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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Rick new heinsl college football analyst, former UCLA,

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Speaker 1: Colorado Washington head coach, joins us on the program. We

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Speaker 1: have Brian Kelly next hour. You get one question for

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly. What would you ask him? How much does

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Speaker 1: he like Gumbo? This is a monster hire and good

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Speaker 1: for Brian, He's so deserving of it. Okay, how do

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Speaker 1: you do this in a tactful way? Leaving Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: to take a job like this and everybody? From what

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Speaker 1: I'm told behind the scenes that Notre Dame was shocked?

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Speaker 1: So how do you do it in a classy way?

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Speaker 1: From behind the scene. But I'm being told is that

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Speaker 1: he and Jack Corbert were at odds from the upgrade

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Speaker 1: to the Notre Dame programs. Way, man, hold on, Rick,

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Speaker 1: I got a bad connection there. It's uh, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if we can reconnect there. May give him a minute there, mclovin,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna go with? We start out with,

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Speaker 1: do you think the current college football final four will stick? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Seventy eight say no? So I have to ask what

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Speaker 1: team drops out? Yeah, Paul, why do you think people

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Speaker 1: are so bothered by Brian Kelly flying back, doing a

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Speaker 1: quick goodbye to his players, and then going back to

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Speaker 1: work for LSU as new employer. Isn't the nature of

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Speaker 1: the beast? Well, your team is hanging around with the

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Speaker 1: possibility going into the if Notre Dame was undefeated, and

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Speaker 1: let's say that they were three in the country, would

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly be leaving? Like, That's what I'm curious about.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Notre Dame is waiting for Luke Fickle's

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Speaker 1: season to end at Cincinnati, not making him leave right now.

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Speaker 1: And even though this is really important with recruiting, but

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Speaker 1: it feels like Notre Dame might be waiting for Luke

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Speaker 1: Fickle to coach as long as he coaches at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Let me bring back a coach new heisl All right,

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Speaker 1: so you're saying that Brian Kelly probably didn't have a

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Speaker 1: a good relationship with the athletic director. Let me see,

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Speaker 1: did we can you hear me? Rick? Okay? So what

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Speaker 1: were you saying about Brian Kelly and Jack Swarbrick. Well,

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Speaker 1: the word on the street is, and I don't have

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Speaker 1: confirmation from Brian on this, that they were at odds

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Speaker 1: in terms of upgrades for the program to take it

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Speaker 1: to the next level. And obviously Brian's hearing from an

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Speaker 1: agent that there's this great desire for him elsewhere. And

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Speaker 1: you can't blame a guy for going for a ninety

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Speaker 1: five million dollar deal and a chance to recruit the

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen that you can get at LSU, which was

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Speaker 1: exactly the reason Nick Saban left Michigan State for LSU. Okay,

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Speaker 1: explain Notre Dame in trying to get certain how difficult

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Speaker 1: is that, you know the limitations of trying to get

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Speaker 1: players into Notre Dame. You're not in charge of two

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Speaker 1: things at Notre Dame, whereas in a lot of these

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Speaker 1: schools you can get anybody in. So you're not in

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Speaker 1: charge of admissions, so there's going to be a ceiling

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Speaker 1: as to what you can do in terms of getting

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Speaker 1: kids into school. And you're not in charge of discipline.

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Speaker 1: You're going to I mean, how many times have we

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Speaker 1: seen Notre Dame with the honor code kids not being

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Speaker 1: able to play. Nick Saban puts them in a ride

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Speaker 1: along with the local security and they're back on the field.

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Speaker 1: So you're not in charge of those things, and those

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Speaker 1: might seem like little things, but those are game changers

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to, you know, play for the big prizes.

