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Speaker 6: They're like they've always had that it just didn't turn

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Speaker 6: He just has been on a not a winning team

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Speaker 5: That's been good for good for the fans for sure.

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Speaker 6: So shout out to Charlotte on that because it surprised

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still and honestly, from just outside looking in,

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Speaker 4: It could be who's.

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Speaker 6: I don't have any crazy predictions other than the Spurs

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Speaker 4: That's why we've said it before. But there.

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Speaker 6: I'm starting to think they're they're like, they're they're looking

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna just go ahead and say that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: But anyone who's watched Spurs versus okay See this season,

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Speaker 3: I think that's who everyone in the league should be

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Speaker 5: So that that like they're a scary group. Bro, I

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Speaker 6: I got them all right, continuing to play well, but

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Speaker 3: All right, T Well again, it's been awesome doing this

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about Seattle basketball, we talk about

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Speaker 6: as not just big bro, but just as somebody that

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00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 6: I look up to it all time.

437
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 5: So just following your footsteps.

438
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 6: And like CJ said, we always somehow, some somehow bring

439
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 6: your name up in in you know, every episode that.

440
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: Well, let me just get this out of the way,

441
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: because it is a It's a perfect week for you

442
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: to come on, not just because of who but your

443
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: guys Seattle. I know you both rep Seattle. The Seahawks

444
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: just brought it home super Bowl champs. How does that

445
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: feel to you, guys? I know you're not directly connected

446
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 3: to the football, but that is the hometown, you know.

447
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: Did you guys celebrate like how you guys feeling after

448
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: that win?

449
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Well, for me, I was actually at the Super Bowl,

450
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: so I would uh there and just the energy. It

451
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: was crazy to see. And it's weird because I'm gonna

452
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I had a weird relationship when

453
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: Marshawn left the Seahawks the first time I was out

454
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: because I just feel like I got the ball on

455
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: the one yard line. He did all that work, and

456
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: I was it was like I was part of the team.

457
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: And now fast forward, the same team that we love

458
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: right in the same organization, the same situation in a

459
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: different way. To come back, you know, over a decade

460
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: later and be able to get that look back, like

461
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: Marshawn said, it's really cool. So for me personally, it's

462
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: really dope.

463
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 5: That's me too.

464
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 6: I mean I was actually my birthday was this last weekend,

465
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 6: so me and my wife went out to Cabo and

466
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 6: we was able to watch a Theory which was super dope,

467
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 6: and obviously the Seahawks winning. And it's crazy because obviously

468
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 6: I was in Boston for a few years and you know,

469
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 6: you get brain Washington being a Patriots standing and all that,

470
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 6: and you and I think they won a Super Bowl

471
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 6: at the time. I was there too, so like I

472
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 6: got love for the Patriots. But it was just funny,

473
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 6: Like anybody that I talked to about the Super Bowl,

474
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 6: they thought I would be going for the Patriots for

475
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 6: whatever reason.

476
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 5: But Seattle's the home team.

477
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 6: We got us another Super Bowl championship and happy for

478
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 6: the city for sure.

479
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: And CJ, don't let that go over your head. You said,

480
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: I was in Cabo, me and my wife.

481
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 6: I had to get some son man. I had to

482
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 6: get out of his rain. I had to get out

483
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 6: of this rain up here.

484
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw.

485
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: I see the I G Stories every time we come

486
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: on here, I'm like, you know, he's in the shorts

487
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: on the IG Stories on weekend, I'm in the middle

488
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: of Indianapolis.

489
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're in Indiana. So that's bad. That's tough.

490
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: I'm doing, I said, look at you, I'm doing. I'm

491
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 6: doing all that fan just for a few days. Then

492
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 6: I'm back to it.

493
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: On one early episode, I was talking about how I

494
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: just came I came back from Atlantis. I did an

495
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: Atlantis vacation for Thanksgiving. He even said that you guys

496
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: went out there in vacation.

497
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Hey see true story. So we're out there maybe for

498
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: like five or six days. But what I can honestly

499
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: say about it T and myself is we love the

500
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: game just about more than anybody I've ever met. So

501
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna find a way to still get our work

502
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find it's still hoop. We got the locals. Anyway,

503
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: thirty of them came out. We put our team together

504
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: because we came out there deep. We put our team together.

