WEBVTT - Big Tech’s Big Earnings Week

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. Bloomberg Tech is a

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<v Speaker 1>live from coast to coast with Caroline Hide.

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<v Speaker 2>In New York and Eva Low in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Bloomberg Tech. Coming up, Apple and Amazon end

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<v Speaker 3>this week. In tech earnings, we'll discuss Apple's global growth come.

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<v Speaker 4>Back, plus Reddit surges on a record profit we discussed

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<v Speaker 4>with the company's COO Gen Wong, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Be joined by Roadblock CEO Dave Bazooski to break down

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<v Speaker 3>the company's earnings and it's advertising pushed later this hour.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's get to the macro perspective first, ed because

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty ugly out there. In fact, we're having the

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<v Speaker 4>worst day and announst that one hundred since April, the

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<v Speaker 4>worst week since May. And that's as we get that

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<v Speaker 4>so called resilient jobs market with some cracks showing and

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<v Speaker 4>some revisions for previous months. When it comes to the

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<v Speaker 4>labor force, that bagstown stocks sends bonds higher. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also looking well the implications of tariffs when we are

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen point two percent general average now for tariffs on

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<v Speaker 4>goods coming into the United States. There's karity there, but

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<v Speaker 4>is there long term negotiation still to come. What does

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<v Speaker 4>it mean for tech stocks? More broadly, let's get to

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<v Speaker 4>Klee lines, just the breakdown Klee of what we learned

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<v Speaker 4>on where countries are standing right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Caroline, there's many different layers to this. The global

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<v Speaker 5>baseline minimum teriff rate will stay at ten percent, despite

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<v Speaker 5>some previous suggestions from the President that it could go higher.

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<v Speaker 5>But indeed the teriff rates will go higher for countries

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<v Speaker 5>that have larger trade surpluses with the United States, from

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen percent to well beyond that for some countries who

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<v Speaker 5>were able to secure deals with the United States an advancer,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, had already received letters from the President. That

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<v Speaker 5>includes the likes of Canada, for example, which will have

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<v Speaker 5>a thirty five percent tariff on it's goods, though there

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<v Speaker 5>is a carve out for those that are compliant with

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<v Speaker 5>the USMCA Trade Agreement, or a country like Switzerland, which

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<v Speaker 5>will see a thirty nine percent rate in aggregate. According

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<v Speaker 5>to our estimates here at Bloomberg e if these tariffs

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<v Speaker 5>go into effect and stick, it will take the average

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<v Speaker 5>tariff rate for the United States up to fifteen point

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<v Speaker 5>two percent from the current thirteen point three percent, which

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<v Speaker 5>brings us back to levels last scene in the World

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<v Speaker 5>War two era, and it's well above the little more

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<v Speaker 5>than two percent rate on average that we saw before

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump took office. That said, it is still an if.

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<v Speaker 5>According to the orders that the President signed last night,

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<v Speaker 5>these duties will not begin to be collected until August seventh,

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<v Speaker 5>so about a week to go here.

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<v Speaker 2>That does leave some.

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<v Speaker 5>Wiggle room for countries to either continue negotiations, try to

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<v Speaker 5>reach deal, or maybe get an extension, like we saw

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<v Speaker 5>with Mexico yesterday, which was able to secure a ninety

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<v Speaker 5>day extension of their current agreement. Also, we need to

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<v Speaker 5>consider that China is still a question mark that August

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<v Speaker 5>twelfth deadline is looming. The President has not signed off

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<v Speaker 5>yet on an extension for the trade detente between those

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<v Speaker 5>two countries, and he also had some measures that do

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<v Speaker 5>seem aim specifically at China in what he signed last night,

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<v Speaker 5>with a forty percent tariff that is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>applied to so called transshipped goods, though it's not exactly

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<v Speaker 5>clear how those rulings will be made or how that.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be enforced.

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<v Speaker 5>Also unclear is what sectoral terraces could still come into

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<v Speaker 5>the picture, as they're still ongoing Section two thirty two

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<v Speaker 5>investigations into things like pharmaceuticals and semiconductors, and we're awaiting

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<v Speaker 5>those outcomes as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Tailey lines with a breakdown. Thank you so much. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get to your micro picture because there's trade, but ed,

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at earnings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and earnings is a big story in the world

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<v Speaker 3>of technology this morning. Amazon is an AI story, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a cloud story. Look at the drop on the

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<v Speaker 3>stock significant. The concern is the outlook for operating income.

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<v Speaker 3>So much revenue comes from Amazon dot Com, but the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of operating income from AWUS, and the outlook seen

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<v Speaker 3>as weak or conservative. But AWS in the period Gone

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<v Speaker 3>grew seventeen percent in a quarter where Microsoft Azure grew

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine percent and a quarter where Google Cloud Platform

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<v Speaker 3>gained some territory.

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<v Speaker 6>There's pressure there.

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<v Speaker 3>Apple beat across every metric in the June quarter GONE

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<v Speaker 3>and told us in the September quarter mid to high

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<v Speaker 3>single digit percentage growth.

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<v Speaker 6>But everyone this.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning carrow asking about pull in or pull forward, And

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<v Speaker 3>what Apple said was in April in the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>one percentage point of growth was people front running tariffs,

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<v Speaker 3>but they grew ten percentage points do we believe them.

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<v Speaker 3>The market's down one point six percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get more analysis with an investor. Tony One's with

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<v Speaker 4>us is t row Price Science and Technology Fund portfolio

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<v Speaker 4>manager exposure to Apple. What do you think in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of Apple's seeming resilience and growth in China.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think that their you know, product is still

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<v Speaker 7>in demand, and they did some pricing adjustments to make

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<v Speaker 7>it more attractive to fitting the subsidies, and at the

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<v Speaker 7>end of the day, I think it's still a really

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<v Speaker 7>high quality of product and brand. I think that what

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<v Speaker 7>matters going forward is their product innovation around AI and

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<v Speaker 7>improving series.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that you had a period where Huawei came

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<v Speaker 7>back and took share back, and it was a competitive

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<v Speaker 7>environment made Apple kind of adjust a little bit to

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<v Speaker 7>bring more value.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think it's encouraging that things are getting better

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<v Speaker 8>in China.

