Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered
Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here in
Speaker 1: the bed MGM studio, September two o four, A M. E.
Speaker 1: A and I are basically gonna look ahead two roster
Speaker 1: cuts this upcoming weekend. But I said it's Wednesday, September two,
Speaker 1: nine o four, because if something happens between now and
Speaker 1: when this gets posted, it's not our faults. We know
Speaker 1: the rosters, we have them in front of us posted
Speaker 1: before Saturday. I'm just saying, if there's a move that
Speaker 1: happens at noon on Wednesday, So we're talking roster today, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much, position by position. Listen, you just meant in
Speaker 1: September two September, one gym's opened in New Jersey. One
Speaker 1: of our security guards here that one Jets drive was
Speaker 1: telling me that he went to the gym yesterday. There's
Speaker 1: only three people in there. What do you think, are
Speaker 1: you personally going to go to a gym? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about it. I think
Speaker 1: I think it also depends on the gym, like I do,
Speaker 1: miss wait, but I have two dumbbells at home, so
Speaker 1: I don't I think that that might satisfy me enough,
Speaker 1: But you don't you get no machines at home, or
Speaker 1: I don't have any machines at home in my apartment,
Speaker 1: So I think I might. I think I think I
Speaker 1: want to let things. I want to see how other
Speaker 1: people do in the gym before I get in there.
Speaker 1: You have to run outside because there's no way you
Speaker 1: can go inside inside a gym and have a mask
Speaker 1: on and run on that treadmill. No way, no no.
Speaker 1: But I mean, aren't the rules you have to wear
Speaker 1: the mask the entire time in the gym? Right? I
Speaker 1: just feel like in a non COVID world, pre COVID
Speaker 1: people in the gym are animals and I don't mean
Speaker 1: I don't like yeah, and they're just like people are dirty,
Speaker 1: people are grindy. And now I'm gonna have to trust
Speaker 1: them to make sure that they're taking the precautions not
Speaker 1: only in the gym but in their daily life. I
Speaker 1: don't know how, don't it's it's a difference. There's only
Speaker 1: different workouts though, yeah, I know which. I do love
Speaker 1: the body weight workouts, but I had a set of
Speaker 1: at home, and I'm like, I need some load, I
Speaker 1: need some more weight fortunately for us here we got
Speaker 1: a little bit of a break knock on glass. That
Speaker 1: little Jim downstairs we have access to. Yeah, the dumballs
Speaker 1: go up to fifty palms. So I was in there
Speaker 1: last night, so and I wanted to show everybody here.
Speaker 1: We got the tracker. We got the Tier three tracker
Speaker 1: here in Covidville. Show it off. Yeah, this is how.
Speaker 1: This is how we go down there. I'm joking. I'm
Speaker 1: joking about that because we're blessed to be inside. This
Speaker 1: is breaking was here in the pod. Not the players
Speaker 1: are coaches Gym to call it affectionately, the little kids Jym. Okay,
Speaker 1: the little kids Jim. We can go in there. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good to know. All right. So we're moving on
Speaker 1: here on the Official Jets Podcast. Like we said, roster
Speaker 1: cutdowns coming up this weekend, just to give a quick
Speaker 1: timeline of how everything's gonna shape out. September five, four pm,
Speaker 1: which is Saturday, I believe, is when the roster needs
Speaker 1: to get cut down to fifty three players by four pm.
Speaker 1: Then after that the next day kind of it's twofold.
Speaker 1: You have your waiver claim period that ends at noon
Speaker 1: on September six, so basically four pm on Saturday. At
Speaker 1: twelve pm on Sundays when teams will claim players, and
Speaker 1: then later that day the practice squad. You can start
Speaker 1: to form your practice squad an hour after the waiver
Speaker 1: claim period ends at one. But there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: different practice squad rules. This year, it's typically ten players.