505
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: They had their team and they had a bunch of

506
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: people watching and we were literally in the I never

507
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: told the story was in the Bahamas, like really hooping

508
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: outside with a don't basketball won the ball you can

509
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: get a target and we was really hooping, sweating and everything,

510
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: and it was dope.

511
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: So experiences like that.

512
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: It's funny how the game can take you places then

513
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: it can connect people as well, so it was really dope.

514
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: It's just fun.

515
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew you guys were hoopers, but like, yeah,

516
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: being dad and husband's on vacation, Like I know what

517
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: that's like. But then it just came out of you

518
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: guys that you guys were doing the being all competitive

519
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: on the vacation course on.

520
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 6: Concrete, concrete and the NBA contracts on concrete. But it

521
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 6: was It's so dope because like moments like that. Obviously

522
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: that was the only time we was in the Bahamas

523
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 6: together and like like that was dope, but we have

524
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 6: so many of those moments just playing at La fitness,

525
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 6: playing at the Communities Center in the city, or any

526
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 6: Boston playing in playing in Boston, a lifetime fit like

527
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 6: doing all of that, Like we always pull up to

528
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 6: wherever and it's crazy for people to see us, but

529
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 6: it's like it's so normal. If there's a basketball court

530
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 6: and we got enough, we're really trying to play at

531
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 6: all times. And that's the That's like something that I

532
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 6: like took after Jamal when I was young, Like obviously

533
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 6: I had that in myself, but to meet somebody that

534
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: like love the game just as much as me, and

535
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 6: it just it just all made sense, like it was

536
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 6: just only right.

537
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: That's dope. Well, can we take it back there?

538
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 3: Because I know Jamal that it has sort of been

539
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: on your radar since high school. Can you guys talk

540
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: about sort of that first time you met her, when

541
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: the first time you saw it hoop and then how

542
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: that relationship and friendship sort of started and kind of

543
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: even just break down, like the evolution of it as

544
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: a hooper and as a friend.

545
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was a trip because I heard

546
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: about him before I actually saw like I ken't caring

547
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: about this Isaiah Thomas and the numbers he was doing.

548
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: How cold.

549
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 5: He was.

550
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: And I remember going up to you dub all the

551
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: time and there was there was a kid playing there

552
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: and I saw him shooting. He wasn't playing with shooting

553
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: before we played in after we playing like that him

554
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: was it before social media, so it wasn't like you

555
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: just knew everybody, right, So I'm like that, that's not him,

556
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: that's not him. I remember the first time seeing him

557
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, that's got to be him.

558
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: And I was a fan of his. I wanted to

559
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: meet him more than he wanted to meet me. And

560
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: I'm in the league, he's in high school. But his

561
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: pleasure was so like cold, and it was so big,

562
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: and it was so like just like you've had to

563
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: know what he was doing. He like took over the

564
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: whole state, even in high school. And I remember that

565
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: feeling because that's what I did when I was in

566
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: high school and Gary Pate was coming to watch me play,

567
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: so I was trying to meet him. We find where

568
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: we finally meet at I I'm not even sure that

569
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: exactly was that.

570
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: Where was it? You know?

571
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 6: It might have been at you Dug because then I

572
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: got something like days after you invited me to play

573
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 6: in the little program for you over your program.

574
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was on the same team and just watching him,

575
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: and the thing that stuck out in my mind about

576
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: him was like his his discipline, Like he was very

577
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: disciplined at a young age.

578
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: He always had a smile. But she always knew, well

579
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: it was weirded about it.

580
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: And I've never told him this was wirried about him

581
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: was you could see his feet was always present where

582
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: he was, but you could see his mind always in

583
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: the future, like he was always preparing for the future.

584
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: Everything was for the future. So and that was the

585
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: same way. So I could really relate to that. And

586
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: then our relationship evolved from pro am and I remember

587
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: his mom. He was going to a prep school in Connecticut,

588
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: and his mom was kind of hesitanting on to.