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<v Speaker 3>They're growing again, Tony, I want you to help me

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<v Speaker 3>with the map here a little bit. So April largely

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<v Speaker 3>one percentage point of growth in the Gune quarter was

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<v Speaker 3>pull in pull forward from tariffs, and then Apple told

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<v Speaker 3>us that they would grow mid to high single digits

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<v Speaker 3>in the September quarter. That would indicate that there isn't

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of tariff front running here, that Apple's just

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<v Speaker 3>growing because it's growing. Do you buy that?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, I think that, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 8>hard to tell, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that there was a period when you were

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<v Speaker 7>rushing to Apple stores to buy some iPhones before the terrorists,

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<v Speaker 7>but I feel like that quickly subsided and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>that was resolved relatively in short order. And so I

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<v Speaker 7>think that what matters here is the forward look. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>as investors, you're probably looking more towards what they do

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<v Speaker 7>with the next iPhone cycle. Fold the ball in addition,

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<v Speaker 7>like services was really strong, and so there was a

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<v Speaker 7>fear that what happens with uh, you know, Google search as.

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<v Speaker 8>Well as kind of the the app store ruling where

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<v Speaker 8>people are circumventing the app store.

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<v Speaker 7>It seems like that's like actually been okay, and so

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<v Speaker 7>going forward, I think that it's less about like was

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<v Speaker 7>there a little pull in or by more of the

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<v Speaker 7>iPhone cycle coming coming up that people aren't focused on.

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<v Speaker 4>So Tony, when does the real pivot point come? When

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<v Speaker 4>is it that you have confidence to add exposure and

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<v Speaker 4>feel that Tim Cook and the team are on top

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<v Speaker 4>of generative AI, of the opportunity at hand of innovation.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think Tim Cook and the team they're really

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<v Speaker 7>talented and their world's class manufacturers and you know, their

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<v Speaker 7>product leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>You'll be built that over decades.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I don't think you can count about in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of where the stock at has been. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>the market break considerably in a market that's been super

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<v Speaker 7>beta fuel and risk taking. And so you know, if

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<v Speaker 7>the market turned like Apple, I think is a safe table.

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<v Speaker 7>And then if you look at kind of the momentum

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<v Speaker 7>they're building like things, things are probably going to get

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<v Speaker 7>better over the next twelve months. And I do think that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, they can do a lot within AI. They're

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<v Speaker 7>probably you know, not rushing to commit to anyone one partner.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, they own the ecosystem and so to me, like,

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<v Speaker 7>as long as the iPhone is still the main, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>channel for AI, I think that's that's really important.

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<v Speaker 3>Talent wasn't mentioned on the call, but the final question

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<v Speaker 3>was about M and A in the context of AI

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<v Speaker 3>and what Tim Cook said, And I know because I

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<v Speaker 3>put it in the top live blog and then I

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<v Speaker 3>screenshotted it. We are very open to m and a

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Cook two fifty seven pm Pacific time, Thursday, July first.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a starter gun or signal particularly to investment

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<v Speaker 3>bankers or do you expect Apple to stay sort of

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<v Speaker 3>muted in disciplined on that front, I think.

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<v Speaker 7>The Apple is very muted, and I always say muted,

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<v Speaker 7>but they're very disciplined, and I think that they have

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<v Speaker 7>like a very very strong focused in what matters in

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<v Speaker 7>their direction. I mean, for a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 7>you can put all their products on one table and

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<v Speaker 7>to be really great at what they do. And so

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think they're going to be muted. I think

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<v Speaker 7>they're going to be disciplined and focused, and they have

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<v Speaker 7>made acquisitions that can really I think, plug into the

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<v Speaker 7>ecosystem enhance their talent.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think they're going to go to a really.

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<v Speaker 7>Big, splashy acquisition, but if you take a step back,

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<v Speaker 7>they're generating a ton of capital and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of potential for improvement.

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<v Speaker 3>And via em and a Telly one on the tray price.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to have you back on Bloomberg Tech. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much. Let's stick with earnings and turn in part

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<v Speaker 3>to Amazon.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm actually going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep going with Apple as well with Laura Martin, who

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<v Speaker 3>covers the broad gamut of tech. But and listened you

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<v Speaker 3>were listening there to Tony Wright. I just wondered if

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<v Speaker 3>you had any response difference of opinion on any of

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<v Speaker 3>the ground that we covered.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I would be much more negative.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the Apple stock cannot work without an Apple

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<v Speaker 10>iPhone replacement cycle. And Tim Cook said on the call

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<v Speaker 10>that they have twenty AI jenerative AI capabilities involved in

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<v Speaker 10>its current iPhone. But next year we're going to get

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<v Speaker 10>really the Apple intelligence step up.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's two years after.

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<v Speaker 10>I originally promised it, which means we're not going to

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<v Speaker 10>get an iPhone replacement cycle this year in September. It

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<v Speaker 10>would be next year at the earliest, which means I

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<v Speaker 10>don't think the stock can work. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 10>can outperform. Meanwhile, when you listen to Alphabet, they've got

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<v Speaker 10>Google Gemini, and they are incorporating jenerative AI features in

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<v Speaker 10>every one of their products, including Android, which is the

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<v Speaker 10>primary competitor here. So you and I aren't incentive to

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<v Speaker 10>go out and replace our iPhones, which means our iPhones

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<v Speaker 10>are getting another year older, another a year older, and

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<v Speaker 10>at some point, if the one of the Android version

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<v Speaker 10>runs ahead with some cool feature that all of us

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<v Speaker 10>want to try or can't live without, we are more

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<v Speaker 10>likely to shake loose from that iOS ecosystem because they

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<v Speaker 10>aren't showing us anything that keeps us there as these

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<v Speaker 10>iPhones age and we want to replace our iPhones with

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<v Speaker 10>something new.

