1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, I guess you. 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I Smell pop Culture with Easton Allen and I Heart 3 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Radio Podcast. Hey everybody, Easton Allen, I am all in 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: Podcasts one eleven productions. iHeart Media, iHeart Radio, iHeart podcast. 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: It's I Smell pop culture. I smell pop culture. You 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: smell pop culture. We'll smell pop culture. And we're smelling 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: it here. Baby, we are back. We are exploring the 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: pop culture references in Gilmore Girls that we love. We're 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 2: going deeper than just listing them off. We're taking We're 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: taking a submarine into these references and we're exploring what 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: makes them a part of pop culture. We're talking to 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: the people that created them, that wrote these songs, that 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: play these characters, that are these people. 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: It's so exciting. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: My name is Easton Allen, and it's so great to 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: have you here with us. Something we love about Gilmore 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Girls is that is the pop culture references. I mean, 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: that's the whole impetus for this podcast. And when you 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: look at the grand scheme of what they have done, 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: everything they've referenced, books, movies, television, real life people. There's 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: one TV show that rises above the rest, and the 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: fine folks at Vulture have tallied all the pop culture 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: references in Gilmore Girls and categorize them by you how 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: many what books were referenced, what movies, what songs? And 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: when you look at TV shows, the one that was 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: referenced the most is Happy Days. Five references to Happy Days, 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: and of course of Gilmore Girls more than any other 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: TV show. I'm not going to list them all here, 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: but I'm going to list my favorite one. In season two, 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: episode four, It's The Road to Harvard, Rory and Loralai 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: are walking around and Harvard campus pretending to be students, 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: and they have this lauraizes this like cringe conversation with 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: some real students versus pretending to be like, Oh, you're 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: gonna go the Pie Alpha Gamma thing tomorrow. And after 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: they leave, Roy says, Laura, you do realize that all 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: of your college kid jargon comes from Happy Days in 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: the Valley Girls song, right, such a sick burn. Besides 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: all the references, Happy Days in Gilmore Girls actually shares 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: an actor Mary and Ross. She was Mary in Cunningham 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: in Happy Days, she was the mom. She's also Tricks 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: in Gilmore Girls and Marilyn Tricks's niece. But we're not 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: talking to Mary and Ross today. We're talking to another 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: star of Happy Days. We're talking to Don Most. Don 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: Most played Ralph Mouth on Happy Days. And I don't 45 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: know how much Happy Days you guys have seen. If 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: you haven't seen that much, you are doing yourself a disservice. 47 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: You have to watch Happy Days. It's so funny. Ralph 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Mouth is hysterical. He is so Everything he does is 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: so funny. He has such a great catchphrase, I still 50 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: got it, I still got it. It's so funny. We're 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: going to talk to Don mos all about that. But 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: here's the thing about Don Most. This man is a 53 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: layered performer. He is I mean, he was on one 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: of the most iconic and legendary sitcoms of all time. 55 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: But he's also he's directed movies, he guests starting a 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: million other shows, and he's a singer. This man has 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: the voice of an angel. He's got such an incredible voice, 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 2: and he's he's made some jazz albums. We're going to 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: talk about it all. We're gonna talk about Happy Days. 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: Don Mose is here with us. How's it going, Don, Oh, 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: It's going pretty well. 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Thanks for asking it's a little cold. I live 63 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: in Colorado. 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Now, Oh wow, Yeah, I moved about. 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: My wife and I moved here about a year and 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: a half ago, really liking it. Our daughter and granddaughter here, 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: so that was kind of the motivation. Oh excellent, we'll 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: pull right now. 69 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, let's see. I want to go back to you 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: the beginning. I am so fascinated by Happy Days. It's 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: one of those it's just such a touchstone in TV history, 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: one of the most legendary shows of all time. 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: How did you get involved with Happy Days? How did 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: that happen? 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: Okay? Well, I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, and 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: about the age of thirteen, I started going to a 77 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: school in Manhattan on Saturdays. I remember taking the subway 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: at thirteen from Brooklyn into Manhattan to a school a studio, 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: Charlie Lowe Studio. He was an old vaudeville performer and 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: he had a school for mainly kids and teenage uster singing, dancing. 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: I didn't really care about the dancing, but I had 82 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: to do some and acting, and that's when I started 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: going after it. And then I actually from there got 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: picked to beat in this nightclub review. So when I 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: was fifteen, I was part of this review of the teenagers, 86 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: seven of us singing in the hotels and nightclubs of 87 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: the Catskill Mountains, which was a big resort area upstate 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: New York where they had a lot of entertainment. So 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: that summer I was so that's like my first it was, 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: you know, singing really came before acting. But then I 91 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: switched my focus the next year really laser focused onto acting. 