1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 3: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Straight Fire from Monday, April eighth. It is great to 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: be back podcasting a week off for the kid's spring break. 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: So much happened while I was gone. We won't get 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: to all of it in this podcast. We will lean 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: heavily on college hoops, obviously, Caitlin Clark that saga, and 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: then I think we'll save NBA for tomorrow. And then 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs got traded, which is not a surprise to 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: anybody who's listening to this podcast. Just so much that's happened. 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: I'll quickly recap spring break for you. Now I haven't 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: told Rob this part. I haven't told many people this part, 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: but you know, we go to spring break and it 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: was kind of a late booking for Hawaii, and we 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: went to this place that we went on our honeymoon, 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: and it's think now the hotel has changed hands a 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: couple of times, and I'll just say this, the service 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: was not great at all. Okay, but that wasn't like 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: the big deal. So Day two were at the pool 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: and you know, we're like, oh, let's go to lunch 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: at this restaurant and we go there and I see 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: like the manager of the restaurant go take a knee 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: and start talking to this guy. And I'm like, oh, well, 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: that guy must be famous. I can't really tell. He's 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: wearing a hat and he's with his family and some 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: friends and kids and stuff. So then I see this 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: like family come over and they're like, hey, can we 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: get a picture. I'm like, okay, this guy's obviously famous. 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: And it turns out it was Donald Glover, the guy 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: who was in Mister and Missus Smith, the New show, 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: and he was in a great show on Atlanta, which 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I haven't seen but got big time reviews. He's been 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: in a bunch of stuff and super nice guy, friendly guy, 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: no big deal. I totally forgot or didn't know. He 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: was childish gambino who when I told a friend, he 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: was like, holy cow, that's like one of the most 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: talented guy. He's like a Bruno Mars level talent. I 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, it seems like a nice guy. 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: So I had fine, Okay, no, not a big deal. 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: You see a quasi famous person and then you know 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: the next day, we're in the hot tub, and this 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: random guy goes, dude, you know who I saw on 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: the beach yesterday. I was like no, and he's like, 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: do you know that guy Alex Jones? 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh gosh, not that guy. He's 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: like yeah, he's. 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: Like super fat and super loud, and I was like, 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: oh my gosh. So I didn't want to tell like 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: the wife about this because you know the guys listen, man, 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: he's a conspiracy theorist. He went on the rant claiming 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: the school shooting in Connecticut where like thirty people died 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: kids was like fake. He's been sued into oblivion and 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: he owes people tons of money. Yet here he is 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: at a I'm not gonna say it was a five 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: star resort, but it's an expensive resort. 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: Ps. 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: We booked it through Costco. I'm not I don't I'm 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: no shave in my game. Go to Costco, folks, you 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: get amazing deals. Anyways, And so. 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: Finally I tell the wife and she's like, you gotta 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 4: be kidding me. 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: And it's like disappointing because you know, you don't want 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: to go to the hot tub and you're walking over 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: there and you just see this guy. He's like a 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: three hundred pounds fucking goblin, and he's sitting there all loud, 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't want to be anywhere near this. 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: I like, I'm not saying I would get an altercation 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: with him. I just I don't. He's just a toxic 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: human being, and I just so I would Let's go 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: to the other hot tub. Fine fight. So then, of 72 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: course the next day we're like, let's just get off 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: the resort and go somewhere else, you know, And so 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: we go to we went to some beach and did 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: all this fun stuff and someone texts me, dude, you're 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: not at the resort. Alex Jones is that he's on 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: TMZ And I guess someone there took a picture of 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: paparazzi or whatever. 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: But it's weird. 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: It was a spring break trip, it was fun, we 81 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: had a good time, and just the mere fact that 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: that guy was there kind of sort of tarnished it. Now, Rob, 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: before I get to the Kitlin Park, I gotta ask, 84 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: Like I tried to not let it get to me, 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: but again, picture yourself at a resort on a vacation 86 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: with your family and this like legitimate whack job was there. 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: Like I don't know like what the move is. Obviously 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: like said, I'm not gonna have an altercation. I'm i 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: gonna talk to the guy. It just didn't feel it 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: didn't feel good. 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gotta be kind of, you know, awkward, especially 93 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: as someone like you who has young kids and to 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: know that, you know, the kind of people that Alex 95 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Jones was spreading these conspiracies that ultimately cost him like 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: a billion dollars in a lawsuit, right, something like that 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: supposedly right, exactly, so you know, for him to say 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: things like he did about the Sandy Hook situation with 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: people who have kids and you, who has kids, I'm 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: honestly applauding you that you were able to not engage 101 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: in the situation because I don't know if I would 102 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: have been able to personally. 103 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I I did, and I avoid I 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: just avoided the guy like the player. You know, you 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: can still have fun at the resort. Anyways, enough about vacation, 106 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: we'll do Final four. Natty bets tonight. I was great 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: in the Final four. Two and Oh made a good 108 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: amount of money, but it was just clawing back losses 109 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: from the Calcutta. 110 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it, folks. 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: Marquette, Houston, Iowa State, all three favored in the sweet sixteen, 112 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 3: All three loss. None of them led in the second half. 113 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: I was legit devastated our flight to Hawaii. I basically 114 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: just I was like, because it wasn't like you lost 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: on a buzzer beater that would be like, I'm pissed. 116 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: That sucks. 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 3: It wasn't like they got totally run out of the building. 118 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: They were like competitive but never could take to leave 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: in the second half. And I was just like stunned 120 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: with one of the most stunning gambling losses I've ever had. Anyways, 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: let's get positive. Let's talk about Kaitlyn Clark. Since everybody 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: hates for some reason, Kitlin Clark, and listen, let's go 123 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: ahead and give good South Carolina their flower. They won 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: the national championship, they covered the spread. Yes, people talked 125 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: about gambling on a women's basketball game. I did not 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: have any money on it. South Carolina wins by twelve, 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: and that does our discussion on South Carolina no disrespect 128 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: to the game Cocks undefeated season, stacked team apparently, and 129 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: I rob, I don't know if you know how accurate. 