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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Car and Drivers. Into Cars, a

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Speaker 1: podcast from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio, brought to you by eBay Motors.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony ki Roger, the editor in chief of Car

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Speaker 1: and Driver, and I'm joined by my co host, former

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Speaker 1: editor in chief and current Chief Brand and Content Officer,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Alterman, and together we're Into Cars.

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Speaker 2: Each episode of this podcast covers a new car that

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Speaker 2: we think is worthy of your attention. The cars we

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Speaker 2: select may feature a novel design, cutting edge engineering, or

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Speaker 2: something entirely new. We'll cover the stories behind the cars,

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Speaker 2: answering the whys and exploring the whats, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: sit down with the people who actually made the cars

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Speaker 2: to answer our questions about them. Come along for the

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Speaker 2: ride and you'll hear it all the good, the bad,

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Speaker 2: and the ugly in the way that only carrent Driver delivers.

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Speaker 1: This episode of Into Cars is a little different. We're

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Speaker 1: going on a field trip to Cadillac House at GM's

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Speaker 1: technical Center in Warren, Michigan, to have the customer experience

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Speaker 1: of a very special car, the three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars Cadillacs Celestic. In addition to specifying how we'd

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Speaker 1: order Cadillac's most expensive car. Ever, We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to the designers, engineers, and people responsible for a car

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Speaker 1: that will compete with the Rolls, Royces, Bentley's and My

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Speaker 2: For what seems like decades, Cadillac has been teasing a

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Speaker 2: true flagship for its lineup, and now they've built it.

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Speaker 2: The Cadillac Celestic is a three hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars to start six hundred horsepower ev sedan that's as

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Speaker 2: long as an escalade. But you don't just powerslide into

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Speaker 2: your local Cadillac dealership to get one. Owners have to

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Speaker 2: make the cut, and once they do, they're welcomed into

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Speaker 2: the world of Cadillac House. Cadillac House at Vanderbilt, that's

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Speaker 2: the official name, is the brand's attelier where customers go

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Speaker 2: to speck out their celestics. The trim and colored choices

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Speaker 2: are limitless, and it all has in the midst of

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Speaker 2: a mid century modern architectural masterpiece. Aerosarnin's General Motors Technical Center.

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Speaker 2: Dedicated in nineteen fifty six, Cadillac House is a jewel

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Speaker 2: box of glass, travertine and marble, located right in the

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Speaker 2: heart of the Tech Center campus. And the thing is

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Speaker 2: nobody gets to see it. You have to be invited in.

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Speaker 2: You either have to work there, be a journalist or

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Speaker 2: by a Celestic. It's truly one of the most amazing

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Speaker 2: places in America in terms of mid century architecture, but

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Speaker 2: it's just not open to the public. And we're going

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Speaker 2: to go there today. We're here at this incredible building,

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Speaker 2: Cadillac House at Vanderbilt, with Alexandra Damasca, who is going

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Speaker 2: to the space. And this is where Celestic owners will

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Speaker 3: It's quite a special place and that's why it was

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Speaker 3: selected for the Celestic bespoke design process. It seemed fitting

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Speaker 3: to create a space that would house the design process

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Speaker 3: that was happening on a one to one level between

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Speaker 3: which in its day was dubbed the Versa of the industry,

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Speaker 3: and there is so much meaning to the place where

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Speaker 3: we're standing. It's really the heart of the American automotive industry.

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Speaker 3: But it also is the origin point of the American

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Speaker 3: mid century modern design. It was one of the first

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Speaker 2: An Aerosaronin did the Saint Louis arch He did the

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Speaker 3: And correct a Bunch and many many iconic chairs. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's why it's not only the automotive industry,

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Speaker 3: it's part of the architecture and fern and also modern

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Speaker 3: the catillag House and you see a fountain by Alexandra

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Speaker 1: And it really feels like you're in the heart of

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, on one side, you have the view

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Speaker 1: We're here with Aaron Crossley who's the design director for Celestic,

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Speaker 1: they're going to take us through the Celestic. We're standing

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Speaker 4: This is cybery yellow metallic.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the design and how this all came together.

