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Speaker 1: The first game, the ALCS Game two matchup between the

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Speaker 1: non postseason news, breaking news. But KP is a manager job.

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Speaker 1: Not sexy anymore. Like a third of the league is open.

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Speaker 2: It's a very dangerous job. I think it's still sexy,

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Speaker 2: but it seems like you got to win right now

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Speaker 2: or there's no lead up to it. There's no build up.

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Speaker 2: It's win now or get fired. Kay.

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably lost a little bit of luster

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Speaker 3: because of the fact that you're just basically a puppet

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Speaker 3: and you're told what to do, and when it doesn't

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Speaker 3: go well, they cut the strings out.

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Speaker 1: See Uh, okay, then it is less sexy. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Lost some luster. It's still sexy. I mean it's still

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Speaker 3: sexy for maybe you've never had it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe if you're a guy that doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: get the strings pulled, it's a win now situation. But

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Speaker 2: if you're a little bit more willing to get your

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into this breaking news, and I

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Speaker 1: But let's hit it charging about charging the mound with

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Speaker 1: the breaking news that Mike Shilt is retired from his

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Speaker 1: position as manager of the San Diego Padres said two

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Speaker 1: successful seasons in the regular season, ninety plus wins, playoff appearances.

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Speaker 1: Padres bounce in the wild card round this time around.

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Speaker 1: But I think that most people expected him to return. KP.

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Speaker 1: You see this and you think, what, well.

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Speaker 2: Here retired and is it like retired in quotations or

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Speaker 2: did he really retire? I need a little bit more information.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we do have a board we can read really

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Speaker 1: quick and then we will talk to Kevin A. C.

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Speaker 1: From the San Diego Union Tribune. We do have a

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Speaker 1: quote board with a little bit more info from Mike

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Speaker 1: schlt on why he did what he did. He said

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Speaker 1: it is a decision that I thought about during the

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Speaker 1: season and became at peace with over the last ten days.

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Speaker 1: I gave every fiber of my being to help achieve

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Speaker 1: Peter Sidler's vision of bringing the World Series Championship to

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Speaker 1: I am proud of with the player staff in organization,

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Speaker 1: we're able to accomplish the last two seasons, the grind

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Speaker 1: me mentally, physically, and emotionally. While has always been about

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Speaker 1: serving others, it's time I take care of myself and

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Speaker 1: exit on my terms. Kevin, a c from the San

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Speaker 1: us right now on FT. Kevin, we appreciate the quick

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Speaker 4: Be careful how I how I answer that I wasn't

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Speaker 4: entirely shocked. Look, there's always many layers to a story,

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Speaker 4: but I want to make sure that I make it

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Speaker 5: The things that Mike said.

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Speaker 4: He seemed weary. He seemed I don't know if burnt

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Speaker 4: now it certainly makes sense. It's a demanding job. I

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Speaker 4: have never covered a baseball manager who lives every single

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Speaker 4: saying that it's not demanding to work in any organization

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure, and so I want to

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is obviously very fresh news for everybody.

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Speaker 4: I think Mike put everything he had into it, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's it right. Like, there's many

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Speaker 4: But I I always hesitate because I know what the

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Speaker 4: certain way. And Mike Schild came into this job with

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Speaker 5: So I really do.

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Speaker 4: Think, like again, it struck me from the start, and

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Speaker 4: who has to live one game a year or a week.

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Speaker 4: Mike lives and just give gives everything every single game,

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Speaker 4: Mike is single, Mike doesn't have children, Mike lives baseball,

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Speaker 4: and I am convinced I think he's a good man

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Speaker 5: Work on his well being.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was going to kind of lead into my question.

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Speaker 2: He talks about his physical emotion just to confirm he

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Speaker 2: This is kind of a preemptive so he doesn't kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he volunteered that to me, like when he talked

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Speaker 4: addition to the letter that he sent, and he made

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Speaker 4: sure that I understood that there was no pressing, serious

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Speaker 4: health issue. But I think all of us who put

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Speaker 5: Health, lack of sleep.

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Speaker 4: And I think that Mike's you know, season and a

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Speaker 4: manager's job is twelve months a year. It's not like

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Speaker 4: But during that those those eight months, it was sleep work,

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Speaker 4: think that Mike was ready to take at least. Look,

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Speaker 4: we all know what retire means a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: Mike's fifty six years old, hopefully a long life ahead

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Speaker 6: He was.

