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Speaker 2: But you know Joe in this case, yeah, we when

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Speaker 1: When it comes to kids? The antenna go up, you know,

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Speaker 1: He's station station in Louisiana, right.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they did. So they go to

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Speaker 1: It makes no sense whatsoever. But as we have seen

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Speaker 2: You know, Joe, from the very beginning of this case,

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Speaker 2: And when they're telling stories that are easy to verify

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Joe. And I've asked of you and

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Speaker 2: You know, it's she had stated a lot of things

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Speaker 2: She Story number two, of course, was that Boswell tells

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Speaker 2: We gave her to a nice young woman who will

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Speaker 2: fifteen months old, I think I said earlier, eighteen fifteen

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Speaker 2: seen December tenth or eleventh. We're now down range past February,

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Speaker 2: why it's the gloves come off in the investigation, Joe.

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Speaker 2: It's just not to be believed, and they've got to

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Speaker 1: And let me say one more thing about these these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Evelyn's grandfather that actually called investigators. Now,

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Speaker 2: It would have been probably another year before she would

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Speaker 1: Joe, Yeah, And you know that's uh. I think that's

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Speaker 2: They now, let me ask you, Joe, because you're going

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Speaker 2: up an accident that could have been feasible, and the

431
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: mother panics and at eighteen put the baby in the

432
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: trash trying to figure out what to do. I cannot

433
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: fathom this. I'm trying to make up something that she

434
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: might have thought. You know, but what if? I mean,

435
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: you're going to actually prove that this baby was killed,

436
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 2: and you're going to try to prove who killed her.

437
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: You've got to put all that together. You arrive on

438
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: the scene or and you find the baby. What condition

439
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: was baby Evelyn when they found her? What are they

440
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: looking at? And what happened next? How did they uncover

441
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: what happened to baby Evelyn?

442
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you right up front, because I'm

443
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: sure a lot of people are wondering about this, the

444
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: status of her body. We're talking about East Tennessee and

445
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about where the last time Baby Evelyn is seen,

446
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: and this is per the babysitter. If you recall, which

447
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I know you do, was early December. I think it's

448
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: like the tenth or the eleventh. So if we track

449
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: back to there and we think about East Tennessee during

450
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the late fall, early winter months, and now we're all

451
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: the way to March of twenty twenty when her body

452
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: is first discovered. When her body is finally discovered back

453
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: there in that trash can, her body would not have

454
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: been as decomposed. Okay, perhaps if this had started in

455
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: May and gone on until August or September, but you're

456
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: going to be compromised relative to obvious signs of trauma.

457
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: And there were several things that arose at trial and

458
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: per the examination of the medical examiner in Baby Evelynce

459
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: case to try to come up with a cause of death.

460
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Now obviously both of them, because there's two medical examiners

461
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: that were actually consulted on this case. The conclusion was

462
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: that the manner of death is listed as a homicide.

463
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: That's pretty clear, you know, as far as the condition

464
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: of the body, the body being contained within a bag,

465
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: that goes to hiding of the body, and then sequestering

466
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: the body so that no one else would find it. Well,

467
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: that in and of itself gives you pause to note

468
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that this is probably homicidal violence. The trick though here,

469
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: and one of the things they're having to deal with, Dave,

470
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: is the factor of decomposition, the length of time that

471
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: has gone on. So they're having to come up with

472
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: the cause of death. Now, one of the forensic pathologists

473
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: in this case had actually opined that this could very

474
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: well have been a position asphyxia. Okay, and this is

475
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: the absolute horror of this. We have other evidence that

476
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: might kind of lean into this supposition, is that if

477
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: this is in fact positional asphixia, David, she was, she

478
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: was alive when she was put in there. She's alive

479
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: when she's put in there. Because if in order to

480
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: bring about the mechanism of death with positional asphixia, if

481
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: you're saying that that position is dictated by the garbage can,

482
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: that means contracted inside of a bag like this, okay,

483
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and I'm doing like almost a fetal position. That means

484
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: that baby can't move. That means that baby can't move,

485
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: can't get out. And if you've got all this other

486
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: crap that's piled in on top of it. That baby

487
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: is going to die in a position, and it becomes

488
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: very torturous now because you know that the medical examiner

489
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: is trying to understand two things here, How did this

490
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: mechanism work? Was she suffocated? And I think that probably,

491
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: as horrific as this is for me to say, okay,

492
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: I think that most of us could agree it would

493
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: be more merciful to have asphyxiated this child hand over

494
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: the mouth, bag over the head, whatever the case might

495
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: have been, and depriving her of oxygen in the immediate

496
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: as opposed to having her beneath piles of trash stuffed

497
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: down into a black garbage can you know, either way

498
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: you look at it, the the cause of death is horrific.

