Speaker 1: Man, Man, grab the ball, man, cause today Man, we
Speaker 1: having a great, great conversation with one of my favorite
Speaker 1: favorite people in the world, Man, Zach Randolph. Man, one
Speaker 1: of the more tougher guards that I had to guard. Man,
Speaker 1: he's gonna slide through. We're gonna catch up with him
Speaker 1: and then chop it up. Man. Check this out. What
Speaker 1: a boy that's up here.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm like, we know he had to do it. Joy,
Speaker 2: how you doing man, Bro, it's chilling lock Man, Man, kids,
Speaker 2: keep me busy. Darkshit freshman in Louisville.
Speaker 1: That's this year now, that's who already went down there.
Speaker 2: So she got her now, Man, it's it's nice.
Speaker 1: Man, show you what's ow So what you just saw
Speaker 1: kitchen just where we shoot at in here, and then
Speaker 1: this right here is a whole bathrooms, theater right here,
Speaker 1: it's office right here. And then when we do traditional
Speaker 1: podcast we can do them in here. It's a green room.
Speaker 1: And then this is for half styles to get here
Speaker 1: and stuff in here. But check this outro. Just won't
Speaker 1: we be at bro just you know, staying out of
Speaker 1: the way, you know what I'm saying, man, grinding, staying
Speaker 1: in it, just you know, making ship for doucing Ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's one you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, just being out for one.
Speaker 2: We got going yeah yeah yeah. Actually, you know I
Speaker 2: want to pick your brand, telling Mike to.
Speaker 1: So Ship, let's chop man. I thank you for coming
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 2: And you're in music too, yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Know, we don't want to be having problems with probably
Speaker 1: be having problems with having getting music that's in projects.
Speaker 1: It's very hard, you know what I'm saying, Like trying
Speaker 1: to you know, the licensed.
Speaker 2: Music and get in in TVs and movies.
Speaker 1: That's super hard. So guys, yeah, y'all good man, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming through. Bro, real if you want to keep
Speaker 1: you guys talking about this, ain't no rules in here
Speaker 1: with you feel what I'm saying. I'm glad you came
Speaker 1: through straight up. Man, come on, you want to come through?
Speaker 1: I said, hell yeah, man. How retirement being for you?
Speaker 2: Man? Man? It been good, bro, been real good. My
Speaker 2: kids keeping me busy man, and you know with that
Speaker 2: just business and everything. But my daughter's freshman Louisville playing ball.
Speaker 1: Congratulations.
Speaker 2: My son he played baseball in Baltimore, So that guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: my daughter she a freshman son. He ten. So man
Speaker 2: the kids.
Speaker 1: Man, what's up? Man? Man, honey, I'm doing a recruiting
Speaker 1: ship too. Now, I got a sixty year old volleyball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: six ' four jump out the gym. Yeah. Different.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like like Jo daughter, she
Speaker 2: she a beast.
Speaker 1: Man Asian, Yeah yeah, be Yeah. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even now that we all are, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of seeing everybody kids or like young adults now
Speaker 1: and stuff. Did you play any other sports in high
Speaker 1: school or any other half any love like you had
Speaker 1: that for basketball?
Speaker 2: Man, I had, you know, I tried to like football,
Speaker 2: probably like my sophomore year. Man, so long, Bro, that
Speaker 2: ship was not for me at all. Man. I got
Speaker 2: out there, I got smacked. Man football over Yeah, Man,
Speaker 2: I got here so hard, but I'm ready to get down.
Speaker 2: I ain't come back the next day. Man, surd a
Speaker 2: so bad ticket, I said, man'mna stick with that ball
Speaker 2: straight up.
Speaker 1: Hold on you ship. I'm a sophomore in high school, okay,
Speaker 1: fifteen long, lanky, skinny though, And that was it one time.
Speaker 1: You know what I tell everybody, Bro, you fooled everybody
Speaker 1: because you was a lot more athletic than you put
Speaker 1: on it people. I was say, z bo can't jump
Speaker 1: up a pizza. I'm like, shit, is z boy two
Speaker 1: here in your mother for me? Like this sh smoothie
Speaker 1: dog first.
Speaker 2: Off, as the motherfucker too head butten.
Speaker 1: Listen, a lot of people don't know this, bro, So
Speaker 1: first off, I wanted to give you flowers. Bro, you
Speaker 1: was one of the very few people that I got
Speaker 1: on this list of five to maybe four guys that
Speaker 1: the interaction was a chess match. I knew exactly what
Speaker 1: I was getting when I played against you. We always
Speaker 1: had a bunch of respect for each other. But I
Speaker 1: also knew in between those lines what it was. Man.
Speaker 1: I was telling all the guys that when we found
Speaker 1: out we was gonna do the interview, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is probably one of the hardest guards in league history.
Speaker 1: I came in with, you know, as being young playing
Speaker 1: against an older Charles Barkley, a older Carl Malone and
Speaker 1: that league. You know what I'm saying, Larry Johnson, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying when means to put you in
Speaker 1: the basket in a world where we are finess. So
Speaker 1: when you know I ended up having to end up
Speaker 1: having a finesse in my game and not just so
Speaker 1: much back down. You kept it though. One of my
Speaker 1: questions to you, Bro, is why you didn't switch up
Speaker 1: to finesse when everybody's finessing. You just kept you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And just I knew getting my bread and butter at tea,
Speaker 2: so I knew a lot of guys, like you said,
Speaker 2: they they really want to the game was changing, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you said, shit, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw that motherfuck down there. I'm gonna get it easy too,
Speaker 2: you know, hook shot or a face up. But like
Speaker 2: during her my later years, I feel like I started
Speaker 2: changing a little bit, popping more, facing up more, and
Speaker 2: you know, doing things like that. But like you said, man,
Speaker 2: just sticking to my bread and butter, bro because it
Speaker 2: couldn't stop it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, shit, why no doubt it was And
Speaker 1: you know what, it was effective and you were effective.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you what was some of your
Speaker 1: early influences, Like who influenced I never never heard of
Speaker 1: people who influenced you to play ball. Who was your
Speaker 1: early influences when you hoo man, just man, the guys
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood at the Park. You know from Indiana,
Speaker 1: so you know, walking watching Rick Smith, you know, even
Speaker 1: watching you coming up.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. He was one of them guys,
Speaker 2: you know, motivating me to keep playing. Rashid Wilesce, guys
Speaker 2: like that, and you know, just been from Indiana. Man,
Speaker 2: hot being of basketball. You know, everybody got a goal
Speaker 2: in Indiana. You could, I'm talking about it in the country.
