WEBVTT - Adam Carolla - January 10th, Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks Scott Shan an hour two Sean Hannedy's

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<v Speaker 1>show Toll Free, It is eight hundred and nine to

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<v Speaker 1>four one, Shawn, if you want to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the program. A couple of nights ago, when I

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<v Speaker 1>had comedian Adam Carolla on my TV show, it was

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air. He didn't know whether his house

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<v Speaker 1>would survive the wildfires. Thank God, for his sake, he

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<v Speaker 1>was not one of the thousands and thousands of victims

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<v Speaker 1>that lost their homes that have had their entire lives

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<v Speaker 1>not a pun.

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<v Speaker 2>Intend to go up and smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of this, if not most of it completely preventable,

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<v Speaker 1>and anyway, he talked at it on his own show

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<v Speaker 1>at length about you know, there will be more people

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<v Speaker 1>in winne Bagos that will be on the Pacific Coast

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<v Speaker 1>Highway before Hollywood elites ever returned to their homes because

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<v Speaker 1>of the permitting process, which is formidable. Jillian Michaels brought

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<v Speaker 1>this up on TV and on radio yesterday in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen already on.

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<v Speaker 3>A happy note, I guess all the win of bagos

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<v Speaker 3>that were parked up and down pch where they're cooking

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<v Speaker 3>out of those things surely are gone. They'll be the

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<v Speaker 3>first ones back. The comedy is the guys who lost

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<v Speaker 3>their twenty million dollar homes on the ocean side of

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<v Speaker 3>PCH will be knee deep in the permit process. They

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<v Speaker 3>will be trying to pull permits when the guys in

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<v Speaker 3>the Winnebagos will have been back for months, months before

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<v Speaker 3>those guys ever get a permit. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>Alan Hamill and Suzanne Summers moved because they could not

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<v Speaker 3>get a permit to rebuild their home of forty years

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<v Speaker 3>on the ocean on PCH. You know how Bill Maher

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<v Speaker 3>seems real conservative now when he's like arguing with Jane

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<v Speaker 3>Fonda about regulations, too many regulations, like strangling everything. Because

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<v Speaker 3>remember when Bill Maher tried to put solar in his

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<v Speaker 3>house in Beverly Hills. That's when he turned against the

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<v Speaker 3>government because he saw what the government and the overreach

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<v Speaker 3>of government and overregulation does.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you don't live in California, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not know PCH is the Pacific Coast Highway if

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<v Speaker 1>you've never driven it from northern California all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to southern California. It is one of the most spectacular, picturesque,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful drives you'll ever go on in your life. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievably stunning. Then he predicted that these wildfires will convert Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to join us in a minute after

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<v Speaker 1>evacuating their homes. I'm not sure I agree with them

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<v Speaker 1>on this part.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, you guys all voted for Karen Bass, the

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<v Speaker 3>mayor of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>You all voted for Gavenusom, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you get what you get. Oh, now that your

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<v Speaker 3>house is on fire, well, now you're thinking about something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you want to know what's going on, what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on around here. You didn't give a shit about what

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<v Speaker 3>was going on when other people's houses were on fire,

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<v Speaker 3>but now you can. So here's what's gonna happen. All

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<v Speaker 3>these people who were deep blue Democrats are now going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to pull a permit to rebuild, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get the twenty eight year old from the Coastal

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<v Speaker 3>Commission telling them to go fifth off, and then they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to vote for Trump or whoever's Trump being next.

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<v Speaker 3>You see, they're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Get turned all right. So Adam Carroll joins us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when I last spoke to you, you aren't sure

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<v Speaker 1>if your house is gonna survive. I mean, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of homes around where you live burned to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like so many others. And what you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, about the permit process is dead on accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Jillian Michaels, I think it was. Back in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>lost a home and it took well over a year

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<v Speaker 1>to begin to get the permits needed to rebuild. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I said, Alan ham On Suzanne Summer's Alan

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<v Speaker 4>and Suzanne Summer's husband, a good friends loved Alan told

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<v Speaker 4>me at dinner, took him seven years. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>seven year process. They finally they finally popped it in

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<v Speaker 4>and they moved to Palm Springs because the Coastal Commission

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<v Speaker 4>would not let them rebuild where their home formally stood.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a big deal. I was a builder, Sean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a contractor. I've been dealing with these people

