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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Sheeler Matt Williamson with you here for

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Speaker 2: the next two hours on a Wednesday. And Matt, not

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Speaker 2: much has happened in the twenty two hours since we

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Speaker 2: were last on air.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess other than maybe one of the.

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Speaker 2: Most controversial trade moments in league history. As now Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens is off. They failed him

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Speaker 2: for his physical. He is now once again a Raider.

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Speaker 2: This is an unbelievable story. I had said to you,

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Speaker 2: and we had said on Monday, there'll be some stuff

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Speaker 2: that changes. Yeah, yeah, up the example of him from

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Speaker 2: a few years ago when he initially it was reported

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Speaker 2: he was going to sign with the Jags, but he

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Speaker 2: ended up coming back to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: We've seen things like that happen in the in the past,

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Speaker 3: but Matt.

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Speaker 4: This every year there's something small like that.

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Speaker 3: This is a different beast.

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Speaker 2: Though this is a major moment, controversial moment here, writes

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Speaker 2: Smack Dab In the middle of this process.

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Speaker 4: I think it's shady as can be. And I would

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Speaker 4: say this if this was the Bears or not, because

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Speaker 4: the Steelers rival, they don't care.

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Speaker 3: I think you respect the Ravens more than most people.

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Speaker 4: Organization. Yeah, yeah, Now they actually do have a history

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Speaker 4: of this. I've heard a couple of people saying there's

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Speaker 4: been three or four guys that they've dinged. And I

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Speaker 4: forget what receiver it was like seven or eight years

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Speaker 4: ago that they medical they had him signed, supposedly had

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Speaker 4: him medically rejected him because that day a different receiver

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Speaker 4: got cut that they liked better that they signed like

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Speaker 4: the next day, which kind of shame on the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Grant, that's it, and Michael Brockers so currently they

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Speaker 2: did it in twenty eighteen and several examples.

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Speaker 4: I was listening to Warren Sharp, he had like four

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Speaker 4: or five of them that this team has done this too.

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Speaker 4: So I don't believe that this is on the up

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Speaker 4: and up at all. I think it's frankly, just would

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Speaker 4: we rather have Hendrickson at similar money. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the two contracts are off the top of my head,

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Speaker 4: or Crosby or Henderson and two first round picks or.

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Speaker 3: Maybe even a little less money.

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Speaker 4: May be a little less money or Crosby. I think

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Speaker 4: that's all came down to was better business, and I

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Speaker 4: think we'd all take Hendrickson. Crosby is the better player,

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Speaker 4: but he's not too first on fix better. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's a little younger, he's a better player. So there's that.

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Speaker 4: Now they're going to counter with, well, we were thinking

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Speaker 4: about signing them both. Look, we just opened up forty

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Speaker 4: million in Lamar money. We're gonna sign both these guys.

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Speaker 4: They weren't in that way. The thing is to me,

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Speaker 4: it's not even a raven thing, or they're being shady

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Speaker 4: or whatever. Let's just say the Raiders did not have

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Speaker 4: an extreme amount of cap space. They just a normal

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Speaker 4: team with normal amount of cap space, and they make

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Speaker 4: this trade in principle and then they can't sign Linderbomb

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Speaker 4: now or like all the ripples. That's to me, that's

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Speaker 4: the loop. It can't happen in the league.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling that this is going.

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Speaker 4: Out, just like I wouldn't have traded for Shaun Garry.

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Speaker 4: I would have I would have traded for Crosby, and

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Speaker 4: the Bears are like I was gonna I would have

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Speaker 4: signed Linderbaum if you couldn't, I wouldn't have traded for

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Speaker 4: a center. And there's this ripple, ripple ripple all over

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Speaker 2: You know, like Indianapolis Colts are Like we thought we

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Speaker 2: had Trey Hendrickson ready to sign a deal and he

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Speaker 2: had gone to Baltimore instead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not going away.

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Speaker 4: No, it should be investigated because it could be a

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Speaker 4: lot worse.

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Speaker 2: You and I and what about two and a half

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Speaker 2: weeks I think it is, are going to be flying

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Speaker 2: out to Phoenix for the NFL league meetings. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Would be really concerned because this could gone a lot worse.

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Speaker 2: This I think is going to change this time period

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Speaker 2: tell it, Yeah, you can tell me if that's too drastic.

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Speaker 4: No, I was going to say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Look at this and it's gonna be one of those

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Speaker 2: we can never let something like this happen again. So

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Speaker 2: how do we make sure it never happens.

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Speaker 4: There's no quote legal tampering or anything. I don't know

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Speaker 2: No negotiating period, nothing, It's just free agency is going

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Speaker 2: to open at this time this.

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Speaker 4: Day, which it happened many years ago. But everybody tampered, right,

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Speaker 3: There will never be a perfect system.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that you can get much better

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Speaker 2: than one that you know, has teams agree to a

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Speaker 2: trade and and and go through the player. Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: posted a twelve minute, thirteen minute goodbye video to Raiders

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Speaker 2: Nation on his social media. Yeah, he was in bald

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Speaker 2: He's in Baltimore with his family, apparently like looking for houses.

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Speaker 2: Of course that that came out old his house and

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Speaker 2: what happened. I realized, there's never going to be a

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Speaker 2: perfect way to do this, but this is this is

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Speaker 2: going to affect significant change in this process.

