WEBVTT - Were The Oscars “Kenough”?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Laurence Ema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Oscar Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>We watched the Oscars on a plane leaving Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>We were in LA to surprise a friend, our wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>friend for her birthday and had a great time. Caught

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<v Speaker 3>up with friends in Los Angeles for a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days and then flew back. But hey, thanks to American

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<v Speaker 3>Airlines for the live TV. I really enjoyed watching the

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<v Speaker 3>Oscars on the airplane, Unlike when I was on the

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<v Speaker 3>airplane for the Super Bowl. Not everybody. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>saw nobody else watching it. Like when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>an airport for the Super Bowl. It's on TVs at

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<v Speaker 3>the restaurants, people are crowding around watching. That was not

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<v Speaker 3>happening for the Oscars. As a lover of pop culture,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish that it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I made mention as we were at the gate we

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<v Speaker 1>were about to get on and this is minutes before

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscars was about to start, and what I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was there were some people that we had

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<v Speaker 1>brushed into in LA were in the industry, so there

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<v Speaker 1>was some mention of it, but overall, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>very little buzz, very little attention, very little care in

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<v Speaker 1>the world for the Oscars, and there just isn't any buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were in Los Angeles, so you know you would.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope the ratings are better. I want it to

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<v Speaker 4>be good.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, okay, first of all, again we should talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it's a good show. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>our favorite moments. I really thought the Oscars were good,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did think about, like I remember reading the

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<v Speaker 3>statistic that like twenty years ago, the Oscars. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to get these numbers right, right, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>something at like twice the viewership it's set now. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the Super Bowl was like way less, Like last

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<v Speaker 3>year was the biggest. This past one was the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, it was one hundred and twenty two million, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like the biggest all thing ever watching it

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<v Speaker 3>since the moon landing or something crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So sports has something gone up.

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<v Speaker 3>The Oscars has gone down, and I do think people

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<v Speaker 3>are crying out for a unified experience, and the Oscars

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<v Speaker 3>could be that the problem is they don't spot like

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<v Speaker 3>they've spent years not spotlighting the movies that the audiences

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<v Speaker 3>are going to see. Like I did see a statistic yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>So last night, if you missed the Oscars spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 3>the Best Picture winner was Oppenheimer. And I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>note a fact that the Oppenheimer is the first major

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<v Speaker 3>box office like big box office movie to win Best

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<v Speaker 3>Picture since Lord of the Rings Return of the King

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago. It is the first movie since The

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<v Speaker 3>King Speech, which was an independent film back in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that has made over four hundred million in

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<v Speaker 3>the box office. So, long story short, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>first time in twenty years the Academy has awarded a

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<v Speaker 3>movie that its audience all went to see with the

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<v Speaker 3>Best Picture award. So you're not giving people the content

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<v Speaker 3>that they're engaging in. And I think that's a huge

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<v Speaker 3>part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>When we look back and you and I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts all the time, Rewatchables or whatever, and you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these these crazy years when there were movies going

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<v Speaker 1>against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like nineteen ninety four is this famously incredible year

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<v Speaker 3>for movies. It was like Forrest Gump and I want

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<v Speaker 3>a good Will hunting or maybe shawshank There were all

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<v Speaker 3>these amazing movies all in.

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<v Speaker 1>One year, right, and you're talking about these movies and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, how did they choose and best actor? And

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<v Speaker 1>it was the greatest actors of all time going against

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<v Speaker 1>each other. It's like, how did they choose? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we all tuned in for is we saw these great

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<v Speaker 1>movies that we loved all year, we talked about them

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<v Speaker 1>all year, and then they were celebrated. Now again different time.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually had to go to the theater or you

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<v Speaker 1>had to rent them from blockbusters, so you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>actions could.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine, But imagine if over the past ten years, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>superhero movies which are which largely were very good. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I loved all the Ironman movies on it. What

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<v Speaker 3>if they'd been awarding giving the moscars.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Robert Donney Junior won last night. He easily could

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<v Speaker 1>have won for Iron Man one.

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<v Speaker 4>Or he's incredible in these movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Those movies fantastic. Now again those have declined and they've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten bad. But for a while they were everything and

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<v Speaker 1>they were.

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<v Speaker 3>But no matter what, blowing out the box office, flowing

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<v Speaker 3>out the box office.

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<v Speaker 4>Like luckily this past.

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<v Speaker 3>Year we had a return to people going to the

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<v Speaker 3>movies with Barbie and with Oppenheimer awesome because to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to watch something at home, but I like

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<v Speaker 3>going to the movies.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a date night.

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<v Speaker 1>Paltro Jon Favreau couldn't have won as supporting actors and

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<v Speaker 1>actresses in those movies for Pepper Potts and for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were great.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the Academy's mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a huge, huge when when all those the

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<v Speaker 1>Academy and the executives go, they're scratching their heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yef year, what are we doing wrong? Maybe it's them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always them, right, it's oh, people don't get us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they dive deeper and deep or into these films

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody sees. That is not to negate or crap

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<v Speaker 1>on independent filmmaking, small filmmaking. It is wonderful. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an art and those people need to be shown as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but not at the Oscars. The Oscars is a stage.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oscars isn't for tech technically, it isn't for the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to promote the film industry. That's really what it's for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to blow this film industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Up into shows. Well, the thing is, it's right light

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<v Speaker 2>on what everybody's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really the simple why put it on TV?

