Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my colleague West Hodkowitz.
Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field after an action packed weekend. West. The two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen NFL Draft is in the books. The Packers come
Speaker 1: out of it with eleven players. Just your your thoughts
Speaker 1: on how things went. I don't mean to throw a
Speaker 1: pity party for us here, but eleven picks. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of work for us to do on the website.
Speaker 1: But we got through it, and we're here to do
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Yeah. I mean it was funny because on
Speaker 1: Sunday I told my wife I had all these plans
Speaker 1: mapped out. I had some work I wanted to do
Speaker 1: in the backyard the basement. I was gonna go running.
Speaker 1: Accomplished none of that. I went to breakfast in the morning,
Speaker 1: Miss Church end up just basically sitting around all the afternoon.
Speaker 1: That's what happens, though, And I think when you go
Speaker 1: through a run like that this particular year, the Packers
Speaker 1: drafting eleven players, Uh, there's just so much that's happening
Speaker 1: in a lot of new personalities to get to know.
Speaker 1: But for the Packers perspective, I think you look at
Speaker 1: a lot of the reviews of this draft class have
Speaker 1: been very favorable, considering that they really addressed their biggest need,
Speaker 1: which was cornerback. Yeah, and I want to get to
Speaker 1: that as well. And just to give the fans of
Speaker 1: heads up, we're gonna be here all week talking about
Speaker 1: this draft. If we don't talk about your favorite draft
Speaker 1: pick on today's show, keep tuning in because we have
Speaker 1: a lot more shows to talk about this draft. But
Speaker 1: because we wrapped up last week talking about the first
Speaker 1: round and the selection of Louisville's Jaire Alexander, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I want to get to what happened in the second round.
Speaker 1: With the Packers sitting at forty five, right in the
Speaker 1: middle of the round. There and a player that a
Speaker 1: lot of people had rated as a first round prospect
Speaker 1: and that many mock drafts had actually going to the
Speaker 1: Packers at number fourteen. They're original pick in the first round,
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, the cornerback from Iowa, is there, even though
Speaker 1: the Packers had just chosen a cornerback in the first
Speaker 1: round the night before, simply too good a player to
Speaker 1: pass up who falls that far, and Brian Coudacus jumped
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, this is your quintessential best player available
Speaker 1: in the truest form. I mean, if you go back
Speaker 1: to the scouting combine, Mike, you and I were sitting
Speaker 1: there with Larry mccarren, we did some of the shows.
Speaker 1: I think the logical thinking at that point in time
Speaker 1: was there was Denzel Warden, then there was Josh Jackson.
Speaker 1: Those were kind of the one to Jackson ends up
Speaker 1: running in the you know, the mid four or five
Speaker 1: range at the combine and on the heels of only
Speaker 1: having that one true season where he was a starter
Speaker 1: at Iowa. I think that's ultimately what had him falling
Speaker 1: into the mid second round. But you look at his
Speaker 1: size and how he matches up, Mike, this is a
Speaker 1: great pick for the packers. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people right away we're trying to draw, you know,
Speaker 1: parallels to two thousand fifteen. I see, this is something
Speaker 1: that's entirely different because of where you picked your Alexander,
Speaker 1: how they had him raided on their board, and then
Speaker 1: being able to get Jackson Quentin Rollin's no disrespect to
Speaker 1: him wasn't viewed like a first round type prospect where
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson really was. And for the package to get
Speaker 1: him at forty five, I think that's something they felt
Speaker 1: really good about. Yeah, and eight interceptions for Jackson in seventeen,
Speaker 1: he sat behind a couple of other NFL level players. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't a starter at Iowa, was on the field,
Speaker 1: you know, on defense and sub packages things like that,
Speaker 1: was a starter for the first time in seventeen, and
Speaker 1: lo and behold, he ends up leading the nation with
Speaker 1: eight interceptions. And I'll say this was the most impressive
Speaker 1: thing to me about those eight interceptions, because with college statistics,
Speaker 1: you can have say, these players from the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: they play some lesser schools, smaller schools early in the season,
Speaker 1: guys can pad their stats and and make some things happen. Okay,
Speaker 1: but five of Josh Jackson's eight interceptions came in a
Speaker 1: two week span against Ohio State and Wisconsin, the two
Speaker 1: teams that were playing for the Big Ten championship when
Speaker 1: it was all said and done it in that conference
Speaker 1: last year. This is a guy who's a playmaker, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really going to be exciting to
Speaker 1: see just how he fits in and how Mike Petton
Speaker 1: wants to use them with another young corner in Alexander
Speaker 1: being that first round right. And what's interesting too about
Speaker 1: Jackson is that you talked about that cupcake schedule. Well,
Speaker 1: his was against Josh Allen, the number seven overall pick.
