WEBVTT - Z-Bo Discusses the 'Grit & Grind' Memphis Era, Ja Morant, DJ Burns | KG Certified 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.080 Man, Man, grab the ball, man, cause today Man, we 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.640 having a great, great conversation with one of my favorite 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.640 favorite people in the world, Man, Zach Randolph. Man, one 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.720 of the more tougher guards that I had to guard. Man, 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.000 he's gonna slide through. We're gonna catch up with him 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:20.840 and then chop it up. Man. Check this out. What 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:26.440 a boy that's up here. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:32.919 Man, I'm like, we know he had to do it. Joy, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.640 how you doing man, Bro, it's chilling lock Man, Man, kids, 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.200 keep me busy. Darkshit freshman in Louisville. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.199 That's this year now, that's who already went down there. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.840 So she got her now, Man, it's it's nice. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.360 Man, show you what's ow So what you just saw 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.240 kitchen just where we shoot at in here, and then 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.600 this right here is a whole bathrooms, theater right here, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.000 it's office right here. And then when we do traditional 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.160 podcast we can do them in here. It's a green room. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.000 And then this is for half styles to get here 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.360 and stuff in here. But check this outro. Just won't 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.360 we be at bro just you know, staying out of 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.800 the way, you know what I'm saying, man, grinding, staying 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.680 in it, just you know, making ship for doucing Ship. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.120 You know what I'm saying, that's one you know what 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.080 I mean, just being out for one. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.600 We got going yeah yeah yeah. Actually, you know I 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.440 want to pick your brand, telling Mike to. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.920 So Ship, let's chop man. I thank you for coming 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:29.200 in here. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.679 And you're in music too, yeah, so you. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.800 Know, we don't want to be having problems with probably 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:41.120 be having problems with having getting music that's in projects. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.400 It's very hard, you know what I'm saying, Like trying 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.800 to you know, the licensed. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.760 Music and get in in TVs and movies. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:54.760 That's super hard. So guys, yeah, y'all good man, thanks 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.760 for coming through. Bro, real if you want to keep 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.279 you guys talking about this, ain't no rules in here 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:02.880 with you feel what I'm saying. I'm glad you came 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.920 through straight up. Man, come on, you want to come through? 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.200 I said, hell yeah, man. How retirement being for you? 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.680 Man? Man? It been good, bro, been real good. My 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.680 kids keeping me busy man, and you know with that 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:19.120 just business and everything. But my daughter's freshman Louisville playing ball. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.040 Congratulations. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.959 My son he played baseball in Baltimore, So that guy, Yeah, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.800 my daughter she a freshman son. He ten. So man 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:27.400 the kids. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.919 Man, what's up? Man? Man, honey, I'm doing a recruiting 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:36.480 ship too. Now, I got a sixty year old volleyball. Yeah, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.480 six ' four jump out the gym. Yeah. Different. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.640 You know what I'm saying, Like like Jo daughter, she 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.440 she a beast. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.960 Man Asian, Yeah yeah, be Yeah. I didn't. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:47.280 I didn't. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.560 I didn't even now that we all are, you know, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.880 kind of seeing everybody kids or like young adults now 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.600 and stuff. Did you play any other sports in high 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.680 school or any other half any love like you had 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:58.720 that for basketball? 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.800 Man, I had, you know, I tried to like football, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.080 probably like my sophomore year. Man, so long, Bro, that 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.000 ship was not for me at all. Man. I got 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.720 out there, I got smacked. Man football over Yeah, Man, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.640 I got here so hard, but I'm ready to get down. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.480 I ain't come back the next day. Man, surd a 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.760 so bad ticket, I said, man'mna stick with that ball 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:21.160 straight up. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:26.080 Hold on you ship. I'm a sophomore in high school, okay, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:31.520 fifteen long, lanky, skinny though, And that was it one time. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.880 You know what I tell everybody, Bro, you fooled everybody 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.880 because you was a lot more athletic than you put 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.360 on it people. I was say, z bo can't jump 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.960 up a pizza. I'm like, shit, is z boy two 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.120 here in your mother for me? Like this sh smoothie 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.040 dog first. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.360 Off, as the motherfucker too head butten. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.880 Listen, a lot of people don't know this, bro, So 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.480 first off, I wanted to give you flowers. Bro, you 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.360 was one of the very few people that I got 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.200 on this list of five to maybe four guys that 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.840 the interaction was a chess match. I knew exactly what 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.400 I was getting when I played against you. We always 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.840 had a bunch of respect for each other. But I 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.400 also knew in between those lines what it was. Man. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.680 I was telling all the guys that when we found 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.160 out we was gonna do the interview, I was like, man, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.560 this is probably one of the hardest guards in league history. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.400 I came in with, you know, as being young playing 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.919 against an older Charles Barkley, a older Carl Malone and 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.520 that league. You know what I'm saying, Larry Johnson, you 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.840 know what I'm saying when means to put you in 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.560 the basket in a world where we are finess. So 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.520 when you know I ended up having to end up 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.599 having a finesse in my game and not just so 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.919 much back down. You kept it though. One of my 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.719 questions to you, Bro, is why you didn't switch up 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.200 to finesse when everybody's finessing. You just kept you know 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:54.719 what I'm saying. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.560 And just I knew getting my bread and butter at tea, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.760 so I knew a lot of guys, like you said, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.200 they they really want to the game was changing, you 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.520 know what I mean, Like you said, shit, I'm gonna 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.800 throw that motherfuck down there. I'm gonna get it easy too, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.520 you know, hook shot or a face up. But like 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.200 during her my later years, I feel like I started 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.279 changing a little bit, popping more, facing up more, and 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.480 you know, doing things like that. But like you said, man, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.040 just sticking to my bread and butter, bro because it 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:20.960 couldn't stop it. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.960 So I'm like, shit, why no doubt it was And 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.600 you know what, it was effective and you were effective. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.600 I want to ask you what was some of your 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.600 early influences, Like who influenced I never never heard of 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.960 people who influenced you to play ball. Who was your 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.560 early influences when you hoo man, just man, the guys 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.960 in the neighborhood at the Park. You know from Indiana, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.640 so you know, walking watching Rick Smith, you know, even 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:43.840 watching you coming up. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.640 You know what I mean. He was one of them guys, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.000 you know, motivating me to keep playing. Rashid Wilesce, guys 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.360 like that, and you know, just been from Indiana. Man, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.320 hot being of basketball. You know, everybody got a goal 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.640 in Indiana. You could, I'm talking about it in the country. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.800 It's a goal on you know, on the barn. So 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.600 you know it just hoop, just bread and us and uh, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.880 I just love playing man. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.320 All the guys that I came out of Indiana, Jeff 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:15.120 t Jeff Tige, the Tige brothers. Uh, what's what's my dog? 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:15.560 I said? 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:20.760 Uh, trash dog, trashar oh, Eric Gordon, Yeah, Gordon Man, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.200 Gordon Man, I Man, I gotta I gotta get some 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.719 big respects to Gordon Man. Just that move was trash. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.280 You know what I'm saying. Not you, you know what 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.719 I'm saying. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.680 But yeah, it's a lot of basketball players come out 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.960 of Indiana. Tell us about the players coming out of 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.919 Indiana then being right next door to Illinois and Ohio. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:37.680 What was that like? 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.160 Come man, we was man going at it, Like you said, 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.800 coming up, early with the ill Illinois Warriors balling against 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.160 Dee Miles. But uh nah, I mean Indiana. We got hoopers, man, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.320 we got a lot of hoopers, and Indiana got a 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.040 lot of history, been having a lot of history. We 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.680 didn't had Oscar Robertson from you know, uh, all the 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.080 guys like this, so man, they just paving the way. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.400 And man, you got Gordon Haywood, got a lot of guys. Man, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:05.960 the plumb the Plumbly Brothers, Plumble's. I think they're from Indiana. Yeah, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.120 Desmond shout of my boys. Man. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.040 I saw the list and I was like, dangn it's 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.840 like that Seattle list. Like you don't know how many 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.000 guys came out of Seattle. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.680 Sattle got hoopers, telling that all the time. Seattle got 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.840 plenty hoopers right up like Indiana, I mean Sean Kemp 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.560 and listen, Larry bird Man, we keep going, Man, I 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.320 tell the guys. You know, I used to battle with 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.160 all of my teammates about the hot bed. Hey man, Indiana, Man, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.200 we're right there here. California, y'all got a lot of hoopers, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.200 but y'all twice the biggest of the state facts. So 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.880 we were talking about the people like. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.560 Man, yeah you're talking about that. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.080 Yeah, Man, put some money on Indiana. Man, y'all get 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.920 y'all Indiana, We get the Indiana team, get a California team, 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.240 you get Illinois, South Carolina. However, y'all want to do it, Man, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.800 we can do it. No, yeah, you know what. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.360 That's all right? 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.480 Yeah? 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.800 Oh so so man, listen, Man, I watched the doc. Man, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.000 I love your doc. The doc showed so much growth 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.920 and development with you, Bro showed so much different like 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.880 obviously the Portland you and then you get to go 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.080 through this journey and did you get to Memphis. One 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.680 of the things I loved about you going to Michigan 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.840 State was I felt like that fit. When I see 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.560 when you got introduced to the world, we got to 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.760 see how you played. I felt like Michigan State and 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.960 you fit. Now. I think a double a that fit. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.000 I think it just programs fit a certain to feel 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.080 me And I really believe that tell us about some 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.959 of the before we talk about the Memphis States, talk 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.800 about some of the that fit with Michigan State, and 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:43.920 did you see it the same way? 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.160 Man? I did, Like you said, just to fit, like 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.960 some players fit with different schools better than others. That's 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.319 why you have some players to transfer, some players to stay. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.880 And Mischigan State was that for me, just coming how 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.240 it was coach Coach Izzo. He was hard on you. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.560 I got the young Coach Izzo where he grabbed, grabbing 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.200 your jersey, speaking in your face like like you can't 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.880 the type of shit he did then, you can't do 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.720 it now. So it's different. But like that hard culture 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.559 where we had war drills where we had to work pads, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.680 you know what I mean. So you know that back 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.199 in the day. Ship So just I'm glad I went 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.080 there because he taught me a lot of discipline. He 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.840 taught me. Even though I was there for a short 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.240 period of time, I still learned so much from him 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.160 and we're still we're still close to this day. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:29.959 What's up man? You know a lot of those kids 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.760 needed that though, from being honest. Some of that is 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.600 where we came from to and being not just raised hard, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.200 but coached hard, taking direction uncles. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.320 No Grandma's you know, we from that old country from 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.560 me so so I know a lot of respect that 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.040 come through Indiana too, you know what I'm talking about. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.320 I say that to say because the Michigan state to me, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.360 mirrored with Memphis actually presented. Uh it seemed like you 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.680 was when I when I played you in New York 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.880 and I played you with the Clippers, I played you 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.320 in Portland, I felt like I was playing a different 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.920 Zach Froone. When I played you in in in Memphis, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.920 he was facing up man, your seals was crazy? You 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.800 in Mark's fucking Morton Street was I was so fucking 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.319 jealous of that. Like, man, this guy I came here, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.600 walked up with the white boy. You know, you just 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.480 sit fat assou shit front row. You know Mark used 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.240 to be a little fat kid. You just shut your 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:27.320 fat at shoot off. But I thought they were Spaniards. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.040 They couldn't understand English. Nigga understood everything. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.520 Yeah right, and he talking ship talking right right. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.600 So yeah, yeah, I say that to say that it 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.480 was just perfect. I ain't you know, I ain't hating 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:44.880 on nor none of that, but to be in the 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.120 Jersey washing, I was like, man, I was happy for you, bro. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.000 Talk about how you thought Memphis and well we'll just 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.200 talk about Memphis. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.000 And that and how that you know on so crazy ticket, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.760 the ships so crazy because you know, I had just 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.080 got traded to the Clippers. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.520 I know I saw you in uh u c l A. 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.600 But I love that moment. Bro shot sat right there 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.800 for a little bit. But I was like, damn, boy, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.240 you in that la now you and you was in Memphis. Bro, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.760 you didn't even get a chance to get out here good. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.800 And that was so crazy because at the time, I'm 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.680 getting it to the Clippers. So I'm like, okay, I 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.040 get it a guy here. Half season, you know we 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.440 ain't win me bd, Jason Marcus. We played good, we 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.720 had a good squad, we built deandres he young. So 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.520 I'm like, okay, cool. So we get the draft. They 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.680 get the number one pick. I'm like, damn, Blake Griffin. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:41.600 Damn. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.440 I'm like, man, I'm gone, you knew it. I knew 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.680 it because even though he the best player in college basketball, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.320 you got a kid just coming out of dumbinate, jumping 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.520 over cars, just you know, a baby shock. So I'm like, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.640 you know what, they got the number one pick. I'm like, damn, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.720 they probably they're gonna they're gonna end up drafting Blake 0:11:58.760 --> 0:11:59.520 at the pick. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.720 And then half then they said to you did they 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.280 did they let me. So, you know, so it left 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:06.920 something right there. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.000 Yeah, hell yeah. So it's like okay, damn. So I'm like, man, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.200 so I go to Memphis. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:16.600 What year is that? That's sixteen? What's that to me? 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.360 To me, is that is that the San Antonio year? 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:25.120 No, that's no, that's the year because I went to 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.720 Memphis day. Bro, you was m VP to me. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.760 Your room was like everybody not had their room, you 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.040 know how everybody's Dirk All not had the room when 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.600 you go through. But you had a fucking room, bro, for. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.160 Your They're getting traded that motherfucker. I'm like, I'm like, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.080 really was frustrated. I'm like, damn, I just got to 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.760 l A was in New York for a season. I'm like, man, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.120 what the hell going on? So I'm like, you know what, man, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.440 this I took it and I approached it right man. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.200 And it was guy's playing how I fitted Bruh. It's 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.959 like a like a puzzle, like a nigga just boom 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.120 from the people in the city, from the organization showing 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.080 me love can relate to me. I come in with 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:10.199 Mark Mike Conley. These guys are coming. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.079 Into their own small town small people are really really 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.560 like Southern Hospital Band. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.880 Come on, man, perfect man. Blue collar folks. Man, they 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.040 blue collar. These folks is blue collar and I'm a 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.679 blue collar player. So, Bro, that shit was God. So 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.600 I was thankful just coming in to love I got then, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.880 not only that we win it going to the playoffs. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.400 First year I got there, we proved ten to fifteen games. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.920 So you know, I said, Man, it was god. It 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.480 all worked out. So that was my best moment of 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.880 my career during that time in Memphis. In Memphis and 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:42.880 it's still mifish. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.800 One of the questions everybody always asks me, Bro, do 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.720 I go back to Many? Do I go back to 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.520 Boston When you got a life and you got kids. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.200 It's kind of hard to get back and actually be 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:01.360 that influence. You won't, but Bro, you t A and 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.319 Big Mark actually built the grind factor. Bro, y'all that 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.280 is y'alls for y'alls to go on the tombstone and 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.640 for y'alls to go to the grave with talk about 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.199 the responsibility. When you go back and you speak to Junior, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.679 you speak to who's also from Michigan State. You know 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.240 what I'm saying. When you talk to the bigs, I know, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.120 Big eating this guy there, the rookies and stuff. How 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.480 important is is spreading that h that message and just 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.640 you know what it means to be part of that 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:26.480 whole thing now. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.520 Man, them guys like you said, them guys Jared and 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.000 Big Edie John, them guys just taking on their grit 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.920 and grind and only that they accept it, you know 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.200 what I mean. You know they're like, oh yeah, we 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.560 we grinders too. Like they ain't on no soft ship. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.800 They like they want it. And that's what I like 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.800 about the young fellas. Their their talent level is it's 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.320 right there. They they're superstars in the league, Jaron, Joe bang, 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.880 and they're building a great winning team and this year 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:56.240 with job back, hey man, yeah, take your glasses all man, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.240 you see the thing coming, you know is so like, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.920 uh we gonna see but man, yeah, that Memphis was 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.160 It was the best ever for me. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.880 Bro I really what was it like to get your jersey? 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.120 Man? What it was like to give my jersey? Retired 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.320 man coming from a small city Indiana, man, country boy, man, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.200 mother on welfare. Man wasn't expected to lead the hood, 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.360 been expected to make it out. Man, It's a blessing 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.080 man to come in there and see my name in 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.920 the NBA jersey. Bro every time I go into Phoenix form, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.240 I ain't gonnaly lie Bro. I damned the shed a tear. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.360 You know what I mean? Cause come on, man, you 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.040 thinking man, won't nobody everything. There'll be a ze Bo 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.520 jersey hanging up in the NBA arenal shit. But I 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.400 did cause when I was in the hood, I was 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.680 telling the older homes I was I'm going to the league. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.960 I already knew what I was doing. My sophomore year, bruh, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.880 I was telling people that the neighborhood, all the old 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:46.400 homes at the park, I'm going to league. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:47.080 You already knew it. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.360 I already knew it. We're going to lead. And they 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.400 be like, yeah, we feel you like they ain't knocking. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.760 They like it's niggas young and confident. But you know 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.160 what I mean, That's why I teach my kids. You 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.080 gotta have that confident, especially when you're on that floor. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.320 Y'all had it comfort and you ain't they you do 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.200 it life fact. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.280 You gotta see it before anybody else can see it. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:04.720 It's real. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.400 Imagine coming in here telling your high school coach, hey, look, 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.080 we ain't going to college. We're going to high school. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.960 We're gonna straight to the lead. And what flicked at me? 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.440 Like what, let me get your ass out of here. Hey, man, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.280 write this down. I said it the second time and 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:18.960 it was in my face. He knew it was real. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.480 So I totally understand you. When you you gotta believe first, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.760 or ain't nobody gonna believe it? 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.040 Say he telling me that your freshman year. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.560 Man, No, I win took it. Uh, you know how, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.000 you gotta go take the sat, Go take the sat. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.840 I come out the motherfucker and I'm just pissed, like, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.760 you know, just a bad feeling about it. So I 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.840 was just in the run. I had to get up 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.280 Heller early to get it, so I was already up. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:45.880 So I get to the house. My man comes through, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.960 like Joe how. I go like, man, I fuck that shit. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.560 I don't just negative. He's like, man, let's go hoop, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.040 so go hoo. When I go, who Scotty pipping? And 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.280 there Jordan in there. So we watched George Ordan, let 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.240 me play whatever. So after we play, whole bunch of 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.440 other shit goes on ship. After we get done, Zeke 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.119 and I see I see Zeke in the leather. He 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.879 got like dinosaurs on the jacket. It looked like an 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.919 average you know how a race got the column. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.560 So he in the corner with his legs. You can't 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.480 even you just see his legs. But he like this 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:17.280 in the jacket. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.679 Yeah, so he just see me and Scottie Pippen got 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.320 to like a rumble, you know what I'm saying. Car 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.400 has the street ning in there and all this other 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.119 shit going on. This ship going on. So zeke in 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.080 the corner. I see the feet. I'm like, see what's up? 