Speaker 1: Now it's twelve players. I don't want for twelve to
Speaker 1: sixteen is the correct Well, according to Sporting News, the
Speaker 1: way that I'm reading this says that the size of
Speaker 1: the practice squad players from ten players to twelve players
Speaker 1: for it'll increase again to fourteen two. But I think maybe, okay,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be twelve in the new cb
Speaker 1: A and then COVID bumped it up to six teams
Speaker 1: for two thousand twenty, and this is kind of big news.
Speaker 1: You can have six veterans on the practice squad with
Speaker 1: an unlimited number of accrued seasons outside or typically it's two.
Speaker 1: Now it's six, so that that means that you can
Speaker 1: bring basically anybody on your practice squad that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: need to be under the two accrued season. The trick
Speaker 1: with the practice squad is always you like these guys
Speaker 1: and you want to continue to develop them. And mostly
Speaker 1: they're gonna be used obviously for young players. But this
Speaker 1: year you can take a few more veterans. But any
Speaker 1: other team can scoop up and sign those guys on
Speaker 1: your practice squad any day. You're right, but I think
Speaker 1: this year different. You can block I think up to
Speaker 1: four players that you can say you can't touch these guys.
Speaker 1: So let's say, for example, I'm thinking of a practice
Speaker 1: squad player last year. Jeff Smith was a practice squad
Speaker 1: player for the the majority of last year. So let's say
Speaker 1: somebody like him is on the practice squad, the Jets
Speaker 1: want to keep him. You can say that guy you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't take him, you can't scoop him. What if
Speaker 1: there's multiple attempted signings on that A K Jeff Smith,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the I don't know
Speaker 1: the ins and outplay reviews. I think you have four
Speaker 1: blocks and you can just use them as you have
Speaker 1: to use them every week. So so I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a learning process for all of us. And
Speaker 1: then the other thing that NFL teams are deon with
Speaker 1: is UH and we've been talking about it through the summer,
Speaker 1: no preseason games, So especially when you're evaluating those special
Speaker 1: teams performers, I think brand Boyer has a big challenge
Speaker 1: because he never saw these guys under the lights and
Speaker 1: going quote unquote full speed tackled down during two or
Speaker 1: three or four games. One more thing on the practice
Speaker 1: squad before we go through the roster and just kind
Speaker 1: of evaluate each position, is this is a new wrinkle
Speaker 1: for two thousand twenty. Each game day, teams have the
Speaker 1: option to promote one or two practice squad players to
Speaker 1: their active roster. But it doesn't you don't need a
Speaker 1: corresponding move. So let's just use our Jeff Smith example.
Speaker 1: Let's say well, this was last season, he's on the
Speaker 1: practice squad. The Jets can promote him for game day,
Speaker 1: and then after the game, he'd just be back on
Speaker 1: the practice squad. So there's no corresponding move that you
Speaker 1: need to make because you have that that wiggle room
Speaker 1: one to two players each game, which I think is interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the good thing about that too is that you know,
Speaker 1: you put in that game plan early in the week
Speaker 1: and then you go and implement that on the field Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: and Friday, and then typically what we see is teams
Speaker 1: who are moving up somebody from the practice squad. They
Speaker 1: do that as late as possible on Saturday afternoon, so
Speaker 1: you're not preparing for that person per se, and it
Speaker 1: just gives you more flexibility. Bottom line here um on
Speaker 1: Chartered Waters. The rosters were ninety at the beginning of
Speaker 1: all training camps before this eighty this year. So the
Speaker 1: Jets specifically, we're dealing with with depth numbers issues and
Speaker 1: a few positions throughout camp, most notably wide receiver, but
Speaker 1: cornerbacks impacted as well, and then lately it's been safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's been a whirlwind of injuries for the Jets
Speaker 1: and a lot of moving parts as always in training camp.
Speaker 1: Let's dive into position by position here. We'll just kind
Speaker 1: of rip through these guys and rip through these positions.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the quarterbacks. You know, Sam Donald is
Speaker 1: the guy, and then the guys after him. It's been
Speaker 1: a three guys because Joe Flacco is still on the
Speaker 1: physically unable to perform list, David Fails, James Morgan, and
Speaker 1: Mike White if Joe Flacco is still on the pup lists.
