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Speaker 2: Man? Man? It been good, bro, been real good. My

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Speaker 2: My son he played baseball in Baltimore, So that guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that and how that you know on so crazy ticket,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. So it's like okay, damn. So I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: What year is that? That's sixteen? What's that to me?

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Speaker 2: Your They're getting traded that motherfucker. I'm like, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: And it was guy's playing how I fitted Bruh. It's

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, perfect man. Blue collar folks. Man, they

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Speaker 2: Man, them guys like you said, them guys Jared and

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Speaker 2: Big Edie John, them guys just taking on their grit

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Speaker 2: we grinders too. Like they ain't on no soft ship.

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Speaker 2: They like they want it. And that's what I like

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Speaker 2: about the young fellas. Their their talent level is it's

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Speaker 2: right there. They they're superstars in the league, Jaron, Joe bang,

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Speaker 2: and they're building a great winning team and this year

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Speaker 2: with job back, hey man, yeah, take your glasses all man,

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Speaker 2: you see the thing coming, you know is so like,

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Speaker 1: Bro I really what was it like to get your jersey?

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Speaker 2: Man? What it was like to give my jersey? Retired

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Speaker 2: man coming from a small city Indiana, man, country boy, man,

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Speaker 2: been expected to make it out. Man, It's a blessing

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonnaly lie Bro. I damned the shed a tear.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Cause come on, man, you

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Speaker 2: thinking man, won't nobody everything. There'll be a ze Bo

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Speaker 2: telling the older homes I was I'm going to the league.

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Speaker 2: I already knew what I was doing. My sophomore year, bruh,

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Speaker 1: You already knew it.

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Speaker 2: I already knew it. We're going to lead. And they

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Speaker 2: Y'all had it comfort and you ain't they you do

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Speaker 1: You gotta see it before anybody else can see it.

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Speaker 2: It's real.

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Speaker 1: Imagine coming in here telling your high school coach, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna straight to the lead. And what flicked at me?

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Speaker 1: Like what, let me get your ass out of here. Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: it was in my face. He knew it was real.

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Speaker 1: So I totally understand you. When you you gotta believe first,

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Speaker 2: Say he telling me that your freshman year.

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Speaker 1: Man, No, I win took it. Uh, you know how,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go take the sat, Go take the sat.

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Speaker 1: I come out the motherfucker and I'm just pissed, like,

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Speaker 1: So I get to the house. My man comes through,

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Speaker 1: I don't just negative. He's like, man, let's go hoop,

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Speaker 1: so go hoo. When I go, who Scotty pipping? And

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Speaker 1: there Jordan in there. So we watched George Ordan, let

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Speaker 2: So he in the corner with his legs. You can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just see me and Scottie Pippen got

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Speaker 1: He told me shit that only z no. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Zac a river man. I left that.

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Speaker 1: I went to my I went to my coach. Damnit

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Speaker 1: like this, hey man from the door man, I'm just

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Speaker 1: sit down, tall man. I just talked to this what

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Speaker 1: watch TV. I don't know if I hit him. I

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Speaker 1: And he saw my face. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So when you say you gotta believe it, that's real ship, Honey.

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Speaker 1: I'm a music fan when it came to getting ready

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man, Yeah, Man, Yeah, y'all doing it. Man,

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Speaker 2: Man? Just being down there, being involved in the city, bro,

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Speaker 2: the players don't want to go, you feel me. So

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Speaker 2: that's the difference about me, Like, and uh, the city

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Speaker 2: We worked together. He wanted to work. We did this thing, man,

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Speaker 2: and here it go, you know what I mean, God

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Speaker 2: with Gotti and uh wow, man, you know shot this

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Speaker 1: Man doing it, Bro, That's how you supposed to be too,

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Speaker 2: And Memphis so got so much talent. Bro. We got

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Speaker 1: Full of it. Man. A lot of good music come

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Speaker 1: Ja, yeah all that man, Man, that's classic music to

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Speaker 2: You know I still say yes, ma'am. No, yes, sir, yes, sir.