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Speaker 4: I do believe whatever else came into play, Mike Shult

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Speaker 3: Do you get any player reactions early this quick from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I've had some text with players. I don't

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Speaker 2: All right, what's next? Where do they go? And a

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have talked about it, and it's

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Speaker 5: Look, I know the Padre is better than anyone. I

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Speaker 4: I think there's a good core coming back, and I

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Speaker 4: I think it's a really good job. Internally, you have

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Speaker 3: Is that the is that the ilk that you would

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Speaker 3: when you say Albert Pool host no experience, really uncertain,

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Speaker 4: Here's one thing I know covering AJ Preller is I

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Speaker 4: Like he hired Jace Kindler, who I believe could be

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Speaker 5: Then he hired Bob Melvin, who everyone.

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Speaker 4: Was like, oh man, Bob Melvin is the best, and

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Speaker 4: And one thing I want to make clear that a

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Speaker 5: AJ is relentless in his work.

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Speaker 4: He is and he's even involved there also, But he

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting question for you going back the narratives. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the last one for me. I think

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Speaker 3: I hope they're doing their due diligence. I hope they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know that Arti Marino likes names KP.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he goes after big names all the time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it. I mean, you know, talking to

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Speaker 2: But they need to kind of change the narrative there.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Hey, we're here for two minutes to scrutinize the

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Speaker 1: We will start with the ugly, and some of this

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to fix all the misses. So You've

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Speaker 1: the way that umpires have performed thus far, we have

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Speaker 1: Alan Porter, right, guys, he had a standout performance and

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Speaker 5: And it's all different arms.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he saw like four pitchers on each

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of hoping I see him in the World

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Speaker 3: and for him to he's always been he's always been

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Speaker 5: But that was a good game, KP.

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the Blue Jays and the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was texting both of the voices

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Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays last night before the game, and

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Speaker 2: I was telling them that was the one game I

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Speaker 3: This is why the game of baseball is so fun,

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Speaker 1: Okay, KP A couple questions. First off, I'm a little

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Speaker 2: four hitters in the game were like the hardest four

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Speaker 2: exit vilows of the game. Obviously, Springer hit the first

436
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Speaker 2: pitch out, but that's the way they've been playing all year.

437
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Speaker 2: I don't expect them to change. And having the ability

438
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Speaker 2: over the last series to be a Blue Jays media

439
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Speaker 2: member being down on the field, being able to talk

440
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Speaker 2: to the hitting of coaches about their approach. That's their

441
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Speaker 2: big approach is they want guys to be aggressive if

442
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Speaker 2: they're getting their pitch in their zone, and last night

443
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Speaker 2: was no different. Sometimes you just got to tip your

444
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Speaker 2: hat to a pitcher. The guy on the mound is elite,

445
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Speaker 2: but they play the law of averages. The more times

446
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Speaker 2: you put a ball in play, the greater chances you

447
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Speaker 2: have to get a hit. And that's not just individually,

448
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: that's collectively as a team. As long as they're not

449
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Speaker 2: striking out and they're continuing to move the ball forward,

450
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Speaker 2: they're going to be in great shape.

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Speaker 1: The other question I have for you is management of

452
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Speaker 1: when to remove a starting pitcher. I felt okay, but

453
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Speaker 1: then I looked online and it was a cesspool of

454
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Speaker 1: why did you remove Kevin Gossman that soon? Did you

455
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Speaker 1: feel that way and do you think that will impact

456
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Speaker 1: this series here. I mean that because the Blue Jays

457
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Speaker 1: bullpen is solid, I wouldn't say incredible, and Kevin Gossman

458
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Speaker 1: is their top starter. Tray Savage obviously should look good.

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Speaker 1: He looked amazing in his first start for them in

460
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Speaker 1: the Alds. Do you think there's any concerns that the

461
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays removed their starters too early as they have

462
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Speaker 1: PTSD from the Jose Barrios situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think that's what it all kind of

464
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Speaker 2: stems from. I'm a little hyper sensitive in answering this

465
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Speaker 2: question because I was just there a week ago and

466
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Speaker 2: I had a lot of these conversations with John Snyder,

467
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Speaker 2: and he was very open in his media conferences with

468
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Speaker 2: the media members about his evolution of being a manager,

469
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Speaker 2: and he admits that, you know, he was a little

470
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Speaker 2: bit more of a yes man and he got a

471
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Speaker 2: little bit more comfortable in his skin where he feels

472
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Speaker 2: like he is going to make the right decision for

473
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Speaker 2: his ball club, whether it goes against the grain of

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Speaker 2: what the front office or analytics believe. So I have

475
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Speaker 2: to trust that maybe there was something about Gosman, maybe

476
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Speaker 2: the way his stuff was looking, or him being a

477
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Speaker 2: little bit fatigued. You have to remember we're you know,

478
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Speaker 2: we're deep into the season. He's throwing a lot of innings.