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Speaker 4: It starts out as an actual sketch, as a vision,

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Speaker 4: That started the process and the development of creating three

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Speaker 4: and it was really very natural. Everybody was very invested,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we've talked a lot about a flagship

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Speaker 4: for Cadillac. Tony's worked on a lot of them. I've

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Speaker 4: And this just all of the pieces came together in

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Speaker 2: You know, it is a completely new proportion, super long wheelbase,

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Speaker 5: We had this maybe three quarter scale kind of vision model,

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Speaker 5: so we scanned it and tried to put people in it,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So you got to take something and start tugging

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Speaker 5: course of a fair amount of time, we quickly realized

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Speaker 5: You really just can't get these proportions with anything like that.

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Speaker 5: So we take our pouch cells that we normally put

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Speaker 2: And Domino's kind of exactly.

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Speaker 5: So we have stacks of six, nine, and twelves depending

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Speaker 2: And oh amazing, I had no idea. I thought this

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Speaker 5: It out right now, Well, you couldn't get it this short.

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Speaker 5: That proportions wouldn't be anywhere like this. The roof would

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Speaker 1: So how long and low it is, I can't think

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Speaker 5: We're I freaked exactly the number of like five millimeters

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Speaker 1: I think it's lower than a Malibu.

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Speaker 5: The proportions are crazy, like you said, and the working

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Speaker 5: this when it's by itself, you definitely get a sense

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Speaker 1: It has a huge impact when you see it on

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Speaker 5: Well, and back to your point about the roofline, the

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Speaker 5: wheel tire package, These twenty three inch wheels are basically

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Speaker 5: the same as an escalade, So it's got the wheel

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Speaker 2: I think it speaks to the overall size of the

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Speaker 5: That's the wheelbase. I think right that you need those

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Speaker 2: Well, walk us around it a little bit and tell

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things I'm proud I think the

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Speaker 4: they were always making these bold, unexpected design statements, and

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Speaker 4: I think Celestic continues that narrative for Cadillac. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of beauty in the simplicity of the form as well,

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Speaker 4: beautiful materials. I'm really proud of the work that the

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Speaker 1: There's carbon fiber body panels.

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Speaker 5: Right the hood, these front fenders, the rear quarter panels,

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Speaker 5: those are all carbon. The deck lid is also carbon,

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Speaker 5: The only reason the doors aren't carbon fiber is because

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Speaker 5: we needed them to be radar transparent. There's a radar

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Speaker 4: Of work done with the engineering teams around paint as well,

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Speaker 4: have such broad opportunities for color on the vehicle. I

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Speaker 4: think The other material note we love to talk about,

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Speaker 2: Tremendous amount of like subtlety and the line work and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that kind of crease in the door. It breaks

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on down the side of the car,

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Speaker 1: even though, like you said, at first glance it looks

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Speaker 4: Spent a lot of time perfecting that body.

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Speaker 2: Fide so Tony as the person responsible ultimately for things

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Speaker 2: the performance a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait until we get a chance for

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Speaker 5: you guys to drive this thing. It is like nothing

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Speaker 5: even motions, and these Mitchel entires completely overachieved on what

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Speaker 5: And the good news is it's in things that we're

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Speaker 5: So it's about giving the customer an experience that they

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Speaker 2: How did you achieve that it was such a low hoodline.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I drove that escalated V I was

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Speaker 1: I would think it's one of the major learnings. Oh

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and what is the volume ultimately, Well, we.

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Speaker 5: But yet we're not talking specific some volume beyond that.

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Speaker 2: Well, can we go inside it and check out the interior?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? First off, how do you open the doors any

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool the.

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Speaker 1: Leather smell coming off of this as soon as you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good seventies Yeah, that's exactly if you

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Speaker 5: It goes to the door all but it's the door

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Speaker 1: So that's an impressive screen up there. How big is

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Speaker 5: Fifty four inches? And this side over here has electronics

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Speaker 2: I want and the driver can't see it. Is this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's put it that way and then you can

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Speaker 1: It's like a triple seven window. And every piece in

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Speaker 4: Design, having overall design or form language that was fairly

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Speaker 5: We went for this low and away look. You can

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Speaker 1: Where are the batteries package? Now that we're sitting in

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Speaker 5: Right, So under Aaron and I here are the nine

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Speaker 5: super quiet.