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: This is, but some guy on Twitter keep sending me, dude, 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: Iowa has won five star recruit. South Carolina has seven 132 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: on their roster. Now, I again, I didn't do the 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: research and look into it, but apparently two of Iowa's 134 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: starters were like no star recruits, like you know, just 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: built themselves up at Iowa and did great. And you know, 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: here Caitlin Clark is doing the one man show or 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 3: one woman show and put on a hell of a performance. 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: The ratings were through the roof. The viewership was astronomical. 139 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: I saw that essentially, you know, South Carolina n C 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: State was a crap game in the Final four, and 141 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: that was the guy like seven million viewers. Kaitlin Clark 142 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: against Yukon got fourteen million, like double, And so I 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: need to start there because let's be real, guys, nobody 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: has ever had the impact on women's college basketball the 145 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 3: Kaitlin Clark has had. Nobody It's not even close. Now, 146 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: timing is everything, and you guys do know this. In sports, 147 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: timing is everything. And just as a point of reference 148 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: for those of you who know, I had a website, 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: the Big Lead. I started at two thousand and six, 150 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: February ish, And that was an era where websites were 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: a big deal. You had to type in the URL, 152 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: you had to bookmark them, you had to go to 153 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: them regularly. 154 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking regularly, like four. 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: Or five times a day. This was two thousand and six, 156 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: pre social media. YouTube was tiny, okay, And the timing of. 157 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: The website was perfect. 158 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Right started two thousand and six. By twenty eleven, I 159 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: was able to sell it. Social media kind of came 160 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: along two thousand and nine, I mean relevant, relevant, Twitter 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: you know was in its infancy in what two thousand 162 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: and eight nine, But bottom line is there were a 163 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: lot of late adapters to social media. So even in 164 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: twenty ten, eleven, twelve, you still were going too websites 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: every day. But social media was kind of like gasoline 166 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: on websites, and the traffic grew and I was able 167 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: to sell it, and it was it was amazing, But 168 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: the timing of it was everything. And all these people 169 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: hell every year at right around college graduation time, Dude, 170 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: how did you get where you are? I kind of 171 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: want to get there. I just I don't want it 172 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: to take like, you know, ten fifteen years. And I 173 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I started this thing called a website, 174 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: and a lot of people are like, oh, you start 175 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: a website, Like nobody wants to start a website now, 176 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: you just want to start a social media account and 177 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: have it grow. But the timing of me starting the 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: website was perfect two thousand and six. The timing of 179 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark ascending in basketball is perfect. Okay, You've got 180 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: the USA women's soccer team winning back to back World Cups. 181 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: That never happens. 182 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: You've got the US I don't know, we don't even 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: know what the women's soccer league here is in America. 184 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: That's popping and truthfully, and I don't like to really 185 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: tread too much into this, but there's this weird thing 186 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: going on in America right now where you know, a 187 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: bunch of people are trying to say, like, hey, women 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,479 Speaker 3: can't have abortions anymore. And I know that's a toxic discussion. 189 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: But I think I've mentioned this guy before, Prof G. 190 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: Scott Galloway. Just I listened to my son had a 191 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: volleyball tournament. On the way back, we listened to Prof 192 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: G talk about what's happening in America with women, and 193 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: it's this. It's called the title of it's called Roe 194 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: just ROWI, and he has an amazing breakdown of what's 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: happening in America with women, and there's just a lot 196 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: of pushback against women who are now more successful than 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: men in a lot of cases. And they're going to 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: college and they're getting better grades and they're getting better jobs, 199 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: and like, women are on the uptick and a lot 200 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: of guys for whatever reason, are like angry about this, and. 201 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Women are They're having there, They're rolling right now. 202 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: Things are crushing for them. And Kitlin Clark came in 203 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: at a moment as women's sports are rising. You guys know, 204 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: I own a soccer team in Mexico. Well, I was 205 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: reading how the US Women's Soccer League send a two 206 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollar TV deal. Now, obviously TV 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: deals are everything NBA, NFL Women's Soccer League, two hundred 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: and forty million dollar TV deal WNBA. I don't follow 209 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: it closely. I'll probably go to my first game when 210 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: Kitlin Clark comes out here to LA next year. 211 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: My daughter's already interested. 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: And you know, frankly, if we're being honest, like the 213 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: timing for Kaitlin Clark was awesome, and she deserves all 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: of it. 215 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: Kaitlin Clark without question. 216 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: No, I know there's been awesome players, and you guys 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: can debate whether or not Kaitlyn Cark is the greatest 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: women's college basketball player ever. I'll leave it to someone 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: with some women's basketball domain expertise. But it's like, like. 220 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: Think about this. 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: Like Dawn Staley took the microphone after the game after 222 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: South Carolina won the title and basically said, Caitlin Clark, 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: you're one of the goats for what you've done for 224 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: women's basketball. And she didn't win a title, And of 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: course I put on Twitter, Hey, Caitlin Clark doesn't need 226 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: a title to be the best women's basketball player in 227 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: college history. 228 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: And of course all these people like, yes, you do 229 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: you need a title. You would never say that about 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: Berkley or Carl Malone. 231 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: I was like, well, actually, pro basketball for men is 232 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: not the same as college for women. 233 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: But okay, and I do think what she's done for Iowa. 234 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: I looked it up. 235 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: Iowa, by the way, had one Elite eight trip in 236 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: the last twenty five is years. 237 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 4: Catlin Cark shows up, they go to the title game twice. 238 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Not bad, and she was going up against just an 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: amazing juggernaut of a team in South Carolina and for 240 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: her to go toe to toe with them. They're down 241 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: I think five, with like three minutes left. They had 242 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: a tiny window. It just couldn't get over the hump. 243 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: I don't think the loss diminishes her. But that's not 244 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: even the discussion. If you guys really notice, I thought 245 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: people are outraged that South Carolina isn't getting their flowers. 