589
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: Saying, I'm like, nah, make sure he's good. I make

590
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: sure he's good.

591
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: And I was playing with the Knicks at the time,

592
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: and I remember going to Washing me and my wife

593
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: when Washington play.

594
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: In the crowd, we may have been one of like

595
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: five people.

596
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 5: Literally for real, in the middle of nowhere.

597
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: Waters on that team too, right, yeah, wad.

598
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the middle of nowhere We'll go wash

599
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: him play and then on weekends he would coming up

600
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: to my apartment and he would always like and I'm like, bro,

601
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: you could he could sit and you know, on the

602
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: couch and watch TV. He was a small apartment, but

603
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: he always went to the table to eat and like

604
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: things like that.

605
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: He always had a certain respect level. He had like

606
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: an old soul in that way.

607
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: And I always pay attention to details. And he would

608
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: come to the games and it gave him like a

609
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: safety and I want to believe, like a home away

610
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: from home because he was across the country and his

611
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: mom and dad knew was in good hands. So I'm,

612
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: you know, making a long story kind of long. So

613
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: that was the beginning.

614
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: Part of it.

615
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 6: And then like I'm sixteen seventeen at this age, so

616
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 6: like back home, I'm the man, but when I'm in Connecticut,

617
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 6: I had nobody there with me. So like anytime I

618
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 6: could take the train up to White Plays, New York,

619
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 6: he had picked me up. Like this is me at seventeen,

620
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: eighteen years old being picked up by in Jamal Crawfords

621
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 6: is on the Knicks averaging twenty points a game, Like

622
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 6: he's who Jamal Crawford is. It went from that to summertimes,

623
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 6: I'm driving the yellow charger, I'm staying.

624
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: The night at his house.

625
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 6: He got a lake house, I'm staying like at that

626
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 6: age by myself staying at his lake out. Like it

627
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 6: went from like being with him, from meeting him to

628
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 6: being with him every day in the offseason first from

629
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 6: like five years straight, like to where my dad sometimes

630
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 6: he would reach out and be like he would reach

631
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 6: out to Jamal, like, is it really okay if he

632
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: stays here this long? Like because my dad was he

633
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 6: was so overprotective. I wasn't able to stay nowhere. I

634
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 6: only could stay at my friend Eric's house in Jamal

635
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: Cropper's house, Like I couldn't stay anywhere.

636
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: That's just what was the rules in my house.

637
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 6: So like from that point on, I was really with

638
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 6: you until obviously I was a young man and then

639
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 6: I got to college in the NBA, but he like

640
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 6: he groomed me into like the young man I became,

641
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 6: and they just by watching him each and every day.

642
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 5: It was the craziest shit ever.

643
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: And it was just so crazy because he was one

644
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 6: of my favorite players and I just happened to meet

645
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: him and build like a genuine relationship with him. That like,

646
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: obviously I was sixteen when I met you. Thirty seven

647
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 6: now that's twenty one years of my life. That's like,

648
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: you know, we've almost talked almost every day since I met,

649
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: which is even crazier. And so like the stories we

650
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 6: have is just it sometimes. I like last night I

651
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 6: sent you that picture. Yeah, it's like, it's crazy.

652
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: We me and my son surprised him, uh in Boston

653
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: and we're coming.

654
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: He looked like.

655
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: He looked like he please locked in, you know, was Tripp.

656
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: He's always locked in when he's on the course. So

657
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Speaker 1: he looked like what is what was he doing here?

658
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Speaker 1: So we surprised him and went out there. But like,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that picture in ten years. Like, it's

660
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Speaker 1: just but we have so many stories like that. I

661
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Speaker 1: remember one story. We were in my old school. Were

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Speaker 1: on the freeway.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it broke down.

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Speaker 2: It broke down. Look, CJ.

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Speaker 1: The car is it's a convertible. I was in like

666
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Speaker 1: I was in ride room. Riots was the thing I

667
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Speaker 1: was in it in his car. I'm in that car.

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Speaker 1: It's a drop top. We're on the side of the road.

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Speaker 1: This is me and it t He's in the pros

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00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: at this point. So everybody's like driving by, like what

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00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: is going on? I see I got rid of that car.