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Speaker 1: How does it work behind the scenes that you could

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Speaker 1: put a deal together and it feels like it's a

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Speaker 1: twenty four hour period. How did you do it or

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Speaker 1: your agent do it? So you can you can stay

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Speaker 1: clean because you can say I didn't speak to anybody,

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Speaker 1: but your agent certainly did. Yeah. Well, those those conversations

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Speaker 1: obviously are going on, and you just make sure that

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Speaker 1: your agent understands you don't want to be bothered until

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Speaker 1: it's the appropriate time. What I would say, though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: a week later. And the reason we can't is because

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Speaker 1: of this December signing date. I would advocate, I would

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Speaker 1: push all my fellow coaches or what it used to

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Speaker 1: signing date. Stop this nonsense, because the transfer portal's going crazy.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna end up choosing from that buffet line first anyway,

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Speaker 1: and let this coaching carousel wait till after this weekend,

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Speaker 1: after we've made the determinations as to who's in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: To hear Gary Barda last night say that the committee

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Speaker 1: mate way in that Brian Kelly's absence could have a

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Speaker 1: factor in whether or not Notre Dames should be in

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff. That's nonsense, and we're doing it

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Speaker 1: to ourselves. Coaches just need to wait one more week

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Speaker 1: for all this carousel to begin, and if we'll move

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Speaker 1: couldn't be in a playoff game, or would they hold

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Speaker 1: it against Nick Saban? The fact that Notre Dame got

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Speaker 1: this far and Brian Kelly's not coaching. Why am I

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Speaker 1: penalizing Notre Dame again for Brian Kelly taking the LS

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Speaker 1: huge job. I think that that's embarrassing that the committee

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Speaker 1: is going to use that. It's it's unfathomable to me.

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't understand it, And if I were

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Speaker 1: a Notre Dame player, I would be absolutely irate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're sitting there in the sixth hole. It doesn't take

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Speaker 1: a lot of imagination nor a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: chaos this weekend to get Notre Dame into the top four,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you can argue about their strength of

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Speaker 1: schedule and such, but you can't sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 1: their head coach is gone. That to me is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't say it if their left guard was gone,

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Speaker 1: so you shouldn't say it because their head coach is gone.

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Speaker 1: Better job Notre Dame USC. LSU. I've always said, and

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Speaker 1: you'll know, I'm a West Coast Hank, that the SC

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Speaker 1: job is as good a job as there is in

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Speaker 1: college football. It sits right in the middle of Southern California,

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Speaker 1: which is laden with talent. Unfortunately, much of that talent

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Speaker 1: for the Pac twelve has been leaving right. The two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were on top of the of the heispan

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Speaker 1: Race CJ. Strouded Ohio State and Bryce Young at Alabama

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Speaker 1: are both Southern California kids. I mean, that's that's where

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Speaker 1: they're from. And Lincoln Riley coming to SC is the

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Speaker 1: best news for not only SC, it's the best news

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Speaker 1: for the PAC twelve and certainly George playoff coff as

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Speaker 1: he starts to negotiate the next TV deal. Then would

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Speaker 1: you have LSU over note LSU a better job than

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Listen, Notre Dame has the most mystique of

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Speaker 1: any of the teams in college football, and for that reason,

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Speaker 1: that makes it exciting. It's why they stay as competitive

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Speaker 1: an exciting deal. But LSU every year is going to

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Speaker 1: get the best from the state of Louisiana. They're the

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Speaker 1: only Power five school in that state, and that is

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable region for great college football talent, in particular

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Speaker 1: of college football. Yeah, it sounds strange for somebody like us,

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Speaker 1: you know, our age to say that LSU is a

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Speaker 1: better job than Notre Dame. But the reality is LSU

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Speaker 1: the question, and this had the factor in Lincoln Riley's

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Speaker 1: the sec going to be now that you're adding Texas,

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Speaker 1: you're adding Oklahoma sixteen teams, there's probably going to be

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Speaker 1: four teen pods LSU. If I'm just doing my own

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Speaker 1: there going, that's not a bad gig. You're going to

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Speaker 1: have to play Alabama every other year, but not every year,

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Speaker 1: so maybe not as good, but that Oklahoma gig for

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley to be in the SEC recruiting against all

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Speaker 1: those guys, or being in the West Coast and being

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Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. Adding one hundred and ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars to that package makes that pretty attractive. What do

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Speaker 1: you do if you're Luke Fickle at Cincinnati. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: got to be the favorite to get the Notre Dame job.