246 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Did you see the CNN tweet? J Mack CNN did 247 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: a tweet about the game and clicked percent out a 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: link and their thumbnail image was of Caitlin Clark. Why 249 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: are they highlighting the white girl who lost? Why aren't 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: they giving you know, the largely African American team from 251 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: South colt Why aren't they give it in their flowers? 252 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, hold up, guys, hold hold up, hold up, 253 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: hold hold You do know this is a business, right, 254 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: CNN is a business. The bottom line matters. They know, Hey, guys. 255 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: If we do a I don't know, a twelve minutes 256 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: segment on South Carolina women's basketball or is it gonna 257 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: do well for us? Could it travel then on social media? 258 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: Could we turn it into a story are they gonna 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: generate clicks? Because that's what we're about. And if we 260 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: do it on Caitlin Croark in Iowa, we know, we 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: know people are gonna tune in and they're gonna click. 262 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: That's what's happening here. The game done changed, you guys know, 263 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 3: the game is totally different. This is no longer the 264 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: media and Dan rather Tom Brokaw and partisan media. And 265 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: I'm not saying CNN is bias against South Carolina. That's 266 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: nobody's saying that. But the reality is currently, if you're 267 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: gonna click, then that's what the people are gonna talk about. 268 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: And CNN and Fox and MSNBC and all these people, 269 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: all they care about is the bottom line. And I 270 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: is that right? I don't know the moral answer to that. 271 00:13:59,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: Is it great? 272 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: Probably not? I don't know what that means. We're gonna 273 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: be in five ten years? 274 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: You know? Are you only then talking about what people 275 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: care about? And you know, then you become like, hey. 276 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: You wanna be Are you gonna beat meat or vegetables? 277 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Like you can go every night without anting your vegetables 278 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: the important stuff? And if you just eat a diet 279 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: of meat, is that gonna be okay? Probably not, so 280 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: you do need the balance. But again, in a situation 281 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: like this, you can tell it quickly. South Carolina won 282 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: the game. They were undefeated, first undefeated champions ince yukon 283 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. 284 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Awesome. 285 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: So Kitlyn Clark like, I'm sorry, that's just how it is. 286 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: And I do find it weird. And again, I was 287 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: on spring break and I do this Twitter detox where 288 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: I'm not on there. The only time I came up 289 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: for air was the Kitlin Clark LSU game. We watched 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: it at the at the beach bar at the hotel. 291 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: There's probably there's two TVs. There's probably twenty five thirty 292 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: people watching the entire game. I'm not even making this up. 293 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: We had a good table. You know, my daughter's. 294 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: A hoops fan, you know, because I coach her and 295 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: hoops and the wife and son. We all sat there 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: watched eight and of course they jumped in the pool 297 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: during commercial breaks. Blah blah blah. But like she's appointment 298 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: television now. I do think that there'll be a little 299 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: regression when she leaves college basketball. Obviously, the sport's in 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: a great place. The kid Juju Watkins at USC is awesome. 301 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: But there was something about the Clerk story from Iowa 302 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: small town, passed on all the big schools that wanted her. 303 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: Connecticut didn't want her, by the way, and takes this 304 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: Hodgepodge group. There's like a hoosiers ish feel to it, 305 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: and listen, I love Hoosiers. I also love Coach Carter, 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: which is one of the most underrated basketball movies ever. 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: I showed my kids that I've watched it many times. 308 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I love that I like basketball, and I think the 309 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark story is amazing. She I know they were 310 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: favored in some of those games against LSU and Yukon. 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: To me, they were underdogs, they had less talent. They 312 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: were an amazing storyline. And my guess when later today 313 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: the numbers come out. 314 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, Rob, I will go Sunday afternoon. It 315 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: was up against some. 316 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: Golf tournament that I didn't watch, but my buddy Vic 317 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: cast a futures ticket on the on the Indian guy 318 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: who won it. Apparently he's like dating some Instagram model. 319 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: I went on his Instagram. They're engaged, blah blah blah whatever. 320 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: But like nobody's watching golf. There was some NBA action. 321 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't think game eighty, Game seventy seven on the 322 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: NBA schedule comes close to matching the women's National Championship 323 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: game with Kaitlin Clark. 324 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: So I'll say, Rob, I'll go twenty one twenty one mil. 325 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: That'll be my guess for Iowa South Carolina, close game 326 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: until the final, like you know, minute or whatever. But yeah, 327 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: I'll say twenty one million. And there's a lot to 328 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: chew on there. You don't need to address at all. 329 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: We're not done with the topic. I still have a 330 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: second layer to do. But I'm just curious your thoughts 331 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: on a lot of like the Kaitlin Clark hate. You're 332 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: on the ground floor seeing while I was on spring break, 333 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: what was happening an odd couple, And I'm just curious 334 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: if if you tend to agree with me that you know, 335 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark super duper important. I mean, I think the 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: impact rop is. Remember how Larry Bird and Magic Johnson 337 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: kind of got the NBA started in the eighties. The 338 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: NBA existed before then. It was Fine Cream Ub Bill Jabar, 339 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: Bill Walton, all those great teams players, but the NBA 340 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: really started the modern era with Magic and Bird, and 341 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like Caitlin Clark is those two 342 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: combined for women's college basketball, and then you had like 343 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: the Angel Rees subplot, you had the undefeated South Carolina subplot, 344 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: you had all the records for Kitlin Clark like they 345 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: were like small little satellite things underneath it. 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 347 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: Maybe that means Juju Watkins is going to be Michael 348 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: Jordan here. I don't know, but I do think that 349 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: the impact she's had, people are going to be talking 350 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: about Caitlin Clark like thirty years from now that was. 351 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see another one of these moments. 352 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: If you're a family man like me, you know how 353 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: tough it could be to get last minute tickets to 354 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: a big time supporting event. Most of the seats aren't 355 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: any good, and the good ones tend to cost an 356 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: arm and a leg. 