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Speaker 1: today talk about a movie I just watts on Lifetime,

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Speaker 1: you don't have all your costs and know what you're

427
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna spend, you can easily use your shirt. So I

428
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: think most importantly, um, you need to get someone in

429
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: your life that can mentor you in the space that

430
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: you're in because they can help you see those unforeseen

431
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: costs you don't know about. So that was one of

432
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: the things I did early on. M got a mentor

433
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: that was actually in the hair care industry, and he

434
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: worked for one of the big consumer product good companies,

435
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: and he helped me a lot. So I was able

436
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: to number one save in areas because he connected me

437
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: to different people in his world. But he was also

438
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: able to show me what to expect and what I

439
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: expect and help me my budgeting. So that that's very critical,

440
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: especially as you start up. You can't have it, as

441
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: they said, you can't have these this inflated sense. So

442
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: I'll make I'll make a dollar, I keep a dollar

443
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: keep because it has to be giving up into a

444
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. How big is your company right

445
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: now as far as staff wise, Well, we have over

446
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: two Curls ambassadors um and then we all over the

447
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: US and some international, and then we have twenty and

448
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: our local office, you know, we're here in Dallas, Texas,

449
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: and that's really really amazing. So so in two thousand

450
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: two you started the company. But prior to that, what

451
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: was the frustration of just having natural hair and not

452
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: having any products to deal with it before you start.

453
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Before you launched a brand called Curls, which is a

454
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: great name by the way, right, well that was back before.

455
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of options. I mean

456
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: the ethnic aisle back then was uh we we had

457
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: Jerry co products, relaxers, hair grease like nothing. I really

458
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: wanted Jerry Carol products that you're going away back now. Yeah,

459
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: they were still in the market and you can actually

460
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: still find something today, believe it or not. But yeah,

461
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: all the thing about the soften and carefree curl and yeah,

462
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: so I mean that's why have to use for a while,

463
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, but it was so greasy and unnatural, but

464
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Speaker 1: then you would. But then when we look through the

465
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: journey of Masha Dillinger, uh, the whole concept of you know,

466
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: but you are a person, just a basic person because

467
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: you you are a former marketing executive that fortunate companies,

468
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: So you always had that ability to you know, plan

469
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: to be able to you know, put an idea concept

470
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: moving forward because marketing was your natural background. So correct.

471
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: So so I'm assuming that you started putting the plans

472
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: in place for Curls while you were still at your

473
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: full time job. That is correct. I had to. I

474
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: always always always mentor and subject. When I mentor, I

475
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: suggest um and and recommend that you keep your day

476
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: job until your side hustle becomes your main hustle and

477
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: you can no longer do both, so because you have

478
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: to keep money, and people want to just quit their

479
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: jobs and go in all you know before, and I

480
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's great, eats but awesome and a

481
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of faith, but it's not practical in some sense,

482
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: especially if you have responsibilities like um then you and

483
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: I have with a mother. So I always suggest doing

484
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: both until you can't do both anymore, and you have

485
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: a long history of success in the business that shows

486
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: you can actually maintain or lift off of that. And

487
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: still we invest back in the company, because if you're

488
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: just living on the salary but can't reinvest anything back

489
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: into the company, then that obviously will keep you sale

490
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: a segment right in the hair and later. But I know,

491
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: launching two thousand two curls a line of organic hair

492
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: care products for every type of curl at every at

493
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: any age, and you can never look back because of

494
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: the opportunities that is presented, not only for the people

495
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: who have been trying to find natural hair care products,

496
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: but also for people who have to find a comfort zone,

497
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: and also has changed the way people can come to work.

498
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Now we've we've seen such a movement in natural hair care,

499
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: you know, because at times, you know, people are fighting

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Speaker 1: their right. Now in Joel Larger, they're passing laws that

501
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: you can't discriminate based on hair anymore. And she's not

502
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: ridiculous that we have to have a law to say that,

503
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Like what goes out of my head, I have to

504
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: be protecting against discrimination the way it grows naturally. That's

505
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: just well when we can get upset about it. But

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00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I think that I also know that you know, because

507
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you have products like yours that they make the carrying

508
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: of the hair be the management management, making it more

509
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: manageable and more and more and more, you know, because

510
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: we are with the The thing about life is that

511
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: people who don't understand will discriminate. People who can't relate

512
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: with discriminate. And so when I when I I commend

513
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: a company like yours, I can be frustrated by the

514
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: way the system reacts to us. And I have to

515
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: react to us. I mean people of color, or people

516
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: are who are different, or people talk different or have

517
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: gender differences. But I also know that you have to

518
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: work within the system to be of your chief success.

519
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: And that's where your company is doing. And I have

520
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, you were a visionary. This

521
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: is two thousand two, and I know out you know

522
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: how popular. You know, we have conventions now that are

523
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: just natural hair care conventions, and so that didn't happen

524
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand two. My issue you have to say,

525
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: you know you you you you you, you created a

526
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: movement and and and I'm saying that, you know, sometimes

527
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: people like you who are so talented, who so just

528
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: geared to being successful. This is a deep breath moment. Hey,

529
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: my dear, thank you, thank you, thank you for sitting down,

530
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, thank you for sitting down, thank you for

531
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: avoiding the naysayers. Thank you for saying, hey, I can

532
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: leave this company. I can. I know it's not a

533
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: clear plan for success because I always talking about people

534
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: who are tied to fear. You know, there's so many

535
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: people out there doing jobs and and that they don't

536
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: want to do because they're afraid if they get out

537
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: there they lose that that conference zone, that that consistent check,

538
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: and that consistent opportunity, But you, my friend, decided to Hey,

539
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: I could do more, I could be better. I could

540
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: be I can. I have a vision here. And to

541
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: make that transition to from corporate to everyday entrepreneur was

542
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: not an easy one. Can you explain that to our listeners? Yeah,

543
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: we definitely was easy. But what in life that worth

544
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: anything is easy? I don't think anything is and so

545
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: um being broke is that easy? No? Use your heart.

546
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: You use your heart. We can choose what we want

547
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: to do in our lives. We have the choice. And

548
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I left Corporate America because I was facing corporacism, but

549
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: shortened my my ability to get to the top. I

550
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: really wanted to go to the top quickly, and they

551
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: really cut that in half of like, Okay, no, we

552
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: don't want to do we're not looking to promote you.

553
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: We're not looking to grow you. You're gonna be in

554
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: this position. People that were hired after me got promotive

555
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: before me. Then I got a racist manager who was

556
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: looking to get rid of me. I realized, Okay, this

557
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: is just not for me. I don't have the patients

558
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: for this. Someone that did dictate my life and that

559
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: is why I'm here. Who I am today, but I

560
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: want to say that, um, anything that's worth having is

561
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: going to be hard, and so I chose this hard

562
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: now that whole natural, natural instinct of marketing and branding

563
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: and getting your product out there. Tell us how they

564
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: can get your products well almost anywhere. So targets you

565
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: can find Curls the target near you, sally Mark, curl Biz,

566
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: or even be supply stores. Do you ever go in there?

567
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: You know, like I teached yearly on you know, I

568
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: walked into that, you know, because I shopped at Walgraint,

569
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: I shopped at CVS a lot and stuff like that.

570
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just going to get into medicine and the

571
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: farmer's department. And and I walked by and I see

572
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: your product and not just you know, does it still

573
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: just you look at it and go, wow, this is mine?

574
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Did you? Does that still strike you as an amazing

575
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: moment in your life? You know that I get that

576
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: question sometimes and and you know, I'm a little bit

577
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: embarrassfied with the response, but it's really true. I don't

578
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: stop to smell the roads, but when I see the

579
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: products on the sholf, I don't go, oh my god,

580
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: that's so amazing. Umbo, which I should buy some more.

581
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: I think about what I have to still do we

582
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: have to welcome with them, do that and oh my god,

583
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna figure this that and so it's

584
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: constantly a moving target and so I do need to

585
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: stop snow the roses and then appreciate that. But honestly,

586
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: I am just moving and moving and moving. Well do

587
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: do do you have these testimonies where people are talking

588
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: about how, you know, growing their hair are the loss

589
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: of hair losses affects there, you know, just affects their dignity,

590
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: affects there are their confidence and and how this this, this, this,

591
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: this process is going to change their life, always affecting

592
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: their life in such a positive manner, going public aiding, socializing.

593
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you have that part of the campaign as well? Well,

594
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: we we do. We highlight those when whenever we when

595
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: we get them in. But there are a lot of

596
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: women obviously who deal with alopecia, women who deal with

597
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: hair loss from hormonal changes, especially post pregnancy, um all

598
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: the different medication, you know, health issues beyond just aging,

599
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, there are other things that can cause hair

600
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: growth issues and lack of self esteem. Our our hairs

601
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: are kind of glory. So yes, when whenever we get

602
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: those who, definitely highlight them, right, because I think that's

603
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: important because that's natural, that's a that's the honest because

604
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: we are in the business to make money. We are

605
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: in the business to make money. But when you when

606
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: you create something to create a format that also changes

607
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: lives and makes people give some confidence and make them

608
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: feel positive about how they opened the front door and

609
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: how people look at them, I think that needs to

610
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: also be highlighted. And that's what you're doing with the

611
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: growing Slate campaign. Correct, yes, yes, fully cool. Well, there

612
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: was something I wanted to bring up as well. All

613
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: it was in eighteen Uh you launched his Black Girls

614
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Making Millions academy. Uh huh yeah, you know that. That

615
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: was to educate an uplift aspiring female entrepreneurs. Why and um,

616
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: what can I do to help promote that? Well, well,

617
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: thank you because soon as we launched the next one,

618
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: we'll definitely a circle back, so you can help promote it.

619
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: But what we launched that after I wrapped my show

620
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: on Own Mind Your Business, Mohitia, and we're helping women's

621
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: color um success and so Geo Graphic got lots of

622
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: requests to do one on one mentorship, which I obviously

623
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't have the time to do. Everyone individually credit this

624
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: academy to help women of color that are in different

625
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: phases of entrepreneur path. UM started up to in a

626
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: business already but it and then nose the funding. We

627
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: had three different tracks and we credit a path to them,

628
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: connected them with the resources. Had a lot of breakout

629
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: sessions UM workshop conferences we had and we had it

630
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: was amazing, It was amazing. UM. We sold out. We

631
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: turned the switch on and told out and take it

632
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. So we knew that that was definitely

633
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: something that was gonna be UM impactful. And she's the

634
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: founder CEO of curls Uh Growing Slave Campaign And my friend,

635
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: you owe me a lot of but put you to

636
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: work as usual when you come on Money Making Conversation,

637
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: because the work I do for you is about, you know,

638
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: promoting your brand because you're such a positive, you're such

639
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: a role model, you're such a leader in the industry

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Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning, a Nuble, a cp Image Award winning actor,

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Speaker 1: cowboy and rodeo performer. That's the part I like the most.

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Speaker 1: His prolific career spans over fifty years, beginning as a

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Speaker 1: teenager acting in the New York on Broadway from Cooley High,

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Speaker 1: Different World, The Wire, Loved Him in The Wire, Fargo

679
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Speaker 1: to the the Franklin Projects. There's No stopping my man.

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Speaker 1: He's active in the community, in the entertainment game, currently

681
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Speaker 1: appearing in the Netflix film Justine, the Warner Brothers film

682
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Speaker 1: The Way Back. He is on the show to talk

683
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Speaker 1: about his awesome career, new projects, my favorite camp getting up.

684
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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. Glenn Terman. Hey, how

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Speaker 1: you doing pretty good? My friend? I left that h

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Speaker 1: Off dinner. There you go, breath that brother, Just just

687
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Speaker 1: just kick that little that little math degree after got

688
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Speaker 1: the window there. And you know when when you look

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: at a guy like you that has done so many

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Speaker 1: rememberable characters. So I'm gonna say this, remember especially we

691
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Speaker 1: go back to Cooley guy. That's like the classic, classic,

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Speaker 1: classic black movie in the era when Black Exports Station

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Speaker 1: was dominating the movie screens back then, Can you summon

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Speaker 1: to your career before we really get into it, because

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Speaker 1: I really want people, you know, we have to say

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Speaker 1: you are a legend. You are a person that inspired

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Speaker 1: your inspiration. Um, you're a uh you have a guy

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Speaker 1: who sat down to say I can make a career

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Speaker 1: out of this, and you have made a career out

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Speaker 1: of it. Tell us about your your your your take

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Speaker 1: on your career. And we know it's not done. First

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Speaker 1: of all, it's not an obituary, so but it is

703
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Speaker 1: an amazing journey. It is an amazing journey. Well I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you first of all, thank you for for all

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Speaker 1: the kind words, uh that you used to describe me.