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<v Speaker 4>since my early twenties, so I've been screaming about this

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<v Speaker 4>for a million years. But these folks, like Jane Konda especially,

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<v Speaker 4>they have no idea. They've never pulled a permit, they've

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<v Speaker 4>never dealt with this city. They've never dealt with the

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<v Speaker 4>Coastal Commission. So when they do, that's when they start

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<v Speaker 4>turning the corner and they start thinking like us. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously they're not all going to vote Republican the next

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<v Speaker 4>time around, which you can bet that they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>take a real good look at the next Gavin Newsome

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<v Speaker 4>character who comes down the pike.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we already know who that is. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Kamala Harris, right right, Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, that's true. And and look, this is no

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<v Speaker 4>different than a sanctuary city. Remember all the blue cities

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<v Speaker 4>New York City, they all loved the sanctuary city that

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<v Speaker 4>patted themselves on the back and they celebrated the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that they were heroes because they were sanctuary city. But

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<v Speaker 4>when the first bustloads of migrants started getting dropped off

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<v Speaker 4>in their slanky neighborhoods, what did they do? They started screaming,

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<v Speaker 4>where's the government? What's going on? We didn't sign up

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<v Speaker 4>for this. That's what's going to happen with the rebuilding process.

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<v Speaker 1>I really have got a wonder And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at everything that we've learned since you know this, this

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy happened and it is a tragedy. And I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>with all my heart, and I don't care what your

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<v Speaker 1>politics are, I really feel awful for the people of

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<v Speaker 1>la I mean, they're now going to have to try

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<v Speaker 1>and rebuild their lives. But when you learn that the

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<v Speaker 1>science of forestry and you can get degrees from big universities.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually listed them on this program.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn, University of Florida, NC State University at Georgia. I

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<v Speaker 1>can go on for you know, twenty minutes here and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. You can get it out at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of California. I think Davis has a forestry program

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get a degree in that. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are legitimate criticisms here. You know, why weren't the hydrants working?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with that. You know, we learned also this

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<v Speaker 1>morning that in fact, in the Pacific Palisades that the

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<v Speaker 1>reservoir was freaking empty. I mean, how is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>Avin Newsom doesn't like criticism, but his answer that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a local issue. Why these hydrants weren't designed for

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<v Speaker 1>wildfires in a state that's known for wildfires and Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Ana wins. How does that make any sense to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, just the notion.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, he's just sipping on Vodkas. Not a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal of It's a little early in California, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kidding anything to take the ad job. Sehan come on,

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<v Speaker 4>by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, at this point in dime, I think anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>LA has every right to do whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, well I'm in Vegas, so I just

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<v Speaker 4>took off. I can't get back to my place in Malibu.

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<v Speaker 4>I just found out it was at a one piece. The

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant in front of it is gone. In the entire

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<v Speaker 4>Pacific Coast Highway, every house on it in front of

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<v Speaker 4>me is gone, and I mean for a mile. The

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<v Speaker 4>devastation is beyond the script. We're talking about multimillion dollar

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<v Speaker 4>homes and not three million dollar homes. Twenty five million

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<v Speaker 4>dollar homes all gone for far.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think your house survived?

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<v Speaker 1>We had Caitlin Jenner call on the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin fireproof the outside of her home, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was brilliant on her part. And when Malibu burn the

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<v Speaker 1>last time, her house didn't burn.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the only theme, as an X contractor I

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<v Speaker 4>can see is the more modern homes with the stucco

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<v Speaker 4>and the cement facades with the steel and aluminum windows

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<v Speaker 4>and steel roofs, those fared much better than anything traditional

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<v Speaker 4>with wood eves, you know, shake roof, you know, wood

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<v Speaker 4>trim and molding. All the traditional type homes, the ranch

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<v Speaker 4>style homes one up immediately. The more contemporary modern homes

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<v Speaker 4>stood a much better chance. But still we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>burn to the ground if everything was on file. So

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<v Speaker 4>you will see weird pockets just like you do in

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<v Speaker 4>every fire, just like you do in tornadoes, where you

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<v Speaker 4>see the house to the right is gone, the house

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<v Speaker 4>to the left is gone, and the one in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle seems completely untouched. That's what just happened to my home.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm happy. But I have obviously survivor's guilt now

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<v Speaker 4>because of so many friends, and I know a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy who had I don't think you need to have