479
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Speaker 2: He maybe he's a little bit more hyper sensitive about,

480
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Speaker 2: you know, him getting his pitch count up, him gonna

481
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Speaker 2: need Cosmon to pitch again later in probably Game five.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of decisions that you know, when

483
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting up in the press box, the game moves

484
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Speaker 2: really slow, and I remember how fast it was as

485
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Speaker 2: a player, and it's hard for me to ever kind

486
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Speaker 2: of even think about how fast it moves as a manager.

487
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Speaker 2: But I gotta believe John Snyder because there was moves

488
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Speaker 2: he made in that Yankee series that went really far

489
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Speaker 2: against the grain and you could see his evolution of

490
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Speaker 2: a manager and being like, I'm going to live and

491
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Speaker 2: die with this decision, whether people are going to agree

492
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Speaker 2: with it or not. So it's easy for me to

493
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Speaker 2: sit up in my booth and say, yeah, they should

494
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Speaker 2: have left him in there. That's your ace. But I

495
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Speaker 2: think he had some internal information that was probably telling

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Speaker 2: him it was time to get him out of the game.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's at that pitch count. I mean, I'm

498
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Speaker 3: looking back at his last three starts, one against the

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Speaker 3: Yankees seventy five pitches last night, seventy six and when

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Speaker 3: he came out of the game, like, yes, I get it.

501
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Speaker 3: Had he not walked Julio, does he give him the

502
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Speaker 3: start of the sixth inning? In my opinion, yes, But

503
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Speaker 3: as a manager, you have to make those decisions. Some

504
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Speaker 3: of those decisions are thought about before the game, but

505
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Speaker 3: then you're visualizing. You're seeing what it looks like. Maybe

506
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Speaker 3: at seventy pitches, Hey, you know what, let's start using

507
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Speaker 3: our eye and see what that ball is looking like?

508
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Speaker 3: Is he missing armside? The ball four to Julio Rondriguez

509
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Speaker 3: was a fastball left in? Does that mean it looks

510
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Speaker 3: like you know, his arm slots going down. Pete Walker

511
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Speaker 3: has been there for a long time. I know, I

512
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Speaker 3: know Schnein's and Pete are in lockstep and they feed

513
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Speaker 3: off of each other. So you're constantly getting information that

514
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Speaker 3: we don't necessarily have.

515
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Speaker 1: That's it this week's Arena Club slab Pack poll. We

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Speaker 1: opened a ruby. We went big.

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Speaker 2: They're doing that.

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Speaker 6: You know what? The nerves got me. I think it

519
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Speaker 6: was so exciting because the motion it waits about four

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521
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523
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Speaker 6: I thought it was great. Guess what I sold it back? Yep,

524
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Speaker 6: and I got a little more money and now I

525
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Speaker 6: can go buy another one. They have to wait a

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Speaker 6: couple of minutes afterwards. And this is the excitemental whole thing.

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Speaker 1: You can see that big smile on todd Father's face.

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Speaker 1: Lazarro Montes, who's supposed to be good. He's Baseball America

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Speaker 1: Top three, he's in the Mariners organization. But Todd Father

532
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Speaker 1: sometimes thinks prospects or suspects going back to the well

533
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Speaker 1: and we'll see what he gets next time. Use the

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535
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Speaker 1: off your first card purchase. Okay, so you guys were

538
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Speaker 1: okay with it. At seventy six pitches, top of the

539
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Speaker 1: sixth inning to a one one game, he had just.

540
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Speaker 2: Crats his point to crats his point. I think he

541
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Speaker 2: even talked about that too, Like not every team has

542
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: a script, but they have an idea of how they

543
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: want to manage these games. And I think they get

544
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Speaker 2: to that certain pitch point, like he said, maybe it's

545
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: that seventy pitch mark, and then the eyeball test starts

546
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Speaker 2: to take over. And I think they did a good

547
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Speaker 2: job of that. And you know, as for as much

548
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Speaker 2: as he got criticized a couple of years ago with

549
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Speaker 2: the Bear Cacuchi situation, like I said, there was moments

550
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: in that Yankee series where I'm like, Okay, maybe they

551
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: should go get him. They should go oh my god,

552
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: they're leaving him at Okay, at work. And then you

553
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: think about what they did in Game four. He had

554
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: to thread this needle that was so incredibly difficult to do.

555
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: Like you said, they don't have the most lockdown bullpen,

556
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: but the way they were able to kind of navigate

557
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: nine entire innings with just bullpen arms and really maximize

558
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 2: everyone's strengths, it's hard. It's hard to go against what

559
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: he was doing. You know, I think, like you said,

560
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: they're in lockstep. I don't think it's just a John

561
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: Snyder decision. I think Pete Walker has the respect of

562
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: that organization, the respect of his starting pitchers in all

563
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: of his pictures, and he has the respect of his managers.

564
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Speaker 2: So I think that was a collective decision.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I thought it was funny. Bryce Miller

566
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Speaker 1: thought he was going to be removed from the game

567
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Speaker 1: in the bottom of the sixth after a fourth pitch

568
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: to outwalk to Addison Barger, and they were money. Fox

569
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Speaker 1: was on it. He was like, no, no, no, no,

570
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: it's Pete Wildworth. Okay, I can talk him into staying

571
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Speaker 1: in the game. It was great, and then he got

572
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: one more fly ball out and then they moved on.

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Speaker 1: So I know you appreciate that. Crats we don't. We

574
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Speaker 1: don't catch that often. Like it was very it was

575
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Speaker 1: very genuine and wholesome, where it's just like no, no, no,

576
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Speaker 1: I'm still feeling good.

577
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: But what did he just do? He just walked a

578
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Speaker 3: guy on four pitches, Like he's sitting there going I

579
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Speaker 3: forget who he walked, but he's sitting there.

580
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Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, no, no, Barger.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. Like Barger's Barger's looking to swing.

582
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Speaker 3: If you walk anybody on this team and four pitches

583
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: is probably Vladdie. But everybody else they got a bat,

584
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: have have bat, will swing is there is their motto,

585
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Speaker 3: and you know, so he knows, he knows. Also he

586
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: can't let Barger beat him. So there's times when the

587
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: pitcher and the catcher, But in this case, the pitcher's like,

588
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Speaker 3: it's okay if this guy doesn't get a pitch to hit,

589
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: because I know I can get the next guy who's

590
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Speaker 3: a righty up. You know. So it's it's one of

591
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: those things that on the field, you always think you're

592
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: going to get the next out. In the dugout, you

593
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Speaker 3: got to know these guys and you're you're one hundred

594
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: and seventy games into the season now, so you better

595
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: understand exactly what everybody's putting out on each given night.

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Speaker 1: KP, Well, I have two for you. I'll see if

597
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Speaker 1: I can get at least one, maybe the second one

598
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Speaker 1: in there roof open, roof closed? How much do things

599
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Speaker 1: change there roof is closed for game one? I'm sure

600
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Speaker 1: it's louder when the roof is closed, But how does

601
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Speaker 1: the game change with the roof open, specifically in Toronto.

602
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, typically, obviously a little bit louder with the roof closed.

603
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: The ball tends to fly a little bit more with

604
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Speaker 2: the roof open, but I do expect a little bit

605
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Speaker 2: more of a home field advantage, not from the noise standspoint,

606
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Speaker 2: but the time of the game. With the roof being open,

607
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Speaker 2: there is some shadows that will affect both the hitters

608
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Speaker 2: and also the outfielders. That's something to kind of take

609
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Speaker 2: a look at today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And last one, how much did you use that

611
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Speaker 1: Traject machine and how much does it factory in for

612
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Speaker 1: someone like Trey Savage when most of the league hasn't

613
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Speaker 1: seen him and the Yankees didn't have that.

614
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Traject is going to love me for this.

615
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: It's not gonna help with Tray Savage because his release

616
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: point is so unique. Traject is going to have to

617
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Speaker 2: make a bigger version of the Traject and it's already

618
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Speaker 2: pretty large, but they're gonna have to make a bigger

619
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Speaker 2: version for a release point that high. Because I had

620
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Speaker 2: talked about this in the pregame show, I used Traject

621
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Speaker 2: for like a whole week leading up to facing Garrett

622
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Speaker 2: Crochet on Opening Day. I knew I was playing. I

623
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Speaker 2: knew I was facing him, and his release point was

624
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Speaker 2: so unique that you couldn't get the whole body and

625
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Speaker 2: their release point on there. I could still see the stuff,

626
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Speaker 2: but there's something to be said about a guy that's

627
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Speaker 2: that unique. I need to get in the box and

628
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Speaker 2: see him. And I think Seattle is going to be

629
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Speaker 2: in a little bit of trouble, much like the Yankees

630
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Speaker 2: or facing a guy that they've never seen. You can

631
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Speaker 2: do all your homework, you can watch a guy, you

632
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Speaker 2: can look at his X and Y spreadsheet, you can

633
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Speaker 2: look at all the analytics. You can pick up the

634
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Speaker 2: phone and call judge and be like what it looked like,

635
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Speaker 2: But until you're standing in that box, you ain't seen

636
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Speaker 2: anything like this. Traject would help a little bit in

637
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Speaker 2: terms of the movement of the pitches, but finding the

638
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: release point and stuff is going to be very challenging

639
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: for these guys.

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Speaker 1: That is the analysis right there.

641
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Speaker 3: Traject is going to really struggle because his slider actually

642
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: goes backwards. So trajects like put in the computer what

643
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Speaker 3: like it's supposed to go slider's supposed to go that way,

644
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Speaker 3: and his actually goes like this, like it's almost it's

645
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Speaker 3: not even straight down, it's the other way. So traject's

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Speaker 3: are going to be like, cannot compute more data.

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Speaker 1: Fake slider, fake slider.

648
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Speaker 3: Alert left hand left handed slider.

649
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Speaker 1: Yep, but we'll see. Well, I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I could do two hours on this, but we have

652
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Speaker 1: two minutes. You guys were talking about how the Angels

653
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: need to catch up to the rest of the league

654
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: for the past couple decades. How about air conditioning in

655
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: the weight room? KP. You were there more recently than Kratz.

656
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Is this true? You say? Kokuchi told Japanese reporters after

657
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: his last start he exited due to cramping because the

658
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: weight room has no AC. He always has his warm

659
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: up drenched in sweat. He wanted them to fix it.

660
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Team Never did.

661
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: I believe it. I was there. I mean the AC

662
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: was working there, but the inner workings of like the clubhouse,

663
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: the weight room, the hot hot tub always had problems too.

664
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: They definitely need to already definitely needs to spend some

665
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: money and fix that internal workings at the clubhouse, the

666
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: weight room, the locker room. I mean, it's a big

667
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: selling point to get players, and the Angels is very,

668
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: very far behind from a lot of places I've been.

669
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: This is a problem for literal decades in our game,

670
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: and some fans online like tell him to fix it. No, no, no, no,

671
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: it's a multi billion dollar corporation, they fix it. And

672
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: also it's air conditioning. He's not asking for a new ballpark. Grats.

673
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: We see these stories off with them, and that's why

674
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: people are like, what's wrong, I don't get it or whatever.

675
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: It's just a seat. No, everybody else gets something, and

676
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: then the Angels act like a third world country with

677
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: amenities that should be a given. In twenty twenty five.

678
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 5: There is so much.

679
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: I was just talking to my kids about the fact

680
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: that when I first made it to the big leagues

681
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: and I played against the Red Sox, we had to

682
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: walk across the street to work out. We had to

683
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: walk across Waveland to work out. Like, organizations have been behind,

684
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: but you can't continue to be behind if you want

685
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: to be a Marquee World Series winning organization. And he

686
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: spends on his payroll, maybe not correctly spend on at all.

687
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: KP right to you about Trey Savage opening up his

688
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: press conference with a statement, he said, it's sad to

689
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: see that people close to me are being attacked for

690
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: my performances on the fields. He just wanted to stand

691
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: out for the online trolls. We're at an all time high.

692
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it gets worse by the KP. So I

693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: don't really know what you can do besides telling everybody

694
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: to just get off social media. And it sucks that

695
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: you have to do that, but I don't think it's

696
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: going to stop anytime soon. People are ridiculous.

697
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not going to stop. Good for him, for

698
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: you know, understanding, he has a platform, you know, biggest stage,

699
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: microphone in front of him to kind of just go

700
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: out and address it. Is it going to change anything?

701
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Sadly no, but the worst is still yet to come.

702
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: And I hate to say that because he's talking about

703
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: the negative effect that his family's received and he threw

704
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: well just imagine if he doesn't pitch well, you know

705
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: the type of kind of you know, things that are

706
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: going to happen to him and his family. But it's

707
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: a really sad reality we live in where everyone has

708
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: so much access to not only you as the player,

709
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: but our information is public. Everyone knows you know, my

710
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: wife's name, my kid's name, my family members. They're all

711
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: easy to find on social media too. So this is

712
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: kind of a learning moment, not only for him but

713
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: his entire family as he's entering this arena of you know,

714
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: being an elite pitcher and pitching in the major leagues.

715
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: This is the negative. This is the negative effect of

716
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: being a major league baseball player. Ninety nine percent of

717
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: it's great. This is the one percent that you just

718
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: kind of have to deal with not only you, but

719
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: your family and your loved ones.

720
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: Have you guys been seeing Pat Murphy really throughout the

721
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: entire postseason put on a show with his quotes, like

722
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: he's quoting Shakespeare also KP. He does this thing where

723
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: he has anyone new to the media conference, the press

724
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: conference introduced themselves. So like a day or two ago,

725
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: he had the Japanese media do it for the first

726
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: time and there since there's so many of them for

727
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: more for the Dodger side, so we had twenty five

728
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: Japanese reporters stand up and introduce themselves. So people say,

729
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: when Pat Murphy comes in for his daily chat with

730
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: the press, brace yourselves. It's going to be a while.

731
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, he waited a lifetime to

732
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: be a manager. He's a very successful manager. He's authentic,

733
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: he makes it fun. I got out of him pulling

734
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: out his his file of papers against all the matchup

735
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: against the Dodgers, and he was just kind of reading

736
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: out random lineups and having the media members guess what

737
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: year it was from. But I love that he's authentic,

738
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: he's himself, he's real, he's fun. You know. Sometimes you

739
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: and I'm experiencing it for the first time as a

740
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: media member, But I go into those media rooms and

741
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: it always feels kind of stuffy, and everyone's kind of

742
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: walking on eggs shells. No one wants to ask an

743
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: embarrassing question. The answers you're getting, typically from the players

744
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: are very buttoned up. So he just makes it fun.

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,360
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Speaker 1: hit our NLCS preview. It's the Brewers matching up with

763
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. There is a massive payroll disparity. You can

764
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: do all kinds of stats to show the differences between

765
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: these two teams. Blake Snell alone is making more than

766
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the rest of their rotation. So Kratz, I'll start with this.

767
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Blake Snell, when asked about the Brewers, said quote, I'm

768
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: not falling for the average Joe's They're not They got

769
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: the best record in baseball. They're a really good team.

770
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Do you like this answer. It's almost like reversing the

771
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: psychology back, like we hear your underdog story and we

772
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: don't buy it. We are treating you like a real threat.

773
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how baseball players think. Nobody goes into

774
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: a series and is like, oh man, these guys, how

775
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: could they all have been dfaed in their entire bullpen?

776
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: Like save it. It's like it's like the whole underdog story,

777
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: like if you promote it as a team, like yeah,

778
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: we're just underdog. We just we've never had any breaks.

779
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: It's like, wait a minute, Like there's a bunch of

780
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: like first rounders on this team. There's a bunch of

781
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: dudes that are really good. Freddy Peralt is probably gonna

782
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: be top three, if not definitely the top five, and

783
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: the Cy Young voting like they're a good team. They

784
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: had the most wins. The Dodgers played the exact same

785
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: teams that they played now, not as many in the Central,

786
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: but they played the exact same teams and they did

787
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: not have a better record than the Brewers. So like

788
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: the underdog story, the average Joe's calls himself the above

789
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: average Joe's, I think is what Pat Murphy called them.

790
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: But it's that like you can't as a as a opponent,

791
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: No you're not, You're not falling for that. The Okie Doke.

792
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: And the mind stars one oh four KP that doesn't

793
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: sound like an average joe to me.

794
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 2: Apparently gets I want to try to make a try.

795
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I want to try to make a very like a

796
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: sloppy sentence here, because that's what it feels like. The

797
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: underdog's the favorite, the favorites, the underdog, the the the

798
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: Joe's versus the pro like who even knows. It's just

799
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: it's a fun storyline because maybe the betting favorite is

800
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: maybe the Dodgers, but the other team at the best record,

801
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: they're calling themselves the average Joe's. The Dodgers are the

802
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: super team, but you know they're playing on the road.

803
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: It just makes for great theater, But none of the

804
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: players are really buying into it, because when the first

805
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: pitch happens, they're just trying to beat each other up.

806
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Here's what stands out to me, Kratz. These two teams

807
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: are incredibly different in every way. It's not just that

808
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: the Dodgers spend a ton and the Brewers obviously don't.

809
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: They're the smallest TV market in the sport. The Brewers

810
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: make more contact, the Dodgers have more pop. The Dodgers

811
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: have the traditional starting rotation lined up like this. The

812
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Brewers were going bullpen game. In Game two, you'll see

813
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: bullpen games, I'm sure plenty in this series. They're going

814
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: to do that all the way until they get knocked out.

815
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say the traditional relievers setup for

816
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: the Brewers is in better shape than the Dodgers. The

817
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Dodgers have had to get creative so far in this

818
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: postseason and probably will have to continue to do so.

819
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: There are countless differences. These two teams look nothing alike.

820
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: So why are we even playing the game? Why don't

821
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: we just have it? Why don't we have a salary

822
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: cap that will just allow everybody to spend the same

823
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: amount so that all the teams can look exactly the same. No, No,

824
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: you build your team differently. I'm sure there are things

825
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: or players that the Dodgers be Like, we would love

826
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: to have a young Jackson Curio in our outfield. We

827
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: would love to not have to spend on this guy

828
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: because we could have that guy. Like this is the

829
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: name of the game, Like you both made it to

830
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: this point. One team that is the underdog, that is

831
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: the that is the not the betting money, is the

832
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: team that won more games. So if you're the Brewers,

833
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: you can't say, wow, we're just neat neat grand happy

834
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: for being here. And if you're the if you're the Dodgers,

835
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: you can't say, oh man, we're gonna walk all over

836
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: these nerves because they have no shot because their TV

837
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: market is smaller. No, it's about who comes out executes

838
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: in each situation will move on. Whoever wins four games

839
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: before the other one does will move on. And it's

840
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: going to be about execution, pitchers making their pitches, not

841
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: about the size of their wallets.

842
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see the regular season series? And

843
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I know it's not the biggest factor in the world,

844
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: but the Brewers took all six games.

845
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think it's real. I mean, I

846
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: know the playoffs and the regular season are different, but

847
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: when you are quote unquote this underdog and you're going

848
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: up against the big bad wolf, you've got to have

849
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: this internal belief that you can beat the team, and

850
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: the fact that you swept them tells you that regardless

851
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: of what anyone else thinks about us outside of this room,

852
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: we know and we've proved that we could beat them,

853
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: and we actually haven't even lost to them this year,

854
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 2: So they do believe that they are the better team

855
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: going in. They can play the media game, the narrative

856
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, but inside those clubhouse walls, there's

857
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: not a single person that does not believe that the

858
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: Brewers are better than Dodgers, and they proved it in

859
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: the regular season. But that being said, you throw all

860
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: that out the window. It's the playoffs. You don't accidentally

861
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: wake up in the AL or NLCS. Both of these

862
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: teams deserve to be here. And like Cratty said, you know,

863
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: if you wanted to build every team the same, put

864
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: a salary cap in if you thought something would happen,

865
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: play the game in a simulator. But that's not how

866
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: baseball works. We're going to find out here at a

867
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: few short hours. Who's going to be a better team,

868
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: who's going to win a series?

869
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, let's get to some decision making in this series.

870
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean with the Brewers, it's a cavalcade of how

871
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: they're lining up pitching. It's almost too complicated to get

872
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: into with just a few minutes to go. I think

873
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: the Dodgers side is simpler. And we did get news,

874
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: of course that Snell starting Game one, Yamamotos starting Game two.

875
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: They wouldn't commit to when Otani would pitch in this series,

876
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: but they did say at some point he's going to

877
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: pitch in this series. Dave Roberts was asked if offense

878
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: from Shohay in the last round was a concerned Remember

879
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: the first time show he is ever pitching in a

880
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: postseason and it hasn't affected him often in the past

881
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: in the regular season. But this is a different battle

882
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: when we're talking about October baseball. They pointed more to

883
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: the fact that they would have Stellan Yamamoto lined up

884
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: normally and then later on in the series as well.

885
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: It sounds like maybe Otani only gets one start in

886
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: a best of seven kp Do you like the way

887
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: that this is lining up for the Dodgers.

888
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Once again, every roster is created differently, but the luxury

889
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: the Dodgers have is they have an abundance of starting pitching.

890
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: This is what makes sense for them. It makes a

891
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: lot of sense too because show, hey, win producing is

892
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: their best hitter in their lineup, and if you can

893
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: kind of take that little extra stress of trying to

894
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: get you know, eighteen outs or twenty one outside of

895
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: the game and just let them focus on hitting, and

896
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: you have two legitimate aces and maybe a third in

897
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: glass that who can pitch even before him. You know,

898
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: that's the way their roster's constructed. They have the ability

899
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: to do it, so go ahead and do it.

900
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: This was the only picture that the Phillies didn't take

901
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: the lead against, So why not? Why is he not

902
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: pitching if it's not about his hitting? Don't you want

903
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: the best pictures and the best hitters out there. I

904
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: have a hard time believing Dave Roberts that it wasn't

905
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: about his hitting, because he's never exerted that much effort

906
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: in a postseason game. Pictures will tell you you feel

907
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: different after throwing a postseason game, and this guy's rehabbed

908
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: to get to this point, and maybe physically he didn't

909
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: bounce bounce back as much, or maybe the Phillies just

910
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: didn't let him get any hits. But to me, it's

911
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: indicative of what they think, who they think their best

912
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 3: pictures are, because at this point it's just about who

913
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: your best pictures are. So they think Blake Snell and

914
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: Yamamoto will give them the best chance to come back

915
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: in a seven game series, because that was one of

916
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: the issues that I thought Yamamoto might need some extra rest,

917
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: he might need that extra extra rest. So they just

918
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: think he's their best. He's their best pitcher, and I

919
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: think you hold show hey out. He starts Game one

920
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: in the World Series if they make it okay.

921
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: So you think there's some comfort too of him, you know,

922
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: having to pitch and hit at home, like it's a

923
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: better routine for him. Maybe he comes out of the bullpen,

924
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: he has a chance to go on the mound hit

925
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: as opposed to maybe throw his bullpen a little bit earlier.

926
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: He has to lead off the game. There's just a

927
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: familiarity with him doing at home that also plays a factor.

928
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: They might not come out and admit it, but it

929
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: is real.

930
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Let's slap and we will point out that Anthony Santander

931
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: is out of the lineup for Game two for Toronto.

932
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: He is dealing with back tightness KP. We also learned

933
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: earlier today that Nathan Lucas should be okay as he

934
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: dealt with that tough h little foul tip off the knee.

935
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Kratz and me last night were like, I hope that's

936
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: not a Christian yell. It's knee cap situation. It wasn't

937
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: no fracture there. But thoughts on this change.

938
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to look and see who they

939
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: replaced him with. I was seeing if Nathan Lucas was

940
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: in there. It looks like he's BA second. The obvious

941
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: choice would be Miles Straw, but that also kind of

942
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: limits what they like to do if Nathan Lucas's knee

943
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: kind of flares up on him. So it's definitely a

944
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: story to watch. I have my thoughts about the back thing.

945
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's something that's not serious, but it is the playoffs.

946
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Got to find a way to get out there for

947
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: your team, especially knowing what Nathan Lucas went through yesterday.

948
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird year for Santander. I mean he missed what

949
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: three months this year?

950
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, around that point. Oh, here's the lineup. No, you

951
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: haven't seen that.

952
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: No lineup? Or yes, lineup.

953
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: Oh David Schneider. David Schneider's in there. So that still

954
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: gives him the flexibility of having a Milestraw come off

955
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: the bench. But yeah, David Schneider's in there, hitting eighth.

956
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a change for Toronto. Yep, crats hat.

957
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: I hope there's other teams that are out of it

958
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: right now that really get to watch these posts. This postseason.

959
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to have like a rooting interest,

960
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: but the A's have a good core of players. The

961
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: organization needs to push a little bit, like let's let's go.

962
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: Just be reminded, Just be reminded. I know you're on

963
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: vacation right now, but you don't want to be on vacation.

964
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: We got on this one right here.

965
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: What do you got?

966
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: Can we see the side? Wait, it's this side right here?

967
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow?

968
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 2: The future of baseball in Utah.

969
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, they're getting a team. In my mind is

970
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: that's leading the charge.

971
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: There for the the minor league Ballpark's incredible that plays is.

972
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973
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974
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975
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976
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Speaker 1: picks tonight. We've got two games to choose from.