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Speaker 2: So n n V. What is it stand? Oh, noise

441
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: and vibration. Okay, so that's the new there's no harshness

442
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: anymore because you don't have that.

443
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

444
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could just be I don't use the acronym, right,

445
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 5: that could be it too. So the stereo system thirty

446
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 5: six speakers inside?

447
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Speaker 1: Is that right?

448
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 5: Thirty eight speakers and then we have two outsides, so

449
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 5: you could say we've got forty we've got exterior speakers.

450
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: We've got a tailgate mode so if you're at a

451
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 5: car show, you can turn on and there's speakers outside,

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 5: or if you're washing your car, you can turn it on.

453
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 5: But the interior with the thirty eight speakers and the

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 5: AKG guys, if they're listening to this, they'll chuckle because

455
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: I've been telling them for years. And they won't let

456
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Speaker 5: me say the best audio system in the world because

457
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 5: that's a pretty subjective thing. But they know very clearly

458
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Speaker 5: that's been our goal. And we're in the middle of

459
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 5: the audio tuning.

460
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Speaker 2: Loops right now.

461
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 5: Spend a lot of time with them obsessing over all

462
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: those little details.

463
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Steely Ban records. Listen to a

464
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: lot of diverse music right now. You can imagine.

465
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Speaker 1: I wonder how long it would take if you just

466
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Speaker 1: were sitting in the car listening to the stereo. How

467
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Speaker 1: long it would take to discharge the battery.

468
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Speaker 5: We can calculate it, but it would be a very

469
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 5: long time. Yeah, this is the world's largest boombox. Four

470
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 5: weeks later you'd be deuff and out of.

471
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Speaker 2: What about the sort of sound signature of the vehicle itself,

472
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: what we're going for in terms of the sort of

473
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: over the road sounds.

474
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good question, and we've been working

475
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 5: on that as a brand I'd say, as the Cadillac brand,

476
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: we don't want this car to be too unique, and

477
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: on its own, it doesn't need to be. It's more

478
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 5: like everything else about the car. It wants to be

479
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 5: the most pure expression of Cadillac. So you'll find that

480
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 5: it'll be real similar to what you would find in

481
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 5: a lyric, only maybe just a touch more refined and

482
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 5: a touch more expressive. This car is all about quiet

483
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 5: and the quieter you make it. As you guys know,

484
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: you've driven so many cars over the years. I'm sure

485
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 5: we call it drain in the swamp, right, and you

486
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 5: start to notice those stumps that start sticking up and

487
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 5: the things that you never heard before when you finally

488
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 5: get everything else quieter. So we're obsessing over a lot

489
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 5: of really small little details.

490
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Speaker 1: So I noticed there's a V button on the steering wheel.

491
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: What does that enable?

492
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 5: So that enables what we call velocity mode. It lets

493
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 5: the inverters use all the range of their capacity. Normally

494
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 5: you don't, and like in velocity mode, it hurts range

495
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: a little bit because it keeps the battery conditioned in

496
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 5: a pretty narrow window. So you really only want to

497
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 5: use it if you really want all the power.

498
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: So I'm looking back at the cargo area, which is massive,

499
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: which offers some practicality to this car, but it's sort

500
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: of unexpected to build a essentially a hatchback out of

501
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: this giant vehicle. Yeah, so what was the thinking, why

502
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: isn't it a sedan?

503
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: Well, that was just driven by the shape. When you

504
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 5: look at that sketch there and talked about in the

505
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 5: very beginning, the lines that make the shape really demanded

506
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: that it not be a traditional, you know, three bucks

507
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 5: sedan that would have totally altered its characteristics. And there's

508
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: no logical place to put a bulkhead. I mean, trust me,

509
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 5: the engineers wanted to but that signature if we were

510
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 5: to get out and look in from the hatch, right,

511
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: that signature is one of the things that designers were

512
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: very obsessed with from the beginning. That four free standing

513
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: seats with this long center console.