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<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, don't She's doing a lot for Sansung foldable phones

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<v Speaker 4>and plenty of others on the market right now. I

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<v Speaker 4>just pivot therefore to Amazon, which does have hardware. But look,

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<v Speaker 4>we're looking at the growth story of cloud right now.

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<v Speaker 4>In AWS, seventy percent was exactly where Amnis wanted it

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<v Speaker 4>to be, but did just pale into comparison compared to

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<v Speaker 4>where Azure was and where Google is in terms of cloud.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so what they said was that there was real

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<v Speaker 10>margin pressure here, right. Margins went to thirty two percent,

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<v Speaker 10>down from thirty nine percent last quarter, and like Google's

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<v Speaker 10>cloud margins were through the roof, so were Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 9>So when you have they're all capacity constraints.

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<v Speaker 10>So we would have forgiven Amazon the seventeen percent growth

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<v Speaker 10>rate and revenue if their margins had stayed at that

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<v Speaker 10>very high sort of forty percent level, because they're out

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<v Speaker 10>of capacity, so they should be like charging a lot

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<v Speaker 10>for anybody that uses demand in their cloud.

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<v Speaker 6>But they didn't.

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<v Speaker 10>They were under margin pressure, so I think people didn't

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<v Speaker 10>like that. I think that My opinion is they're losing

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<v Speaker 10>business because their competitors are price competing and taking away clients.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, Apple's still the biggest. There's sixty five percent

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<v Speaker 10>bigger in cloud than the next closest guy they in

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<v Speaker 10>the business. And he made the point that eighty five

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<v Speaker 10>percent of companies are still on physical servers on premise

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<v Speaker 10>and all of those companies need to move to the cloud.

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<v Speaker 10>And Amazon it's the biggest. So I think this is

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<v Speaker 10>a short term problem. But boy is the market mad.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, investors are mad about these numbers coming out

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<v Speaker 10>of Amazon, but.

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<v Speaker 4>They're quite often mad at Amazon because Amazon is willing

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<v Speaker 4>to say sorry, profit tomorrow, profit the next quarter, for now,

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<v Speaker 4>I invest in my business. Did he sound bullish enough

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<v Speaker 4>on the general to ay opach opportunity, because goodness, they're

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<v Speaker 4>intertwining it left, right and center as well.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, maybe I think, look, I think this is

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<v Speaker 10>the right guy in the seat right.

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<v Speaker 9>This guy is the one who started founded cloud.

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<v Speaker 10>And did extent Cloud is either under siege or doing

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<v Speaker 10>something wrong, or Wall Street's just mad.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the guy to fix it like this isn't

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<v Speaker 9>a CEO from a different business, this is his core business.

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<v Speaker 10>I think Wall Street's a little mad that they're spending

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<v Speaker 10>money on Kuyper, which is not making revenue. Alexa plus

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<v Speaker 10>ten years, we still don't have a dollar of revenue,

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<v Speaker 10>but a ton of expenses, and they're doing same day

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<v Speaker 10>delivery in urban centers, all of which feels.

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<v Speaker 9>Like a lot of capital to spend where you're a price.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you, Andy Jesse said, quote very early

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<v Speaker 3>days in artificial intelligence across all businesses, very quickly. Do

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<v Speaker 3>we have any better understanding of Amazon's AI story than

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<v Speaker 3>we do Apples, which gets, of course scrutinized a lot.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, much better. They're incorporate.

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<v Speaker 10>They have a very clear AI strategy w is to

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<v Speaker 10>host everybody else's AI cloud on theirs. Remember Google's proprietary,

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<v Speaker 10>Microsoft proprietary. Amazon's strategy is to host all large language models.

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<v Speaker 9>It just wants the cloud fees.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Martin Kimming it shortened sweeten to the point we

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<v Speaker 4>so appreciate stay well, have the good rest of the weekend. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>coming up we stick with tech earnings one that actually

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Covers has read it. The COO Jen Wong was

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<v Speaker 4>fair to discuss explosive sales.

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<v Speaker 2>Both as a bluebo.

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<v Speaker 3>Tech shares have Reddit absolutely surging today, up more than

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent, biggest jump since the first week of April.

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<v Speaker 3>The company reported its most profitable quarter today and projected

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<v Speaker 3>sales for the third quarter that were above and this estimates.

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<v Speaker 6>Reddit COO Gen Wong joins.

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<v Speaker 3>Us now for more and it's like one of those

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<v Speaker 3>quarters where should we just start with the basics. Advertising

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<v Speaker 3>was really strong in the cord of gone. Why was

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<v Speaker 3>it so strong? Which geographies were good? What are you

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<v Speaker 3>doing that makes Reddit so attractive relative to other platforms?

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<v Speaker 11>And thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 12>It was a really strong quarter across the board for Reddit,

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<v Speaker 12>and in terms of revenue, we saw broad based strength

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<v Speaker 12>across all the verticals. We saw geographic strength in the

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<v Speaker 12>US and in the rest of world, growing over seventy

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<v Speaker 12>percent in both geographies, we.

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<v Speaker 11>Saw users grow twenty one percent.

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<v Speaker 12>Obviously, advertising revenue group by eighty four percent year year,

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<v Speaker 12>which is truly differentiated. We grew active advertising by fifty

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<v Speaker 12>percent year every year and you can see across the

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<v Speaker 12>funnel both our lower funnel convergent objective plus brand, we're

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<v Speaker 12>both big contributors to the results in Q two.

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<v Speaker 11>So again, broad based strength in.

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<v Speaker 2>The it's surprised and investors a surprised analysts.

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<v Speaker 4>Did any of it surprise you, Jen, any verticals that

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<v Speaker 4>surprised you, any geographies that surprised you.

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<v Speaker 11>I think this is.

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<v Speaker 12>A continuation and an output of our investments.

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<v Speaker 11>We feel really good about our strategy and our roadmap.

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<v Speaker 12>We've been investing in our capabilities to make every impression

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<v Speaker 12>more valuable for marketers over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 12>working on that lower funnel objective, and I think now

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<v Speaker 12>we're seeing the benefits of all the value we're.

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<v Speaker 11>Delivering to our customers.