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In fact, I'll double down and 384 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I'll say that the women's rating for Sunday again, part 385 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: of it being on ABC, the national broadcast, is going 386 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: to outdo tonight's yukon Purdue ratings. That's my hot take, 387 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: if you have to call it a hot take on that. 388 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: But you know, some people might say, oh, how are 389 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: you going to say a women's games that would do 390 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: the men's championship. Well, that's what I'm gonna say. And 391 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: reason being, and this is again, this is anecdotal. Completely 392 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: understand this. My wife has not watched a non Super 393 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: Bowl sporting event with me since Paalgasol played for the Lakers, 394 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: right like, she has not sat down and watched the 395 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: sporting event with me that wasn't the Super Bowl since 396 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Power left the Lakers. She was a big Pagosol fan. 397 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: She sat down with her family, you know, visiting, my 398 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: daughter's down on the couch to you we're all watching 399 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Iowa versus South Carolina. Not because she cares who wins, 400 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: not because she likes basketball all that much, but because 401 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: she knows about Caitlyn Clark. She never even seen her play, 402 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: but she knows the name, she knows the buzz, she 403 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: knows that there's this girl that plays for this team 404 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of like an underdog story. But she's really 405 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: really good and everybody's talking about her. So my wife 406 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: wanted to watch her play. And you know, that first 407 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: quarter obviously had her hooked when Kaitlyn Clark was off 408 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: for eighteen in the opening ten minutes. Went downhill after that, 409 00:20:53,720 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, Kaitlyn Clark is a shooting star in in 410 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: sports right because South Carolina and again, it sucks that 411 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: they're kind of getting thrown to the wayside because they 412 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: were absolutely dominant during this run, I mean thirty eight, 413 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: no after losing their entire starting lineup. If Kaitlyn Clark 414 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: doesn't meet them last year in the final four, they're 415 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: back to back undefeated championship seasons. Like that's that's you know, 416 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: that's LEU al sindor UCLA John Wooden level type stuff 417 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: that Don Staley and the game Cocks have been doing. 418 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: So that that's you know, that's almost a totally different conversation. 419 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: But as far as Kaitlyn Clark goes, and it's kind 420 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: of funny that you brought up Alex Jones because in 421 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: a weird way this time to makes sense to me. 422 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, for the most part, everybody was rooting 423 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: for Kaitlyn Clark. Not necessarily they were rooting against South Carolina. 424 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: But the story of Kaitlyn Clark was something that everybody 425 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: could get behind because she's she's a great player, number one, 426 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: but like you said, she's from a small town. She's 427 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: played at home against a with a non perennial power 428 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: our team, and she was able to lead them to 429 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: heights that they hadn't seen in decades. Right, So it 430 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: was something that everybody can kind of get behind. And 431 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: yet there was a vocal minority Alex Jones in this case, 432 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: a vocal minority of female women's basketball players that for 433 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: whatever reason, over the last week or so, have gone 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: out of their way to consistently throw shade at Kaitlin Clark. 435 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: All Right, the biggest one, the biggest culprit in this 436 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: might have been who Lebron Jess was tweeting about on 437 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: Sunday before he decided to mail it in and not 438 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: play last night against the Timberwolves in a must win game. 439 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: But you know it's okay, Lebron, I'll let that slide 440 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: for now because it's not an NBA podcast, But Diana 441 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: Tarazzi felt compelled to say on ESPN that you know 442 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: reality is coming for Kaitlin Clark, that you know you 443 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: look good playing against eighteen year olds, but come play 444 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: with some grown women and you're going to see what happens. 445 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: Right. 446 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: And then even before that, Brianna Storre, who was an 447 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: all time great college you askerby even a great w 448 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: NBA player, said, now, this is like a layup question. 449 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: She was asked by Sirius XM. Does Caitlyn Clark need 450 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: a title to be considered an all time great? Not 451 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: the all time great, not the goat, just one of 452 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the greats. Brianna Stewart, Yeah, she does. I think so. 453 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: And it's like, do you not understand, right? Do you 454 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: not understand the circumstances around Caitlyn Clark? Do you not 455 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: understand the difference between a pair of women. Again, Tarazi 456 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: and Stu are fantastic, all time great players. They also 457 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: played for an all time great program with the winning 458 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: as coaching women's college basketball history. Caitlyn Clark did not 459 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: play at Yukon. She did not play at Tennessee, right, 460 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: she's not currently playing at South Carolina, which is top 461 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: that they can lose entire starting five. Still going feed it. 462 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: She came up and played for her basically hometown team, 463 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and she is bringing more attention to the sport than 464 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: any of your favorite player ever did before that. Right 465 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: as good as Tarazi was, she was again this kind 466 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: of of eyeball attention. Dewey wasn't getting this kind of attention. 467 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: Maya More was a getting. This should make a whole squat, Like, 468 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: go down the list, whoever your favorite college basketball female 469 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: player was. None of them were getting Kaitlyn Clark type numbers. 470 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: And for those two women again the vocal minority, because 471 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: they happen to be the ones with the microphones in 472 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: front of them to kind of go out of their 473 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: way to needle her. It's like, is this what, Diana Tarazi? 474 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Do you want to play in front of six thousand 475 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: people every game? Or do you want to play in 476 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: front of nineteen thousand like Caitlin Clark is regularly drying. 477 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Aces had the highest attendance in WNBA 478 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: last year ever and fifty one average per game their 479 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: first game thousand, nine thousand and five to fifty one 480 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: was their average. Their first game against Kaitlin Clarks was 481 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: presumpably going to be the team from Indiana the Fever. 482 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: They already sold out the arena that they normally play 483 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: in and decided that they needed to move to the 484 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: to a different venue, the Team Mobile Arena in Vegas, 485 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: because it holds double the capacity, because they imagine they're 486 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: going to get double the attendance. So again, if you 487 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: are Diana Tarazi and Brianna Stewart, do you want to 488 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: be playing for the six thousand people? Do you want 489 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: the average annual salary for a women's player in the 490 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: WABA to be one hundred and fifteen thousand? No, of 491 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: course not. So, then why are you shitting on somebody 492 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: who almost single handedly can carry your sport to new heights. 493 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: Almost single handedly is going to raise the floor of 494 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: what your average attendance is, the floor of what your 495 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: average annual salary is. You should be like Don Staley 496 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: was even after they beat her, thanking her for everything 497 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: that she's done for your sport. 498 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the rising tide lifts all boats, right, I think 499 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: that's the same. 500 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 4: Well, Caitlin Clark is the tide. 501 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: Everybody will eat because Caitlin Clark is dominating everyone. 502 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: Now listen, it's just a dumb statement. 503 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: Oh it's good, be rude awakening when she gets to 504 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 3: the w No shit, Oh really you think pro sports 505 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: are harder than college sports? Wow? 506 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: Just earth shattering stuff. I'm so impressed. 