92 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: I really started getting into that and went to a 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: different school for that in New York and then started 94 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: getting I got a manager through that and going out 95 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: on auditions and doing doing a lot of TV commercials 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: and some little theater work, but you know, came real 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: close on a couple of Broadway shows. But then I 98 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: went out to LA This was this summer after my 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: junior year in college. I was twenty now, and so 100 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: I went out there to try to sort of plant 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: the seeds and so that when I graduated yor later, 102 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: i'd have some footing already. So I went out there 103 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: and I was able to get agent, and I went 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: out on auditions during the summer and booked a couple 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: of guest roles on TV shows. So then my agent 106 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: said you know, instead of going back to school, take 107 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: six months off. You got some momentum going, you know. 108 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: So I said, yeah, I think that's a great idea, 109 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: and you have to think more than a second. So 110 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: I didn't go back for my senior year for six months, 111 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: and then went to started going out on auditions, got 112 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: one or two more jobs, and then nothing for like 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: a couple of months, and then I thought I made 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: a mistake. But then my agent said, I'll have an 115 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: audition for you for a pilot for a new series 116 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: takes place in the fifties and called Happy Days. And 117 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: so that's how I went in on the audition. They 118 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: called me back. I did another one. Then I had 119 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: a screen test, and then uh, then I was screen 120 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: testing for the role of Potzi. Uh. But then but 121 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: they came back and they said that, you know, you 122 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: didn't get Pozzi. Anson Williams had and Ron Howard actually 123 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 3: screen tested, even though a year and a half earlier 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: they had done a pilot for the same show with 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: a different name, but it didn't sell. Now it's a 126 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: year and a half later, and and and Greece is 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: a hit on Broadway, and American Graffiti is a hit. 128 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: So they ABC was like, oh, we had a show. 129 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: And they went back to Gary Marshall and said, we 130 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: want to redo the pilot, but you know, you might 131 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: need to recast because they thought Answering and Ron might 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: be too old now because it was like two years later. 133 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: But Gary wanted Ron and Answer, but he had to 134 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: go through screen testing them along side a bunch of 135 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: other hopefuls, myself included. So they called me and said, no, 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: they've got to go with Ron and Anson and yeah, 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: and you know, but they liked your screen test so 138 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: much they want to sort of create a role for 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: you to be on the show. They said, there's a 140 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: small role in the pilot, a guy named Ralph, you know, 141 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: Ralph Mouth. He's he's into cars, He's got a cool car. 142 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: He's a bit of a wiresecracker, that's all I said. 143 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: And and so so I decided. So I decided I 144 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: would do it, and because I was up for another 145 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: role at the same time, and long story, and I 146 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: actually passed on Happy Days on the Friday night. But 147 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: then on Monday I changed my mind because my agent 148 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: played basketball at Gary Marshall's house on Saturday, and Gary 149 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: talked to my agent and sweetened the deal that they 150 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: offered me and and said told my agent they thought 151 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: it had a great chance of getting on the air. 152 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: So then yeah, because because the other one there was 153 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: a dramatic World War two TV movie and I I 154 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: was really more into dramatic, wanting to do drama. Then 155 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: all the parts that I had gotten leading up to 156 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: this one, except for one, they were dramatic roles. So 157 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: that's I was, you know, and I've said to my 158 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: I can do comedy, you know, if it's a if 159 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: the script is good and the writing's good, you know, 160 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: the character. So that's why I passed. But then now 161 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: after hearing what mys has said, so you know, we 162 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: decided burn hand, let's let's take it. And so that's 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: how that's how that came about. 164 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: It's so interesting that you were more drawn to drama. 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: You're so funny in happy days, like you're hysteric. I 166 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: was watching the other day, like a clip on YouTube. 167 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: It was like best Ralph Mouth moments. Really yeah, and 168 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: it's every single time you say I still got it, 169 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: that just I burst out laughing. It's everything is so 170 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: funny that you do on that show. 171 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah, well you know, and 172 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't like that character, but you know, it's to 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: me that was the joy of acting. That's why I 174 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: was saying to you a little earlier that I loved 175 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: playing a wide variety of different kinds of roles, and 176 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: I've been getting to do that. It was tough, you know, 177 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: after Happy Days, because you're so associated with that character 178 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: and that style of comedy. So it was tough. But yeah, 179 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't like that guy, but that, you know, that 180 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: was the joy of acting. And I was, and I 181 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: based him on people I knew, and in even our 182 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: director Jerry Parris reminded me very I said, he's more 183 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: like this character than I am. And I would, you know, 184 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: get ideas from Jerry steel things from him. As a 185 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: matter of fact, that line, I still got it. I borrowed, 186 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: stole it from That was what Jerry used to say 187 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: when he would when he would crack us up, and 188 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: he'd get a good laugh and say, I still got it, 189 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: you know. So one day I decided it wasn't in 190 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: the script, and we were doing a scene in Arnold's 191 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: in front of an audience, and I came was supposed 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: to come in the scene and say something funny and 193 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: the guy's crack up. So before we shot it, I 194 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: went up to Ron Howard because he was the one 195 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: in the doing dialogue right with me in that, and 196 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: I said, I'm not going to tell you what I'm saying, 197 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: but just get ready so that I don't throw you too, 198 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: which I'm going to say something that's not in the script. 