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Speaker 1: I had it done pretty good authority that he was

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Speaker 1: very close to the sc situation but waiting to see

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Speaker 1: what happened at Notre Dame. The question is was Marcus

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Speaker 1: that job. Remember Brian Kelly pointed out that Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 1: Jack's Warbrick saying I may not name an interim. I

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Speaker 1: think he would do that because he wants Luke Fickle

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Speaker 1: rather than putting Marcus Freeman in as the interim and

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Speaker 1: having the kids all respond to him, as I think

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Speaker 1: we all know that they would. Yeah, he's the defensive

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Speaker 1: last week, could you have seen a scenario where maybe

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Speaker 1: as much as I've had difficulty with Jim in the past,

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Speaker 1: was actually fun to see him get that done. That

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Speaker 1: was a collegiance a scene as I can remember, with

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Speaker 1: college football? How tense did it get between you and

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Speaker 1: Jim Horble? Oh? Well, and the aftermath of that game

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Speaker 1: where they beat us seventeen to nine and I'm driving

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Speaker 1: It got tense. If it was go time, how would

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Speaker 1: it have played out? Rick Well, I probably would have lost,

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Speaker 1: but I would have been in such a cur I

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Speaker 1: would have just gone for it. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: little bigger than I am, but you know what, I

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Speaker 1: just remember the shock that came over me. And then

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Speaker 1: you remember he did the same thing to Schwartz when

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Speaker 1: he was in the NFL, and Schwartz was with the Lions,

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Speaker 1: and I was literally watching film that day after our

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Speaker 1: Saturday game and I said, he did it again. Everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of mad at myself that I didn't do the same.

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Speaker 1: But no, it's listen, he is I could like in him.

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Speaker 1: If he's on your team, you absolutely love him. And

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Speaker 1: if he's not, you want the next shot at him.

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Speaker 1: But he called out Ryan day after the win over

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. He was like, Hey, some guys wake up

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Speaker 1: on third base and want to tell you that they

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Speaker 1: hit a triple. And I'm like, wow, I'm not into

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Speaker 1: the pop culture and all this stuff, but he is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate troller, ultimate troller. Great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: It's always Rick. Thank you buddy, Happy holidays, my friend.

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Speaker 1: He is Brian Kelly, the LSU head coach, joining us

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Speaker 1: on the program. Good morning, coach, Congratulations, how do you feel.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little tired right now, but I've got chickory

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Speaker 1: We're going to do some photo shoots with the family. Um,

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Speaker 1: and also look ahead of what's coming up in the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy football world. That's right, Dan. Every week we're gonna

428
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Speaker 1: scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo

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Speaker 1: boost your fantasy lineup, sits, starts, fantasy football players rankings

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Speaker 1: to get you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to

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Speaker 1: I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmen and met Dan

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Speaker 1: Buyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast and wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Matt Leiner analyst for Fox Big Noon Kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Heisman Trophy winner. He's part of Fox's

435
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Speaker 1: onsite pregame show in Indie, Iowa, and Michigan on Saturday night,

436
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Speaker 1: and that'll be for the Big Ten Championship. Matt, how

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Speaker 1: are you not a lot to talk about in the

438
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Speaker 1: world of college football? Huh? Then I'm first of all,

439
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. And did I just walk into you

440
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Speaker 1: not liking fireball shops? Is that what I heard? Yes, yes,

441
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Speaker 1: you do, and I'm gonna, I mean, let's have a drink. Well,

442
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Speaker 1: we'll take a few of those down. I'm a big

443
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Speaker 1: fireball guy. Yeah, but see, I would just rather do

444
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, whiskey or something like that. Yeah, I mean, look,

445
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it, but yeah, I mean, how

446
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: about how about the how about this week? I mean

447
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: just the I don't think it's ever we've ever seen

448
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Speaker 1: a week like this in college football with just obviously

449
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: the amount of money that's being shelled out for these coaches,

450
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: just the big jobs, the big coaches. Um, obviously I'm ecstatic,

451
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Speaker 1: which I know what we're going to talk about. But um,

452
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Speaker 1: and then and then just you know, Championship Saturday, Championship weekend.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean there's some big games and um, still a

454
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Speaker 1: lot of you know, a handful of scenarios to see