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not gonna be for the people who for

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<v Speaker 3>the people at home who are ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 3>them are not in Los Angeles in this industry, why

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<v Speaker 3>put it on TV then and just do your own

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<v Speaker 3>little awards show, which I think is how it started.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're going to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>On TV and you want people to watch, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually rude to the audience at home to not

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<v Speaker 3>nominate and let win the movies that they're loving to watch,

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<v Speaker 3>Then why would they care? And guess what they haven't cared.

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<v Speaker 3>So this year was a return back to that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it gets better from here.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was a course correction at one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say they course corrected sixty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Barbie should have won some stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie should have been nominated.

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<v Speaker 4>Gerwig should have been nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie should have been nominated for some stuff. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to Jimmy Kimmel, but one of the I guess few

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<v Speaker 1>things that Jimmy Kimmel actually was good and dead on

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<v Speaker 1>last night was when he mentioned Barbie off the top

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<v Speaker 1>in Greta Gerwig and everybody was applauding, and he said, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are responsible for this. Don't applaud like your

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<v Speaker 1>standing for Greta Gerwig when you didn't nominate her, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that was actually funny that Jimmy Kimmel hit. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to Jimmy in a little bit. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Barbenheimer movement was everything this year in the movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and Oppenheimer was so celebrated last night, definitely deservedly so,

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<v Speaker 1>but Barbie largely was not other than like song and

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<v Speaker 1>some other things they were nominated for, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>Gosling performed, we'll talk about that. Overall, a pretty big miss.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was a layup. It's just a right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, again should have been nominated for

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<v Speaker 3>Best Director, Margot Robbie should have been nominated, and she wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it didn't even really win in categories. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it would like set and costume, Poor Things beat

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<v Speaker 3>it Poor Things with Emma Stone and Mark Ruffalo one

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<v Speaker 3>more than I thought it was going to. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the voting of the Academy as kind of

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<v Speaker 3>leaning towards that artseer, you know, more different movie and

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen Poor Things.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it is, and you know what I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>at least it as a really well known star in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and Emma Stone Like audiences love Emma Stone.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night and her speech was super cute.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people felt Lily Gladstone should have won,

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<v Speaker 3>and I actually think you could see it on Ema

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<v Speaker 3>Stone's face when she got announced that she was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, I won.

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<v Speaker 1>Leonardo DiCaprio had famously been campaigning for her so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not nominated and did not show up last night,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had been campaigning for her, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people thought that would really help this scorsesey as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I haven't seen Killers of the Flower Moon.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard she's incredible in that.

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<v Speaker 4>And would it have been? Nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Time?

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<v Speaker 3>So long?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's take Jim about that last night. I liked that

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<v Speaker 4>joke for Moon too.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of called everybody out and said all of

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<v Speaker 3>your movies are too long. The average movie I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>it wrong, but he cited the average movie nominated was

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<v Speaker 3>like two hours and twenty minutes long or something. Give

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<v Speaker 3>me a tight ninety Yeah, what happened to the hour

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<v Speaker 3>and forty minute mon.

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<v Speaker 1>My loved Oppenheimer, truly loved Oppenheimer. The performances, the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the story, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was too damn long.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even that movie Man, there were so I

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<v Speaker 1>could go in without even blinking. I could cut forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes out of that film and it would still

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<v Speaker 1>be too long.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want people to go see movies in

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<v Speaker 3>the theater, I've heard a lot of people say this.

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<v Speaker 4>It is this basic.

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<v Speaker 3>They shouldn't have to take a bathroom break, like it

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<v Speaker 3>should be two hours or less if they have to

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<v Speaker 3>go pee and miss the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember going to see Gandhi when there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the intermission. I was like, what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>because that was such a rare thing back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day to have, Yeah, a movie so long that there

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<v Speaker 1>was an intermission. And that's we're leaning into a Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>play where there are intermissions where we got to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. But overall, as we get into the show, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about when I say the course correction, they

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<v Speaker 1>did a better job because the show seemed more modern.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have the Voice of God kind of talking, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Alan Greer was doing the voice which I loved. We

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<v Speaker 4>had some fun with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Very recognizable, but less voiceover work like it's nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>The set seemed good, the graphics were tight. There were stars,

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<v Speaker 1>stars that we all recognize, because again, there are movies

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<v Speaker 1>that we actually watched this year. So it just felt

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<v Speaker 1>fresh and it felt good. It felt like we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>A good time.

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<v Speaker 3>I would give it the review of this is the

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<v Speaker 3>best Oscars I've seen in a couple of years in

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<v Speaker 3>a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the stage was beautiful, the production was tight.

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<v Speaker 3>There weren't big misses, it kept moving. There weren't any

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<v Speaker 3>presenting moments where it was like god, this written, like really,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the best thing we could write. Nothing painful

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<v Speaker 3>like that. And I also realized in watching it, you

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<v Speaker 3>know it is hard. And I'll give Awards shows this,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a struggle in the age of social media.