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<v Speaker 12>The team's been executing really well. We've been making investments

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<v Speaker 12>and expanding our sales team across verticals, across geographies that's

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<v Speaker 12>coming in and supporting the broad based strength. So we

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<v Speaker 12>feel really good about the investments we've made. I think

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<v Speaker 12>our work is working.

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<v Speaker 3>I just typed who is Jen Wong into Reddit answers,

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<v Speaker 3>and it says Genwong is a prominent figure in the

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<v Speaker 3>world of tech and business and COO of Reddit, but

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<v Speaker 3>I find it an interesting tool. Rights supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>human led answers, but might we see ads place there?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people talk about this a lot. How we

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<v Speaker 3>monetize on that, It's.

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<v Speaker 12>A great question, I think Before we get to monetization,

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<v Speaker 12>which I think is a huge opportunity for for Reddit,

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<v Speaker 12>in that space and the area of search, I think

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<v Speaker 12>we have an opportunity to build a very distinctive destination

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<v Speaker 12>search experience. Reddit is where people come for real perspectives

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<v Speaker 12>from real people, not looking for just the summary, but

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<v Speaker 12>looking for what the context around. You know, why did

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<v Speaker 12>you think that this was the best running shoe? Because

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<v Speaker 12>you live in heavy trails a rocky area. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>you're a long distance run or a short distance run.

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<v Speaker 11>Like all those details of.

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<v Speaker 12>Real human experience are brought to life in Reddit answers

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<v Speaker 12>and Reddit Search.

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<v Speaker 11>What we're doing is bringing together this capability.

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<v Speaker 12>In Reddit Answers, which is an LM on top of

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<v Speaker 12>the incredible conversation on Reddit, and integrating that with core

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<v Speaker 12>Reddit search so that it becomes a more fulfomed experience.

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<v Speaker 12>And then as we continue to grow the use of

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<v Speaker 12>that destination search.

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<v Speaker 11>I think monetization follows.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, it's a lot of those queries are incredibly

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<v Speaker 12>just naturally commercial nature, or it's people trying to make

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<v Speaker 12>decisions and allocate resources and buy things, you know, to

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<v Speaker 12>that fit their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean monetization has been something you've done well

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<v Speaker 4>with other deals for licensing your own data to generative

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<v Speaker 4>AI large language models. But Jen, there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of beef going on, perhaps with one with Anthropic. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you give us any update as to what's happening with

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<v Speaker 4>your relationships and further content licensing deals.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean, I won't comment on litigation, but I

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<v Speaker 12>will talk about data licensing. I mean, you know, we

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<v Speaker 12>these were our first commercial relationships. We're a year a

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<v Speaker 12>year and a half in. I think we've learned a

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<v Speaker 12>lot and we're still learning. I think we're open to conversation.

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<v Speaker 12>I think what we're learning is that we and frankly

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<v Speaker 12>everyone can see reddits contribution to these lms, how often

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<v Speaker 12>Reddit is cited, how important Reddit is for people to

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<v Speaker 12>get the perspective that they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 11>And when we see that, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Know, I think it reveals that the fact that Reddit,

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<v Speaker 12>I think has never felt more essential to the Internet

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<v Speaker 12>and to helping people.

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<v Speaker 11>I think what we get.

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<v Speaker 12>Excited about is when we look at this is the

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<v Speaker 12>opportunity for ourselves, the opportunity for us to build products

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<v Speaker 12>around the decades of conversation on Reddit, Reddit answers and

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<v Speaker 12>search is one area obviously growing those communities.

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<v Speaker 11>In our core product. So we get really excited about that.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, I think overall the value of Reddit

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<v Speaker 12>and conversation in this world of AI is going up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of your job is flying around

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<v Speaker 3>the world. International markets just very quickly, how start going

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<v Speaker 3>getting dollars from abroad and very quickly also languages as well.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean international is incredibly important to us. It's

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<v Speaker 12>about twenty percent of our revenue, and international revenue from

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<v Speaker 12>advertising grew over seventy percent in the quarter, so it's

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<v Speaker 12>been a growth driver for us. We're particularly active in

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<v Speaker 12>Europe and Amea. We're seeing really nice growth in our

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<v Speaker 12>target countries where we're applying AI for machine translation to

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<v Speaker 12>have global conversations in different languages so that people that

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<v Speaker 12>don't have language friction. We're also growing local communities, which

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<v Speaker 12>we're excited about doing some partnerships and sports and entertainment

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<v Speaker 12>that are really simulating the growth of local communities like

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<v Speaker 12>telenovelas in Brazil and football in Germany. And that user

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<v Speaker 12>growth that we're supporting then obviously creates a monetization opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>Jen Wog, I've read it. It's wonderful to have time

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<v Speaker 4>with you. Thank you very much. Indeed, now coming up

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<v Speaker 4>Pigma shares, Actually are they managing to rise even on

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<v Speaker 4>day two after that monumental launch. We'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>IPOs big winners and what's next.

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<v Speaker 2>This is blue Bag tech.

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<v Speaker 13>Shares.

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<v Speaker 4>A Figma sold a whopping two hundred and fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 4>on their first day of training. That's the largest first

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<v Speaker 4>day pot for a US trading company, raising more than

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<v Speaker 4>a billion in at least three decades. That's according to

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<v Speaker 4>Bloomberg Data. So is this positive, this strength or is

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<v Speaker 4>that money left on the table for the design software maker.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get to Katie Ruth for her analysis. We're actually

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<v Speaker 4>still clinging onto some gains in a downmarket to Dave,

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<v Speaker 4>and Katie feels the demand is so insatiable her three.

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<v Speaker 14>Clearly the window is open for tech listings, or especially

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<v Speaker 14>open for Pigma. Yeah, you ask a good question about

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<v Speaker 14>the their money left on the table of these favorite

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<v Speaker 14>debate obviously the cell side, which is primarily the company,

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<v Speaker 14>but also the top shareholders.

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<v Speaker 13>He sold five percent of their stakes.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, they would have I'm sure loved to sell for hire,

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<v Speaker 14>and then you know they could have raised more money.