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Speaker 1: After that, it was all.

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Speaker 5: I was stuck for hours.

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Speaker 1: Stories when we go on the mall, and most of

675
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the time it'd be like you know, as you grow

676
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: on the pros, you have people that are which I

677
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: don't even call him entourage, but your guys who which you.

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00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: Every time it's just me and him. People want it

679
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Speaker 1: t I t mark you take a picture of I'm like, yeah, Ice.

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00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: First of like he want to go in the store

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Speaker 1: and wait for him, I wouldn't go on story, so

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Speaker 1: like really just like truly best friends and brothers, and

683
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Speaker 1: to see him do what he's done and take it

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Speaker 1: where he's taken. He's taking the levels I haven't taken

685
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: it too. So I look up to him in ways.

686
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: He inspires me in a way. So it's just dope

687
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: to see him get this love that all over the

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00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: world though, like every time I see somebody with a

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00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: tattoo of it or something like, bro, can you believe this?

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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy to me, but it's it's a

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Speaker 1: blessing because you can't pay for that kind of love

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we come back.

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Speaker 3: We got more from Jamal Coffin.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: audio limited time offer. Well, so actually this week too, besides,

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Speaker 3: you know the Super Bowl stuff, there's some rumors and

726
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,960
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00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: But you know, Adam Silver said that two expansion teams

728
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Speaker 3: are being considered and the two favorites are Vegas in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Now I feel like the Seattle one has been roomed

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Speaker 3: for so long. But you know, just hearing that, how

731
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Speaker 3: excited are you guys? Like and not even be on

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Speaker 3: the excitement, Like how was it? How important is it

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Speaker 3: that the city gets that team back? And just like

734
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Speaker 3: what what sets Seattle apart? You know that basketball scene

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Speaker 3: from the New York's a La Z even like Texas

736
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Speaker 3: DC all that, like what what how important would this

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Speaker 3: be to get that team back and like help out

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Speaker 3: that scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it would be so important because, like

740
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: I said before, Gary Payton, Sean Camp, they left, Shrimp,

741
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: NAMC Miller, they all helped shape my dreams.

742
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: And I used to work out with the Sonics when

743
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: I was in high school.

744
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: So seeing them, and you know, I wasn't near their

745
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: talent level, but just be on the court with them,

746
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: I was able to steal something and say, you know what,

747
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: if I can get to this level at this point,

748
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: I have a chance. So it made my dreams of reality.

749
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: They were present, they were in the community. Uh, they

750
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: were coming to games. You could shake their hands, you

751
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: could talk to them. So it just it gave you

752
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: a different level of fuel, you know. And I think

753
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: for since eight oh nine, since the Sony's left, you

754
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: have guys like myself, It, Brandon Roy and Jontay Murray, Allo,

755
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: Zach Levine, all these guys who have been so present

756
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: in the community that it's these kids didn't know the

757
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: science weren't here because all their pros from the hometown

758
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: was here with me doing my poem, I t doing

759
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Zeken for all these years.

760
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: It's kept basketball live.

761
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: And on the man's side, we've had the women, but

762
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: on the man's side, it's kept basketball live.

763
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: For so long. So I think it'll be able to help.

764
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: It has sons plan, yes, programs, you know our coach

765
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: as well, and I have a son's planing so and

766
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: daughters playing. I think you'll help give another imagination to

767
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: this next generation that's coming up and can kind of

768
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: help them, you know, push them towards their dreams as well.

769
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: So it's so neat in our community on so many levels.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait.

771
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: I can't wait, Like I don't know nothing you don't know,

772
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: but I can't Like it only makes sense for the

773
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: science to come back. And like even when I was

774
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: in the NBA, like anytime people brought up Seattle, they

775
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: would be like, man, I missed that Seattle trip. Man,

776
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 6: that Seattle trip was and it's crazy, like you got

777
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 6: the play back in Seattle, So like how was how

778
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 6: did that feel when you would come home?

779
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: Like would you would you stay at the crib?

780
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Like it was so crazy.

781
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: I didn't stay at the crib, but it was so

782
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: crazy because that was the trip when I was on

783
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: the East coast, heem I was on the Bulls, so

784
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: we'd come here. It was always a Vancouver, Portland Seattle trip.