455
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Speaker 1: who gets into the top four. So yeah, it's been

456
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Speaker 1: a while the year in college football. It's been a

457
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Speaker 1: great year in college football. Uh. You know, we've been

458
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Speaker 1: on the road almost every week, which has been a

459
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. And again, but real quick before we

460
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Speaker 1: get into this, I'm a little jealous because every week

461
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Speaker 1: I see my buddy b Q on with you, Brady. Yeah, um,

462
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and I just you know, I just give me a

463
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Speaker 1: little more love, DP if you want me to get

464
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Speaker 1: on more. You know, I got to watch my Notre

465
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: Dame guy. I've been calling, we've been calling, We've asked

466
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Speaker 1: for them, and my buddy mclovin is there. Shout out

467
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: to mclovin that and I would do fireball shots together. Dan,

468
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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, Like you know, Brady is a little

469
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Speaker 1: too pretty for this show, so you're more of a

470
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Speaker 1: man's man. But you know we've reached out and they say, nope,

471
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Speaker 1: he's not available, he's not available. Yeah, I need to

472
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: I need to talk to somebody. Then, all right, yeah,

473
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: and look, I'll blow right by Brady Quinn. I mean

474
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Speaker 1: he never won a Heisman. I appreciate that. Man. All Right, Um,

475
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: if I told you a week ago USC was hiring

476
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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, Notre Dame was gonna lose Brian Kelly, d LSU,

477
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Speaker 1: and Michigan was gonna beat Ohio State, which one would

478
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: you have said that ain't happening. Probably Lincoln Riley to USC.

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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean that was really and again I'm more, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously a little more invested in that. And I didn't

481
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Speaker 1: see any of them happening. The only one, to be

482
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Speaker 1: honest with you, that I thought how to shot was Michigan. Now,

483
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: I picked Ohio State and I thought they were gonna win.

484
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Speaker 1: But that on this team and obviously now talking about

485
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Speaker 1: in hindsight, this team is is just different than it's

486
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: been in the past, and they went out and proved that.

487
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, the one, the one that shocked me

488
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Speaker 1: the most was my alma mater, and it shocked me

489
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: in a great way, obviously. But um, you know, that weekend,

490
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Speaker 1: I was hearing a lot of chatter about potentially Matt

491
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Speaker 1: Campbell and I was getting ready, you know, kind of

492
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Speaker 1: just to all right, get on board. He's a really

493
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Speaker 1: good football coach. Be happy with him. Um. But then

494
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Speaker 1: I get a text, um on Sunday from from my

495
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Speaker 1: buddy Bruce Feltman, who I know, you know well, and um,

496
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Speaker 1: he says Lincoln Riley. And I said, holy hell, are

497
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Speaker 1: you kidding? And I had, I had, I had talked

498
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Speaker 1: to a few people prior the week's up to it

499
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Speaker 1: saying that he would he the only job that he

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Speaker 1: would potentially take was USC But I was like, there's

501
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Speaker 1: no way, I mean, you know, and then all of

502
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Speaker 1: a sudden it happened and I and I couldn't be

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, Dan, it's it's that's what sc needs.

504
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: They needed that splash. They needed someone who can change

505
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Speaker 1: the culture there can you know. It's just it's just

506
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Speaker 1: it's a home run higher in every sense of the word. Um,

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Speaker 1: USC is relevant immediately. Um, he's already flipping a ton

508
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Speaker 1: of recruits. I was just looking at some of these

509
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Speaker 1: recruits this morning. He's already he's already getting some guys

510
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Speaker 1: that were interested in Ohio State now they want to

511
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Speaker 1: go to USC. Like he's he's hitting the ground running,

512
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Speaker 1: And I couldn't be more happy, you know, to be

513
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Speaker 1: a troachan and that he's the next uge coach head

514
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Speaker 1: coach there. It's never done in a delicate way. It's

515
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Speaker 1: hard to do that. It feels like there's there's outrage

516
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Speaker 1: nationally that Bryan Kelly left Notre Dame. There's not out

517
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: age for Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma. But because Notre Dame's polarizing,

518
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Speaker 1: is there a tactful way for a coach to leave.