Speaker 1: He got an interception off him as well when Iowa
Speaker 1: beat Wyoming early in the season, So he earned you know,
Speaker 1: the pelts that are on his wall, they came through
Speaker 1: attrition and really being able to step up to the moment.
Speaker 1: And Alonso Dots and the Packers college scout that that
Speaker 1: handles that region in the Midwest. You know, he said
Speaker 1: it too. This is a guy so much was said
Speaker 1: in the pre draft process. He's a zone cornerback, but
Speaker 1: he has a lot of man in his background two
Speaker 1: playing single high safety looks being able to press it
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And I think if you didn't
Speaker 1: if you took away all that, Mike, if you don't
Speaker 1: pay attention to the zone kind of narrative that was
Speaker 1: out there, and you just looked at him as a
Speaker 1: six ft hundred and nine pound cornerback, he looks like
Speaker 1: a press may and corner and you know the second
Speaker 1: side of that is you look at those interceptions he
Speaker 1: had in Iowa. There are some amazing, highlight real catches
Speaker 1: that he had, and I think that that's kind of
Speaker 1: what he's giving you here. He gives you a fully
Speaker 1: rounded out cornerback and a guy I think the Packers think,
Speaker 1: can they can mold into that prototypical type boundary? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if there's one thing we heard most often
Speaker 1: in terms of the evaluation of Alexander and Jackson looking
Speaker 1: at them as a tandem here as the two picks
Speaker 1: at the top of this draft is ball skill. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about it. You know, it's about takeaways in
Speaker 1: this game. It's about making big plays on defense, especially
Speaker 1: making big plays at key times in ball games. These guys,
Speaker 1: these two corners at the top, were drafted to do
Speaker 1: exactly that they did, and they did it in different ways.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're both just the same cookie cutter
Speaker 1: type cornerback. Alexander is a smaller guy, but he's shifty.
Speaker 1: He plays big and great speed and athleticism. That jumps
Speaker 1: out to you, Josh Jackson, if this is a guy
Speaker 1: who in one year did what he did at Iowa.
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do when you have Joe Wick coaching you,
Speaker 1: when you can take all of those um you know,
Speaker 1: instincts and just what he brings the table, the rawness
Speaker 1: that he was able to really produce off of when
Speaker 1: you start to hone that with more technique and skill
Speaker 1: he set it to in his conference call. He feels
Speaker 1: like he's far from being a finished product and he
Speaker 1: brings that potential now to Green Bay. All right, with that,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to a breakback with more on
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowits, and that one,
Speaker 1: Okay West. Continuing our review of Friday night, the second
Speaker 1: and third rounds of the draft, the Packers actually went
Speaker 1: into the third round without a pick, having traded that
Speaker 1: third round pick to Seattle on Thursday night to move
Speaker 1: back up into the teens in the first round in
Speaker 1: order to take Alexander from Louisville. But as that third
Speaker 1: round was winding down, there was a player on the
Speaker 1: board that Brian Goodacunts really liked, wanted to have and
Speaker 1: traded a very valuable asset that being the number one
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round, which was going to be
Speaker 1: the opening pick on Saturday, traded that to move back
Speaker 1: into the third round and selected or In Burke's out
Speaker 1: of Vanderbilt. And I will say this, I don't really
Speaker 1: know much about Burke's. I didn't know much about him
Speaker 1: before the draft, but knowing what Goodacunts traded for him
Speaker 1: to get him tells me how highly he thought of him.
Speaker 1: And the fact, Mike, that they didn't want to wait
Speaker 1: thirteen more picks to take him. They felt like this
Speaker 1: is a guy that it was time to go. Um.