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<v Speaker 3>This used to be the only place you could see

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<v Speaker 3>these celebrities. It was on these awards shows, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was really special in the age of social media. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them have social media, but what you can

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<v Speaker 3>get at these awards shows and what they leaned into

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<v Speaker 3>a little last night, and I hope they lean into

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<v Speaker 3>better in the future is just really rare cool moments

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<v Speaker 3>of celebrities coming together, and like like watching Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 3>and Danny DeVito together last night. They were so funny together,

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<v Speaker 3>they were so naturally charismatic and what took it to

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<v Speaker 3>the next level And I thought, Okay, someone really thought

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<v Speaker 3>this out a little better. At first, you thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be a twins reunion. I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to say the same thing, and then they cut to

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Keaton in the audience and you realized they were

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<v Speaker 3>playing off of the fact that they were both in

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<v Speaker 3>Batman movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And they both got killed by by Batman who was

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<v Speaker 2>right there. It was Genie.

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<v Speaker 4>It made it.

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<v Speaker 3>Really fun putting Emily Blunt and Ryan Gosling together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>listen and people need a reason those two were together

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<v Speaker 3>presenting or acknowledging the stunt community on stage because they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing the movie The fall Guy, about a stuntman that

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<v Speaker 3>comes out soon. But they were in Barbie and Oppenheimer.

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<v Speaker 3>They made they had fun with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they were funny.

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<v Speaker 1>They were funny, Yeah, and I loved I love Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>kind of giving a shot at Oppenheimer, you know about briding,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Barbie, uh taking you know, rid and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really well done.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought those moments were great. I guess we're getting

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<v Speaker 3>into highlights. I thought the John seen a moment of

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<v Speaker 3>him coming out naked.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, like, I'm sorry, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know some people online are really been out of

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<v Speaker 1>shape about it, but come on, it was really no

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<v Speaker 1>different than what he wears in wrestling. If he'd had

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<v Speaker 1>a little singlet on, which is what they wear their

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<v Speaker 1>little briefs, it's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a card. I mean, it's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you saw anything you weren't supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, here's where they were.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was funny and the writing took it

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<v Speaker 3>to the next level. At first, I thought, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just going to come out and streak, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to be that funny. But the fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>walks out and he says he's doing the award for

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<v Speaker 3>costume design, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, that's costumes are important, maybe the most important thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I'll give I'll give Kimmel credit here. Good bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good bit. He went back and had

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<v Speaker 1>a little back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Forth with whatever was writing last night. I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>felt like, and I know, like Jimmy Kimmel and his

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<v Speaker 3>wife Molly.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's McNerney.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually was big in kind of the improv comedy

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<v Speaker 3>scene when I was first starting in LA and I

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<v Speaker 3>think she wrote for his show and now she produces,

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<v Speaker 3>so she produced the show last night. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who they brought in, but the writers they had for

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<v Speaker 3>last night, it was elevated.

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<v Speaker 4>It was good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say about Kimmel, you know, hosting that event

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<v Speaker 1>is very hard. It's notoriously a very difficult thing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>done what four or five years I think in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't do bad. I'd say I give him

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<v Speaker 1>a B minus. Some of his stuff off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the monologue seemed tired, like like it's I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it before, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I actually just thought he seemed a little tired.

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<v Speaker 4>He seemed like a little like he just done this before.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there were a few times when he came out

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<v Speaker 3>and he kept going, how are we doing? I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's long, and I'm like, well, if you're like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who else they could get to do the job,

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<v Speaker 3>because that job is so notoriously dangerous for your career, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>think of what you know, who you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know first of all? Who everybody wants.

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<v Speaker 4>Now give us John Mullaney.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us John Mullaney. He was so much you let

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<v Speaker 1>him host the Oscars. Jimmy, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Turnoff for the millions that are watching and there will

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<v Speaker 1>be millions that are watches. Don't come out and crap

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<v Speaker 1>on the show you're hosting. You immediately come out and say, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it shouldn't be but this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be boring.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna all suffer through this, Like I am, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just strap in, like what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it probably will be long.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, even though they started an hour early, they

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<v Speaker 1>still went over there allotted time last night. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't It's just it's such a thing to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and just tell everybody how your show is gonna suck

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of go through and crap on some movies.

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<v Speaker 1>We're imm a stone now. Of course, you see on

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<v Speaker 1>social media where she kind of called Kimmel a prick,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's some people are saying she settled the lip readers.

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<v Speaker 1>For kind of you know, crapping on her movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you had John mulaney come out and easily the

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<v Speaker 1>best written comedic bit of the night that celebrated movies

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<v Speaker 1>and it was funny. That's what we miss. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Crystal, that's the Steve Martin, Jimmy Kimmel. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give him a failing grade. I'll give him

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<v Speaker 1>a B minus because he moved the show along and

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<v Speaker 1>he did have some highlights, but overall, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need a fresh start.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you're saying, it's such good insight from you,

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<v Speaker 3>as someone who's hosted how many live two hour shows,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, what if you came out and

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<v Speaker 3>started after the final rows with Hey, everybody, I know

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<v Speaker 3>this is long and it's gonna be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is a rough night.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm contractually obligated to do this, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just bear with me, will you. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what tone are you setting? It's this is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest night of the year, millions of are watching around

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the problem is that statement he's making is

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<v Speaker 3>to the people in the room. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>the nominees are still excited. Like Robert Downey Junior has

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<v Speaker 3>been in this industry for twenty years, the ups and

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<v Speaker 3>downs he's had, as he alluded to last night, the

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<v Speaker 3>man at one point couldn't get a job, couldn't get insured,

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<v Speaker 3>he was a drug addict.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying anything he hasn't said. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's now winning an Oscar like he is Hollywood's comebackstory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but for so for him, he's excited to be there

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<v Speaker 3>and like it marks a real moment of he made it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he did it and he came back from the darkness.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you're saying to the people in the room,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be long, but you're saying to