785
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Like you went back to back to back. So your

786
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: family wouldn't just come to Seattle. They'd come to Portland

787
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: from the Vancouver like. It was always like a whole trip.

788
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: But it was. It was so fun. I remember one

789
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: time in my last time actually when I played for

790
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: the Bulls, we played Seattle. I dropped my bags at

791
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Speaker 1: the hotel. I go to Green Lake and play for

792
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Speaker 1: three hours.

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00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: You don't I got.

794
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: I go to Green Lake and played for three hours

795
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: in a contry. No agent, I think about this, CJ.

796
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: That's just love of the game. It was illegal. I

797
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: play outside of the concrete for three hours. Next day

798
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I scored thirty one throw off the backboard dunk. I

799
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: just saw the clip.

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Speaker 6: By the way, that was that was the time you

801
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 6: do it off the bat. That's crazy. You went to

802
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 6: Green Lake.

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00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: Green Lake for three hours.

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Speaker 1: So but that to answer your question, it was just

805
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: the energy I had to feel from the city like

806
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: and I would hell you every time we played. We

807
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: played for whatever city was playing for. He's in Boston,

808
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm in La you know, vice versa. But you're representing

809
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: your hometown. He's representing to come. I'm representing Sea out

810
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. So when I came off the plane,

811
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to go feel that energy before I went

812
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: to the game.

813
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: I need to feel that. So for me, I was.

814
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Always looking for something, some type of inspiration, some types

815
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: of something, some type of energy. And I felt like,

816
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, massive moves. When we do the marrow, you

817
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: got through out the backboard, you got I got you

818
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: on the back floor. That's that's how I needed to feel.

819
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: So it was it was one hundred people, the Seattle Sciences.

820
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: I got to give them props to when GP was here,

821
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: they would give me their sweet so I could get

822
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: more people in the game.

823
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: Like they were really really good at that. It was dope.

824
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: And then when they came we both played here. It

825
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: was it was it was handed MONI.

826
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 6: I bet that's crazy that I can only imagine coming

827
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: back to the house and playing.

828
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 2: I see, I'm young, so I'm having a party before

829
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: the game.

830
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Speaker 6: Oh you're doing all that, Yeah, you're doing it all

831
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 6: it's the experience for everybody I already know.

832
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 5: So I could only imagine.

833
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 6: I wish I was like this age are a little

834
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: younger when the Sonics was here, so I could have

835
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 6: seen like Gary Payne even like even just all the

836
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: stars that came to Seattle. I wish I was older

837
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 6: just to see it, bro, because I used to go

838
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 6: to the games as a youngin But like I was

839
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 6: so young, I didn't know what was going on.

840
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Like that going on behind the scenes.

841
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Nah, not crazy is at the time, it was only

842
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Doug Christy, Mike Dickerson, Jason Terry, myself and you know

843
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: JT wasn't really here a lot in the summer. Doug

844
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of saying, Mike d was here, but you didn't

845
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: know he was here. So I was really the only

846
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: one that was. It wasn't like it was now we're

847
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: having fifteen guys. Yeah, it was really like an event.

848
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 6: Nah, I bet I can only imagine, bro.

849
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamal, I know you got a son that's making

850
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: a name for himself and in high school right now, Like,

851
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: is there any angling if the Seattle think it's announced,

852
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully maybe angle him to go play for

853
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: the Sonic someday.

854
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Man, if you him and James keep working, you know

855
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that's the ultimate dream and goal

856
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and I. You and I always talk about it, and

857
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: that was one thing I wanted to talk about while

858
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: I was on here, is just like parents and young

859
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: people's lives and just all that as well. But that

860
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: would be dope. That would be dope. I mean, that's

861
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: that's the dream for our kids to be able to

862
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: be in position at least at that point. But you

863
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: got to put yourself in position with the work and

864
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: the knowledge of getting and how you're applying that knowledge, right,

865
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: So that's that'd be dope though, for sure.