499
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: But in my estimation, Dave, the idea that the medical

500
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: examiner has even entertained as idea that the child would

501
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: have died as a result of positional asphyxia enters an

502
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: entirely new level of horror in this case because it shows, well,

503
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: first off, it shows a complete absence of basic humanity,

504
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, and we're talking about a child that came

505
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: from her mother. This is not a random child. Off

506
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: the street. This is a child that she had given

507
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: birth to, a child that to certain degree she had

508
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: kept alive at least for thirteen months. That it's possible

509
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: that she could have done this. And I don't have

510
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: time for people that say, well, you don't understand she's

511
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: in a mental state that would have affected her judgment,

512
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: or she's too young to understand the the world.

513
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: No, she's not.

514
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: She knows what basic needs are that are that you

515
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: have to have in order to sustain to sustain a child.

516
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: You know, even even even the most simple animals in

517
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: the animal kingdom have this basic understanding. So this goes

518
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: to a higher level of terror here. And this is

519
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: what it would have been because an individual that dies

520
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: as a result of positional asphixia experiences terror. See, there's

521
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: an awareness to it, Dave. That's the thing about it.

522
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: If you're dying of positional asphixia, unless you are unconscious.

523
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: And I've had people that are drug odes that have

524
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: died of positional asphixia and they didn't have an awareness

525
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: because they were so sedated by the drugs they were on.

526
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: But we're talking about something else here entirely, Dave.

527
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Well Okay, let me ask you about this, Joe, because

528
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: what we have, according to testimony, that Evelyn's body showed

529
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: active decomposition occurring in a confined space. And this is

530
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: what was said in the actual testimony. Yes, that Evelyn's

531
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: body had been unnaturally folded and her body had been

532
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: wrapped so tightly that her facial features flattened.

533
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Yes.

534
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what in the world evil exists that could

535
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: even Yeah?

536
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what that means is it's kind of fascinating

537
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: from a scientific perspective when when bodies are and I've

538
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: seen it with fresh debt as well, but with with

539
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: decomposing bodies in particular, the skin becomes it loses its uh,

540
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: its natural elasticity, you know where like if you pinch

541
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: your cheek right now, pull it, pull it out and

542
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: let go, it's going to pop back and there's not

543
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna be an evidence like where you're you're unless you

544
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: just have no collagen in your skin where you know

545
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: you had pinched your skin and it leaves creases there.

546
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: The as a result of decompositional changes, in particular when

547
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: you sow wrap, say for instance, or pressed down into

548
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: a position, let's say face down. I've seen, the nose

549
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: actually looks like silly putty. It it does not pop back,

550
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: It just kind of flattens out like this. So when

551
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: you've got a child, child's remains rather that have been

552
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: so contracted like this over a period of time, and

553
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: again having not been there to judge what they're saying

554
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: about the tight wrappings they should be on tar get here,

555
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: the face would have been so compressed that the skin

556
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: would not have popped back, So the face would have

557
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: this appearance of something that was created in a nightmare

558
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: scenario that someone had rendered up you know, some horror

559
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: writer had rendered up onto a page or you know,

560
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: an illustration of some kind that would have made her

561
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: look absolutely monstrous.

562
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: But you know.

563
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: That aside, when you begin to think about these wrappings,

564
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: and again this can go to positional asphyxia because you

565
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: can have individuals that are wrapped Okay, and I've seen

566
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: this in an autoerotic case actually before, where an individual

567
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: had wrapped themselves up in a carpet of all things,

568
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: while in a scuba suit. We'll talk about that another day.

569
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: The skin will become very modeled, it will become formed

570
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: to whatever it is that is creating this compression on

571
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: the outer surface of the skin and whatever the face

572
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: is resting upon, so the child's in a compressed, contracted position.

573
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: This could mean that not only is she in a

574
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: positional asphyxia scenario where she would die of oxygen deprivation,

575
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: but another issue that could have killed her is the

576
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: fact that she's tightly constricted with these wrappings. That may

577
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: have led to this idea of assexia, suffocation, this sort

578
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: of thing.

579
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: What about the others, What about ten foyle being wrapped

580
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: around her? Joe I saw that, and I'm like, what

581
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: in the world.

582
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't I've never I have never encountered this in

583
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: all of my years of covering cases. You know, we

584
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: use tenfoil for obviously, for a variety of things, and

585
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about it. I mean, Kim

586
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: and I still use tenfoil to you know, put them,

587
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, to wrap them things we're gonna throw in

588
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: a refrigerator or even even in the freezer sometimes. But

589
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: it's almost like a layering is taking place. I think

590
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: one of the toughest things for me to swallow and

591
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: to kind of wrap my brain around.

592
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: Dave.

593
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: And again this goes to what we were talking about earlier.