Speaker 2: It's a goal on you know, on the barn. So
Speaker 2: you know it just hoop, just bread and us and uh,
Speaker 2: I just love playing man.
Speaker 1: All the guys that I came out of Indiana, Jeff
Speaker 1: t Jeff Tige, the Tige brothers. Uh, what's what's my dog?
Speaker 2: I said?
Speaker 1: Uh, trash dog, trashar oh, Eric Gordon, Yeah, Gordon Man,
Speaker 1: Gordon Man, I Man, I gotta I gotta get some
Speaker 1: big respects to Gordon Man. Just that move was trash.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Not you, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a lot of basketball players come out
Speaker 1: of Indiana. Tell us about the players coming out of
Speaker 1: Indiana then being right next door to Illinois and Ohio.
Speaker 1: What was that like?
Speaker 2: Come man, we was man going at it, Like you said,
Speaker 2: coming up, early with the ill Illinois Warriors balling against
Speaker 2: Dee Miles. But uh nah, I mean Indiana. We got hoopers, man,
Speaker 2: we got a lot of hoopers, and Indiana got a
Speaker 2: lot of history, been having a lot of history. We
Speaker 2: didn't had Oscar Robertson from you know, uh, all the
Speaker 2: guys like this, so man, they just paving the way.
Speaker 2: And man, you got Gordon Haywood, got a lot of guys. Man,
Speaker 2: the plumb the Plumbly Brothers, Plumble's. I think they're from Indiana. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Desmond shout of my boys. Man.
Speaker 1: I saw the list and I was like, dangn it's
Speaker 1: like that Seattle list. Like you don't know how many
Speaker 1: guys came out of Seattle.
Speaker 2: Sattle got hoopers, telling that all the time. Seattle got
Speaker 2: plenty hoopers right up like Indiana, I mean Sean Kemp
Speaker 2: and listen, Larry bird Man, we keep going, Man, I
Speaker 2: tell the guys. You know, I used to battle with
Speaker 2: all of my teammates about the hot bed. Hey man, Indiana, Man,
Speaker 2: we're right there here. California, y'all got a lot of hoopers,
Speaker 2: but y'all twice the biggest of the state facts. So
Speaker 2: we were talking about the people like.
Speaker 1: Man, yeah you're talking about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, put some money on Indiana. Man, y'all get
Speaker 2: y'all Indiana, We get the Indiana team, get a California team,
Speaker 2: you get Illinois, South Carolina. However, y'all want to do it, Man,
Speaker 2: we can do it. No, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: That's all right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh so so man, listen, Man, I watched the doc. Man,
Speaker 1: I love your doc. The doc showed so much growth
Speaker 1: and development with you, Bro showed so much different like
Speaker 1: obviously the Portland you and then you get to go
Speaker 1: through this journey and did you get to Memphis. One
Speaker 1: of the things I loved about you going to Michigan
Speaker 1: State was I felt like that fit. When I see
Speaker 1: when you got introduced to the world, we got to
Speaker 1: see how you played. I felt like Michigan State and
Speaker 1: you fit. Now. I think a double a that fit.
Speaker 1: I think it just programs fit a certain to feel
Speaker 1: me And I really believe that tell us about some
Speaker 1: of the before we talk about the Memphis States, talk
Speaker 1: about some of the that fit with Michigan State, and
Speaker 1: did you see it the same way?
Speaker 2: Man? I did, Like you said, just to fit, like
Speaker 2: some players fit with different schools better than others. That's
Speaker 2: why you have some players to transfer, some players to stay.
Speaker 2: And Mischigan State was that for me, just coming how
Speaker 2: it was coach Coach Izzo. He was hard on you.
Speaker 2: I got the young Coach Izzo where he grabbed, grabbing
Speaker 2: your jersey, speaking in your face like like you can't
Speaker 2: the type of shit he did then, you can't do
Speaker 2: it now. So it's different. But like that hard culture
Speaker 2: where we had war drills where we had to work pads,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you know that back
Speaker 2: in the day. Ship So just I'm glad I went
Speaker 2: there because he taught me a lot of discipline. He
Speaker 2: taught me. Even though I was there for a short
Speaker 2: period of time, I still learned so much from him
Speaker 2: and we're still we're still close to this day.
Speaker 1: What's up man? You know a lot of those kids
Speaker 1: needed that though, from being honest. Some of that is
Speaker 1: where we came from to and being not just raised hard,
Speaker 1: but coached hard, taking direction uncles. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No Grandma's you know, we from that old country from
Speaker 1: me so so I know a lot of respect that
Speaker 1: come through Indiana too, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I say that to say because the Michigan state to me,
Speaker 1: mirrored with Memphis actually presented. Uh it seemed like you
Speaker 1: was when I when I played you in New York
Speaker 1: and I played you with the Clippers, I played you
Speaker 1: in Portland, I felt like I was playing a different
Speaker 1: Zach Froone. When I played you in in in Memphis,
Speaker 1: he was facing up man, your seals was crazy? You
Speaker 1: in Mark's fucking Morton Street was I was so fucking
Speaker 1: jealous of that. Like, man, this guy I came here,
Speaker 1: walked up with the white boy. You know, you just
Speaker 1: sit fat assou shit front row. You know Mark used
Speaker 1: to be a little fat kid. You just shut your
Speaker 1: fat at shoot off. But I thought they were Spaniards.
Speaker 1: They couldn't understand English. Nigga understood everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and he talking ship talking right right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I say that to say that it
Speaker 1: was just perfect. I ain't you know, I ain't hating
Speaker 1: on nor none of that, but to be in the
Speaker 1: Jersey washing, I was like, man, I was happy for you, bro.
Speaker 1: Talk about how you thought Memphis and well we'll just
Speaker 1: talk about Memphis.
Speaker 2: And that and how that you know on so crazy ticket,
Speaker 2: the ships so crazy because you know, I had just
Speaker 2: got traded to the Clippers.
Speaker 1: I know I saw you in uh u c l A.
Speaker 1: But I love that moment. Bro shot sat right there
Speaker 1: for a little bit. But I was like, damn, boy,
Speaker 1: you in that la now you and you was in Memphis. Bro,
Speaker 1: you didn't even get a chance to get out here good.