866
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 6: To break you down to culture, how do you transition

867
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 6: from playing to culture? Obviously, and tay and do that. Yeah,

868
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 6: how much do you love coaching? It's so and there's

869
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 6: gonna be some people upset when they hear this, but it's.

870
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 5: Good, you know. I don't care talk a.

871
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Game game seven of the Finals.

872
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: I could play in the game in one NBA game,

873
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: I can commentate a game, or I could coach at

874
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: eyb L or one of the circuits or a summer

875
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: or wherever. I'm picking coaching every time, Like, coaching, to

876
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: me is my favorite thing to do, and right now

877
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I have the perfect pie. I get to train people,

878
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: I get to talk to game. I get to coach

879
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: high school, I get to coach you know. Au So

880
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: for me, coaching this every time And the reason why

881
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: is because you may not be there to end with

882
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: these young people, like you may not see them at Z,

883
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: but you can help them get from A to C

884
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: and you can see like the development and the foundational

885
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: things that help in life, not just sport, being a

886
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: good teammate, being coachable, you know, being yes sir, yes, coach,

887
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: having that respect, getting that knowledge, that's something that goes

888
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: with life. And for me, it's my favorite thing to do.

889
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: I love challenging my mind. I love adjusting on the fly.

890
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I love having to figure it out. I love doing

891
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: the homework. I love doing scouts like I love everything.

892
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: So for me, it's hold on. I'm gonna show you

893
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: think I'm playing.

894
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 6: I know you be seeing me, you be sending me

895
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 6: plays and ship so I know.

896
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you all that.

897
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: Hold on, I gotta I gotta show you this, and

898
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show a team we have not we've already played,

899
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: we may not play, just so you can see all

900
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: serious to see it, so you can.

901
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: See like there's full scouted reports. I'm gonna through just

902
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: together everything about it. I love everything about it.

903
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 5: Wow, putting that together.

904
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: My sister she coaches now, and then I got two

905
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: young sons. I'm gonna coach some damn a few years away.

906
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: But from hearing my sister's story, seeing you know other

907
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: parents who are coaching one thing that I'm and tell

908
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: me if this is correct with you guys, there is

909
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: no pleasing all parents when coaching youth sports.

910
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: And I'll start I see when I I don't even

911
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: say recruit a player, but when a player comes and

912
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: tries out, I'll ask how their parents are. First, I

913
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: don't even see the King's Tower. I want to know

914
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: how their parents are. If their parents are going to

915
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: be an issue, if their parents are going to be

916
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: coaching from the sideline, their parents are going to question

917
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: everything we're doing. Like imagine that CJ. If I had

918
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: a college guy, he could be D three leaning my

919
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: kid on what it's going to take to get to college.

920
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: I would be thankful. Yeah, let alone D two, D one.

921
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: I have NBA All Star Isaiah Thomas, and I may

922
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: be questioning with the kail.

923
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm like. I'm shocked. I'm shocked doing that.

924
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Real question, Steve Bumber, how to put together Microsoft, Like,

925
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: what are we doing right now? This is crazy that

926
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: some of this is happening. So for me, if the

927
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: parents doesn't fit in, like I have a plan.

928
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: I have a.

929
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: Plan not just for my son but for all the kids.

930
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't fit with the plan, let's just

931
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: get in front of it, because I'm going to be frustrated.

932
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna be frustrated. We're trying to coach kids not

933
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: where they are now, but where they want to go

934
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: because we know it where they to be at that

935
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: level in every aspect, and if that doesn't fit, then

936
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: you don't fit with what we're doing.

937
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: For sure.

938
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 6: You know I piggy back everything you're saying because that's

939
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 6: it's like, don't question what I'm a genius at this.

940
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 6: This is one thing that I really know a lot

941
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: about and I know I got the.

942
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: Answers to the test of it.

943
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 6: Every test you're gonna take on this journey, So like,

944
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 6: I don't even like we can have it back and

945
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 6: forth maybe once twice, and then like if you're not

946
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 6: agreeing with what I'm seeing or or the facts to

947
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 6: the matter, and let's just go our separate ways, because

948
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: it's just social media has done a job too to

949
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: where like the parents feel like they got say and

950
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: I and and I get parents like I understand it,

951
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 6: but like if I've done it and my parent wasn't

952
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 6: like this, like I'm going with that way because that's

953
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: I know it works. Like my parent, my dad never

954
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 6: told me I had.