Speaker 1: And And it's funny too, because you say you don't
Speaker 1: know much about him. I think he was kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, a mystery a little bit to people throughout
Speaker 1: the draft process too. Some people had him as a
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth round pick, some had him in the
Speaker 1: third round just because of his skill set. It's so interesting,
Speaker 1: I said, um on Saturday night, Mike, I think the
Speaker 1: Packers made history in a number of ways. Here is
Speaker 1: the first time they've taken a natural long snapper a
Speaker 1: number one, that's his position in the draft. I think
Speaker 1: you probably could go back, and I'm sure there's some
Speaker 1: example you can show me. But I can't remember the
Speaker 1: last time the Packers took basically drafted a purposeful hybrid linebacker,
Speaker 1: which is what or In Burkes gives you. He did
Speaker 1: convert his last year. He was an inside backer, but
Speaker 1: he started at Vanderbilt as a defensive back his junior year.
Speaker 1: He ends up playing that hybrid safety role. Last year
Speaker 1: they just said, you know what, you're an inside backer.
Speaker 1: He plays in that two thirty five range, so he
Speaker 1: he looks the part, but he gives you some coverage skills,
Speaker 1: speed and physicality that I think is really gonna fit
Speaker 1: well in this defense. For what Mike Petton wants to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be two d and thirty plus pounds and to
Speaker 1: be able to uh to run you know a four
Speaker 1: five I believe it was was in the four fives
Speaker 1: with the forty yard dash at the combine. That's ah,
Speaker 1: that's the type of sideline to sideline type of speed
Speaker 1: from a linebacker that let's be honest. And this is
Speaker 1: no knock against Blake Martinez, who had a tremendous second season,
Speaker 1: and or against Jake Ryan, who's a really solid run
Speaker 1: defender in this Packers defense, but they can't run like
Speaker 1: that they don't have that kind of speed. So this
Speaker 1: brings a new element to an inside linebacker group that
Speaker 1: I think Mike Petton is going to try to find,
Speaker 1: you know, some different combinations here, and they're been depending
Speaker 1: on matchups and game plans and whatnot to use all
Speaker 1: these guys, and three dominoes had already fallen going into
Speaker 1: this draft. The first two are that Morgan Burnett and
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas are both gone. Joe Thomas had kind of
Speaker 1: been their coverage dime linebacker at times throughout the past
Speaker 1: two three years. Morgan Burnett was that hybrid linebacker who
Speaker 1: probably spent a majority of two thousand seventeen lining up
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage, whether it was in the
Speaker 1: slot or whether it was at ninebacker. And then the
Speaker 1: other one is Josh Jones, who teased that position a
Speaker 1: little bit, but Mike McCarthy's already said they want him
Speaker 1: to focus on safety. Now, going in two thousand eighteen,
Speaker 1: you only had Martinez and Ryan, you needed to add
Speaker 1: somebody to that room. They did it in the third round,
Speaker 1: and I think that gives them kind of that staple
Speaker 1: that they're looking for three guys that have different types
Speaker 1: of skill sets that can all be utilized in this defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: an interesting background here with Burke's two goes to comes
Speaker 1: from Vanderbilt, I should say, has a younger sister who's
Speaker 1: also an athlete, a an accomplished softball player out at
Speaker 1: Stanford UM. So you're talking about, you know, a family
Speaker 1: that sends its its children to some some highly regarded
Speaker 1: academic institutions, but they carry a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: of athletic ability. And uh and for Or and Burke's
Speaker 1: to be drafted in the third round coming to the Packers, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know it says says something about the work that
Speaker 1: he put in, but but sounds also like an incredibly
Speaker 1: well rounded kid. And that's important because you can have
Speaker 1: all those tools and inside back or you can be physical,
Speaker 1: you can be able to run with guys in the slot,
Speaker 1: be able to cover you know, running backs coming out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. But if you can't mentally process all
Speaker 1: that quickly, it's not gonna work out. And I think
Speaker 1: you're getting a really intelligent kid who's obviously very driven
Speaker 1: and sold the Packers on all of this. I believe
Speaker 1: he was one of the pre draft Is it's correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on that. I think they there's
Speaker 1: so many that come through here. I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: sure I get them all right. But they've been able
Speaker 1: to take a look at him, they've been able to
Speaker 1: study him, and they felt good enough about him, as
Speaker 1: you said, to take that very precious first pick on
Speaker 1: the fourth day, getting hours just to process who they
Speaker 1: want to pick. They moved up. They knew they didn't
Speaker 1: need that time, and Berks was that guy. All right
Speaker 1: with that, We're gonna go to another break back with
Speaker 1: moren Packers unscripted right after this, Welcome back to Packers unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West, Hodkuwit's over there, okay, West. So
Speaker 1: on Day three of the draft, the Packers go into
Speaker 1: it with eight picks. They end up sitting pat at
Speaker 1: all of those spots and taking eight players. And I
Speaker 1: think if there's one thing that Day three of the
Speaker 1: draft would be remembered for in Green Bay, much like
Speaker 1: Day three and seventeen was remembered for taking three running backs.