Speaker 2: And that was so crazy because at the time, I'm
Speaker 2: getting it to the Clippers. So I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: get it a guy here. Half season, you know we
Speaker 2: ain't win me bd, Jason Marcus. We played good, we
Speaker 2: had a good squad, we built deandres he young. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool. So we get the draft. They
Speaker 2: get the number one pick. I'm like, damn, Blake Griffin.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm gone, you knew it. I knew
Speaker 2: it because even though he the best player in college basketball,
Speaker 2: you got a kid just coming out of dumbinate, jumping
Speaker 2: over cars, just you know, a baby shock. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, they got the number one pick. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: they probably they're gonna they're gonna end up drafting Blake
Speaker 2: at the pick.
Speaker 1: And then half then they said to you did they
Speaker 1: did they let me. So, you know, so it left
Speaker 1: something right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. So it's like okay, damn. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: so I go to Memphis.
Speaker 1: What year is that? That's sixteen? What's that to me?
Speaker 1: To me, is that is that the San Antonio year?
Speaker 2: No, that's no, that's the year because I went to
Speaker 2: Memphis day. Bro, you was m VP to me.
Speaker 1: Your room was like everybody not had their room, you
Speaker 1: know how everybody's Dirk All not had the room when
Speaker 1: you go through. But you had a fucking room, bro, for.
Speaker 2: Your They're getting traded that motherfucker. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: really was frustrated. I'm like, damn, I just got to
Speaker 2: l A was in New York for a season. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: what the hell going on? So I'm like, you know what, man,
Speaker 2: this I took it and I approached it right man.
Speaker 2: And it was guy's playing how I fitted Bruh. It's
Speaker 2: like a like a puzzle, like a nigga just boom
Speaker 2: from the people in the city, from the organization showing
Speaker 2: me love can relate to me. I come in with
Speaker 2: Mark Mike Conley. These guys are coming.
Speaker 1: Into their own small town small people are really really
Speaker 1: like Southern Hospital Band.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, perfect man. Blue collar folks. Man, they
Speaker 2: blue collar. These folks is blue collar and I'm a
Speaker 2: blue collar player. So, Bro, that shit was God. So
Speaker 2: I was thankful just coming in to love I got then,
Speaker 2: not only that we win it going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: First year I got there, we proved ten to fifteen games.
Speaker 2: So you know, I said, Man, it was god. It
Speaker 2: all worked out. So that was my best moment of
Speaker 2: my career during that time in Memphis. In Memphis and
Speaker 2: it's still mifish.
Speaker 1: One of the questions everybody always asks me, Bro, do
Speaker 1: I go back to Many? Do I go back to
Speaker 1: Boston When you got a life and you got kids.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to get back and actually be
Speaker 1: that influence. You won't, but Bro, you t A and
Speaker 1: Big Mark actually built the grind factor. Bro, y'all that
Speaker 1: is y'alls for y'alls to go on the tombstone and
Speaker 1: for y'alls to go to the grave with talk about
Speaker 1: the responsibility. When you go back and you speak to Junior,
Speaker 1: you speak to who's also from Michigan State. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you talk to the bigs, I know,
Speaker 1: Big eating this guy there, the rookies and stuff. How
Speaker 1: important is is spreading that h that message and just
Speaker 1: you know what it means to be part of that
Speaker 1: whole thing now.
Speaker 2: Man, them guys like you said, them guys Jared and
Speaker 2: Big Edie John, them guys just taking on their grit
Speaker 2: and grind and only that they accept it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. You know they're like, oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: we grinders too. Like they ain't on no soft ship.
Speaker 2: They like they want it. And that's what I like
Speaker 2: about the young fellas. Their their talent level is it's
Speaker 2: right there. They they're superstars in the league, Jaron, Joe bang,
Speaker 2: and they're building a great winning team and this year
Speaker 2: with job back, hey man, yeah, take your glasses all man,
Speaker 2: you see the thing coming, you know is so like,
Speaker 2: uh we gonna see but man, yeah, that Memphis was
Speaker 2: It was the best ever for me.
Speaker 1: Bro I really what was it like to get your jersey?
Speaker 2: Man? What it was like to give my jersey? Retired
Speaker 2: man coming from a small city Indiana, man, country boy, man,
Speaker 2: mother on welfare. Man wasn't expected to lead the hood,
Speaker 2: been expected to make it out. Man, It's a blessing
Speaker 2: man to come in there and see my name in
Speaker 2: the NBA jersey. Bro every time I go into Phoenix form,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonnaly lie Bro. I damned the shed a tear.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Cause come on, man, you
Speaker 2: thinking man, won't nobody everything. There'll be a ze Bo
Speaker 2: jersey hanging up in the NBA arenal shit. But I
Speaker 2: did cause when I was in the hood, I was
Speaker 2: telling the older homes I was I'm going to the league.
Speaker 2: I already knew what I was doing. My sophomore year, bruh,
Speaker 2: I was telling people that the neighborhood, all the old
Speaker 2: homes at the park, I'm going to league.
Speaker 1: You already knew it.
Speaker 2: I already knew it. We're going to lead. And they
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, we feel you like they ain't knocking.
Speaker 2: They like it's niggas young and confident. But you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, That's why I teach my kids. You
Speaker 2: gotta have that confident, especially when you're on that floor.
Speaker 2: Y'all had it comfort and you ain't they you do
Speaker 2: it life fact.
Speaker 1: You gotta see it before anybody else can see it.
Speaker 2: It's real.
Speaker 1: Imagine coming in here telling your high school coach, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we ain't going to college. We're going to high school.
Speaker 1: We're gonna straight to the lead. And what flicked at me?
Speaker 1: Like what, let me get your ass out of here. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: write this down. I said it the second time and
Speaker 1: it was in my face. He knew it was real.
Speaker 1: So I totally understand you. When you you gotta believe first,
Speaker 1: or ain't nobody gonna believe it?
Speaker 2: Say he telling me that your freshman year.
Speaker 1: Man, No, I win took it. Uh, you know how,
Speaker 1: you gotta go take the sat, Go take the sat.
Speaker 1: I come out the motherfucker and I'm just pissed, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just a bad feeling about it. So I
Speaker 1: was just in the run. I had to get up
Speaker 1: Heller early to get it, so I was already up.
Speaker 1: So I get to the house. My man comes through,
Speaker 1: like Joe how. I go like, man, I fuck that shit.