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Speaker 4: I mean I wonder, will there just be a starting date,

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Speaker 4: you know, like okay, Tuesday at four o'clock is the

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Speaker 4: league opening. That's when you guys can do your deals.

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Speaker 4: If you tamper, we're gonna take a first round pick off.

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Speaker 4: You like, scare the heck out of teh you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean that In the past, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's illegal, but again, this could if if

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Speaker 4: the Raiders couldn't have made all the moves they did,

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Speaker 4: or other trades, other moves. What do you say, like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: the salary cap doesn't apply to you, guys, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean the other things about it too, Like it

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Speaker 4: bothers me that they said, well, he didn't pass the physical,

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Speaker 4: you know how I hate talking about injuries. But he's

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Speaker 4: not gonna pass any physical. He's not right.

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Speaker 3: He just had a meniscus surgery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, so he's not going to pass a physical today.

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Speaker 4: But I think the way this works, and I've never

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Speaker 4: his progress. Here he's on a treadmill working out. So

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Speaker 4: I feel confident enough that I'm going to trade for

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Speaker 4: him because he's healing in the right manner. A lot

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Speaker 4: of people get traded that aren't one hundred percent that

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Speaker 4: would not pass a physical as if, you know, because

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Speaker 4: they got something ailing them that's healing.

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson is recovering from an age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, right? Is he passing a physical?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: Like, and I bet in by the end of the

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Speaker 4: I'm just making teams up. Are gonna be like he

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Speaker 4: passed our physical, Yeah, in two days from now, you know. So,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's really shady and could

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Speaker 4: be a league changing event because this could be catastrophic.

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Speaker 4: I mean the ripple effect through the.

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Speaker 3: League, especially for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's yeah, there's no denying that one. They

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Speaker 2: spent as we laid out, I mean, close to three

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Speaker 4: What's that they thought they had to spend.

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Speaker 3: What's their salary cap look like?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know. Maybe they were flush enough

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Speaker 4: I brought it up immediately. Maybe they get away with it,

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Speaker 4: but most teams wouldn't have been able to dump thirty

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Speaker 2: And then let's say that that was the case, and

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Speaker 2: the Raiders look at Roger Goodell like, what do you

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Speaker 4: I mean, right, we had to say it's a stealer.

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Speaker 3: We had this agreement in place for two or three days.

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Speaker 4: Let's say it's the Steelers and they traded TJ Watt

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Speaker 4: to the Raven. Of course what never happened. Sure, and

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Speaker 4: the same thing happens, and then they they go, well

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Speaker 4: TJ's coming back, right, Well, we traded for Pittman and

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Speaker 4: gave them twenty million. I can't afford both.

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Speaker 3: This contract, right, so what.

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Speaker 4: Do I do with them? You know, like that could

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Speaker 2: And that would have been what was really and I

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Speaker 2: out and said they're honoring all of their agreements. This

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Speaker 2: doesn't change the agreements that they have in place that

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Speaker 2: you know, become official today. But man, what if they did.

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Speaker 2: What if they were like, well, now we have to

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Speaker 2: go back on this contract, in this contract, and we.

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Speaker 4: Thought we were had the thirteenth pick in the draft,

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Speaker 4: so we made these moves because I knew I could

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Speaker 4: thinking Crosby was gone. I never would have signed this, dude.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't need three defensive ends or whatever,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, it's just you make

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Speaker 4: moves based on what happened, and this is probably small potatoes,

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Speaker 4: but now the league knows what your price was for

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Speaker 4: him too. You kind of showed your hand to in

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Speaker 4: the trade. If you're the Raiders, what it took.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Raiders, you're never You're never getting a

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Speaker 4: It's going to be less.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be less than that.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be less than that. Maybe it's ninety

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Speaker 4: eight percent of it, but it's probably gonna be eighty

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Speaker 4: five percent of it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: These I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like they set to play next year, by chance,

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Speaker 2: that would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: I know Hendrickson set to play against the Bengals, right,

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Speaker 4: that's right, which probably fact it into But I mean, like,

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Speaker 4: would have Tampa made the deal or Chicago and now

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Speaker 4: they can't and that they'd have to cut somebody to

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Speaker 4: do it. And I told you, uh, Dj Moore would

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Speaker 4: have went to the Raiders. That's the best they could

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Speaker 4: have done. Or you know, I mean, it's just Evan.

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Speaker 2: Evan Sidery, who covers the Colts in Indianapolis, tweeted out

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson was going to sign with the Colts before

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Speaker 2: the Ravens pivoted to him. Now Indianapolis must must pivot

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Speaker 2: themselves after being all in on Hendrickson and missing out

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Speaker 2: on one of the top pass rushers in the process.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't bother me as much because that probably happens

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Speaker 4: all the time in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Because of a specific example like this.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, sure, you have players down to two teams.

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Speaker 2: He takes a little bit of a it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a I don't even want to say dirty game.

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Speaker 2: That is the game.

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Speaker 4: That's a bus Yeah, that's a business. So okay, I

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Speaker 4: got five offers. I'm only going to pick one. Four

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Speaker 4: teams are going to be unhappy or do ever. Game

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Speaker 4: in second is gonna be unhappy. It's like recruiting. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Chose one over the other, Yes, and we all would have.

