1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Scott Shan an hour two Sean Hannedy's 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: show Toll Free, It is eight hundred and nine to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: four one, Shawn, if you want to be a part 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: of the program. A couple of nights ago, when I 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: had comedian Adam Carolla on my TV show, it was 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: up in the air. He didn't know whether his house 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: would survive the wildfires. Thank God, for his sake, he 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: was not one of the thousands and thousands of victims 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: that lost their homes that have had their entire lives 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: not a pun. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Intend to go up and smoke. 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: A lot of this, if not most of it completely preventable, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: and anyway, he talked at it on his own show 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: at length about you know, there will be more people 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: in winne Bagos that will be on the Pacific Coast 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Highway before Hollywood elites ever returned to their homes because 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: of the permitting process, which is formidable. Jillian Michaels brought 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: this up on TV and on radio yesterday in California. 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Listen already on. 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: A happy note, I guess all the win of bagos 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: that were parked up and down pch where they're cooking 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: out of those things surely are gone. They'll be the 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: first ones back. The comedy is the guys who lost 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: their twenty million dollar homes on the ocean side of 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: PCH will be knee deep in the permit process. They 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: will be trying to pull permits when the guys in 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: the Winnebagos will have been back for months, months before 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: those guys ever get a permit. As a matter of fact, 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Alan Hamill and Suzanne Summers moved because they could not 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: get a permit to rebuild their home of forty years 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: on the ocean on PCH. You know how Bill Maher 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: seems real conservative now when he's like arguing with Jane 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: Fonda about regulations, too many regulations, like strangling everything. Because 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: remember when Bill Maher tried to put solar in his 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: house in Beverly Hills. That's when he turned against the 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: government because he saw what the government and the overreach 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: of government and overregulation does. 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Now he's not wrong. 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: By the way, if you don't live in California, you 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: may not know PCH is the Pacific Coast Highway if 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: you've never driven it from northern California all the way 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: down to southern California. It is one of the most spectacular, picturesque, 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: beautiful drives you'll ever go on in your life. It's 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: unbelievably stunning. Then he predicted that these wildfires will convert Democrats, 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: and he's going to join us in a minute after 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: evacuating their homes. I'm not sure I agree with them 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: on this part. 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: But listen, you guys all voted for Karen Bass, the 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: mayor of Los Angeles. 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: You all voted for Gavenusom, and. 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: Now you get what you get. Oh, now that your 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: house is on fire, well, now you're thinking about something else. 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: Now you want to know what's going on, what's going 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: on around here. You didn't give a shit about what 55 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: was going on when other people's houses were on fire, 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: but now you can. So here's what's gonna happen. All 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: these people who were deep blue Democrats are now going 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: to have to pull a permit to rebuild, and they're 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: gonna get the twenty eight year old from the Coastal 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: Commission telling them to go fifth off, and then they're 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: going to vote for Trump or whoever's Trump being next. 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: You see, they're gonna. 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Get turned all right. So Adam Carroll joins us. 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: Now when I last spoke to you, you aren't sure 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: if your house is gonna survive. I mean, I assume 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot of homes around where you live burned to 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the ground like so many others. And what you were saying, 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: by the way, about the permit process is dead on accurate. 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Jillian Michaels, I think it was. Back in twenty eighteen, 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: lost a home and it took well over a year 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: to begin to get the permits needed to rebuild. It's insane. 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, Alan ham On Suzanne Summer's Alan 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: and Suzanne Summer's husband, a good friends loved Alan told 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: me at dinner, took him seven years. It was a 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: seven year process. They finally they finally popped it in 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: and they moved to Palm Springs because the Coastal Commission 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: would not let them rebuild where their home formally stood. 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: So it's a big deal. I was a builder, Sean, 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: you know, a contractor. I've been dealing with these people 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: since my early twenties, so I've been screaming about this 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: for a million years. But these folks, like Jane Konda especially, 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: they have no idea. They've never pulled a permit, they've 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: never dealt with this city. They've never dealt with the 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: Coastal Commission. So when they do, that's when they start 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: turning the corner and they start thinking like us. Now, 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: obviously they're not all going to vote Republican the next 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: time around, which you can bet that they're going to 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: take a real good look at the next Gavin Newsome 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 4: character who comes down the pike. 