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Speaker 1: And uh the second thing is that all of the

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Speaker 1: listening to you uh point out those those things, uh

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Speaker 1: made me stay to myself. I never thought or tried

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Speaker 1: to achieve any of those accolades that you just heaped

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Speaker 1: upon me. I was I'm just a young kid from Holland,

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Speaker 1: New York who had an opportunity to to do something

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Speaker 1: and be a part of something that was extraordinary area.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I went seeking seeking it. It sort

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Speaker 1: of found me. And uh, you know, I was blessed

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Speaker 1: to have people around me who continued to nourish me

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Speaker 1: once they saw that I had a talent um. I

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Speaker 1: kind of took things for granted, you know, as most

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Speaker 1: young people will so so uh you know, mentors kept

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Speaker 1: me on the path, and uh, you know, from from

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Speaker 1: people in in high school, which is what I went

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Speaker 1: to with the high school Performing Arts. You know, remember

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Speaker 1: the movie Fame that was yeah, that's that was actually

723
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Speaker 1: the year that they're talking about in that movie is

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Speaker 1: the year that uh my graduating year. And uh so

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Speaker 1: I knew a lot of the characters and there was

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Speaker 1: a wonderful teacher there by the name of Vannette Carroll,

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Speaker 1: who uh kept me in school and and focused and

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Speaker 1: uh and guided me. And they really brought me to California.

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Speaker 1: Nick Carroll did too, forming a play here and here's

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Speaker 1: where I stayed. But to your point, my career has

731
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Speaker 1: has been really kind of, uh just a blessing, you know,

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Speaker 1: because so much has happened that I never would have

733
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Speaker 1: thought would have happened. I just look at myself as

734
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Speaker 1: a as a blue collar actor, you know, just get

735
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Speaker 1: my lunch bucket, I get my lunch bucket, I get

736
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Speaker 1: a call and go to work. I go to work,

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Speaker 1: I do my job, I come home, you know that

738
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Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know what I'm saying. But the

739
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Speaker 1: all the accolades and other things that come with it

740
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Speaker 1: were like, wow, this comes with with doing what you love,

741
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Speaker 1: you know. Uh So, and I think that's probably the

742
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Speaker 1: main ingredient, is that I love doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I still do. Well. That's that's the impression I've always gotten,

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Speaker 1: you know, from every project I've seen. One of my

745
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Speaker 1: favorites was The House of Lives and uh, you know,

746
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Speaker 1: when you played the sexy grandfather your father and you know,

747
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Speaker 1: with the young with the young lady. I'm just I'm

748
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Speaker 1: feeling you on that role. Also lines with cheat and

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Speaker 1: Lawrenz Larens his character man made mad so many times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that was the French benefits of this, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting the work of opposite beautiful to young ladies like

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Speaker 1: like that and uh have a great time with friends,

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Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence Larenz Tate, you know, and I go

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Speaker 1: way back to uh go back to inkwell absolutely though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that that that was really interesting when I

756
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Speaker 1: when I when I talk about these you know, you're

757
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Speaker 1: you know, I always always looked at it. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I did stand up comedy. I'm an excellent writer. Man

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00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: is great talent and can you do it well? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Do it? Do it all well, thank you. But But

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Speaker 1: when I when I when I look at the talent

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Speaker 1: like you, let's just let's talk about you know, I

763
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Speaker 1: was joking it because I really did. Whenever I see you,

764
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Speaker 1: you you make me smile, Glenn, And that's that's something,

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Speaker 1: you know, When I see you make me smile. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I watched the movie Justine, which is running right

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Speaker 1: now on Netflix, you make me smile with your character

768
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: when you when you when you want to meet with

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Speaker 1: the with the therapists, and then you closed the door,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, is he acting? You know, he's

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Speaker 1: just being normal, because this is pretty normal to me

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. And and when you when you get

773
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Speaker 1: that good and when you get that good, it seems

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Speaker 1: like these motions are just everyday life motions that it

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Speaker 1: should you're function in life. And so that's what happened

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Speaker 1: when I when when I loved you in the Wire,

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Speaker 1: which was good, such a such a fascinating, uh cultural story,

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Speaker 1: and he was right there playing a realistic character that

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Speaker 1: I've had sympathy for that um maybe mad sometimes, but

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Speaker 1: but but it isn't that the role of an actor

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Speaker 1: to protue to to pull these emotions out of an audience. Yes,

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00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: it is. That's that's our job, you know. That's that's

783
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Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be able to hold up a

784
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Speaker 1: mirror so that you can see yourself as well as

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Speaker 1: others that you know in the characters that we play,

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Speaker 1: you know. And uh so that's that's what we get

787
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: paid to do. And that's a that's a wonderful thing.

788
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Speaker 1: And then, like I said, I wanted to go back

789
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Speaker 1: to the House of Lives, because when you're around talented people,

790
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Speaker 1: it kind of does. It doesn't force you or cause

791
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Speaker 1: you to step your game up, and not saying that

792
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Speaker 1: you never you don't step up your game. You know

793
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not alway don't want to step

794
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Speaker 1: but you're all done you And I'll tell man, it

795
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Speaker 1: was some times. It was sometimes, man, that lore is

796
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Speaker 1: a character. Liver is take character. I was so mad

797
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Speaker 1: and you when you take up for him. Serious Larenz

798
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Speaker 1: is just sitting over there watching TV all day. Don't

799
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Speaker 1: want Cactus out there compete with these people. And then

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Speaker 1: the dad coming out saw saying, up with the young

801
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Speaker 1: Philly in the bedroom. Uh uh, you know, coming now,

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Speaker 1: your brother trying, he trying, didn't try, did try, but

803
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Speaker 1: but but ain't that the way it is? I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you, my mama, baby, you gotta cut the cars.

805
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Speaker 1: Don't you give one of the cars to your sister?

806
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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, okay, just because they had a couple of

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Speaker 1: they don't use Now they used cars. Now your boy

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Speaker 1: wasn't bawling at the time, all right, but they were

809
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Speaker 1: my car. My mama comes over to me, well, you

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Speaker 1: got two cars don't you get one to your sister? Okay,

811
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Speaker 1: you need a car? Need she need a car? Need

812
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Speaker 1: a car? So I can find that moment relatable because

813
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Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense to me. And guess what

814
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Speaker 1: she did. She wrecked it. It was it was a napty.

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Speaker 1: He sent it to Green and Grimbling with no radio.

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Speaker 1: Still but it still still her because I can tell

817
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Speaker 1: you it's green, I can tell you it's no radio,

818
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you it was Naty sending too.

819
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Speaker 1: I paid nine hundred dollars for that cat. My sister

820
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Speaker 1: went out there wrecked it. I come home and see

821
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Speaker 1: on the sofa and she in the sofa next to

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Speaker 1: my mom. Baby, your mama, Your mama going to say

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Speaker 1: with you, baby, I got something I want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: And So when I was going through that, when I

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Speaker 1: was looking, when I whenever I saw you interact between

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Speaker 1: them two, I just thought back to my mom. I said, boy,

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Speaker 1: if I didn't heard this character in real life story

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Speaker 1: work for somebody who's trapling right right right. But see,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's that's uh, the pleasure of working

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Speaker 1: with people who are good at the job. We have

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Speaker 1: great writers on that show. Lives, you know, and you

832
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Speaker 1: know you have to step your game up. You're working

833
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Speaker 1: with Don Cheeta, you gotta step your game and you

834
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Speaker 1: got to bring your a game every day. Go down

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Speaker 1: as a beast. He's a beast. He's a beast as

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Speaker 1: well as as well as they were in States. But

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Speaker 1: the people the thing that's wonderful, uh with that. I

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Speaker 1: love it that I've been able to work with wonderful,

839
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Speaker 1: wonderful people. You know. I started working within the business

840
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Speaker 1: working with the top of the line with Sydney Portier

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Speaker 1: and Bob d Lucas, you know, vision production of a

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Speaker 1: Raising the Sun on Broadway. So that's where I started.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm always uh looking to work with

844
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Speaker 1: the best that I can work with, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they bring the stout of you. You know. The cast

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Speaker 1: of the Wine was fantastic, was amazing. Everybody in that

847
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Speaker 1: cast was just you know, it's always amazing that you know,

848
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Speaker 1: we all know that. If you don't know this interest Elba.

849
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Speaker 1: He came from the line. He made he made a

850
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: drug dealer likable, He made a drug dealer popular. He

851
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: made a drug dealer who who when he died, we

852
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: was mad. Yeah, come on, get up, Get up, man,

853
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: My wife screamed so loud. I don't know. I love

854
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: talking to you, man, It's like talking to my uncle

855
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Jail either. Were just laughing and talking to just sharing

856
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: stories because because he here's a deal with because you know,

857
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: he got shot on and that high rise right there

858
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: was under construction, and so so when he got shot,

859
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm talking about interest Capital. You know when you got

860
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: shot shrinker Bell, I don't remember name. Stringer Bell was

861
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: his character. I kept saying, he gotta get up. No,

862
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: nobody was ready. America was not ready for him to

863
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: be dead because because in the way the character was built. Okay,

864
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: you know he was a drug dealer, but he wanted

865
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: to be more. You know, he educated himself, you know,

866
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: and and that's where that's when I when when when

867
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: you talk about not only here, there's just a lot

868
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of fantastic people who are working busily working today off

869
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: of that series The Wife. That's the amazing thing about

870
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: that series. But I wanted to I wantn't to step

871
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: back a little bit here, Glenn and get into him. Yeah,

872
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: where were you born Glenn? And married in Manhattan? In Manhattan.

873
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to this, Uh, this rodeo cowboy thinkers.

874
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: They told me about that. J J said, you know

875
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: he does, he has a rodeo. Yeah, I'm with the

876
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Bill Picking Rodeo. Lupaside, who was the founder of the

877
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: Bill Picking Rodeo, asked me and to be a part

878
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: of it. Uh that many years ago. And I found

879
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: a home there and that's a family and been there

880
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: ever since. Okay, see not just stop him say I

881
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: love when people like you start talking, because you miss

882
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: all of them steps. You know, hallm bar hallo. Now

883
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: he's in Los Angeles here, rodeo king. Because see that

884
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: never asked me to be the Grand Marshal Ambassador any rodeo.

885
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: So that means that you have to have had a

886
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: skill set, a showcase, a moment on a horse, a

887
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: rope or something. So tell us how did you develop

888
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: that skill and how did you get into horses? And

889
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get over to the camp. Gette up. Okay, Well,

890
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, the true answer is that's

891
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: the true answer. Yeah, the truth is it's in my blood.

892
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: But like it's in so many of us, of of

893
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: of people of colors blood. You know, we don't associate

894
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: ourselves with that kind of lifestyle. But you know, we

895
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: were We came over from Africa, where you know, there

896
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: were great horsemen there, and here my grand grand my

897
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: grandfather whom I didn't even know. On my father's side,

898
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: I didn't I never met him. He was dead before

899
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: I was born. Uh. He was a farmer and had

900
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: horses and mules and all that. So my daddy grew

901
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: up raised, you know, raised around that kind of life.

902
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: And my daddy moved from from Georgia to Chicago and

903
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: New York to get away from that lifestyle. Now, like

904
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: so many of us, you know, especially back in the day,

905
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised as a young man with my father around,

906
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: you know. So I went in this direction on my

907
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: own of buying horses or riding horses and getting into

908
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the land and buying land. And once I got the California,

909
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: coming from a small, small, three bedroom, a one bedroom

910
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: apartment in New York City, uh to uh ranch in

911
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. Thank God for the blessing. Uh. But

912
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know where that love of the land and

913
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the earth came from where, But I was. I was

914
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: drawn to it. I was always drawn to it, even

915
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: when I was living in the New York I spent

916
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Central Park. I go to

917
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Central Park and clean the stalls at the horse stable

918
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: in Central Park in order to ride the horse for free.