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Speaker 4: So well, I don't know if the Ravens even did

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Speaker 3: We'll put the letter of the law by the letter

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Speaker 4: But it also wouldn't shock me if there are leagues

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's but the NFL can suspend

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Speaker 3: That's a good point too, you hurt the shield.

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Speaker 4: This is closer to like having the deed sign. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not going anywhere, it's just getting started.

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Speaker 2: And we're certainly going to be keeping an eye on this.

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Speaker 4: But we do see this all time with like criminal

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Speaker 4: Because we can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe they'll be like

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Speaker 4: It's getting swept off the board or what you know,

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Speaker 3: Old Bay now belongs to Las Vegas. It's no longer

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Speaker 3: this goes from here, Matt, because this story is far

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk in a few minutes with our

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Speaker 2: Matt some significant Steelers news. According to Jerry Dulac and

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Speaker 3: For this season right now.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure you got a chunk now, which is

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Speaker 2: Avoids any potential negotiating snaffoos in training camp like we

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Speaker 3: An unbelievable season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: To my immediate takeaways were like, Okay, it opened up

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Speaker 4: why they did it. Sure, but now there's no speculation

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Speaker 2: Let's see here's according to uh Intrepid video producer Tyler V,

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Speaker 4: Real quick, I'm marrying because I was listening to this

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Speaker 3: That's important.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh by the way, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh by the way, shoulder was fine.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, Baltimore voided a four year, twenty million

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Speaker 4: Over That one was super shady because he had him.

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Speaker 4: It'd be like if you at him sign now and

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Speaker 2: Steelers did something to to Ck Snay the Michael Pittman

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Speaker 4: Like, oh right, never Joe Hayden got cut, we'renna Heyham instead,

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Speaker 4: he won't pass a physical, but he'll be traded for

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Speaker 2: Know this is this is one of those very tough

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Speaker 4: I threw this out too, Like just from a raven's perspective,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but then Henderson's a little bit cheaper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're in the same neighbor as you know.

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Speaker 4: You're right, So what are you doing with the forty

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Speaker 4: Like are they can take the thirteenth pick and trade

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Speaker 4: have had Max. Well, I'm going to try to shim

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think if they were going to spend some

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Speaker 3: To that ship might sail because those guys.

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Speaker 4: Trading for Trent or Trent Williams or you know what

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Speaker 3: I tell you this right now though.

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Speaker 2: If I'm any one of the other thirty one teams

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Speaker 4: After four o'clock, Yeah for sure, right, yeah, true. Just

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Speaker 2: I'm blocking your number when it is those forty eight

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Speaker 2: if you damage the shield, that's the biggest.

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Speaker 4: No no in the end of no right and their

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Speaker 2: This could have been worse, but it still damages the shield.

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Speaker 2: This is still not the type of story that Roger

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Speaker 2: it should be about all these details and going through yeah.

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Speaker 2: Instead it's this disagreement in this he said, she said,

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Speaker 2: they don't leave these things when something like this happens.

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Speaker 2: They don't leave it the chance in the future, they claim,

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Speaker 2: after they put new parameters and make sure something like

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Speaker 4: Went so much worse.

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Speaker 2: It's right, point, yeah, Because what if the Raiders were

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Speaker 4: Yeah right?

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Speaker 2: What if what if the Bears and the Cowboys and

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Speaker 4: Cowboys a perfect example like we would not have traded

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Speaker 3: It's wild. I mean, this is this is a we've again,

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Speaker 4: No, and it's you know, the nose tackle, right, Okay,

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Speaker 4: he changed his mind, so what But it's not a

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Speaker 2: Know, with a massive caper and multiple first and there

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's kind of a risk you take, yes, But

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Speaker 2: This is a different, different beast and it's certainly not

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Speaker 2: shaking here in a busy week in the NFL Washueler

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a busy Wednesday, a

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Speaker 2: controversial Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we will, We're gonna.

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Speaker 2: We're doing the Aaron Rodgers audible at the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: surveyed the situation. Our buddy Chris Hallick, asking if he

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Speaker 2: could bump back just a segment for us, so we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to him about ten fifteen minutes from now, Matt.

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Speaker 2: But wait, there's more, Billy mays. It sounds like the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've we kind of left yesterday talking about

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Speaker 2: the potential four could still add an offensive line guard, certainly,

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Speaker 2: could still add on the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: You could still add it safety. Those were kind of

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Speaker 3: the three areas that we had really laid out there.

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Speaker 4: What sounds seemed like it needed to happen. The others

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Speaker 4: would be nice.