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: Well, we already know who that is. That's going to 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: be Kamala Harris, right right, Yes. 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. And and look, this is no 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 4: different than a sanctuary city. Remember all the blue cities 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: New York City, they all loved the sanctuary city that 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: patted themselves on the back and they celebrated the fact 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: that they were heroes because they were sanctuary city. But 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: when the first bustloads of migrants started getting dropped off 98 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: in their slanky neighborhoods, what did they do? They started screaming, 99 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: where's the government? What's going on? We didn't sign up 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: for this. That's what's going to happen with the rebuilding process. 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: I really have got a wonder And if you look 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: at everything that we've learned since you know this, this 103 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: tragedy happened and it is a tragedy. And I honestly, 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: with all my heart, and I don't care what your 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: politics are, I really feel awful for the people of 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: la I mean, they're now going to have to try 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: and rebuild their lives. But when you learn that the 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: science of forestry and you can get degrees from big universities. 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: I've actually listed them on this program. 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: Auburn, University of Florida, NC State University at Georgia. I 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: can go on for you know, twenty minutes here and 112 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: talk about it. You can get it out at the 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: University of California. I think Davis has a forestry program 114 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: and you can get a degree in that. And there 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: are legitimate criticisms here. You know, why weren't the hydrants working? 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with that. You know, we learned also this 117 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: morning that in fact, in the Pacific Palisades that the 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: reservoir was freaking empty. I mean, how is that possible? 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Avin Newsom doesn't like criticism, but his answer that this 120 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: is a local issue. Why these hydrants weren't designed for 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: wildfires in a state that's known for wildfires and Santa 122 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: Ana wins. How does that make any sense to you? 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: Well, first, just the notion. 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: By the way, he's just sipping on Vodkas. Not a 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: big deal of It's a little early in California, but 126 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: it's fine. 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: I'm kidding anything to take the ad job. Sehan come on, 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: by the. 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Way, at this point in dime, I think anybody in 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: LA has every right to do whatever they want. 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, well I'm in Vegas, so I just 132 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: took off. I can't get back to my place in Malibu. 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: I just found out it was at a one piece. The 134 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: restaurant in front of it is gone. In the entire 135 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: Pacific Coast Highway, every house on it in front of 136 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: me is gone, and I mean for a mile. The 137 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 4: devastation is beyond the script. We're talking about multimillion dollar 138 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: homes and not three million dollar homes. Twenty five million 139 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: dollar homes all gone for far. 140 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Why do you think your house survived? 141 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: We had Caitlin Jenner call on the other day and 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Caitlin fireproof the outside of her home, which I thought 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: was brilliant on her part. And when Malibu burn the 144 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: last time, her house didn't burn. 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, the only theme, as an X contractor I 146 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: can see is the more modern homes with the stucco 147 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: and the cement facades with the steel and aluminum windows 148 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: and steel roofs, those fared much better than anything traditional 149 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: with wood eves, you know, shake roof, you know, wood 150 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: trim and molding. All the traditional type homes, the ranch 151 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: style homes one up immediately. The more contemporary modern homes 152 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: stood a much better chance. But still we're going to 153 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: burn to the ground if everything was on file. So 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: you will see weird pockets just like you do in 155 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: every fire, just like you do in tornadoes, where you 156 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: see the house to the right is gone, the house 157 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: to the left is gone, and the one in the 158 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: middle seems completely untouched. That's what just happened to my home. 159 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: And I'm happy. But I have obviously survivor's guilt now 160 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 4: because of so many friends, and I know a. 161 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Guy who had I don't think you need to have 162 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: survivor Why would you have survivors guilt? I mean, if 163 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,119 Speaker 1: you know it gives you an opportunity with your platform, 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to help people out that 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: are really desperate and maybe fight for regulations and Sacramento 166 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: to move the process so these people can rebuild their 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: lives in a reasonable period of time, by the way, 168 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: if they even have insurance, and a lot of the 169 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: insurance companies pulled out because they knew that this was 170 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: a likely a likelihood. State Farm pulled out. They pulled 171 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: out big time in the last year and a half. 