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Right now on w T I I'm 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett, and that's a Bloomberg Business Flash. This is 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: taking stock with pim Box and Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Japanese internet and telecommunications conglomerates SoftBank Group. It's buying the 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: UK based designer of the microprocessors that power your smartphone. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: At least more than of the world smartphones contain arm 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: holding chips. It is a thirty two billion dollar deal, 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: and the deal well, it's cements SoftBank's new strategy and 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: the Internet of things, at least according to the company. 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Here to tell us more on En Trinevason, Senior Semiconductor 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: and Hardware analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Of course, Bloomberg Intelligence 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: provides unique real time research and a variety of industries 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and all of the market and government factors that affect 31 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: businesses are terminal. Customers can access this function by just 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: typing b I go on the Bloomberg on and thanks 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: very much for being here. So tell me why is 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: it really about the Internet of things? Why is Marcio 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Chi San of soft Banks spending thirty two billion for 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: arm Holdings. This gives them an entry into the intellectual 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: property of multiple devices in multiple in markets without the 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: messiness of having to make hardware or having to make chips. 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: Here you control pure intellectual property, You controller to the source, 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and you proliferate multiple in markets phones, tablets, auto networking gear, 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: DVR players, and so on, including the Internet of Things, 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: without having to make chips, without having to make hardware. 43 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: In fact, if you were a chip maker or a 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: hardware maker and had attempted to buy ARM, you would 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: lose a lot of revenue from potentially your peers who 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: are seeking to license ARM property. So this was a 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: clean um acquisition from slightly outside of the food chain, 48 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot 49 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: of sense? Does it make a lot of sense? And 50 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: as much as they spent soft Bank spent what twenty 51 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: billion dollars three years ago to purchase Sprint, is this 52 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: going to give Sprint a leg up? The question is 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: does it have a flexibility? Does it leave enough flexibility? 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: From um SoftBank's perspective, both from our debt and equity 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: side and massasan at the conference called this morning, suggested 56 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: that Print Frint was a self sustaining entity and that 57 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to put in more money in that 58 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: direction and with um ARM he potentially gains a free 59 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: casual producing assets. So potentially he could reap some of 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: the gains here and allows him some flexibility to invest 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: in other places. Although he contended that that was not 62 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: his name. What about the actual purchase price thirty two billion? 63 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: This this wasn't a cheap acquisition by any stretch, but 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: given its edition within the industry, it's one or maybe 65 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: five clean players who have this kind of a position 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: in the chip business. Um, you knew that the price 67 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: was going to be high and a premium was certainly 68 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: going to be extracted, and that is the case here. 69 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: And you mentioned that this company Arm Holdings, it does 70 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: not manufacture microprocessors, It just designs them correct. So what 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: they do is they produce basic building blocks. I think 72 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: of it from a lego structure. I produce blue, green, yellow, 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: um building blocks, and you can then take that and 74 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: build whatever structure you want. You can use them as 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: this chances how you may not be able to differentiate 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: your product as much, but then you can make your 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: grand castle in the sky and have it be dramatically 78 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: different from your competitors product. And it licenses designs right, 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: the licensing almost the blueprints correct. So one part of 80 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: their business is you take a license and you build 81 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: stuff based off of their building blocks. The second part 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: of their revenue, which is a bigger poor the revenue 83 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: quite frankly comes to to three years later when you 84 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: actually ship the product and it becomes popular. They take 85 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: a small piece of the royalties based on the value 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: of the chip that will sold to you. Do you 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: think that this will inspire other telecoms to go out 88 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and try to purchase the same kind of intellectual property 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: company that soft Bank has done. It's a very interesting play. 90 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. There are a whole lot of targets 91 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: out there. Imagination Technology is the most comparable near term 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: local pier, but again, Imagination is focused on graphics alone, 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: um much smaller for print, much smaller and market focus, 94 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: and much smaller function focused. So I don't know if 95 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of plays out there. What does 96 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: it tell you that soft Bank recently sold it's Ali 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: Baba steak. It also recently sold the stake in the 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: finished mobile game maker. Many investors thought that maybe that 99 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: money was going to go to paid down debt. Not so. Look, 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: there's there's clearly a change of strategy here from a 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: soft Bank perspective. One of the change of management too 102 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: a couple of the last couple of months sure Nication's departure. Uh. 103 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: The question is this is to some degree this is 104 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: not We shouldn't think of this as buying a chip entity. 105 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: This is something that benefits from chip proliferation and the 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: popularity of chip content in a variety of vent devices. 107 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: So think of it as chip lebble software if you 108 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Mane tell us a little bit about the Uh. The 109 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: creator really of SoftBank Maso's son, because he started out 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: in the magazine business. Sure. So this is UM. This 111 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: is I mean Michelle ma is our Japanese um UM 112 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: telecom UM and listen, she's actually based in Hong Kong. 113 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: So testament to b eyes reach. And one of the 114 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: things that UM she has written is that you know, 115 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: it has a lot of different assets that it tries 116 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: to monetize and obviously some have worked out a little 117 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: bit better than others. So moving these pieces around, both 118 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: in terms of people, as you mentioned, management changes off 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: late as well as the efficacy of these under laying businesses. 120 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's cash coming in here is dead coming and there. 121 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: So they moved a lot of things around, but he 122 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: He claims to have a long term focus um, but 123 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: the near term is messy. Will see how the near 124 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: term plays out. Thank you very much for spending time 125 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and explaining all this on True of Austin, senior Semiconductor 126 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: and hardware analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. 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