919
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: Let me, Mr, if you let me clean that stall. Uh,

920
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I'll clean that stall if you let me ride your horse.

921
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: And I shovel horse. And he said, go ahead do that.

922
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: You know. That's how badly I wanted to do that.

923
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: And once I got the Alifornia and then started, you know,

924
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: in the business, and the business was kind to me

925
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: enough to to, uh, to to put some duccets in

926
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: my pocket that I could do something with in terms

927
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: of fulfilling some dreams. That became a part of one

928
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: of the dreams I wanted to fulfill, you know. And

929
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: so then I little did I know that that desire

930
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: was in my DNA. You see what I'm saying. So

931
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: that's the true answer, you know, that's the that's that's

932
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: the real ass, that's an honest ass, that's the gift.

933
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: That's the passion that I would always tell people who

934
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: come on the show, people who are listening to the show,

935
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: is that we deny ourself a lot of dreams and

936
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: a lot of great moments because we go, uh, that

937
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: ain't me or what would people think about if I

938
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: started doing that? And that's why, you know, you know,

939
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I joke and I'd laugh about but the whole rodeo thing.

940
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: But man, I'm in awe that you know that you're

941
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: doing that in the world where can be so superficial.

942
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: And then not only Dad, but you tell us about

943
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: your camp getee Up because I'm sure it's tied to

944
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: the horse environment, the rodeo lifestyle, the outdoor lifestyle the

945
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: young people need to be familiar with. Because my daughter,

946
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: she's twenty two, she's not gonna go anywhere without her

947
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: phone and she she walks to YouTube. She got screen

948
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: on the wall. She's looking at her phone. So that

949
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even need anything. So tell us about that experience

950
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: and what is what is the purpose of Camp getee Up. Well,

951
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: it's one of the things growing up and growing up

952
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: in New York and being from home and uh, you know,

953
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of distractions back in the back in

954
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: the you're set in the city, and uh, it was

955
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: no different than any other young teenager ready to get

956
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: him getting into some of that mess that was going on,

957
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, and my mother and an attempt to my mother,

958
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: an attempt to steer me away from the wrong elements,

959
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: sent my butt to camp one summer set me kicking

960
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: and screaming, you know I want to go because I

961
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: knew that that's that's summer. I had big plans to

962
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: get my first jade. They used to call that. You

963
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: used to get three j j D cause juvel out

964
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: the Linqui cards back in the day. You know if

965
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: you got if you got your third juven out of

966
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: Linquent card, then you they were gonna send you to

967
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: the reformatory. Absolutely. But and so I was working on

968
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: getting my first one, and that summer I knew I

969
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: was gonna get that first time. I love your story telling,

970
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: you need to see you need to the podcast stories

971
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: by and I knew I was gonna get that card.

972
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: All of us, me and my boys was working on that.

973
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: A couple of more already had two or three because

974
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: but I knew I was gonna get mine, and my

975
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: mother mustn't do it too. And she sent me to

976
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: this thing on camp. And I got the camp, getting

977
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: the wild outdoors and all that and the campfires and

978
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: all the fun that was having a lake and the

979
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: canoeing and all that stuff, and I loved it. I said, down, God,

980
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: this is great. I told my mom, boy, I want

981
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: to go back next year. She said, well, you keep

982
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: your in school, stop playing hooky, get your grades up

983
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: in YadA YadA YadA, and then I'll send you back

984
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: next year. So the dog going that she found her

985
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: hook for me, you know, right, you know what I meant. Shoot,

986
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, so I found the reason. I found a

987
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: ready to reason to say no to the rest of

988
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: the stuff that you know, the guys is getting ready

989
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: to get into. Come on, man, let's go do this.

990
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: You don't have to go and uh no, man, I

991
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: can't mess this up. I got a plans I wanted to. Well,

992
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: I to myself later, I said, well, let that work

993
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: for me. That might work for some of these little

994
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: knocking heads out here, you know, in the street. And

995
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: I've been blessed. I've been blessed to to, you know,

996
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: make some of my dreams come true. My wife and

997
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: I have gotten who was the camper also, by uh

998
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: she grew up going to camps out here in California,

999
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: so she understood the value of her camp and the outdoors.

1000
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: And uh so when I got my piece of land,

1001
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, one of the things we

1002
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: can do with this place is provide a space for

1003
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: kids to see something different to stars, you know, ride horses,

1004
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, swimming upon you know, take hikes and so

1005
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: on and so forth in door stuff that you do

1006
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: at camp. Just get away for a breather, Uh, get

1007
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: away from the city. And I promised. What happened was

1008
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: I promised Coretta Scott King that that's what I was

1009
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: going to do with it. Was started camp because this

1010
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: was in ninety two and we just had to Rodney

1011
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: King's civil unrest and Coretta Scott King had called a

1012
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of the community leaders into UH conference in Atlanta

1013
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: and asked us what did we think we could do

1014
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: to help heal the city and some of the unrest.

1015
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: And that was my contribution. My wife and I as contribution,

1016
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: came up with it on the spot. And uh, my

1017
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: wife said, how are we gonna do this? You know?

1018
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: And I said, I don't know. But I was doing

1019
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: a Different World at the time of the series of

1020
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Different World and so I went, I asked Sinbad, and

1021
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I asked Don Lewis and Jasmine and Cadem I said, hey,

1022
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: y'all chip in some books. I'm going to try and

1023
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: do something up at the ranch. And they did, and uh,

1024
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: we were able to start to start a camping that

1025
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: was twenty seven years. Congratulations that you know, that's a

1026
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: difference maker of what you do. And then people when

1027
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: you called on your friends and you has a hot show,

1028
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: a different world, and you know that story has never

1029
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: been told and on my show, and it needs to

1030
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: be told. The stories like that need to be told

1031
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: because all you know, celebrities are sports figures. All you

1032
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: hear about is the next movie. All you hear about

1033
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: is the next score, the next touchdown, the next championship.

1034
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 1: But it's what you do in the community, the paying

1035
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: it forward such a big difference. And that's why I

1036
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure people understood, you know what you're

1037
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: doing camp Thank you. Let me tell you something. You know.

1038
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, we've been having a great

1039
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: time and and and we're all we're gonna have a

1040
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: great time because guess what, I'm gonna admire of your talents.

1041
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: I admire your gifts. I'm a person has been seeing

1042
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: you all far. You know, I met you several times.

1043
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: It's not I'm not insulted that you don't remember me.

1044
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't bother me. I'm just letting you know I

1045
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: have met you, brother. I can point out your house.

1046
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: I can tell you I could drive your house right now.

1047
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: That's just that's I ain't gonna give no more. I

1048
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna give no more. But that's I'm gonna gil

1049
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: because like a little everybody know, because everybody know what

1050
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: I've been. You know I'm still I'm still here, absolutely, people,

1051
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: I digress. Let's go back to you. Why you really

1052
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: called the called me over here just having this little

1053
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: fun conversation, Justine. I saw the movie on Netflix, you

1054
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: executive producers from just from that that factory called able

1055
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: don a bad But I just saw that Chairs Your Life, boy,

1056
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: Chairs Your Day. Oh my god, I don't even talk

1057
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: about that. Let's let's talk about Justine. Let's talk about

1058
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: a moving piece. Because one of the stars of the

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Speaker 1: series was physically disabled and then you physically. This is

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Speaker 1: why I like that. This is what my take on him.

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Speaker 1: You had the lead characters were disabled in different ways.

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Speaker 1: One was emotionally disabled and then one was physically disabled,

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Speaker 1: and then they will put together in this series to

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Speaker 1: see how they will interact and deal with their their

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Speaker 1: their their personal crisis, their growth. And and then you

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Speaker 1: had you in the middle, and you those two child actors. Fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, those two child act

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Speaker 1: that little boy. Don't tell them. You know, when when

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Speaker 1: I be watching, because I've been fortunate, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the two kids who played my grandkids. And yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're wonderful, as well as the girl who

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Speaker 1: played the disabled. All of the fantastic. But when I

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Speaker 1: when I watched scripts, I've done enough scripts. I've written scripts.

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Speaker 1: When I see extra that's being added in a natural state,

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Speaker 1: I go, and these little kids who played your grandkids,

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Speaker 1: I went, they get it, they understand, they are fearless

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Speaker 1: and they're natural at it. And so that's their gift.

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Speaker 1: You know, they might go to a college degree. But

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Speaker 1: bor right there, I saw their gifts. They might become

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Speaker 1: teenagers and I don't want to act anyone. That's their right.

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Speaker 1: The boy, when I saw in this movie and you

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Speaker 1: executive produced it, what were you part of the casting process?

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Speaker 1: To Glenn, No, I must say that I was not.

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Speaker 1: I was not. That was all step Nick Turner Let's

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Speaker 1: Pieces Justine Uh was written, directed, produced, and stars Stephanie Turner,

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Speaker 1: who is the the daughter of is the football coach

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Speaker 1: for the Redskins Dallas Cowards of coordinator genius. Yes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and she as an actress who was tired of not

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Speaker 1: getting the roles that she wanted uh, you know, and

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Speaker 1: finding that women were not giving the opportunities they're going

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Speaker 1: to play the characters and the depths that she thought

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Speaker 1: should be uh put on the screen. And so she

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Speaker 1: took it upon herself to put this piece together and

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Speaker 1: saw me on um as I was doing a spin

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Speaker 1: on How to Get Away with Murder series and she

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Speaker 1: called my asking if I would be interested in being

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Speaker 1: part of the script. It was a small independent movie,

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Speaker 1: low budget, and she was hoping that I would be

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Speaker 1: able to, you know, to see something in it enough

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Speaker 1: to want me to be a part of it. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: I did as soon as I read it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful, wonderful story. Like you said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the handicapped characters uh uh in their conditions in so

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Speaker 1: many different ways, and that was really a student to

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Speaker 1: put it like that, and they're going to put it

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Speaker 1: like that before and I was I was, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was embraced by the movie premise, I was I

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Speaker 1: understood her loss because the fact that you could not

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Speaker 1: understand it, but which is great for the character, because

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Speaker 1: frustration is led by tell me what's wrong. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: can't tell people's wrong, you know, and like the like

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Speaker 1: the like the therapist told you, look, leave her along. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: you you're trying to make something happen, but let it

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Speaker 1: apple in its natural course. And you know everybody tries

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Speaker 1: to sometimes people in general, people do that. That's what

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Speaker 1: leads to frustration. You know. Sometimes I asked my daughter

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Speaker 1: to come quick, she might not come as quick as

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Speaker 1: I won't. Then I get frustrated. What's the problem here?

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Speaker 1: Did you hear it? It's the same thing. This movie

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Speaker 1: is about challenging the process, challenging racism, challenging living it

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Speaker 1: or working in an environment that you really don't want

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Speaker 1: to be in, but you deal with frustrated. And then

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Speaker 1: when somebody asked to hear the truth, guess what it

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Speaker 1: can come out of like a hot ball of water.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it did. And uh, but I just

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Speaker 1: like to say my my my main thing and bringing

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Speaker 1: on the show Glynn first of all was just to

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Speaker 1: introduce myself to you, tell you I'm a friend. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: let you know that the impact that you have and

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Speaker 1: we'll have in this industry is a blessing. Um this movie, Justine,

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Speaker 1: as soon as they told me you was book for

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Speaker 1: the show, I immediately watched it and jaw all it.

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Speaker 1: I got my wife to watch it. She enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: And so that's a little absolutely absolutely absolutely you know,

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Speaker 1: you know because it's your body of work. But like

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Speaker 1: I said, my favorite scene in that movie was when

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Speaker 1: you when you was when you when when you was

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Speaker 1: with the therapist and you closed that door. That to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, I don't know if he is

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Speaker 1: he acting now or he just being in set. And

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of your skill, Glenn. And don't change.