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<v Speaker 3>the people at home, go ahead and turn off your

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<v Speaker 3>TV if you want. Like so, I think if he'd

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<v Speaker 3>cut out those comments. Overall, I thought, again, it was

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<v Speaker 3>well written, It moved well. I did laugh out loud

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of times, and that's not the case for

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<v Speaker 3>every award show. And you know, people looked great and like,

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<v Speaker 3>the packages are really nice. I really liked the Well

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get into that buty. Just sticking on Kimmel, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that I remember him saying that he came back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think because of Barbie and that's why he decided

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<v Speaker 3>to do it again. And I can't imagine it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>to get someone to do this, Like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>they've asked John mulaney and he said no up until

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<v Speaker 3>this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet not because Kimmel's ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And whether he will admit it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big gig for him and you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be on that stage and to be that guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's a little tired of him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's tired. And if I think, if he was

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<v Speaker 1>being honest, he might say himself, if you interviewed him today,

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<v Speaker 1>are you into this? Are you excited? Because it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like he was put out. I guess that's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when he came out for the monologue, he

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<v Speaker 1>really seemed put out, like I can't believe you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are doing this and I got to be here instead

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<v Speaker 1>of I didn't feel the excitement. When Johnmulaney came out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm in man, Let that guy do

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, let him cook. I am into his monologue,

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<v Speaker 1>let him go.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that presenting moment at the Oscars. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people tweeting and saying, well, he just

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<v Speaker 3>nailed his audition for hosting the Oscars, Like now he's

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<v Speaker 3>done the Governor's Awards, they know he can do an

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<v Speaker 3>awards show. And then he did the big stage and

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<v Speaker 3>he was really funny and crushed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's my twenty twenty four prediction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's I think if he wants it,

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<v Speaker 3>I think after last night it's his.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he wants it.

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<v Speaker 1>We need him, Yeah, we need him. We need a

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<v Speaker 1>f and the Academy does too. It'll be huge to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fresh a change.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's a little younger and like he is, and

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<v Speaker 3>by that I just I mean younger audiences know him

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<v Speaker 3>like our kids.

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<v Speaker 4>They love his comedy. You know what I noticed, college

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<v Speaker 4>kids love his comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>The audience responded to him. And I don't mean us

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<v Speaker 2>the viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the people in that theater which are hardened

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<v Speaker 1>and barely paying attention because look, there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about you because I've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar several times, so have you, and it is a long,

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<v Speaker 1>arduous journey when you're in that audience because it's really

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<v Speaker 1>made for TV, so you can't hear a lot. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I noticed when they panned out, people were laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>people were into his comedy, and he was killing the room.

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<v Speaker 3>What a lot of people say about these hosting gigs

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<v Speaker 3>is you have to find the person who appeals to

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<v Speaker 3>the audience at home and in the room. Very rare,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's tough sometimes if you get like I know

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Coy, I mean he now infamously bombed at the

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<v Speaker 3>Golden Globes this year. But what I heard some industry

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<v Speaker 3>people say is no one in the industry really knows him,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's a stand up comedian with an audience in America,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's not like well known and hasn't been in

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<v Speaker 3>movies and people don't know him as well in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, that's why Crystal and Steve Martin did

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<v Speaker 2>so well for so long.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>They need, They need to feel like if they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get roasted, it's at least a friendly face to

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<v Speaker 3>me it because there is going to be a little

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<v Speaker 3>poking fun. So like, look, even Kimmel last night, he

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<v Speaker 3>said something and seemingly I'm a stone and love the comment.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I think people John Mulaney might be striking

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<v Speaker 3>that right note of known to audiences at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>even if he is isn't as famous as Jimmy Kimmel,

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<v Speaker 3>but also known to the people in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>So I give Kimmel a B minus and I say,

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving on fresh Blood.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your grade for Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll give Kimmel a B plus and I'll give

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<v Speaker 4>the show overall an A minus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it was the most entertaining Oscars I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>in quite some time, because again, I liked the addition

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<v Speaker 1>of when they're announcing Best Actor, Best Actress and Supporting

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<v Speaker 1>actor categories, they brought up five formers, so we just

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<v Speaker 1>were inundated with star We saw stars, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of big stars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Margot Robbie wasn't nominated, but she's there, Greta

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<v Speaker 1>Gerwig was there, Emma Stone and al Pacino came out

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<v Speaker 1>in the most bizarre fashion, but he got a standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 1>And talk about an ainery, cranky old man that gives

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<v Speaker 1>zero f's in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I'll push back. I don't think he's angry.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was an old man movement. But he wasn't cranky.

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<v Speaker 3>I have interviewed al Pacino a couple of times. He's

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<v Speaker 3>very funny, he's very nice. I don't think he's cranky.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think he's like I agree about the I

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<v Speaker 3>don't give enough. He didn't even read the nominees.

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<v Speaker 4>He walks out, Okay, best picture.

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<v Speaker 3>My eyes see Oppenheimer, and everybody's like, is that the winner?

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<v Speaker 2>The winner? It was so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is the pin ultimate moment, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna have to do, much like maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for many jobs that are very important, we should have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of cognitive test. You should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>read three lines. The nominees are the Oscar goes too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have really two sentences you need to say, he

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<v Speaker 1>missed all of them. Out of the two sentences, he

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<v Speaker 1>said no.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's about an ability to read. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he just didn't care to read him. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have enough time. He's like, I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>He just stumbled out on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we've been watching three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>hours for we get out there and he's like mumbling

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<v Speaker 1>something and he's like literally.