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.160 Louid like, oh shit. They set me there for two hours. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.760 He told me shit that only z no. You know 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.840 what I'm saying, Zac a river man. I left that. 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.359 I went to my I went to my coach. Damnit 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:42.720 like this, hey man from the door man, I'm just 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.800 sit down, tall man. I just talked to this what 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:50.120 we're doing, get out of here? Woof turned around start 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.040 watch TV. I don't know if I hit him. I 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.200 don't know how I grabbed him, but I grabbed him 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.760 to turn him back around. Hey man, write this down. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:02.040 And he saw my face. Do you know what I mean? 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.919 They're working out putting on the suit with the picket. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:17.520 So when you say you gotta believe it, that's real ship, Honey. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.440 I'm a music fan when it came to getting ready 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.320 for games. You know what I'm saying. Music was a 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.200 big part of how I got how I got ready, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.639 part of my big you know, preparing. I hit at 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.600 you in the music business. Now, congratulations that man. I'm 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.080 a huge I'm a huge money back fan, you know 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.199 what I'm saying. Man, Yeah, Man, Yeah, y'all doing it. Man, 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.400 talk about that a little bit. How did you get 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:43.359 into the music business? 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.639 Man? Just being down there, being involved in the city, bro, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.800 just being being that person in the city. Like you know, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.760 I'm a type of guy like I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.040 come and shake your head. I'm gonna go to the 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.600 roughest neighborhood and see the kids. I'm gonna go where 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.840 the players don't want to go, you feel me. So 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.960 that's the difference about me, Like, and uh, the city 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.600 see that. You know, real guys see that. And you know, 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.080 bag had the talent, man, and before you know he signed, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.919 we was he was throwing parties and filling out the 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.000 whole city coming out. I'm like, man, let's work together. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.880 We worked together. He wanted to work. We did this thing, man, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.960 and here it go, you know what I mean, God 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.879 with Gotti and uh wow, man, you know shot this 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:21.560 thing out of here. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.480 Man doing it, Bro, That's how you supposed to be too, 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.120 because everybody needs support to you know what I'm saying. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.600 And Memphis so got so much talent. Bro. We got 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.440 a roster fuller, you know, great talent, you know, from 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:37.159 from Big thirty, from Big Homie g you know a 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.280 lot of the guys d Moulah. So we got a 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.160 lot of talent of becoming talent man, and Memphis. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.800 Full of it. Man. A lot of good music come 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:45.880 out of you know what I'm saying. 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:48.399 Come on. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:58.800 Ja, yeah all that man, Man, that's classic music to 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.680 me and you. I'm a country boy from South Carolina 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.480 and I got to Chicago and they was really fucking 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.000 with a ball I'm talking about you know, pump and Chetties, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.080 thirty balls, all that. You know what I'm talking about. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.800 You think because Memphis was you think Memphis reminded you 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.560 of some of the origins of home, damn right, just 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.720 being a small town in you know, small town's a 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.680 hospital they speaking, you know, go you know, you don't 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.879 come off. You don't walk inbouy the neighborhood, not wave 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.840 and say what's up? You said, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.840 You know I still say yes, ma'am. No, yes, sir, yes, sir. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:31.040 No. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.160 You know, the people get you know, people get offended 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.240 by that. You know what I mean. 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.080 That's a respect thing. That's all respect. Though, you know 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.040 what I'm saying, a lot of people don't know that. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.960 That's respect. You say yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.919 You know, some people get mad. I still say it 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.000 to this day. I still open the door for people. 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.840 That's the way I was raised. You know, I had him. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.440 I ain't had no daddy, so I had a mama, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.240 So I might want playing that, you know what I mean. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.560 So yeah, man, So that's why you said seeing that 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.840 that Semiler, you know, seeing that similarities where you're coming 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.840 up from. That's why Memphis. You know what I mean. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.920 I still work for the team and do stuff for 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.160 the grids. It's still busy in the organization and giving 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.000 back to the people of the city. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.760 Would you ever get in an ownership Yeah, hell yeah, 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.119 I think they should. You know what I'm saying. I 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.879 think if you spent enough time with a team, you 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.080 should at least have the option. You know what I'm saying, 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:19.520 you should have the action to be able to come 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.320 in at a at at and not at a higher 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.359 evaluation either, because you've actually helped build this whole thing. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:26.879 You know what I'm saying. I think you should have 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.000 some understanding because I've seen what you did in the 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.240 community with helping people with bills and helping people just 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.920 get through everyday life. Man, that you know, when we 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.760 used to have to do the community stuff, that's really 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.560 what the community was. Now. It's crazy that you spoke 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.560 about going into a place where the players didn't want 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.159 to go. And some of the rougher neighborhoods, some of 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.199 the rougher neighborhoods are kind of the gems of the 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.040 city in Minneapolis. Man, when I would go over north 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.080 of Minneapolis and South Minneapolis, or over the East Saint 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.320 Paul where it was, you know, East Saint Paul, it's 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.080 like South Side of Chicago. It's all gds. But I 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.840 would go over there and do school stuff, and man, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:04.159 the guys just want to send. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:12.480 Him talk shake your hands, the guys. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.719 And I never understood, while we never did more. So 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:16.320 I used to actually say, you know what, I want 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.679 my schools to be these schools because I know that 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.119 these schools was getting left out. So you know, I 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.680 give Upstairs credit for what they got right, but what 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.679 what I'm speaking on is what I know. So I 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.399 used to have to make them come over here and 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.520 do stuff on the south side, do something on the 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.560 north you know what I'm saying, Like all them schools 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.680 we talking about broad schools that got money. I say 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:42.360 this to say that that script is needed in every 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.320 every franchise, every sports franchise, because as you make so 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.840 much money, man, man, you forget about you know what 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.080 I'm talking about. So them programs. Man, if you was 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.800 going to put a program in Memphis, what kind of 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.119 programs you put in Memphis for young kids to thrive? 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.600 You know what I will put And we actually we're 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.440 working towards there, cause you know, we got some things 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.040 coming up. Like I was telling you earlier, me and 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.760 ta stop the violence. I want to put games together, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.960 get these kids able to go talk to some of 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.480 these jobs and some of these owners around the city 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.280 in the summertime. Get some of these fifteen sixteen year 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.159 olds job. Let's hit up something like a job corps. 