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Speaker 1: And let me ask you one question. Don't don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the uh um this this this situation here,

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Speaker 1: it shut us down like it did all of Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the movie you No, No, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Fargo. Actually absolutely absolutely yeah, this rock and doing

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Speaker 1: us tenting on farg On great. When do you guys

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Speaker 1: see Chris and this serious role. It's really really something

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Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to. Yeah, they coming to the

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Speaker 1: Force season the Fargo. Yes you played. Dr Singer absolutely said,

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Speaker 1: Washing produced adaptation to August Wilson Award winning Maul Rainey's

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Speaker 1: Black Bottom. You know you got to, man, look at

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Speaker 1: you busy. You're busy. You know when you have time

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Speaker 1: to ride a horse. But will you at the time

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Speaker 1: everything a kid well doing? Do my favorite g tell

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Speaker 1: you people to send me the posters and send me

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Speaker 1: trailers so I can promote your brand. I call almost

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Speaker 1: a million followers or two ter thousand fans members, and

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Speaker 1: I'm on podcast. I'm syndicated thirties thirty markets. I'm here

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Speaker 1: to promote your brand. I'm here to say thank you

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Speaker 1: for being you and don't change. Thanks, Thank you man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me on the show. I appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: This is the fun end of you, the most fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Man. Laugh, I'm right there.

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Speaker 1: Your laugh making me smile, because man, you know they

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Speaker 1: should add you on like five thousand toothpaste commercial because

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Speaker 1: on fire on fire, dude, fire keep waiting, brother. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Hih. That's right, my man. This ras Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Sure you know what else grows in the forest, Our imagination,

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Speaker 1: our sense of wonder, and our family bonds grow too,

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Speaker 1: next kist I am a fan. Yeah, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: a fan. Everybody comes up on the show, but she

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Speaker 1: stars in one of my shows. I'll watch a lot Supergirl, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: Just let you know I'm kind of like a sci

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Speaker 1: fi nut. My next guest stars and the Tyler Perry

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Speaker 1: produced If Loving You is Wrong? You know back in

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Speaker 1: the day where I would grow if it was always finished.

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Speaker 1: If loving You is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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Speaker 1: That was my song back in the day. But the

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Speaker 1: title of this drama is if Loving You Is Wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's a sexy drama that takes views in the lives

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Speaker 1: of a group of husbands, wives, and friends that live

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Speaker 1: and love in the same middle class neighborhood called Maxine.

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Speaker 1: She has been seen regularly on the c W Supergirl,

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Speaker 1: t n T S, The Last Ship, Free Forms, The Fosters,

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Speaker 1: and ABC's How To Get Away with Murder. But she's

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Speaker 1: on money Making Conversations today. Please work on the money

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Speaker 1: making conversations April Parker Jon a p J. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: but thank you for coming on the show. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's your energy I needed today. Well, it's good you

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Speaker 1: need it because first of all, it's a career. I

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Speaker 1: want to bring people on the money main conversation. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have success in their lives, and you have continued

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Speaker 1: success and very in a very difficult business and as entertainment. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you and a guy you know, I left IBM and

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Speaker 1: to pursue a career as a stand up comic and

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Speaker 1: then became a sitcom writer on television shows. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that that television show is gonna go twenty two

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Speaker 1: episodes or eight episodes or ten episodes ago two years

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Speaker 1: or three years. So you always operate in the environment

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Speaker 1: of uncertainty. So, but but your career, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to where it kind of started. HBCU North Carolina talk

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Speaker 1: about that experience A little, you know, a little a

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Speaker 1: little little black girl, you know. And during a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk about the big dreams, and you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking when I would call Durham a small top

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Speaker 1: but it's not a big city. And when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about big dreams, how did you manage to believe they

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Speaker 1: were possible from your environment? Who? You know? Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: let me let listen to break it down. Let's strick

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Speaker 1: it all down with God. All takes possible. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you know again from a small town, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was rooted uh and and and God

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Speaker 1: and the possitilities that the universe can can send your way.

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Speaker 1: And hey, I was a small town thrilled with their dreams.

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Speaker 1: And I just, uh, I chose career. It did really

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Speaker 1: excuse me. The career kind of chose me. And uh

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Speaker 1: and I and we've been sell in love with each other,

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Speaker 1: and uh and I just didn't quick I persevered, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's kind of cliche, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: one of those things that you stick something long enough,

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Speaker 1: you'll find desist in it if you're a passion for it.

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Speaker 1: And I have a passion for it, and and I

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Speaker 1: just thanks to to get small town to term I did,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Hillside High School, thanks to UM and I

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Speaker 1: just get thank you to to to those people who

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Speaker 1: poured into me in a little small town and threw

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Speaker 1: my mom and my church Shamply and the rectations that

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Speaker 1: are there. And uh, I'm I'm just grateful talking to

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Speaker 1: you and still still being able to live my dream

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Speaker 1: and I still have still much more to do. UM

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see what the universe holes. Man. Well,

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Speaker 1: well let's talking about this current universe. You know, if

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Speaker 1: loving you is wrong? Network? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: own network. Tyler Pairy produced because you know it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be selicious because I watched all his shows. You know,

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Speaker 1: I am a Tyler Perry nut. Okay, now, thank you,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Thank you, this show here, I'm

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: gonna let you tell everybody about the show it did.

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Speaker 1: Rou Sean McDonald go come back and give his version. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you know it's gonna be a little information, you know,

1268
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: let your boy, let you know your boy is and

1269
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: love what you're doing and and love with this show.

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: So set us up. I'll tell us about to do it.

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it short because I'm really excited to

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: hear your take on it. I could, I could, I

1273
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: could always shave a little bit of the talk show.

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: I just have to take you have to experience it.

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: So this show, like you said, action, Uh, it's it's

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: about the lines of these five friends. We live in

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: the town polled next thing. They're all from somewhat different

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: walks of life. Um, but they live in the town

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01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: where there's a drama that ensues every day. But that

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: drama is affairs, murder, uh, scandal, all the things you

1281
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: tould think of when it comes to drama. This distal

1282
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: small town has endured it by character who I play.

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm one of the Sis ladies and name is baddily Hitting.

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: I would say Mamber is probably one of the more

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: little up five. And I say that in respect to that.

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01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: She she she's one of the more relatable characters. Um,

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: I like that kind of knows you though, you kind

1288
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: of kind of knows the and and protective, almost crassic.

1289
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: I like a catechult. I told more as protective care.

1290
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying. I'm saying, I'm being here

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01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: rand you know I'm saying right right really cut. It

1292
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: needs a sure children, children, whatever she has to do

1293
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: to protect the one she loves. And I enjoyed playing

1294
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Natalie so much. She's a lot like me in a

1295
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: lot of ways. The boss don't very different too in

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: some places, but but a lot like many of the

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: people Watcher can really the late tour, somebody in their

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: family is probably like badly. Yeah, I did that a

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01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: lot just when I was, let, you know, liveing my

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: life bots and store. You know, I don't have people

1301
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: stop being so my Auntie is just like you. You

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: know what a girl your kids do. Natalie is just

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: like me. So Natalie's a stable farm. She's Uh, she's

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: in a relationship with the Rucian who was played by

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01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: Charles wad Woodfield. Uh. Wonderful and just a wonderful being.

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: Um for what it's it's been a roller coaster ride.

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: She she's one of the group who has released a

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: lot of money. She lives on the outsourcet of town

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: before moving into Maxie, but now she lives in max

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Speaker 1: Name with the rest of the ladies and uh and

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: her and and as the season's look for you know,

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: her life started to change and she was on a

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: little show feel better and kind of living out the

1314
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: dream and her family with the drama stills followers so

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: and and it still follows up the tool of this

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Speaker 1: new season. And I can't wait to see what viewers

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Speaker 1: are gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna be able to find out.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what take Okay, cool, okay cool?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, April Parker Jones. If Loving You

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Speaker 1: Is Wrong. It's produced by Tyler Perry. It's a sexy

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: drama that takes viewers into the lives of a group

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: of husbands, wives, and friends that live and love in

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01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: the same middle class neighborhood or town called Maxine. This

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Speaker 1: is the fifth and final season. April. Your character's Natalie.

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: I think she kind of knows he I think she

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: bothered too many people. But guess what, I'm just a

1327
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: viewer and just telling you what I see. You're married

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01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: to the Goody two Shoe police officer Lucien, which is

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: my name with an Ail Rashaan Leshawn. That's it. Kelly.

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: Kelly is in jail for the murder of Travis Kane

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: and is being helped by Goody two Shoe police officer

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: Solution and Rick Now Rick has another agenda because he

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: kind of likes Kelly. I kind of noticed that alone

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: the show. He don't way too much for a police officer.

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: And then when he touched her hand a little bit

1336
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: when her hand was on the in the jail cell,

1337
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: I knowed the little energy pushed on that. Now, Travis Kane,

1338
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: he's no longer in the show because he's dead. He

1339
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: stalked a lot of women at the church, the church

1340
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: settling with nine women. When the same allegations hit Kelly.

1341
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: Now she and jail. They want to just put it

1342
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: in jail for a double life. In fact, the d

1343
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: A wants to kill him. That's what I'm just telling y'all. Strong.

1344
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: Now Kelly is represented by a public defender because the

1345
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: lawyer that they wanted to hire a turney in. I'm

1346
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: gonna get to him later because he's very key to

1347
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: the cliff hanger at the end of the show. Now,

1348
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,480
Speaker 1: but turning in, he worked for Larry. Larry, No, everybody

1349
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: Larry is um, We'll get to him a little bit later.

1350
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: So dr turning in, he playing the double agent for

1351
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: Larder because Larry he actually represents the Kane family. So

1352
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: his firm does and turne in. He cannot represent somebody

1353
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: in and be like litigation drama. So he said, like,

1354
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: I won't represent but I guide the college student public defendily.

1355
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: You can say whatever. He don't know nothing coming up

1356
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: with that nice little tight sup and cleaning shoes. But

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: he's never does any big case in his life. Now

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: let's go to the sexy Esperanza. Now, okay, let's talk

1359
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: about her. She went to Larry Larry again, everybody goes

1360
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: to Larry. I don't know why everybody goes to Ladd

1361
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 1: because Larry is as messy as you come. He's a lawyer,

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: know everybody business. Okay, But Esperrasa rolls up in there

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: because everybody go to Larry, right. I want to get

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01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: divorced from her crazy husband Eddie. Eddie is also a

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01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: police officer. What do you think the Esperraza work at

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01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: the police station. So we have a problem right there.

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: She's at the police station. She can't get away from

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: a crazy husband who's a crazy car. She wants to

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: get a divorce from the crazy cop and gets sold

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01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: custody right there. You know there's gonna be a problems

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01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: now through yet, because like I said, Randall. That's my man.

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: Randall's in shape, you know, pull off that shirt, got

1373
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: everything working, six pack, chess, puffed up even in the

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01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: shirts that he wears. You did he fine? Fine, fine five.

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: That is a staple of all Tyler pair of series.

1376
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna have the five five five man that fits

1377
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: Randall's bill. He's fine, okay, but he's all, but he

1378
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: also can act. He's also crazy. Let me tell you

1379
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: a little thing. A box. See, everybody lives right across

1380
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: from each other, right next to each other, so you

1381
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: have to walk far to get in trouble. Rand he

1382
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: has had been having a sexual affair with the white

1383
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: lady next though, who name is Alex. That's very key

1384
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: that you hear the name Alex, because we're gonna throw

1385
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: a little druma on that name a little bit later on,

1386
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: because I am wrapping up the season guiding you to

1387
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: the cliff Hank, which is gonna be the start on Tuesday,

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: March thirty first, when this series just takes off and

1389
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: everybody get crazy. Everybody got to get crazy on this series, okay,

1390
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: because we're trying. McDonald's telling you you gotta watch your

1391
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: serious now now, Random he thinks that Alex has his child.

1392
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: Why does he think that because the baby got black features?

1393
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: Do dog? He's a white guy. He refused to take

1394
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: the DNA because he no, he has no black ancestry

1395
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: in his life. But here's the funniest part about it.

1396
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: Brad who's mad to Alex, who wants to get a

1397
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: divorce for Alex, and Randall who's having sex with Alex.

1398
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: Right next door Brad is dad and Marcy, who used

1399
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: to be married to random dog. Uh. At this point

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01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: in the story, you're going rushan kidn't get any deeper.

1401
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: You're doing rooting to me because there's a bipolar white

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: lady that lives across the street who walks across in

1403
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: front of the windows all the time. Reason she told Natalie, Natalie,

1404
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: I walk around, I walk around the hawks in the nude.