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<v Speaker 4>And he has a newborn at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Must he's scariest part to think that De Niro and

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<v Speaker 1>Paccino sitting there with Okay, by the way, newborns.

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<v Speaker 4>Two good jokes from Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 3>One when Pacino came out, I think he said he'd

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<v Speaker 3>got a sitter for the night. And two and this

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<v Speaker 3>was like a joke and also just a moment of perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he said, Jody Foster and Robert de Niro

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<v Speaker 3>are both here tonight. Forty years ago they were nominated

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<v Speaker 3>for Taxi Driver and Jody Foster was old enough or

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<v Speaker 3>was the age to be Robert de Niro's daughter tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>She's twenty years older than his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty years too old to be his gold And Jody

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Yep, that was that was a good That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good.

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<v Speaker 3>Berth Well and I love you just pointed out That's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of what I was talking about earlier, is the

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<v Speaker 3>power of these awards shows. They need to lean into

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<v Speaker 3>bringing people together for special, unforgettable moments. People who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>always be together. You might see them on their social media,

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<v Speaker 3>but they wouldn't be with this other group and that

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<v Speaker 3>was great with the bringing out the former winners to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of give a special shout out to the current

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<v Speaker 3>nominees in the acting categories, like to see on stage

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<v Speaker 3>like Lupine and Yogo with like like Jamie Lee Curtis

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<v Speaker 3>and and with you know, or to see like Sally

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<v Speaker 3>Field along with like rig.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great to see Oh j Low we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen her in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>J Lobby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, these groups of women together, that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, whoa, there's a lot of talent on this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just good to see stars. What'd you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ryan gosling Ken song?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I died that. You know what I

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<v Speaker 3>loved about it? The breaking character that was maybe my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite part. He starts in the audience. Billie Eilish is

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<v Speaker 3>barely holding it together. Margot Robbie isn't holding it together.

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<v Speaker 4>She's laughing, and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just not taking it too seriously and having fun

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<v Speaker 3>with it like.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows he's On the one hand, he was playing it.

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<v Speaker 3>As seriously as he should have, like giving it as all,

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<v Speaker 3>but you could tell he was almost laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish ABC executives hadn't over hyped it. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>they had just they had really been hanging their hat

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<v Speaker 1>on this because I think they realized they failed miserably

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<v Speaker 1>by not giving Barbie its due this year, so they

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<v Speaker 1>really over I wish they had just said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>yes he's performing, or you'll but I was expecting something.

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<v Speaker 4>They were ceasing to it.

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<v Speaker 3>They were teasing it, they kept saying, and next up

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<v Speaker 3>the performance you've been waiting for Ryan Gosling is ket So.

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<v Speaker 1>ABC I think did a massive injustice to that. But

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<v Speaker 1>with that said, give Ryan Gosling so much credit to

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a singer. He's not a singer at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he even sing in La La Land at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this was interesting because so okay, he started in

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<v Speaker 3>The Mickey Mouse Club, right, so he actually sang as.

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>A kid, so did I. But we all go through period.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and he said that being Ken kind of

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<v Speaker 3>brought him back to those days, those like teenage performance days.

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<v Speaker 3>But he infamously didn't perform when La La Land a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago was nominated for Best Song he

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<v Speaker 3>sang in the movie, but he did not sing. I

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<v Speaker 3>think John Legend sang City of Stars at the Oscars,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was kind of like, wait, why isn't Gosling

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<v Speaker 3>singing the song?

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<v Speaker 4>So I sort of loved that he came back and

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<v Speaker 4>really did sing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that and to not be in a studio where

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're going to have mixing and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little help on your voice, this is live in front

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<v Speaker 1>of millions but also your peers, and he wasn't just singing.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>He then did this the performance where you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy had to start and the whole thing where he

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<v Speaker 1>was in character. I give him so much credit because

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<v Speaker 1>that's not just you know, a film performance that is

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<v Speaker 1>raw live TV. You are, in the words of John Cena,

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<v Speaker 1>bearing it all. I mean, you're really going for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I give him a hell of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>credit because he went for it and he nailed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a great performance.

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<v Speaker 3>He was doing an ode to gentlemen prefer blondes, the

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<v Speaker 3>Marilyn Monroe pink dress scene. I thought that was with

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<v Speaker 3>all dudes, and yeah, that was a great nod to

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<v Speaker 3>movies past too.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, Not like at the end when he jumped back

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>down in the audience and Greta Gerwig was singing Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Stone got out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so smart of him to give a nod

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<v Speaker 3>to those women and to kind of shake hands with

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<v Speaker 3>Emma his La La land co star. I think he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He hit all the right notes of who to nod to.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, everybody, I was seeing people some

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<v Speaker 3>of like our friends who are reporters, who were in

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<v Speaker 3>the room that night saying the whole theater was on

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<v Speaker 3>its feet for that, Like he really speaking of working

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd, like the Hollywood people were up and singing

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<v Speaker 3>with him and actually having fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think you felt that at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I was gonna nitpick, the only thing I

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<v Speaker 3>would have done was thrown in a couple more like

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<v Speaker 3>fun silly cameos of some kind, like he had Slash

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 3>playing with him at the end, which I didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>coming and didn't like totally understand, but great, But I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of would have. I don't know exactly who it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been. Maybe if you just picked another like

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<v Speaker 3>I would have liked it. If maybe they cut to

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<v Speaker 3>the audience and a few more other very like ken

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<v Speaker 3>like stars like a Chris Emmons or something. Right, they

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<v Speaker 3>were all there, Yeah, like they'd done like a like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they joined in just to like embrace their.

