: intheesert dot com. Stay open minded and rational as we 786 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 4: explore the universe right here on iHeartRadio and Coast to 787 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 4: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 788 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 789 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 790 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 791 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com.