Speaker 1: Last year, the Jets only carried two quarterbacks with Donald
Speaker 1: and Simeon. Something to keep your eye on this season.
Speaker 1: Mike White practice squad player. Last year, David Fails was
Speaker 1: on the roster. They traft James Morgan. It's kind of
Speaker 1: a crowded backup room, flac of thirty five years old.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be your primary backup whenever he's healthy. We
Speaker 1: all know that. But is he one of those guys
Speaker 1: that we don't have to worry about in terms of
Speaker 1: the fifty three. That's what you would imagine right now
Speaker 1: that he would be potentially an I R designate designated
Speaker 1: to return right Um, he's cooking up the offense. You
Speaker 1: see him talking to Sam Donald a lot in Adam
Speaker 1: caze Um. Obviously we know his story a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. So whenever he's back healthy,
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna be in very good position behind
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. We know. We talked about it numerous times
Speaker 1: zero on six the last two years when Donald hasn't practiced,
Speaker 1: it's been interesting to watch the reps between Mike White
Speaker 1: and David Fails. David Fails actually has some NFL experience,
Speaker 1: but Sunday, specifically specifically at the Green and White scrimmage.
Speaker 1: We saw I got during second team reps they would
Speaker 1: alternate each rep times. Yeah, the there's no real rep
Speaker 1: structure that I've noticed between David Fails and Mike White.
Speaker 1: They almost just kind of go back and forth. One
Speaker 1: team period, maybe Fails will get the second team reps
Speaker 1: and then the next one it's Mike White and James
Speaker 1: Morgan works in there later on in practice. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens. But the one thing
Speaker 1: that I think we should clarify, if a player like
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is placed on i R or the physically
Speaker 1: unable to perform list, that's not counted against the fifty three,
Speaker 1: so that that decision then comes later when you want
Speaker 1: to activate a player like that. The pressing question is
Speaker 1: who is the backing backup quarterback opening day in Buffalo?
Speaker 1: Uh White. You could make the argument that in the
Speaker 1: action that we've seen has been the more impressive than
Speaker 1: two Maybe said some stronger showings out there, But Fels
Speaker 1: knows Adam Gates's offense, and he also has NFL experience.
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen out of James Morrigan. He's
Speaker 1: a developmental quarterback. You took him in the fourth round
Speaker 1: out f iu Um. But he's got an interesting arm
Speaker 1: and sometimes he can really whip it from different angles.
Speaker 1: And I know he grew up loving bread Fire. I
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing him to the Bread five or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but he's got very good arm strength and
Speaker 1: you like his size. Yeah. We saw one throw where
Speaker 1: it's almost an in between um, your standard throw and
Speaker 1: your Philip Rivers throw, So like if this is where
Speaker 1: the ball would come out and this is where Philip rivers,
Speaker 1: he was kind of here. It was a very interesting
Speaker 1: angle and it was a rocket. It jumps off the stand,
Speaker 1: it does he can spin it, all right. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to running back here. You know who's up top,
Speaker 1: Lady on Bell, Frank Gore and the Michael p Ryan
Speaker 1: you would imagine is on this roster. It's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine not him not on the roster. Um major injury
Speaker 1: there because it looked bad that when he was tackled
Speaker 1: by Frankie Louvu the other day. But just a lower
Speaker 1: ankle sprain, so that's good. And the other two running
Speaker 1: backs on this roster as it stands, Josh Adams and
Speaker 1: Pete Carrero. And I think i'd defer to you on this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it depends. This is where numbers
Speaker 1: game shakes into play. Do you keep four? Do you
Speaker 1: keep three? And then when looking at Adams and Guerrero
Speaker 1: is one of those guys if you do keep for
Speaker 1: is one of those guys more valuable on special teams
Speaker 1: then the other. It's a great question. And listen, Josh
Speaker 1: Adams was playing awfully well in this training camp and
Speaker 1: now you went down with the hamstring, just got back
Speaker 1: this week. But he's a guy who was producing the
Speaker 1: National Football League a few years back, most notably of
Speaker 1: Russian for more than five hundred yards with Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: He's a big back. Um. I think he definitely can
Speaker 1: play in this league. So to me, it's are you
Speaker 1: keeping three or four? And you might be very comfortable
Speaker 1: having Adams as your fourth guy. Josh Adams, I think
Speaker 1: people forget about this two seasons ago lead the Eagles
Speaker 1: in Russia, and of course Show Douglas was a part
Speaker 1: of that staff. Comes here. I believe Josh Adams was
Speaker 1: a waiver claim last year. Braxon Barrios was definitely a
Speaker 1: waiver claim, so is John Franklin Myers the Jets. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have big time issues at the running back position
Speaker 1: just to complete a practice because it was looking like
Speaker 1: is this gonna be lev and Frank Gore and they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, Adam, that's great, let's take in cases
Speaker 1: like you're thirty seven. Your listen. I love your enthusiasm
Speaker 1: and your passion. But that was the day Josh Adams
Speaker 1: got back and I'm all right, we're gonna move on
Speaker 1: to receivers. Now, this is a very interesting dynamic here.
