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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here in

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Speaker 1: the bed MGM studio, September two o four, A M. E.

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Speaker 1: A and I are basically gonna look ahead two roster

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Speaker 1: cuts this upcoming weekend. But I said it's Wednesday, September two,

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Speaker 1: nine o four, because if something happens between now and

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Speaker 1: when this gets posted, it's not our faults. We know

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Speaker 1: the rosters, we have them in front of us posted

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Speaker 1: before Saturday. I'm just saying, if there's a move that

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Speaker 1: happens at noon on Wednesday, So we're talking roster today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much, position by position. Listen, you just meant in

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Speaker 1: September two September, one gym's opened in New Jersey. One

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Speaker 1: of our security guards here that one Jets drive was

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Speaker 1: telling me that he went to the gym yesterday. There's

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Speaker 1: only three people in there. What do you think, are

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Speaker 1: you personally going to go to a gym? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about it. I think

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Speaker 1: I think it also depends on the gym, like I do,

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Speaker 1: miss wait, but I have two dumbbells at home, so

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Speaker 1: I don't I think that that might satisfy me enough,

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Speaker 1: But you don't you get no machines at home, or

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Speaker 1: I don't have any machines at home in my apartment,

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Speaker 1: So I think I might. I think I think I

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Speaker 1: want to let things. I want to see how other

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Speaker 1: You have to run outside because there's no way you

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Speaker 1: on and run on that treadmill. No way, no no.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, aren't the rules you have to wear

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Speaker 1: the mask the entire time in the gym? Right? I

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Speaker 1: just feel like in a non COVID world, pre COVID

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Speaker 1: people in the gym are animals and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: I don't like yeah, and they're just like people are dirty,

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Speaker 1: people are grindy. And now I'm gonna have to trust

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Speaker 1: them to make sure that they're taking the precautions not

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Speaker 1: only in the gym but in their daily life. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how, don't it's it's a difference. There's only

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Speaker 1: different workouts though, yeah, I know which. I do love

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Speaker 1: the body weight workouts, but I had a set of

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Speaker 1: need some more weight fortunately for us here we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a break knock on glass. That

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Speaker 1: little Jim downstairs we have access to. Yeah, the dumballs

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Speaker 1: go up to fifty palms. So I was in there

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Speaker 1: last night, so and I wanted to show everybody here.

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Speaker 1: We got the tracker. We got the Tier three tracker

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Speaker 1: here in Covidville. Show it off. Yeah, this is how.

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Speaker 1: This is how we go down there. I'm joking. I'm

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Speaker 1: joking about that because we're blessed to be inside. This

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Speaker 1: is breaking was here in the pod. Not the players

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Speaker 1: are coaches Gym to call it affectionately, the little kids Jym. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the little kids Jim. We can go in there. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good to know. All right. So we're moving on

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Speaker 1: here on the Official Jets Podcast. Like we said, roster

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Speaker 1: cutdowns coming up this weekend, just to give a quick

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Speaker 1: timeline of how everything's gonna shape out. September five, four pm,

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Speaker 1: which is Saturday, I believe, is when the roster needs

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Speaker 1: Then after that the next day kind of it's twofold.

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Speaker 1: You have your waiver claim period that ends at noon

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Speaker 1: then later that day the practice squad. You can start

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Speaker 1: to form your practice squad an hour after the waiver

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Speaker 1: claim period ends at one. But there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different practice squad rules. This year, it's typically ten players.

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Speaker 1: Now it's twelve players. I don't want for twelve to

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Speaker 1: sixteen is the correct Well, according to Sporting News, the

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Speaker 1: it was supposed to be twelve in the new cb

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Speaker 1: A and then COVID bumped it up to six teams

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Speaker 1: for two thousand twenty, and this is kind of big news.

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Speaker 1: You can have six veterans on the practice squad with

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Speaker 1: then the other thing that NFL teams are deon with

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Speaker 1: for two thousand twenty. Each game day, teams have the

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Speaker 1: corresponding move. So let's just use our Jeff Smith example.

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Speaker 1: Let's say well, this was last season, he's on the

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the quarterbacks. You know, Sam Donald is

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Jets only carried two quarterbacks with Donald

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be your primary backup whenever he's healthy. We

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Speaker 1: that because that would be the preseason. He's a prime

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Speaker 1: do with a guy like that? Or Javeling Gidjury another

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Speaker 1: our time out there is Lamar Jackson's He's interesting. He's

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Speaker 1: you think about him in terms of practice squad? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know? And again what's happening around the NFL at

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Speaker 1: the cornerback position you're hoping to zero is ready for

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Speaker 1: Week one against the Bills. They a formidable wide receiver

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Speaker 1: group with Digs and John Brown and Beasley and the like.

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Speaker 1: Bless Austin And to me, he has stood out throughout

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Speaker 1: camp that he looks like a guy you should be

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Speaker 1: starting on the outside. You got Brian pool back, that's huge.

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Speaker 1: You need him. You mention him a lot before. He's

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Speaker 1: a guy kind of jack of all trades because you

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Speaker 1: can line them up outside, you line him up inside.

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Speaker 1: And a great character kid, and he's great on special teams. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so there you go, Quincy little Quincy Wilson. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: you traded for him? Uh? Draft weekend? Uh? He has

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Speaker 1: made some plays. Um. You know, it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see where he fits in the mix, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very interesting group in general.