507 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: Like, it's just very weird for the You're right for 508 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: them to go out of their way. 509 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: It reminds me. 510 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, one of my favorite stories back when I 511 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: had the radio show. One of my favorite stories was 512 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: how Steph Curry went from basically being what he was, 513 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: like a top ten pick, and then he was kind 514 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: of injured a bit and then like the next thing, 515 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: you know, I think twenty fifteen playoffs, No, no, twenty 516 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: fourteen playoffs. 517 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: They lost the Clippers in seven? Is that what happened? 518 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: You remember that first round? I think it was in seven. 519 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: But the Splash Brothers were born. They were like, oh 520 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: they're fun, a nice little story. Oh yeah, okay, cool fun. 521 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: The next year they win the title and Steph Curry 522 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: becomes like a massive sensation, wins the MVP. And the 523 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: hate for Curry do you remember this, Rob? It was 524 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: like Russell Westbrook did not like Curry Chris Paul hated, 525 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: like genuinely hated Steph Curry, and the thought was the 526 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: thunder had next. They were next in line. 527 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: With Harden and. 528 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 3: KD and Russ they were next in line, and then 529 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: Chris Paul had Lob City with the Clippers. Those groups 530 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: were next in line. Once Kobe like hands the baton 531 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: to the next great superstars, those are gonna be the guys. 532 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: And of course Chris Parl was like, you know, ballyho 533 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: top three pick, everybody knew who he was, Rookie the 534 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: Year everything, and Russell Westbrook just a dunking machine, his energy, 535 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: his ferocity, and those guys did not like Steph Curry 536 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 3: at all. And I'll even remind you, guys, in the 537 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: seventy three Wood Warrior season, there were people still saying, Oh, 538 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: these guys are soft Shack and Barkley would just take 539 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: shots at them all the time. Oh, this team's soft, 540 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: They're just jumpshooters, And there's plenty of video. They just 541 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: refused to accept that the game had changed, and Curry 542 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: was at the forefront. Okay, And of course in the 543 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: seventy three win season, if you go back and look, 544 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: I think it was game six Curry throws his mouthpiece, 545 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: was that the one Rob in Cleveland and Lebron had 546 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: a block, and he turns around and gives this like, 547 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: oh yeah, blah blah blah. Even Lebron at the time, 548 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: I know Lebron spoke glowing way about Curry. I get 549 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: that Lebron did not love him because Lebron was boys 550 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: with Chris Paul. And of course, now Curry eating into 551 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: Lebron's championships when he's trying to catch Jordan for six, 552 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: and there was some disday and I don't think Lebron 553 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: outwardly disliked him as much as Russ. Rob would maybe 554 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: no better, But there was so much pushback on Curry, 555 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: and I didn't get it. Fans loved him. Ratings were up, 556 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: way up, Jersey sales arenas like the NBA TV deal 557 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: got to be awesome, largely in part thanks to Steph 558 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: Curry the dominance, and I mean the league was in 559 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: a better place because of them. And there was still hate. 560 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: So hater's gout hate, as they like to say. And 561 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, Rob, I just it just strikes me 562 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: as odd that these that these women. 563 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: Now, I will say, one of the so you guys. 564 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: Know, I worked at US Weekly, this celebrity magazine, and 565 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: it was like, I don't know. There was basically me, 566 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: like two other straight guys, a couple of gay guys, 567 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: and like thirty girls, and of course some of the 568 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: stuff I would see among the women. 569 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: There was just like they were just brutal to each other. 570 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: And one of the girls said to me, Jason, the 571 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: meanest people to women are other women, and I was 572 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: just blown away by the quote. I was like, Wow, 573 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: that's shocking. 574 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's guys. 575 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, we rib each other and stuff, 576 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: but like, I don't think, what's your friends, Like, you're 577 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 3: not mean, and I just I'm just surprised that, like 578 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: you said, Rob, that these women in the WNBA, even 579 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: in college basketball, like the Angel re stuff was fun, 580 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: the her and Kitlin Clark beef. I didn't like what 581 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: angel Clark said about you know. 582 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: After they lose. She's just like, oh, people have. 583 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: Been attacking me and all this stuff like that, Come on, 584 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: give me a break. You know. 585 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: It's just like you didn't win, so you're playing like 586 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: the victim. 587 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: I didn't like what Angel Rees did, but I don't 588 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: know everything about the Kitlin Clark's story to me is incredible, 589 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: and I do know a lot of other I mean, 590 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm texting with other dads who I've never texted with 591 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: women's basketball about ever. I mean, I don't know that 592 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: I've ever texted with women's basketball about I think with anyone, 593 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: and a lot of people were super into it, and 594 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure you were as well. Rob. 595 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think that you had the 596 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: nail and head right off the beginning when you mentioned 597 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: the comparison between the NBA and the WNBA game and 598 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: that when Steph Curry was having his moment, there were 599 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of haters on the forefronting media, you know, 600 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Shack and Barkley being the guys carrying the torch right 601 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: because they are the at that time especially were the 602 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: faces of the league. Basically like they were the guys 603 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: that everybody looked to, Well, what are the inside the 604 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: NBA guys gonna say about this game, or about this team, 605 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: or about this player, because even though they didn't actually 606 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: watch the games admittedly, which they are they said on 607 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: multiple occasions, people still teem to hold their opinions above 608 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: anyone else's. So the idea of the previous generation shitting 609 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: on the current situation. Like that's not new, right, We 610 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: see that all the time, especially in the NBA. I 611 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: guess what I was so taken aback by is for 612 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: women Again the vocal Minority's this is not a widespread 613 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: thing across the WNBA. This was specifically Diana Tarazi, Brianna Stewart, 614 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Kelsey Plum to a very very lesser extent that we're 615 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: saying things about a woman that is, as we said before, 616 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: she is the reason why people are watching your sport. 617 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: She might not be as good as Diana Tarazi in 618 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the WNBA, she might not be as good as Sue 619 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Byrd or even Kelsey Plum was playing right now, Like 620 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that's entirely possible. But the thing is you have to 621 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: set all that aside, your competitive nature and just be like, look, 622 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: when she gets here, I'm gonna go at her. I'm 623 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna bus try to bust her ask the same way 624 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: I would any any other rookie that I see. But 625 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm also gonna acknowledge that her being here, her being 626 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: a good player, as good as she is, is good 627 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: for me too, Like we work together at Fox and 628 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: iHeart not just because you work on the show with Colin. 