429
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: No.

430
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, the people get you know, people get offended

431
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: by that. You know what I mean.

432
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: That's a respect thing. That's all respect. Though, you know

433
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of people don't know that.

434
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: That's respect. You say yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.

435
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 2: You know, some people get mad. I still say it

436
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: to this day. I still open the door for people.

437
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: That's the way I was raised. You know, I had him.

438
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: I ain't had no daddy, so I had a mama,

439
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: So I might want playing that, you know what I mean.

440
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, So that's why you said seeing that

441
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: that Semiler, you know, seeing that similarities where you're coming

442
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: up from. That's why Memphis. You know what I mean.

443
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: I still work for the team and do stuff for

444
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: the grids. It's still busy in the organization and giving

445
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: back to the people of the city.

446
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: Would you ever get in an ownership Yeah, hell yeah,

447
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: I think they should. You know what I'm saying. I

448
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: think if you spent enough time with a team, you

449
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: should at least have the option. You know what I'm saying,

450
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: you should have the action to be able to come

451
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: in at a at at and not at a higher

452
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: evaluation either, because you've actually helped build this whole thing.

453
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think you should have

454
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: some understanding because I've seen what you did in the

455
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: community with helping people with bills and helping people just

456
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: get through everyday life. Man, that you know, when we

457
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: used to have to do the community stuff, that's really

458
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: what the community was. Now. It's crazy that you spoke

459
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: about going into a place where the players didn't want

460
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: to go. And some of the rougher neighborhoods, some of

461
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: the rougher neighborhoods are kind of the gems of the

462
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: city in Minneapolis. Man, when I would go over north

463
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: of Minneapolis and South Minneapolis, or over the East Saint

464
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: Paul where it was, you know, East Saint Paul, it's

465
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: like South Side of Chicago. It's all gds. But I

466
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: would go over there and do school stuff, and man,

467
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: the guys just want to send.

468
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Him talk shake your hands, the guys.

469
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 1: And I never understood, while we never did more. So

470
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: I used to actually say, you know what, I want

471
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: my schools to be these schools because I know that

472
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: these schools was getting left out. So you know, I

473
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: give Upstairs credit for what they got right, but what

474
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking on is what I know. So I

475
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: used to have to make them come over here and

476
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: do stuff on the south side, do something on the

477
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: north you know what I'm saying, Like all them schools

478
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: we talking about broad schools that got money. I say

479
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: this to say that that script is needed in every

480
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: every franchise, every sports franchise, because as you make so

481
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: much money, man, man, you forget about you know what

482
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So them programs. Man, if you was

483
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: going to put a program in Memphis, what kind of

484
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: programs you put in Memphis for young kids to thrive?

485
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: You know what I will put And we actually we're

486
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: working towards there, cause you know, we got some things

487
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: coming up. Like I was telling you earlier, me and

488
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: ta stop the violence. I want to put games together,

489
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: get these kids able to go talk to some of

490
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: these jobs and some of these owners around the city

491
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: in the summertime. Get some of these fifteen sixteen year

492
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: olds job. Let's hit up something like a job corps.

493
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: They ain't gotta be a lot where we can get

494
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: a job and make some money, have different options and

495
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: different avenues. Instead of the youngsters getting out of getting

496
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: out of school every summer and I ain't got nothing to do,

497
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: Let's get these kids something to do. You know, Let's

498
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: just give them some options to do something. Either just

499
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: work a job or we throw a camp. Every summer.

500
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: We have a couple camps where they can get some

501
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: money in they pocket where they ain't got to rob

502
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: or they ain't got to stand on the corner with

503
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: the dope sack and you know, hustling. So giving these

504
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: kids some different opportunities to have something to do in

505
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: the summertime.