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Speaker 3: A little more luxury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, some insurance pieces and things like that.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds like, according to Tom Pellisero, according to

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Speaker 2: NBC Sports, veteran safety Darnell Savage signing a one year

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Speaker 2: deal with the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting. He's had an interesting career. So he was

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Speaker 4: a first round pick six years ago something like that

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Speaker 4: out of Maryland. Really good athlete, a little bit of

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Speaker 4: an undersized safety, but also was a little ahead of

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Speaker 4: his time, and that he was a safety. They would

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Speaker 4: also play the slot and blitz, and you know that

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Speaker 4: wasn't as common then. Even though it seems like was

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Speaker 4: it that long ago? I was told by a good

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Speaker 4: source that if that was the year the Steelers traded

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Speaker 4: up for Bush correct if they would have hung at

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Speaker 4: twenty or twenty one or whoever that when in hindsight,

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Speaker 4: if looking at their board, Savage would have been their

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Speaker 4: selection had they stayed true.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers originally were supposed to draft twenty in

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Speaker 2: that draft, and Savage went twenty first.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So so that adds up. And they had they

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Speaker 4: had linebacker safety needs that year. They needed like middle

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Speaker 4: of the field hell in a big way. Now, Kevin

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Speaker 4: Colbert didn't tell me that, and I didn't go into

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Speaker 4: their war room and see it, but people told me

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Speaker 4: that they were highly, highly interested, and that's probably would

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Speaker 4: have been their pick. Now, I also kind of interested

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Speaker 4: to find that interesting, mentioning Kevin that, Okay, that's great,

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Speaker 4: But was anybody in charge now even involved then?

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Speaker 3: Omar Cohn was in a very different role role, but.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was in the war room. And all

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Speaker 4: those reports are in the system, like you can go

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Speaker 4: back to the Browns. I'm sure my report.

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Speaker 3: Every twenty years and things like that are the same.

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Speaker 4: That's changed a lot to really.

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Speaker 3: Andy Widel wasn't with the organization, h.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, yeah, yeah, But at least their college reports

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Speaker 4: were high on them. Or whatever, and he did go

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Speaker 4: to the Packers and I assume he overlapped with McCarthy there.

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Speaker 4: He had to have I would think, so McCarthy probably

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Speaker 4: drafted him.

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Speaker 3: He was with the Packers from nineteen to twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so McCarthy drafted him. Yes, he wasn't alone. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure it wasn't a tough sell.

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Speaker 6: Then.

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Speaker 4: If arthy drafted him, Steal organization was really high on him.

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Speaker 4: Now A lot changes in what six years or since

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Speaker 4: his draft day, and a lot's change with this player too,

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Speaker 4: because early in his Packers' career he was like a

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, big influence on the game, type of player,

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Speaker 4: flying around, athletic, aggressive, take the ball away, do a

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Speaker 4: lot of stuff. But lately he's bounced around with like

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Speaker 4: three different teams in two years. So he still has

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Speaker 4: the abilities. He's had some injuries. He's not the biggest

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Speaker 4: guy in the world. For as physical as he can play.

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Speaker 4: At times, I think there's some instances of him not

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Speaker 4: being super aggressive in terms of sticking his face into tackle.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, I like picking him up.

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Speaker 4: I like that's a Tomlin thing too. I love the

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Speaker 4: pedigree guys that you get at a massive discount later

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Speaker 4: in their career. But I don't think your safety is

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Speaker 4: is solved. I kind of think it's like when they

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Speaker 4: picked up Pap or Dugger. That's worth the risk. These

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Speaker 4: guys have pedigree, they've done good things. Maybe to work out,

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Speaker 4: maybe it won't.

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Speaker 3: If you had to play a game this weekend, you could,

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Speaker 3: you know, you could.

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Speaker 4: Come out there. Yeah, yeah, and maybe you get the

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Speaker 4: camp and be like, hey drafted two and he is

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Speaker 4: gonna make the team. I don't I have not seen

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Speaker 4: the contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like it's just a one year kind

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Speaker 3: of prove it type deal.

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Speaker 4: I would think probably not a lot of guaranteed Money's

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Speaker 4: my hunt.

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Speaker 2: He's still twenty eight years old, will turn twenty nine

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Speaker 2: at the end of July, so they July thirtieth.

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Speaker 4: Actually, okay, two off seasons ago, Jacksonville gave him a

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Speaker 4: pretty big contract, Like the first time he hit free agency,

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Speaker 4: and that wasn't long ago. He was pretty highly sought after.

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Speaker 4: But then he had a short stint with Washington. He

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Speaker 4: had a really short stint with the Bills. I don't

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Speaker 4: even know if he saw the field with the Bills at

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Speaker 4: the end of last year. So and didn't do much

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Speaker 4: in those two spots, So I mean it's a flyer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I'm wrong. Mike McCarthy did not coach him

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay. That was Matt Lafir's first year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yep, yeah, I knew as we close, so okay.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I would imagine maybe some people from that

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Speaker 2: coaching staff are familiar with him.

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Speaker 3: Shirley and uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at this stage of the game, that's

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Speaker 2: the type of guy your business is. Obviously, this does

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Speaker 2: not you know, wash your hands and you're done in

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Speaker 2: the safety market.

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Speaker 4: No, not at all, but to getting another body in

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Speaker 4: there that might be helpful. And he's definitely different than

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Speaker 4: you're probably like, why and you just bring back Dugger

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Speaker 4: or Clark or Pepper's Well, they're all more strong types.

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Speaker 4: Savage is more the rangey. He is more f freeze type,

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Speaker 4: you know, which doesn't matter as much as it used to.

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Speaker 4: But I don't want to be real repetitive with Elliott.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on that one. I'm completely with you

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Speaker 3: on that one. Matt.

