WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Roster Cutdown Preview (9/3) 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.040 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.639 by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here in 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:15.000 the bed MGM studio, September two o four, A M. E. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.560 A and I are basically gonna look ahead two roster 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:23.239 cuts this upcoming weekend. But I said it's Wednesday, September two, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.840 nine o four, because if something happens between now and 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.720 when this gets posted, it's not our faults. We know 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.879 the rosters, we have them in front of us posted 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.239 before Saturday. I'm just saying, if there's a move that 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.680 happens at noon on Wednesday, So we're talking roster today, Yeah, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.880 pretty much, position by position. Listen, you just meant in 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.199 September two September, one gym's opened in New Jersey. One 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.559 of our security guards here that one Jets drive was 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.560 telling me that he went to the gym yesterday. There's 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.600 only three people in there. What do you think, are 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.920 you personally going to go to a gym? I don't know. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.600 I don't know how to feel about it. I think 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.040 I think it also depends on the gym, like I do, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.520 miss wait, but I have two dumbbells at home, so 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.720 I don't I think that that might satisfy me enough, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.200 But you don't you get no machines at home, or 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.440 I don't have any machines at home in my apartment, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.720 So I think I might. I think I think I 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.360 want to let things. I want to see how other 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.840 people do in the gym before I get in there. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.800 You have to run outside because there's no way you 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.160 can go inside inside a gym and have a mask 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.720 on and run on that treadmill. No way, no no. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.759 But I mean, aren't the rules you have to wear 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.040 the mask the entire time in the gym? Right? I 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.040 just feel like in a non COVID world, pre COVID 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.680 people in the gym are animals and I don't mean 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.880 I don't like yeah, and they're just like people are dirty, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.840 people are grindy. And now I'm gonna have to trust 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.760 them to make sure that they're taking the precautions not 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.600 only in the gym but in their daily life. I 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.399 don't know how, don't it's it's a difference. There's only 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:16.000 different workouts though, yeah, I know which. I do love 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.079 the body weight workouts, but I had a set of 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.960 at home, and I'm like, I need some load, I 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.840 need some more weight fortunately for us here we got 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.560 a little bit of a break knock on glass. That 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.519 little Jim downstairs we have access to. Yeah, the dumballs 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.560 go up to fifty palms. So I was in there 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.799 last night, so and I wanted to show everybody here. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.160 We got the tracker. We got the Tier three tracker 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:50.480 here in Covidville. Show it off. Yeah, this is how. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:55.000 This is how we go down there. I'm joking. I'm 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.359 joking about that because we're blessed to be inside. This 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.400 is breaking was here in the pod. Not the players 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:07.320 are coaches Gym to call it affectionately, the little kids Jym. Okay, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.959 the little kids Jim. We can go in there. That's good. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.040 That's good to know. All right. So we're moving on 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.919 here on the Official Jets Podcast. Like we said, roster 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.160 cutdowns coming up this weekend, just to give a quick 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:25.120 timeline of how everything's gonna shape out. September five, four pm, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.799 which is Saturday, I believe, is when the roster needs 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.480 to get cut down to fifty three players by four pm. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.360 Then after that the next day kind of it's twofold. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.040 You have your waiver claim period that ends at noon 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.640 on September six, so basically four pm on Saturday. At 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.600 twelve pm on Sundays when teams will claim players, and 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.920 then later that day the practice squad. You can start 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.160 to form your practice squad an hour after the waiver 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.960 claim period ends at one. But there's a bunch of 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:58.560 different practice squad rules. This year, it's typically ten players. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.040 Now it's twelve players. I don't want for twelve to 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.960 sixteen is the correct Well, according to Sporting News, the 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.160 way that I'm reading this says that the size of 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.520 the practice squad players from ten players to twelve players 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:18.840 for it'll increase again to fourteen two. But I think maybe, okay, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.440 it was supposed to be twelve in the new cb 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.760 A and then COVID bumped it up to six teams 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.039 for two thousand twenty, and this is kind of big news. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.840 You can have six veterans on the practice squad with 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:37.640 an unlimited number of accrued seasons outside or typically it's two. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.560 Now it's six, so that that means that you can 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:45.760 bring basically anybody on your practice squad that doesn't necessarily 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.679 need to be under the two accrued season. The trick 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.440 with the practice squad is always you like these guys 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.560 and you want to continue to develop them. And mostly 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.839 they're gonna be used obviously for young players. But this 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.040 year you can take a few more veterans. But any 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.400 other team can scoop up and sign those guys on 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.720 your practice squad any day. You're right, but I think 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.200 this year different. You can block I think up to 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.200 four players that you can say you can't touch these guys. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.600 So let's say, for example, I'm thinking of a practice 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.920 squad player last year. Jeff Smith was a practice squad 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.320 player for the the majority of last year. So let's say 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.320 somebody like him is on the practice squad, the Jets 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.599 want to keep him. You can say that guy you can't, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.720 you can't take him, you can't scoop him. What if 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.960 there's multiple attempted signings on that A K Jeff Smith, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.599 I don't know. I don't know the I don't know 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:47.840 the ins and outplay reviews. I think you have four 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.919 blocks and you can just use them as you have 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.000 to use them every week. So so I think it's 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.000 gonna be a learning process for all of us. And 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.680 then the other thing that NFL teams are deon with 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.440 is UH and we've been talking about it through the summer, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:06.160 no preseason games, So especially when you're evaluating those special 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.200 teams performers, I think brand Boyer has a big challenge 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.080 because he never saw these guys under the lights and 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:19.839 going quote unquote full speed tackled down during two or 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.599 three or four games. One more thing on the practice 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.080 squad before we go through the roster and just kind 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.800 of evaluate each position, is this is a new wrinkle 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:34.200 for two thousand twenty. Each game day, teams have the 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.720 option to promote one or two practice squad players to 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.120 their active roster. But it doesn't you don't need a 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.960 corresponding move. So let's just use our Jeff Smith example. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.000 Let's say well, this was last season, he's on the 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.200 practice squad. The Jets can promote him for game day, 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:52.760 and then after the game, he'd just be back on 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.719 the practice squad. So there's no corresponding move that you 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.920 need to make because you have that that wiggle room 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.760 one to two players each game, which I think is interesting. Yeah, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.880 And the good thing about that too is that you know, 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.280 you put in that game plan early in the week 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.200 and then you go and implement that on the field Wednesday, Thursday, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:17.360 and Friday, and then typically what we see is teams 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.920 who are moving up somebody from the practice squad. They 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.080 do that as late as possible on Saturday afternoon, so 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.280 you're not preparing for that person per se, and it 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.720 just gives you more flexibility. Bottom line here um on 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:35.840 Chartered Waters. The rosters were ninety at the beginning of 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.920 all training camps before this eighty this year. So the 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:45.840 Jets specifically, we're dealing with with depth numbers issues and 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.680 a few positions throughout camp, most notably wide receiver, but 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:55.040 cornerbacks impacted as well, and then lately it's been safety. Yeah, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.520 it's it's been a whirlwind of injuries for the Jets 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.080 and a lot of moving parts as always in training camp. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.520 Let's dive into position by position here. We'll just kind 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.040 of rip through these guys and rip through these positions. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.280 Let's start with the quarterbacks. You know, Sam Donald is 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.280 the guy, and then the guys after him. It's been 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.440 a three guys because Joe Flacco is still on the 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:22.080 physically unable to perform list, David Fails, James Morgan, and 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.800 Mike White if Joe Flacco is still on the pup lists. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.679 Last year, the Jets only carried two quarterbacks with Donald 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.520 and Simeon. Something to keep your eye on this season. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.599 Mike White practice squad player. Last year, David Fails was 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.160 on the roster. They traft James Morgan. It's kind of 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.760 a crowded backup room, flac of thirty five years old. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.160 He's gonna be your primary backup whenever he's healthy. We 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.640 all know that. But is he one of those guys 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.160 that we don't have to worry about in terms of 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.720 the fifty three. That's what you would imagine right now 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.000 that he would be potentially an I R designate designated 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.360 to return right Um, he's cooking up the offense. You 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.520 see him talking to Sam Donald a lot in Adam 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:08.000 caze Um. Obviously we know his story a starting quarterback 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.840 in the National Football League. So whenever he's back healthy, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.560 the Jets are gonna be in very good position behind 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.480 Sam Donald. We know. We talked about it numerous times 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.640 zero on six the last two years when Donald hasn't practiced, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.800 it's been interesting to watch the reps between Mike White 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.040 and David Fails. David Fails actually has some NFL experience, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:32.319 but Sunday, specifically specifically at the Green and White scrimmage. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.480 We saw I got during second team reps they would 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:40.520 alternate each rep times. Yeah, the there's no real rep 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.520 structure that I've noticed between David Fails and Mike White. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.920 They almost just kind of go back and forth. One 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.280 team period, maybe Fails will get the second team reps 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.640 and then the next one it's Mike White and James 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.680 Morgan works in there later on in practice. It's gonna 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.880 be interesting to see what happens. But the one thing 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.920 that I think we should clarify, if a player like 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.200 Joe Flacco is placed on i R or the physically 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.920 unable to perform list, that's not counted against the fifty three, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.199 so that that decision then comes later when you want 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.800 to activate a player like that. The pressing question is 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.880 who is the backing backup quarterback opening day in Buffalo? 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.480 Uh White. You could make the argument that in the 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.800 action that we've seen has been the more impressive than 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.679 two Maybe said some stronger showings out there, But Fels 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.880 knows Adam Gates's offense, and he also has NFL experience. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.000 I like what I've seen out of James Morrigan. He's 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.600 a developmental quarterback. You took him in the fourth round 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.600 out f iu Um. But he's got an interesting arm 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.000 and sometimes he can really whip it from different angles. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.920 And I know he grew up loving bread Fire. I 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.840 I'm not comparing him to the Bread five or anything 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.240 like that, but he's got very good arm strength and 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.560 you like his size. Yeah. We saw one throw where 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.480 it's almost an in between um, your standard throw and 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.040 your Philip Rivers throw, So like if this is where 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.120 the ball would come out and this is where Philip rivers, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.200 he was kind of here. It was a very interesting 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.480 angle and it was a rocket. It jumps off the stand, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.760 it does he can spin it, all right. Let's move 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.200 on to running back here. You know who's up top, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.480 Lady on Bell, Frank Gore and the Michael p Ryan 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.439 you would imagine is on this roster. It's hard to 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:29.120 imagine not him not on the roster. Um major injury 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.560 there because it looked bad that when he was tackled 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.480 by Frankie Louvu the other day. But just a lower 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.520 ankle sprain, so that's good. And the other two running 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.319 backs on this roster as it stands, Josh Adams and 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.520 Pete Carrero. And I think i'd defer to you on this, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.280 but I feel like it depends. This is where numbers 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.040 game shakes into play. Do you keep four? Do you 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.640 keep three? And then when looking at Adams and Guerrero 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.280 is one of those guys if you do keep for 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.920 is one of those guys more valuable on special teams 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.800 then the other. It's a great question. And listen, Josh 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.719 Adams was playing awfully well in this training camp and 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.840 now you went down with the hamstring, just got back 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.720 this week. But he's a guy who was producing the 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.000 National Football League a few years back, most notably of 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.960 Russian for more than five hundred yards with Philadelphia Eagles. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.440 He's a big back. Um. I think he definitely can 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.600 play in this league. So to me, it's are you 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.280 keeping three or four? And you might be very comfortable 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.840 having Adams as your fourth guy. Josh Adams, I think 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.920 people forget about this two seasons ago lead the Eagles 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.040 in Russia, and of course Show Douglas was a part 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.120 of that staff. Comes here. I believe Josh Adams was 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.840 a waiver claim last year. Braxon Barrios was definitely a 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.640 waiver claim, so is John Franklin Myers the Jets. We're 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.559 gonna have big time issues at the running back position 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:56.120 just to complete a practice because it was looking like 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.000 is this gonna be lev and Frank Gore and they 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.840 were like, hey, Adam, that's great, let's take in cases 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:09.360 like you're thirty seven. Your listen. I love your enthusiasm 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.400 and your passion. But that was the day Josh Adams 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.040 got back and I'm all right, we're gonna move on 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:21.280 to receivers. Now, this is a very interesting dynamic here. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.080 We could do a whole show on receivers, I guess, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.200 but the Jeff receivers are always the most popular position 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.320 in training camp without a doubt. But I think this 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.760 is an interesting dynamic because the Jets have a lot 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:38.440 of receivers right now on their roster, even though they're 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.640 banged up. I mean, you look at guys like Vincent Smith, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.560 Shot Perriman, and Denzel Mims as we're recording this have 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 yet to return to practice. Denzel Mims we haven't seen 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.200 in practice once. Shot Peerman has been out like a 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.760 week with his niece swilling. Then you think about the 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.520 guys that you brought in and were the guys that 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.959 were taking reps for those guys, Jeff Smith gets hurt. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.160 Then you look at the guys that have stepped up recently. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:07.240 You're talking about Josh Malone, Jhu chess On and Chris Hogan, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.640 of course, George Campbell. There's a lot of players at 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.240 receiver right now. Lawrence Casi has been banged up. I 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:19.000 mean he This is a tough tough room because how 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.840 do you balance injury versus guys that you want on 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.240 your team and guys that you might just need on 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:31.800 your team because of the injured guys. There's also waivers. Yes, again, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:37.240 there are deep position groups that teams have. In some teams, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.800 like we saw it with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.920 a lot of receivers, so Mike Evans at the top, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.400 Chris Godwin one of the butter combinations of National Football League, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.240 and Perryman finally got his run late in the year. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.320 And he was one of the best receivers in the league. Um, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.000 I gotta look at it this way. Crowder's your number 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.960 one guy. I'm not saying he's playing the acts. Of course, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.920 we know that he's gonna be lining up in the 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.360 slot and he's gonna be targeted a ton of times. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.800 He's had a very impressive camp. Somebody the other day 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.760 asked me, it's like I haven't really heard a lot 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.280 about Crowder, Like, yeah, just Sam throws him the wall 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:20.200 every other play. He's just solid. So Jamison, you're hoping 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.560 you mentioned Perriman in the knee. They were hoping they 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.760 got him back last weekend. We'll have to see what 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.640 happens on the practice field again. A reminder to everybody, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.040 we're taping Wednesday morning, we're going out in the practice field. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.640 He was dealing with some swelling with the need, but 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.080 he's gonna be here. Hogan is a guy who's coming 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.760 in and has had no difficulty picking up the offense, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.120 A veteran guy with a chip on his shoulder. You 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:49.320 already can see that Donald has established some trust in him, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.840 so I would think that he's gonna be here. Denzel 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.760 MIM's gotta get him on the practice field. Loves potential. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.880 How good has he been keeping up with the mental reps? 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.600 The Jets like approach. Uh, you feel bad for the kid, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.760 but you can't rush them back. So of course you 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.320 know they're hoping as we tape that he gets back 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.200 on the practice field here later this week. That probably 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.760 starts with individuals. Now, could Mims be ruled out week 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.960 one and Buffalo, of course, but Adam Gates was not 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.800 rolling that out yesterday said we'll have to see what happens, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.320 and I'll tell you what. The last guy to mention 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.960 in the group, I think it was Braxon Burrios before 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.720 we get to all the other guys, because Burrios has 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.600 had an outstanding and I'm not just talking about special 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.200 teams anytime he's been out there, because he's your second slot, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.840 he's to turn it all. Yeah, he is. He's had 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.520 a very impressive camp, particularly on the offensive side of 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.800 the ball. I mean he might have had the catch 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.720 of Camp in the back of the end zone from 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.600 Mike White, the one that you thought he was definitely 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.600 out of bounds, and then Braxon Burrios had some fantastic 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.680 toe drag swag. I think that Braxon Barrios has been 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.440 very impressive. And he's another guy we talked about all 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.280 these dudes at it's their second year in the offense, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.600 like Donald, like Herndon, even on the defensive side of 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.760 the ball like Quinnin. Somebody like Braxon Burrios that is 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:20.440 extremely smart. Valedictorian at Miami, Sean Jefferson said the receiver's 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.440 coach said that he leans on Burrios a lot, saying like, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.480 you know, do you think I missed anything? Like He's 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.040 a very smart dude. And Braxton Barrios with another year 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.600 learning this system, has shown his development on the field. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.919 Speed of development. A Lawrence Cage was coming on before 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.120 he went down with the knee. Uh, he's been out there, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.919 not with the helmet just yet. We'll have to see 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.040 how he progresses. George Campbell's a guy can fly out 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.000 of West Virginia. We think about a couple of veterans 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.000 here in the mix. U J. J. Who chess On 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.920 made a big play here at the end of the 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.879 late game situation to man at work when Sam Donald 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.159 threw in. He's made a few plays out here. And 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.320 then Josh Malone you can't forget about him too, and 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.239 what kind of value he brings the special team. So, uh, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.119 that first group, I think you know who it is, 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:15.119 the first five, first to first five, and then what 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.119 are you gonna do beyond that? That's the question. The 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.320 other wrinkle in this is Dante Moncrief has had one 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.959 practice with the Jets so far, so we'll see how 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.760 quickly he can learn the offense, if he can make 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.199 