506
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Some new waves scripts, right, Yeah.

507
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: That's some shit we working on.

508
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I would love to be able to do

509
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: something like that, which you would add on. You know,

510
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: we're a production team in here, and I know a

511
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of us to start to get into production, starting

512
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: to get into film, movie TVs, docs and all that.

513
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: I think the next wave of kids need to understand

514
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: how to work computers and cold and make aps. Talk

515
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: about how to actually create their own. I'm I'm when

516
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: you talk me, when you shot at me the the

517
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: Ta I dial. I want to actually build onto that,

518
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do that. But we're gonna move it.

519
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna actually do it in some cities.

520
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna identify that because you know what, it can't

521
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: just be like a weekend either. There's got to be

522
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: something that lasts to where the kid, you know, because

523
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: you know when the festival come in, we go to

524
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: the festival, well mondays and it's gone to the next city, right,

525
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: there's not the city. Man, two weeks later, we never

526
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: forgot about, you know what I'm saying. So it needs

527
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: to be something that's that's consistent. You know what I'm saying.

528
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm only saying that to say to go into I

529
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: just knew you just did your doc man talk about

530
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: what that experience was like. Was it crazy going back?

531
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: It was good man, just going back for that from

532
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: a retirement Jersey because they had I did it all.

533
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: Part of it was just all the love that the

534
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: city showed me.

535
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Bro.

536
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: It's just like, man, you know, I'm I'm gonna get

537
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: a house there. You know, I just sold my house well,

538
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm in the process of getting another house there because

539
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: that's how much I love the city. Man. And the

540
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: documentary just showed the you know, where I come from,

541
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: where I come from, my career, where I started, Portland,

542
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: my my my trials and triplations where you know, I

543
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 2: was a youngster. You know, I'm riding down MLK nineteen

544
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: with my first truck. I got all the TVs on smoking.

545
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: We It's like I'm like on Friday, when they rolled

546
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: the window down, the smoke come out. But you know,

547
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: just you know, young nigga, not knowing coming from where

548
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: you come from. So just learning and you know, just

549
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: talking about that type of shit coming from I come

550
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: from Portland, where coming to Memphis now where the whole

551
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: city is loved, you know, the whole tried state, all

552
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: the you know, the areas. So it's just showing where

553
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: my growth at and the things I've been to. Man,

554
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: where I come from. The kid in North Carolina state

555
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: birds Big DJ. Yeah what beach Man.

556
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: When I first when I first saw him do anything,

557
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: the first thing I was like, I thought that was

558
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: your son. I was like, Zach, know man, somebody came there.

559
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, says yourself. Son. Okay, I looked up. Okay,

560
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: you do you know what I'm saying. So I know

561
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: kids out help me.

562
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, big as hell.

563
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: But I was, bro, that is man.

564
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: You shure ain't your something? Bro? He I might need

565
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: to get that. I might just get a swaven. She

566
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: was going on.

567
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Man, Bro, he looked just like you, play like z

568
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: bo and it's effective in today's game. You know they

569
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: say that your style slow the game. Damn nah No.

570
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: I like the kid too, man, your thoughts on I

571
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: like it.

572
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: I like his touch too. He got a touch.

573
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: You know.

574
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: You know it's so crazy. We got his partner that

575
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: he deal with it. I know his man, Ricky from

576
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: Chicago Wall So I talked them. We talked on the

577
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: phone and everything on a three way call. And I've

578
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: been checking on him, man, you know, telling me looking

579
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: good because man, his body doesn't transfer transformed. His body.

580
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: The kid looked good, Bro, you ain't seen it look good? Yeah?

581
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Where?

582
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? He working out? He I think he's working out

583
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: back home or down there in Florida. I think I

584
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: think he might be in Miami working slim, looking gooding

585
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: somebody's camp. Yeah, he's but he gonna get somebody campt

586
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: he's too nice. And I got my boy Kenny he

587
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Loten he in Chicago. But Burns he got

588
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: a chance. But you know, the game changed, so I

589
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: got told him. I talked to DJ. Man, just focus

590
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: on your bodies, focus on getting the best shape you can.

591
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: You got the skills, you know what I mean, because

592
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: like you said, the game has changed. They don't want

593
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: all that shit.

594
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: That's over, you know, so you know, yeah, yeah, picking

595
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: and popping, yeah, popping in his feet. You know what

596
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What's your thoughts on today's game when you

597
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: watch it?

598
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: I love the game, you know. I love where the game.

599
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: I love where the skills at because yeah, because the

600
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: ship they doing now, if they was doing that with us,

601
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: he ain't got no guys taking no step back triple threes.

602
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: You know. So the game has changed. You ain't You

603
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: got Wemby. He's setting foot bro, going between your legs like.

604
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: He come on, bro, and Winby is scary. I look

605
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: at Weinby and I'm like, man, do he even know

606
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: where he can?

607
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: Like?

608
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if he invested in like a chem?

609
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Elijah won tape or if he actually went and seek

610
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: out Timmy Duncan and actually got some of that knowledge.

611
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: It's scary about him. Scary, it's scary. I gotta go

612
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: watch him play man. He excited, He exciting it. Yeah,

613
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: so he he wanted them wait till he's simplified. He

614
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: stopped doing all this dribbling, start hitting you off the

615
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: glass and just jabbing you. Yah, what made you simplify?

616
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: What?

617
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: What?

618
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: What?

619
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: What?

620
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: At what point did you start simplifying your game?

621
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: Man? As I probably, like, like, you know, probably as

622
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: I got older, because I was seeing the game change,

623
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, because even with mephis like they brought me

624
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: off the bitch probably I think, you know, Fears brought

625
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: my bitch because he wanted to play smaller.

626
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: So I see how it was progressing.

627
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: I see how things was going when you know, towards

628
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: the end of my career, you know what I mean,

629
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: how they want to open, you know, play fast. Everybody

630
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: want to adopt to how go to state play, you

631
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, everybody's seen that wave, how they

632
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: came in, so everybody kind of wanted the teams want

633
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: to play that way. But yeah, I definitely seen it

634
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: coming changes towards the end my career, you know what

635
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean, really shooting more. That's why I got to

636
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: shooting more threes, doing more face ups, and you know,

637
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: simplifying the game.

638
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: I shild made you much more hard to guard, because

639
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: then I came in thinking I was just gonna have

640
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: to bare hug and it's gonna be this ball fight

641
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: and then you win. You like, I was like, did

642
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: you banking it off the glass? Then you got the

643
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: little slow ass jab.

644
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: Listen, then you can hold the motherfucker. You know your hands,

645
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: just men, you hold me the whole time, you doing

646
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: what you want to do to me. I'm like, rep Man,

647
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: look at it. So let's say, man.

648
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: So now that we're in here, I'm gonna tell you

649
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: the secret. It's all y'all out here watching this. So

650
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: I learned very early that if you do something in

651
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: the first quarter and you do it in the fourth quarter,

652
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: that's called consistency. Yeah. So when I learned this the

653
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: first out. You probably remember this the first time I played,

654
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: when we was in Portland and you had a really

655
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: good game, I think twenty and like fifteen something. I

656
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: think he was coming off the bench or something. Next time,

657
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I came up there, you were starting, it was your

658
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: team whatever, whatever, right you were first to hit, so

659
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't never played you, so first to hit,

660
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: it was like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying.

661
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: You had a crazy touch, but it was first to hit.