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<v Speaker 4>Tenness or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you had a bunch of big like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Could have been funny, but I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably Cooper's there.

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<v Speaker 4>It make them all kens.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things I noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>One, it kind of takes you out of it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit immediately online and this is the world we

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>live in of social media. You have the behind the

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>scenes right like people are like, this is what John

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Cena was doing, this is how he got you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Write those same reporters I just mentioned everybody video everybody in.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>The balcony posting behind the scenes videos, which kind of

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>takes you out of a little bit. Don't don't show

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>me how the magician's doing the trick. I wish they

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>would ban that, but you know, that's that's the world

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>we live in where all these reporters are up there,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>everyone's recording everything. And you know there's reports today that

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<v Speaker 1>dimm A Stone was you know, out with Florence Pugh

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar and she missed a bunch of awards

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and people It's like people are digging at things, and

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you know today Robert Downey Junior didn't pay ode to

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>who was presenting him the trophy and snubbed him, and

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it was just stop, stop, Like everybody's there trying to

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>dig for stories and to try and stir stuff up

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>when there's not that. None of those things existed. None

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of those things are big deals.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think people were making the amistone at the

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 4>bar thing negative. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I was written up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've saw several articles written on it today And

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just and it's silly.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Because there's this video for feeling bad. She's like, oh wait,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm missing it. I'm like, oh, she was just getting

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<v Speaker 3>a drink by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been to this award show. It is very

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>long when you're sitting there. I know Jimmy Kimmel was

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>making fun of it, and he probably shouldn't have, but

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it is long. And in the middle there is a

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>long stretch of awards that you're just you're not you've

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>never heard of. And so you go out to the bar.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And when you go to the bar, you should know,

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>or the bathroom they lock the doors. You cannot come

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>back in. So if Emma Stone is out there and

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the show starts again, even Emma Stone is locked out.

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>She can't just walk back in and try and make

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it back to that award. You have to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire next block to go another commercial break, and

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>then you can go back in, you know, so that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is going to be controversial

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 3>to say Hollywood doesn't like it when you start to.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 3>But there are a few awards we could lose. This

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 3>is no shade to these people. Best Animated Short. I

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 3>don't even know where to see these. These aren't in theaters.

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 3>No one watching at home, like really knows, like as

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 3>heard of or even Ken's like, how would you see?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you'd have to find it. The Best Animated Short,

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 4>where do I get that?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the Emmys.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Are Best Documentary Short. I'll say that too.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Best even best Documentary, Like here's the thing, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I love a doction.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Well here's well, here's the thing, and I do too.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>And but the Oscars, the telecast is to please the masses.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Look at what you're trying to do, so stop trying

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to please industry insiders by having them on your telecast.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>The Emmys are a good good point of this. There's

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>some great awards that are handed out at the Creative

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Arts Emmys. The night before they hand out a ton

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of Emmys. I'm not saying, don't celebrate these people. Don't

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>decorate them and tell them how great they are. Do

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to see it over three and a half hours.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>You could lose five awards and tighten that thing up

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and make it a great award show.

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I just think, know your audience and these people can't

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>even find this content, so how would this so.

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Give them oscars. I'm not saying don't celebrate them, just

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do it the night before. If you guys are so

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>impressed with each other and yourselves, that's fine.

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean last night there was a little bit where,

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<v Speaker 3>like we said, Emily Blent and Ryan Goslin kind of

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 3>gave a nod to the stunt community, and I thought,

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>you know what, that's an award. I would actually rather

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>see his best stunt oscar. Think about Tom Cruise jumping

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 3>off the Clibb would have won it right with the

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>motorcycle this year in Mission Impossible, like you know fast,

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 3>like there's an incredible stunt work and people at home

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<v Speaker 3>actually see that in movies and theaters.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing, I wanted a question for you has has

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>something changed in that award season has gotten so arduous

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and so long, and maybe so much social media or something.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people seem tired last night. Christopher Nolan

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>has been so charismatic and just crushing it all year.

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>When he got up for Oppenheimer, It's not like he

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was bad, but it wasn't like the guy I've been

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing at the bath and all.

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>These other speeches.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Robert Downey Junior. He has been on fire,

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and I still think he did great last night.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 2>He was fun, and he was.

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Jus naturally charismatic person.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Well just he's so easy to like, he's so likable.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But I just noticed everybody seemed a little lethargic last night.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a little fatigue.

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I just think, infamously, the Oscars is the end and

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>people are tired. I mean, when I was at et,

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 3>we would always be like, I hate to say it,

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>because the Oscars is the big one, but we'd be like,

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 3>it's the hardest carpet to do because you get there

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>and nope, everybody's like, there's no more promoting left for

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>them to be done. The votes are locked in, so

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>they don't really want to do interviews because they're tired,

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>they're burnt out, they're nervous, and like the interview doesn't

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>really get them anything anymore because.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 4>The campaigning is over, the votes are locked.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, And yeah, they've been doing interviews and making speeches

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 3>and getting dressed like all for months now and people

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 3>are tired. Yes, absolutely, Like you've also kind of you know,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>if you're on a winning streak, like Robert Donney Junior,

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you've probably made your best jokes, like you're a little

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.719
<v Speaker 3>what else am I going to say in this speech?

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think that the fatigue is very real.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I wish Christopher Nolan had mentioned Barbie.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 4>You made that point last night. You're so right.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I just thought he had a moment to say something

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>about Greta Gerwig It, even even if he didn't mention

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>grete for not being nominated. Just Barbenheimer, right, just just

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this phenomenon that he was a part of and

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>his movie was a part of.

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>And look, I get it.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It was his moment, so he thinked his people and

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it was all self indulgent, which I totally understand. He deserved,

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, he earned that, But I just thought, what

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a great moment to Margot Robbie sitting there, Greta Gerwig

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. Obviously, Oppenheimer A rising tide definitely lifted that

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>boat as well.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Why not in that moment, I.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Thought you were so right. I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 4>miss to not like, to not speak to people at home.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and as like, like a lot of people pointed out,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean the turned out the person giving him that

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 3>award last night because it was the anniversary.

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<v Speaker 4>Of was the list, Yes, Steven Spielberg.

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's talk about that moment, Steven Spielberg giving

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Christopher Nolan his first Best Director Oscar. A lot of

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>people were saying, Wow, this is kind of a passing

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 3>of the.

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Torch moment in the industry.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 3>And I thought Christopher Nolan in that moment had an

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to say something about, like just to the people

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 3>at home, like thank you for coming to see this movie,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>for coming back to the theaters, for having you know,

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 3>for making this movie a huge box office hit, and

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 3>like and yeah, and to acknowledge Barbenheimer and like the

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>fun and joy of the movies. He said something like

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 3>we're one hundred years into this business. Who knows where

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>it'll go from here, But I wanted something like a

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 3>bit happier and like like positive and hopeful, And I

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>agree it would have been It would have been a

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>cool thing to do because really the gals from Barbie,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 3>they were the ones who like, like remember they went

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 3>and bought tickets to Oppenheimer, like they sort of started

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>the lets support each other thing, and it would have

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>been nice for him to put a button on that.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 4>In a full circle way.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap this up, any significant misses. You know,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone goes back in history. It's like, Okay, here's here's missus,

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>here's what IFFs. As I as I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>categories last night, do you think there were any significant

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>miss I.

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 4>Would have liked Lily Gladstone to have won.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I said, I haven't seen either movie,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 3>but I just you know, for a Native American woman

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 3>to finally win, especially after the Academy's history, Like it

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>was really beautiful to see that song from Killers of

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 3>the Flower Moon.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>P over All the movie was pretty ignored as far

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>as far as winning last Night.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that movie in Maes show really didn't win

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 3>anything nominations wise.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Or Bradley Cooper Man, he really tried to give it

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>up in the press and tried to earn and then

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>all he did was get baked by taking his mom

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to another show.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I thought, you know, I thought that was

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 4>a miss. What about you?

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I liked Oppenheim again. I think the biggest miss was

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>just in Greta Gerwig not being nominated.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Would she have won?

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I think still, Christopher Nolan, that was such an epic

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>movie and it was so brilliant. You can't argue with

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Oppenheimer and Christopher Nolan. I just wish Greta Gerwig had

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten that recognition.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 2>She definitely should have.

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.959
<v Speaker 1>And I think Margot Robbie should have been nominated as well,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, should I think Emma Stone is a

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>very popular champion. I think she's a wonderful star to

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>have up and great, you know, I think critically acclaim performance. Yeah,

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>supporting actor, supporting actress.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Robert Donny Junior, and Davine. Yeah, I mean, I think.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the easiest lay up for all of us. We

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>all wanted it, we all needed it, and the Academy

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>actually gave it to us. So, you know what, kudos

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Academy for just giving us what we wanted

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>for once. Yeah, we all wanted to see Robert Donny

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Junior on stage.

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 4>I think we all right.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Greta not being nominated was the miss Everybody kind of

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 3>felt like this was Christopher Nolan getting a bit of

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 3>a career Oscar moment, and so it was going to

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>be his.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And Killian Murphy very deserving as well. You could have

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>gone to and you know, a couple of different directions.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I think some people thought Paul Giamani was going to

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 3>get the career Oscar for the Holdovers because he got

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>missed in Sideways and his speech would have been great.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 3>But no one's complaining about Killian Murphy right. A couple

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>other little wins. I did like seeing them. The writer

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 3>for American Fiction Coor Jefferson, what a great Hollywood story,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Like he was a TV writer. This is like the

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 3>first feature film he's written.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 4>And I thought he made such a good point.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>He got up there and said, look, he kind of

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 3>spoke to the industry and said, you know, just so

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 3>everybody knows, like the next Corsees he's out there, the

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 3>next two Ever's out there, instead of making one two

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 3>hundred million dollar movie because movies have gotten so expensive.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 4>It is crazy to me, like if you.

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Think about it, I mean anyone, but you got some

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 3>attention this year because it only costs like twenty million

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 3>dollars to make, Like movies didn't.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Used to cost.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>That's normal, that was normal.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, they're so expensive now.