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.080 They ain't gotta be a lot where we can get 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.359 a job and make some money, have different options and 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:27.280 different avenues. Instead of the youngsters getting out of getting 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.240 out of school every summer and I ain't got nothing to do, 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.080 Let's get these kids something to do. You know, Let's 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.200 just give them some options to do something. Either just 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.960 work a job or we throw a camp. Every summer. 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.439 We have a couple camps where they can get some 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.760 money in they pocket where they ain't got to rob 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:41.760 or they ain't got to stand on the corner with 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.439 the dope sack and you know, hustling. So giving these 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.200 kids some different opportunities to have something to do in 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.399 the summertime. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.320 Some new waves scripts, right, Yeah. 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.080 That's some shit we working on. 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:52.959 Yeah, bro, I would love to be able to do 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.159 something like that, which you would add on. You know, 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.040 we're a production team in here, and I know a 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.320 lot of us to start to get into production, starting 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.919 to get into film, movie TVs, docs and all that. 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.000 I think the next wave of kids need to understand 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.120 how to work computers and cold and make aps. Talk 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:16.120 about how to actually create their own. I'm I'm when 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.119 you talk me, when you shot at me the the 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.320 Ta I dial. I want to actually build onto that, 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.280 and we're gonna do that. But we're gonna move it. 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.560 We're gonna we're gonna actually do it in some cities. 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.760 We're gonna identify that because you know what, it can't 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.760 just be like a weekend either. There's got to be 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.440 something that lasts to where the kid, you know, because 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:35.760 you know when the festival come in, we go to 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:40.280 the festival, well mondays and it's gone to the next city, right, 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.080 there's not the city. Man, two weeks later, we never 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.760 forgot about, you know what I'm saying. So it needs 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.520 to be something that's that's consistent. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.520 I'm only saying that to say to go into I 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.160 just knew you just did your doc man talk about 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.480 what that experience was like. Was it crazy going back? 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.840 It was good man, just going back for that from 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:00.800 a retirement Jersey because they had I did it all. 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.840 Part of it was just all the love that the 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:03.560 city showed me. 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:03.760 Bro. 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:07.200 It's just like, man, you know, I'm I'm gonna get 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.639 a house there. You know, I just sold my house well, 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.480 I'm in the process of getting another house there because 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.800 that's how much I love the city. Man. And the 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.280 documentary just showed the you know, where I come from, 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.760 where I come from, my career, where I started, Portland, 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:21.119 my my my trials and triplations where you know, I 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.719 was a youngster. You know, I'm riding down MLK nineteen 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.520 with my first truck. I got all the TVs on smoking. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.000 We It's like I'm like on Friday, when they rolled 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.439 the window down, the smoke come out. But you know, 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.000 just you know, young nigga, not knowing coming from where 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.480 you come from. So just learning and you know, just 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.520 talking about that type of shit coming from I come 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.600 from Portland, where coming to Memphis now where the whole 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.040 city is loved, you know, the whole tried state, all 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.679 the you know, the areas. So it's just showing where 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.040 my growth at and the things I've been to. Man, 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.840 where I come from. The kid in North Carolina state 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.360 birds Big DJ. Yeah what beach Man. 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.960 When I first when I first saw him do anything, 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.359 the first thing I was like, I thought that was 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:11.520 your son. I was like, Zach, know man, somebody came there. 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.000 It was like yeah, says yourself. Son. Okay, I looked up. Okay, 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.159 you do you know what I'm saying. So I know 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.280 kids out help me. 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:19.600 You know what I'm saying, big as hell. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.440 But I was, bro, that is man. 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.480 You shure ain't your something? Bro? He I might need 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.440 to get that. I might just get a swaven. She 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:29.119 was going on. 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.600 Man, Bro, he looked just like you, play like z 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.520 bo and it's effective in today's game. You know they 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.920 say that your style slow the game. Damn nah No. 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.840 I like the kid too, man, your thoughts on I 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:43.159 like it. 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.080 I like his touch too. He got a touch. 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:45.399 You know. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.560 You know it's so crazy. We got his partner that 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.000 he deal with it. I know his man, Ricky from 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.600 Chicago Wall So I talked them. We talked on the 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.600 phone and everything on a three way call. And I've 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.680 been checking on him, man, you know, telling me looking 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.439 good because man, his body doesn't transfer transformed. His body. 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.360 The kid looked good, Bro, you ain't seen it look good? Yeah? 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:05.560 Where? 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.280 Yeah? He working out? He I think he's working out 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.359 back home or down there in Florida. I think I 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.920 think he might be in Miami working slim, looking gooding 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.800 somebody's camp. Yeah, he's but he gonna get somebody campt 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.960 he's too nice. And I got my boy Kenny he 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:25.440 in Chicago, Loten he in Chicago. But Burns he got 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.320 a chance. But you know, the game changed, so I 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.040 got told him. I talked to DJ. Man, just focus 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.160 on your bodies, focus on getting the best shape you can. 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.399 You got the skills, you know what I mean, because 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.240 like you said, the game has changed. They don't want 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:37.920 all that shit. 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:42.600 That's over, you know, so you know, yeah, yeah, picking 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.560 and popping, yeah, popping in his feet. You know what 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.600 I'm saying. What's your thoughts on today's game when you 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:48.919 watch it? 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.120 I love the game, you know. I love where the game. 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.159 I love where the skills at because yeah, because the 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.240 ship they doing now, if they was doing that with us, 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:02.480 he ain't got no guys taking no step back triple threes. 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.560 You know. So the game has changed. You ain't You 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.640 got Wemby. He's setting foot bro, going between your legs like. 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:13.840 He come on, bro, and Winby is scary. I look 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.359 at Weinby and I'm like, man, do he even know 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:16.840 where he can? 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:17.399 Like? 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.240 Can you imagine if he invested in like a chem? 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.760 Elijah won tape or if he actually went and seek 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.000 out Timmy Duncan and actually got some of that knowledge. 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.080 It's scary about him. Scary, it's scary. I gotta go 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.840 watch him play man. He excited, He exciting it. Yeah, 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.639 so he he wanted them wait till he's simplified. He 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.000 stopped doing all this dribbling, start hitting you off the 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.280 glass and just jabbing you. Yah, what made you simplify? 