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: And they did so because they knew that this would happen. 173 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: They knew that California wasn't prepared and that should have 174 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: been the Canary and the coal mine. 175 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I would liken it to this. 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: You know, Gavin knew some once to talk about, you know, 177 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: climate change and all that lefs and all the Blues 178 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: want to blame climate change. Okay, it's here. We're not 179 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: going to get rid of it by having electric leaf 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: blowers and converting to electric cars by two thousand and thirty. 181 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: As long as China is, as long as India is 182 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 4: crapping out coal mines, then we're not going to be 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: able to move the needle on this. But what are 184 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: you going to do about it? Remember? New Orleans is 185 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: under sea level, so you have to build sea walls. 186 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 4: And if the Army Corp of Engineers builds a good seawall, 187 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 4: then the people in New Orleans will not flood. So 188 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: we need to take our technology and steer it toward 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: these problems. Instead of sit around and point fingers and 190 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: complain about climate change, how about you do something. Let's 191 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 4: just say it is climate change. Good. Now, what are 192 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: we going to do? 193 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: All right? 194 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Quick break, We'll have more with Adam Corolo than your 195 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: calls on the other side. Eight hundred and nine to 196 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: four one sewn our number as we continue this Friday, Right, 197 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: we continue now with Adam Corolla. His house did survive, 198 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: pretty much every house around him did not survive. You know, 199 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: the LAFD Fire Apartment, their budget is slashed, but they 200 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: have six hundred and fifty million allocated for the LA 201 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: port to Go green federal state dollars, eight hundred thousand 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: dollars green street sweepers. 203 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Whatever the hell that is. 204 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Why would you pay that amount of money for that 205 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: but not pay firefighters. Then they have, you know, billions 206 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: of dollars allocated for wind turbines. And meanwhile, I bet 207 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: how much do you pay for a gallon of gasoline 208 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: where you are? Because I guarantee you I pay. 209 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: About half fifty five to seventy five. 210 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: I mean I pay. 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: About three dollars a gallon now in the free state 212 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: of Florida three dollars a gallon. Can you explain that 213 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: there's no income tax in my state? 214 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: None? 215 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: Well, according to Gavin Newsome, all the major oil companies 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: only gouge California. They don't gouge any other state. So 217 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: this is all because of greed oil companies who. 218 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Just they're suing the oil companies and guess what they're 219 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: going to hire very expensive attorneys and guess what these 220 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: companies will do. They'll raise the price of a gallon 221 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: of gasoline to offset that. 222 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, there's another price height coming soon because he already 223 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: agreed to that a couple of months ago. So we're 224 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: going to get above six dollars a gallon. Yes, it's 225 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: gross and confidence. I mean, of course you know it, Sean, 226 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: and you brought it up. But we have our bullet 227 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 4: train to nowhere. That's eighty billion dollars over budget. That's 228 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: from Bakersfield to mercet Your audience doesn't know where Bakersfield 229 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: and Mercet is. I live in California. I don't know 230 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 4: where Bakersfield in Mercet is. 231 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: I've been to Bakersfield in the business conference I used 232 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: to have out there. I spoke there many times, but 233 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: I do know where Bakersfield is. But you're right, what's 234 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: the point. 235 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 4: Said from Bakersfield? 236 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: Not really? No, I mean you could drive. 237 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: What's the point pointed toward mercaid? 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, to get an auto drive and you're on your way. 239 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: Look, I don't mean to laugh at all about this, 240 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: because there's nothing funny about it. But you know, if 241 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: you look at it and you stand back big picture, 242 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: there is this sort of intersection between environmental radicalism and 243 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: radical socialism, status and Marxism, whatever you want to call it. 244 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: And it's kind of summed up in the Green New Deal, 245 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and it's kind of being implemented and test run out 246 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: where you live in California. And while you stay out there, 247 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. And this is exactly what was on 248 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: the line I think in this past election, and America 249 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: thankfully rejected it. But you know, there's still a fairly 250 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: healthy percentage of the American people that bought into this crop. 251 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think what they don't know what the 252 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: people that bought into it, They bought into windmills and 253 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: solar and clean renewables and blue skies and clean water. 