Speaker 1: We could do a whole show on receivers, I guess,
Speaker 1: but the Jeff receivers are always the most popular position
Speaker 1: in training camp without a doubt. But I think this
Speaker 1: is an interesting dynamic because the Jets have a lot
Speaker 1: of receivers right now on their roster, even though they're
Speaker 1: banged up. I mean, you look at guys like Vincent Smith,
Speaker 1: Shot Perriman, and Denzel Mims as we're recording this have
Speaker 1: yet to return to practice. Denzel Mims we haven't seen
Speaker 1: in practice once. Shot Peerman has been out like a
Speaker 1: week with his niece swilling. Then you think about the
Speaker 1: guys that you brought in and were the guys that
Speaker 1: were taking reps for those guys, Jeff Smith gets hurt.
Speaker 1: Then you look at the guys that have stepped up recently.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Josh Malone, Jhu chess On and Chris Hogan,
Speaker 1: of course, George Campbell. There's a lot of players at
Speaker 1: receiver right now. Lawrence Casi has been banged up. I
Speaker 1: mean he This is a tough tough room because how
Speaker 1: do you balance injury versus guys that you want on
Speaker 1: your team and guys that you might just need on
Speaker 1: your team because of the injured guys. There's also waivers. Yes, again,
Speaker 1: there are deep position groups that teams have. In some teams,
Speaker 1: like we saw it with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year,
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers, so Mike Evans at the top,
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin one of the butter combinations of National Football League,
Speaker 1: and Perryman finally got his run late in the year.
Speaker 1: And he was one of the best receivers in the league. Um,
Speaker 1: I gotta look at it this way. Crowder's your number
Speaker 1: one guy. I'm not saying he's playing the acts. Of course,
Speaker 1: we know that he's gonna be lining up in the
Speaker 1: slot and he's gonna be targeted a ton of times.
Speaker 1: He's had a very impressive camp. Somebody the other day
Speaker 1: asked me, it's like I haven't really heard a lot
Speaker 1: about Crowder, Like, yeah, just Sam throws him the wall
Speaker 1: every other play. He's just solid. So Jamison, you're hoping
Speaker 1: you mentioned Perriman in the knee. They were hoping they
Speaker 1: got him back last weekend. We'll have to see what
Speaker 1: happens on the practice field again. A reminder to everybody,
Speaker 1: we're taping Wednesday morning, we're going out in the practice field.
Speaker 1: He was dealing with some swelling with the need, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here. Hogan is a guy who's coming
Speaker 1: in and has had no difficulty picking up the offense,
Speaker 1: A veteran guy with a chip on his shoulder. You
Speaker 1: already can see that Donald has established some trust in him,
Speaker 1: so I would think that he's gonna be here. Denzel
Speaker 1: MIM's gotta get him on the practice field. Loves potential.
Speaker 1: How good has he been keeping up with the mental reps?