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<v Speaker 1>survivor Why would you have survivors guilt? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know it gives you an opportunity with your platform,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to help people out that

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<v Speaker 1>are really desperate and maybe fight for regulations and Sacramento

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<v Speaker 1>to move the process so these people can rebuild their

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<v Speaker 1>lives in a reasonable period of time, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if they even have insurance, and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies pulled out because they knew that this was

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<v Speaker 1>a likely a likelihood. State Farm pulled out. They pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out big time in the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did so because they knew that this would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew that California wasn't prepared and that should have

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<v Speaker 1>been the Canary and the coal mine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, look, I would liken it to this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Gavin knew some once to talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>climate change and all that lefs and all the Blues

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<v Speaker 4>want to blame climate change. Okay, it's here. We're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to get rid of it by having electric leaf

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<v Speaker 4>blowers and converting to electric cars by two thousand and thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as China is, as long as India is

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<v Speaker 4>crapping out coal mines, then we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to move the needle on this. But what are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to do about it? Remember? New Orleans is

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<v Speaker 4>under sea level, so you have to build sea walls.

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<v Speaker 4>And if the Army Corp of Engineers builds a good seawall,

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<v Speaker 4>then the people in New Orleans will not flood. So

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<v Speaker 4>we need to take our technology and steer it toward

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<v Speaker 4>these problems. Instead of sit around and point fingers and

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<v Speaker 4>complain about climate change, how about you do something. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>just say it is climate change. Good. Now, what are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Quick break, We'll have more with Adam Corolo than your

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<v Speaker 1>calls on the other side. Eight hundred and nine to

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<v Speaker 1>four one sewn our number as we continue this Friday, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we continue now with Adam Corolla. His house did survive,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every house around him did not survive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the LAFD Fire Apartment, their budget is slashed, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have six hundred and fifty million allocated for the LA

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<v Speaker 1>port to Go green federal state dollars, eight hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars green street sweepers.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever the hell that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you pay that amount of money for that

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<v Speaker 1>but not pay firefighters. Then they have, you know, billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars allocated for wind turbines. And meanwhile, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you pay for a gallon of gasoline

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<v Speaker 1>where you are? Because I guarantee you I pay.

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<v Speaker 4>About half fifty five to seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I pay.

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<v Speaker 1>About three dollars a gallon now in the free state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida three dollars a gallon. Can you explain that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no income tax in my state?

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<v Speaker 2>None?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, according to Gavin Newsome, all the major oil companies

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<v Speaker 4>only gouge California. They don't gouge any other state. So

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<v Speaker 4>this is all because of greed oil companies who.

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<v Speaker 1>Just they're suing the oil companies and guess what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hire very expensive attorneys and guess what these

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<v Speaker 1>companies will do. They'll raise the price of a gallon

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<v Speaker 1>of gasoline to offset that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's another price height coming soon because he already

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<v Speaker 4>agreed to that a couple of months ago. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get above six dollars a gallon. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 4>gross and confidence. I mean, of course you know it, Sean,

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<v Speaker 4>and you brought it up. But we have our bullet

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<v Speaker 4>train to nowhere. That's eighty billion dollars over budget. That's

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<v Speaker 4>from Bakersfield to mercet Your audience doesn't know where Bakersfield

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<v Speaker 4>and Mercet is. I live in California. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>where Bakersfield in Mercet is.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Bakersfield in the business conference I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have out there. I spoke there many times, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do know where Bakersfield is. But you're right, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Said from Bakersfield?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really? No, I mean you could drive.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the point pointed toward mercaid?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to get an auto drive and you're on your way.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I don't mean to laugh at all about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing funny about it. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it and you stand back big picture,

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<v Speaker 1>there is this sort of intersection between environmental radicalism and

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<v Speaker 1>radical socialism, status and Marxism, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of summed up in the Green New Deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of being implemented and test run out

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<v Speaker 1>where you live in California. And while you stay out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And this is exactly what was on

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<v Speaker 1>the line I think in this past election, and America

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully rejected it. But you know, there's still a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>healthy percentage of the American people that bought into this crop.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think what they don't know what the

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<v Speaker 4>people that bought into it, They bought into windmills and

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<v Speaker 4>solar and clean renewables and blue skies and clean water.