a difference. And I'm very interested to see what happens 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.280 Saturday with him in particular, because how do you how 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.960 do you try to fully evaluate somebody like Moncrieff who 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.680 has experienced and he can fly and can move. So 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:44.600 that's a great point. And so if you go Moncrief there, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.200 any of the young guys or any of the young 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.359 Vets get any run or there's not any room for 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.439 them at this point. Yeah, we'll see what happens. It's 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.359 gonna be interesting and moving on here. I just I 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.200 want to pick up the pace with all right, tight 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.399 end done, tight ends basis tight ends. I mean, you 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.119 know Hernan Griffin and then you would imagine Brown and 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.880 West go. You'll see between that, Ross, Travis and KAFUSI. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.879 I mean, we'll see what happens towards the back end 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.880 of the tight end room. But let me just sit deep. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.520 The West Coast had one of the most impressive camps 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.359 out here. Uh, he's really developed and Brown is a 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.520 key special team's contributor. Um, so let's to see and 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.920 that's one of your deepest position groups. All right, moving 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.480 on to the offensive line. You figured the guys that 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.280 were brought in the off season, for the majority of them, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.719 Fat McGovern, Beckton, who else? Who else am I missing here? 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.240 Van Roton? Alex Lewis is still Alex Lewis. I mean, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.000 those guys are here. You're really looking at the back 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:52.280 end of the offensive line in general. But Chuma Adoga 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.120 can play both tackle spots. Cameron Clark has gotten back 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.359 on the practice field. Josh Andrews is a guy who 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.560 we don't talk about enough, I think, but he's gonna 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.400 give you a lot of valuable depth on the interior. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.120 And then you also have Jonathan Harrison. Yeah, we'll see 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.480 what happens with some of the guys like Jared Hilbert's 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.800 undrafted free agent. We'll see. I mean, if Connor McDermott 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.399 ends up on the physically unable to perform list, do 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.560 the Jets just roll with Chumadoga as their swing tackle, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.360 or maybe they try to have another backup tackle. We'll 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.680 see what happens. All right, defensive side of the ball here, 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.160 Let's keep things up front. Let's go to the d line. 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.240 This is one of the deepest groups on this team. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.360 I mean, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room here, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.560 but it's similar to tight end. You're looking at the 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.919 back end and the final few spots. Yeah, and to 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.800 your point, listen, you got Steve McLendon who's still going strong. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.240 He's the veteran leader of that unit and he is 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.840 a big time presence inside this facility. Quinn and Williams 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.480 came back to camp and tremendous shape. He has high 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:02.720 hopes for this Sea eason, and he's got unique athletic ability. Uh, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.159 full of runs of fatakas. He became one of the 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.520 better run stuffers, not only on this team, but you 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.840 can make the argument maybe one of the better run 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.880 stuffers in the National Football League. And then he got 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.359 jep Dog Nathan Shepperd too strong as hell there on 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.920 the interior. And then um, you know, Henry Anderson, I 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.040 don't know you you consider him more of a D 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:26.160 d N. But you know, when you're talking about that unit, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.200 you're you're feeling pretty good where you're at. Defensive tackle. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.480 Henry Anderson is I think has been a little under 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.119 the radars, flown under the radar throughout training camp. I 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.879 think he's been impressive from the practices we've seen. Granted, 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.200 you can't go like a thousand miles per hour because 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.440 he's not gonna go after Sam Donald. You gotta pull 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.680 up and you're going to get your teammates. He's extremely 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.359 long too, and then that can disrupt the quarterback because 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.280 you want to get in quarterback planes right so he 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.080 can get his hands up. He had, he had a 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.040 very good year's first year here in terms of past defenses. 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.040 Seven sacks, code led the Jets. Moving on a linebacker, 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.640 you feel good with where you're at. I think at 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.639 the the inside, Avery Williamson, Neville Hewitt, Blake Cashman, James 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.600 Burgess in that list, Patrick Owasso will see his what 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.120 the deal is with his knee injury. Adam Gates said 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.800 about five weeks right, that was that might be a 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.720 typical Pop candidate. As we sit here and then you're 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.280 looking at the outside guys, and you got guys like 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.440 George Jenkins to al bash him. And the one guy 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.679 that I think you and I both think has had 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.159 a very good camp is Frankie Lulu, who's the special 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.919 team stalwart. Frankie has been very good. You can, potentially, 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:36.320 if you want to, you can line them up on 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.760 the strong side. If you really go to a typical 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.919 base defense. Uh. Kyle Phillips last year, Uh really jumped 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.480