629 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: But I root for Colin Cowherd to have fantastic ratings 630 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: both on TV and on radio. You know why, because 631 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: if Colin's doing well, it's gonna raise the floor for 632 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: everyone underneath them. So everybody at FS one, everybody at 633 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia suddenly is gonna get looked at a different way. 634 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully they get paid a different way. Because he's the 635 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: one carrying the blowtorch for us. And if Caitlin Clark 636 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: can do that for the w NBA, why wouldn't you 637 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: support her? That's what I don't understand. 638 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: Totally with you, This is wild. So I just looked 639 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: up the. 640 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: Lowest rated women's college basketball title game and it looks 641 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: like number two is Yukon's two thousand and nine win 642 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: over Louisville. Now that Yukon team was let's see here 643 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: third looks like they did not lose a game thirty 644 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: nine and zero total beasts. 645 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 4: And I happen to look. 646 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: Now Breonna Stor was not on the team, but Maya 647 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: Moore was on the team. Mayamur, of course, is someone 648 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: who I guess Caitlin carkas said, she looked up to 649 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: a lot which is cool, But we're talking that that 650 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: had one point eight million viewers in the title game. 651 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, no, hold on the one point eight 652 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: and two point and for some reason, two point seven 653 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: was uh I guess maybe two point seven was the 654 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: title game. One point eight was the semi final. Oh no, no, 655 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: two point seven million? Sorry, two point seven million for 656 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: the Yukon Louisville two thousand and nine game was the 657 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 3: lowest rated. Kaitlyn Clark might get eight times that number, 658 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: eight times an undefeated Yukon team fifteen years ago. Does 659 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 3: that not say how much the sport's grown? And again, 660 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: TV ratings is just one metric. It's just staggering how 661 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: people can be pushing back. Now here's the thing, Rob, 662 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: what do you think it's college women's college troops next year? 663 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 4: How many times do you think we have Kaitlyn someone 664 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: in women's. 665 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: College basketball leading the podcast next year? Because Kaitlyn's done 666 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: that several times? My guess, short of Juju Watkins going 667 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: for like eighty points in a game or something insane. 668 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that we're gonna have. 669 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: I just don't know that this is you know, these 670 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: are kind of one off events, you know, enjoy it 671 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: in the moment. I don't know that that would just 672 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: be my read on on the Caitlin Clark saga. And 673 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: I'll I'll just I guess I'll just wrap up with 674 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 3: this idea of winning a championship. 675 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 4: You absolutely need it. 676 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously you need championships, but there are scenarios where 677 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: without a championship, you can still be considered one of 678 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: the greats. Now in pro sports, it's extremely difficult. But 679 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 3: in college, I mean, I don't know, rob I don't 680 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: think Tim Duncan won a Natty and I think he's 681 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: a national championship. 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How many times have we talked in 692 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: the pros, obviously different from college where Magic went to 693 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: a stack deck with your bar. Michael Jordan won nothing 694 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: until he got Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson, Like you 695 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: need teams to win the title teams. 696 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: Oh all right, that's a long Caitlin Clark rant. 697 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: The NBA season is in full swing, and when I 698 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: can't get enough of the action on the court, I 699 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: spiced things up betting on Draft Kings Sportsbook and official 700 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: sports betting partner of the NBA. 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First of all, did you have 729 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 4: a bracket with with Connectic? 730 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: Now with Connecticut, with Perdue and Yukon. 731 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: I had a bracket with Connecticut, winning it at two 732 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: of them with Cannadaga whinning it up, but nothing with 733 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: Connecticut and Purdue both in the championship game. 734 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. 735 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: This was one of those tournaments where a lot of 736 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: people are like still alive in bracket contest. They're like, well, 737 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: if I get the score right in Yukon, I can 738 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: win my pool. And I'm like, oh, that's awesome. I 739 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 3: guess that kind of shows it was one of those 740 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: chalkier tournaments. Of course, your boy did not do great 741 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: in any bracket contest because you know, like, I'm not 742 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: a chalk better. 743 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm not. 744 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: I'm not a chalk guy. Chalk was the Kansas City 745 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 3: Chiefs winning the Super Bowl over the Niners. 746 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: Everybody had the Chiefs. 747 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 3: I said, nah, give me Niners and came up a 748 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: little short on that one. So I have Yukon tonight, obviously, 749 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: so now here this is weird. So rob the line. 750 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: I see it online and it's five and a half, 751 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, I gotta take five and 752 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: a half. You know what, let me tell me buy 753 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 3: a little extra for the So I got five minus 754 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: one twenty, for instance, one hundred twenty bucks to win 755 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: a one hundred and twenty one dollars to win one 756 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: hundred and I think Yukon. I I think they're gonna 757 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 3: pretty much handle and win this game. I'm not taking 758 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: shot to Perdue. I know I got some I got 759 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: two buddies, one guy who flew to the Final four. 760 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 4: For Perdue because he went there. 761 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: Another guy who had played at Purdue, and you know, 762 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: I became friendly with that guy, and then I started 763 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: to get to know Robbie Hummel a lot, and he's 764 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: enjoying this ride. I don't see how Purdue wins this game. 765 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: So just my dime store thoughts. After a really nice 766 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 3: final four, I hit the first half under on Purdue, 767 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: NC State and then Yukon, and then I bet Yukon 768 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: live when it was seven. So Perdue is the second 769 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 3: best three point shooting team in the country. But this 770 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: is what's not calculated in the numbers, and I think 771 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 3: becomes a bit of a struggle for them. So why 772 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: are they the three second best three point shooting team 773 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 3: in the country? Is it because I don't know? Zach 774 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 3: Eaedi's seven foot four and just it's every offense he's second, 775 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: he's like sixth best in the country. And offensive boards 776 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: he just grabs offensive boards and then just kicks it. 777 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: Out and they're getting open threes. Yeah, that kind of 778 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 3: happens a lot. And are they maybe the second best 779 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 3: three point shooting team because teams have to double Zachi 780 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 3: Edie not a lot of seven footers out there. And 781 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 3: then you got to pick your poison on the perimeter. 