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Speaker 2: Some other pieces of significant news across the league that

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Speaker 2: are worthy of bringing up here in the first segment

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Speaker 2: or two of the show. It sounds like Indianapolis. Jones himself,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will return to the Colts, finalizing a two year,

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Speaker 2: eighty eight million dollars deal that could be worth up

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Speaker 2: to one hundred million with incentives. Sixty million of that.

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Speaker 4: Guarantee, you know, big chunks guarantee.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a that's a substantial investment, about forty four

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Speaker 2: million a year for a guy that's coming off a

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Speaker 2: late seasons significant injury.

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Speaker 4: So I assume that the Jones camp, and probably the

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Speaker 4: Colts camp, is like, Okay, let's dough two years. If

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Speaker 4: it works out, great, we'll just give you a real,

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Speaker 4: big paid a after that. And this is a big

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Speaker 4: paid eight no matter what. But I'm with you, I

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Speaker 4: think this could go drastically wrong. I mean, all that

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Speaker 4: money guarantee.

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Speaker 3: This is not a bridge deal.

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Speaker 2: This is like what I would have thought he would

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Speaker 2: have gotten if he would have stayed healthy and they

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs and he finished the year strong.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and they're kind of rewarding him as if that's

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Speaker 4: how it went. Not to mention, his career was not

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Speaker 4: stellar before he got the Indianapolis, you know, right, But

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Speaker 4: so like the day they made the sauce trade, Daniel Jones'

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Speaker 4: agent did cartwheels because he's like, well, now that the

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Speaker 4: first round picks, right, they don't have many other options

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Speaker 4: to replace my clients. And that was before Jones got hurt.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's when they were rolling. I think we

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Speaker 4: all remember, like when we previewed Steelers Colts, they were

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Speaker 4: like the best offensive league.

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Speaker 3: Averaging three points something points per drive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Now Taylor was Offensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 4: I also remember that their level of competition was really

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Speaker 4: poor leading into that game, and things went much different

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Speaker 4: post Steeler game for them. But a lot of it's

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Speaker 4: because Jones got hurt once and then he got hurt

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Speaker 4: again on the same leg. I guess. But quarterbacks after

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Speaker 4: Achilles injuries have terrible records. I mean, like, I think

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Speaker 4: how long it took Aaron Rodgers to come back after

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Speaker 4: his Achilles And there's not a ton of examples, but

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Speaker 4: there's no good examples, and I doubt he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: ready to start the year. I think a ton of

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Speaker 4: it is just I think we read after the Steelers

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Speaker 4: trade for Pittman, all the different quarterbacks that he's played

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Speaker 4: with in Indianapolis. I just think They want stability, you know,

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Speaker 4: like we run the same guy back for two years

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Speaker 4: in a row. It's been worse there than a pitch.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's certainly been worse. And he's been the best

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Speaker 3: since probably Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a yeah, stability, there's really what and what

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Speaker 2: is door two? What is the go fish option? There

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Speaker 2: is no I mean unless you love a guy like

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray or like that. Really no, you don't have

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Speaker 2: a first round draft pick. You're not in position to

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Speaker 2: bring in somebody in free agency that's really going to

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Speaker 2: tip the scales.

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Speaker 4: And it went really well. It did for a bit, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, right when he was healthy. It was going well.

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Speaker 2: I mean they had they have a nice crop a

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Speaker 2: wide receivers, a good young tight end, a really good

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Speaker 2: running back. The offensive line is an elite, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's strong. I mean, if it equation though, sure, sure,

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Speaker 2: but you hope you know Warren takes a step forward

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Speaker 2: and gets a little bit better in some of those things.

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Speaker 2: Player and you know, right, but yeah, they they it's

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Speaker 2: certainly a big, big year for him. I mean, even

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Speaker 2: if he's I would think, like you said, certainly going

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Speaker 2: to miss some time at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: If if he can get back to looking close to

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Speaker 2: what he did last year. No one's really going to

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Speaker 2: be screaming about that contract. But if it goes poorly,

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Speaker 2: weof that's gonna look that's gonna look cool.

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Speaker 4: The sure thing about the Achilles is he's very reliant

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Speaker 4: on mobility and designed runs and stuff too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's not a statue, right, you know, oh right, he

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Speaker 4: has to.

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Speaker 3: Be mobile now, that's one of the things that he does.

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Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, yeah, you know, like end of career Rogers

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Speaker 4: coming off of Achilles or Marino had an Achilles, Like

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Speaker 4: they weren't running anyways, you know, but it's still hurt

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Speaker 4: their careers a lot, but they were later in their careers.

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Speaker 3: Certainly a big one.

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Speaker 2: As more and more signings and news continue to h

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Speaker 2: to roll out here in a busy week across the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Going to take our last break of the first hour,

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Speaker 2: we will talk to Chris Hallock DK Pittsburgh Sports get

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on all this moving and shaken. When we

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Speaker 2: returned West Shuiler, Matt Williamson, it is the Drive Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 7: What's up, NFL fans, The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 7: and while you might not know who your team is

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Speaker 7: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

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Speaker 7: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 7: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the

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Speaker 7: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure

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Speaker 7: to order a round for the table before your team's

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Speaker 7: on the clock. Bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy,

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here closing down a busy first

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Speaker 2: hour on this Wednesday, joining us now. He is a

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Speaker 2: friend of the show. He is a friend in real life.