519
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Speaker 1: If you were a player and you played for Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame and Brian Kelly comes back from a recruiting trip

521
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Speaker 1: and says, guys gathered seven am, I'm taking the LSU job.

522
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Speaker 1: How would you feel? Yeah, I mean it's it's it's

523
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Speaker 1: hard because the one thing with Notre Dame is, i

524
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Speaker 1: mean they're still they're still a very realistic path they

525
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Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. I mean, can you imagine they

526
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Speaker 1: get into the playoff and the narrative around that without

527
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly. I mean, it's so so that's the weird

528
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Speaker 1: thing about that. It's just like, these players are right

529
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Speaker 1: there in a position either going to a New Year's

530
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Speaker 1: Six Bowl or a realistic shot. Not a lot has

531
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Speaker 1: to happen for them to sneak into the top four,

532
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, your your coaches is

533
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Speaker 1: taking a job and three hours later he's saying by

534
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Speaker 1: in two minutes and he's out. And then obviously you

535
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: know the story out there of went out recruiting, and

536
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: then that that news kind of breaking right after that,

537
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: and his whole staff is out recruiting. So, um, is

538
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: there a tactful way? You know, I'm sure he could

539
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: have probably handled it a little bit better. But in

540
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Speaker 1: this day and age, with the you know, the early

541
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Speaker 1: signing period and the amount of money that it's just been.

542
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one hundred million dollars and you look

543
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Speaker 1: at you, you look at excuse me, lsu and and

544
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Speaker 1: I by the way, Brian Kelly is a is a

545
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Speaker 1: damn good football coach. He's one of the best in

546
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Speaker 1: the business. Um, but you look at the position, you know,

547
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: the situation LSU, the way they can recruit there, Um,

548
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: they want a title just a couple of years ago,

549
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: and then you dangle out, you dangle out nine figures

550
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, ten figure, whatever it is, nine figures,

551
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: and it's hard to pass up. So yeah, look, I

552
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: think it's part of the business. It's unfortunate, and it's

553
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: the way. I mean Lincoln, you know, Lincoln, their season

554
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: was done, they did it right after. But even that

555
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: happened within within hours, you know, and all of a sudden,

556
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: these players are like, hey, what about me? Like what

557
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: happened here? So do you think Brian Kelly would have

558
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: left if Notre Dame was ranked third? Uh? Yeah, Okay,

559
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. I think I think he

560
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: saw the money. Um, I think he you know obviously

561
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Speaker 1: from from talking to a few people and just reading

562
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the stories out there. Obviously there's some things that you know,

563
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe he wanted there that didn't happen over time. Um.

564
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Speaker 1: But then again, you know, he did hit the ceiling there.

565
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean he did. He got them to the playoffs

566
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Speaker 1: multiple times. It's just there's a gap between Notre Dame

567
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: and Alabama's and Ohio States and Clemsons of the world,

568
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: and you know, he just I think he took them

569
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Speaker 1: as far as he could possibly take them. And then

570
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Speaker 1: you look at the job like LSU with the talent

571
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: that's available, even the talent on that roster, I mean,

572
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: it's still a very talented roster um. You know, there's

573
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Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to win a national championship there.

574
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's look, it's it's kind of the way

575
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: this the whole Calle football is set up with you know,

576
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: the early signing period in these these coaches jumping. I mean,

577
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley was introduced Monday, which I was at the

578
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Speaker 1: press conference that night. He's out recruiting already down in

579
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Speaker 1: Orange County and so other cuff. I mean, that's how

580
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: fast this is happening. There's no time to look in

581
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Speaker 1: the mirror. So but unfortunately dead as you said, you know,

582
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Speaker 1: the players are the one that that suffered from that.

583
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: Did Notre Dame recruit you, They did not. They did

584
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Speaker 1: not recruit me, I think at the time. So at

585
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Speaker 1: the time they were it was Ty Willingham, they were

586
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: they had a lot more of the you know, they

587
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: had quarterbacks that can move and that's not me. I

588
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: think they had Carlisle Holiday. I remember if Carlisle Holliday

589
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: was a good player for them. Actually my teammate in Arizona. Um,

590
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: he's to end up playing receiver for us in the league.