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:40.520 What? 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:40.720 What? 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:40.960 What? 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:41.120 What? 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.120 At what point did you start simplifying your game? 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:47.000 Man? As I probably, like, like, you know, probably as 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.360 I got older, because I was seeing the game change, 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.240 you know, because even with mephis like they brought me 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.240 off the bitch probably I think, you know, Fears brought 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:56.720 my bitch because he wanted to play smaller. 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.640 So I see how it was progressing. 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.480 I see how things was going when you know, towards 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.280 the end of my career, you know what I mean, 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.360 how they want to open, you know, play fast. Everybody 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.560 want to adopt to how go to state play, you 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.400 know what I mean, everybody's seen that wave, how they 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.800 came in, so everybody kind of wanted the teams want 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.160 to play that way. But yeah, I definitely seen it 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.200 coming changes towards the end my career, you know what 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.200 I mean, really shooting more. That's why I got to 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.960 shooting more threes, doing more face ups, and you know, 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.120 simplifying the game. 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.320 I shild made you much more hard to guard, because 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.120 then I came in thinking I was just gonna have 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.160 to bare hug and it's gonna be this ball fight 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.400 and then you win. You like, I was like, did 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.400 you banking it off the glass? Then you got the 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.120 little slow ass jab. 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.480 Listen, then you can hold the motherfucker. You know your hands, 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.640 just men, you hold me the whole time, you doing 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.720 what you want to do to me. I'm like, rep Man, 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.880 look at it. So let's say, man. 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:45.480 So now that we're in here, I'm gonna tell you 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.560 the secret. It's all y'all out here watching this. So 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.680 I learned very early that if you do something in 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.440 the first quarter and you do it in the fourth quarter, 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:03.480 that's called consistency. Yeah. So when I learned this the 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.480 first out. You probably remember this the first time I played, 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.200 when we was in Portland and you had a really 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.480 good game, I think twenty and like fifteen something. I 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.040 think he was coming off the bench or something. Next time, 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.840 I came up there, you were starting, it was your 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.560 team whatever, whatever, right you were first to hit, so 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.320 you know, I ain't never played you, so first to hit, 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.160 it was like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.400 You had a crazy touch, but it was first to hit. 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.000 You and Mellow probably to me are the most aggressive 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.160 office of players that I've ever played. That was just 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.960 just as I've been aggressive on defense whatever. So from 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.360 first to hit, that's where I got that from. Like 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.480 you was hit me first. You were selling me, getting 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.840 in ones into whatever, and I was like, damn. So 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.400 next time I played you, I made sure to hit 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.720 first and then work after that. But then I started 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.280 I started like talking to some events and they was like, man, listen, 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:54.840 whatever you do in the first cause you got to 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.760 doing the second and third day of that. I was like, huh, 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.760 so if you bore a nigga to that bore him 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.560 in the second day, they might not. And I was like, 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.280 I was said why because they saw you do it 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.320 in the first And I was like, and then they 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.520 can't call every five, so I was like, holy shit. 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.760 So did that ship too. We listen, cause man, I listened. 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:14.040 But listen, you can't do everything with everybody. You understand, 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.480 I know I knew you. You know what I'm saying, 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.479 I already know about I'm hearing you first, but then 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.160 I'm fronting you. I'm making him throw it over the 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.479 top of me, and we wrestling it, guess, and they 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.360 letting us wrestle. So I'm like, oh, they're letting us wrestle, okay, 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.880 so I can get away. So I'm grabbing you. He's like, 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:30.440 hey man, I. 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.800 Can't move, So that's what you got. 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:35.920 So what I did in the first I knew I 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.440 was gonna get a cow on one and two, right, 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.360 But I knew if I did it. Second, knew he 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.160 wanted to go play. Second, third, fourth, we're gonna have 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.080 a rest, right. But when we get in here, this 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.040 is what I'm doing. And that's why they You're like, damn, 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.600 you're gonna call the five, and he'll be like, okay, 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.160 he ain't holding you almost even with that, so and 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.240 then I'm on and then I'm off. I didn't hold 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:53.640 you for the whole ten seconds. 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.560 And that's why when I knew we played, y'all, I 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.080 knew to get my motherfucker rest, broh, because I knew 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.240 it's gonna be a night. It's gonna be an the 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.920 battle with you. Man, so to the greatest ever do it. 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.960 Give your flowers too, bro, cause I learned a lot 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.200 from you, seeing how you come coming up coming out 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.800 of high school, just you know, seeing D Miles. You 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.800 know that was my boy watching YouTube. So we kind 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.000 of looked up to you too, and you paid away 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.000 for us, thinking cause I was gonna come out of 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.960 high school for you. You know, I know D Miles was 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.880 coming out. We were the same class. D mind like, Bro, 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.560 I'm gone, I just want McDonald's MVP Kentucky Derby, MVP 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:31.680 USA game. Everything I played in I dominated. Folks would 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.080 tell you that. De Mouse tell you that. So he like, man, 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.920 you min will come on out. I was in the 0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.680 room with you know the Posting Twins. You remember the 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:38.320 two Twins. 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:39.360 Yeah, yeah. 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.960 It was in the hood in Indiana at my mama house. 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.720 She like, son, I was like, mam, what you want 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.400 me to do? She like, baby, I want you to 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.280 go to school for one more year. Like I told 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.600 the post to him, I'm like, man, I'm gonna go 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:52.000 to school. 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:52.800 Just what we're doing. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.400 That was the best thing ever could have happened because 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.920 you know, I ain't saying that I could have went 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.360 to the league. You know, ain't comfort none. So it's like, 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:02.880 you know, I could have win any kind of way. 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.960 So Lord and misgan state getting that year, discipline, learning 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.560 things from coaching from you know that school, and you know, 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.920 being a professional. That took me a long way, Bron. 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.480 They grew you, Yeah that man. Listen, Bro, you know 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.720 what in all of this, nobody talks about the growth 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.959 of you, how you developing to who you are today. Bro, 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.240 you had to go through the Portland stuff to get 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.720 to a situation like Memphis and really feel like, man, 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.400 feel what I'm saying. So everybody's journey is different, Bro, 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.360 and how you get this, how you got to get there? 