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Speaker 2: He's a regular here on the Drive. Chris Hallick DK,

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, thanks so much for taking the time

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Speaker 2: as always, buddy, you know we appreciate it. And we

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Speaker 2: got to ask you right off the jump about the

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Speaker 2: NFL story of the day, Max Crosby and the the

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Speaker 2: take back sies of the Baltimore Ravens, of that deal

685
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Speaker 2: and all the drama that's transpired in the last I

686
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Speaker 2: don't know, twenty hours or so. What are your thoughts

687
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Speaker 2: on this whole situation? Pretty crazy, huh.

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Speaker 6: To be completely honest, as soon as I saw the

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Speaker 6: report start flooding, I just let out a really, really

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Speaker 6: loud laugh. I mean, just like that good, hard belly

691
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Speaker 6: laugh that probably was gonna be in danger of waking

692
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Speaker 6: my children, but it was worth it. Listen, like this

693
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Speaker 6: whole negotiating window. And I refuse to use the term

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Speaker 6: legal tampering, by the way, it just drives me duck.

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Speaker 6: But this all negotiating window, it was kind of fun.

696
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Speaker 6: And this only adds to the fun. I mean, the

697
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Speaker 6: whole like you said, take back to these that the

698
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Speaker 6: Ravens did. Let's see, nothing becomes official until you know

699
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 6: the new league here. I mean, they see, they thought

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Speaker 6: something they didn't like. They wanted to back out, didn't

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Speaker 6: think it was worth the conversation they were giving, and

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Speaker 6: I guess that's their right. But man alive, the Raiders

703
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: went forward and spent a whole bunch of money. Now

704
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Speaker 6: they got to figure out what they're going to do.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's really crazy. So you we have not spoke

707
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Speaker 4: since the combine, and obviously the Steelers have some new additions.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like reportedly Darnell Savage is going to be

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Speaker 4: a Pittsburgh Steeler. We were just kind of breaking them

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Speaker 4: down a little bit. Initial thoughts last segment. I have

711
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Speaker 4: not done a deep dive on them. I know the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years haven't been great. But what are

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Speaker 4: your thoughts on Sava.

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Speaker 6: I'm still in the process of doing my deep dive. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the other some of the other guys Savages My initial reaction,

716
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Speaker 6: especially once you see the terms of the contracts one year,

717
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 6: it's barely like, barely above that minimum. I don't see

718
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Speaker 6: him like getting plugged in and.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's a starter right away, I think.

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Speaker 6: What it doesn't. It solidifies the depths. It gives you

721
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Speaker 6: a guy that's proven that he can play at the

722
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Speaker 6: NFL level. Yeah, the last couple of years haven't been

723
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Speaker 6: so kind to him, so that's why, you, you know,

724
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Speaker 6: maybe it's worth the one year gamble. Maybe he you know,

725
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Speaker 6: realizes something that one Thornhill didn't realize last year, something

726
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Speaker 6: along those lines. But in the meantime, you know, you

727
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Speaker 6: have Jalen Ramsey, who you know could be either he

728
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Speaker 6: could still be in the slot, he could still play safety.

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Speaker 4: That was actually my next question for you, Like I'm

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Speaker 4: leaning towards they think he's a slot. What do you

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Speaker 4: think or is that just okay?

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Speaker 6: I would agree with that, But then when you look

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Speaker 6: at the depths that the Steelers have at corner, all

734
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Speaker 6: of a sudden with binding Jamal teams with bringing back

735
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Speaker 6: a Santi Sanuel Jr. Knowing that Brandon Eckles is still

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Speaker 6: in the mix, like all of a sudden corner what

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Speaker 6: we were talking about like at the combine, you know,

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Speaker 6: defensive back secondary being kind of in need. Corner is

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Speaker 6: not necessarily a need anymore, especially if you considered Ramsey

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Speaker 6: still a slot. But I think what what they have

741
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Speaker 6: at corner now, you're at least free to still decide

742
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Speaker 6: to do you want to have Ramsey be in the slot?

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Speaker 6: Do you want to have him play safety?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 6: And I think that also depends on what they do

746
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Speaker 6: in the draft now, because now he's at least shored

747
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Speaker 6: up the need at corner. Now you're free to kind

748
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Speaker 6: of do whatever you want to do. However the draft falls. Hey,

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Speaker 6: if a corner falls to you in whatever round, that

750
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Speaker 6: you weren't expecting the fall to you. We could take

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Speaker 6: that corner, we could fly to Ramsey safety, or if

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Speaker 6: the safety's there, because at like twenty one that you

753
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Speaker 6: weren't expecting to be there and all the receivers that

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Speaker 6: you were considering a twenty one are gone. Now, all

755
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Speaker 6: of a sudden safety in the first round doesn't seem

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Speaker 6: so crazy.

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Speaker 4: Agreed.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, it gives them options, gives them flexibility

759
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Speaker 6: in the draft, which is what you always want to

760
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Speaker 6: do in the draft. You don't ever go into this

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Speaker 6: draft having to address needs there.

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Speaker 4: I also think he's better at Nickel though, I agree, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: Do you take advantage of him as a blitzer? No,

765
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Speaker 6: you don't want to necessarily have him go out and

766
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Speaker 6: play press man. You know, our play just in straight

767
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 6: up man covers that often anymore. But I think if

768
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Speaker 6: like if he is like like eighty percent of Jalen Peatree,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah right, Texas, I'll take that.