Speaker 1: This one was three wide receivers. Jmon Moore from Missouri
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, Marquez Valdez Scantling from South Florida
Speaker 1: in the fifth round and then Equinimius St. Brown from
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in the sixth round. I got all those
Speaker 1: names out west. I survived it. But um packers of
Speaker 1: restocked reloaded in some ways here at wide receiver, not
Speaker 1: with a top prospect, not with a first round, second
Speaker 1: round guy, but um as I said, much like they
Speaker 1: did at running back. Their stockpiling here and they're gonna
Speaker 1: see what happens. Yeah, and all three of them I
Speaker 1: think checked two very big boxes, athletic and tall. When
Speaker 1: you look at St. Brown six ft five, he says,
Speaker 1: right now, he's around to eighteen. He was listed at
Speaker 1: two oh three. He's the son of a former world
Speaker 1: champion bodybuilder. UM and obviously his story has been documented
Speaker 1: by HBO A a bunch of different outlets. Remarkable, remarkable athleticism,
Speaker 1: and also had a really good report with to Shaun
Speaker 1: Kaiser two years ago at Notre Dame. UM Jimon Moore
Speaker 1: is terrific. I mean a guy that was incredibly productive
Speaker 1: two thousand yards seasons in the sec um that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen by accident. Now there's some questions about his drops.
Speaker 1: Uh he him and both also John Rick Salvin said
Speaker 1: a lot of that they think is a concentration thing.
Speaker 1: Him just trying to work two steps ahead, trying to
Speaker 1: slow down his game. As he said, humbling his eyes
Speaker 1: a little bit is going to be the key, and
Speaker 1: Velda is scantling is honestly to me, out of these eleven,
Speaker 1: I think is the most intriguing of all these prospects
Speaker 1: because he runs so fast. He sub four four, he
Speaker 1: is six ft four. I think there was some questions
Speaker 1: about the vertical was a little a little shorter than
Speaker 1: you would expect for a guy that's his size and
Speaker 1: with that kind of speed, But had a career year,
Speaker 1: had a you know, a school record in terms of
Speaker 1: a single season production last year at USF and all
Speaker 1: three of them bring something else to the table. And
Speaker 1: with trying to find a you know, another guy to
Speaker 1: step in for Jordy Nelson, it gives Luke actually said, look,
Speaker 1: David Rye in the Packers offense, a lot of different
Speaker 1: options to work with. Yeah, and you said it at
Speaker 1: the beginning. You look at the size of these guys,
Speaker 1: all three of them in that six three to six
Speaker 1: ft five range. We've talked over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years about when Geronimo Allison has been on the field
Speaker 1: last year when um, Michael Clark Clark, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say Brown, and I knew that wasn't right. Michael Clark
Speaker 1: when he's been on the field, a different type of
Speaker 1: target out there. Now you're bringing in these three guys
Speaker 1: that you know that all provide that different type of target.
Speaker 1: It really changes the dynamic a little bit here in
Speaker 1: terms of this group of young pass catchers that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers will be working with. And uh And if one
Speaker 1: thing stood out to me about the third of the three,
Speaker 1: st Brown from Notre Dame, it's that he was the
Speaker 1: one guy in all the conference calls that we did
Speaker 1: with the players after they were picked. They for those
Speaker 1: who don't know, they put them on a conference call
Speaker 1: with all the media in the auditorium at Lambeau Field
Speaker 1: that you can ask them questions over the phone. He
Speaker 1: was the one who I felt anyway, it was kind
Speaker 1: of ticked off that he had to wait until the
Speaker 1: end of the sixth round to get picked. A lot
Speaker 1: of projections had him as more of a third or
Speaker 1: fourth round guy. He seemed kind of annoyed by it.
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious to see if he's able to
Speaker 1: to to channel that disappointment, you know, in the proper
Speaker 1: way to in terms of motivation, and went not to
Speaker 1: get his NFL career started, because we've seen guys like
Speaker 1: that before. You know, the the old chip on the
Speaker 1: shoulder cliche. Sometimes it can work to your advantage, but
Speaker 1: also sometimes that can become too much of the story.
Speaker 1: It can be and there's there's two different elements. Is
Speaker 1: that I really like though for st Brown, he is
Speaker 1: getting reunited now at de Shaun Kaiser. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: nobody happier to see their name come up with the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers than st. Brown because he knows now
Speaker 1: in training camp throughout the preseason he's gonna work with
Speaker 1: the guy that he had the most success with different
Speaker 1: different change of quarterback. Last year. His numbers went down,
Speaker 1: but he's going to be able to have that. The
Speaker 1: other side of it is, though he did say the
Speaker 1: draft committee going into this thing projected him as a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. There were some top one hundreds I
Speaker 1: saw that had him within that. I think Pro Football
Speaker 1: Focus had him up as high as sixties six on
Speaker 1: their list of overall prospects. So he did leave a
Speaker 1: year early. He could have went back for one more year.
Speaker 1: He only had really two years at Notre Dame. He
Speaker 1: played as a true freshman, but not very much so
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot to go off from that perspective.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I do really like about these
Speaker 1: three picks. You remember in two thousand and thirteen, Mike,
Speaker 1: the Packers they kind of overloaded a little bit in
Speaker 1: the late rounds. They went with Charles Johnson, they drafted
Speaker 1: Kevin Dorsey. Johnson was coming from Division two. Dorsey was
Speaker 1: coming from Maryland but had no production really whatsoever, and
Speaker 1: the quarterback was an issue. All three of these guys
Speaker 1: come from bigger programs. And even though Valdez Scantling came
Speaker 1: from USF, he started at North Carolina State. These are
Speaker 1: Power five type prospects, power five type recruits, and now
Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing, they hope, with the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in football. It does not set you up any better
Speaker 1: to really show what you can do than the platform
Speaker 1: the Packers are giving them. Yeah, and the and the
Speaker 1: comment you made initially about Jamon Moore out of Missouri
Speaker 1: back to back one thousand yards seasons, I believe it
Speaker 1: was eighteen touchdown catches and when you're talking about doing
Speaker 1: that in the sect, you know, against these schools like
Speaker 1: Alabama and l s U who have defensive backs drafted
Speaker 1: high every single year, and and other schools in in
Speaker 1: that conference as well. That says something. You know, Florida
Speaker 1: has defensive backs drafted all the time as well. And
Speaker 1: the other thing I like about more his drops were
Speaker 1: easy drops. That's what a lot of scouts had said
Speaker 1: throughout this process. It was just stuff underneath stuff where
Speaker 1: he just was looking too far ahead. He can make
Speaker 1: contested catches, he can make them along the boundary. That's
Speaker 1: the type of prospect you're looking at. All. Right with that,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to a breakback with more on
Speaker 1: Packer's Unscripted. Excuse me right after this welcome back to
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. I have Mike Spofford. He is West Hodko.
Speaker 1: It's okay, West, final segment of the show, and I'll
Speaker 1: try to get through it. My voice has cracked a
Speaker 1: couple of times already today. That streaming over the weekend
Speaker 1: tells you how long the weekend was to get through.
Speaker 1: But anyway, a lot of guys here to talk about
Speaker 1: on day three. But I do want to hit on
Speaker 1: a couple of I guess you'd have to call him
Speaker 1: surprise picks. The Packers take not one but two specialists
Speaker 1: in the final rounds of the draft, punter j K.
Speaker 1: Scott from Alabama and then long snapper Hunter Bradley from
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, both from the SEC and UH, I guess
Speaker 1: we're already headed for quite the competition at punter and
Speaker 1: training camp with Justin Vogel, we are. I just want
Speaker 1: to say something quick. I never toot my own horn here.
Speaker 1: I totally called them drafting a long snapper. Though I
Speaker 1: called it. I called it. We'll talk about Hunter brad
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the second. The one thing
Speaker 1: I did not call did not anticipate them taking a punter,
Speaker 1: just because I thought Justin Vogel for the most part,
Speaker 1: had a good enough year and he didn't have any
Speaker 1: competition for that job last year at all once Jake
Speaker 1: Schum was placed on injured reserve. So but I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at j K Scott, Mike, this is a
Speaker 1: guy that I can see why it would be hard
Speaker 1: for the Packers to pass up, especially if you're depending
Speaker 1: on what that fifth round board looked like. You pointed
Speaker 1: it out if a punter is your top value there
Speaker 1: in the fifth round? You feel comfortable there. You could
Speaker 1: go a lot worse than J. K. Scott six ft six,
Speaker 1: little over two hundred pounds is he said in his
Speaker 1: his conference call with US. He doesn't even have to
Speaker 1: leave the ground when he punts, just because of the
Speaker 1: leg in what he's at, how high he's able to
Speaker 1: get up on these punts. And it sounded like that
Speaker 1: last year at Alabama they really honed his technique, a
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline punter. He feels comfortable doing that. I
Speaker 1: believe there was only five punts returned against him last year,
Speaker 1: thanks in part too increased hang time and also the
Speaker 1: gunners getting down in the field quick enough. For Obama,
Speaker 1: this guy's a really good prospect. I can see why
Speaker 1: the Packers took a liking to him. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to look when you look at the numbers, you have
Speaker 1: to look at them very carefully with Scott, because his
Speaker 1: senior year at Alabama, his gross average was forty three yards,
Speaker 1: which was actually less than his career average of forty
Speaker 1: five point six, which is a school record at Alabama.
Speaker 1: But then you look at the net average, the net
Speaker 1: average his senior year was almost identical to the gross
Speaker 1: average because nobody returned any punts. Half the punts were
Speaker 1: fair caught. He pinned a bunch of them inside the
Speaker 1: twenty yard line. There were hardly any return yards at all.
Speaker 1: And that's something that where I I think he elevated
Speaker 1: his game to where he became a punter that somebody
Speaker 1: was going to draft, because, um, yeah, when that net
Speaker 1: average and that gross averages are so close together, that
Speaker 1: says something about the all around abilities that guy had.
Speaker 1: As he said, he was getting really long punts his
Speaker 1: first couple of years there, especially after he got you know,
Speaker 1: some of the knee issues behind him, but guys were
Speaker 1: being able to return it. There was no hang time there,
Speaker 1: so they added some more technique to that, and that's
Speaker 1: what enabled him to be in a position that he was.
Speaker 1: Really Mike when it comes down to a net hang times,
Speaker 1: net punting yards is really the only thing me personally
Speaker 1: that I care about. Yeah, And when you talk about
Speaker 1: Hunter Bradley, the long snapper from Mississippi State, talk about
Speaker 1: a kid who has overcome a heck of a lot.
Speaker 1: Was at three a c L injuries over the course
Speaker 1: of his career, ended up spending six years six years
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State because he had a red shirt ear
Speaker 1: and then also kind of a medical hardship year that
Speaker 1: got him an extra year of eligibility, and in the
Speaker 1: seventh round he ends up getting drafted in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Hard not to root for a guy like that, the
Speaker 1: only long snapper that was drafted this year, and then
Speaker 1: also from the standpoint of Packers needing a guy at
Speaker 1: that position. Hunter Bradley is such an interesting story because
Speaker 1: he was the son of a long snapper. He went
Speaker 1: to Mississippi State playing tight end, had three A c
Speaker 1: L injuries. He even recounted a story of one of
Speaker 1: the team leaders going up to him asked him in
Speaker 1: the training room one day, why are you still here?
Speaker 1: He ends up getting a chance to become the long
Speaker 1: snapper after the starting guy tore his A c L
Speaker 1: and then played the position perfectly his last two seasons.
Speaker 1: A really good story that will probably end up talking
Speaker 1: a little bit more about later this week. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he should put why are you still here? On
Speaker 1: a T shirt that he wears under his jersey and
Speaker 1: every NFL game that he ends up playing. If I
Speaker 1: were him, that's what I would do. But With that,
Speaker 1: we have to sign off on Packers Unscripted. Be sure
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