Speaker 1: I don't just negative. He's like, man, let's go hoop,
Speaker 1: so go hoo. When I go, who Scotty pipping? And
Speaker 1: there Jordan in there. So we watched George Ordan, let
Speaker 1: me play whatever. So after we play, whole bunch of
Speaker 1: other shit goes on ship. After we get done, Zeke
Speaker 1: and I see I see Zeke in the leather. He
Speaker 1: got like dinosaurs on the jacket. It looked like an
Speaker 1: average you know how a race got the column.
Speaker 2: So he in the corner with his legs. You can't
Speaker 2: even you just see his legs. But he like this
Speaker 2: in the jacket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just see me and Scottie Pippen got
Speaker 1: to like a rumble, you know what I'm saying. Car
Speaker 1: has the street ning in there and all this other
Speaker 1: shit going on. This ship going on. So zeke in
Speaker 1: the corner. I see the feet. I'm like, see what's up?
Speaker 1: Louid like, oh shit. They set me there for two hours.
Speaker 1: He told me shit that only z no. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Zac a river man. I left that.
Speaker 1: I went to my I went to my coach. Damnit
Speaker 1: like this, hey man from the door man, I'm just
Speaker 1: sit down, tall man. I just talked to this what
Speaker 1: we're doing, get out of here? Woof turned around start
Speaker 1: watch TV. I don't know if I hit him. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I grabbed him, but I grabbed him
Speaker 1: to turn him back around. Hey man, write this down.
Speaker 1: And he saw my face. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They're working out putting on the suit with the picket.
Speaker 1: So when you say you gotta believe it, that's real ship, Honey.
Speaker 1: I'm a music fan when it came to getting ready
Speaker 1: for games. You know what I'm saying. Music was a
Speaker 1: big part of how I got how I got ready,
Speaker 1: part of my big you know, preparing. I hit at
Speaker 1: you in the music business. Now, congratulations that man. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge I'm a huge money back fan, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man, Yeah, Man, Yeah, y'all doing it. Man,
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. How did you get
Speaker 1: into the music business?
Speaker 2: Man? Just being down there, being involved in the city, bro,
Speaker 2: just being being that person in the city. Like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a type of guy like I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: come and shake your head. I'm gonna go to the
Speaker 2: roughest neighborhood and see the kids. I'm gonna go where
Speaker 2: the players don't want to go, you feel me. So
Speaker 2: that's the difference about me, Like, and uh, the city
Speaker 2: see that. You know, real guys see that. And you know,
Speaker 2: bag had the talent, man, and before you know he signed,
Speaker 2: we was he was throwing parties and filling out the
Speaker 2: whole city coming out. I'm like, man, let's work together.
Speaker 2: We worked together. He wanted to work. We did this thing, man,
Speaker 2: and here it go, you know what I mean, God
Speaker 2: with Gotti and uh wow, man, you know shot this
Speaker 2: thing out of here.
Speaker 1: Man doing it, Bro, That's how you supposed to be too,
Speaker 1: because everybody needs support to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And Memphis so got so much talent. Bro. We got
Speaker 2: a roster fuller, you know, great talent, you know, from
Speaker 2: from Big thirty, from Big Homie g you know a
Speaker 2: lot of the guys d Moulah. So we got a
Speaker 2: lot of talent of becoming talent man, and Memphis.
Speaker 1: Full of it. Man. A lot of good music come
Speaker 1: out of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: Ja, yeah all that man, Man, that's classic music to
Speaker 1: me and you. I'm a country boy from South Carolina
Speaker 1: and I got to Chicago and they was really fucking
Speaker 1: with a ball I'm talking about you know, pump and Chetties,
Speaker 1: thirty balls, all that. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You think because Memphis was you think Memphis reminded you
Speaker 1: of some of the origins of home, damn right, just
Speaker 1: being a small town in you know, small town's a
Speaker 1: hospital they speaking, you know, go you know, you don't
Speaker 1: come off. You don't walk inbouy the neighborhood, not wave
Speaker 1: and say what's up? You said, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know I still say yes, ma'am. No, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: You know, the people get you know, people get offended
Speaker 2: by that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's a respect thing. That's all respect. Though, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 1: That's respect. You say yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
Speaker 2: You know, some people get mad. I still say it
Speaker 2: to this day. I still open the door for people.
Speaker 2: That's the way I was raised. You know, I had him.
Speaker 2: I ain't had no daddy, so I had a mama,
Speaker 2: So I might want playing that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, So that's why you said seeing that
Speaker 2: that Semiler, you know, seeing that similarities where you're coming
Speaker 2: up from. That's why Memphis. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I still work for the team and do stuff for
Speaker 2: the grids. It's still busy in the organization and giving
Speaker 2: back to the people of the city.
Speaker 1: Would you ever get in an ownership Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they should. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think if you spent enough time with a team, you
Speaker 1: should at least have the option. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you should have the action to be able to come
Speaker 1: in at a at at and not at a higher
Speaker 1: evaluation either, because you've actually helped build this whole thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you should have
Speaker 1: some understanding because I've seen what you did in the
Speaker 1: community with helping people with bills and helping people just
Speaker 1: get through everyday life. Man, that you know, when we
Speaker 1: used to have to do the community stuff, that's really
Speaker 1: what the community was. Now. It's crazy that you spoke
Speaker 1: about going into a place where the players didn't want
Speaker 1: to go. And some of the rougher neighborhoods, some of
Speaker 1: the rougher neighborhoods are kind of the gems of the
Speaker 1: city in Minneapolis. Man, when I would go over north
Speaker 1: of Minneapolis and South Minneapolis, or over the East Saint
Speaker 1: Paul where it was, you know, East Saint Paul, it's
Speaker 1: like South Side of Chicago. It's all gds. But I
Speaker 1: would go over there and do school stuff, and man,
Speaker 1: the guys just want to send.
Speaker 2: Him talk shake your hands, the guys.
Speaker 1: And I never understood, while we never did more. So
Speaker 1: I used to actually say, you know what, I want
Speaker 1: my schools to be these schools because I know that
Speaker 1: these schools was getting left out. So you know, I
Speaker 1: give Upstairs credit for what they got right, but what
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking on is what I know. So I
Speaker 1: used to have to make them come over here and
Speaker 1: do stuff on the south side, do something on the
Speaker 1: north you know what I'm saying, Like all them schools
Speaker 1: we talking about broad schools that got money. I say
Speaker 1: this to say that that script is needed in every
Speaker 1: every franchise, every sports franchise, because as you make so
Speaker 1: much money, man, man, you forget about you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So them programs. Man, if you was
Speaker 1: going to put a program in Memphis, what kind of
Speaker 1: programs you put in Memphis for young kids to thrive?
Speaker 2: You know what I will put And we actually we're
Speaker 2: working towards there, cause you know, we got some things
Speaker 2: coming up. Like I was telling you earlier, me and
Speaker 2: ta stop the violence. I want to put games together,
Speaker 2: get these kids able to go talk to some of
Speaker 2: these jobs and some of these owners around the city
Speaker 2: in the summertime. Get some of these fifteen sixteen year
Speaker 2: olds job. Let's hit up something like a job corps.
Speaker 2: They ain't gotta be a lot where we can get
Speaker 2: a job and make some money, have different options and
Speaker 2: different avenues. Instead of the youngsters getting out of getting
Speaker 2: out of school every summer and I ain't got nothing to do,
Speaker 2: Let's get these kids something to do. You know, Let's
Speaker 2: just give them some options to do something. Either just
Speaker 2: work a job or we throw a camp. Every summer.
Speaker 2: We have a couple camps where they can get some
Speaker 2: money in they pocket where they ain't got to rob
Speaker 2: or they ain't got to stand on the corner with
Speaker 2: the dope sack and you know, hustling. So giving these
Speaker 2: kids some different opportunities to have something to do in
Speaker 2: the summertime.
Speaker 1: Some new waves scripts, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's some shit we working on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I would love to be able to do
Speaker 1: something like that, which you would add on. You know,
Speaker 1: we're a production team in here, and I know a
Speaker 1: lot of us to start to get into production, starting
Speaker 1: to get into film, movie TVs, docs and all that.
Speaker 1: I think the next wave of kids need to understand
Speaker 1: how to work computers and cold and make aps. Talk
Speaker 1: about how to actually create their own. I'm I'm when
Speaker 1: you talk me, when you shot at me the the
Speaker 1: Ta I dial. I want to actually build onto that,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do that. But we're gonna move it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna actually do it in some cities.
Speaker 1: We're gonna identify that because you know what, it can't
Speaker 1: just be like a weekend either. There's got to be
Speaker 1: something that lasts to where the kid, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know when the festival come in, we go to
Speaker 1: the festival, well mondays and it's gone to the next city, right,
Speaker 1: there's not the city. Man, two weeks later, we never
Speaker 1: forgot about, you know what I'm saying. So it needs
Speaker 1: to be something that's that's consistent. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm only saying that to say to go into I
Speaker 1: just knew you just did your doc man talk about
Speaker 1: what that experience was like. Was it crazy going back?
Speaker 2: It was good man, just going back for that from
Speaker 2: a retirement Jersey because they had I did it all.
Speaker 2: Part of it was just all the love that the
Speaker 2: city showed me.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's just like, man, you know, I'm I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: a house there. You know, I just sold my house well,
Speaker 2: I'm in the process of getting another house there because
Speaker 2: that's how much I love the city. Man. And the
Speaker 2: documentary just showed the you know, where I come from,
Speaker 2: where I come from, my career, where I started, Portland,
Speaker 2: my my my trials and triplations where you know, I
Speaker 2: was a youngster. You know, I'm riding down MLK nineteen
Speaker 2: with my first truck. I got all the TVs on smoking.
Speaker 2: We It's like I'm like on Friday, when they rolled
Speaker 2: the window down, the smoke come out. But you know,
Speaker 2: just you know, young nigga, not knowing coming from where
Speaker 2: you come from. So just learning and you know, just
Speaker 2: talking about that type of shit coming from I come
Speaker 2: from Portland, where coming to Memphis now where the whole
Speaker 2: city is loved, you know, the whole tried state, all
Speaker 2: the you know, the areas. So it's just showing where
Speaker 2: my growth at and the things I've been to. Man,
Speaker 2: where I come from. The kid in North Carolina state
Speaker 2: birds Big DJ. Yeah what beach Man.
Speaker 1: When I first when I first saw him do anything,
Speaker 1: the first thing I was like, I thought that was
Speaker 1: your son. I was like, Zach, know man, somebody came there.
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, says yourself. Son. Okay, I looked up. Okay,
Speaker 1: you do you know what I'm saying. So I know
Speaker 1: kids out help me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, big as hell.
Speaker 1: But I was, bro, that is man.
Speaker 2: You shure ain't your something? Bro? He I might need
Speaker 2: to get that. I might just get a swaven. She
Speaker 2: was going on.
Speaker 1: Man, Bro, he looked just like you, play like z
Speaker 1: bo and it's effective in today's game. You know they
Speaker 1: say that your style slow the game. Damn nah No.
Speaker 1: I like the kid too, man, your thoughts on I
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: I like his touch too. He got a touch.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know it's so crazy. We got his partner that
Speaker 2: he deal with it. I know his man, Ricky from
Speaker 2: Chicago Wall So I talked them. We talked on the
Speaker 2: phone and everything on a three way call. And I've
Speaker 2: been checking on him, man, you know, telling me looking
Speaker 2: good because man, his body doesn't transfer transformed. His body.
Speaker 2: The kid looked good, Bro, you ain't seen it look good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He working out? He I think he's working out
Speaker 2: back home or down there in Florida. I think I
Speaker 2: think he might be in Miami working slim, looking gooding
Speaker 2: somebody's camp. Yeah, he's but he gonna get somebody campt
Speaker 2: he's too nice. And I got my boy Kenny he
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Loten he in Chicago. But Burns he got
Speaker 2: a chance. But you know, the game changed, so I
Speaker 2: got told him. I talked to DJ. Man, just focus
Speaker 2: on your bodies, focus on getting the best shape you can.
Speaker 2: You got the skills, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 2: like you said, the game has changed. They don't want
Speaker 2: all that shit.
Speaker 1: That's over, you know, so you know, yeah, yeah, picking
Speaker 1: and popping, yeah, popping in his feet. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What's your thoughts on today's game when you
Speaker 1: watch it?
Speaker 2: I love the game, you know. I love where the game.
Speaker 2: I love where the skills at because yeah, because the
Speaker 2: ship they doing now, if they was doing that with us,
Speaker 2: he ain't got no guys taking no step back triple threes.
Speaker 2: You know. So the game has changed. You ain't You
Speaker 2: got Wemby. He's setting foot bro, going between your legs like.
Speaker 1: He come on, bro, and Winby is scary. I look
Speaker 1: at Weinby and I'm like, man, do he even know
Speaker 1: where he can?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if he invested in like a chem?
Speaker 1: Elijah won tape or if he actually went and seek
Speaker 1: out Timmy Duncan and actually got some of that knowledge.
Speaker 2: It's scary about him. Scary, it's scary. I gotta go
Speaker 2: watch him play man. He excited, He exciting it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he he wanted them wait till he's simplified. He
Speaker 2: stopped doing all this dribbling, start hitting you off the
Speaker 2: glass and just jabbing you. Yah, what made you simplify?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: At what point did you start simplifying your game?
Speaker 2: Man? As I probably, like, like, you know, probably as
Speaker 2: I got older, because I was seeing the game change,
Speaker 2: you know, because even with mephis like they brought me
Speaker 2: off the bitch probably I think, you know, Fears brought
Speaker 2: my bitch because he wanted to play smaller.
Speaker 1: So I see how it was progressing.
Speaker 2: I see how things was going when you know, towards
Speaker 2: the end of my career, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: how they want to open, you know, play fast. Everybody
Speaker 2: want to adopt to how go to state play, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, everybody's seen that wave, how they
Speaker 2: came in, so everybody kind of wanted the teams want
Speaker 2: to play that way. But yeah, I definitely seen it
Speaker 2: coming changes towards the end my career, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, really shooting more. That's why I got to
Speaker 2: shooting more threes, doing more face ups, and you know,
Speaker 2: simplifying the game.
Speaker 1: I shild made you much more hard to guard, because
Speaker 1: then I came in thinking I was just gonna have
Speaker 1: to bare hug and it's gonna be this ball fight
Speaker 1: and then you win. You like, I was like, did
Speaker 1: you banking it off the glass? Then you got the
Speaker 1: little slow ass jab.
Speaker 2: Listen, then you can hold the motherfucker. You know your hands,
Speaker 2: just men, you hold me the whole time, you doing
Speaker 2: what you want to do to me. I'm like, rep Man,
Speaker 2: look at it. So let's say, man.
Speaker 1: So now that we're in here, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the secret. It's all y'all out here watching this. So
Speaker 1: I learned very early that if you do something in
Speaker 1: the first quarter and you do it in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: that's called consistency. Yeah. So when I learned this the
Speaker 1: first out. You probably remember this the first time I played,
Speaker 1: when we was in Portland and you had a really
Speaker 1: good game, I think twenty and like fifteen something. I
Speaker 1: think he was coming off the bench or something. Next time,
Speaker 1: I came up there, you were starting, it was your
Speaker 1: team whatever, whatever, right you were first to hit, so
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't never played you, so first to hit,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You had a crazy touch, but it was first to hit.
Speaker 1: You and Mellow probably to me are the most aggressive
Speaker 1: office of players that I've ever played. That was just
Speaker 1: just as I've been aggressive on defense whatever. So from
Speaker 1: first to hit, that's where I got that from. Like
Speaker 1: you was hit me first. You were selling me, getting
Speaker 1: in ones into whatever, and I was like, damn. So
Speaker 1: next time I played you, I made sure to hit
Speaker 1: first and then work after that. But then I started
Speaker 1: I started like talking to some events and they was like, man, listen,
Speaker 1: whatever you do in the first cause you got to
Speaker 1: doing the second and third day of that. I was like, huh,
Speaker 1: so if you bore a nigga to that bore him
Speaker 1: in the second day, they might not. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I was said why because they saw you do it
Speaker 1: in the first And I was like, and then they
Speaker 1: can't call every five, so I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 2: So did that ship too. We listen, cause man, I listened.
Speaker 1: But listen, you can't do everything with everybody. You understand,
Speaker 1: I know I knew you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I already know about I'm hearing you first, but then
Speaker 1: I'm fronting you. I'm making him throw it over the
Speaker 1: top of me, and we wrestling it, guess, and they
Speaker 1: letting us wrestle. So I'm like, oh, they're letting us wrestle, okay,
Speaker 1: so I can get away. So I'm grabbing you. He's like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I.
Speaker 2: Can't move, So that's what you got.
Speaker 1: So what I did in the first I knew I
Speaker 1: was gonna get a cow on one and two, right,
Speaker 1: But I knew if I did it. Second, knew he
Speaker 1: wanted to go play. Second, third, fourth, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a rest, right. But when we get in here, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. And that's why they You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you're gonna call the five, and he'll be like, okay,
Speaker 1: he ain't holding you almost even with that, so and
Speaker 1: then I'm on and then I'm off. I didn't hold
Speaker 1: you for the whole ten seconds.
Speaker 2: And that's why when I knew we played, y'all, I
Speaker 2: knew to get my motherfucker rest, broh, because I knew
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a night. It's gonna be an the
Speaker 2: battle with you. Man, so to the greatest ever do it.
Speaker 2: Give your flowers too, bro, cause I learned a lot
Speaker 2: from you, seeing how you come coming up coming out
Speaker 2: of high school, just you know, seeing D Miles. You
Speaker 2: know that was my boy watching YouTube. So we kind
Speaker 2: of looked up to you too, and you paid away
Speaker 2: for us, thinking cause I was gonna come out of
Speaker 2: high school for you. You know, I know D Miles was
Speaker 2: coming out. We were the same class. D mind like, Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm gone, I just want McDonald's MVP Kentucky Derby, MVP
Speaker 2: USA game. Everything I played in I dominated. Folks would
Speaker 2: tell you that. De Mouse tell you that. So he like, man,
Speaker 2: you min will come on out. I was in the
Speaker 2: room with you know the Posting Twins. You remember the
Speaker 2: two Twins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was in the hood in Indiana at my mama house.
Speaker 2: She like, son, I was like, mam, what you want
Speaker 2: me to do? She like, baby, I want you to
Speaker 2: go to school for one more year. Like I told
Speaker 2: the post to him, I'm like, man, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: to school.
Speaker 1: Just what we're doing.
Speaker 2: That was the best thing ever could have happened because
Speaker 2: you know, I ain't saying that I could have went
Speaker 2: to the league. You know, ain't comfort none. So it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I could have win any kind of way.
Speaker 2: So Lord and misgan state getting that year, discipline, learning
Speaker 2: things from coaching from you know that school, and you know,
Speaker 2: being a professional. That took me a long way, Bron.