594
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Was she alive when she went in there? Well, Dave,

595
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: they they recovered latent prints on the surface of this

596
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: tinfoil and tinfoil you would think that it would be

597
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: very easy to recover latent prints. Whoever did this recovery

598
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: did a jam up job, because you know, once you

599
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: once you break tenfoil off of off of the roll, okay,

600
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: it's it ceases to be pristine any longer because all

601
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: you have to do is just slightly move it and

602
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: it's going to create all these little creases and crevices

603
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: and it will be even if you try to smooth

604
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: it out, you'll never get it back to the way

605
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: it was, you know, when it was on the pristine roll.

606
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: But back to what I was saying, Dave, they recovered

607
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: latent prints off of this tinfoil. And not only was

608
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: Baby Evelyn's mother's Layton Prince found on the surface of

609
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: the tinfoil, Baby Evelyn's prints were found on the tinfoil.

610
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: So what does that say, Well, either she was playing

611
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: with the tinfoil in life, or she was fighting against

612
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: having this placed upon her and she's touching it with

613
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: her unsecured hands and leaving it on the surface of

614
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: the tinfoil. Many years ago, I went to a conference,

615
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: and forgive me if I've mentioned this before, but it

616
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: was one of the most horrible things I'd ever heard

617
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: relative to the prince of children. And it had to

618
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: do with the Oklahoma City bombing and the crime scene

619
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: investigator that was doing the prints off of the You

620
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: remember the kindergarten that got destroyed at the Murrow building.

621
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Their children have no fingerprints on file, so he had

622
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: to go back to the homes of the children that

623
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: were in the nursery and he started weeping on stage.

624
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: And this guy, I believe he worked for the FBI,

625
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: he was on the evidence response team. He began weeping

626
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: on stage and he said it was the toughest thinging

627
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: he'd ever had to do. He went to their homes

628
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: and dusted for latent prints on their toys and their

629
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: cribs in order to compare prints. I'd never heard anything

630
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: like it. So the only way that they could have

631
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: done this with baby Evelyn was they recover the unknown

632
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: print off of the tinfoil and then she's keep in

633
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: mind her body's decomposing. They would have to go to

634
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: special links in order to lift a print off of

635
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: her body because her hands would have been decomposed, so

636
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: they would have had to have rehydrated the fingertips. There's

637
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: any number of methods that I will not get into

638
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: on this episode that we do that with, and then

639
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: they would have compared the prints. You know, it's one

640
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: thing to have mom's prints. You can roll her prints

641
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: when she's hooked up on charges. You got her print

642
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: captured and you can identify that. But you know, for me, Dave,

643
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: that's that was to me, that's it's almost like the

644
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: child in depth of sending a message, you know, to

645
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: all of us that are viewing this case and trying

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Speaker 1: to understand actually what happened to her.

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Speaker 2: Dave, you know, this happened December twenty nineteen, last time

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Speaker 2: baby with Evelyn alive, February reported missing, March, they recover

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Speaker 2: the body, and now here we are five years down

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Speaker 2: in range and we finally do have Megan Boswell, the

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Speaker 2: biological mother of Evelyn, standing trial or her murder. See

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Speaker 2: end result of what Megan Boswill. After all the lies

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Speaker 2: that she told along the way, she eventually said that

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Speaker 2: Evelyn was sleeping with her, with Megan and her boyfriend

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Speaker 2: and somehow she was smothered in the night and that's

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Speaker 2: how she died. Now, that was her story that she

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Speaker 2: was finally sticking to when they went to trial. And

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned already, this case has been adjudicated, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: and Joe the I don't know if you can ever

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Speaker 2: sentence somebody properly, you know, for something of this magnitude,

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Speaker 2: because it is just so horrific. When I got to

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Speaker 2: the description of the TBI investigator about how her body

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Speaker 2: was found and the things you've explained today, there's no

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Speaker 2: way you can look at this and not see the

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Speaker 2: evil that exists.

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Speaker 1: This is you can, You truly can, Dave. It's a

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Speaker 1: glimpse behind the scenes. But I urge everyone out there

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Speaker 1: there are people all over this country, all over our

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Speaker 1: blessed country, that don't have children, that would love to

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Speaker 1: have a child. I don't understand this never. I've never

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Speaker 1: understood it as an investigator. I've never understood it as

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Speaker 1: college professor, and I certainly never understood it by virtue

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Speaker 1: of these cases that Dave McK and I cover, it's

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Speaker 1: impossible to make sense of why someone would destroy a

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Speaker 1: little angel like this. And unfortunately, I know that there

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Speaker 1: will be other cases that we will cover that will

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Speaker 1: not necessarily be dissimilar to Baby Evelyn and Harmony Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: Evil is real, folks. Evil is real. I'm Joseph Scott

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Speaker 1: Morgan and this is bodybacks

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Speaker 3: Mm hm