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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my colleague West Hodkowitz.

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Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field after an action packed weekend. West. The two thousand

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Speaker 1: eighteen NFL Draft is in the books. The Packers come

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Speaker 1: out of it with eleven players. Just your your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on how things went. I don't mean to throw a

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Speaker 1: pity party for us here, but eleven picks. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of work for us to do on the website.

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Speaker 1: But we got through it, and we're here to do

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Yeah. I mean it was funny because on

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Speaker 1: Sunday I told my wife I had all these plans

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Speaker 1: in the backyard the basement. I was gonna go running.

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Speaker 1: Accomplished none of that. I went to breakfast in the morning,

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Speaker 1: Miss Church end up just basically sitting around all the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens, though, And I think when you go

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Speaker 1: through a run like that this particular year, the Packers

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Speaker 1: drafting eleven players, Uh, there's just so much that's happening

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Speaker 1: in a lot of new personalities to get to know.

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Speaker 1: But for the Packers perspective, I think you look at

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Speaker 1: a lot of the reviews of this draft class have

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Speaker 1: been very favorable, considering that they really addressed their biggest need,

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Speaker 1: which was cornerback. Yeah, and I want to get to

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Speaker 1: that as well. And just to give the fans of

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Speaker 1: heads up, we're gonna be here all week talking about

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Speaker 1: this draft. If we don't talk about your favorite draft

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Speaker 1: pick on today's show, keep tuning in because we have

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Speaker 1: a lot more shows to talk about this draft. But

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Speaker 1: because we wrapped up last week talking about the first

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Speaker 1: round and the selection of Louisville's Jaire Alexander, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I want to get to what happened in the second round.

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Speaker 1: With the Packers sitting at forty five, right in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the round. There and a player that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people had rated as a first round prospect

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Speaker 1: and that many mock drafts had actually going to the

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Speaker 1: Packers at number fourteen. They're original pick in the first round,

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Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, the cornerback from Iowa, is there, even though

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Speaker 1: the Packers had just chosen a cornerback in the first

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Speaker 1: round the night before, simply too good a player to

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Speaker 1: pass up who falls that far, and Brian Coudacus jumped

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Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, this is your quintessential best player available

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Speaker 1: in the truest form. I mean, if you go back

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Speaker 1: to the scouting combine, Mike, you and I were sitting

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Speaker 1: there with Larry mccarren, we did some of the shows.

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Speaker 1: I think the logical thinking at that point in time

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Speaker 1: Those were kind of the one to Jackson ends up

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Speaker 1: size and how he matches up, Mike, this is a

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Speaker 1: great pick for the packers. And I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people right away we're trying to draw, you know,

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Speaker 1: parallels to two thousand fifteen. I see, this is something

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Speaker 1: that's entirely different because of where you picked your Alexander,

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Speaker 1: how they had him raided on their board, and then

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Speaker 1: being able to get Jackson Quentin Rollin's no disrespect to

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Speaker 1: him wasn't viewed like a first round type prospect where

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Speaker 1: Josh Jackson really was. And for the package to get

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Speaker 1: he sat behind a couple of other NFL level players. Uh,

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Speaker 1: eight interceptions. And I'll say this was the most impressive

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Speaker 1: guys can pad their stats and and make some things happen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but five of Josh Jackson's eight interceptions came in a

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Speaker 1: if you took away all that, Mike, if you don't

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.

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Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowits, and that one,

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Speaker 1: Okay West. Continuing our review of Friday night, the second

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Speaker 1: and third rounds of the draft, the Packers actually went

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Speaker 1: to focus on safety. Now, going in two thousand eighteen,

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Speaker 1: an interesting background here with Burke's two goes to comes

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Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West, Hodkuwit's over there, okay, West. So

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. I have Mike Spofford. He is West Hodko.

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