1405
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: Natalie said, should you close the curtain the great ladys,

1406
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of the dark. So you look perplexed, Okay,

1407
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: Obviously she likes showing the black man who is Randall

1408
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: sitting across the street with binoculars. I would tell you

1409
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: something that is what you call an obvious peeping tongue.

1410
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: To be sitting across the street with some binoculars, stand

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: across the street in the house, or the bipolar white

1412
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: lady who walks around buck naked. Okay, cool. Now I'm

1413
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: coming to the end. I hope you hate with me.

1414
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: I hope I have said nothing wrong yet have an

1415
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: April Parker Jones. Everything still look okay? Cool? Bringing on

1416
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: to the end. Okay, here we go. Now ben It,

1417
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: he's married to the bipolar white lady. Then millennials. Okay,

1418
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: one day ben It comes home the bipolar white lady.

1419
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what's going wrong because she refused

1420
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: to take a madge. That's why I keep mentioning that,

1421
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: because that plays a big role in the series. She

1422
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: should take a marriage or shouldn't you take a madge?

1423
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: She refused to take a madge because she won't stay

1424
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: have a child. Well, guess what. You gotta keep taking

1425
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: these minds. So Benny walks in. One day, she's painting.

1426
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: Guess who she's painting. She's painting Randall And guess what

1427
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: he's wearing nothing in the painting. He's bucking it black Nick. Well,

1428
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: guess what. Benny doesn't take this too kindly, so he's

1429
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: wrong saying death thread bomb on Randall's house. I'm gonna

1430
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: leave it at that, a death red bomb on Randall's house. Okay, cool,

1431
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: We're coming to the end. Okay, now, April Parker Jones,

1432
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,520
Speaker 1: I have not made any mistakes chat in the storytelling,

1433
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: how I not. I'm leading you with guiding you to

1434
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth season, which is gonna lead

1435
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: to a comatic and tremendous found fifth season. Oh if

1436
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: Lover You was wrong? Produced by Tyler Powell. Now, okay,

1437
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: Larry comes back into the picture, right Larry. Larry meets

1438
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: with Eddie and we discover Larry likes Eddie dot dot dot.

1439
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: Eddie said, I don't know like that. Larry said, yes,

1440
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: you do. That's gonna happen in the fifth season. So

1441
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: you gotta find out is Eddie like that or not

1442
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: like that? Now, Eddie got bruises. Now, if you watch

1443
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: the end of the serious season and he got bruises

1444
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: all over his face, you know why because Steven beat

1445
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: him up. Who is Steven? That's Esperanza. I don't wanna

1446
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: call him. I will not call him her man because

1447
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: she's not having that type of relationship. But Stephen has

1448
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: beating up with Eddie. Like like he wants to pay

1449
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: man cool. Now we're coming down to the end here.

1450
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: The DNA tests, the big DNA test. So they get

1451
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: in to the hospital. Alex is there, the doctor who

1452
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: trying to maintain her license, is there to people who

1453
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: can't speak of there in the room. Larry walks in

1454
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: the room. Randall walks in the room, reads the DNA tests.

1455
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: Randall officially gets the word you're not the father. Randall

1456
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: stunned because guess what the baby got black features? Come

1457
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: to the remember I said, somebody in turn dr the

1458
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: attorney in. We're about to bring him on back into

1459
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: the picture. At the April's house, which is she plays

1460
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: the roll up Natalie and lule Sean. Brad comes into

1461
01:22:55,320 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: the house with Alex, and Alex says, I don't want

1462
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: a divorce. Brad said, you get a divorce. I need

1463
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: a witness. Catches showing off guard, but he's a good

1464
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: at two shoot cop, so he goes with the floor.

1465
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: Because MS knows at April's character played by which is Natalie,

1466
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: she's in to everybody's mix anyway, unless they say, you know,

1467
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: she's striking everybody coffee and nixing their teeth. That's what

1468
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: she does on this show. Okay, because she stabbed po Randall,

1469
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: even though that's another story, but that's a digres let

1470
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: me go to let me let me go to the end.

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: Also also when she burned in the fire too, but

1472
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: that's another season. That's another season. We're trying to get

1473
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: to the fifth season. So so officially, Brad has already

1474
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: asked Marcy to marry him. Marcia is the ex wife

1475
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: of Randall. Okay, she said no, talking about, Hey, let's

1476
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: build this relationship a little longer we've been you know,

1477
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: get your freedom first, because he had not gotten this

1478
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: freedom when he asked the marry even showed her to ring.

1479
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,919
Speaker 1: It's all official now in the House of Lashawn and Natalie.

1480
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: Natalie plays the character characters played by April Parker Jon Homes.

1481
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: It's official. The divorce gives it to the guy who

1482
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: can't speak. He walks out with the papers. Then we're

1483
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: getting closer to the end, attorney end. He had met

1484
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: earlier in an episode he had met Jennifer and I

1485
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: mean Alex and thought she was Jennifer, somebody he had

1486
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: dated on Facebook or Tender or some dating site. She said,

1487
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: I've never met you in my life. I've never met

1488
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: you in my life. She's very adamant, I've never met

1489
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: you in my life. Well guess what he knew that woman.

1490
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: So at the end of the episode, we know the

1491
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: baby's not Randalls, even though in his black features. We

1492
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: know not Brad because Brad claims to be one white.

1493
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Your finger is and walking on the sidewalk, Ian grabs her.

1494
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: I know you. You say your name is Alex, but

1495
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: you're Jennifer. She said, would you get out of my face?

1496
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: He says, hard for me to get out of your

1497
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: face when I got a screenshot at you on my

1498
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: phone in attorney in it's the father of Alex baby.

1499
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: That is the cliffhanger along with Randall, got his house

1500
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: with a bomb dropped on it. You don't know what

1501
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 1: are you gonna do. You don't know if Brad and

1502
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Marcia're gonna get together. You don't know, if Esperaza is

1503
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna get divorce. You don't know, Stephen gonna beat up

1504
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: Eddie again, you know, and if Lago get together with Eddie.

1505
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: You don't know, if Kelly gonna get out of jail.

1506
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: If you get out of jail, it offers a Rick

1507
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna be waiting and Lashwan he almost with the jail

1508
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: to himself because he thought Kelly had ran away. That's

1509
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the fourth season at all, incompetent seasons. If Loving you

1510
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: are wrong, it's wrong. Come on, am did I deliver?

1511
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: Did I deliver for you? I might as well just

1512
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: thank of the phone, because you have delivered hoey more

1513
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: than I could have ever done. You said it, you

1514
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: got it all up that you left. I know you've

1515
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: left me on Marcia for tomorrow. Getting here. I tell you,

1516
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: I had to tell you. I love your girl, Da.

1517
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: And so what I love about your career is that

1518
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, going into the fifth season of Tyler Perry

1519
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: and you've been working all this time on other projects ABC,

1520
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: Free Farm, c W talking about welcomes through that whole

1521
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: process and when you realize that things are starting to

1522
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: get a little bit better in your career. And we

1523
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: also don't get back to the grand finale of the

1524
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: grand premier of the final season of Love, but you

1525
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: have a career that we need to we need to

1526
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: tell the fans about and also also congratulate you on.

1527
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. And uh, it's been

1528
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: a it's been a journey, and it's it's it's to

1529
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: continue with journey. In this industry, there's an uncertain journey journey, UM.

1530
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's what we should succept when we decide

1531
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that we want to be in the entertainment industry, that

1532
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: it does come with a lot of uncertainty. But I've

1533
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: been blessed. I've been very blessed because I haven't given

1534
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: up UM. And I encourage your listeners if they are

1535
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: looking to pursue a career in the entertainment industry that

1536
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just to don't just continue to

1537
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: persevere or listen. It's it took me ten years in

1538
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: Hollywood before I book this Tyler Perry UM shows let

1539
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: he was Wrong and which I was a Perioes regular season,

1540
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: But it took ten years of working up to that

1541
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: UM and UH of doing great shows, a lot of

1542
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: guest stars, a lot of co stars, a lot of

1543
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: earn roles on awesome major networks. UM. But I know

1544
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: that even through those two years, the best to feel

1545
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: yet to come. There's still so much, so much, bigger

1546
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: roles to come for me. But I'm so grateful that

1547
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: I had a chance to work with actors like The

1548
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: Bottle Day. It's been um and working with Tyler Perry

1549
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: and working under Open's network own. I can't wait to

1550
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: see what works in store. But it has come with work.

1551
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: It's come with work. It's come with a lot of

1552
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: rejection to um you know, if everything blue, it ain't gold,

1553
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a lot of being told no,

1554
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: but learning how to celebrate the guesses. UM. So I'm

1555
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: just I'm just really grateful for this opportunity. And um,

1556
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I feel like that I'm leaving. Um, I'm a bit

1557
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: about bit as years go by, I feel like I'm

1558
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 1: starting to leave a mark in this industry. Um and

1559
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: and leaving a legacy for myself and for my children,

1560
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: um and for for those who who do look to

1561
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: me for inspiration, those small town young women from from

1562
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: from places like during North Carolina. UM So yeah, I'm

1563
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: just I'm just grateful people to be talking to you,

1564
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: and grateful to be promoting the final season of its

1565
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: loving you as well. And it's perfically you know, you're

1566
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: on yourself with five years and it and it it

1567
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: changed my life, It changed by life, and so to

1568
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: see it comes to an end, it's hard, but this

1569
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: all things have to come to an end, and this

1570
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: one's coming to an end to make room for the

1571
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: new things that are are coming hopefully in the in

1572
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: your future. Absolutely, I'm talking to April Parker John when

1573
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: she plays your character Natalie on the hit the Own

1574
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Series's OW and Oprah Winfrey's Network Um If Loving You

1575
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Is Wrong? It premiers March Tuesday, March first, at ten pm,

1576
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: and if you missed the premier, you can catch it

1577
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: every Tuesday on Network I tend Eastern and Pacific nine

1578
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: pm Central. It's called If Loving You Is Wrong. I'm

1579
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: a fan of the show because it's classic type payer,

1580
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: it's classic tyle, it's messy, it's sex as iteracial relationships.

1581
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: It got the five black dude in and you know

1582
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: it's a form of that that works. And then you

1583
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: got the nose and that the character that let's take

1584
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: a little, a little moment here because I got you

1585
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: on the phone here with you, you know, because you

1586
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: know you're trying to you know, to see I know

1587
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: your character, your character one of my sisters always get

1588
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: getting on my nerve. You know, you caught all of

1589
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: me about information I don't want okay, because your pole husband,

1590
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: he's a good two shoe cop. That's Leshan Police Office, Leshan. Okay.

1591
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: And she already told somebody on the show that if

1592
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: anybody is trying to mess with her husband, take her husband,

1593
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: She's gonna kill him. She always not nothing noticed this,

1594
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: And I see her character is kind of weird because

1595
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: she's she's she's she's she's a nice, violent woman. Okay.

1596
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: When I say that nice, vioblem you know what I'm saying,

1597
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: because I've never met a kind of like a kind

1598
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: of like the neighborhood watch lady, and you kind of

1599
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: you know what what you have violent tendencies that pop

1600
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: up on or you or you let people know, don't

1601
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: don't don't take this nice only one pushy. She she

1602
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: didn't walk around violent. It's only only one pushed. And

1603
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: she's pushed. She has no problem to push back. That's all. Yeah,

1604
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: there we go. But she's married to a cop, Okay,

1605
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: so what lets you know that she has a little

1606
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: protection on the side. Paula shot He really don't know

1607
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: all these things about her, Okay, he don't know she's

1608
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: just aggressive. He knows that when he walked through that

1609
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: front door if the neighborhood got a problem, his wife

1610
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: is gonna tell him about it, am I right? Oh yeah,

1611
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 1: she's gonna know. She's gonna have the tea and the coffee,

1612
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: and okay, so she's stupids favor for the fans if

1613
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: loving you is wrong, because I would. I mentioned you

1614
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 1: have Randall and right across the street has been in

1615
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: and his wife, you know, and then next door to

1616
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: Randall is uh Is Braden and alex or slash Jennifer.