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<v Speaker 4>People are nielis I think they want it all to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think, you know, it's not that they want

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<v Speaker 4>clean air. They don't want you to have a car.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that you need to have an electric car.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want you to have any car. Like, what

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<v Speaker 4>they don't realize is the endgame. The Coastal Commission is

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<v Speaker 4>not interested in protecting the coast. They're interested in getting

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<v Speaker 4>human beings off the coade. What is the endgame? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>we have road dives in Los Angeles, right. They take

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<v Speaker 4>two highway lanes and they shrink them down to one

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<v Speaker 4>and they make the other one for cyclists, for bicycles.

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<v Speaker 4>But nobody has a bicycle. You can't use a bicycle

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<v Speaker 4>to get anywhere. You can't cycle to work in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>So what are they doing? Do they love the environment,

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<v Speaker 4>do they love cyclists? Or are they trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>you out of your car. They won't say what they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do, but that's what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what the endgame is. And I think the Green

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<v Speaker 4>New Deal people the endgame is to get rid of you,

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<v Speaker 4>not to clean up the environm.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course we're the ones, you know, we're pillaging

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth for profit and they do want you know,

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<v Speaker 1>equality as kammalis as an equal justice and diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 1>and inclusion. Anyway, my prayers do go out to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of California. I don't know why you stay out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that you're going to make the move

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<v Speaker 1>within the next five years. There's my prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean know, if I'm right, I got laying in Nevada.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you anyway, Adam Corolla. Prayers for your

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<v Speaker 1>friends don't have survivors guilt. You can help people out

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that you can't imagine. Do a big comedy show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come out there and say Hi, thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi twenty five now to the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Toll free are number if you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the program. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn

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<v Speaker 1>on this Friday. So, I mean sort of anti climatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that with all my heart. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a certainty I'm ninety nine point nine percent that this

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<v Speaker 1>case will be overthrown on appeal. But regardless, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to get there the little pound of flesh and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to you know, tattoo the name convicted Felon

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<v Speaker 1>onto Donald Trump's forehead, which it has no impact on people.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was going to have an impact, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have had an impact on the election. So it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>meaningless anti climatic in so many ways. And as Judge

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<v Speaker 1>Juan Mershawn sentenced President elect Donald Trump to this unconditional

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<v Speaker 1>discharge for his conviction for the quote falsification of business records.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it really is remarkable that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as Donald Trump said, he actually said, I'm being I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting indicted for calling a legal expense illegal expense.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>An NDA is a perfectly legal maneuver that happens all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I'd bet everything I had that the DA's

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<v Speaker 1>office of Alvin Bragg probably if you went through the records,

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<v Speaker 1>has hundreds of them over the years, even before his tenure. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what Donald Trump said about it.

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<v Speaker 5>They're saying, I just noticed where he said I was

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<v Speaker 5>falsifying business records. Well, the falsification of business records, as

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<v Speaker 5>they said, was calling a legal expense in the books

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<v Speaker 5>where everybody could see them, a legal expense, in other words,

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<v Speaker 5>a legal fees or a legal expense. Were put down

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<v Speaker 5>as legal expense by accountants, and they weren't put down

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<v Speaker 5>by me. They were put down by accountants. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>call them construction, concrete work. I didn't call them electrical work.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't call them any They called a legal fee

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<v Speaker 5>or a legal expense, a legal expense. And for this

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<v Speaker 5>I got indicting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, and he's absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the saddest part of all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a novel legal theory. The statute of limitations

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<v Speaker 1>had run out in this case. They did, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they stacked the charges to make it in one charge,

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<v Speaker 1>basically thirty four charges.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, claim this to be justice.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was a federal matter, and I think at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day that they never got to

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<v Speaker 1>the issue at hand in terms of the appeal. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask our attorneys on our legal panel in just a

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<v Speaker 1>second here, But I think it was very very obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that they in my view, that they could have argued

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<v Speaker 1>something very differently when they went to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a different issue for a different day. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the supremacy clause would have been

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<v Speaker 1>more applicable myself rather than the process that they went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Donald Trump saying that this was a political witch hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>This was to damage his reputation so he wouldn't run

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<v Speaker 1>for president. They didn't do this until after he announced

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<v Speaker 1>he was running for president and then claimed his innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to

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<v Speaker 5>damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election. And

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<v Speaker 5>obviously that didn't work. People of our country got to

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<v Speaker 5>see this firsthand because they watched the case in your courtroom.