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Speaker 4: And heartbeat, and I think that's why they traded for

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Speaker 4: him to do that. Agreed, Yeah, yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 2: Chris Alec with us here on the drive, Chris uh not,

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Speaker 2: just you know, imports and exports for the Steelers, but uh,

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00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: getting some business done with one of their own, agreeing

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Speaker 2: to terms with Cam Hayward two year contract little over

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Speaker 2: thirty two dollars UH in value there for the for

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Speaker 2: the All Pro who will turn thirty seven here in

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Speaker 2: a couple months.

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Speaker 3: Does this make a lot of sense?

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have any questions about his future

781
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: lingering heading into the offseason into OTAs and training camp

782
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Speaker 2: and all that. You know, lock up your your best

783
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Speaker 2: player and just get this done and dusted and settled.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've I've for those who know, like with

785
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Speaker 6: my history as a reporter, my first job ever in

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Speaker 6: the industry of like just sports journalists, and I covered

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Speaker 6: the Texas Rainiers for another outlet, and that was a

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Speaker 6: franchise that I paid attention to. They had a player

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Speaker 6: who's pretty well known as the Hall of Famer now

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00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 6: names eight Are and Beltray and he just got better

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Speaker 6: with age. Because I don't know why. There are just

792
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Speaker 6: some players that do at the age that they play

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00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 6: at they just continue to get better somehow. And I

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: see the same thing at Cam Hayward. He just continues

795
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 6: to get better. He's not just just look at this

796
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Speaker 6: past season and say, oh, he had a really good

797
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 6: season for his age. No, he had a really good

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00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 6: season period like the end of sentence. I voted for

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Speaker 6: him to be All NFL in.

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Speaker 5: My BFWA on my PFWA ballot. I thought he was

801
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 5: that good. He was one of the two guns defensive

802
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: sackles in the game last year and second team All Pro.

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Speaker 5: Is a nice consolation prize to that Cam continues.

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Speaker 6: To play at an elite level. And when you look

805
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 6: at the value regardless of age at this point, when

806
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: you look at the value of the contract what you're

807
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: gonna be paying, and he's still underpaid, like he really

808
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: is still underpaid. So for them to get it done

809
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: so that this doesn't possibly linger like it did last

810
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: year where it becomes a storyline during training camp. To

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Speaker 6: get an extension, you give him his guaranteed and money

812
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: up front. I think it's a great deal, I really do,

813
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: and pleasant it definitely settles the question of hey, like

814
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 6: defensive taggle, we're not going to be missing our best

815
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Speaker 6: player on the defensive side of the ball from last year.

816
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Speaker 6: Now now we still have him, and I have I

817
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: have the o reason to believe that he's gonna fall

818
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: up a clip next year. If his game does deteriorate,

819
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Speaker 6: it'll deteriorate. I don't see it falling off the cliffs.

820
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Speaker 6: And even then, you're still getting him out of bargain

821
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Speaker 6: for the level of play that he's provided. So I

822
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Speaker 6: think it's a great deal.

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Speaker 4: I do too. I think it's really encouraging too. So

824
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: they usually keep seven true defensive linemen. There's not many

825
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 4: spots available at this point. I still think they should

826
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Speaker 4: absolutely look to add more help there. Somebody that's more

827
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: knows ish is how I've been phrasing it. Do you agree?

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Speaker 4: Do you think they still add one more piece there,

829
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Speaker 4: either draft or free agency?

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Speaker 6: I prefer them too, And I would agree with the

831
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 6: nose tackle thing. Yeah, just just because when you look

832
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Speaker 6: at everybody else who they have. You look at you know,

833
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 6: Cam Heyward, you look at Keon Event and Eric Carmon,

834
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Speaker 6: Why a black they brought back a CEO to Maywell,

835
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Speaker 6: you look at everybody that they have. It's like, I

836
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: don't see a true nose there. I understand Keon Event

837
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Speaker 6: has been playing no sackle. I don't see him as

838
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Speaker 6: a true nose either, and so maybe why a blacks

839
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 6: eyed guy? But he's got to get that bad level lower.

840
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 6: He's gonna try to play that role.

841
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: I don't I would.

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Speaker 6: I would agree that, especially if you're gonna if you're

843
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: sticking to the three four, if you're in Parthy and

844
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 6: Patrick Graham, they've all been very clear about that they're

845
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: sticking to three four. Understand, you're not your base the

846
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 6: majority of the time anymore, that's just not the way

847
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 6: football goes anymore. But hey, you got to get somebody.

848
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 6: You know, you're you're still in base a certain percent

849
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: of the time. And when you're in your base that

850
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 6: you're going up against, you know, those teams that like

851
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 6: to run with those larger personnels and like to make

852
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: you play out a base. You got to have a

853
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 6: guy who's going to be able to eat up blockers.

854
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 6: And I don't know, maybe there's going to be a

855
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 6: resurgence of the nose tackle position. I don't know, because

856
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 6: the league's going back to larger personnel, so maybe maybe

857
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 6: need to get a use. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see a couple more minutes here with Chris, Alex,

859
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: Chris two other names of course that I want to

860
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: run by you and get your thoughts on the Steelers,

861
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: agreeing to terms with cornerback Jamel Dean and running back

862
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Speaker 2: Rico Doubtell just your thoughts on those two editions.