514
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the seats are amazing. I don't have my dorometer

515
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: with me, but they're nice and soft, but also kind

516
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: of firm and supportive, and it feels like I'm not

517
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: sure where the adjustment is. It's virtual.

518
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: It's all virtual.

519
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm kind of reclined to back here.

520
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 5: It's the same, essentially the same seat in the front

521
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: of the rear. This is the first car I know

522
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: of that anybody's really done. Four of exactly the same

523
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: interesting forty way power seats with all the massage. The

524
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: arm rests and the center console arrests are all heated

525
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 5: active cooling, not just ventilation. You know, power head rests,

526
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: all the bells and whistles. You've got a next scarf.

527
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: You'll notice the little vent at the bottom. That's part

528
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: of what we do to create what we call micro

529
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 5: climate around each occupant, and that is much to the

530
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: EV part of it, right, for efficiency and range you

531
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: create you create this exactly local climate around the person

532
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: to make them comfortable, so you're not constantly conditioning this

533
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 5: huge cabin.

534
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been in some evs where I had some

535
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: range anxiety and shut everything down except for the heated seat.

536
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

537
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: Pulled off a real trick here because the cabin itself

538
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: isn't huge, and we're sitting in one that has a

539
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: black interior, but there's so much light, and we're sitting

540
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: in a car inside.

541
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: In the hill building.

542
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of it is this little sail

543
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: window back here that you look to your right and

544
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: it just brightens every I mean, it's a really amazing trick.

545
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: You pulled off here.

546
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: When you recline back even further and you look out

547
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 5: that window. Yet it's actually pretty comfortable. It's pretty cool.

548
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: Is this the longest duration project you both have ever

549
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: worked on? A five years?

550
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the longest single.

551
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Car single car.

552
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's rare.

553
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 5: For a chief engineer to really stick with a car

554
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: all the way from like that first vision model all

555
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: the way through the production.

556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: That's pretty rare.

557
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: And same from a design aspect as well, because usually

558
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: once they had an execution mode, we move on to

559
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: the next project. And also being able to have the

560
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 4: car and its entirety usually we have exterior team and

561
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 4: interior team to be able to be overseeing the vehicle

562
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 4: on it its entirety, I think speaks to the importance

563
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: of the vehicle.

564
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: So was this car from concept to production? Was it

565
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: designed and engineered with a price in mind? Or was

566
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: it designed and engineered first and then you said, this

567
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: is what it's going to cost.

568
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: And I'd be lying if I said we engineered it

569
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 5: to cost in any way?

570
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: Right?

571
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: So this was designed with a vision in mind, a

572
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 5: vision and experience. This is truly an exercise of what

573
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: we're capable of from a design and engineering standpoint. The

574
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: material choices we made there were definitely goals. If my

575
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 5: bosses are listening to this podcast, right, they'll be like,

576
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: wait a minute, you know we gave you goals, of course,

577
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 5: but yeah, this is more about more about that than

578
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: the price. And the price sort of landed where it did,

579
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 5: and it's in the range of what you would pay

580
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: for a rolls rice or something, So I don't think

581
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 5: that's going to shock anybody. I think what people need

582
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: to do now is they need to see it, they

583
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: need to experience it.

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: There was this holistic desire to do this vehicle and

585
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: to create this experience around it, and that was that everybody,

586
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: I think was equally passionate and committed to making that happen.

587
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 4: And it was kind of like, we will do what

588
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: we have to do to create that and we'll figure

589
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 4: the rest out as we go, but we need to

590
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: achieve the vision. And I think, you know, creating the

591
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: concept vehicle initially as well gave us that additional kind

592
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: of physical north star that this is what we're trying

593
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: to capture for production.

594
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: But just to be clear, this does not have the

595
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: north Star system, different north different.

596
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: North Star, but a word that has significance to the brand.

597
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to drive it be either.

598
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: Thank you both for this incredible walk around. What a treaty.

599
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: Thank you to be here.

600
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Thank you Eron, thank you Tony.

601
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for all.

602
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: So what happens after you decide to buy an over

603
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty thousand dollars Cadillac When we return,

604
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Eddie and I option out of Celestic as our private

605
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: two of Cadillac house continues?