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<v Speaker 5>They got to see this firsthand. And then they voted,

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<v Speaker 5>and I won and got the largest number of votes

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<v Speaker 5>by far, of any Republican candidate in history, and one,

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<v Speaker 5>as you know, all seven swing states, one conclusively, all

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<v Speaker 5>seven swing states, and one the popularity the popular vote

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<v Speaker 5>by millions and millions of votes. And they've been watching

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<v Speaker 5>you trial, so they understood it. But the fact is

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm totally innocent. I did nothing wrong. They talked

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<v Speaker 5>about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted.

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<v Speaker 5>I had nothing to do with them. Any of that

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<v Speaker 5>was done by an accountant or a bookkeeper who I

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<v Speaker 5>think a very credible testimony, and was corroborated by everybody

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<v Speaker 5>that was asked. And with all that's happening in our

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<v Speaker 5>country today, with a city that's burning to the around

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<v Speaker 5>one of our largest, most important cities burning to the ground,

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<v Speaker 5>with wars that are uncontrollably going on, with all of

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<v Speaker 5>the problems of inflation and attacks on countries, and all

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<v Speaker 5>of the horrible things that are going on. I got

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<v Speaker 5>indicted over calling a legal expense. I llegal expense. It

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<v Speaker 5>was called a legal expense. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's an embarrassment to New York, and New

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<v Speaker 5>York has a lot of problems, but this is a

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<v Speaker 5>great embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 1>And the president is one thousand percent right. Here's Jan

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<v Speaker 1>Mershawn talking about the hush money case. Both extraordinary and ordinary.

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<v Speaker 6>Never before has this court been presented with such a

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<v Speaker 6>unique and remarkable set of circumstances. Indeed, it could be

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<v Speaker 6>viewed fairly that this has been a truly extraordinary case.

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<v Speaker 6>There was unprecedented media attention, public interest, and heightened security

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<v Speaker 6>involving various agencies. And yet the trial was a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a paradox because once the courtroom doors were closed,

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<v Speaker 6>the trial itself was no more special unique or extraordinary

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<v Speaker 6>than the other thirty two criminal trials that took place

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<v Speaker 6>in this courthouse at the same exact time. Jury selection

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<v Speaker 6>was conducted. The same rules of evidence were followed, opening

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<v Speaker 6>statements were made, witnesses called and cross examined, evidence presented,

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<v Speaker 6>some nations delivered, the same burden of proof was applied,

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<v Speaker 6>and the jury made up of ordinary citizens delivered a verdict.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was all conducted pursuant to the rules of

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<v Speaker 6>procedure and guided.

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<v Speaker 2>By the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Ordinary citizens in a part of the country where Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>outnumber Republicans and Trump hatred is that the probably the

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<v Speaker 1>pinnacle in the entire country anyway. To analyze all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>our legal panel, Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal analyst, best

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<v Speaker 1>selling author, David Shoon, civil rights attorney. Welcome both of

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<v Speaker 1>you back to the program, and Greg start with you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a case that never should have been tried

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<v Speaker 1>before a very biased jury with a novel legal theory,

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<v Speaker 1>after the statute of limitations had run out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have the added burden of.

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<v Speaker 1>An immunity decision by the US Supreme Court that just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't move, a judge that was abusively biased towards Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole way.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's a veritable Morgas board of reversible errors made

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<v Speaker 7>by the judge, a principle among them. As you just

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<v Speaker 7>pointed out, the teenage evidence that's prohibited by the presidential

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<v Speaker 7>immunity standard enunciated by the Supreme Court on July first,

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<v Speaker 7>testimony from White House officials, numerous presidential records should never

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<v Speaker 7>have been introduced. But Judge one Sean just you know,

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<v Speaker 7>disregarded all of it, insisting that, oh well, that evidence

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<v Speaker 7>was really quite trifling, even though prosecutors emphasized it during

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<v Speaker 7>closing arguments to the jury, it was certainly important to them.