782 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: Who who were gonna are we gonna lance, We're gonna 783 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 3: let the other guard who's really good but struggle mightily 784 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: in the final four, Like, what's our game plan? 785 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? 786 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: And you need to game plan because nobody can match 787 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 3: up with Edie. 788 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 4: Right. 789 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: Well, now you've got Yukon and they've got a seven 790 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: foot of their own and a guy with an amazing nickname, 791 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 3: Donovan Donovan Klingon Klingon, and his nickname is kling Kong. 792 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: At least I heard Iron Eagle say that. I was like, oh, 793 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: I love that cling Klong. 794 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: And he's he's a great he's a really nice youngple. 795 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 4: I think he's. 796 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: Probably a lottery fringe lottery. I don't know he's gonna 797 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: be drafted in the top twenty. I don't think Edie 798 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 3: will be. Klingon is very athletic, Oh my gosh, he's 799 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: real fun to watch. At any rate, he's gonna play 800 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 3: Edie straight up, you don't need to double. We don't 801 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 3: need to double when we got seven to two against 802 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: seven to four. So now you're hugged up on the shooters, 803 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: and you know, you go look at Ken palm, look 804 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: at the size that Yukon has against those Purdue guards. 805 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: It's brutal Castle, who I think is an absolute superstar. 806 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: I know some rob might not have seen it, but 807 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 3: when Castle was dominating Alabama, I said, he reminded me 808 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: of like a like a combo of Scottie Pippen in 809 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: his prime and a young teenage Kobe with a confidence 810 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: and swagger that he can take anybody off the dribble 811 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: and get whatever he wants. And you know, some people 812 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 3: freaked out anytime you put Kobe's name, but I'm just 813 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 3: telling you, this guy Castle is a beast. He guarded Shannon, 814 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 3: Terry Shann and the kid from Illinois in the Elite eight, 815 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: and of course you know Tarren Shannon's scoring machine, unstoppable player. 816 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 4: He's gonna be a pro. 817 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a first round pick because 818 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: he's like twenty two to twenty three years old and 819 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: Castle totally locked him up. Shannon could do nothing. I'm 820 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: talking to Shannon. 821 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 4: Was like two or fourteen. It was crazy. 822 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: This kid Castle can guard anybody. He started out on sears. 823 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: He then got in foul trouble with some dumb fouls. 824 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 3: But I think if you put him on Braden Smith, 825 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: like I don't know what Smith does, and Smith already 826 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 3: had a terrible game against NC State and that athleticism 827 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: game a problem. So anyways, you got Castle at sixty six, 828 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 3: Cam Spencer six ' four, Tristan Newton, who's a really nice, 829 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: well rounded point guard. He's a pro six ' five, 830 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: and then Caravan is six ' eight. Okay, listen to 831 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: the Purdue height outside of Zachide in the starting line 832 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: at Braiden Smith six feet, he's not six feet by 833 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: the way, Lance Jones six to one, Fletcher Lawyer six four, 834 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: Mason Gillis sixty six, or maybe they start Trey kaufmin Rehn, 835 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: the six ' nine guy. But there's just not a 836 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: lot of size there, so they're not gonna dominate the 837 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: offensive glass. And if you hug up the shooters, now 838 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,479 Speaker 3: you're jacking shots over guys who were three four inches 839 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: taller than you. 840 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: That's also not easy. 841 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: Bottom line is I think Purdue struggles offensively. Unless something 842 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 3: happens to clinging, foul trouble, whatever, I don't see it 843 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 3: for Purdue. 844 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 4: So I took the five. 845 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 3: Maybe Perdue gets out to like a nine to three 846 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: start or whatever, and then you can get you kind 847 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: of to depressed price and then you can load up. 848 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, that's what happened against Alabama. Alabama was 849 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: up like four. People were like, oh my gosh, there's 850 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: gonna be a game. I was like, settle down, and 851 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: I added a Yukon minus seven. So I think Yukon's 852 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 3: society here. 853 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: I know that's chalky, but this team is a juggernaut. 854 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 3: I don't know, Robert, you feel in the same way 855 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: like I do like watching Yukon because they're so freaking efficient. 856 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 3: The length in the blocks, when they get the ball 857 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: and run half court sets, it's like they're probably scoring here. 858 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 4: And it was somewhat close Alabama. 859 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: Consider this, rob Alabama was played like they played an 860 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 3: a game in the Final four. They shot forty seven 861 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: percent on threes and they lost by fourteen, and it was, 862 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 3: you know, a tough blown cover. But so now, basically 863 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 3: you're telling me Purdue, which struggled against UNC's pressure. And 864 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: I know this is the thing, and I'm not gonna 865 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 3: like make it a thing. It is, but the Yukon 866 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 3: pressure is gonna get to these Purdue guards. 867 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: And I know that the Purdue. 868 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 3: Guards struggled last year against it and the lack of 869 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 3: athleticism or whatever you want to say. And I know 870 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 3: people hate to talk about that and it gets weird, 871 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 3: but you know, because. 872 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 4: That's essentially people, Oh, that's code for their white and 873 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 4: non athletic. 874 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm just telling you my men's league team, we 875 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: got a white guy who played D three. He's athletic 876 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 3: as hell and could go at anyone and guard anyone. 877 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 3: These Purdue guys are different, and the Yukon guys are 878 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 3: totally different. 879 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about Newton Is is a pro. 880 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be a first round pick because he 881 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 3: does everything well. Castle, I'm telling you, is a lottery pick. 882 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: I think he's top five, probably top three. Klingon is 883 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 3: a first round pick. 884 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 4: That's they're stacked. And Rob. I don't know if it 885 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 4: was you, might have been me, might have been you. 886 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: Somebody compared this team to UNLV and I think this 887 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 3: Yukon team is the most dominant we've seen since UNLVY. 