662
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: You and Mellow probably to me are the most aggressive

663
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: office of players that I've ever played. That was just

664
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: just as I've been aggressive on defense whatever. So from

665
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: first to hit, that's where I got that from. Like

666
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: you was hit me first. You were selling me, getting

667
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: in ones into whatever, and I was like, damn. So

668
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: next time I played you, I made sure to hit

669
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: first and then work after that. But then I started

670
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I started like talking to some events and they was like, man, listen,

671
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: whatever you do in the first cause you got to

672
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: doing the second and third day of that. I was like, huh,

673
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: so if you bore a nigga to that bore him

674
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: in the second day, they might not. And I was like,

675
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I was said why because they saw you do it

676
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: in the first And I was like, and then they

677
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: can't call every five, so I was like, holy shit.

678
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: So did that ship too. We listen, cause man, I listened.

679
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: But listen, you can't do everything with everybody. You understand,

680
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: I know I knew you. You know what I'm saying,

681
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: I already know about I'm hearing you first, but then

682
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm fronting you. I'm making him throw it over the

683
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: top of me, and we wrestling it, guess, and they

684
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: letting us wrestle. So I'm like, oh, they're letting us wrestle, okay,

685
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: so I can get away. So I'm grabbing you. He's like,

686
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: hey man, I.

687
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Can't move, So that's what you got.

688
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: So what I did in the first I knew I

689
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: was gonna get a cow on one and two, right,

690
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: But I knew if I did it. Second, knew he

691
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: wanted to go play. Second, third, fourth, we're gonna have

692
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: a rest, right. But when we get in here, this

693
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. And that's why they You're like, damn,

694
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna call the five, and he'll be like, okay,

695
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: he ain't holding you almost even with that, so and

696
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: then I'm on and then I'm off. I didn't hold

697
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you for the whole ten seconds.

698
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: And that's why when I knew we played, y'all, I

699
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: knew to get my motherfucker rest, broh, because I knew

700
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a night. It's gonna be an the

701
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: battle with you. Man, so to the greatest ever do it.

702
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Give your flowers too, bro, cause I learned a lot

703
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: from you, seeing how you come coming up coming out

704
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: of high school, just you know, seeing D Miles. You

705
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: know that was my boy watching YouTube. So we kind

706
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: of looked up to you too, and you paid away

707
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: for us, thinking cause I was gonna come out of

708
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: high school for you. You know, I know D Miles was

709
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: coming out. We were the same class. D mind like, Bro,

710
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm gone, I just want McDonald's MVP Kentucky Derby, MVP

711
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: USA game. Everything I played in I dominated. Folks would

712
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: tell you that. De Mouse tell you that. So he like, man,

713
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: you min will come on out. I was in the

714
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: room with you know the Posting Twins. You remember the

715
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: two Twins.

716
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

717
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: It was in the hood in Indiana at my mama house.

718
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: She like, son, I was like, mam, what you want

719
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: me to do? She like, baby, I want you to

720
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: go to school for one more year. Like I told

721
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: the post to him, I'm like, man, I'm gonna go

722
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: to school.

723
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Just what we're doing.

724
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: That was the best thing ever could have happened because

725
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, I ain't saying that I could have went

726
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: to the league. You know, ain't comfort none. So it's like,

727
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: you know, I could have win any kind of way.

728
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: So Lord and misgan state getting that year, discipline, learning

729
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: things from coaching from you know that school, and you know,

730
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: being a professional. That took me a long way, Bron.

731
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: They grew you, Yeah that man. Listen, Bro, you know

732
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: what in all of this, nobody talks about the growth

733
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: of you, how you developing to who you are today. Bro,

734
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: you had to go through the Portland stuff to get

735
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: to a situation like Memphis and really feel like, man,

736
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. So everybody's journey is different, Bro,

737
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: and how you get this, how you got to get there?

738
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: But you know, like in anything, man, I felt like

739
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: at the times we played, Bro, they were trying to

740
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: weed out a certain type of player. And if you

741
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: ain't have no, go in you. And if you ain't

742
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: have no this is my dream. I'm finna chasing and

743
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna bite down and get this. You

744
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: was out in two three years. Think about all the

745
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: real niggas thisan, Bro, I know, do nobody like that

746
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: team but Bro, one of my favorite teams is the

747
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Portland team.