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<v Speaker 14>But I think there's a real question over what time

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<v Speaker 14>frame do you evaluate a first day pop on. If

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<v Speaker 14>you look at twenty twenty one, a lot of those

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<v Speaker 14>stocks eventually bottomed out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking about some of the conversations Caroline had yesterday down

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<v Speaker 3>at the NYIC, just fantastic classic ipo stuff right, adjusted

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<v Speaker 3>gross margin of ninety two percent. Is this just because

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<v Speaker 3>everyone loves a high margin software name, or is there

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<v Speaker 3>some retail trading here?

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<v Speaker 6>What's really happening?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I think if you look at it's not just

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<v Speaker 13>this one.

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<v Speaker 14>There have been several recent tech IPOs that saw big

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<v Speaker 14>pops on the first day and in the recent trading,

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<v Speaker 14>and so I think what you're seeing here is there's

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<v Speaker 14>pent up demand for new tech listings.

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<v Speaker 13>Twenty twenty one was a blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 14>Year, and there was an eighteen month period where there

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<v Speaker 14>were zero tech IPOs, and when they first started to

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<v Speaker 14>come back, the market was a little bit skittish. But

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<v Speaker 14>I think they've decided they want tech stocks and they

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<v Speaker 14>want more of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that in twenty twenty five we've already picked

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four in terms of volumes, which is exciting

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Katie Ruth, thank you very much. Now coming up

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<v Speaker 3>on Bloomberg Tech when it were joined by the Roadblock

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<v Speaker 3>CEO David Zuki to break down the company's earnings. It's

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<v Speaker 3>advertising push and much much more. Are just a fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>way to end a week in big tech and big

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<v Speaker 3>tech earnings.

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<v Speaker 6>Stay with us. This is Bloomberg Tech. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 6>Bloomberg Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some kind of macro level economic concerns out there

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<v Speaker 3>in the market. I'm looking at the Magnificent seven, that

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<v Speaker 3>collection of megacap tech. Of course, within that Apple and Amazon,

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<v Speaker 3>which is actually the biggest points drag of most indices,

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<v Speaker 3>is an earning story. But at the same time, we

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<v Speaker 3>covered off area in the show Carro tariffs and tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>having an impact in different ways in some of those companies.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to more of that later in the Hour

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<v Speaker 3>one earnings. We haven't got too yet is coinbase revenue

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<v Speaker 3>projection missing estimates. But what I find so interesting about

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<v Speaker 3>coinbase is that its performance is directly tied to volatility

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<v Speaker 3>or in this case, a lack of volatility in crypto markets.

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<v Speaker 3>But that stock drop of sixteen percent is its biggest

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<v Speaker 3>drop since March. Very interesting, real calculation on one single name.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are so many to get in.

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<v Speaker 4>There are, And let's go back to roadblocks because the

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<v Speaker 4>gaming platform reported phenomenal booking increases more than fifty percent

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<v Speaker 4>in the last quarter daily active US account toping one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eleven million shares, So you see still trading

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<v Speaker 4>higher after the earnings posted yesterday morning. Moeblock's CEO David

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<v Speaker 4>and Bazuki joined us now Dave across the board. Growth

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<v Speaker 4>daily active use is particularly the older cohort. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>at hours engaged revenue bookings.

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<v Speaker 2>We're saying you raise your guidance.

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<v Speaker 4>These viral experiences grow a garden, for example, how much

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<v Speaker 4>are they contributing to this growth?

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<v Speaker 15>Hey, great to be here, and we have created an

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<v Speaker 15>essential really the conditions to grow a garden, in this

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 15>case growing amazing creative new experiences on roadblocks. In addition

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 15>to grow a garden, which is a cultural meme. Right now,

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 15>there's five experiences on roadblocks with more than ten million

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<v Speaker 15>daily active users, and I want to highlight in addition

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<v Speaker 15>to that great growth we saw, we saw thirteen and

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<v Speaker 15>up users grow daily active users sixty four percent.

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<v Speaker 16>Year on year.

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<v Speaker 15>We have a vision of ten percent of the global

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<v Speaker 15>gaming content market running on our platform, and this really

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<v Speaker 15>explosion of great new hits.

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<v Speaker 16>It supports that thesis.

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<v Speaker 15>I also want to highlight even without Grow a Garden,

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<v Speaker 15>we would have reported an amazing Queue two with great

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<v Speaker 15>year on ear growth rates.

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<v Speaker 4>Brook Covens there, Grow a Gardens there. Just delve into

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<v Speaker 4>these hits that you have. How much revenue do they

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<v Speaker 4>sort of supply to you? Can you break it out

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<v Speaker 4>on an individual win basis?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I want to highlight these hits. A lot of

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<v Speaker 15>them have been created in the last year. In fact,

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<v Speaker 15>four of the top five experiences were created in the

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<v Speaker 15>last year. Part of our vision is there's an enormous

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<v Speaker 15>headroom to innovate in the gaming space around how games

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<v Speaker 15>are created, how people consume them, how they're social, all

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<v Speaker 15>of this, and we believe this innovation is driving the

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<v Speaker 15>ability for creators to make awesome new experiences.

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<v Speaker 16>On the platform.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, we're starting to see some of these hits

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 15>go global want to highlight. For example, a pac DAUS

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 15>grew over seventy six percent year on year, and we

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<v Speaker 15>still have a lot of headroom. We're we're only about

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<v Speaker 15>three percent of the global gaming market running on our platform,

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<v Speaker 15>and our vision is to get to ten percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave, I've been able to get with your team and

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<v Speaker 3>talk a little bit in recent months about advertising, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things I think people don't necessarily understand

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<v Speaker 3>about roadblocks is advertising is a revenue stream for you,

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<v Speaker 3>but also for the deads that the creators themselves. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm right in saying you've never really given

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<v Speaker 3>us a dollar figure on how it's going. Would you

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<v Speaker 3>just update us on the ecosystem and the wins that

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 3>you see for roadblocks.