Speaker 1: They grew you, Yeah that man. Listen, Bro, you know
Speaker 1: what in all of this, nobody talks about the growth
Speaker 1: of you, how you developing to who you are today. Bro,
Speaker 1: you had to go through the Portland stuff to get
Speaker 1: to a situation like Memphis and really feel like, man,
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. So everybody's journey is different, Bro,
Speaker 1: and how you get this, how you got to get there?
Speaker 1: But you know, like in anything, man, I felt like
Speaker 1: at the times we played, Bro, they were trying to
Speaker 1: weed out a certain type of player. And if you
Speaker 1: ain't have no, go in you. And if you ain't
Speaker 1: have no this is my dream. I'm finna chasing and
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna bite down and get this. You
Speaker 1: was out in two three years. Think about all the
Speaker 1: real niggas thisan, Bro, I know, do nobody like that
Speaker 1: team but Bro, one of my favorite teams is the
Speaker 1: Portland team.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: That was one of man and y'all. It's hard to
Speaker 1: be bro. You couldn't come in here with all that
Speaker 1: big fellow. What's up? Big fella talking about big fellas
Speaker 1: like he wasn't knowing nothing. Man, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lord, I love you, Bro, I love y'all.
Speaker 1: Bro, real ship. I say this all the time.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I know that wasn't commercially fun for the league, but
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was like, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like it was fun. It was a bunch of real
Speaker 1: guys and stuff. Trent played in Portland earlier on Trent.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know Trent real one real yeah man playing
Speaker 2: in Portland. Brother that was coming into Portland. Ticket Man,
Speaker 2: them guys brought me in. But you know, I'm awesome,
Speaker 2: Like I am there. I learned Ship every day, so
Speaker 2: I'm like a sponge. I'm like what I need to do, Damon,
Speaker 2: I need to do sit like the like man, go home. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm like ship, all right, I'm going home. But they
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like on that wave like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm like learning this. I'm growing, you know, like you said,
Speaker 2: so man just doing that being there. I learned so
Speaker 2: much from them guys. Man she man just another guy
Speaker 2: just watching the way he played like y'all. You know that,
Speaker 2: y'all game was kind of hybrid before you know the post.
Speaker 2: He was already doing you and she facing up shooting
Speaker 2: threes and picking and popping like ship like that. So
Speaker 2: just Portland's good man. I learned a lot in Portland.
Speaker 2: Man up man some great years, man, great years. You
Speaker 2: got old schools, got some Yeah, I gotta dunk Donk,
Speaker 2: you gotta show you a picture of it, nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker almost done.
Speaker 1: Where you get it from?
Speaker 2: Uh, they built it. They building it and I build it.
Speaker 2: You just built them that fuck ready to.
Speaker 1: You know who do that? Tim Duncan, Yeah, Dunk got
Speaker 1: dunk that lives in the garage, Yo, shout the TV
Speaker 1: doing it. Got dreads and ship being there doing that.
Speaker 2: Ship I heard he got a shot, got a crazy reach.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Ric Gross got the dunk stand in
Speaker 1: the open, locking down in Miami.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bross got some ship too.
Speaker 1: He got some ship ship. Yeah. When you doing this
Speaker 1: call show.
Speaker 2: N I got me to do that, bro. That's that's
Speaker 2: what I want to put together a zebra cardion Memphis.
Speaker 1: All them dumb shout.
Speaker 2: They still about those out there. Yeah, they ryan coloring
Speaker 2: sturdy balls. They ryan all kind of ship out there,
Speaker 2: trunk rowling and ships. I'm too facing my speakers for it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that myself's forward wonder years and sh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all was gonna put up in some electrical ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just knew y'all had
Speaker 1: adapted to electrical and gray A and all this other ship.
Speaker 1: Let me hear your first. Let me and your top
Speaker 1: top rappers brot you no order and they are Okay,
Speaker 1: you can throw luth in there if you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know I got my I got my
Speaker 2: R and B list to listen.
Speaker 1: I got says music whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I listened to a lot of uh Bobby
Speaker 2: wol Mac, you know, Tim.
Speaker 1: Ta something, the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know, my old school, Especially when I'm riding in
Speaker 2: my old schools all listen to nothing but old school.
Speaker 2: I love it supposed to be. But man, I got
Speaker 2: I gotta go with whole biggie future. Okay future, little
Speaker 2: Wayne Wheezy, gotta put Wheezy in there.
Speaker 1: Who makes the fifth? Who who's five on the list?
Speaker 1: Do you go, rapper?
Speaker 2: Do you go? R and B? I got a whole
Speaker 2: different arm mixed, mixed the R and B.
Speaker 1: Just getting ready for the game. You got got you.
Speaker 2: I ain't even know that ain't this was I just yes, man.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot is a lot. You know I
Speaker 2: got You know, I gotta put it there, man, I
Speaker 2: gotta put t I in there, Gotta put tip in there,
Speaker 2: you know. I you know, I fuck with tip and
Speaker 2: I come off of that tip too, So I gotta
Speaker 2: put a tip in my top five.
Speaker 1: You forget about that young head too, But that young tip,
Speaker 1: that ship raised right.
Speaker 2: That ship niggas forgetting my tip though, has a tip.
Speaker 1: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, it's a lot of great artists out there too.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of music raises too.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know that top five.
Speaker 2: But that's a tough boy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I thought she was gonna be on
Speaker 1: some do it dial. I thought she was gonna go h.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how he was gonna go. I thought
Speaker 1: he's gonna go twist. I know you're gonna go shot down.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna go Freddy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of news, a lot of good music out there, man,
Speaker 2: a lot of music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Your boy he killing
Speaker 1: it though, money back man, man, Bro, he won them one.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I ain't really shocked that on on on on like
Speaker 1: his run either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like Memphis teed up to have more come
Speaker 1: out of it, right what.
Speaker 2: They got so much talent, brou and you know we
Speaker 2: you know, we got the regulabel down there, so we's
Speaker 2: constantly looking for talent, endless entertainment, constantly trying to you know,
Speaker 2: keep building this brand and man, building this good music
Speaker 2: and making this good music.
Speaker 1: What's the city need down there? What myths need?