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.320 But you know, like in anything, man, I felt like 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.360 at the times we played, Bro, they were trying to 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.680 weed out a certain type of player. And if you 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.200 ain't have no, go in you. And if you ain't 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.440 have no this is my dream. I'm finna chasing and 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.920 I'm just I'm gonna bite down and get this. You 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.120 was out in two three years. Think about all the 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.920 real niggas thisan, Bro, I know, do nobody like that 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.080 team but Bro, one of my favorite teams is the 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:55.800 Portland team. 0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:57.120 Bro. 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.160 That was one of man and y'all. It's hard to 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.520 be bro. You couldn't come in here with all that 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.400 big fellow. What's up? Big fella talking about big fellas 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.479 like he wasn't knowing nothing. Man, you know what I'm saying? 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.879 Yeah, Lord, I love you, Bro, I love y'all. 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.200 Bro, real ship. I say this all the time. 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:17.359 Bro. 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.040 I know that wasn't commercially fun for the league, but 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.640 I don't know what that was like, but it seemed 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.200 like it was fun. It was a bunch of real 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.919 guys and stuff. Trent played in Portland earlier on Trent. 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.520 Yeah you know Trent real one real yeah man playing 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.960 in Portland. Brother that was coming into Portland. Ticket Man, 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.440 them guys brought me in. But you know, I'm awesome, 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.360 Like I am there. I learned Ship every day, so 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.920 I'm like a sponge. I'm like what I need to do, Damon, 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.960 I need to do sit like the like man, go home. Man, 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.239 I'm like ship, all right, I'm going home. But they 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.920 you know, I'm like on that wave like you know, 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:57.200 I'm like learning this. I'm growing, you know, like you said, 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.400 so man just doing that being there. I learned so 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.600 much from them guys. Man she man just another guy 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:05.880 just watching the way he played like y'all. You know that, 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.600 y'all game was kind of hybrid before you know the post. 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.600 He was already doing you and she facing up shooting 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.920 threes and picking and popping like ship like that. So 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.560 just Portland's good man. I learned a lot in Portland. 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.680 Man up man some great years, man, great years. You 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.719 got old schools, got some Yeah, I gotta dunk Donk, 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.920 you gotta show you a picture of it, nineteen seventy one. 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.280 That motherfucker almost done. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.520 Where you get it from? 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.799 Uh, they built it. They building it and I build it. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.719 You just built them that fuck ready to. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.960 You know who do that? Tim Duncan, Yeah, Dunk got 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.160 dunk that lives in the garage, Yo, shout the TV 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.440 doing it. Got dreads and ship being there doing that. 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.000 Ship I heard he got a shot, got a crazy reach. 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.880 Yeah yeah yeah. Ric Gross got the dunk stand in 0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.640 the open, locking down in Miami. 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.480 Yeah, Bross got some ship too. 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.600 He got some ship ship. Yeah. When you doing this 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:04.240 call show. 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.000 N I got me to do that, bro. That's that's 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.520 what I want to put together a zebra cardion Memphis. 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.279 All them dumb shout. 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.680 They still about those out there. Yeah, they ryan coloring 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.359 sturdy balls. They ryan all kind of ship out there, 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.480 trunk rowling and ships. I'm too facing my speakers for it. 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:31.839 I don't know that myself's forward wonder years and sh. 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.439 Yeah, y'all was gonna put up in some electrical ship. 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.160 You know what I'm saying. I just knew y'all had 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.759 adapted to electrical and gray A and all this other ship. 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.560 Let me hear your first. Let me and your top 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:51.920 top rappers brot you no order and they are Okay, 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.480 you can throw luth in there if you want. 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.319 Yeah, well you know I got my I got my 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:56.960 R and B list to listen. 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.359 I got says music whatever. 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.320 Yeah see, I listened to a lot of uh Bobby 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.360 wol Mac, you know, Tim. 0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.120 Ta something, the same thing. 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.440 You know, my old school, Especially when I'm riding in 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.640 my old schools all listen to nothing but old school. 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.560 I love it supposed to be. But man, I got 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:27.959 I gotta go with whole biggie future. Okay future, little 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.319 Wayne Wheezy, gotta put Wheezy in there. 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.560 Who makes the fifth? Who who's five on the list? 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.000 Do you go, rapper? 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.000 Do you go? R and B? I got a whole 0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.080 different arm mixed, mixed the R and B. 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.080 Just getting ready for the game. You got got you. 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:50.279 I ain't even know that ain't this was I just yes, man. 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.279 You know, a lot is a lot. You know I 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.719 got You know, I gotta put it there, man, I 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.600 gotta put t I in there, Gotta put tip in there, 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.600 you know. I you know, I fuck with tip and 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.160 I come off of that tip too, So I gotta 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:05.319 put a tip in my top five. 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.560 You forget about that young head too, But that young tip, 0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.120 that ship raised right. 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.839 That ship niggas forgetting my tip though, has a tip. 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:15.400 That's a lot. 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.560 Of Yeah, it's a lot of great artists out there too. 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.399 It's a lot of music raises too. 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:19.600 Bro. 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.399 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know that top five. 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:23.399 But that's a tough boy. 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.359 But yeah, man, I thought she was gonna be on 0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.360 some do it dial. I thought she was gonna go h. 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.000 I didn't know how he was gonna go. I thought 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.799 he's gonna go twist. I know you're gonna go shot down. 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.600 You know you're gonna go Freddy, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.840 Yeah, you know, it's a lot of a lot of 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.120 a lot of news, a lot of good music out there, man, 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:45.440 a lot of music. 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.439 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Your boy he killing 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.960 it though, money back man, man, Bro, he won them one. 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:51.239 Bro. 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.520 I ain't really shocked that on on on on like 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:55.640 his run either. 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:56.160 Yeah. 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.480 I feel like Memphis teed up to have more come 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:00.719 out of it, right what. 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.840 They got so much talent, brou and you know we 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:05.959 you know, we got the regulabel down there, so we's 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:10.120 constantly looking for talent, endless entertainment, constantly trying to you know, 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.560 keep building this brand and man, building this good music 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:13.600 and making this good music. 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.759 What's the city need down there? What myths need? 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:21.759 Some opportunities, you know, opportunities, you know, more jobs at 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.040 least role models people, you know, you know, guys to 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:26.800 get into community and tell them, you know, this is 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.480 not the dude, Yeah, you know, not all that other bullshit, 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.960 you know, just straight positive shit, you know what I mean. 