606
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: Welcome back to car and drivers into cars.

607
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: So Eddie and I are about to go through the

608
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: client experience of specking out a Celestic and building our

609
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: own Celestics. And we're joined here by the concierge.

610
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Hi.

611
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 6: Yes, my name is Rob san Martin. I am one

612
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 6: of three concierge currently with the Celestic program.

613
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 7: Hi, my name is Maya Dagger and I am a

614
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 7: system marketing manager for Celestic Excellent.

615
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: Let's go through the process.

616
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go see.

617
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 6: So obviously, when you walk in, you're greeted by this

618
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 6: beautiful custom piece by Harry Bertoya. This is the first

619
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 6: commission piece ever by Bertoya and his largest, So essentially,

620
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 6: when we greet clients into this space, they see celestic

621
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 6: and all of its grandeur. Really, for any vehicle, photos

622
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 6: will never do it justice. So it's always a great

623
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 6: opportunity when we walk up these steps here to see

624
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: in its full presence. At two hundred and eighteen inches

625
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: in length, it's six inches longer than a standard escalade.

626
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 6: So again it's a very big vehicle, and it's very

627
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: impressive considering what it took to bring something of such

628
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 6: genuine quality into fruition. So this space in general, we

629
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 6: have such a great opportunity to customize how we surprise

630
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 6: and delight our clients. One client of mine in particular,

631
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 6: they had a love story from nineteen seventy one. They

632
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: fell over an El Dorado with a red interior and

633
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 6: a white exterior, and we partnered with the Archives who

634
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 6: had that exact same unit. We pulled it into the space.

635
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: Cool.

636
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a very touching moment. They definitely had

637
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 6: a connection to the vehicle.

638
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: Did they try to buy the Eldorado, No.

639
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: They did it.

640
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: They actually still in possession.

641
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: Of that, they own their own. Yeah. Cool.

642
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: So yeah, we've been fortunate. We have a lot of

643
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 6: clients that do have a storied past with GM and Cadillac.

644
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 6: In the spirit of surprise and delight and getting to

645
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 6: know our clients, we've met with them virtually, probably at

646
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 6: least three or four times before they come to this space,

647
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: we'll have understood their preferences.

648
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: So once customers see the car, where do you take that?

649
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: We do like the opportunity to give the client a

650
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 6: full vehicle walk around with a subject matter expert. So

651
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: we'll typically have, you know, a member from our engineering

652
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: team join us. But before we get to that and

653
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 6: we'll kind of pause here, move them over to our

654
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 6: lounge space, get them settled, get any refreshments that they want.

655
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 6: We'll also have a procured selection of food and beverage

656
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 6: out here. We'll let them settle. Once we feel like

657
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 6: the client is comfortable, we'll then transition back to the

658
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: vehicle and then do that full walk around experience.

659
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable, are you comforting? We're ready?

660
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: Great.

661
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: We have the opportunity to engage clients in any appointment

662
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: that they really want, and the clients always find something exciting,

663
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 6: something that they end up gravitating towards that you don't

664
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 6: really expect. I had a client recently that was so

665
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 6: fixated on the active rear spoiler that that's all we did.

666
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: We just played with activating it and disengaging it for

667
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 6: at least Yeah, So every client is unique, every client

668
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 6: journey is special.

669
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Part design expert or therapist.

670
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 6: Maybe oh oh, trust granm on call.

671
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: And so this is the first time the customers will

672
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: actually have seen the car too, yes, yeah, so they've

673
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: learned about it. How have they learned about the car?

674
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: So?

675
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really depends. We do things known as like

676
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 7: our Whisper events, so we invite like a curated selection

677
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 7: of people to those events and they will have seen

678
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 7: the vehicle there. Sometimes we do, you know, bring the

679
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: concierge or some of our subject matter experts to introduce them.

680
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 7: So everybody's coming in at different points in their journey.

681
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: A lot of people come to the website too, and

682
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 7: they look at the vehicle and there's a high level

683
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 7: interest there. Through our emails, all the traditional channels that

684
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 7: we would normally go through.