863
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Speaker 6: Well, the one thing about Dean that really stands out

864
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 6: is that he and Joey Porter Junior have something very

865
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: very very much in common outside of like size and

866
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 6: length and everything like that they don't allow their receivers

867
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Speaker 6: to catch touchdowns, Like they just don't let them score.

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Speaker 6: And that's kind of like a really good thing. If

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: it's not, like, yeah, that's that's uh. I mean when

870
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: you look at the streak that both of them have,

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 6: I think it's over what the past two seasons Borders

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Speaker 6: allowed done and Dean's allowed one, Like that's that's kind

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Speaker 6: of ridiculous. So yeah, I also like the fact that

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Speaker 6: Dean is not just a man press guy like he

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Speaker 6: he holds zone and zone coverage too. He's a really

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00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 6: good player. I thought that he was the best corner

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Speaker 6: on the market. I really like him a lot. Rico Dawdle,

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00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 6: but look, I really like I really liked the tandem

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 6: of Warren and gainwell, but it was a lot. It

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00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 6: was kind of like lightning and lightning, and with bringing

881
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 6: en Rico Daddle now you've got thunder and lightning again.

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Speaker 6: He got the guy who's gonna be able to run

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Speaker 6: between the tackles, who's gonna be able to who knows

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: how to run in like McCarthy's inside zone schemes. And

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Speaker 6: he's gonna be able to provide the sun for a

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Speaker 6: little bit. Not saying that Jalen Warrant can't provide some,

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Speaker 6: but now Jalen Warren can also get back to being,

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Speaker 6: you know, on the field on third down, which we

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00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 6: did not see a lot last year because Kenneth Gamwell

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00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: was that guy, and I I mean Matt, I know,

891
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 6: like our conversations, like Jalen Warnty's be on the field

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00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 6: on third down more often. He's great in pass protection,

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Speaker 6: he's a good option out of the backfield. I think

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Speaker 6: Pat frees him up to be more of that guy

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Speaker 6: you can spell dabtill at any time. I think it's

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Speaker 6: a really good addition to the running back room. I

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Speaker 6: think I might be. It's definitely gonna be one of

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Speaker 6: the hardest running backs running back deals to tackle, that's

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Speaker 6: for sure, because both of those guys are great after

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 6: after contact and great at forcing this tackles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they run hard, and they really dislike being tackled. Chris,

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Speaker 4: last thing I have for you, And you kind of

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Speaker 4: implied this already earlier in the conversation. You don't, would

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Speaker 4: you You wouldn't be shocked if wide receiver is one

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Speaker 4: of their first two picks still, even after the Pittman trade, right, No,

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Speaker 4: I would.

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Speaker 6: Not be surprised. I don't think trading from Michael Pittman

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Speaker 6: Junior changes that. I think it's a really good deal

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Speaker 6: for them, by the way, not just in the fact

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Speaker 6: that it was a late round take a swap, but

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Speaker 6: it's the contract. I think it's a good deal. But no,

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Speaker 6: I thought that no matter what they were going to do,

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Speaker 6: whether that be signing a free agent or acquiring one

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Speaker 6: via trade, that they were still going to go into

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Speaker 6: the draft and prioritize wide receiver. Now, it also depends

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Speaker 6: on how the draft fall last year. We last year,

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Speaker 6: we were talking all about defensive tackles, defensive tackles, and

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Speaker 6: they just so happened to draft a defensive tackle. It

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Speaker 6: also depended on how the draft fell. If all those

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Speaker 6: defensive tackles were gone, they weren't just gonna take the

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Speaker 6: next one, you know, they could have taken Matthew Golds,

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Speaker 6: and they could have taken somebody else that they really

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Speaker 6: liked in the first round. The draft's also going to

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Speaker 6: follow a certain way, too, But I do think that

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Speaker 6: if the draft falls a certain way and there's a

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Speaker 6: wide receiver that they really like available at twenty one,

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Speaker 6: I still think that where we sit right now. But

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Speaker 6: Mark eleven, I think that's the way that they that

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Speaker 6: they would go. So no, I don't think they're done

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Speaker 6: and adding wide receiver. When it comes to the big

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Speaker 6: picture of the options, not justin free agency, but also

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Speaker 6: including the draft as well. It's a good wide receiver class.

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Speaker 6: I have a hard time thinking they're not going to

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Speaker 6: take advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: I think the top two rounds will take one.

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Speaker 6: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Chris Alex great stuff as always. Check out his work

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Speaker 2: DK Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, thanks for the time as always, dude.

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Speaker 2: Good catching up with you and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: Awesome. Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: There he goes, that's an hour in the books. Another

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Speaker 3: hour to go.

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Speaker 2: We have some more moving and shaking around the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. I also want to talk with matt about

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Speaker 2: which NFL teams have improved the most in the last

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Speaker 2: few days, and we need to go over the list

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Speaker 2: of the names that are still out there and available.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably used time to do a little inventory

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Speaker 4: on that across.

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Speaker 2: The NFL and specifically with with Black and Gold Glasses.

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