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.239 Cause it's been so much negativity, so much trauma, so 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.960 much loss. It's only one way, you know, and it 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:39.279 ain't no hope you know what I mean. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.520 Yeah, yeah, I think you know. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.880 That's the fucked up thing about it. You know, seeing 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.360 the youngsters ten and nine with no hope out of 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.040 school carrying pistols and you know, got the dope sack 0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.000 on them. Young ays ain't even going to school. They 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.640 take your ass to school. Bruh, get off the block. 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:55.600 So you know. 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.720 So I learned the long time ago that when you invest, 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.640 you invest with things are down or when they on 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.440 the lower side of the of the curve. 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:04.240 You know what I'm saying. 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.319 And one of the things I see out here in 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.520 La man Or, I see in the West Coast that 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.400 they'll set up a bunch of shops for you to 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:15.239 learn to work the camera, how to edit. They got 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:16.879 a tennis shoe joint where you can get the air 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.319 Force one you can make your own shoe. I'm just 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.040 I'm just watching how other cities do it. Activate their 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.960 kids and keep their kids in a box, or not 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.080 in a box, but just locked in on something, whether 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.160 it's sports, whether it's recreation, where it's the instrument, where 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.640 it's music, whatever it is. Man, I really want to 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.520 get like when we see in chop Bro, I really 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.040 want to talk about bringing those operatives to where your 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.320 kids can actually go to go here every weekend and 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.680 make a new make a new Nike, make a new Puma, 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:46.320 make a new Adidas, you know what I'm saying. Or 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.120 make their own shit. And that's what starts out the 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.719 idea of creativity. Imagine who you saw in your neighborhood 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.319 that put it in the basket to make you go 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.920 get the ball and start dribbling that that that it's 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.600 almost like a it's almost like, I don't want to 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.399 call it duty, but it is as someone who has 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.160 created something in Minneapolis, as someone who has created something 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.319 in Memphis, has someone that has something a background in 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.319 Indiana and where we come from and all this. You know, 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.120 I know we're doing a bunch, but I really feel 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.560 like it be doing would be our responsibility to go 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.680 back and give new script because we can't. 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.439 Like you said, like like you said, they like I said, 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.719 who I've seen putting the ball in hoop? So you 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.680 got somebody come to the city and bring a different 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.040 element and showing these young kids this and that's gonna 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.120 keep them locked in. That's what I'm like you said, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:38.160 not just something just for now, something man, consistent. 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.600 You know, I mean kids on their phone. Everybody on 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.120 the phone. So let's just say we got ten kids 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.560 eight nine on them on the phone. Bro, So imagine 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.400 if I showed them how to not only tree apps, 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.840 if I showed you how to code and put stuff 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.960 on here, take stuff off. If I showed you how 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.759 to make an app. If I showed you, you know, 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.719 to shoes, you y'all, y'all just jumped the train and 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.640 took But if I showed you how to actually make 0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.839 your own shoes, you ain't even have to. I'm just 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.120 I'm just talking about a different scriptures though. The kids 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.840 bro into these little ass cities that ain't none of 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.799 that in there to where you got to have high 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.520 budget and government to be able to go to the 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.880 marror of the governor, to be able to accept, sidize 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.640 and get this. This is what we gotta do, Bro, 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.040 We gotta go sit with the governor. 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:14.239 Get him on. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.239 Hey, look all that bridgey'all. Bring here for transportation, y'all 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.359 for the roads? No, no, no, no, come over here, give 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:20.799 me this right here. Let me go over here, Bill 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.160 the z BO Center and I'm gonna have this in 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.440 that center. And then every Monday, every Saturday, every whatever, 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.160 whatever you feel the bro, that's the move. If we 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:32.760 ain't doing that, bro, the scripts are too traditional. Carrying 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:33.120 a gun. 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:34.280 You ain't going to school. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:35.279 You got the dope pack, bro. 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.239 You dumb as hell. Bro. 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.719 They got drones now. They kept telling you, Bob, I 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.640 have run up on you right now. You straight crash 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.200 our mission. So I'm just on something crash. I got 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.799 to give you another imagination. If you listen to the 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.360 music and the music made you do that, Okay, let 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.000 me give you something else to give you another script. 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.799 That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So I'm 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:53.080 on that. 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.520 Till we get together and shopping for real. Because man, 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.000 anything about helping his youth, I'm with it, man, like 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.239 TA going back to the Chicago throwing they doing basketball games, 0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.279 stop the violence, like that type of ship Like, I'm 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:05.920 all with that. 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:06.600 You know what I mean? 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.000 I know you with that. You've been doing that too, 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.080 So bring the ship together. 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.680 I'm with it. Bro. What is what's next for you? Man? Like? 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:14.799 What do you want to conquer next? 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:16.560 Man? Man, you know I got some shit going me in, 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.799 TA got some shit going got to start our little 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.320 show coming up, called out the mud Man. You know 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:26.359 what I mean, Man out the mud Man coming soon. 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:31.960 You did me and Toyalli man killing. Yeah, so you 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.040 know just that ship. I work for the team, doing 0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.799 shit in the community and doing shit for the team. 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.759 So just business man, Just trying to get out there 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.800 and learn more, man, and just keep it moving, you 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.239 know what I mean. Showing the good guys like you 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.640 and learn. You know you guys paving the way in 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.480 this media thing. You you know, Matt Stack, Jack, all 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.800 the guys. You know, all these guys are doing a 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:52.399 great job. 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:52.719 Man. 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:53.799 It's motivating. 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.200 That's what's up. Man. Well, I love your goal, man, 0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.479 and I love how you how you a visionary keeping 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.319 up with everything you're doing. Man. If you know, if 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.160 you think I can ever help anything you you with 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.239 whatever you're doing, you let me know him right here, 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.000 bro rooting for your daughter. You know what I'm saying. 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.360 Uh Now, I gotta watch your son say if you 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.520 can hit his mama, y'all's hand bends heat for your 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.520 low eyes. Get over there here, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.600 But yeah, Man, shout to the kids and everything you're doing. Bro, 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:21.560 anything you think I can. 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.799 Help you with you, bro Man, you hollers love man's love. 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.160 You know what it is, Honey, I already know Jack 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.800 Man Man seventy five year ago, you're doing today,