254 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: People are nielis I think they want it all to go. 255 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, it's not that they want 256 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: clean air. They don't want you to have a car. 257 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: It's not that you need to have an electric car. 258 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: They don't want you to have any car. Like, what 259 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: they don't realize is the endgame. The Coastal Commission is 260 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: not interested in protecting the coast. They're interested in getting 261 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: human beings off the coade. What is the endgame? Like, 262 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: we have road dives in Los Angeles, right. They take 263 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: two highway lanes and they shrink them down to one 264 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: and they make the other one for cyclists, for bicycles. 265 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: But nobody has a bicycle. You can't use a bicycle 266 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: to get anywhere. You can't cycle to work in Los Angeles. 267 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: So what are they doing? Do they love the environment, 268 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: do they love cyclists? Or are they trying to get 269 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: you out of your car. They won't say what they're 270 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: trying to do, but that's what they're trying to do. 271 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: That's what the endgame is. And I think the Green 272 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: New Deal people the endgame is to get rid of you, 273 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: not to clean up the environm. 274 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: But of course we're the ones, you know, we're pillaging 275 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: the Earth for profit and they do want you know, 276 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: equality as kammalis as an equal justice and diversity, equity 277 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: and inclusion. Anyway, my prayers do go out to the 278 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: people of California. I don't know why you stay out there. 279 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: I would imagine that you're going to make the move 280 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: within the next five years. There's my prediction. 281 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: I mean know, if I'm right, I got laying in Nevada. 282 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm looking at it right now. 283 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't blame you anyway, Adam Corolla. Prayers for your 284 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: friends don't have survivors guilt. You can help people out 285 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: in ways that you can't imagine. Do a big comedy show. 286 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll come out there and say Hi, thank you, my friend. 287 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Hi twenty five now to the top of the hour. 288 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Toll free are number if you want to be a 289 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: part of the program. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn 290 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: on this Friday. So, I mean sort of anti climatic. 291 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I believe that with all my heart. I think it's 292 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: a certainty I'm ninety nine point nine percent that this 293 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: case will be overthrown on appeal. But regardless, I mean 294 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: to get there the little pound of flesh and to 295 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: be able to you know, tattoo the name convicted Felon 296 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: onto Donald Trump's forehead, which it has no impact on people. 297 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: If it was going to have an impact, it would 298 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: have had an impact on the election. So it's somewhat 299 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: meaningless anti climatic in so many ways. And as Judge 300 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Juan Mershawn sentenced President elect Donald Trump to this unconditional 301 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: discharge for his conviction for the quote falsification of business records. 302 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it really is remarkable that, you know, 303 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: as Donald Trump said, he actually said, I'm being I'm 304 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: getting indicted for calling a legal expense illegal expense. 305 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: And that's what it was. 306 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: An NDA is a perfectly legal maneuver that happens all 307 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: the time. I'd bet everything I had that the DA's 308 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: office of Alvin Bragg probably if you went through the records, 309 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: has hundreds of them over the years, even before his tenure. Anyway, 310 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: here's what Donald Trump said about it. 311 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 5: They're saying, I just noticed where he said I was 312 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: falsifying business records. Well, the falsification of business records, as 313 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: they said, was calling a legal expense in the books 314 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 5: where everybody could see them, a legal expense, in other words, 315 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 5: a legal fees or a legal expense. Were put down 316 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: as legal expense by accountants, and they weren't put down 317 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 5: by me. They were put down by accountants. I didn't 318 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: call them construction, concrete work. I didn't call them electrical work. 319 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: I didn't call them any They called a legal fee 320 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: or a legal expense, a legal expense. And for this 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: I got indicting. 322 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: It's incredible, and he's absolutely right. 323 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean, in the saddest part of all of this, 324 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: it was a novel legal theory. The statute of limitations 325 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: had run out in this case. They did, you know, 326 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: they stacked the charges to make it in one charge, 327 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: basically thirty four charges. 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, claim this to be justice. 329 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: It really was a federal matter, and I think at 330 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: the end of the day that they never got to 331 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the issue at hand in terms of the appeal. We'll 332 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: ask our attorneys on our legal panel in just a 333 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: second here, But I think it was very very obvious 334 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that they in my view, that they could have argued 335 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: something very differently when they went to the Supreme Court. 336 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: But that's a different issue for a different day. But 337 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think the supremacy clause would have been 338 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: more applicable myself rather than the process that they went through. 339 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Here's Donald Trump saying that this was a political witch hunt. 340 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: This was to damage his reputation so he wouldn't run 341 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: for president. They didn't do this until after he announced 342 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: he was running for president and then claimed his innocence. 343 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Here's what he said. 344 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: It's been a political witch hunt. It was done to 345 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election. And 346 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: obviously that didn't work. People of our country got to 347 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: see this firsthand because they watched the case in your courtroom. 348 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 5: They got to see this firsthand. And then they voted, 349 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 5: and I won and got the largest number of votes 350 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: by far, of any Republican candidate in history, and one, 351 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: as you know, all seven swing states, one conclusively, all 352 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: seven swing states, and one the popularity the popular vote 353 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: by millions and millions of votes. And they've been watching 354 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: you trial, so they understood it. But the fact is 355 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: that I'm totally innocent. I did nothing wrong. They talked 356 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: about business records, and the business records were extremely accurately counted. 357 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: I had nothing to do with them. Any of that 358 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: was done by an accountant or a bookkeeper who I 359 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: think a very credible testimony, and was corroborated by everybody 360 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 5: that was asked. And with all that's happening in our 361 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: country today, with a city that's burning to the around 362 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: one of our largest, most important cities burning to the ground, 363 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 5: with wars that are uncontrollably going on, with all of 364 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: the problems of inflation and attacks on countries, and all 365 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: of the horrible things that are going on. I got 366 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: indicted over calling a legal expense. I llegal expense. It 367 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: was called a legal expense. I just want to say, 368 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 5: I think it's an embarrassment to New York, and New 369 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 5: York has a lot of problems, but this is a 370 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 5: great embarrassment. 371 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: And the president is one thousand percent right. Here's Jan 372 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: Mershawn talking about the hush money case. Both extraordinary and ordinary. 373 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: Never before has this court been presented with such a 374 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: unique and remarkable set of circumstances. Indeed, it could be 375 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 6: viewed fairly that this has been a truly extraordinary case. 376 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: There was unprecedented media attention, public interest, and heightened security 377 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 6: involving various agencies. And yet the trial was a bit 378 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 6: of a paradox because once the courtroom doors were closed, 379 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: the trial itself was no more special unique or extraordinary 380 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: than the other thirty two criminal trials that took place 381 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 6: in this courthouse at the same exact time. Jury selection 382 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: was conducted. The same rules of evidence were followed, opening 383 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 6: statements were made, witnesses called and cross examined, evidence presented, 384 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 6: some nations delivered, the same burden of proof was applied, 385 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 6: and the jury made up of ordinary citizens delivered a verdict. 386 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: And it was all conducted pursuant to the rules of 387 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 6: procedure and guided. 388 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: By the law. 389 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Ordinary citizens in a part of the country where Democrats 390 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: outnumber Republicans and Trump hatred is that the probably the 391 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: pinnacle in the entire country anyway. To analyze all of this, 392 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: our legal panel, Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal analyst, best 393 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: selling author, David Shoon, civil rights attorney. Welcome both of 394 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: you back to the program, and Greg start with you. 395 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: This is a case that never should have been tried 396 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: before a very biased jury with a novel legal theory, 397 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: after the statute of limitations had run out. 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: And then you have the added burden of. 399 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: An immunity decision by the US Supreme Court that just 400 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: didn't move, a judge that was abusively biased towards Trump. 401 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: The whole way. 402 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a veritable Morgas board of reversible errors made 403 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 7: by the judge, a principle among them. As you just 404 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 7: pointed out, the teenage evidence that's prohibited by the presidential 405 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 7: immunity standard enunciated by the Supreme Court on July first, 406 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: testimony from White House officials, numerous presidential records should never 407 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 7: have been introduced. But Judge one Sean just you know, 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 7: disregarded all of it, insisting that, oh well, that evidence 409 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 7: was really quite trifling, even though prosecutors emphasized it during 410 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 7: closing arguments to the jury, it was certainly important to them. 411 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: You know. Overall, Braggs convoluted incoherent legal theory was really 412 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 7: theater of the absurd. And I had to laugh today. 413 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 7: You know, the prosecutor Stenglass condemning Donald Trump, and you know, 414 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 7: using the kind of descriptive language that's normally reserved for 415 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 7: serial killers, not somebody convicted of a book keeping error. 416 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: By the way, this is not a city that takes 417 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: crime seriously. Look at the Daniel Penny case. Look at 418 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the case of this guy that stabbed two people, but 419 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weekend ago on a subway that had 420 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: eighty seven prior arrest. 421 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: That was still all the street. So this is a joke. 422 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: This was a legal nondisclosure agreement put together by an 423 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: attorney identified as such in their bookkeeping, and the statute 424 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: of limitations had run out. Anyway, how did this become 425 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: a federal crime to begin with. 426 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 7: Well, it's impossible. A state or local official is not 427 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: allowed to bring a campaign finance prosecution. That's the exclusive 428 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 7: authority of the Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission, 429 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 7: both of which looked at this case and said there's 430 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 7: no there there, No crimes were committed, mostly because the 431 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 7: money given to Stormy Daniels did not constitute a campaign contribution. So, 432 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 7: you know, case over. But this DA decided to resurrect 433 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 7: from the dead, you know, expired misdemeanors and morphed them 434 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 7: into these phantom felonies. And as I said, hey, this 435 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 7: was theater of the absurd. 436 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: It really was, David Shan let's get your take on 437 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: all of us. 438 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 8: Well, while jose Mara Shawn has said that the same 439 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 8: thing happened in thirty two other trials at the same 440 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 8: time this was going on, God help us, that's true. 441 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 8: If they had anything like him as a judge and 442 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 8: any of the other trials, we're in big trouble. And 443 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 8: if he made as those other judges made many mistakes, 444 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 8: we're in worse trouble. The idea that you know this 445 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 8: didn't impact the election, I think it did impact the election. 446 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 8: I think the American people are fair minded and they 447 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 8: saw this for what it was, and I think that 448 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 8: boosted President Trump in the election. You're right about the 449 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 8: federal crime issue, but I don't even think you get there. 450 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 8: I think that's a secondary argument, because the fundamental problem 451 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 8: with this case is the jury was the defendant was 452 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: never told what he was charged with, and the jury 453 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 8: was never told what he was charged with. You have 454 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 8: no idea what they found he did is the purpose 455 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 8: for a falsified so called falsifying business records. Remember quickly, 456 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: one seventy five point oh five makes it a misdemeanor 457 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 8: to falsify business records. One seventy five to ten could 458 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 8: a felony if you did it to commit or conceal 459 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 8: another crime they never identify with that other crime is 460 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 8: violates the New York Constitution, the Federal Constitution. New York 461 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 8: Statute two hundred point fifty. In the penal law, you 462 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 8: can't defend against the case if you don't know what 463 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 8: you did. So the prosecution gave the judge three or 464 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 8: four choices in a letter they wrote, and the judge said, well, 465 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 8: that's fine, we don't have to identify the crime. So 466 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 8: it could have been falsifying business records for tax purposes, 467 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 8: for election fraud, purposes to boost an election, purposes otherwise 468 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 8: affect it, and so on. We have no idea. And 469 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 8: he refused to charge the jury on any express crime. 470 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 8: He couldn't have at that point. It would have been 471 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 8: too late. It has to be reversed on those grams alone. 472 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 8: But besides that, you have evid entry problems from the 473 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 8: Weinstein case alone. You know that the when President Trump 474 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 8: wanted to testify, the judge said he would open up 475 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 8: the door to all kinds of extraneous things that the 476 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 8: court in the Weinstein case when they reversed Harvey Weinstein's conviction, 477 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 8: said you can't possibly do and they move from Trump 478 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 8: moved from mistrial the time, and that's preserved. So there's 479 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 8: so many issues in this case. It will be reversed. 480 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: Well, the is there a silver lighting here? Greg Jarrett 481 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: and as much as now Marshawn is off the case 482 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and this will be brought all these issues will be 483 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: brought up on appeal. And had he not been sentenced, 484 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: maybe that appeal process would have installed until he got 485 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: out of office. 486 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the real benefit for Trump. He can now 487 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 7: in earnest appeal all of the mistakes and reversible errors 488 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 7: that were made at trial. And I agree with David 489 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 7: that this is you know, this is a conviction that 490 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 7: will not last. I guarantee at one hundred percent it'll 491 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 7: be overturned on appeal because of all of the prejudicial, 492 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 7: inadmissible evidence that the jurors were allowed to listen to 493 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: in a legal theory that is so utterly incoherent and 494 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 7: incomprehensible that you know, in my forty five yours as 495 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 7: a lawyer, I can't make sense of it. I don't 496 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 7: understand it. I don't know what Trump was convicted of. 497 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 7: Such an egregious mistake by the judge to tell the 498 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 7: Jersey you don't have to identify the underlying crime, and 499 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 7: you don't even have to agree unanimously, So nobody knows 500 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 7: what a violation of a bedrock constitutional principle repeatedly reiterated 501 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 7: by the US Supreme Court. 502 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: All Right, quick break more with our legal panel on 503 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: this anti climatic sentencing of Donald Trump today. I'm certain 504 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it will be overturned by a higher court. At least 505 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: it's finally out of Juan Mershan's abusively biased, corrupt courtroom. 506 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: We continue with David Joan and Greg Jarrett on the 507 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: other side. 508 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: Straight ahead, the final hour of the Sean Hannity Show 509 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: was up next. 510 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: Hang on for Sean's conservative solution. 511 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, we continue the anti climatic ruling and sentencing, 512 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: which is a non sentence by Juan Mershan, with our 513 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: legal panel, Greg Jarrett and David Shona with us. I'm 514 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: sure this will be overturned on appeal. Mark Levin was 515 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: was a big advocate that the argument should have been 516 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: brought to the Supreme Court a lot sooner, David shown, 517 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: and it should have been brought on the supremacy clause, 518 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: and how this was a federal issue and this novel 519 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: legal theory didn't you know, had no standing at all whatsoever, 520 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: and in Alvin Bragg's jurisdiction, and more importantly, you know 521 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: that this was a case about election interference and had 522 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the rule of law. Would there 523 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: have been a better argument before the Supreme Court because 524 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I would assume at some point it may be back there. 525 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 8: Yes, he is right, and you know, there's a principle 526 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 8: also that this immunity issue that we're talking about here 527 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: is a very special kind of immunity and it's a 528 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: federal question. It's a constitutional issue. It's a federal question. 529 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 8: There is a principle of law that New York has 530 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 8: recognized and many states have recognized that when there's a 531 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 8: federal immunity type issue there, we apply federal rules, and 532 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 8: federal rules would have required a state to be imposed 533 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 8: here the invocation of a Supreme Court called Johnson versus 534 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 8: Shan Kelvin says state's not required to do that, but 535 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 8: New York State has sat in an opinion or two 536 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 8: that that's an appropriate way to handle the case. I 537 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 8: also think they made a mistake in the Supreme Court 538 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 8: by focusing on this presidential transition period. There's very little 539 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 8: or no authority about what the rights are during that period. 540 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 8: The problem here is by entering the conviction, they've done 541 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 8: exactly what the OLC opinion in two thousand said, as 542 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 8: the basis for giving immunity, that is, this creates a 543 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 8: stigma hanging over the head of the president, and it's 544 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 8: a distraction while he's in office, not just the transition period. 545 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 8: But you're right, John, you asked a good question. We 546 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 8: always ask good questions, but one you asked earlier was 547 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 8: is there a silver lining? That's right, he had a 548 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 8: choice to make it. The president was right to try 549 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 8: to litigate the immunity issue. First. It's a narrow issue, 550 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 8: but to me, it's a huge bonus. Now he gets 551 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 8: to finally appeal, put all of this thing to bed, 552 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 8: throw it out, and get it overturned on the real 553 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 8: issues in the case. 554 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate both of you, thanks for being one of us. 555 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine to four one. Shawn is on number. 556 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the program, 557 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I do think that the silver 558 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: lining will come into play a lot sooner than many 559 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: people think. David Showing, Greg Jarrett, we always appreciate you 560 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: being one of us.