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<v Speaker 7>You know. Overall, Braggs convoluted incoherent legal theory was really

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<v Speaker 7>theater of the absurd. And I had to laugh today.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, the prosecutor Stenglass condemning Donald Trump, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>using the kind of descriptive language that's normally reserved for

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<v Speaker 7>serial killers, not somebody convicted of a book keeping error.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this is not a city that takes

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<v Speaker 1>crime seriously. Look at the Daniel Penny case. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>the case of this guy that stabbed two people, but

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weekend ago on a subway that had

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven prior arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>That was still all the street. So this is a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a legal nondisclosure agreement put together by an

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<v Speaker 1>attorney identified as such in their bookkeeping, and the statute

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<v Speaker 1>of limitations had run out. Anyway, how did this become

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<v Speaker 1>a federal crime to begin with.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's impossible. A state or local official is not

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<v Speaker 7>allowed to bring a campaign finance prosecution. That's the exclusive

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<v Speaker 7>authority of the Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission,

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<v Speaker 7>both of which looked at this case and said there's

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<v Speaker 7>no there there, No crimes were committed, mostly because the

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<v Speaker 7>money given to Stormy Daniels did not constitute a campaign contribution. So,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, case over. But this DA decided to resurrect

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<v Speaker 7>from the dead, you know, expired misdemeanors and morphed them

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<v Speaker 7>into these phantom felonies. And as I said, hey, this

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<v Speaker 7>was theater of the absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>It really was, David Shan let's get your take on

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<v Speaker 2>all of us.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, while jose Mara Shawn has said that the same

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<v Speaker 8>thing happened in thirty two other trials at the same

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<v Speaker 8>time this was going on, God help us, that's true.

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<v Speaker 8>If they had anything like him as a judge and

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<v Speaker 8>any of the other trials, we're in big trouble. And

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<v Speaker 8>if he made as those other judges made many mistakes,

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<v Speaker 8>we're in worse trouble. The idea that you know this

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<v Speaker 8>didn't impact the election, I think it did impact the election.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the American people are fair minded and they

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<v Speaker 8>saw this for what it was, and I think that

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<v Speaker 8>boosted President Trump in the election. You're right about the

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<v Speaker 8>federal crime issue, but I don't even think you get there.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's a secondary argument, because the fundamental problem

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<v Speaker 8>with this case is the jury was the defendant was

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<v Speaker 8>never told what he was charged with, and the jury

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<v Speaker 8>was never told what he was charged with. You have

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<v Speaker 8>no idea what they found he did is the purpose

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<v Speaker 8>for a falsified so called falsifying business records. Remember quickly,

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<v Speaker 8>one seventy five point oh five makes it a misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 8>to falsify business records. One seventy five to ten could

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<v Speaker 8>a felony if you did it to commit or conceal

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<v Speaker 8>another crime they never identify with that other crime is

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<v Speaker 8>violates the New York Constitution, the Federal Constitution. New York

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<v Speaker 8>Statute two hundred point fifty. In the penal law, you

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<v Speaker 8>can't defend against the case if you don't know what

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<v Speaker 8>you did. So the prosecution gave the judge three or

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<v Speaker 8>four choices in a letter they wrote, and the judge said, well,

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<v Speaker 8>that's fine, we don't have to identify the crime. So

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<v Speaker 8>it could have been falsifying business records for tax purposes,

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<v Speaker 8>for election fraud, purposes to boost an election, purposes otherwise

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<v Speaker 8>affect it, and so on. We have no idea. And

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<v Speaker 8>he refused to charge the jury on any express crime.

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<v Speaker 8>He couldn't have at that point. It would have been

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<v Speaker 8>too late. It has to be reversed on those grams alone.

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<v Speaker 8>But besides that, you have evid entry problems from the

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<v Speaker 8>Weinstein case alone. You know that the when President Trump

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<v Speaker 8>wanted to testify, the judge said he would open up

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<v Speaker 8>the door to all kinds of extraneous things that the

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<v Speaker 8>court in the Weinstein case when they reversed Harvey Weinstein's conviction,

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<v Speaker 8>said you can't possibly do and they move from Trump

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<v Speaker 8>moved from mistrial the time, and that's preserved. So there's

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<v Speaker 8>so many issues in this case. It will be reversed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the is there a silver lighting here? Greg Jarrett

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<v Speaker 1>and as much as now Marshawn is off the case

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<v Speaker 1>and this will be brought all these issues will be

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<v Speaker 1>brought up on appeal. And had he not been sentenced,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that appeal process would have installed until he got

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<v Speaker 1>out of office.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's the real benefit for Trump. He can now