748
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

749
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: That was one of man and y'all. It's hard to

750
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: be bro. You couldn't come in here with all that

751
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: big fellow. What's up? Big fella talking about big fellas

752
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 1: like he wasn't knowing nothing. Man, you know what I'm saying?

753
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lord, I love you, Bro, I love y'all.

754
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Bro, real ship. I say this all the time.

755
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: Bro.

756
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I know that wasn't commercially fun for the league, but

757
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was like, but it seemed

758
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: like it was fun. It was a bunch of real

759
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: guys and stuff. Trent played in Portland earlier on Trent.

760
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah you know Trent real one real yeah man playing

761
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: in Portland. Brother that was coming into Portland. Ticket Man,

762
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: them guys brought me in. But you know, I'm awesome,

763
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: Like I am there. I learned Ship every day, so

764
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm like a sponge. I'm like what I need to do, Damon,

765
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: I need to do sit like the like man, go home. Man,

766
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: I'm like ship, all right, I'm going home. But they

767
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like on that wave like you know,

768
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm like learning this. I'm growing, you know, like you said,

769
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: so man just doing that being there. I learned so

770
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: much from them guys. Man she man just another guy

771
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: just watching the way he played like y'all. You know that,

772
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: y'all game was kind of hybrid before you know the post.

773
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: He was already doing you and she facing up shooting

774
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: threes and picking and popping like ship like that. So

775
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: just Portland's good man. I learned a lot in Portland.

776
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: Man up man some great years, man, great years. You

777
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: got old schools, got some Yeah, I gotta dunk Donk,

778
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: you gotta show you a picture of it, nineteen seventy one.

779
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: That motherfucker almost done.

780
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Where you get it from?

781
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: Uh, they built it. They building it and I build it.

782
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: You just built them that fuck ready to.

783
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: You know who do that? Tim Duncan, Yeah, Dunk got

784
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: dunk that lives in the garage, Yo, shout the TV

785
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: doing it. Got dreads and ship being there doing that.

786
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Ship I heard he got a shot, got a crazy reach.

787
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Ric Gross got the dunk stand in

788
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: the open, locking down in Miami.

789
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bross got some ship too.

790
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: He got some ship ship. Yeah. When you doing this

791
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: call show.

792
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: N I got me to do that, bro. That's that's

793
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: what I want to put together a zebra cardion Memphis.

794
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: All them dumb shout.

795
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: They still about those out there. Yeah, they ryan coloring

796
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: sturdy balls. They ryan all kind of ship out there,

797
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: trunk rowling and ships. I'm too facing my speakers for it.

798
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: I don't know that myself's forward wonder years and sh.

799
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all was gonna put up in some electrical ship.

800
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just knew y'all had

801
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: adapted to electrical and gray A and all this other ship.

802
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Let me hear your first. Let me and your top

803
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: top rappers brot you no order and they are Okay,

804
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: you can throw luth in there if you want.

805
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know I got my I got my

806
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: R and B list to listen.

807
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: I got says music whatever.

808
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I listened to a lot of uh Bobby

809
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: wol Mac, you know, Tim.

810
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Ta something, the same thing.

811
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: You know, my old school, Especially when I'm riding in

812
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: my old schools all listen to nothing but old school.

813
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: I love it supposed to be. But man, I got

814
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: I gotta go with whole biggie future. Okay future, little

815
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: Wayne Wheezy, gotta put Wheezy in there.

816
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Who makes the fifth? Who who's five on the list?

817
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Do you go, rapper?

818
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Do you go? R and B? I got a whole

819
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: different arm mixed, mixed the R and B.

820
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Just getting ready for the game. You got got you.

821
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: I ain't even know that ain't this was I just yes, man.