1617
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: They lived there. Okay, we'll do everybody else. Look where

1618
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: does Ian live? And where do you live? In relationships

1619
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: to that? To those homes. You know, what's a really

1620
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: good question. I know I lived from uh Randall's house

1621
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: maybe two houses down on the list. But we're all

1622
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Kelly is right next door is around the corner. We're

1623
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: all pretty pretty close. If you throw all rock, you

1624
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: you love to hit one of those characters you just named.

1625
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: So we're close enough to know each other. Nethelett say that.

1626
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know I traveled a lot. My friends

1627
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: always they always laugh at me. All they go, how

1628
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 1: do you watch all that television? How do you know?

1629
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: They always amazed? But what they I was? I was

1630
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: a traveling comedian when I started out IBM and started

1631
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: the career of comedians. So done cruise ship. Just like

1632
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: you said, that's a journey to where you for me

1633
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: to be able to happen, I have this conversation with

1634
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: you on my show, moneymaking conversations, you know, be able

1635
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: to say, create a level of respect that people book

1636
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: you on the show and you come on the show

1637
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: go okay, we're trying. Like you know, I talked to him, Okay, cool,

1638
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: And so that's that's the journey. Didn't get to there.

1639
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, their peaks and valids and a lot more

1640
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: values because when you look at it, it's not all

1641
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: bad because life is not about you know, a set,

1642
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: it's about living. And that's what you're saying that team

1643
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: year gap, you know, because she knows what I were

1644
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, I played that role where I

1645
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: was on in a film or I was in a

1646
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: television show and they said, look, you cannot speak. You

1647
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: sit there and uh, maybe one day we'll give you

1648
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: a five and nothing, five and nothingers five lines and nothing.

1649
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: That's when you when you get that five and under

1650
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: and then you really rocking the roll and then you

1651
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: can put an actual acting or role on your resume

1652
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: credit credit. So a lot of people they put extra

1653
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: acting roles on their resume in the beginning, they're just

1654
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: trying to get in. They're trying to fit in where

1655
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: they can fit in. They say they act. They were

1656
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: on Spider Man three, four and six, okay, and didn't

1657
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: say a word. But guess what they got to build that.

1658
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know that. You know, that's

1659
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: what I thought of Spider Man. Come on, now, what

1660
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you know some April, what you're not gonna do is

1661
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: come on my show and act like I don't know

1662
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: who I'm talking to. That's what you're not gonna do.

1663
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,799
Speaker 1: You know. You gotta gonna do me like that now, okay,

1664
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: because you would do. You played Men three really, so

1665
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: I just grabbed Spider Man out of the sky. You know,

1666
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I just want in order to trying to drive home

1667
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: the plane. I just want to point that out. And

1668
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: it was a very small rule and until yet, hey,

1669
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: but there was your point. You did speak. It went

1670
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: down on as a and then and then you take

1671
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: these opportunities and people look at it like, okay, let

1672
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: me bring her in for an audition. And then when

1673
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: you have that audition, that's when you have to make

1674
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: it that that that little credit that brought you in

1675
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: that door has to become a reality because they're asking

1676
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: you to perform to a level because there isn't investment.

1677
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: People understand that when you when you hire actors and directors,

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Speaker 1: and especially actors, they're important because they're reading lines and

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Speaker 1: these lines have to come to life in a very

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Speaker 1: realistic manner. Okay, And that's the most the biggest blessings

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Speaker 1: that I've had in my life is watching people take

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Speaker 1: scripts that I've written and bring them to life. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a meaningful thing. Talk to us about that whole

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Speaker 1: function of getting the script and being able to prepare

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Speaker 1: your your mindset and deliver these deliver a character that

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Speaker 1: you feel you can deliver all the character they want

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Speaker 1: you to deliver. Welcome to those steps, April Parka Jones. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just the steps that I use. Is the journey

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Speaker 1: for me. It's just been to read the scripts and

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Speaker 1: find and and see if there is an immediate connection

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Speaker 1: to the character, UM. And if there is a connection,

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Speaker 1: that just it helps me to be able to portray

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Speaker 1: their character in the more realistic ways. Um. Sometimes that's

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Speaker 1: not always going to be an instant connection to a character.

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Speaker 1: So it's my job as an actor to make choices

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Speaker 1: about what I can, what I can, what I could

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Speaker 1: a bang it about this character that make it relatable

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Speaker 1: to me so that we're not betray it. It's realistic

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Speaker 1: because it makes it makes the viewer feel a certain emotion.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's my job, um, And that's probably a

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Speaker 1: lot about his job is to find either a way

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Speaker 1: to connect themselves to that character, if there's not an

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Speaker 1: immediate one, that to create a choice that makes that

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Speaker 1: character connect connected with them to so that it's realistic.

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Speaker 1: And these actors are just portraying reality. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: reenact realism. So in order to do that, we've got

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Speaker 1: to make it fit for us. So that's that's in

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Speaker 1: my journey. And it's fine and it's hard, challenging, um,

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Speaker 1: but that's all we do it to grow and to

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Speaker 1: get better. And I hope that through the years I've

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Speaker 1: been able to make the audience, make the viewer feel

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Speaker 1: that my portrayal was real. Um. That's that's my journey

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Speaker 1: to make to make that that character feel real to

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Speaker 1: that person. So I think I've been able to computic

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Speaker 1: that you have you have talking to for Parker Jones,

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Speaker 1: ap you know April A p j as. I like

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Speaker 1: the call she pays And now they only hit series

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Speaker 1: on on Network called If Loving You Is Wrong Again.

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Speaker 1: The premiers uh Tuesday, March through the first If you

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Speaker 1: missed the premier, don't miss the premiere. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I said, everybody help, letting you know that that that

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Speaker 1: that attorney in and stopped Alex slash Jennifer on the

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Speaker 1: block on the sidewalk and accused her. And he's confronted

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Speaker 1: us saying, hey, is that black child my child? That's

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Speaker 1: your Cliff Paker right there. Now that don't drive you

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01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: back to watching the show. You got a problem. Let

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01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 1: me just remind you what to expect in the upcoming

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Speaker 1: fifth and final season. If Loving You Is Wrong? You

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01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: got Larry. He's into everybody's business. He hounds the case

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Speaker 1: for Kane. Travis Kane. Who Kelly you know she's in

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01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: jail for the murder of Travis Kane. Now Travis Kane's

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01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: important because Kelly not gonna be represented by public defender

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01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: who is being led on the side by turning in

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Speaker 1: and turning in works for the law firm that represents Kane,

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Speaker 1: which is Larry. Larry's already hinted that there can be

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Speaker 1: a relationship that he needs to have a relationship with Eddie.

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Speaker 1: Eddie said, I don't walk like that. He said, yes,

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Speaker 1: you do. That's another reason you watch. Do you have

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01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Stephen out there? He wants a bigger relationship with Esperanza,

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01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: who's fine his hack. Now I understand from a physical

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01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: staff by why he wanted to get with crazy Esperanza.

1742
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: But so he already beat up Pole Eddie wants it

1743
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: may be another beat up for Eddie or guess what,

1744
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Eddie might go to the gym and learn how to

1745
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: beat up him this time. Then you have Paul Randall.

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01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Paul Randall, he's at the house by himself, bend it

1747
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 1: and dropped the bomb depth threat on his house. Can't

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01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: tell you what happened, You gotta watch the series to

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01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: find out. Then you got Ben It's bipolar wife. You

1750
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: have to bring it up because she refuses to take

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01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: her meds. Is drawing, it's it's painting new photos or

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Speaker 1: new portraits of Randall, who lives directly across the street.

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01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: Now if and then you have Lucien Good at two shoot.

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01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: Then you have Officer Rick who's out there touching leave

1755
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: a little touches to make you believe there might be

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01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: some interest for him into Paul Kelly who's sitting behind

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01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: jail and orange jump suit. She tied up, hair still comb.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how her hairstand coach staying that comb

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Speaker 1: the jail, but the hair stays calm. Then you have

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Speaker 1: Paul Natalie walking a mile again her groceries. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand that in the year, in the year we have

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Speaker 1: uber today. She got her on a call, but she

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Speaker 1: walks a mile one way, then she walks a while

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Speaker 1: back the other way with her groceries. Randall thought that

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01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: was the craziest thing he had ever heard in his

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01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: life and laughed real loud. That that is a wrap

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Speaker 1: up of season one to three four, leading into a

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Speaker 1: tremendous fifth and final season April. If I missed anything,

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01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: please let me know, because you know I don't want

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Speaker 1: to leave out no detail of this great series detail.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, you was a fit fans up

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Speaker 1: to definitely tune in tomorrow. Everybody March thirtem on all

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01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: you're in for a ride. I guarantee. Thank you for

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01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 1: having me. I'm so grateful, UM, and I just appreciate

1775
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: your dues, you guys into the show and your support.

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01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll be back because I wanted you know,

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01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: we got that movie coming out that when you play

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01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 1: the character Morgan. We talked about that later, but I

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01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: know you was on this phone to talk about if

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01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: loving you was wrong. It's a great series. It deserves

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01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: support when that comes out. Let me come back on

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01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, Okay, we'll do. We'll do. I thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you all right,

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Speaker 1: this ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to Money Making Conversations. UM.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hear more episodes of money Making Conversations,

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Speaker 1: go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald, UM,

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Speaker 1: your host. If I could you and you could be

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Speaker 1: me for just one hour, if you could find a

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Speaker 1: way to get inside each other's mind, walk a mile

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Speaker 1: in my shoes, wac a mile in my shoes shoes.

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Speaker 1: We've all felt left out, and for some that feeling

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Speaker 1: lasts more than a moment. We can change that. Learn

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Speaker 1: how it belonging begins with us. Dot Org. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the Act Council. Welcome out in the shoes,

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Speaker 1: and we're live here outside the Perez family home, just

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Speaker 1: waiting for the And there they go, almost on time.

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Speaker 1: This morning, Mom is coming out the front door strong

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Speaker 1: with a double armed kid carry. Looks like dad has

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Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh but

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Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat

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Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who

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Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself

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Speaker 1: in the sister seat. Dead SIPs the bad clothes and

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Speaker 1: they're off. But looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee

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Speaker 1: cup is still on the roof of the car. And

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Speaker 1: there it goes. Ah, that's a shame that mug was

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Speaker 1: a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, just nail

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Al Roker here as a guy with his

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Speaker 1: and the AD Council. It's time, this young man, it's time.

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Speaker 1: My next cast is a stand up comic right there,

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Speaker 1: let's start right there. A stand up comic. That's what

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Speaker 1: I used to be. But I always it's hard for

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Speaker 1: him to say that, because I always feel I'm gonna

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01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 1: always be a stand up comic. But I gotta say

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Speaker 1: that's what I used to be because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that that's what he does. That's what he does for

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Speaker 1: a living, and he's one of the best. Daddy, he's

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Speaker 1: an actor and a writer as comedian. As a comedian,

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Speaker 1: he has performed all over the country and made various

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Speaker 1: TV appearances. A twenty years stand up veteran who has

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Speaker 1: made his living performing, acting, writing for TV and film,

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Speaker 1: and training other comedians. You hear me right there training

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Speaker 1: other comedians. David has performed on Comedy Central to b T.

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Speaker 1: He has three stand up specials to his credit, and

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Speaker 1: released his fourth, fat Ballerina, produced by my man kearn

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Speaker 1: Hard fat Ballerina. Who So Netflix, right now, that's what

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Speaker 1: I saw. What I saw, I'll tell you out landing big.

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01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 1: I went, you know, because what happens is, hey, brother,

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01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: we're all at the house. Okay, I'm going through and

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01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: really really I saw you before the whole pandemic thing

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01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: got going. So I saw you. So so I go

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01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: to Netflix. I got you know, netflick comes up, push

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01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: my my little Avatar because my wife got to Avatar.

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01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: My daughter got Avatar. You know, like like they're looking

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Speaker 1: at something different than I'm looking at. We all look

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01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: at the same Netflix program. So I go, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: I see who's David David fat look like David right there, man,

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Speaker 1: I's just my boy. So I click it. I sat

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01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: there the whole time laughing. Then my wife come in

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01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: the room. I said, I know him. That's what I said, David,

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Speaker 1: I know. I told my wife I know him, and

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01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: she went, you know everybody, okay, whatever, when I know him?