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<v Speaker 7>in earnest appeal all of the mistakes and reversible errors

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<v Speaker 7>that were made at trial. And I agree with David

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<v Speaker 7>that this is you know, this is a conviction that

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<v Speaker 7>will not last. I guarantee at one hundred percent it'll

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<v Speaker 7>be overturned on appeal because of all of the prejudicial,

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<v Speaker 7>inadmissible evidence that the jurors were allowed to listen to

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<v Speaker 7>in a legal theory that is so utterly incoherent and

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<v Speaker 7>incomprehensible that you know, in my forty five yours as

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<v Speaker 7>a lawyer, I can't make sense of it. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>understand it. I don't know what Trump was convicted of.

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<v Speaker 7>Such an egregious mistake by the judge to tell the

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<v Speaker 7>Jersey you don't have to identify the underlying crime, and

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<v Speaker 7>you don't even have to agree unanimously, So nobody knows

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<v Speaker 7>what a violation of a bedrock constitutional principle repeatedly reiterated

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<v Speaker 7>by the US Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, quick break more with our legal panel on

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<v Speaker 1>this anti climatic sentencing of Donald Trump today. I'm certain

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<v Speaker 1>it will be overturned by a higher court. At least

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<v Speaker 1>it's finally out of Juan Mershan's abusively biased, corrupt courtroom.

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<v Speaker 1>We continue with David Joan and Greg Jarrett on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight ahead, the final hour of the Sean Hannity Show

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<v Speaker 3>was up next.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang on for Sean's conservative solution.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we continue the anti climatic ruling and sentencing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a non sentence by Juan Mershan, with our

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<v Speaker 1>legal panel, Greg Jarrett and David Shona with us. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure this will be overturned on appeal. Mark Levin was

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<v Speaker 1>was a big advocate that the argument should have been

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<v Speaker 1>brought to the Supreme Court a lot sooner, David shown,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should have been brought on the supremacy clause,

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<v Speaker 1>and how this was a federal issue and this novel

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<v Speaker 1>legal theory didn't you know, had no standing at all whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Alvin Bragg's jurisdiction, and more importantly, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a case about election interference and had

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the rule of law. Would there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a better argument before the Supreme Court because

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume at some point it may be back there.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, he is right, and you know, there's a principle

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<v Speaker 8>also that this immunity issue that we're talking about here

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<v Speaker 8>is a very special kind of immunity and it's a

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<v Speaker 8>federal question. It's a constitutional issue. It's a federal question.

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<v Speaker 8>There is a principle of law that New York has

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<v Speaker 8>recognized and many states have recognized that when there's a

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<v Speaker 8>federal immunity type issue there, we apply federal rules, and

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<v Speaker 8>federal rules would have required a state to be imposed

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<v Speaker 8>here the invocation of a Supreme Court called Johnson versus

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<v Speaker 8>Shan Kelvin says state's not required to do that, but

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<v Speaker 8>New York State has sat in an opinion or two

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<v Speaker 8>that that's an appropriate way to handle the case. I

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<v Speaker 8>also think they made a mistake in the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 8>by focusing on this presidential transition period. There's very little

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<v Speaker 8>or no authority about what the rights are during that period.

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<v Speaker 8>The problem here is by entering the conviction, they've done

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<v Speaker 8>exactly what the OLC opinion in two thousand said, as

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<v Speaker 8>the basis for giving immunity, that is, this creates a

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<v Speaker 8>stigma hanging over the head of the president, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>a distraction while he's in office, not just the transition period.

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<v Speaker 8>But you're right, John, you asked a good question. We

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<v Speaker 8>always ask good questions, but one you asked earlier was

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<v Speaker 8>is there a silver lining? That's right, he had a

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<v Speaker 8>choice to make it. The president was right to try

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<v Speaker 8>to litigate the immunity issue. First. It's a narrow issue,

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<v Speaker 8>but to me, it's a huge bonus. Now he gets

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<v Speaker 8>to finally appeal, put all of this thing to bed,

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<v Speaker 8>throw it out, and get it overturned on the real

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<v Speaker 8>issues in the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate both of you, thanks for being one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred and nine to four one. Shawn is on number.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to be a part of the program,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. I do think that the silver

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<v Speaker 1>lining will come into play a lot sooner than many

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<v Speaker 1>people think. David Showing, Greg Jarrett, we always appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>being one of us.