199 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: I just decided it was a perfect time to do it, 200 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: and so I did it, and every day all cracked up. 201 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: The audience didn't even know, but they loved it, and 202 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: Jerry Parris was cracking up, and so then you know, 203 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: they loved it so much. Then the writers started putting 204 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: it in, you know, in different situations, and so that's 205 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: how that came about. 206 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm so thank you for telling that story because I'm 207 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: so curious, how like when you have like a catchphrase 208 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: like that, I'm always curious, like is it I don't 209 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: want to say manufactured, but like, did the writers keep 210 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: putting it in? Hearing that you just added it and 211 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: then basically reaction from the audience, I mean, that's so 212 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: beautiful and organic it. 213 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they wrote some of the others, you know, 214 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: like sit on it. I remember the writers came up 215 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: with that, and they were a couple of others. You know, 216 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: Henry Winkler came up with his own because his his 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: gesture and his a you know, that was something that 218 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: came from Henry. But uh, but there were a few 219 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: others that the writers did, but that one, Uh, that 220 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: one I owe to Jerry. But but it was a 221 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: good idea for me to use it that particular time. 222 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, someone else invents the guitar, but it 223 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: takes an artist to play it. 224 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: I think that's that's, you know, good analogy. 225 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: There's a couple Your timing is so I don't want 226 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: to kiss you ask too much, don but your timing 227 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: is so great on that show too. There's a couple 228 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: of times that I was watching in this like clip 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: thing where you don't you say the line and then 230 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: you don't even really wait for the other characters to react, 231 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: so you just launch with I still got it. And 232 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: it's that makes it even funnier. It's just it's so 233 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: it's so great, and I was curious to like, so 234 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: in the first season, you're Ralph is kind of like 235 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: a like a side. 236 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Character you're supporting. 237 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's season two I mean your main cast, 238 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: you're rain core. What was that transition like, going from 239 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: getting bumped up like that? 240 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was great the evolution of that. 241 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: And I often tell people, you know, if they're maybe 242 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: introducing their kids to the show, or they say, oh, 243 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: I love the show, but I haven't seen it in 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: so long, and I know that there's reruns going on. 245 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, you could see it now. So I often 246 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: tell people what you should do is watch it from 247 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: because you could do it now. Watch it from the 248 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: first show and chronologically take it because you'll see a 249 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: real evolution. And you're right at the beginning, you know, 250 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: they told me, you know, I was going to be this, 251 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: you know, it was a small character. But they they say, 252 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: we'll do seven out of thirteen episodes or something like that. 253 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: You know. But then we started, you know, they started 254 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: really liking what Harry too. Henry was just the same 255 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: supporting type of character. But we started doing some things 256 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: that they were really liking, you know, the producers and 257 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: the director and Jerry Parris, who was our director. I 258 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: would come up with things that weren't in the script. 259 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: I'd have ideas because I wanted to make it a 260 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: little bigger, you know. So I'd come up with things 261 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: and he'd really like it, and so we'd do it. 262 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: And we were not in front of an audience those 263 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: first two seasons, so you could do stuff like that. 264 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: It was like shooting a movie, you know. And and 265 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: so they the writers started seeing the producers, so they 266 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: started making it a little bigger, and slowly I wasn't like, 267 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, it was Richie and Possi that were best friends. 268 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: Ralph who's like this guy that you know, they're kind 269 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: of friendly with, but you know, he wasn't core, like 270 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: you said. And then they started getting more friendly with Ralph, 271 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: and he'd started including me in more and more things, 272 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: you know, and it just kind of evolved in that way, 273 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: and like you said, by season two, it was even 274 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: probably towards the middle late part of season one where 275 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: where it was getting pretty good, and then season two 276 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: definitely even more so. And then in the third season 277 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: when we went in front of an audience, it probably 278 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: continued in that in that fashion. 279 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: Now, like if you stop someone on the street and 280 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: ask them about happy days, like they're probably going to 281 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: bring up Fonsie, you know, like that that's like he's 282 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: kind of the de facto mascot of the show. I'd say, 283 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: when when that character and like Henry's like popularity just 284 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: like went into the stratosphere, what was that like for 285 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: the for you and the rest of the cast. 286 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: Was it was there any like weirdness or anything like that? 287 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: Not really, no, I mean luckily, you know, people ask, 288 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: you know, how did you really get along that well? 289 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: And was it you know, because we say we were 290 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: like a family and all that, and then they were 291 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: wondering if how accurate that was, and and it was 292 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: for some it was. Well, you have to give the 293 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: executive producers a lot of credit for the casting of 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: the show, the way they picked their people, because there 295 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: was such a sort of immediate connection that we all 296 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: had and respect for each other and developed a real 297 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: fondness and affection and grew into we were really a 298 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: type family. And then when and we were rooting for 299 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: each other, you know, and then when when Henry really, 300 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: like you said, burst into this stratosphere, it was exciting, 301 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's really exciting to see it. And we 302 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: knew it was good for the show, you know, so 303 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: we never really it wasn't the jealousy and that kind 304 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: of you know, resentment or anything like that. I mean, 305 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: there might have been a couple of moments here and 306 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: there where we would look at something that happened and 307 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: you know, like the network ABC, you know, would be 308 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: fawning over him so much, and you know and kind 309 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: of ignoring us. You know, yeah, you know, the gifts 310 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: like they give gifts at Christmas, and we'd all get 311 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: this sort of normal gift and then Henry got like 312 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: something crazy, you know, So then there was a little 313 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: like wait a minute, you know, we're feeling like what 314 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: are we chopped liver? You know. Yeah, but we didn't 315 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 3: have any uh any hard feelings in any resentment to 316 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: Henry at all, you know, I mean we was excited 317 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: and as Anson would say, why why would have you upset? 318 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: Henry bought me my house, you know, because meaning that 319 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: the show got you know, so popular and number one 320 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: in the country that you know, it kept going and 321 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: made everybody more money and so so I mean he 322 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: was joking, but it was a good joke. But anyway, 323 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: there were no there was none of that weird stuff. 324 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: It was all support and excitement and happiness. 325 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: That's great. 326 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: That makes me happy that that is a hard woman 327 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: to hear, you and Anson became very close on the show, 328 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: and that's something I think. I know, you guys aren't 329 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: your characters. I mean, that's something you've had to deal 330 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 2: with forever. But like I think fans love hearing that 331 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: kind of things, like, oh, they're actually like they're close friends, 332 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: they hang out in real life. How did that friendship develop? 333 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the friendship with all of us, like 334 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: I said, just happened pretty quickly and just kept growing. 335 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: So we were all really great friends. But I'd say 336 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: now like Anson and I like best friends, and we're 337 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: probably even better friends than we were back then. That 338 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: just you know, And there were some years where we 339 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: didn't see each other that much because after I left 340 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 3: the show after the seventh season, because they went for 341 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: four more years after I left, so I didn't see 342 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Answer as much. And then we'd see each other here 343 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: and there, and he was very busy directing a lot, 344 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: and so it wasn't until we, I don't know, we 345 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: got together for some baseball game that we were playing 346 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: together and we just kind of said, hey, we got 347 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: to get together more. And then we started to and 348 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: we lived pretty close at this point. Twenty minutes away, 349 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: So we just started doing more and more things together. 350 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: Ron was now living on the on the East Coast, 351 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: and Henry was still out in California, but he was 352 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: busy and so I didn't see him as much. But Answer, 353 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: I just became tighter and tighter, you know. So like 354 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: now it's great and we're still all four, you know, 355 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: still friends. We have like a group text so that 356 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: the four of us, so that somebody texts, you know, 357 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: and we all get it and we chime in, and 358 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: so it's nice. It's a great way to keep it up, 359 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: you know. 360 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: Oh that's all that makes me so happy that rules. 361 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: Is it true that you and Answer we're going to 362 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: have a spin off together? 363 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I heard that. 364 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a whole thing. What happened was 365 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: they I guess they had the idea because they wrote 366 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: an episode where the two of us decided to share 367 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: an apartment together, and and you know, it became like 368 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: an odd couple kind of thing. It was a funny episode. 