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<v Speaker 15>We do think there's a significant advertising opportunity on the platform,

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<v Speaker 15>and you're exactly right. All of this growth we've been sharing,

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 15>you know, bookings growth of north of fifty percent in

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 15>Q two was driven not by advertising, but by people

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<v Speaker 15>spending robucks on the platform. That said, there's several categories

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<v Speaker 15>of experiences and creators that advertising may be the best

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 15>way for them to make future revenue. Highlighting Typically our

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<v Speaker 15>vision is advertising for older users, not for younger users,

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<v Speaker 15>because we're already so healthy monetarily there, and we have

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 15>launched video advertising on the platform.

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<v Speaker 16>We just in the last week open it up for

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<v Speaker 16>more creators.

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<v Speaker 15>I will assure you if and when we hit ten

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<v Speaker 15>percent of the global gaming market space, that advertising will

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<v Speaker 15>be a key part of that top bookings line.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to stick with the creators because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to always understand the ecosystem. So one thing

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>that you've done is help creators get licensing deals. They

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<v Speaker 3>might create a game, that game might be franchisable.

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<v Speaker 6>Why do that?

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>But also, like, are you kind of taking the liability

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<v Speaker 3>on copyright and on legal and everything else that comes

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 3>with a deal like that?

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<v Speaker 15>We aren't really And what we've seen two years ago,

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 15>people might have thought, well, you're not going to have

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 15>any prime sports brands on your platform, and then all

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 15>of a sudden, we have, you know, NFL Universe, a

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 15>partnership between the NFL and an existing developer on the

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 15>platform be extremely successful. What we've started talking about with

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 15>our IP platform is the ability for great brands, whether

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 15>it's for example, Stranger Things, there's Quid game from Netflix

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<v Speaker 15>being available for creators on the platform who want to

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 15>integrate the brand and really create a win win in

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 15>that these brands can have a lot of people interacting

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 15>with them, it can drive engagement within them. So there's

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<v Speaker 15>a lot of opportunity in the future to connect great brands,

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 15>great ip with the creative energy of the developers on

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<v Speaker 15>our platform.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that win win idea and the revenue share

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 4>that goes to the developers. Also what's interesting is developers

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 4>are buying from these one off makers say that grow Garden,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 4>I think as a team who still owns about half

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 4>be sold off the other half of his business over

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 4>to New Zealand splitting point studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you helping facilitate that m and A. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you see your role there?

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<v Speaker 15>We would like to more and more make a very

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 15>liquid market there. And at our Roadblocks developer conference a

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 15>couple of years ago, I shared that as we have

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 15>a larger proportion of the gaming market running on Roadblocks,

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 15>it's not inconceivable that there will be a billion dollar

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 15>studio on the platform. We're well into the nine figures

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 15>hundreds of million hands of dollar type studios and grow

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 15>Garden was a great example of an initial small team

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 15>working with Jendell, who acquired part of it, and it

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 15>was a deal that was a win win deal. The

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 15>original creators did very well and Grow Garden has been

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 15>refined and tuned into now the largest simultaneously played game

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<v Speaker 15>in the history of the Guinness Book of World Records,

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<v Speaker 15>going over twenty million concurrent players.

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<v Speaker 16>A few weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, Dave, about three weeks ago you came onto the

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<v Speaker 3>program and discuss with me generative AI video based age verification.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 6>In the interim.

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<v Speaker 3>On July twenty fifth, we got the Online Safety Act,

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<v Speaker 3>and which will have an impact on you. Could you

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>just quantify how that those parameters might impact active users

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 3>or engagement just quickly.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 15>I want to highlight we have always had safety as

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 15>one of our top priorities, and we're not waiting for

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 15>the law or legislation. We've innovated with age estimation on

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 15>our own because we want to keep people on our platform.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 15>Roadblox is a place where we filter all the texts

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 15>and the voice, where we monitor for critical harms, where

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 15>there's no image sharing or any of the things that

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 15>might happen from that. So age estimation we took leadership

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 15>here in innovating and we think it's going to set

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 15>the standard for the industry.

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Roadblock CEO Data. It's great to have you back on

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Tech. Thank you very much. Now coming up, we're

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>standing by for SpaceX crewed Falcon nine rocket launch headed

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 3>to the International Space Station. Scrubbed yesterday. The countdown continues

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>for today.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back. This is Bloomberg Tech.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 3>We're just a couple of minutes away potentially four astronauts

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<v Speaker 3>set to launch to the International Space Station. Live shots

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<v Speaker 3>of NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, Complex thirty nine A.

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<v Speaker 3>The astronauts on the SpaceX Falcon nine rocket in Dragon capsule.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 3>This Dragon capsule Carrow has flown, will be at sick flight,

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<v Speaker 3>which is an interesting data point and milestone in and

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<v Speaker 3>of itself. I say potentially because I was looking at

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>those clouds. They're a bit worrying. I know that SpaceX

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>and NASA a bit worried as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talk about just.

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<v Speaker 4>What this means for Fulcan nine to zero and the

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 4>symbolic nature. It was but a few weeks ago that

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk was threatening to decommission it almost in his

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 4>tet tet with President Trump.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely right and absolutely so you know, NASA and America

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 3>rely on SpaceX to move astronauts and human beings to

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and from ISS. If this mission is successful and goes

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>off today, two hundred and ninety people will have been

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 3>to ISS in its history. Sixty eight of those will

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 3>have been flown by SpaceX in the modern era. So

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 3>it gives you a sense proportionately of how much SpaceX

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 3>has dominated this space SpaceX has been warning us about lightning.

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.239
<v Speaker 3>We were scrubbed yesterday. But that is the story that

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 3>you need to understand. You know, SpaceX is the de

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>facto market leader of moving not just humans but payload

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 3>to orbit generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and go back to the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 4>a sixth flight. It was originally commissioned for five flights.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 4>But they're trying to sweat this asset, right, This is

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 4>all about bringing.