685
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 6: So we'll go through you know, a full program overview

686
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: regarding the vehicle, ask all those engineering questions, see the

687
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: vehicle for the first time for most clients, as you

688
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 6: had mentioned, and then we'll come to this space. As

689
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 6: I had mentioned, we would typically have their design on

690
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: the table. We would have all of those materials that

691
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 6: we're working with the design.

692
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, did they've selected already? Yes, from their virtual appoints. Yes,

693
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: everything would have been predetermined.

694
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: And so you have ninety basic colors on these bucks here,

695
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: all sort of arrayed in REIGBIV order.

696
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: Right now, we have seventy five actually on the wall

697
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 6: because it gets super overwhelming. And then on top of that,

698
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 6: we have a matte pairing for every single color that

699
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 6: we can do in mat and in this offering we

700
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 6: have everything from affect pigments, tricoats, tent coats, solid ceramics,

701
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 6: so we have a great mix of everything. We could

702
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: also do a custom development if a client had a

703
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 6: very specific color that they wanted to achieve.

704
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: So how many leathers do we have?

705
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 6: We have around ten leathers right now that are currently available.

706
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: So we've come in Eddie and I are We've had

707
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: a discussion with you already and now we've brought to

708
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: you some good ideas and some bad ideas. Okay, So

709
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: what's the next process. Do I walk over to that

710
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: wall and select my favorite leather. What's first?

711
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 6: I'd like to anchor us with the exterior color, to

712
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 6: be honest, because I feel like that's the crowning jewel

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 6: of the vehicle itself. With that being said, yeah, let's

714
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 6: go take a look. Could you tell me a little

715
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 6: bit about your current collection or some of the colors

716
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 6: and materials that you find yourself gravitating towards them life.

717
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm liking some of these lighter blues, Okay.

718
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: I have a nineteen ninety eight geoprism right very similar

719
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: to that, and I want to keep the family resemblance.

720
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 6: Okay, I like that, you know, in that blue space.

721
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 6: I would love to investigate maybe something that has a

722
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 6: little bit more of a metallic as well as let's

723
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 6: pull a solid and then just for fun, let's look

724
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 6: at this.

725
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: These are great blues, very cool, hard to choose. I

726
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: like that French blue in the middle.

727
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 6: Yes, I do too. We call that Carolina blue. These

728
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: blues are really unique.

729
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Right now.

730
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 6: We have things that lean more into that purple space,

731
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: like the hydrangea you had mentioned, are Carolina blue that's

732
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 6: more of like a cornflower blue, and then we lean

733
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 6: into this wonderland, which is more like a Robin's egg.

734
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: So with that being said, we're leaning more in this direction,

735
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 6: I believe.

736
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: Sure.

737
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 6: Okay, for that sounds good. Now if we talk about

738
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 6: the interior, could you tell me a little bit about

739
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 6: some of the spaces that you're inspired by. Where would

740
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: this vehicle typically reside.

741
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Here in Michigan?

742
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 6: Here in Michigan?

743
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want something a little bright for.

744
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: Those gray days.

745
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 6: Light and bright, I agree.

746
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: But I also love the Detroit Tigers, so I like,

747
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I want something baseball. Mit.

748
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 6: Okay, I have a huge you just plan the all right,

749
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: So I'm going to pull some of these fabrics. So

750
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: we have our cinnamons, our camea, and our sheer gray.

751
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 6: We can't go wrong with any of these. I like

752
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 6: the idea of maybe one primary color and then subtle

753
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: accents of the other.

754
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: I like this in him In as the primary and

755
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: Tomie as the accent.

756
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 6: Interesting.

757
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: So Rob, when you said, oh, interesting, does it mean

758
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: that guy's out of his mind or.

759
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 6: No? I just typically, you know, I'm not one to

760
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 6: do that subtle contrast. A lot of my clients like

761
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 6: something that's a little bit bolder, but I love that.

762
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: So we're looking at this gigantic sixteen foot diagonal screen.

763
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: And the car is being built for us in real

764
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: time with the options that we just selected.

765
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 6: So if you can see on the wall there, we

766
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 6: have already rendered that Carolina blue on the exteriors.

767
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: So we picked the exterior, we picked the cinnamon leather,

768
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: and now we're watching the accents get applied.