Speaker 1: The Jets like approach. Uh, you feel bad for the kid,
Speaker 1: but you can't rush them back. So of course you
Speaker 1: know they're hoping as we tape that he gets back
Speaker 1: on the practice field here later this week. That probably
Speaker 1: starts with individuals. Now, could Mims be ruled out week
Speaker 1: one and Buffalo, of course, but Adam Gates was not
Speaker 1: rolling that out yesterday said we'll have to see what happens,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what. The last guy to mention
Speaker 1: in the group, I think it was Braxon Burrios before
Speaker 1: we get to all the other guys, because Burrios has
Speaker 1: had an outstanding and I'm not just talking about special
Speaker 1: teams anytime he's been out there, because he's your second slot,
Speaker 1: he's to turn it all. Yeah, he is. He's had
Speaker 1: a very impressive camp, particularly on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean he might have had the catch
Speaker 1: of Camp in the back of the end zone from
Speaker 1: Mike White, the one that you thought he was definitely
Speaker 1: out of bounds, and then Braxon Burrios had some fantastic
Speaker 1: toe drag swag. I think that Braxon Barrios has been
Speaker 1: very impressive. And he's another guy we talked about all
Speaker 1: these dudes at it's their second year in the offense,
Speaker 1: like Donald, like Herndon, even on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball like Quinnin. Somebody like Braxon Burrios that is
Speaker 1: extremely smart. Valedictorian at Miami, Sean Jefferson said the receiver's
Speaker 1: coach said that he leans on Burrios a lot, saying like,
Speaker 1: you know, do you think I missed anything? Like He's
Speaker 1: a very smart dude. And Braxton Barrios with another year
Speaker 1: learning this system, has shown his development on the field.
Speaker 1: Speed of development. A Lawrence Cage was coming on before
Speaker 1: he went down with the knee. Uh, he's been out there,
Speaker 1: not with the helmet just yet. We'll have to see
Speaker 1: how he progresses. George Campbell's a guy can fly out
Speaker 1: of West Virginia. We think about a couple of veterans
Speaker 1: here in the mix. U J. J. Who chess On
Speaker 1: made a big play here at the end of the
Speaker 1: late game situation to man at work when Sam Donald
Speaker 1: threw in. He's made a few plays out here. And
Speaker 1: then Josh Malone you can't forget about him too, and
Speaker 1: what kind of value he brings the special team. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that first group, I think you know who it is,
Speaker 1: the first five, first to first five, and then what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do beyond that? That's the question. The
Speaker 1: other wrinkle in this is Dante Moncrief has had one
Speaker 1: practice with the Jets so far, so we'll see how
Speaker 1: quickly he can learn the offense, if he can make
Speaker 1: a difference. And I'm very interested to see what happens
Speaker 1: Saturday with him in particular, because how do you how
Speaker 1: do you try to fully evaluate somebody like Moncrieff who
Speaker 1: has experienced and he can fly and can move. So
Speaker 1: that's a great point. And so if you go Moncrief there,
Speaker 1: any of the young guys or any of the young
Speaker 1: Vets get any run or there's not any room for
Speaker 1: them at this point. Yeah, we'll see what happens. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting and moving on here. I just I
Speaker 1: want to pick up the pace with all right, tight
Speaker 1: end done, tight ends basis tight ends. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know Hernan Griffin and then you would imagine Brown and
Speaker 1: West go. You'll see between that, Ross, Travis and KAFUSI.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what happens towards the back end
Speaker 1: of the tight end room. But let me just sit deep.
Speaker 1: The West Coast had one of the most impressive camps
Speaker 1: out here. Uh, he's really developed and Brown is a
Speaker 1: key special team's contributor. Um, so let's to see and
Speaker 1: that's one of your deepest position groups. All right, moving
Speaker 1: on to the offensive line. You figured the guys that
Speaker 1: were brought in the off season, for the majority of them,
Speaker 1: Fat McGovern, Beckton, who else? Who else am I missing here?