822
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: You know, a lot is a lot. You know I

823
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: got You know, I gotta put it there, man, I

824
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: gotta put t I in there, Gotta put tip in there,

825
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: you know. I you know, I fuck with tip and

826
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: I come off of that tip too, So I gotta

827
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: put a tip in my top five.

828
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: You forget about that young head too, But that young tip,

829
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: that ship raised right.

830
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: That ship niggas forgetting my tip though, has a tip.

831
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

832
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, it's a lot of great artists out there too.

833
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: It's a lot of music raises too.

834
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

835
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know that top five.

836
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: But that's a tough boy.

837
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I thought she was gonna be on

838
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: some do it dial. I thought she was gonna go h.

839
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know how he was gonna go. I thought

840
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna go twist. I know you're gonna go shot down.

841
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna go Freddy, you know what I'm saying.

842
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a lot of a lot of

843
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot of news, a lot of good music out there, man,

844
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: a lot of music.

845
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Your boy he killing

846
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: it though, money back man, man, Bro, he won them one.

847
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: Bro.

848
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I ain't really shocked that on on on on like

849
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: his run either.

850
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

851
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I feel like Memphis teed up to have more come

852
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: out of it, right what.

853
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: They got so much talent, brou and you know we

854
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: you know, we got the regulabel down there, so we's

855
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: constantly looking for talent, endless entertainment, constantly trying to you know,

856
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: keep building this brand and man, building this good music

857
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: and making this good music.

858
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: What's the city need down there? What myths need?

859
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: Some opportunities, you know, opportunities, you know, more jobs at

860
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: least role models people, you know, you know, guys to

861
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: get into community and tell them, you know, this is

862
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: not the dude, Yeah, you know, not all that other bullshit,

863
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, just straight positive shit, you know what I mean.

864
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: Cause it's been so much negativity, so much trauma, so

865
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: much loss. It's only one way, you know, and it

866
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: ain't no hope you know what I mean.

867
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you know.

868
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: That's the fucked up thing about it. You know, seeing

869
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: the youngsters ten and nine with no hope out of

870
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: school carrying pistols and you know, got the dope sack

871
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: on them. Young ays ain't even going to school. They

872
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: take your ass to school. Bruh, get off the block.

873
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: So you know.

874
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: So I learned the long time ago that when you invest,

875
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: you invest with things are down or when they on

876
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: the lower side of the of the curve.

877
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

878
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: And one of the things I see out here in

879
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: La man Or, I see in the West Coast that

880
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: they'll set up a bunch of shops for you to

881
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: learn to work the camera, how to edit. They got

882
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: a tennis shoe joint where you can get the air

883
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: Force one you can make your own shoe. I'm just

884
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm just watching how other cities do it. Activate their

885
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: kids and keep their kids in a box, or not

886
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: in a box, but just locked in on something, whether

887
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: it's sports, whether it's recreation, where it's the instrument, where

888
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: it's music, whatever it is. Man, I really want to

889
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: get like when we see in chop Bro, I really

890
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about bringing those operatives to where your

891
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: kids can actually go to go here every weekend and

892
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: make a new make a new Nike, make a new Puma,

893
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: make a new Adidas, you know what I'm saying. Or

894
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: make their own shit. And that's what starts out the

895
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: idea of creativity. Imagine who you saw in your neighborhood

896
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: that put it in the basket to make you go

897
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: get the ball and start dribbling that that that it's

898
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: almost like a it's almost like, I don't want to

899
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: call it duty, but it is as someone who has

900
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: created something in Minneapolis, as someone who has created something

901
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: in Memphis, has someone that has something a background in

902
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: Indiana and where we come from and all this. You know,

903
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: I know we're doing a bunch, but I really feel

904
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: like it be doing would be our responsibility to go

905
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: back and give new script because we can't.