955
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 5: To go to the gym. He never made me go

956
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: to the gym. He never made me compete against my teammates.

957
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: He never made me like just not be the right player,

958
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 6: not only player, but person like, he made me struggle,

959
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 6: Like he allowed me to struggle.

960
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: He allowed me to not like know what was going

961
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: to be next.

962
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: That's why you made it. I could for sure. That's

963
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: the only reason why I made it.

964
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's it my sister.

965
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: So just advice for my sister then, because like she

966
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: coaches this team, and yes it's like younger nine ten,

967
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: So my my niece, my sister's daughter, is the best

968
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: player on the team. But then there's these other the

969
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 3: other kids aren't quite at that level and they're not getting.

970
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 4: As much playing time.

971
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: So I guess specifically you know that and the parents

972
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: of the other kids that aren't getting that much playing time,

973
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: are texting my sister. My sister said the biggest mistake

974
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: she ever made was giving her phone number out because

975
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: then it's.

976
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: Like NonStop text through the day. So like, how do

977
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: you handle that?

978
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: Like what do you tell that other parent who's like,

979
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: my kid's not getting playing time And it's like your

980
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: kid's not putting as much work or isn't as good

981
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: or at that level.

982
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: So I get in front of it. I make them

983
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: sign an unofficial contract. I say it's everybody. We have

984
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: a parent meeting, and I say, is everybody okay if

985
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: their kids do not start in the game. If they

986
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: say yes, it's cool. It's everybody okay if your kid

987
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: doesn't get a certain number of shots. Because I'm in AAU,

988
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: so it's not like in house or somewhere wherever it's

989
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna be equal amount of playing time, it's not gonna

990
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: be equal amount of shots. The better players are probably

991
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: gonna get the most shots. And that's kind of a

992
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: universal thing. If there was no coach here and those

993
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: same players want to play pick up, I'm sure somehow,

994
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: some way, the best player will probably still get the

995
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: most shots. That's just how it works right, But that

996
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't grow, you can't get better, you

997
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: can't get what you want out of it. It's just

998
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: a different route you have to play. And even with

999
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: that CJ, if you continue to go up levels, you're

1000
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: probably gonna play one of those roles you play right now.

1001
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: So let's let's get better at that. Right now, Let's

1002
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: get better at this and continue to have fun and

1003
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: enjoy it, enjoy the process. It's not always gonna be

1004
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: like elevating. It's gonna be bumps. It's gonna it's like

1005
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: when you drive three bucks in the road. There's gonna traffic.

1006
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: That's just how it works. But let's let's let's find

1007
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: ways to work through that.

1008
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: For sure, it's tough, man, it TV you don't even

1009
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: need to go there, but it was, it's on my mind.

1010
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: Here's on my mind.

1011
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, that's good information because people need to

1012
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 6: hear this because that's what we're going through on a

1013
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 6: day to day basis. We're trying to help these kids.

1014
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: It's like it's in a bad space, but like hopefully

1015
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 6: we have more and more guys like Jamal Crawford, guys

1016
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: that know what it takes along this journey and know

1017
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: that there's gonna be bumps in the road. It's not

1018
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 6: going to be social media to where you only post

1019
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 6: the best things ever in your life. Like it's gonna

1020
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 6: it's gonna be tough. And if you're fine with it

1021
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 6: being tough, and if you're fine with it not always

1022
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 6: being your way, then like you you're gonna have a

1023
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 6: I think your path is gonna be a little better

1024
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 6: than the person that thinks you're never going to hit

1025
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 6: any type of adversity.

1026
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 5: You're not going to struggle all.

1027
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: Those types of things that go on on a day

1028
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 6: to day basis and in your everyday life.

1029
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: So and CJ to put a bowl on that.

1030
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: If if you will on a Hollywood set, a movie

1031
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: set and you see Denzel there, You're not Denzel. You're

1032
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be acting like this.

1033
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: For real, it's crazy.

1034
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 4: Well, Jam, I want to be respectful of your time.