888 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 3: They've beaten six, five, eleven straight NCAA tournament wins by 889 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: double digits. That's not by accident, that's domination. So I 890 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 3: got Yukon. I don't think there's any value on the 891 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 3: money line. I saw it was like minus two eighty 892 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 3: or two seventy five. That's I'm not doing that. So 893 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't know yukonnor passed for me. 894 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm laying the level with Yukon, and in my bracket pool, 895 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: the one, the one I really care about is the 896 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: one that Fox Sports Radio. I'm not gonna win that one, 897 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: and I understand even if you kind of wins, I'm 898 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: not gonna go too far back. But one thing I 899 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: said before the tournament started was if I can beat 900 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: either Aaron Torres, friend of the show, or Doug Gottlie, 901 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: friend of the Show, two guys who covered college basketball 902 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: on a nightly basis for various outlets, if I can, 903 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: If I can beat them, me, who's only a casual 904 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: college basketball fan, toil the tournament, then I'll be happy 905 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: and win or lose with Yukon I'm gonna bet Doug Gottlieb, 906 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty excited about that part. 907 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: I forgot my login. You want to tell me how 908 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 4: poorly I've done. 909 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna win, I'll tell you that much, but. 910 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 3: I definitely well, now, who's gonna win it? Let me 911 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 3: get Last year it was like t J huschwin Zada. 912 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 3: I think I was in a mixing know who. 913 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: She's in the top five. But it looks like Torres 914 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: is gonna win it this year because you know, he's 915 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: a Yukon of lump, so he had Yukon riding them 916 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: heavy so so that that helped him a lot. But 917 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: as far as this Yukon team, this game tonight, to 918 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: me is gonna be eerily similar to what we saw 919 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: with the ladies game yesterday, where I believe Zach Edy 920 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: is the best player in college in college basketball for 921 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: the men's side. You know, I know that he might 922 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: not be the best pro, but for college basketball, I 923 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: believe he's the best player. I thought Caitlin Clark was 924 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: the best player for women obviously, but even before the 925 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: game started, like, there's no way they're gonna be South Carolina. 926 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina is too deep, too physical, too athletic, too good, 927 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: point blank period. They are the better team. They're going 928 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: to win pretty easily. It took them a little bit 929 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: longer than I expected to really turn it on, but 930 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: they want going away. Yukon same thing. They are too good, 931 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: too big, too fast, too talented, too athletic. Zach Edy 932 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be the best player. I believe he's gonna 933 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: have some success when they go one on one against Klingon. 934 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he does. But that Yukon team 935 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: comes at you in waves. They are like I said 936 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: about the UH South Carolina team, they are inevitable, like 937 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. Eventually, the tidal wave is coming. 938 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: Either hits you in the first seven minutes, the last 939 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: seven minutes, whatever it comes, it's going to come. And 940 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: the Yukon hus he is going back to back. 941 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, back to back sounds about right. 942 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned Edie best player in the country, So I 943 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 3: don't know if you saw the Tennessee game, but Tennessee elected, 944 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 3: We're just gonna play Edie straight. We're not going to 945 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: give the shooters anything. Purdue shot three of fifteen on threes. 946 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 3: It was a one point game with looks like two 947 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: and a half left to maybe three and a half. 948 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 4: Edie went nuclear. 949 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 3: He played thirty nine minutes and had forty and sixteen 950 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 3: and he made fourteen three throws forty points. 951 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 4: Rough he ain't scoring forty on clinging. I'm sorry, he's 952 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 4: just not and so I just again not just missing perdue. 953 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 4: It's been an amazing run. I like Edie a lot. 954 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 3: By the way, we could talk about his future prospects, 955 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 3: but Ta hit me on Twitter and said something interesting. 956 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 4: He's like, why can't he be brook Lopez in a 957 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 4: few years in the NBA? And I was like, I 958 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 4: had not thought about that. 959 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: I think, you know, in the range of outcomes, that's 960 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 3: probably highly unlikely. But he did note that brook Lopez 961 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: at Stanford shooting threes was three of twenty one in 962 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 3: his career. He was an All American and he morphed 963 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 3: wisely into a three point shooter. My issue with Edie 964 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 3: becoming like a three point guy is he lumbers like 965 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 3: brook Lopez is big, but I feel like he's not 966 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 3: as much of a plotter, Like you can't have Zach 967 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 3: d in the corner or it's a four on five 968 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 3: fast break. 969 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: The other way you know, I. 970 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 3: Visually I'm struggling seeing seven foot four Zach Edy jacking 971 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: threes from the top of the key. But again, you 972 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: could say the same about Brook Lopez. Yes, my guess 973 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 3: would be that it doesn't happen, and Eddie can make 974 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 3: a ton of money. I don't know his background or ethnicity. 975 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 3: They showed his mom and then I googled it and 976 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: she's like six foot three, But he can make a 977 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 3: ton of money in Asia. Being like, I don't know, 978 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be the new Yao Ming, but like 979 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: Yao Ming was his size, right. 980 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he could be Stefan Marbury, Stephan Maury 981 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: made a hell of a healthy living playing overseas in China. 982 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: And again, I don't want to I don't want to 983 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: dismiss the idea of him in the NBA entirely, but 984 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, case scenario, you can have a lengthy career 985 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: playing overseas. 986 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 3: That yeah, and I don't I would not hope again, 987 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 3: you never I know he's from Canada, but I would 988 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 3: not hope that someone takes him top ten because that's 989 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 3: not gonna work out well. Like that puts a lot 990 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: of pressure on him. People will expect a lot of things. Again, 991 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: somebody compared him to who was the Lakers guy that 992 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 3: they've traded to the Clippers and kind of regretted it. 993 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 4: The big boy Zubos Zubots Okay, so it's interesting. I 994 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 4: looked it up. 995 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 3: Zubots won thirty second overall his first two years. I 996 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 3: think he spent like ninety percent of the time in 997 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: the G League. That's fine when you're a thirty second 998 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: overall pick sure, and then he would emerge as like, okay, 999 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 3: and he was just doing some things, and then they 1000 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 3: traded him. 1001 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 4: He popped in. 1002 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: Like year six, five or six, whatever what you want. 1003 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 3: Year you want to do, and now he's solid and 1004 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 3: he looks like he could be a factor maybe against 1005 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: Yo Kitchen the playoffs. But Rob, you can do that 1006 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 3: when you go thirty second, right, you can't Zack take 1007 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 3: Zach Edie in the second round, tenth overall and then 1008 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: expect him to sit in the G League for two years. 1009 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 3: That like, that's not gonna happen. The GM will get fired. 1010 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 4: I feel awful for Edie. Dude, a player of the Year, 1011 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 4: I think two years in a row, I don't even know. 1012 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 4: And he's one of the great. 1013 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally the great college players we've ever seen. 1014 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 4: You can't put him in the G League. That's just 1015 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 4: that's not right. 1016 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that's right now. I don't think he's 1017 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: gonna get better now. If you want to say, hey, 1018 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: he's got to develop a three, that's another story. 1019 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm rooting for Edie. I like him. I'm 1020 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 4: rooting for a while out more. 1021 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 3: Anyways, long long post spring break podcast. No more vacations 1022 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 3: coming up anytime soon, so locked in POD's gonna be popping. 1023 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 4: We'll talk to you tomorrow.