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 3>And he said, instead of making one two hundred million

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 3>dollar movie, make ten twenty million dollar movies. And you

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>might be surprised how it goes because this was a

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>little movie that became nominated at the Oscars. And I

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>loved that he said that, and it was such a

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 3>good point. So that was a nice little moment and

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 3>I hope people listen to him. And then I also

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>loved like kind of speaking like Ryan Gosling, I'm not

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 3>taking himself too seriously. The moment where Kate McKinnon and

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>America Frera presented Best Documentary and they just did a

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 3>silly bit about Kate McKinnon thinking that Jurassic Park movies

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 3>were documentaries, and then cut to Stephen Spielberg in the audience,

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 3>and Kate McKinnon made a joke where she said, like,

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>it's go watch it because it's funny, But she ultimately

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 3>made a joke of wait, but to whom have I

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 3>been sending my tasteful.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 4>Nudes and Steve.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 3>They cut to Stephen Spielberg and he pointed himself, and

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I just thought, I love this man for like just

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 3>have fun.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's what it's about. The movies are supposed

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 4>to be about fun.

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Entertainment, yes, connection, yes, statement making, but like a little

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 3>fun too.

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I loved the audience was set perfectly. And this

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>is silly, but the director whoever directed last Night, had

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody staged perfectly. You had Scorsese, Spielberg, and Christopher Nolan

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.479
<v Speaker 1>all lined up. When you took a shot of one,

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you saw three geniuses, three legends. When you went over

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to Margot Robbie who was sitting behind, but you know,

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>there was Emily Blunt and there was Ryan Gosling. So

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>up front was Robert Downey Junior, and then you saw

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Cooper. They stacked the seat, they stacked the seats well,

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and they were there and it was maybe it was

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>lit better, but I felt like I saw stars last

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>night when we went to the audience shots, and that

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>was well done.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't the Golden globes where you were like, or

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 3>was it the maybe I remember thinking.

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Actually Lobs was a Disaster of Us story the Globes

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 4>in the Emmys.

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 3>The Globes was like the tightest they've ever packed that

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 3>room this year with the tables, no one could walk

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 3>around them. And then at the Emmys the audience kept

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 3>being empty, Like I was like, where is everyone? So

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 3>you're right the Oscars, maybe they took note. They stacked

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 3>that room. There was never an empty seat and all

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 3>the stars were together.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I really thought, yeah, maybe.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they had a new director this

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>year or anew but like just production wise, it was

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 3>very well done.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It felt fresh, it felt good. It felt good because

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we went back to the movies this year and then

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>we celebrated movies we saw, so overall, I give it

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>high marks.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Again.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>When the ratings come out today, my guess is they're

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be up ten to twenty percent, as they

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>should be because the movies were up ten to twenty percent.

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, and because the Big Barbie and Oppenheimer. I mean truly,

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I think it's Barbenheimer came to a close at the

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Oscars last night. I'll see it again. Oppenheimer was the

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 3>first box office hit in twenty years to win Best Picture. Academy.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Take note, if the ratings are up. People want to

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 3>watch a show about the movies they went to see.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 2>We in this episode with question, oh, who won the night?

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Who won the night? Oh, I wish you'd prepped me

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.760
<v Speaker 4>for this. You have an answer going thinking.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Award season obviously, Oppenheimer at Christopher Nolan. But I'm gonna

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>go bizarrely, I think Ryan Gosling.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I know he's a megastar, but he's just so. He's

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he's shown another side of himself, and I think he's

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>endeared himself to not only industry, but also to us,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the fans and the viewers as a just a real

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>guy and a funny guy that'll poke fun at himself.

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>And I think Ryan Gosling won.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 4>It was a big career booster moment for him. This

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 4>this whole thing. Yeah, I mean I don't. By the way,

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people were like, where's his wife, Ava Mendez?

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the tweets she sent out immediately it

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>was great about get home and put the kids to bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, so did you think it was great?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I thought it was cute that she said that

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminded me of what was the last oh, when

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Reynolds was on and Blake Lively, yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted at him about like, you know, when he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, off doing his thing, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's getting on a backlash for it because people

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<v Speaker 3>are like, wow, well, first of all, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people are saying she's trying to do Ryan Reynolds Blake

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<v Speaker 3>Lively but not succeeding. And then a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are like, well, why weren't you just there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They've never been a couple to even though they met

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<v Speaker 3>on a movie set, they've never been a couple to

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<v Speaker 3>do red carpets together. I think she's just pulled back,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's her personal choice. I will admit, maybe selfishly,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have liked to see her there last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how often your partner performs at the Oscars,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would have I would have gone. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have all. I mean, I felt like it would have

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<v Speaker 3>been cool to see her there last night. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why she wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I guess in the industry, I also see

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<v Speaker 1>this as a work night, and you know, especially for Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're not going to be hanging with him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be, you know, so I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>give her a little grace and I know that she's

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<v Speaker 1>home watching the kids or whatever. So I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it both ways, but it didn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think, oh, but yeah, thank you. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever perform at the Oscars, you'll be I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there, and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think Ryan Gosling won the night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Ryan Gosling wins the night. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't win an oscar. No he didn't, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still think he won the night.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm going to say that Gosh, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you know, I think movies won the night. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that for the first time in a while, like

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<v Speaker 3>I've said, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The industry actually won.

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<v Speaker 3>The movies were actually the memorable from the Night before Tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>The last ten years, I can't really name that many

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<v Speaker 3>of the Best Picture winners, but I will remember that

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<v Speaker 3>you're Oppenheimer won and that Barbie was up for a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll remember Barbenheimer, and I hope that next year

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<v Speaker 3>the Oscars do the same.

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