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Speaker 1: That is so dope. Man. You don't tell you absolutely

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01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: the truth, man, And then you get to the end,

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Speaker 1: the very end. Producer Kim whitty Man, one of the

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Speaker 1: finest character comedian actresses in the game today and a

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Speaker 1: stand up I immediately immediately text Kim Whitman said, I

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Speaker 1: just saw and you can she she can screenshot at it.

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01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: I just saw David special Man. Was he good? I said,

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Speaker 1: I have to I have to get him on my show.

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: One of the main conversations David. She went, wasn't he good?

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01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't he good? I said, girl, he was more than good.

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01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: He was fantastic. So David, congratulations, brother. I just had

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Speaker 1: to tell you how it all went down. How how

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01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: person Some people say, I got a lot of statue

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01:45:58,360 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: in this business. I like to just say, I'm just

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Speaker 1: a brother. But to see you, you've done you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, everybody you know you you have, you

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Speaker 1: have you have helped guide one of the people who

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Speaker 1: have been cut, who have become, you know, a staple

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Speaker 1: in the comedy community. You know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot to do that. Man, It takes

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Speaker 1: a lot to because you know, we're not easy people,

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Speaker 1: and so it takes a lot to be able to

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Speaker 1: go on a journey with somebody. And also, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you did stand up comedy too, So to be able to,

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01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, adjust your lens and start helping somebody else

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: do something is is an incredible thing within itself. So

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Speaker 1: when I when they called me and they told me, like,

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Speaker 1: let me give you our connection. You don't know before.

1885
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: So you you helped inspire a guy who started me doing,

1886
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: who started me writing and producing t V. His name

1887
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: as Anthony Hill. That's my boy. Absolutely I know Anthony

1888
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: is Anthony. Me and Anthony met doing Tony Rocks. TV

1889
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: showed that I was I was brought in to do

1890
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Puncher for I was. Actually I wasn't even asked to go.

1891
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: They asked Chris Spencer to go. Chris Spencer asked if

1892
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 1: he could bring his friend to do some punch up.

1893
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 1: Anthony was wearing under room. Long story short, Anthony got

1894
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: rid of everybody and kept me and me and Anthony

1895
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: became good friends. Anthony went on to run house to

1896
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: paint and Nika bronsptalent period at Lant and the first

1897
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: thing he did when they put him in charge, which

1898
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: he brought me Anthony showed me how to write. Anthony

1899
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: told me that you showed him and told him and

1900
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: you take this little plate that you wrote and turn

1901
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 1: it into this and that is and he credits you

1902
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: for that. So now when I got the call you know, hey,

1903
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: you want to chop it over, saw him like yeah,

1904
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 1: because he has no idea that somebody who you helped

1905
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: also added another another strength in my world, which is

1906
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: now television writing and producing. So he came back around.

1907
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 1: So I just want to say on that thank you.

1908
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: And then we met one time we met. We yeah,

1909
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: we met one time when I was in I think

1910
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: it was in North Carolina maybe South Carolina, I can't remember.

1911
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: But I opened up for Steve and I have been

1912
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: doing stand up all of twenty minutes laterally and you

1913
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: hear I mean, and all was nice enough to talk

1914
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: to me in the back and makes me feel like

1915
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 1: I was, you know, a person, but it was I

1916
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: never forget that. That was the one encounter that I

1917
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: had with Steve which literally had to be twenty twenty

1918
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: one year, twenty three years ago, because I was brand new,

1919
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I've been a stand up twenty

1920
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: forty years, so I know I was within my first

1921
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: two years of George stand up because I had about

1922
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and material. So it was dope then. So

1923
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: it's great to hear somebody who's um affected your career indirectly.

1924
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: To now see that you saw something that I did

1925
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: and you thought that it was funny. That makes me

1926
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: feel good. First of all, the callbacks, See, people don't

1927
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: do callbacks anymore, and a callback, just explain people with

1928
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 1: a callback is in a in a funny comedy routine,

1929
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: is that you're set up a statement and then you

1930
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: you're indirectly bring it back and laid in into your

1931
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: show again. He has like three callbacks in his special. Okay,

1932
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna tell you what. If I tell

1933
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 1: you what the callback is, this won't be funny when

1934
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: you hear the first time. So I'm not gonna ruin

1935
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: a joke, but know that. Yeah, but everybody, But let

1936
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: me just tell it for everybody who's listening. To always

1937
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: tell people that you gotta put in David A Arnold

1938
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 1: or you won't find me. If you do David Arnold,

1939
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna find the white guy that produces all the

1940
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: soundtracks to James Bummer. But if you put in David,

1941
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 1: you'll find me, because a lot of people are searching

1942
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Netflix and they're searching David Arnold and sometimes that won't

1943
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: bring up. If you put in David's ardor in stat Ballerina,

1944
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: that's how you can find me, especially there and on

1945
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: social media. So yeah, but go ahead that that's right, Absolutely,

1946
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 1: you're the thing, and that that's really an art form.

1947
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: It's a lost art form, especially with so many, you know,

1948
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: social media comedians and YouTube comedians, you know, who just

1949
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: just want to say something for two or three minutes

1950
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they walk off and say

1951
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: and take a bow. But that's not nothing negative them.

1952
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: They just take advantage of technology. If I had technology,

1953
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 1: I may have been a YouTube comedian. Who knows if

1954
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: I had that ability to chew it up. The brilliance

1955
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: of Kevin Hard is that he figured out social media

1956
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 1: before everybody figuring it out. As a comedian. That is,

1957
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Was on the phone with

1958
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: a friend of mine last yesterday's name is Desi Banks

1959
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:59,520
Speaker 1: is a YouTube or a Instagram social media influencer personality

1960
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: got like four, I have millions followers Key's and now

1961
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 1: he's been doing stand up about two years, two or

1962
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: three years, and me and him were talking about this.

1963
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I realized about two years ago, two years ago, I

1964
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: had sixteen hundred followers right because I'm you know, I'm like,

1965
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: what would I look like yelling in the camera all day?

1966
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: So I but I realized that this is the way

1967
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,560
Speaker 1: that the world is being reached now. So what I

1968
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 1: didn't want to do with to be that old school

1969
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 1: comedian complaining about these young dudes who are making moves

1970
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: in the way in which the world is moving. So

1971
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: I started taking my point of view, my comedy, my voice,

1972
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: and I started posting on Instagram and Facebook. I got

1973
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 1: over six hundred thousand followers now and in eighteen months

1974
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 1: because I've decided, if this is the game they're playing,

1975
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play that game too. I'm gonna work on

1976
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 1: my stand up, but I'm gonna play this social media

1977
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: game as well. So it's been incredible that six hundred thousand.

1978
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,799
Speaker 1: Where Shaun gave me the launching pad when my Netflix

1979
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: special came out a few weeks ago. That gave me

1980
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: the launching pad to send it out to six hundred

1981
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: thousand people and let him know it was up. And

1982
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: that's what sparked it and got it trending the second

1983
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,600
Speaker 1: day it came out right. And that's what people to

1984
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: understand that I just telling my side story with Steve

1985
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: Harvey is that in two thousand and seven, I started

1986
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,799
Speaker 1: noticing on CNN and all the sports shows twitter feeds

1987
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: and Twitter they had the Twitter handles and I go, wow,

1988
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 1: what is this because Twitter handles. Twitter handles Twitter handles

1989
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 1: And at the time, we had like seven hundred, eight

1990
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 1: hundred thousand fan club members, and I went my ways,

1991
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: my time, we had a eight hundred thousand fan club members,

1992
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: and so we sat down, you know something, we don't

1993
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: want to be left out, and so so we brought

1994
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: bro at the time, he had like fifty thousand at

1995
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 1: that time, and so we brought in the young lady

1996
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: to be his social media person at Avatar. You know,

1997
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: act like he's posted, he's not post and so move

1998
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,560
Speaker 1: right there. If we did not do that move, we

1999
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: will not have been able to launch his talk show

2000
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: in twelve because I was able to compare this social

2001
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 1: media follow with you know, doctor Dr Phil with ln

2002
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 1: D generally with his competitors who are coming along at

2003
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 1: the same time. And so what you also tell the

2004
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 1: people is that if you don't have social media followers,

2005
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: it can damage your opportunities because a lot of companies

2006
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 1: look at you now go what can you do for us?

2007
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna put you on TV? What can you do

2008
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: for us? That's so true, You've got to have us.

2009
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 1: I tell all the young comics that I talked to

2010
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: now and even these older ones, like all the young

2011
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: comics tell me, or the the young influencers, they'll tell

2012
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: me you are the first, one of the first um

2013
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: stand up comedians o G. As they called me, stand

2014
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: up comic to have figured out the social media game.

2015
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because I'm like to let this pass

2016
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: me by, especially because I have not yet gotten my

2017
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: just to do. I have not yet been seen, like

2018
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to be seen. So therefore

2019
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: I started building. Uh, I started building a following, and

2020
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, they posted up videos that are

2021
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: two and a half sixty seconds to three minutes long,

2022
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 1: and most of them ain't funny. I'm funny. I know

2023
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm funny, so I'm like, I could be funny today

2024
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. I lead at your side.

2025
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I leaned into it and I was like, I'm not

2026
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna complain about the game. I'm gonna get with the game.

2027
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: And now I got these two worlds and my gott

2028
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Man. I love being able

2029
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: to talk to my fans on social media and Facebook

2030
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: and Instagram. I love it. I went live yesterday on Facebook.

2031
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 1: People was watching me. That's that's the most people I've

2032
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: ever got a chance to see a small night intimate theater.

2033
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing. It's it's amazing when you realize

2034
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: you have that type of marketing control. I look at

2035
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart and I remember when I was well, I

2036
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: would I remember when I would watch him walk around

2037
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: in the in the in the different clubs. He's always

2038
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 1: had somebody walking with him with some camera who was

2039
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: always running from club to club to club. That's what

2040
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I remember about. And then and then then when I

2041
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: when I when we cast him in the movie, UM

2042
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 1: thinking like a man. The very first one UM he

2043
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 1: had like about I wanted to say he had like

2044
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 1: by five million, was talking about twelve five million Facebook

2045
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: followers at the time at the time. And I remember, right,

2046
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was just remember he was talking about

2047
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Facebook because he had all He had Twitter and Instagram,

2048
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: he had everything. Okay, But and you said, Rashan, I

2049
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: picked up twenty thousand followers on Sunday. Hmm, right, right,

2050
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: thousands of followers in one day. That's what Kevin hard

2051
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 1: Right then I knew he was on to something to

2052
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: pick up twenty followers in one day. And I say

2053
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: that it means something and so and that's why he's

2054
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: a power broker today because he controls his media. And

2055
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: so one of the things that you know, I managed

2056
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: steven A. Smith when we sat down and Steven A.

2057
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Smith was not on Instagram at all. He was just

2058
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 1: a Twitter and Facebook guy. And I said, hey, man,

2059
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: here we're talking about opening the Twitter Instagram account. He said,

2060
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: he isn't that for young people? You think that's my

2061
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 1: market share? Where two point eight million Instagram followers. Later,

2062
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: yes it is, Yes, it is. And so now he

2063
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: is the following in Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And so

2064
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: now he controls his market share. And so when I

2065
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: stopped managing Steve harvey in one of the first things

2066
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: that I wanted to do was because how create my

2067
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: own voice? David? I wonder the what is my voice?

2068
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 1: And people people always look at me, go we'll sell

2069
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: you're you're successful. Now I'm successful with Steve Harvard. That's

2070
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: not my voice, that's at my right. I said, what

2071
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: what would make people follow me? What would make people well?

2072
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: I could bake real good? So I started baking everything.

2073
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: And every time I post a bake, I get thousands

2074
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: to thousand likes. I'll go viral with my baking post.

2075
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: But that wasn't me, and so I had to sit back.

2076
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: That was just a gift that God gave me. And

2077
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: so I have to sit back and go, you know

2078
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that was just a gift. And so

2079
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people understand that that might not be

2080
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: your in goal. But I always tell people, if God

2081
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: gives you a window, watch it, please, you know, look

2082
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: at it. Please open the please. And that's what I did.