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<v Speaker 2>The cost down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, look, the economics have changed vastly under SpaceX.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm keeping an arm on the clock because if we

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>tip over T minus one minute, it's a pretty good

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 3>signal that we will be launching in the sixty seconds time.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, the ISS has a limited shelf life. It's

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be decommissioned beyond twenty thirty and literally crashed

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.239
<v Speaker 3>into the ocean. But it needs servicing, and so you know,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>SpaceX right now is the only option. We have some

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 3>reporting this week that the interim chief of NASA, which

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 3>is Transport Secretary Sean Duffy, met with his Russian counterpart.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>There will be a Russian astronaut aboard this Crew eleven mission.

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 3>But if SpaceX wasn't there, then the only other option

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 3>for the United States would be Russia, which in this climate, Yeah.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 4>They'm been told to go for launched and this is

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<v Speaker 4>symbolic from a geopolitical perspective on who is on board.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll get to the crew. But you know, I

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>think this might be a first for Bloomberg Tech if

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>we ever carried a launch live.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. But with ten seconds on the clock,

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<v Speaker 6>let's listen.

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<v Speaker 17>In ten nine eight, seven, six, five four three two

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 17>one kitson pitches full power and lift.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 6>Go Falcon, go back, go through.

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<v Speaker 18>Together we rise as a space that Scroll eleven the

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<v Speaker 18>heads up to the International Space.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>State vehicles with pitching down range.

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<v Speaker 18>One point seven million pounds US phenomenal propelling Falcon nine

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 18>as the vehicle pitching down range and making its way

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 18>up the East coast and we'll soon join Expedition seventy

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 18>three of the Orbiting Laboratory. So far getting good call

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 18>outs on that first stage performance.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 19>We are now t plus thirty five seconds into the

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 19>Crew eleven mission on board Dragon and Falcon nine. The

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 19>Thalcon nine engines down are throwing down.

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<v Speaker 2>To power in colementary or not not to.

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<v Speaker 19>Help pass through the period of max Q or maximum

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 19>aerodynamic pressure on the vehicle during a cent max qu.

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<v Speaker 6>You just had max.

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 13>Q right there.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 16>Falcon nine is supersonic hell.

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<v Speaker 18>One minute nine seconds into what is a little bit

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 18>more lost up a nine minute flight up till as

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 18>Dragon continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>Got so currently traveling fifteen hundred kilometers no hour is

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the SpaceX Falcon nine with Dragon on top, goes through

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Earth's atmosphere or get up to around like fifty five

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty six hundred miles per hour. When it

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>gets to that orbital height, you're talking like seventeen thousand,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 3>five hundred miles per hour. They called the moment of

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 3>max Q carro, which is the moment where the rockets

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>undermost stress you know from a from a G force perspective,

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>passing through Earth's atmosphe that rough air that it passes

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 3>through for the next key moment is about I don't know,

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 3>let's say thirty seconds away, and that's where that first stage,

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the main booster you have main engine cutoff or Miko,

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of an important moment because from there

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you'll get the two stages separating, and then it's like

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>literally fully automated. It's I was going to say clockwork,

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 3>but it's rocket science and it's pretty flawless most of

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 4>And it Mike thinking, who's the pilot from NASA veteran

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 4>on these three previous missions, we understand managing to ensure

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 4>that we get safely these people on board, these four

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 4>crew members up to ISS so pretty integral moment, and

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 4>we wonder just how their bodies are feeling on board

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 4>right now? Can you just give us a sense of

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 4>what it's like to experience this sort of force.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because I've never been on a rocket,

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 3>but no, it's immense stress on the body. We just

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>saw that perfect shot of first and second stage separations.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 3>What you're looking at is the single engine attached to

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 3>the second stage at the base of dragon capsule. You

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 3>raise a really good point, which is on the crew

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<v Speaker 3>and you asked me earlier, but we got interrupted by

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<v Speaker 3>the flawless launch, frankly. But one of the interesting things

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<v Speaker 3>about this is that the commander of this mission, Xena Cardman,

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<v Speaker 3>she had been due to fly on Crew nine. She's

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<v Speaker 3>now leading Crew eleven. But this is her first ever

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<v Speaker 3>spaceflight and that's notable because this shuffle was caused, if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember, by the star Liner program and all the

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<v Speaker 3>different tests that kind of went wrong and the timeline slipped.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a really interesting and notable moment. We're about

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<v Speaker 3>three minutes and thirty seconds into this sequence.

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<v Speaker 6>The booster is it falls down to Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not seeing it in shot right now, will sort

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<v Speaker 3>of do its burns and flips pretty soon before it

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 3>comes into shot. But again, as it stands, this is

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 3>all nominal carrow, as they say, which means everything's going fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Going fine for Crew eleven to then dock to relieve

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Crew ten, instronauts who've been on to ISS for how long.

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<v Speaker 6>Many many months, I think since the spring.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea is that that there's a handover period, right

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<v Speaker 3>which is really which is really quite normal, and they

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, in order to get there, have to dock,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there will be plans in place by NASA

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<v Speaker 3>and SpaceX to bring the existing crew back down there online.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 3>And you know, like one of the good questions that

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 3>you raised earlier and that people always ask in our

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 3>coverage is like what.

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 6>Are they going for? And part of.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, like I'm repeating myself a little bit. ISS

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 3>gets decommissioned in about six years time. You know, it's

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the end of the agreement. It's served its life, but

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 3>in the interim it needs maintenance. And so as part

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 3>of the cargo payload that's going up with Crew eleven,

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 3>there'll be materials to service the humans on board, but

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 3>also like the scientific apparatus and equipment that's up there.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And let's just a little bit more. You mentioned Xena

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 2>cardman commander and.

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 4>One of the few active female commanders in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Mike the pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>You've also got Japan involved, Russia involved. This is geopolitics

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 4>at work here.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 8>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So JACKSA, which is the Japanese Space Agency, has sent

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Kimie A Yui. This is his second space flight. He

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<v Speaker 3>actually went up in space twenty fifteen. And then this

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 3>is the bit, right there's the reporting that we had

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<v Speaker 3>today that the interim NASA chief, which is Transport Secretary

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Sean Duffy, had met with his Russian counterpart. Because the

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 3>context were SpaceX not around to do this, then America,

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<v Speaker 3>because of what's happened with Boeing and Starliner, would probably

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 3>rely on ros Cosmos, the Russian agency, to take American

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.919
<v Speaker 3>astronauts to the International Space Station. Now, in this case,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>there is a Russian astronaut aboard the capsule. His name

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 3>is Oleg Klattonov. It's his first trip to space as well.

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And away from whatever is happening in geopolitics and in markets,

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 3>remember that the agreement between America and Russia CARRO is longstanding,

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, the agreement literally to cooperate on not just ISS,

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>but move astronauts from Earth into into outer orbit in ISS.

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 4>What's so interesting is the dominance of Eno Musk SpaceX.

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Here we also think about Japan being in the mix,

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 4>and indeed Russia, as you say, alongside the United States.

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 4>It was but this week earlier, So much has happened

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 4>this week, but that Australia didn't manage to get a

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 4>suckered off the ground. Just where do we stand in

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 4>this so called space race.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 3>So SpaceX as a private company, but an American company,

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 3>dominates the vast majority of payload to orbit around eighty

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 3>five to ninety percent, including human and non human payload.

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 3>China is increasingly doing more. You will also remember that

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 3>like there are other nations around the world. Some of

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the Gulf states like Ua have space ambitions. But it

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 3>goes back to what we were talking about earlier, right,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>which is the economics of launch. As we see the

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>booster on the left hand side of the screen re

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>entering Earth's atmosphere, falling down using aerodynamics, but also the

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>paddles at the base to orient itself and slow itself down.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 3>On the clock, by the way, I'm jumping around a bit,

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 3>but we're seven minutes in and the kind of key

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 3>moment is about forty seconds away where we should see

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 3>that booster land back to the landing zone. But to

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>answer your question, yes, SpaceX dominates, but there is pressure

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>coming from both government sector backed and private sector backed

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>rivals around the world, and we're.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 4>Just losing some connection there. We have it, will they

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 4>make a landing. It's like art ed there, we have it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's rocket science.

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Art and rocket science at work, but just remind us

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 4>because we've just been so in awe of not only

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 4>these landings and the reusable rockets, but the catch that

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 4>we've seen in the next iteration of spacecraft coming from

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk.

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so Falcon nine is SpaceX's high volume vehicle and

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 3>launch system. That's what we're looking at here with Dragon

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 3>caps you're on top. But they also have Falcon Heavy,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 3>which is used for basically higher density satellite payload. It

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 3>hasn't taken humans. And then Starships the next phase. Starship

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 3>the biggest rocket that Humankind's ever built, and I think

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk has said on X that the next full

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 3>test of Starship is going to be in the next

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 3>month or so. The mechanism for the Starship booster in

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 3>that system is, as you say, not to land it

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>on a landing pad, as we just demonstrated with Falcon nine,

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 3>but to catch it. And you know, we can't do

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>this right now because we're carrying the launch live, but

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 3>go on the internet and look at how that works.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 3>That bit they've kind of done. They've done it successfully.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 3>It's the ongoing spacecraft part of Starship that they're still

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 3>working out Let's.

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Talk a little bit about economics here of NASA as well,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 4>because we just see the energy behind wanting to put

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 4>money to work behind Elon Musk SpaceX, and the rounds

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 4>get larger and the valuation just sols.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But NASA itself is trying to do more with less.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 3>It's well, I mean, and SpaceX has been at the

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 3>core of that story, and it's something that's started in

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 3>the Obama administration. You know, again, the economics of space

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 3>have changed. SpaceX has never disclosed the per seat cost,

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>but you can do the math based on the disclosures

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 3>that we do have, and it's several million dollars per person.

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Compare and contrast with what else has been out there

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 3>from United Launch Alliance. And let me just catch this

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 3>key moment here.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at that.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 19>Do you see Dragon coast into its orbit.

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 8>And a wonderful view.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 18>There is Dragon Endeavor with crew eleven on board.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 6>Safe inspiration confirmed and safe.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 17>In Dragon Cheap engineer on dragging the ground. Containa, Mike

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 17>kem here Hole, welcome to orbit on behalf of the

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 17>entire Falcon team. We thank you for flying with Falcon

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 17>today and wish you a great mission. Dragon will take

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 17>you from here over to'll launch director for a few words.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 3>On behalf so Caro, what that was was dragging the

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 3>capsule and the left hand side of the screen you

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 3>see the crew inside there, separating from the second stage,

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and now they're in orbit, right, And I'm just going

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 3>to give you a quick statistic which is very interesting.

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.760
<v Speaker 3>We were scrubbed on Thursday, twenty three hours later.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 6>We did launch on.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Friday, but because of where ISS was lined up in

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 3>with Planet Earth. For a layman's explanation, actually what's going

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 3>to happen is that all being well and equal, Crew

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 3>eleven and Dragon will arrive at the ISS at exactly

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 3>the same time on Saturday morning, about three am, eas

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 3>in time as they would have done if they had

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 3>launched yesterday. And that kind of speaks to speaks to

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 3>rocket science, doesn't it.

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:28.720
<v Speaker 4>This view of space and analysis of curvature of Earth

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 4>and speed at which we rotate in rbit, it sometimes

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 4>works beautifully in a lignes as this entire viewership has

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 4>been seeing throughout the show of what's happening currently live

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 4>with Falcon nine and how we start to see the

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 4>astronauts now relieve, Now just go back to the economics

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 4>a little bit, because what we're expecting now is they

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 4>are going to reach iss they're going to be relieving

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Crew ten.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 2>But in the future, what we see fewer astronauts on.

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Board maybe I mean again, the movement here is for

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 3>the private sector to build spaces and so you know

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 3>the cadence of that happening. Who knows this crew will

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 3>be there for six months. NASA's thinking about maybe eight months,

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, relieve Crew ten, they were there since March.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 3>These come home, but this missions to success so far.

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<v Speaker 4>We continue to see how the astronauts celebrate on board.

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<v Speaker 4>As you mentioned, Japan, the US and Russia represented. That

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