Speaker 1: Van Roton? Alex Lewis is still Alex Lewis. I mean,
Speaker 1: those guys are here. You're really looking at the back
Speaker 1: end of the offensive line in general. But Chuma Adoga
Speaker 1: can play both tackle spots. Cameron Clark has gotten back
Speaker 1: on the practice field. Josh Andrews is a guy who
Speaker 1: we don't talk about enough, I think, but he's gonna
Speaker 1: give you a lot of valuable depth on the interior.
Speaker 1: And then you also have Jonathan Harrison. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with some of the guys like Jared Hilbert's
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. We'll see. I mean, if Connor McDermott
Speaker 1: ends up on the physically unable to perform list, do
Speaker 1: the Jets just roll with Chumadoga as their swing tackle,
Speaker 1: or maybe they try to have another backup tackle. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. All right, defensive side of the ball here,
Speaker 1: Let's keep things up front. Let's go to the d line.
Speaker 1: This is one of the deepest groups on this team.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room here,
Speaker 1: but it's similar to tight end. You're looking at the
Speaker 1: back end and the final few spots. Yeah, and to
Speaker 1: your point, listen, you got Steve McLendon who's still going strong.
Speaker 1: He's the veteran leader of that unit and he is
Speaker 1: a big time presence inside this facility. Quinn and Williams
Speaker 1: came back to camp and tremendous shape. He has high
Speaker 1: hopes for this Sea eason, and he's got unique athletic ability. Uh,
Speaker 1: full of runs of fatakas. He became one of the
Speaker 1: better run stuffers, not only on this team, but you
Speaker 1: can make the argument maybe one of the better run
Speaker 1: stuffers in the National Football League. And then he got
Speaker 1: jep Dog Nathan Shepperd too strong as hell there on
Speaker 1: the interior. And then um, you know, Henry Anderson, I
Speaker 1: don't know you you consider him more of a D
Speaker 1: d N. But you know, when you're talking about that unit,
Speaker 1: you're you're feeling pretty good where you're at. Defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Henry Anderson is I think has been a little under
Speaker 1: the radars, flown under the radar throughout training camp. I
Speaker 1: think he's been impressive from the practices we've seen. Granted,
Speaker 1: you can't go like a thousand miles per hour because
Speaker 1: he's not gonna go after Sam Donald. You gotta pull
Speaker 1: up and you're going to get your teammates. He's extremely
Speaker 1: long too, and then that can disrupt the quarterback because
Speaker 1: you want to get in quarterback planes right so he
Speaker 1: can get his hands up. He had, he had a
Speaker 1: very good year's first year here in terms of past defenses.
Speaker 1: Seven sacks, code led the Jets. Moving on a linebacker,
Speaker 1: you feel good with where you're at. I think at
Speaker 1: the the inside, Avery Williamson, Neville Hewitt, Blake Cashman, James
Speaker 1: Burgess in that list, Patrick Owasso will see his what
Speaker 1: the deal is with his knee injury. Adam Gates said
Speaker 1: about five weeks right, that was that might be a
Speaker 1: typical Pop candidate. As we sit here and then you're
Speaker 1: looking at the outside guys, and you got guys like
Speaker 1: George Jenkins to al bash him. And the one guy
Speaker 1: that I think you and I both think has had
Speaker 1: a very good camp is Frankie Lulu, who's the special
Speaker 1: team stalwart. Frankie has been very good. You can, potentially,
Speaker 1: if you want to, you can line them up on
Speaker 1: the strong side. If you really go to a typical
Speaker 1: base defense. Uh. Kyle Phillips last year, Uh really jumped
Speaker 1: on everybody's radar and undrafted free agent. I think he
Speaker 1: led this team and tackles for loss. Jabari's aninga just
Speaker 1: been a tough camp for the rookie. Uh, much like
Speaker 1: Dunzel Mims. He hasn't been able to practice because he's
Speaker 1: been dealing with that quad injury. And then again, you
Speaker 1: know John Franklin Myers is also part of this group.