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Speaker 1: And Lamar Jackson, I know. I said he's a big guy,

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Speaker 1: six to two oh eight, has nice size, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: the fastest player though, No but here that's another guy

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Speaker 1: you're wondering, what's brand Warriors evaluation of him? Like Lamar

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Speaker 1: have to that. That's the thing that everybody misses when

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Speaker 1: just gonna keep this guy's the fifth or sixth receiver

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Speaker 1: because what they can do offensively, or he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: my fifth there's six quarterback because what they can do defensively. No,

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Speaker 1: all those guys, yes, that is important, no doubt, but

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Speaker 1: all those guys have to be good special teams players.

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Speaker 1: What value are they giving you special teams wives Well,

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Speaker 1: to go off of that point, just to use an

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Speaker 1: example of a guy like the previous year, Jets fans

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Speaker 1: love or loved Deta Burnett, but we rarely saw Deonte

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Speaker 1: Burnett takes special team snaps. So it becomes a numbers game.

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Speaker 1: And when you get to the back half the numbers game,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go to special teams and which leads us

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Speaker 1: to safety another crowded group. And for past handful of years,

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Speaker 1: a lot of years, Rontes Miles was a special team

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Speaker 1: stalwart brand boyer named when he said, I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: use these guys this year. One of the guys he

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Speaker 1: named was Matthias Farley, who has been last year I

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Speaker 1: was on the team, took some special team snaps. Now

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Speaker 1: it seems like he might have an increased role, particularly

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Speaker 1: on teams. I really like the top three. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see how Greg Williams implements his packages, how

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Speaker 1: many three safety looks, what will we see. Ashton Davis

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Speaker 1: has had two interceptions of Sam Donald Camp, albeit one

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Speaker 1: was in seven onths seven. I get it, um he

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Speaker 1: probably would have took that one to the house. Frank

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Speaker 1: or might have an argument against that one. But he

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Speaker 1: had another one. And he's also when he's getting reps.

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Speaker 1: He is a physical presence. He is always coming up

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Speaker 1: around the ball. No matter where he's lining up, you

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Speaker 1: always see him close to the ball and he loves

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Speaker 1: the physical contact. And I saw the interaction the other

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Speaker 1: day in the sideline. That I really enjoyed is that

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Speaker 1: he's sitting next to Brian Pool and he can tell,

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Speaker 1: he says, picking Pool's brain about the defense and maybe

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Speaker 1: some intricacies of the offense and stuff like that. Ashton

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Speaker 1: Davis is a big time keeper. We knew he was

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Speaker 1: gonna be on this team, but I'm sure Greg Williams

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Speaker 1: has thrown a lot at him as far as information

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Speaker 1: to see what he can absorb, and I think the

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Speaker 1: results have been very positive thus far. Marcus, may you

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Speaker 1: make the argument he's had the best camp out of

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Speaker 1: any New York Jet. Unfortunately, he has been on the

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Speaker 1: practice field the last two days. Maybe he's out there today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're just taking precautions with him because they don't want

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Speaker 1: to mess up anything in terms of his calf. And

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Speaker 1: Bradley McDougald, he's a guy fits in perfectly great locker

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Speaker 1: room dude. Uh, nice presence out there on the football

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Speaker 1: field and he's found the rock throughout his career ten interceptions.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned far Earley before Special teams contributions. Bennett

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Speaker 1: Jackson's also there in the mix, so you know, to me,

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Speaker 1: those are the two guys he kind of highlighting. Let's

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Speaker 1: see how the Jets of value wait them in the

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Speaker 1: final process here specialist real quick, you know Thomas hennessee

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Speaker 1: Brandon Man Sam Fickens the only kicker on this roster.

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Speaker 1: The Jets did make a waiver claim last season at

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Speaker 1: this time different situation though. We'll see what happens. But

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a very crowded, exciting weekend. This roster

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Speaker 1: is going to look totally different from now to Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and could also look very different from Saturday to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Definitely gonna look different from Saturday to Sunday. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: just the question is what are the numbers? How many

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Speaker 1: waiver claims are gonna have? Is it gonna be two,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be three? Could it be five? I think

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Speaker 1: last year was five. Yeah, Well, we'll see what happens, though.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all gonna get excited Saturday and be like,

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Speaker 1: oh God, this guy made the team or this guy

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Speaker 1: got get released or whate and things like that. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes it just comes down to a numbers game where

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Speaker 1: the Jets have a lot of depth at certain positions. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be good football players being released and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be out there on the street, but not for

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Speaker 1: long because they're gonna find their homes and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: other teams have great depth at certain positions where the

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Speaker 1: Jets are a little bit thinner at and you know

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Speaker 1: that's where Joe Douglas and his team are gonna go

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Speaker 1: do their business and we'll get some guys. They'll get

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Speaker 1: some guys in here on Sunday, and then we'll see

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Speaker 1: about this expanded practice squad and the blocks that Greens

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Speaker 1: was talking about, the four blocks. Yeah, Joe, Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: has exhausted or said that he will exhaust every avenue

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Speaker 1: to improve this roster every year he's here, and of

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Speaker 1: course waiver claims is a big part of that. That's

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