906
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: Like you said, like like you said, they like I said,

907
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: who I've seen putting the ball in hoop? So you

908
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: got somebody come to the city and bring a different

909
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: element and showing these young kids this and that's gonna

910
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: keep them locked in. That's what I'm like you said,

911
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: not just something just for now, something man, consistent.

912
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, I mean kids on their phone. Everybody on

913
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: the phone. So let's just say we got ten kids

914
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: eight nine on them on the phone. Bro, So imagine

915
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: if I showed them how to not only tree apps,

916
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: if I showed you how to code and put stuff

917
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: on here, take stuff off. If I showed you how

918
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: to make an app. If I showed you, you know,

919
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: to shoes, you y'all, y'all just jumped the train and

920
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: took But if I showed you how to actually make

921
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: your own shoes, you ain't even have to. I'm just

922
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about a different scriptures though. The kids

923
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: bro into these little ass cities that ain't none of

924
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: that in there to where you got to have high

925
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: budget and government to be able to go to the

926
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: marror of the governor, to be able to accept, sidize

927
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: and get this. This is what we gotta do, Bro,

928
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: We gotta go sit with the governor.

929
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: Get him on.

930
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: Hey, look all that bridgey'all. Bring here for transportation, y'all

931
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: for the roads? No, no, no, no, come over here, give

932
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: me this right here. Let me go over here, Bill

933
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: the z BO Center and I'm gonna have this in

934
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: that center. And then every Monday, every Saturday, every whatever,

935
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: whatever you feel the bro, that's the move. If we

936
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: ain't doing that, bro, the scripts are too traditional. Carrying

937
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: a gun.

938
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: You ain't going to school.

939
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: You got the dope pack, bro.

940
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: You dumb as hell. Bro.

941
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: They got drones now. They kept telling you, Bob, I

942
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: have run up on you right now. You straight crash

943
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: our mission. So I'm just on something crash. I got

944
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: to give you another imagination. If you listen to the

945
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: music and the music made you do that, Okay, let

946
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: me give you something else to give you another script.

947
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So I'm

948
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: on that.

949
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: Till we get together and shopping for real. Because man,

950
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: anything about helping his youth, I'm with it, man, like

951
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: TA going back to the Chicago throwing they doing basketball games,

952
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: stop the violence, like that type of ship Like, I'm

953
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: all with that.

954
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

955
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: I know you with that. You've been doing that too,

956
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: So bring the ship together.

957
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm with it. Bro. What is what's next for you? Man? Like?

958
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: What do you want to conquer next?

959
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Man? Man, you know I got some shit going me in,

960
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: TA got some shit going got to start our little

961
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: show coming up, called out the mud Man. You know

962
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: what I mean, Man out the mud Man coming soon.

963
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: You did me and Toyalli man killing. Yeah, so you

964
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: know just that ship. I work for the team, doing

965
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: shit in the community and doing shit for the team.

966
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: So just business man, Just trying to get out there

967
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: and learn more, man, and just keep it moving, you

968
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Showing the good guys like you

969
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: and learn. You know you guys paving the way in

970
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: this media thing. You you know, Matt Stack, Jack, all

971
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: the guys. You know, all these guys are doing a

972
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: great job.

973
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: Man.

974
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: It's motivating.

975
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Man. Well, I love your goal, man,

976
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: and I love how you how you a visionary keeping

977
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: up with everything you're doing. Man. If you know, if

978
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you think I can ever help anything you you with

979
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, you let me know him right here,

980
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: bro rooting for your daughter. You know what I'm saying.

981
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Uh Now, I gotta watch your son say if you

982
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: can hit his mama, y'all's hand bends heat for your

983
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: low eyes. Get over there here, you know what I'm saying.

984
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, Man, shout to the kids and everything you're doing. Bro,

985
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: anything you think I can.

986
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: Help you with you, bro Man, you hollers love man's love.

987
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: You know what it is, Honey, I already know Jack

988
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Man Man seventy five year ago, you're doing today,