769
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to get ahead, but can I choose

770
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: my carpet color?

771
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: No, of course, this is where Tony really goes for bro.

772
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 6: That's pretty. So you'll see and all these fine accents

773
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 6: we've started to pull that contrast color.

774
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: It's nice, it's so cool.

775
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 6: It's a smart vehicle.

776
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: I like this.

777
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: I bet you say that to all the clients, trust me.

778
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I'm here to make sure that they're

779
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 6: not making a four hundred thousand dollars mistake. So there's

780
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: definitely been some choices that we've we've helped clients, you know,

781
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 6: steer them into a new direction.

782
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear how you're talking out of

783
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: my carpet. Are you gonna what?

784
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 6: Are you gonna choose the heat orange? So let's look

785
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 6: at format color.

786
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I like that red?

787
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you like that red?

788
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: You know what? Can I get the not just the forlorats,

789
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: but can I get the carpet carpet?

790
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can get the whole flooring in a different

791
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 6: color as well.

792
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, it's surprisingly okay, it.

793
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 6: Is surprisingly okay. And you know what, that's actually really funny.

794
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 6: I had a client recently that they were going with

795
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 6: four tones on the interior and we were just like wait.

796
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 6: But honestly, when it rendered, it was beautiful. We just

797
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: did accent piping, accent stitching, and an embroidered headrest in

798
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 6: a tress color as well.

799
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I've made a choice that I probably shouldn't have made. Yes,

800
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: talk me out of it. How do we do this?

801
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 6: I understand that you really love the red, but what

802
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 6: I'm really gathering is that maybe you're looking to do

803
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 6: something that's a little bit more bold.

804
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: I am. I'm very bold.

805
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

806
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: So with the exterior, we have that beautiful Carolina blue.

807
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 6: I'm thinking we can bring blue into this space. I

808
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: think it would be lovely if we, you know, we

809
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 6: have this lighter blue exterior, and then if we go

810
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 6: in and we pull the Phantom blue, which is probably

811
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: our deepest blue. It could work really nicely. Santom is

812
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 6: super chromatic, and Phantom also is that perfect accent for

813
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: a brown. Honestly, you can't.

814
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: Go wrong with it. It's bold enough to looks terrific.

815
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: Okay, it looks great. You love it, but it's not

816
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: what you want.

817
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: Can you do the lighter blue?

818
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's definitely look at the Santorini.

819
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: But it does look really nice.

820
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 6: So this is Santorini. What do we think?

821
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: It does?

822
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Remind me of my yacht?

823
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 6: It's very yacht adjacent, I hear you. To be fair,

824
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 6: we're going modern. I mean honestly with some of our

825
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 6: leather selections that we've made so far. We have our

826
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 6: cinnamon with that Santorini. Maybe we switch out the hard

827
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 6: decore for our Humana, which is our carbon fiber, and

828
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 6: then I think this could go into a whole nother direction.

829
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Was she selecting piping for the carpet car. Yes, very nice.

830
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 6: Just so you're aware, there's probably around three hundred thousand

831
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: areas within the vehicle that we're able to customize.

832
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. It it's really good. The piping has

833
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: gone to the seat color.

834
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: This will be perfect for Greece.

835
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: I's see.

836
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: So how does the pricing work?

837
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Right?

838
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: Not that I care about costs, you understand, well.

839
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: You know the MSRP is directly correlated to the selections

840
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 6: that we're making. Obviously, there are some significant price drivers

841
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 6: in the vehicle. There are some significant upgrades. But that

842
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 6: being said, it will just be determined by the selections

843
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: that we make. We do start at the three hundred

844
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: and forty thousand dollars mark or just north of that.

845
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: What is the most expensive celest One can build? Honestly,

846
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: the guys a limit?

847
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: And is this configurator? This configurator is not online?

848
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 6: This is it is not You can see the rendering

849
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: itself is pretty advanced, so it really takes support. All

850
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 6: you're talking about that's good, that's joke, But I actually don't.

851
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: Say.

852
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience in building really ugly

853
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: porsches on their configurators. So is there a cloth seat option?