Speaker 1: And then Jordan Willis is a guy who came on
Speaker 1: and got some rotational run last year. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: was impressive. Yeah, it's gonna be former Cincinnati Bengal, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. It all starts with Jenkins on
Speaker 1: the outside. Right. You mentioned Bashuh you like his athleticism.
Speaker 1: Kyle Phillips is, he's kinda He's a guy we often
Speaker 1: don't talk about. But again, he popped last year and
Speaker 1: I think he's been good at camp and aluvu for
Speaker 1: my money, jeez, he's been all over the place cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and safeties now defensive backs overall, similar to wide receiver
Speaker 1: corners has kind of been a banged up group. I mean,
Speaker 1: Pierre's ear is really the main guy. Brian Pool is
Speaker 1: coming back. He took some team reps on Tuesday. Today's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so Tuesday. So I think this is another similar situation
Speaker 1: in the sense of where do you go after your
Speaker 1: group of guys that you figure have a good shot
Speaker 1: to be on this team. I mean, Arthur Millette was
Speaker 1: off this team last year, then he was on the
Speaker 1: team that he was off the team that he was
Speaker 1: on the team, and then he started like six games
Speaker 1: for the Jets and started down the stretch. And there's
Speaker 1: a number of these guys. Where how many guys do
Speaker 1: you keep? And are there any guys like a Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. I feel bad for somebody like
Speaker 1: that because that would be the preseason. He's a prime
Speaker 1: preseason candidate in the sense that I wanted to see
Speaker 1: how he would fare against somebody that's not on the
Speaker 1: Jets roster. He can't see that, So what do you
Speaker 1: do with a guy like that? Or Javeling Gidjury another
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Well, from what I've seen just in
Speaker 1: our time out there is Lamar Jackson's He's interesting. He's
Speaker 1: an intriguing player. Big. Yeah, so you know, again do
Speaker 1: you think about him in terms of practice squad? Um?
Speaker 1: You know? And again what's happening around the NFL at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position you're hoping to zero is ready for
Speaker 1: Week one against the Bills. They a formidable wide receiver
Speaker 1: group with Digs and John Brown and Beasley and the like.
Speaker 1: Bless Austin And to me, he has stood out throughout
Speaker 1: camp that he looks like a guy you should be
Speaker 1: starting on the outside. You got Brian pool back, that's huge.
Speaker 1: You need him. You mention him a lot before. He's
Speaker 1: a guy kind of jack of all trades because you
Speaker 1: can line them up outside, you line him up inside.
Speaker 1: And a great character kid, and he's great on special teams. Yes,
Speaker 1: so there you go, Quincy little Quincy Wilson. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: you traded for him? Uh? Draft weekend? Uh? He has
Speaker 1: made some plays. Um. You know, it's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see where he fits in the mix, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very interesting group in general.
Speaker 1: And Lamar Jackson, I know. I said he's a big guy,
Speaker 1: six to two oh eight, has nice size, not necessarily
Speaker 1: the fastest player though, No but here that's another guy
Speaker 1: you're wondering, what's brand Warriors evaluation of him? Like Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson comes in rookie and things like that. Those guys
Speaker 1: have to that. That's the thing that everybody misses when
Speaker 1: we're talking roster evaluation. I think is, oh, well, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep this guy's the fifth or sixth receiver
Speaker 1: because what they can do offensively, or he's gonna be
Speaker 1: my fifth there's six quarterback because what they can do defensively. No,
Speaker 1: all those guys, yes, that is important, no doubt, but
Speaker 1: all those guys have to be good special teams players.
Speaker 1: What value are they giving you special teams wives Well,
Speaker 1: to go off of that point, just to use an
Speaker 1: example of a guy like the previous year, Jets fans
Speaker 1: love or loved Deta Burnett, but we rarely saw Deonte
Speaker 1: Burnett takes special team snaps. So it becomes a numbers game.
