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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we discussed

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest issues in the world with sports

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Speaker 1: at Michael Laren, I'm Scarlett and Don Dmien sass Hour.

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Speaker 1: Now the suits here at Bloomberg told me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I get a little excited sometimes when I introduce some

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Speaker 1: of the guests and the calm it down. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's Chris collins Worth. He's a former NFL pro bowler

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Speaker 1: co host of NBC Sunday Night Football Prime Time TVs

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Speaker 1: number one TV show for eleven consecutive you years. I

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Speaker 1: kept a calm as much as I could. Chris, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, my man, for joining us here on

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Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business of Sports. And I was kind of

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Speaker 1: hoping you might be excited to hear that I was

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Speaker 1: coming on. But that'll do. Man. Eleven years, It's like,

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Speaker 1: where did the time go? It's been. It's been unbelievable. Actually,

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Speaker 1: this is I think my four ink gear on on

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Speaker 1: the show and eleven straight years now or ten straight

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Speaker 1: years is the number one show on TV. So it's

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Speaker 1: been a nice, nice little run here that we've put together. Well, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, we dinosaurs, remember with Cloudy your epic

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchups versus the Niners, your unbelievable two six

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Speaker 1: yard game MSUs Baltimore back in eighty three. But most

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Speaker 1: of gen Z knows you as the face of you know,

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Speaker 1: of Sunday Night Football in the voice of Matten O nine, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: and twelve. So I think for audience, what I think

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Speaker 1: we'd love to hear is if you could reflect briefly,

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Speaker 1: not just on your professional on your collegiate accomplishments. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how do you kind of redefine the wide receiver position

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Speaker 1: At University of Florida? I mean, I mean, am I right?

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Speaker 1: A young Steve Spurrier was your coach back then. He

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Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator, and actually Mike Shanahan was another

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there. Mike Shanahan was twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: He came in there. We had not won a game

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Speaker 1: the year before when oh, ten and one, um and

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Speaker 1: Shanahan comes in. He's twenty six and so after the

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Speaker 1: games he'd want to hang out with the players. So

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Speaker 1: we take him out to the bars and we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get carted, and he would. So to give you some

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Speaker 1: idea of how long I've known some of these people

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Speaker 1: around the league. But yeah, Spurrier was amazing, just one

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Speaker 1: of the most creative offensive minds. And um, I actually

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Speaker 1: I became a wide receiver the next day. So to

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Speaker 1: give you some idea of where all this has led.

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Speaker 1: But my my claim to fame, I guess at the

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Speaker 1: University of Florida, was in my very first game that

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Speaker 1: I ever played against Rice University, I threw a nine

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown as a quarterback, which has become like the

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Speaker 1: greatest trivia questions like who hold the n c A

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Speaker 1: record for the longest touch down past and you literally

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Speaker 1: my name. And uh so if you know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that one, you can win any bar fight. Chris,

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you about some of the big

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Speaker 1: themes that will be top of mind as we begin

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Speaker 1: this new NFL season, And I can't stop reading about

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and how the NFL and the Players Association

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Speaker 1: to have finally we shouldn agreement. Um, we understand will

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Speaker 1: be an eleven game suspension without pay a fine of

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Speaker 1: five million dollars in this mandatory evaluation by behavioral experts

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Speaker 1: with some kind of treatment program. Who comes out of

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody comes out of this looking okay.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a tough day for the National Football

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Speaker 1: League and uh Deshaun Watson. UM, you know, it's just disappointing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you that I did not see

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Speaker 1: There was a moment in time when there were hurricanes

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Speaker 1: a setback. I mean, there's just no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But to open in this football season, what this kind

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Speaker 1: of the big players this season, and I'm speaking as

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Speaker 1: don't have Jonathan Taylor as your number one pick running

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Speaker 1: when it's unbelievable. We live underneath an airport, a small

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Speaker 1: He might be even better this year. So who knows? Well, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Now you're right in our wheelhouse here. I mean you're

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Speaker 1: it's insane, But I think it is exactly where the

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Speaker 1: that's what sells, no question about it. It's what the

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