854
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 6: There is a cloth seat back option, and then the

855
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 6: lower IP and mid range of the vehicle. We have

856
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 6: three cloth options.

857
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: So you're changing the piping of the seats right now. Yes,

858
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: we're just doing the center stripe very solid. And can

859
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: you do the center stripe in Canerini?

860
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: So the center stripe has changed colors there down the spine.

861
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Can I do my rear seats in a

862
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: different color than my front seats?

863
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: Yes, we can.

864
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: I love having the driver's seat one color and everything else.

865
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: Oh that's what you like.

866
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I like that?

867
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, every panel of the seat. Yep. Oh because

868
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: and this order, basically, this ticket it goes to the

869
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: craft's people sitting on this campus or yeah.

870
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 6: No, so we have our artists in center where the

871
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 6: vehicles are being built by hand. No more than two

872
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 6: a day will be built by hand, and they do

873
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: receive this actually in form of a book. We're documenting

874
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 6: our designs as we go and especially once they're finalized.

875
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 6: It's a very detailed book that's called a commissioning book,

876
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: and that is the bible for every single Celestic build.

877
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: There are so many possibilities there, really are. You could

878
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: just spend hours and hours and hours doing this.

879
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 6: And that's why you know. The design team, the color

880
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: and trim team, they developed a beautiful palette of available

881
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 6: offerings that we get to play with. And there are

882
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 6: no two Celestics better alike.

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Speaker 1: I think you're really leaving some website traffic on the

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Speaker 1: table here by not offering this can figurators.

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Speaker 2: This is the best configurator I ever.

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Speaker 6: Saw, but I also think it could definitely crash a server.

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Speaker 6: It's very heavy. We have our beautiful Santorini blue in

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Speaker 6: the lower portion of the vehicle as well. I really

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Speaker 6: love the combination of the strikingly bold with a classic

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Speaker 6: cinnamon caramel leather.

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Speaker 1: Tell me I have good taste.

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Speaker 6: You do have a good taste, you do, man.

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Speaker 2: What I've noticed is we've walked a long way from

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Speaker 2: what we had originally to here. Yeah, you've guided us expertly. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you've made your ideas our ideas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you made some great choices today. These are really fun.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to see it me too. From this point,

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Speaker 6: I would just, you know, generate an MSRP based off this.

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Speaker 6: I would work with our financial team to understand what

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Speaker 6: that was, provide it to the client for their review,

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Speaker 6: their approval.

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Speaker 1: And I bring the appropriate number of suitcases of cash.

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Speaker 6: Yes all, yeah, all fives. Please don't ask why? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: of course, thank you so lovely.

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Speaker 1: Meeting, Yeah, I was super fun.

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Speaker 1: Car friends. We hope you enjoyed the behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: tour of the Cadillac House and the Cadillacs Elistic. While

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Speaker 1: it might be the most expensive Cadillac ever built, it

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Speaker 1: also might be the most advanced and certainly the most special. Well.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the best configurator ever. Never seen

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Speaker 2: anything quite that extensive and elaborate and huge, So that

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Speaker 2: was really fun. But you know, this really does promise

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Speaker 2: a return to form for Cadillac. It's a long promised

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Speaker 2: flagship and I think they may have finally delivered it.

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Speaker 1: For more on the all new Cadillacts Elistic, visit carent

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Speaker 2: And tune in next week to see if the internal

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Speaker 2: combustion engine sounds and fake eight speed gearbox engineered into

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Speaker 2: the Hyundai IONIQ five n EV can successfully replicate the

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Speaker 2: experience of driving a combustion engine car. If you don't

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Speaker 2: like the idea of all this fake sound, this is

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Speaker 2: really cool. Sound is sound right? It's really cool?

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Speaker 1: Thake gearbox has done so convincingly.

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Speaker 1: and Driver and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio. Our show is hosted

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Speaker 1: by Eddie Alterman and myself Tony Kirogo. Our executive producer

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Speaker 1: is Matt Romano. Our ep of Post Production is Matt Stillo.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Sierra Kaiser. This show was edited

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Speaker 1: by Sierra Spreen special thanks to our location sound recordist

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Speaker 1: Matthew Cisco. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.