1035
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: I know you've got a busy schedule, you know from

1036
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: the broadcasting, and you know, I feel like that's what we.

1037
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: Can do part two.

1038
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 5: We can't give them all the stories yet.

1039
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to do just stories only on the

1040
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: next on part two. But one thing, you know, as

1041
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: you know you've been a you know, a mentor to

1042
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: it here from basketball person and as I can you know,

1043
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: he's doing NBA TV now he's doing this podcast.

1044
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: So I'm sure you guys talk about this.

1045
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: Would just love to see or just love to hear,

1046
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: like what you're noticing and what you know some just

1047
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: advice for even I'd love that too as we get

1048
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: into this game of basketball media and kind of this

1049
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 3: new frontier which you've been a part of the TV

1050
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: and podcast and all that. So we just love, you know,

1051
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: some some parting advice for us here a point game.

1052
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Not to try to be like the hot guy for

1053
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: you know two seconds viral, to be good, and that's

1054
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: what he's doing.

1055
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: Like I'm seeing how comfortable he's getting.

1056
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: He's laughing, he's explained the game, he breaks down the

1057
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: game like nobody else can. So he's seeing things. He's

1058
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: putting you in the game, whether you play at the

1059
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: game or not, you're learning something to talk. So he's

1060
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: just getting more and more comfortable. And I think the

1061
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: more comfortable he gets, he's gonna be a star on

1062
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: this side too, because he's so authentic in players level.

1063
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: I think for me, one of the things that helped

1064
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: me so much was I played against Luca, I played

1065
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: against John Stockton. So I have so many relationships in

1066
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: between generations right where it's like and I'm respected as

1067
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: a player and it has, you know, the utmost respect

1068
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: from players. So he can always get his point across

1069
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: without tearing the player down. He can always keep the

1070
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: game first, and the game will always guide you where

1071
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: you're supposed to go. Like for example, let's say player X.

1072
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: They want him. He's a great score, but he's been

1073
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: having off scoring nights. It is so good at what

1074
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: he does. He can say, you know what, he's been struggling,

1075
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: but they need this version of him versus where he

1076
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: gets the message across and he's not tearing the player

1077
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: down so much. On TV now we see guys, you know,

1078
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: tearing people down. They may be hot for that second,

1079
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: but they run relationships.

1080
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: Is not doing that. So I love what he's doing.

1081
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: Appreciate that, big bro.

1082
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: You already know he's killing it, Jamo.

1083
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: We look forward to everything you're gonna do.

1084
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 3: I know you got a big All Star weekend, especially

1085
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: with you now at NBC. So one just shout out

1086
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: to you man for making time for us and shout out, let's.

1087
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: Break some news. I didn't come here empty head.

1088
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: I left the get Look, I'm calling my first All

1089
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Star weekend, my first All Star.

1090
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: Yeah like that. Ah, that's dope, man, congrats on that. Bro.

1091
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 6: You know everybody around here is going to be tuned in.

1092
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 6: That's gonna be big for the city.

1093
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 5: Nobody.

1094
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 6: I mean Noah, it's crazy. There's so many things that

1095
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 6: you've done and nobody's done. But like to take it

1096
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 6: to the game of basketball, to how you treat people,

1097
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 6: and then to like being able to talk the game

1098
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 6: like you're you're you're about next thing.

1099
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: You know, you're doing the finals? Have you done the

1100
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 5: finals yet?

1101
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: I've done?

1102
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: You did?

1103
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 5: You did? See?

1104
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 6: Like this is what year three and you've done? You're

1105
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 6: at the super Bowl like that? Come on, man, you'll

1106
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 6: be at the World Cup.

1107
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, that's right.

1108
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

1109
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1110
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: And so it's dope, bro, Like it's dope, and you're

1111
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: doing it to This is about to be another twenty

1112
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: five year run.

1113
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 5: Are you nine? We're about to go pro in this too,

1114
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 5: So it's all good.

1115
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 4: Jamal appreciate it, man.

1116
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, mam.

1117
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Part two though, Part we Gotta do it. Yeah, amazing, real,

1118
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: I got a lot of stories to tell about this