Speaker 1: And when you get to the back half the numbers game,
Speaker 1: you gotta go to special teams and which leads us
Speaker 1: to safety another crowded group. And for past handful of years,
Speaker 1: a lot of years, Rontes Miles was a special team
Speaker 1: stalwart brand boyer named when he said, I'm excited to
Speaker 1: use these guys this year. One of the guys he
Speaker 1: named was Matthias Farley, who has been last year I
Speaker 1: was on the team, took some special team snaps. Now
Speaker 1: it seems like he might have an increased role, particularly
Speaker 1: on teams. I really like the top three. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see how Greg Williams implements his packages, how
Speaker 1: many three safety looks, what will we see. Ashton Davis
Speaker 1: has had two interceptions of Sam Donald Camp, albeit one
Speaker 1: was in seven onths seven. I get it, um he
Speaker 1: probably would have took that one to the house. Frank
Speaker 1: or might have an argument against that one. But he
Speaker 1: had another one. And he's also when he's getting reps.
Speaker 1: He is a physical presence. He is always coming up
Speaker 1: around the ball. No matter where he's lining up, you
Speaker 1: always see him close to the ball and he loves
Speaker 1: the physical contact. And I saw the interaction the other
Speaker 1: day in the sideline. That I really enjoyed is that
Speaker 1: he's sitting next to Brian Pool and he can tell,
Speaker 1: he says, picking Pool's brain about the defense and maybe
Speaker 1: some intricacies of the offense and stuff like that. Ashton
Speaker 1: Davis is a big time keeper. We knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna be on this team, but I'm sure Greg Williams
Speaker 1: has thrown a lot at him as far as information
Speaker 1: to see what he can absorb, and I think the
Speaker 1: results have been very positive thus far. Marcus, may you
Speaker 1: make the argument he's had the best camp out of
Speaker 1: any New York Jet. Unfortunately, he has been on the
Speaker 1: practice field the last two days. Maybe he's out there today. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're just taking precautions with him because they don't want
Speaker 1: to mess up anything in terms of his calf. And
Speaker 1: Bradley McDougald, he's a guy fits in perfectly great locker
Speaker 1: room dude. Uh, nice presence out there on the football
Speaker 1: field and he's found the rock throughout his career ten interceptions.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned far Earley before Special teams contributions. Bennett
Speaker 1: Jackson's also there in the mix, so you know, to me,
Speaker 1: those are the two guys he kind of highlighting. Let's
Speaker 1: see how the Jets of value wait them in the
Speaker 1: final process here specialist real quick, you know Thomas hennessee
Speaker 1: Brandon Man Sam Fickens the only kicker on this roster.
Speaker 1: The Jets did make a waiver claim last season at
Speaker 1: this time different situation though. We'll see what happens. But
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a very crowded, exciting weekend. This roster
Speaker 1: is going to look totally different from now to Saturday,
Speaker 1: and could also look very different from Saturday to Sunday.
Speaker 1: Definitely gonna look different from Saturday to Sunday. Now, it's
Speaker 1: just the question is what are the numbers? How many
Speaker 1: waiver claims are gonna have? Is it gonna be two,
Speaker 1: is gonna be three? Could it be five? I think
Speaker 1: last year was five. Yeah, Well, we'll see what happens, though.
Speaker 1: I think we're all gonna get excited Saturday and be like,
Speaker 1: oh God, this guy made the team or this guy
Speaker 1: got get released or whate and things like that. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it just comes down to a numbers game where
Speaker 1: the Jets have a lot of depth at certain positions. Well,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be good football players being released and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be out there on the street, but not for
Speaker 1: long because they're gonna find their homes and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: other teams have great depth at certain positions where the
Speaker 1: Jets are a little bit thinner at and you know
Speaker 1: that's where Joe Douglas and his team are gonna go
Speaker 1: do their business and we'll get some guys. They'll get
Speaker 1: some guys in here on Sunday, and then we'll see
Speaker 1: about this expanded practice squad and the blocks that Greens
Speaker 1: was talking about, the four blocks. Yeah, Joe, Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: has exhausted or said that he will exhaust every avenue
Speaker 1: to improve this roster every year he's here, and of
Speaker 1: course waiver claims is a big part of that. That's
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