Speaker 2: Some opportunities, you know, opportunities, you know, more jobs at
Speaker 2: least role models people, you know, you know, guys to
Speaker 2: get into community and tell them, you know, this is
Speaker 2: not the dude, Yeah, you know, not all that other bullshit,
Speaker 2: you know, just straight positive shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Cause it's been so much negativity, so much trauma, so
Speaker 2: much loss. It's only one way, you know, and it
Speaker 2: ain't no hope you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you know.
Speaker 2: That's the fucked up thing about it. You know, seeing
Speaker 2: the youngsters ten and nine with no hope out of
Speaker 2: school carrying pistols and you know, got the dope sack
Speaker 2: on them. Young ays ain't even going to school. They
Speaker 2: take your ass to school. Bruh, get off the block.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 1: So I learned the long time ago that when you invest,
Speaker 1: you invest with things are down or when they on
Speaker 1: the lower side of the of the curve.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I see out here in
Speaker 1: La man Or, I see in the West Coast that
Speaker 1: they'll set up a bunch of shops for you to
Speaker 1: learn to work the camera, how to edit. They got
Speaker 1: a tennis shoe joint where you can get the air
Speaker 1: Force one you can make your own shoe. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just watching how other cities do it. Activate their
Speaker 1: kids and keep their kids in a box, or not
Speaker 1: in a box, but just locked in on something, whether
Speaker 1: it's sports, whether it's recreation, where it's the instrument, where
Speaker 1: it's music, whatever it is. Man, I really want to
Speaker 1: get like when we see in chop Bro, I really
Speaker 1: want to talk about bringing those operatives to where your
Speaker 1: kids can actually go to go here every weekend and
Speaker 1: make a new make a new Nike, make a new Puma,
Speaker 1: make a new Adidas, you know what I'm saying. Or
Speaker 1: make their own shit. And that's what starts out the
Speaker 1: idea of creativity. Imagine who you saw in your neighborhood
Speaker 1: that put it in the basket to make you go
Speaker 1: get the ball and start dribbling that that that it's
Speaker 1: almost like a it's almost like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: call it duty, but it is as someone who has
Speaker 1: created something in Minneapolis, as someone who has created something
Speaker 1: in Memphis, has someone that has something a background in
Speaker 1: Indiana and where we come from and all this. You know,
Speaker 1: I know we're doing a bunch, but I really feel
Speaker 1: like it be doing would be our responsibility to go
Speaker 1: back and give new script because we can't.
Speaker 2: Like you said, like like you said, they like I said,
Speaker 2: who I've seen putting the ball in hoop? So you
Speaker 2: got somebody come to the city and bring a different
Speaker 2: element and showing these young kids this and that's gonna
Speaker 2: keep them locked in. That's what I'm like you said,
Speaker 2: not just something just for now, something man, consistent.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean kids on their phone. Everybody on
Speaker 1: the phone. So let's just say we got ten kids
Speaker 1: eight nine on them on the phone. Bro, So imagine
Speaker 1: if I showed them how to not only tree apps,
Speaker 1: if I showed you how to code and put stuff
Speaker 1: on here, take stuff off. If I showed you how
Speaker 1: to make an app. If I showed you, you know,
Speaker 1: to shoes, you y'all, y'all just jumped the train and
Speaker 1: took But if I showed you how to actually make
Speaker 1: your own shoes, you ain't even have to. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about a different scriptures though. The kids
Speaker 1: bro into these little ass cities that ain't none of
Speaker 1: that in there to where you got to have high
Speaker 1: budget and government to be able to go to the
Speaker 1: marror of the governor, to be able to accept, sidize
Speaker 1: and get this. This is what we gotta do, Bro,
Speaker 1: We gotta go sit with the governor.
Speaker 2: Get him on.
Speaker 1: Hey, look all that bridgey'all. Bring here for transportation, y'all
Speaker 1: for the roads? No, no, no, no, come over here, give
Speaker 1: me this right here. Let me go over here, Bill
Speaker 1: the z BO Center and I'm gonna have this in
Speaker 1: that center. And then every Monday, every Saturday, every whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever you feel the bro, that's the move. If we
Speaker 1: ain't doing that, bro, the scripts are too traditional. Carrying
Speaker 1: a gun.
Speaker 2: You ain't going to school.
Speaker 1: You got the dope pack, bro.
Speaker 2: You dumb as hell. Bro.
Speaker 1: They got drones now. They kept telling you, Bob, I
Speaker 1: have run up on you right now. You straight crash
Speaker 1: our mission. So I'm just on something crash. I got
Speaker 1: to give you another imagination. If you listen to the
Speaker 1: music and the music made you do that, Okay, let
Speaker 1: me give you something else to give you another script.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Till we get together and shopping for real. Because man,
Speaker 2: anything about helping his youth, I'm with it, man, like
Speaker 2: TA going back to the Chicago throwing they doing basketball games,
Speaker 2: stop the violence, like that type of ship Like, I'm
Speaker 2: all with that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I know you with that. You've been doing that too,
Speaker 2: So bring the ship together.
Speaker 1: I'm with it. Bro. What is what's next for you? Man? Like?
Speaker 1: What do you want to conquer next?
Speaker 2: Man? Man, you know I got some shit going me in,
Speaker 2: TA got some shit going got to start our little
Speaker 2: show coming up, called out the mud Man. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Man out the mud Man coming soon.
Speaker 2: You did me and Toyalli man killing. Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: know just that ship. I work for the team, doing
Speaker 2: shit in the community and doing shit for the team.
Speaker 2: So just business man, Just trying to get out there
Speaker 2: and learn more, man, and just keep it moving, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Showing the good guys like you
Speaker 2: and learn. You know you guys paving the way in
Speaker 2: this media thing. You you know, Matt Stack, Jack, all
Speaker 2: the guys. You know, all these guys are doing a
Speaker 2: great job.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's motivating.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Man. Well, I love your goal, man,
Speaker 1: and I love how you how you a visionary keeping
Speaker 1: up with everything you're doing. Man. If you know, if
Speaker 1: you think I can ever help anything you you with
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, you let me know him right here,
Speaker 1: bro rooting for your daughter. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh Now, I gotta watch your son say if you
Speaker 1: can hit his mama, y'all's hand bends heat for your
Speaker 1: low eyes. Get over there here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Man, shout to the kids and everything you're doing. Bro,
Speaker 1: anything you think I can.
Speaker 2: Help you with you, bro Man, you hollers love man's love.
Speaker 2: You know what it is, Honey, I already know Jack
Speaker 2: Man Man seventy five year ago, you're doing today,