369 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: And then they then they showed it, you know, the network, 370 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: and they go, yeah, yeah, this could be a show. 371 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: And then they started talking more about it and they 372 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: wanted to cast a girlfriend for me, and we had 373 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: to bring in. We were reading with different girls, and 374 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: I initially, when the executive producers talked to me about it, 375 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure I wanted to do that, because you know, 376 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: i'd been playing this role for five six years at 377 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: that point, I guess, and I knew what I was 378 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 3: going to be facing when it was over, trying to 379 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: get away from that so that I could play different 380 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: kinds of roles and not just that. So I wasn't sure. 381 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: And you know, we were doing great as a show. 382 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure about it, but they they kept talking 383 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: to me and talked to me okay, made me think, okay, 384 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: let's do it. And then it looked like it was 385 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they were already recording the title song, you know, 386 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: for it, and then all of a sudden we hear 387 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: ABC decided they're not going to do it. And I'm 388 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: not sure what what happened, but I wasn't too upset, 389 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: you know, I was kind of like, Okay, you know, 390 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: it's not going you know where. Maybe in a different situation, 391 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 3: I would have been pretty disappointed, but so I think 392 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: it's it's probably better that we didn't even go there, 393 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: because you know, spin offs are tough some of them. 394 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean Happy Days had so many Yeah, and la Verne, 395 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: Shirley and Mork and Mindy didn't do too bad. But 396 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: there were a few others that I don't think you know, 397 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: that didn't make it. And it's it's always a little tricky. 398 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: So anyway, that's the story there, And like I said, 399 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: I was fine when when it didn't go. 400 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: Everything happens for a reason. Don Most is with us 401 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: from Happy Days. We have so much more to get into. 402 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: It's the ICE Smell Pop Culture Podcast. Stick around, everybody, 403 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. It's the I Smell pop Culture Podcast. 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: We're here at Don Most, the legendary Don Most. Something 405 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: I really want to ask you about. I'm so curious. 406 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: I Ron Howard said that you were the one who 407 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: actually coined the phrase jumping the shark. Like that was 408 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: the story I heard on behalf of Ron Howard. Is 409 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: that you look down the script and you're like, we're 410 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: jumping sharks. 411 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: Now, that is that right? 412 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, yes, yeah, I mean he's right, And I 413 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: heard some people I think sent me a link to 414 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: the interview where he gave where he said that, and 415 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: he's right, But I don't know that the way it 416 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: caught on in our vernacular, if you will, in the culture. 417 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how that whether the thread was from 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: me or not, because what happened was, like Ron said, uh, 419 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: this was about the fifth season, I think, and and 420 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: and I was starting. Ron and I talked a bunch 421 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: about this during that year because we felt that the 422 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: scripts just weren't great that year, you know, like it 423 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: was starting to get a little far fetched, or you know, 424 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: because Phonsie was character was so popular that I think 425 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: ABC started like pushing, you know, the right pushing the 426 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 3: executives of our show and producers you got to do 427 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: keep doing more with you know, with Phonsie. We loved 428 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: when he snapped his fingers and he made all the 429 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: animals stop making noise or whatever, you know, and that 430 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: was a funny bit. But then they just kept wanting 431 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: to do more and more of that, and it started 432 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: getting a little ridiculous, you know, and we were feeling 433 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: the scripts are just going in a insurrection, and so 434 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: then there was a reading Mondays. We would all sit 435 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: around the table, those cast, the writer's producers and read 436 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: through the script that was going to be done for 437 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: this you know, that week and to shoot that Friday. 438 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: So we're reading the script and you know, and then 439 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: after it's over, you know, Ron and I kind of 440 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: walked over to the side or something, and and Ron's 441 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, what do you think. I 442 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: don't know, what do you think about this script? And 443 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: I looked at it. It was right. I remember it. 444 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: I said, now they got him jumping a shark, and 445 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: and Roan remembered I'd forgotten that I had said those 446 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: exact words, but I think I did. I probably did. 447 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: I remember saying to him, now they got Phonsie doing 448 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, viz and and so I I don't know 449 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: how that would have gotten beyond me and Ron so 450 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: that it got out there. But somehow, you know, I 451 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: guess these these guys that had some kind of I 452 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 3: don't know, I heard these guys had started started it 453 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: by saying this is you know, when a show they 454 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: coined the phrase jumping the shark, and that's when a 455 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: show starts to you know, it's hit its peak and 456 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: now it's starting to lose lose its lose ground. So 457 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: I don't he wasn't in the room and I said that. 458 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know how it You know, so I 459 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: can't take credit, but I probably did say it first. 460 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm attributing it to you Don Moss here that you 461 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: came up with that phrase. Uh so moving on from 462 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: happy is a little bit that You've had so many 463 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: incredible roles. I want to ask you. There's one that 464 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: caught my eye that I want to ask you about. 465 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: You were on an episode of Chips Yes Rock Devil 466 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: Rock and anyone listening if you have, if you have 467 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: not done a Chip's Deep Dive, you should and you 468 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: should watch this episode. I think it's season six. But 469 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: you're you're the singer in a like a kiss style 470 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: rock band. Yeah, yeah, heavy metal. It's like, you know, 471 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: it's kind of implied that it's satanic maybe a little bit. Yeah, 472 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: people are protesting the concert. 473 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, were singing Devil Take Me, you know, I mean 474 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: it was like Satan worship, you know. 475 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's actually you singing the song. 476 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: Right, Actually not. No. What happened was I was supposed 477 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: to because they knew that I sang yeah, and I 478 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: was going to do it. And then the a day 479 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: or two before I was supposed to go and to 480 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: record it, I came down with this really kind of 481 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, chess cold or whatever. And no, I was 482 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: like going, I don't know how I'm going to sing. 483 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: And so they they told my agent told them and 484 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: and they said, no, problemly, you know, we have somebody, 485 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: you know, studio singer that can do it. So I 486 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: was supposed to but I wound up not, which is 487 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: too bad. It would have been nice to do it. 488 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: But the guy, the guy saying, it's great voice. And 489 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: it was fun lip syncing and performing to it. You know, 490 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun. 491 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: There's a part in the performance where the character breathes 492 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: fire like it takes a swig of like was that you. 493 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: No, No, that wasn't me. They had somebody a double, 494 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: you know, so I had a face paint and all 495 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: that in the hair, so you couldn't you couldn't really tell. 496 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't do that. 497 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: Was that fun making that episode and like playing that 498 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: kind of character? 499 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun, you know, 500 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: because it was so different, you know, and I was 501 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: able to to bring out a whole different kind of 502 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: side and and what was interesting about it. Then they 503 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: showed in the episode, you know, at one point they 504 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: showed I'm taking my all that makeup off and you 505 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: see and then I'm like this regular normal kid. I'm 506 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: not that way. That was just an act, you know, 507 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: of this character. So that was kind of cool because 508 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 3: although maybe it would have been even more fun if 509 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: I continue, if that character came through even off stage, 510 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: but that's a whole different a different way. But but 511 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 3: it was kind of neat that you saw that I 512 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: was just this normal kid and then this was my act. 513 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I love it, And you're on a 514 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: couple episodes of Glee. Yeah, and it's so cool. And 515 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: you know now that I know you have this you 516 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: said have an incredible voice. We'll talk about your singing 517 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: in a bit, but you have this passion for music 518 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: and Glee is I mean, of course a musically centered show. 519 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Was that was that? Like? 520 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Is that what drew you to that show? Like what 521 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: brought you into the Glee universe? 522 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't really that. I mean, yeah, the truth of 523 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: the matter was that that for that one, they I 524 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: went into audition like a bunch of other people. I 525 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: just went in and auditioned for it because they wanted, 526 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, another ginger, a redhead, uh to be the 527 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: father to Emma and and that the woman to play 528 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: my wife would be a redhead that we were both gingers, 529 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, And so I auditioned for it, and you know, 530 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: when I got the part, they music didn't enter into 531 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: it at all. It wasn't like, oh, then we're gonna 532 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: maybe have you you know, joined the cat in a 533 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: song or something like that. That never came up. So 534 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: it was just, yeah, it was just a regular, regular 535 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: casting thing where I went in and read for it. 536 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: But it was really fun because it was a great 537 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: It felt almost reminded me in some way of happy 538 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: days of how how well the cast worked together and 539 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: how well the crew work. You know. It was really 540 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: tight and well run and the people were great. So 541 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: it was a really good experience. But but then I, 542 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: you know, and then I played some other roles on 543 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: TV TV scrolls that were different. I did a two 544 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: part star Trek Voyager, where I played this sort of 545 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: you know, a doctor that had a lot of evil, 546 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: very you know what, not so well intentioned plans for 547 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, he was like the villain. He was like 548 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: the villain of the piece. And so that was a 549 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: completely different role. So that's what helped I kept you know, 550 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: I kept chipping away and getting something a little bit different, 551 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: then something even more different, and then people were like 552 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 3: a little more open to trying me in different things. 553 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: But for a while I still had to audition for 554 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: you know, Chip Side. They just offered that to me, 555 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: and luckily I had to. And but I auditioned for 556 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: the Star Trek Voyager. It was tough because people are going, 557 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: wait this guy for that part, you know, and a 558 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: lot of times they wouldn't even let me read. But 559 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: then but then I'd come in and get some of 560 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, get to read and get something. And then 561 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: it started opening up. And then I started getting some 562 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: independent films and a couple of studio films, small roles, 563 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 3: but it's just started, you know, cracking that that, you know, 564 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: the little opening in the wall start getting bigger and bigger. 565 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: And then as I got older, I think it got 566 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: a little easier because in the because I was more 567 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: distanced from that character in terms of age and time. 568 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: So although it's still on all the time, but obviously 569 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm in a different age bracket. So in the last 570 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: five six years, as I think I mentioned, I've gotten 571 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: to do more more films and a wide variety of 572 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: different kinds of characters in the last four or five 573 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: years than I had in the ten years before that 574 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: or twenty years. So it's really been nice. And I 575 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: mentioned you have a film coming out yes March that's 576 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: very different, true story based on a book of the 577 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: same name called Harson's Island Revenge and during Prohibition, and 578 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: I play it's a very different role. I play the 579 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: head of this gang. It was a real gang called 580 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: the Purple Gang. You know, they were like a mob 581 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: and they were vicious and this intense role. So I'm 582 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: looking forward to I haven't seen it right, I'm looking 583 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: forward to that and having it come out. I can't wait. 584 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harson's Island Revenge, it's coming soon. Be on the 585 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: lookout for that in theaters. And yeah, it's so cool. 586 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know whether it's Netflix or Amazon. 587 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: We'll see. 588 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: You were no slouched on most This man is working. 589 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: You have albums out too. I mean you can go 590 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: on Spotify or your streaming service and listen to your 591 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: latest is called New York High and what a voice, man, 592 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: I was listening to it this morning. 593 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Incredible. 594 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, Well, as I mentioned, 595 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, singing was my first first love, so to speak. 596 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: And so it wasn't like, you know, all I decided, 597 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, at the age of you know, fifty five 598 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: or whatever it was, that now, you know, I'll try 599 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: to do this. I mean, that's when I was in 600 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: my blood from the time I was nine years old 601 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: wanting to do that, and I did do it when 602 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: I was fifteen in those nightclubs, you know. So gutting 603 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: back to it was and I'd done some singing in between, 604 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: I did some musical theater, and every once in a 605 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: while they'd be some you know, something on television where 606 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: a variety show or telethon or where I'd get on 607 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: and I and i'd bring it out do some of 608 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: my some of that kind of music that I loved, 609 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: which were the you know, the Great American Songbook but 610 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: with the jazz field, jazz standards and swaying big band. 611 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: And although this latest one isn't so much big band, 612 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: it's a little more, but it's still the jazz standards, 613 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 3: but it has a more contemporary kind of feel. So 614 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: going back to it was, you know, it was like 615 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 3: you know, riding a bike. It's just it was always 616 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 3: always been there. So I decided. It was like about 617 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: ten years ago. I said, well, if I'm ever going 618 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: to do what I wanted to do with music, which 619 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: was to do my own show and in the style 620 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: or in the format of some of the greats that 621 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: I loved growing up, you know, whether it be Sinatra 622 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: or Nat King Cole, you know, Dino, Tony Bennett, all 623 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: the great singers, and especially Bobby Darren, who I saw 624 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: at the Copacabano when I was eighteen, and I was like, 625 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: oh my god. So I wanted to do a show 626 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: like that. And so I put it together, met a 627 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: musical director, and we got some great musicians, and we 628 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: tried it out at a jazz club in La It 629 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: was called It's Vitello, and and you know, I said, 630 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 3: let's I got to do it and see what happens. 631 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: And the show when people were like, well, wow, we 632 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: didn't know you could sing like that, and how come 633 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: you didn't sing more on happy days? Why did Patzi 634 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: get to do all the things? You know? I got 635 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: all that, And so it was a great response. And 636 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: then I did another club, and then I did some 637 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 3: in New York, you know, a couple of jazz clubs, 638 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: and and just and more and more in La and 639 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 3: then it led to me meeting a producer, a musician, 640 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: record producer, ranger named Willie Mario, and he he talked 641 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 3: to me about doing an album together, and we did 642 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: and that one's called The Most mostly swinging and with 643 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: a great big band of top La jazz guys, and 644 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: I was a blast. I loved it. And then another 645 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: album that like you just alluded to, a New York High, 646 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: which I did in Nashville with different musicians, different producer 647 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: because has a different vibe, different style. But it came 648 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: out really great too. So I'm real excited about that. 649 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: And I'm going to be doing a show here because 650 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: I'm living, like I said, live near Boulder, and I 651 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: did a show at a jazz club out here called 652 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: Dazzle in Denver, and they asked me to come back 653 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: really quick because you know, it went so well. So 654 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm going back there and this Sunday I'm going to 655 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 3: be doing shit awesome. 656 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you're in the Boulder area and you 657 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: want to see hang around your local jazz club, you 658 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: never know who might pop up. 659 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: Don most might how long stage and sing some songs. 660 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 661 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: In Denver Dazzle called Dazzle. 662 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, John Most, you're just the absolute best. 663 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: I have a couple more questions for you, if if 664 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: we can stick around just a few more moments here 665 00:36:50,840 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: on I Smell pop Culture. It's the icemo pop Culture 666 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 2: podcast on I Am all In. My name is Easton Allen, 667 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting here with Don Most. We know him 668 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: as Ralph Mauth from Happy Days, but he's so much 669 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: more than that. So this is a Gilmore Girls podcast. 670 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 2: And I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you about 671 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: working with Mary and Ross. She was Mary in Cunningham 672 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: on Happy Days. She had she was in Gilmore Girls. 673 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: She had two roles in Gilmore Girls. Yeah, she played 674 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: She played Laura Lei's grandmother, the main the mom, the 675 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 2: main mom. Yeah, her her father's mother. It was Laurlai 676 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: Trixie Gilmore. But you got to work with her too 677 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: on Happy Days. 678 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: What was that like? 679 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 3: Oh, Maryon is the greatest. She's just it's so incredible. 680 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 3: I mean as a as a as a person, as 681 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: a just as a wonderful person and an actress. I 682 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: mean she was one of the best. What you see, 683 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: that's the way she is in a lot of what 684 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: you see. I mean, she's she also has range as 685 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: an actress and can play different characters. But but she's 686 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 3: got such a great heart, and she's just so vibrant 687 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: and and loving and funny and just unbelievable to work with. 688 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: And it reminds me I need to give her a call. 689 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to her in a while. And because 690 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: when I lived back in you know, the LA area, 691 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: I could pay her visits a little harder now, but 692 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I want to give her a call. I'm 693 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: glad you brought her up. What was the other role 694 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: that she played on Gilmore Growth? 695 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: Marion also played Marilyn Gilmore, who is TRIX's niece, So 696 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: the grandmother's niece, Marilyn Richard who is louralized dad. It's 697 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: her cousin, and she's in a couple episodes. But that's 698 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: the other She's in two episodes. That's the other character 699 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: that Marion Ross plays. 700 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: I'll have to try to kick those episodes. 701 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll send them over and then you can 702 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: you can tell her you like, hey, Mary, and I'm 703 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: just saw you Gilmore Girls. 704 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: What was that like? 705 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good so you told me before we 706 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: started that you and your wife watched a big Gilmore 707 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: Girls when it was on. 708 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: Do you remember what was there something that stood out 709 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: to you about that show? 710 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you're such a your sitcom like legend, so 711 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 2: I'm always interested when when guys that have your resume 712 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: and your experience, when you'll watch another show like this, 713 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: like kind of is there something stood out to you 714 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: about The Gilmore Girls. 715 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 3: Well, I thought the writing was it was really really 716 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 3: good writing. I like the tone, the sensibility of it. 717 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: I really liked the actors. You know. I thought Lauren 718 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 3: Braham I'd never seen her before, and I thought she 719 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: was great. I loved her in that role and the 720 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 3: relationship that she had with her daughter. I'm sorry, I forget. 721 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: Her her name, Alexis Plodell was the daughter. 722 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was and she was really so refreshing 723 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: and genuine and and so that relationship between them I 724 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: just loved. I remember, and then and some of the 725 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 3: other characters. I didn't watch it, you know, for what 726 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 3: it was kind of regularly for a while, but then 727 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: you know, I lost touch with it for a while 728 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: and get back to it, so I don't and it 729 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: was a while ago because it was when it was 730 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: originally broadcast, so it was a while ago, but I 731 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: just remembered and the warmth it had and the humor. 732 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: I thought, all the combinations worked really well and the 733 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 3: cast awesome. 734 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we love about it too, and 735 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: I love that that that's what stood out to you. 736 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: Don Moss. You've just been so generous with your time. 737 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hanging out with us and 738 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: everybody listening. You should go check out Harson's Island Revenge 739 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: when it comes out in March, and uh yeah, and 740 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: also put on an episode Happy Days when you're sitting 741 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: at home, just put on and check out Ralph and 742 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 2: watch some great Ralph moments. 743 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: He's so much fun. 744 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for I have to look on YouTube 745 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: for those great Ralph moments. 746 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: Don There are multiple, there's like if you look up 747 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: best Ralph moments, there's like ten that coming. Like people 748 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: can't pick their favorite. There's so many. 749 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you brought that up. Thank you. 750 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Thank you so much, and I hope you 751 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: have a great rest of your day. 752 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate it's a pleasure chatting with you. Really enjoyed it. 753 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: Everybody I guess. 754 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In Podcast, 755 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com