2083
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: I opened it and I started baking. So I swear

2084
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: to you, I could be walking at the mall, I

2085
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: could be walking. I was walking in the Beverly Hills

2086
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: walking this lady pulled down roll down that window said,

2087
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: are you the baking guy? I go, wow? Are you? Yeah?

2088
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Right right right right right so so so I was

2089
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: in the Deult allowed. This lady came in to me,

2090
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 1: almost in tears. She was she worked, and she's a

2091
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 1: worker in the Deult Allowed. She said. She said, sir,

2092
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: I spoke to you when you when you when you

2093
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: when you walk by? I go, h, I said hi

2094
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: back then she said, yes you did, but what you

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Speaker 1: didn't know? Are you the baker? To get who bakes?

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Speaker 1: I go, she went, I follow you? I follow you? Man.

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Speaker 1: This lady almost broke down the team out to hug

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Speaker 1: this lady, I said, uh, I had to get up

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Speaker 1: out of my chair man. It's all right, you know.

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Speaker 1: She said, wow, I can't believe a meeting you and

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Speaker 1: I only bring up these scenarios to show that that's

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Speaker 1: the power of controlling your own voice, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, and the power of that translating to

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Speaker 1: the person like me. Ra Sean McDonald contacting you saying hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm a fan watching this guy. Fan

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Speaker 1: it's a fan and I'm telling my wife I know him,

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Speaker 1: and she's looking at me blowing me off. David A

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Speaker 1: Are Now I know him? You know you? Like what

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Speaker 1: It's so dope for me is to watch everybody the

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Speaker 1: two worlds meet now because a lot of like I

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01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: told you, a lot of my fan base had built

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Speaker 1: lately dramatically in social media Facebook and Instagram. So now

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Speaker 1: when I told them, hey, go watch my Netflix special,

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Speaker 1: they went watched it and then they were like, oh,

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01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know you. I mean, I know you funny

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01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Facebook, but I didn't know you're a

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Speaker 1: real stand up comedian. A lot of people don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing stand up for twenty four years and

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Speaker 1: this is not my first role. This is not my

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Speaker 1: first rodeo. This is the first national stage that I've

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Speaker 1: been on, and it's been dope, eat it eat like this.

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Speaker 1: This Netflix special idea I produced, I put I did

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Speaker 1: all of this myself. It's an independent project. It's not

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Speaker 1: a Netflix original. It is an independent project that they

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01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: licensed and they put up. And it's great for me

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: to go that thing on this second day started trending,

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Speaker 1: and it trended that number one first ten days that

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Speaker 1: it was out, and beat out the originals and it

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02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: makes me feel good. Okay, finally get something people this good.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you not only you good, but you

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Speaker 1: can never do another special in the comedy club. You

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Speaker 1: are arenas and that brother, you are venues of three

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Speaker 1: thousand and more. That's where I need to see your

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02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: next special act because because you are, you are a star.

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Speaker 1: Sim teasing about star wars. Stars can never be seen,

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Speaker 1: can never be touchable. I can't look down at and

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Speaker 1: being able to touch on one of my fans. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a star because see people as what people perceive security.

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Speaker 1: You know, way up there, they can you a little

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Speaker 1: bit on the stage. She stars, you know, that's what

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02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: stars do. They motivate people. Even though it's an inconvenience.

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02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Usually he still gotta be there to see you. So

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Speaker 1: when you do these specials, you know your next one,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have another one. You gotta be an a

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02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: vision already already there you go. You gotta be up

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02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 1: on the phone now, come on, come on, you gotta

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02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: be up there, look up there and pulling at somebody.

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Speaker 1: Look when you're looking up around. That's what you gotta do, David,

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02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: because you already star and the reason I say that, man,

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02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: because you're doing the comedy the way comedy is supposed

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02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: to be done. You know, the way Chris Rock do it,

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02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: the way Steve Hard would do it. Why Dave to

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02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: do it? But when you're throwing those callbacks, brother, when

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Speaker 1: you're throwing those callbacks, man, I went this, brother can

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02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: write this. Brother understands and his courageous in his stand

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02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 1: up coming. And we're talking to David a Arnold. He's

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Speaker 1: the star of the new Netflix hit the trended on

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Speaker 1: Netflix called fact Ballerina, produced under the banner of Kevin Hart.

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Speaker 1: Stop throwing out your credits, brother, because you don't know

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02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: who might be listening to. They go, what are you

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02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 1: talking to? This sounds good, I'm talking to David. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've been listening. I've been listening to radio lot. I go,

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02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 1: this sounds good. But who is he talking to? Exactly?

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02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 1: You gotta kee it up. You gotta tee it up

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Speaker 1: every five and ten minutes to let him not absolutely

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Speaker 1: and so and so when I look at the opportunities

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Speaker 1: that you're bringing to the stage, I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: up this whole, this whole moment when I talked in

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Speaker 1: your credits that you would when I said, you've trained

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Speaker 1: successful comedians. Yeah, tell us a lot. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: that scenario, that part of your life. Um, okay, So

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Speaker 1: about ten years ago I started I created a stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy class. It's called the Art of Stand Up Comedy.

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Speaker 1: You can see you can get information on it if

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Speaker 1: you go to my website, which is David a onod

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Speaker 1: dot com and you can click on the class and

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Speaker 1: you can see this. I started doing that about ten

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Speaker 1: years ago. And I'll tell you why. In the beginning,

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Speaker 1: I love stand up. I love the art of stand up.

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Speaker 1: And when I moved here to Los Angeles, I moved

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Speaker 1: here with two tracks, USh bags of clothes, no car,

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Speaker 1: not one single friend, and two addresses to two comedy clubs,

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Speaker 1: the Comedy Store and the laugh Factory. And the only

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Speaker 1: thing I knew if I wanted to be a comedian.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody to tell me you should go

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Speaker 1: on this day, you should talk to this person, you

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Speaker 1: should stand here. I didn't know nothing, so I meandered

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Speaker 1: and found my way by myself. And when I got

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Speaker 1: to a place where I felt like I had some

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Speaker 1: information to share, I decided to teach a class. Now

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, I didn't want to teach a class

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Speaker 1: because they say those who teach teach because they cannot do,

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Speaker 1: and that is that. That was my ego saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. I'm not teaching a classes. He's gonna make

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Speaker 1: it look like a lot, and gave up on trying

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Speaker 1: to be a comedian. So now I'm gonna teach other people.

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Speaker 1: But then I realized, no, no, I'm gonna break the mold.

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Speaker 1: I teach because I do, and I do well, and

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. So when I changed my

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Speaker 1: mindset and I started to teach these classes, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what happened, but I can tell you now I

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Speaker 1: have the largest stand up comedy class in the country.

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Speaker 1: I have well over three d and fifty five people

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Speaker 1: on my waiting list when I opened up my class,

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Speaker 1: and I only do twenty people, and that sells out

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Speaker 1: within within the quickest it ever sold, I was thirty

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Speaker 1: seven minutes. The deceats the most of the terble averages

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Speaker 1: about two and a half hours, but the classes u ute.

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Speaker 1: I can't teach you to be funny, that's in you

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Speaker 1: or not. But what I can show you is the

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Speaker 1: process in which I go through that I've been through

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Speaker 1: and that my friends go through to build an act,

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Speaker 1: to learn how to take this art of storytelling and

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Speaker 1: make it work for yourself. So you can do that

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02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 1: because most people that are comedian, they have no idea

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Speaker 1: how to construct a story and tell a story. They

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Speaker 1: just talking. That's why you see a lot of comedians

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Speaker 1: that have great personality and they're very interesting to look at,

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02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: but they're not talking about ship and you can't remember

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Speaker 1: nothing they're saying, you know what I mean. So, like,

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Speaker 1: I just started teaching the class and I wrote a

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Speaker 1: book called The Artist Stand Up Comedy, which I'm about

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Speaker 1: to be leave. Um it is it's I love doing it.

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Speaker 1: And people thought that I would stop doing it when

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Speaker 1: I started making money. I ain't gonna be doing that

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Speaker 1: when you're making money. And I still do the class.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do it as often as I

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Speaker 1: used to because I'm more busy now, but I still

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Speaker 1: do it. I opened up and I started teaching people

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Speaker 1: on line, so I've worked with I worked with people

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Speaker 1: in England and Holland, in New Jersey, in Minnesota. If

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Speaker 1: you can get on stage and get online and send

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Speaker 1: me a set and I can look at it and

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Speaker 1: we can face time and talk about your work. You

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Speaker 1: can take my class. So it's been incredibly successful. It

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Speaker 1: was something that I didn't see come and it because

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Speaker 1: it's something that I love and I love talking about

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Speaker 1: Communito comedians Saran. We go to comedy clubs and work

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Speaker 1: out and then we go to stream to the diner

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Speaker 1: or to the restaurant and sit there and talk to

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Speaker 1: another two hours about stand up you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like that's just when we knew so like this just

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Speaker 1: a lot of me and gave I said, why don't

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Speaker 1: I share this information? The reason I charge you is

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02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: because I'm giving you twenty plus years of experience and

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Speaker 1: I'm spending time away from my family to give you something.

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02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: So that is what it's the cost of it. But

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Speaker 1: now with this Netflix special out and the success of

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Speaker 1: my producing career and people just seeing me perform, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable how great the class has been received

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Speaker 1: and the dope stuff that we're doing. I just love it, man,

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Speaker 1: I love it because it comes from my chest. Well,

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Speaker 1: the special is a fantastic I'm talking to David a

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Speaker 1: on Or stand up comic expert, actor, writer, that's that's

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Speaker 1: what you call the triple threat. You know, I was that,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was shitcome manager comic, you know, as

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Speaker 1: a comedian is perform all over the country, various specials

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02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 1: and uh, I know, we got the pandemic right now

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02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: is shutting down a lot of opportunities right now. But

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Speaker 1: the beauty of it is that I saw you, man,

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Speaker 1: I saw you, and I just had to show your

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Speaker 1: love and respect and bring you on my show Money

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Speaker 1: Conversations and uh tell the world you know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know. The amazing thing about the show, David, is

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Speaker 1: that so many people have told me how indirectly or

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Speaker 1: directly affected them, and that it always catches me off

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Speaker 1: guard because I'm always man that just uh, since i

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Speaker 1: was eighteen years old, I've always been paying it forward,

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Speaker 1: you know, and whether I whether my computer classes or

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Speaker 1: my degree was in mathematics, helping people, trying to trying

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02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 1: to pull them up, trying to pull them up and

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Speaker 1: to see that that that's still that's still part of

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Speaker 1: your your DNA with your class. Please do not stop

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Speaker 1: your classes, please, that is Paul, will you. I will

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02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 1: not stop them. I will not stop. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you guys were to you should follow me on Instagram

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02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:10,880
Speaker 1: and god David a Arnold or David a Arnold on

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Speaker 1: on Facebook. And I'm across the board and just you know, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: all of it and just go for this rime. And

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about some of the stuff that's coming up.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about everything I'm doing. And I'm finally

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Speaker 1: feeling like I'm getting a little bit of a daylight

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Speaker 1: to get shined on me for the hard work that

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02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,400
Speaker 1: I've been doing that and I'm gonna take every piece

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Speaker 1: of it. But no that I got a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of work to do. Still, look here, a big fan,

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Speaker 1: will you do that next special? It got to be

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Speaker 1: in the arena. It gotta be in front of you.

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02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:50,839
Speaker 1: That wh you said that. That's what they told me somebody,

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02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: the person that called me told me the exact thing.

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Speaker 1: But it will be just what I do, David, David

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Speaker 1: will be And I know Netflix is uh is the

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Speaker 1: network he's streaming on. Very special is produced by under

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Speaker 1: the banner of Kevin Hard. So you know it's fantastic

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02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 1: because he's more. Even more fantastic is that he's funny.

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Speaker 1: He's a good looking guy, he's a good looking guy.

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Speaker 1: So that that helps. That helps, that help, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny you're saying help, But I

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Speaker 1: could tell you many times when it is hurt and

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Speaker 1: been an obstacle, people be like, who is this light

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Speaker 1: skin curly in? Oh my god, David, it man hurt

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Speaker 1: you back then. But brother, okay, the social media is

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