591
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: But um, I don't think I was a good enough

592
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Speaker 1: athlete for them. At the time. Mclovin said you didn't

593
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Speaker 1: have the academics to get in man, and that's probably

594
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: true as well. Listen, I was. I was a social

595
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: major at USC, and I took ballroom dancing my last year.

596
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: So I remember people gave you so much grief for that.

597
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: I remember having you on talking to you about that.

598
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: But here's the thing people need to realize. I'd already graduated.

599
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: I just had to I had to take two units

600
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Speaker 1: just to be eligible for my senior year. So how

601
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: about this my whole senior year, which was just incredible.

602
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: And again I came back because I wanted to be

603
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Speaker 1: at USC and all of those things. I took two

604
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: units because I had already graduated. So people are up

605
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Speaker 1: and over. I'm like I was either that or an

606
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Speaker 1: art class. I'm like, all right, I'll take ballroom dancing.

607
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: This could be fun. It was Tuesday nights once a

608
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Speaker 1: week during the fall, so my schedule was just all

609
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: football one night a week. Actually, you know who I

610
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: took that class with. Mark Sanchez was in that class

611
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: and no one and Mark Sanchez was a true freshman,

612
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: so he took it I think as an elective or

613
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Speaker 1: whatever at the time. And nobody rapped Mark Sanchez for

614
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: taking ball and dancing. Yeah, no, man, it's all right.

615
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I had to. I think I got an a minus

616
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: in the class too, So, you know, and you probably

617
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: good place to meet women. Uh yeah, you know, I

618
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: don't remember. To be honest with you, I'm not sure.

619
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't even know how many people

620
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: were in that class. But yeah, I mean listen, I

621
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: didn't take a lot of that with me post USC.

622
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't do the two step right now

623
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: with the box step. But if you ask me before

624
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I say goodbye, how does Iowa beat Michigan in this

625
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: game this Saturday night on Fox? Yeah, look, this is

626
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: a this is you know, it's not a trap game.

627
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a conference championship game. I was

628
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: a really good football team, but one of the interesting things.

629
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Speaker 1: The way i was built in the way they've won

630
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: this year is takeaways on defense. And again that's a

631
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: that's a very common thing. You know, Hey, if you

632
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: get turnovers all that, you're gonna win a lot of games.

633
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: But the way it is for them is thirty percent

634
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: of Iowa's scoring has come off a takeaways. Iowa, and

635
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know this is just they're not built

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Speaker 1: to go eighty ninety yard drives. It's not the type

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Speaker 1: of offense they have. They have fed off of their

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Speaker 1: defense being outstanding at creating turnovers because it gives them

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Speaker 1: short fields and that's how they've operated and that's how

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Speaker 1: they won a lot of games. The two losses this year,

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Speaker 1: they had one takeaway. So if if Michigan just protects

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Speaker 1: a ball, which they've done all season long, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very challenging for Iowa to just drive and

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Speaker 1: score of points. That's just not how they're built. So

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Speaker 1: that's just something to keep an eye on in this game.

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Speaker 1: Is when Iowa is opportunistic on defense, which they are

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Speaker 1: very good defense, otherwise, then they're gonna have a shot

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Speaker 1: to win this game. But look, they I think Michigan

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Speaker 1: is Michigan is legit. They're very, very good. They have

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Speaker 1: their identity. They got those bad boys up front on defense.

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson a job of who are very good players, first

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Speaker 1: round guys. Haskins is a study. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: tough for Iowa, but you never Kurt ference and the

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Speaker 1: job he does and that team. You can just never

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Speaker 1: count those guys out. So it'll be it could be

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Speaker 1: a low scoring fistfight, but it'll be a good game.

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Speaker 1: Safe travels, Matt. Great to have you on again and

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Dan, thanks for having me buddy.

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Speaker 1: Matt Leiner, analyst for Fox Big Noon kick Off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll kick Brady Quinn at the curb. I mean he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a heisman. I mean I won't say that

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Speaker 1: to Brady on Friday. I'll say, Man, good to have you.

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Speaker 1: We got tired of Matt Leinart. We had him on

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday,