1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: What sharining my lonnie unuses? Would I have? I have? 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what the plural would be. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Would it be Sharene's Lanna units like attorneys general? I 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: think the last name is you and I. You know, 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Sharne's Lana and I sharenus Is, I mean accepted. I'm 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: literally we're gonna call you sharenus Is from now on. 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know I love it. Grant Taylor 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: in middle school coined the nickname Sharnie Weenie. I've embraced 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: what was it? What was his name? Sharie Grant Taylor? Oh, 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: are they're gonna say Brent Taylor, who's the chuttiest cop 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: in Portland who got removed from the riot team for 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: shooting too many people with grenades for no reason? Oh jesus, 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that would have been amazing, not a 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: creative like insult nickname. That right is beneath you. Yeah, 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: that person is trash. You know who is also kind 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: of well, I don't know, we'll decide if he's trash. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna like this guy too. Um, we're gonna 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: talk about a very special con artist today. A fellow 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: named not war Lal, who was India's greatest con man. 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Now I want to start this by saying, I can't 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: tell you how accurate most of this is. There are 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: very few English language sources on his life, and I 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: couldn't even find a lot of online like Hindi sources 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: that I could translate. There's very little about this guy 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: that is credible. There's a couple of like India today, 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: a couple of like broadly credible websites that have stories 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: about him on there, but like fuck, it is hard 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: to find ship about this dude that is not like 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: some weird little listical or basically there was a Bollywood 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: movie made about his life that is completely inaccurate. Hard 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: to tell what is true about this guy, but it's 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a fun story. So we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: I did the best job I could and we're going 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: to it seems like a through fee with some con artists, right, 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: like right, it's you don't know what's true. If you 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: are someone who spends this guy's case, like literally like 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: sixty straight years lying to people and conning people, it's 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to tell out what was true about 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: your life. You're gonna have very little in the way 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: of heart details. Um, but all we have about this 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: dude is fascinating and it's gonna be a fun, short 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: little story. So Mithilesh Kumar Shrivastava. Srivastava was born in 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: the village of Bangarra in a place called Bihar, India, 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: at some point in between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty five, 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: which is a pretty wide margin to not know exactly 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: when this guy was born. Um, it is one of 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: those things. He's he's he grows up in a small 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: village in India in the like more than a century 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: ago and like to this day. So there's this thing, 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: this big celebration they do every twelve years called the 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: kumb Mela. I mean to do it every four years, 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: but every twelve years it's in Allahabad. And every time 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: it's in Allahabad, it's like the largest gathering of human 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: beings for any purpose in human history. Like a hundred 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: and twenty million people came at the last Mela in 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Allahabad which I was at. Um when I was there 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: was about thirty or forty million people at a time 58 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: in intensity like it's it's incredibly it's just this unbelievably 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: massive thing. Sorry, mind dumb. What is it? What is 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: what is it for? It's it's a it's a religious celebration. 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a Hindu religious celebration. And 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: it's so many people go that every year about thirty 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: thousand or so people disappear. And when I say disappear, 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean these are people who live in villages so 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: isolated and so small that they don't have government documents 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: like that. Their only identity is as a part of 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: this village, and they get separated from their people and 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: they're just like people without like a legal life. Like 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: that still happens in India. That's why this guy. Part 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: of why this guy's like this, Like we don't have 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: like government documents about this dude's early life, right, Like 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: he's born in nineteen twelve and some or or sometime 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: in between there and some little village. We have very 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: little about his actual early life about is like government 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: identity or whatever, which is part of what enables him 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: to do the conning he does. Right, things are very 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: chaotic and India during the period where he's growing up, 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: this is like he kind of comes in his early 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: adulthood during the period where like the British government, UM 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: gives up controlling India. So like this guy. Part of 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: why he's able to get away with so much is 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: he he lives during a very chaotic time in India 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: UM and as a result, we know very little about 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: his early childhood. One version of his story states that 85 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: the inciting incident that kind of led to his break 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: from mainstream society occurred in nineteen thirty two, when he 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: was a ninth grader at Patna High School. Travastava was 88 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: not a good student, particularly when it came to mathematics. 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: His teachers noted to his parents that he was extremely intelligent, 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: which led Shrivastava's father to the conclusion that his son 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: was simply refusing to work hard. Lectures from his dad 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: turned into yelling and eventually to physical abuse. The first 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: time Shravastava's father hit him was also the last. Shravastava 94 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: fled home the very next day, eventually resurfacing in the 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: nearby city of Calcutta. This one version of his story, 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: and it is the version that paints the most sympathetic 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: picture of young Trevastava. Another version of the story states 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: that as a preteen, he realized he had the ability 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: to almost perfectly forge the signature of any person he chose. 100 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: One day, a family friend asked him to deposit some 101 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: money in a nearby bank. Sharik copied their signature and 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: later used it to withdraw a thousand rupees from their account. 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: According to this version of events, Shari's crime was found 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: out and he was exiled from his village and forced 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: to flee his home at any rate. By the time 106 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: he was in his late teens, he was a lone 107 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: and unsupported in Calcutta, So we don't know exactly how 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: he gets there. There's kind of two versions of the story. 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: One is his dad beats him and he flees. That's 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: obviously the more sympathetic. One is he steals from a 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: family friend and he gets kicked out of the village. 112 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't really know which one is true. I mean, 113 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: either one I feel like, I don't hate, like it's 114 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: not like, yeah, one is more like he's a victim, 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: but the other one he's desperate and also you know, 116 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: like who cares. Yeah, I mean it's they're both good 117 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: con artist origin stories. So uh. At that time, Calcutta 118 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: was the capital of the British raj and it was 119 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: a city defined by its almost unbelievable gap between the 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: colonial rich they're fortunate chosen Indian allies and employees, and 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: a seething mass of starving urban poor. It's not for nothing, 122 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: that is where Mother Teresa has her like her set up. 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: She's a problematic figure, but she's there because there's so 124 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: much poverty in Calcutta. Few cities in history have been 125 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: harder places for a young pubescent boy with no money 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: to survive. And yet somehow Shravastava managed. He enrolled in 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: a Bachelor in Commerce to graduate course at Calcutta University, 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: presumably after lying about his age. We don't know how 129 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: he supported himself. He had no relatives in the city, 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: but somehow he got by long enough to meet and 131 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: befriended businessman Seth keshav Ram, who became his first mark. 132 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Seth was in the market for a private tutor for 133 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: his children. Servastava knew he could do the job. He 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: just needed to convince Seth of that. So he produced 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: a series of testimonials from satisfied parents by forging signatures 136 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: and different handwriting styles to make them look like genuine 137 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: notes from actual people who actually existed. Seth was only 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: impressed by how highly recommended this young man was, and 139 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: he hired Travastova to teach his son and daughter for 140 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: thirty rupees per month. Travastava did this job for several months, 141 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: teaching this rich man's children god only knows what, because 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: he did not have much of an education himself. After 143 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: he'd been on the job, awhile Shri asked Seth for 144 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: a loan so he could purchase some books. Seth said no. 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Depending on who you believe, this was the inciting incident 146 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: that really turned Shre against all rich people. He quit 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: his job and discussed, and he set to work getting revenge. First, 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: he forged another set of fake credicials and used them 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: to get a job as the headmaster of a school 150 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: that sets kids attended. Seth was impressed. When Srivastava got hired. 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: He apologized to his former employee and hired him back 152 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: as a private tutor for much more money. Shri took 153 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the job, but he had not yet gotten his revenge. 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: At the time. In Calcutta, there was a serious shortage 155 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: of high quality cloth. Shri told Seth that he had 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: a relative who just come from Bombay with two hundred 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: bales of cloth that he wanted to sell on the 158 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: black market for the low low price of four point 159 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: five lack of rupees or four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: The cloth could be sets. A lock is like an 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Indian unit of measurement that means better a hundred thousand 162 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: or so l a k h L. There's this cloth 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: shortage and Shri is like, hey, I got my guy 164 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: coming in. He's got a bunch of this cloth. He's 165 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna sell it to you for four hundred fifty thousand rupees, 166 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: which is cheap, and you can sell the cloth back 167 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: for much more money. Being a businessman, Seth couldn't pass 168 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: up the opportunity to make some black market bucks. And 169 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: now that Shravastava had proven himself legitimate, Seth was willing 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: to trust the man with hundreds of thousands of rupees 171 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: where he had once been unwilling to trust him with hundreds, 172 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: So he agreed to the deal. Once he did, Trevastava 173 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: informed him that the situation had changed. His relative had 174 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: returned to Bombay, but if Seth, if Seth would send 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the cash to that city, he Shravastava would personally guarantee 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: the delivery of the baals to Calcutta. Seth was willing 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: to do this, but he insisted Trevastava would have to 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: go to Bombay with the money and one of Seth's 179 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: agents in order to make sure the deal with through properly. 180 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: Shri agree and he traveled to Bombay with Seth Man 181 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna quote from a write up in India 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: today here. On the journey, Shrevastava had cleverly though casually 183 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: regaled the agent with stories of Bombay's tough police force 184 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and the ruthless elements in the underworld who had no 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: compunctions about dispatching any outsider who dared to poach on 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: their preserves. Understandably nervous, the agent begged Shravastava to leave 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: him behind and take the money himself to purchase the cloth. 188 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: Shravastava agreed and departed, with the route be four hundred 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand rupees. He never returned. Instead, he arrived 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: in Patna a few days later and proudly handed his 191 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: father a hundred thousand rupees as a gift. He told 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: his father that he had become a major shareholder at 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: a big company in Calcutta. Shravastava returned to Calcutta the 194 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: same week, but Seth had heard of his arrival and 195 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: sent hired thugs to retrieve the money. Shravastava spun them 196 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: a sob story about being chased by the police and 197 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: having to abandon the money, but Seth was unconvinced. He 198 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: gave Shravastava four days in which to find the money, 199 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: failing which he threatened to have him murdered. The moment 200 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Seth left, Shravastova rushed to the police station, where he 201 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: lodged a complaint against Seth, alleging Seth had threatened his 202 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: life refusing to become his agent for black market deals. 203 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Servastava also gave the police a detailed count of Seth's 204 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: clandestine criminal deals. Steals half a million rupees from this 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: guy and then turns him into the police when he 206 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: threatens to murder him. Um so yeah, yeah, I mean 207 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: that's what Yeah, that's what he did. It's also like 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: who are who are you? Who you gonna trust? Right 209 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: like the this foreigner you know? Yeah, I mean they're both. 210 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things. This doesn't wind 211 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: up working out for him. So snitching worked at first, 212 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: because Seth and his goons get immediately arrested by the 213 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: police and taken into custody. Uh. And since Seth was 214 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: not a really nice guy, has men have no loyalty 215 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: to him, so they immediately confessed to planning a murder. 216 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: So now Seth is fucked no matter what, because he's 217 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: just been caught attempting to murder somebody, and he decides 218 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: to at least take Shri down with him, and he 219 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: tells the police that Shar had been trying to set 220 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: up an illegal black market cloth deal. So the cops 221 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: arrest Tree too, and in December eleven seven, he goes 222 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: to jail for the first time. Um, yeah, you know 223 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's how this started. Yeah, yeah, you 224 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: go to the cops, that's what happens. So he gets 225 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: sentenced to a six month imprisonment, young and at that point, 226 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: not as savvy as he would later be. Sri served 227 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: out his whole sentence. He was released and immediately committed 228 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: more fraud. We don't know the precise nature of this crime, 229 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: but given the stories it's gone so far, it doesn't 230 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: take a whole lot of imagination to guess what kind 231 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: of ship he got up to. He gets caught a 232 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: second time, almost immediately in a sentence to eight more 233 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: months of hard labor. He serves his time again and 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: he decides, after two sentences behind bars, it's time for 235 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: him to move his base of operations away from Calcutta. 236 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: They know him too well there, so he moves to 237 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Madras and he changes his name to not war Lal, 238 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: a name under which he would become one of the 239 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: most famous people in modern Indian history. Now, the Madras 240 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: police record just one crime by nut war Lal in 241 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: their files, another suspected fraud. The fact that they only 242 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: caught him once suggest that he'd gotten savvy er after 243 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: his second arrest, because if we know one thing about 244 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: not war Lala at this point in the story, it's 245 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: that he cannot stop himself from conning people. By ninety nine, 246 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: he had returned to northern India and for several years 247 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: he roams from city to city, conning businessmen out of 248 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: there also ill gotten gains. None of his subsequent grifts 249 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: were as ambitious as his staff from seft. He steals 250 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars rupee from a Khan and for Karabad 251 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: forty dollars from a khan and Asamgar. The cases are 252 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: individually smaller, but there's a ton of them. He's just 253 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: constantly scam scamming tens of thousands of rupees out of people, 254 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: and it's more than the law can keep up with. 255 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: What kind of people is he scamming? Businessman? It's it's 256 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: always like, Hey, I've got some sort of a deal. 257 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: I've got this black market deal. You give me the cash, 258 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: I'll get this thing, I'll get this study and then 259 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: he skips town. You know, that's the way this guy works. 260 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: Um and again it's the same kind of thing as 261 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Victor Lustig, where a lot of it's like, I don't 262 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: want you to go to the cops, so I'll make 263 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: sure you're agreeing to break the law first. Yeah, he 264 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: wants to compromise them so they don't. Yeah, they can 265 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: ever turn him in, So Sardar, he's he's very fast. 266 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: He's constantly skipping cities. Isn't like dozens of cities at 267 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: this point scamming people, So the cops are always a 268 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: few steps behind him, but he leaves enough of a 269 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: pattern that at least one detective becomes obsessed with him. 270 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: This guy, Sardar Hari Singh, who's the inspector of police 271 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: in a city called Luck now like just becomes very 272 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: dedicated to capturing this guy. He's probably the first person 273 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: to report on the budding con man's m O in 274 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: a concerted way. And I'm gonna quote from India today again. 275 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: His initial operations involved the swindling of goods from jewelry 276 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: stores in large department stores in the cities he visited. 277 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: He would first open a bank account in a large bank. 278 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: He would then win the confidence of the shopkeepers by 279 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: paying for his purchases by checks, which were promptly cashed. 280 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Once he had earned their trust, that Warlow would withdraw 281 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: his bank account and on the same day by large 282 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: amounts of jewelry and expensive items from the stores, which 283 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: he could sell later. He was careful, though, to limit 284 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: his purchases to a few thousand rupees so as to 285 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: combat any suspicion that might arise. He would then disappear 286 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: from the city and another page will be added to 287 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: the neat war law legend. So pretty not not super 288 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: ambitious cons here, but very smart. You know, he's it's 289 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. You establish a base line of trust, 290 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: you get them to think that your money is good, 291 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: and then you steal right. That's how it works. So 292 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: he keeps this up for half a decade, uh and 293 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen until in nineteen forty four, he is arrested 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: for more fraud, this time in a city called Gorekpor. 295 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: Now we don't know how he gets out, but this 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: arrest marks the first time that he busts himself out 297 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: of prison, and it's not going to be his last. 298 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: He's re arrested at a metabad in nineteen forty five 299 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: and released on bail this time, and then he's re 300 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: arrested in Varanasi a few weeks later in connection to 301 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: a series of forged receipts issued at a railway station. 302 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: This con represented an evolution for net war law. See. 303 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: The idea was that he would book railway wagons, posing 304 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: as a businessman who needed to transport sugar or some 305 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: other commodity. He would actually pay the train company the 306 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: salute minimum he could for the smallest amount of space 307 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: he could book in their freight section. Then he would 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: doctor the receipt that he'd given them and make it 309 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: look like he had rented much more space on the 310 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: train so that he would be able to claim that 311 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: he had a lot more sugar or whatever than he 312 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: actually had. Then he would travel ahead to the destination 313 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: city of the train and he would sell the cargo 314 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: to speculators there. So he actually books a tiny amount 315 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: of space on the train. He makes it look like 316 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: he's booked a lot. He's like, I've got all this 317 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: sugar coming in. You want to buy it? You give 318 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: me the money. Here's the slit. The train's gonna arrive 319 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: in another day. He would show them the fake receipts 320 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: is proof that he had the goods, and when they 321 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: paid him, he would take the money and run. And 322 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: when the fires arrived at the train station to pick 323 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: up their commodities, they find only a few bags of 324 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: sand and bricks. He's gotten a lot more ambitious here. 325 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: He's diversified. As all con men need to do um 326 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: and not. Marlow had a few different schemes that one 327 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: had to. He had to run a bunch of different 328 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: scams and given time to stay solving because all of 329 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: these cons require that he have upfront money in order 330 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: to make more money later. One of his scams was 331 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: to open multiple bank accounts in a city under the 332 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: name of a fake company. He would lease office space, 333 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: purchase expensive looking furniture, and hire attractive secretaries to staff it. 334 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: He would then befriend several bank managers in the city 335 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: and wine and dine them, making sure to show off 336 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: both his offices and his sexy employees. Once they trusted 337 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: him and believed his business was genuine, he would request 338 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: to be able to make a large overdraft, so like 339 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: basically like, hey, I don't have the money now, I 340 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: need you guys to give me a loan and it'll 341 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: like you've seen how successful my businesses. I'll have the 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: cash for you soon. Uh. And the bankers would always 343 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: say yes. They would allow him to withdraw huge sums 344 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: of money on credit once he had because he's he's 345 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: done business with them before he sets up accounts. He 346 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: puts money in their banks. It makes it look like 347 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it's a real business. He winds and dines them. You 348 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: get there like you give them a little and you 349 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: take a long. He has the basic amount of credibility 350 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: to get away with. And it's the same thing why 351 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Trump works, right. Trump is is like its like seven 352 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: million dollars or something right, because rich guys trust other 353 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: rich guys, and that's the way being rich works. You 354 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: don't put your own money up for risk. You get 355 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: the banks money and like, yeah, so, but he just 356 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: takes the money and runs and he abandons the city, 357 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: his employees and whatever office he'd rented in the process. 358 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: He was caught for one of these schemes in nineteen 359 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: fifty three. The Punjab National Bank is the bank that 360 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: he conned. In that instance, he was arrested, but he 361 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: escaped custody. He was later locked up in Delhi for 362 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: the same crime, but disappeared mysteriously again. Details are thin 363 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of his escapes, but it's generally accepted 364 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: that he would just bribe the ship out of all 365 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: of his guards. He continued in this vein for more 366 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: than a decade, carrying out countless, count countless cons in 367 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: more cities than most people ever visit in their lifetimes. 368 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: He was arrested again in March of nineteen fifty six 369 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: in the city of Mirut, and once the cops who 370 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: caught him realized who they had, they started reaching out 371 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: to other police agencies across India. After a few days 372 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: of phone calls, they realized the man in their charge 373 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: was wanted by no fewer than thirty five police departments 374 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: and different cities for different schemes. So this is his 375 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: first big bust. And he serves ten months in prison 376 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: in the rout before being transferred to luck Now to 377 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: begin serving time for his crimes in that city. Wait, 378 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: so ten months and then what was the rest of 379 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the sentence. I think he's got like another year or 380 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: something that he's got to do, But he doesn't do 381 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: that year, So he gets transferred to luck Now. Um, 382 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: and one of the cops started saying, the detective who 383 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with him works in luck Now and he gets 384 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: to know this guy he's been following during the time 385 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: when not Warlal is in jail there, and Sardar claims 386 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: that not war Laal immediately established himself as a kingpin 387 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: in the jail. He kept access somehow to a huge 388 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: amount of grifted cash, and he was able to hire 389 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: a special cook who made him all of his meals, 390 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: so he has his own private chef in prison. Yeah, yeah, 391 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: that's Alex. That's a solid plack, Robert. You know what 392 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: else is a solid plex? Uh? That was beautiful that 393 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: the RN x knife missile mean my heart melted. Well, 394 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: check out these products and services that probably go to 395 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: jail in India. Ah, we're back. So that Warlow's in jail. 396 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: He's a kingpin there. He's got a special cook his 397 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: He convinces his guards to give him the right to 398 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: move freely anywhere in the jail he wants to go. 399 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: Bottles of liquor were noted to appeariod appear mysteriously at 400 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: his dining table in the private cell that the guards 401 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: had issued him and his guards refer to him by 402 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: his first name because he is paying all of them 403 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: very well. Taking have access to all this grouptin money. 404 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's got a half of 405 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: his schemes involved creating a ton of bank accounts. He 406 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: has actual bank accounts for his money, but are on 407 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: the outside. He's a good scammer, that's how you do it. 408 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Taking advantage of his privileged position in the jail, that 409 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Warlow hatched a scheme to escape. In February of nineteen 410 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: fifty seven. He managed to steal an inspector's uniform and 411 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: literally walk out the front door of the jail. Guards 412 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: saluted him on the way out he disappeared, escaping the 413 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: city and somehow traveling to Allahabad, where he checked into 414 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: a hotel and then opened an account in a local 415 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: bank with a thousand rupees he'd gotten from some forgotten 416 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: con Once he had a bank account, that Warlow forged 417 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: a demand draft letter and used it to withdraw twenty 418 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: thousand rupees he'd never actually had. By the early nineteen seventies, 419 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: the list of criminal cases tied to Nat Warlole had 420 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: had risen to nearly two hundred. He was caught again 421 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: in the city of Kakanada and jailed in nineteen seventy five. 422 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: Now Warlole offered the guard keeping him locked in a 423 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: ten thousand rupees to help him escape. The guard agreed, 424 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: but when he opened the bundle of cash he'd been 425 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: given after letting that Warloal escape, he realized that only 426 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: the bills on the outside of the packet were real 427 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: and the rest were blank paper. Yeah, he's he's He's 428 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: a slick guy. In nineteen eighty, Nat Warlow was arrested 429 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: yet again in Bombay. He was jailed and immediately started 430 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: complaining that he was ill. He was taken to the 431 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: hospital where he was treated for a kidney disorder and 432 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the urethical problem. After two weeks in the hospital, he 433 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: left in night with a single police constable. Somewhere along 434 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the way he escaped again, probably via bribery. Now there 435 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: are rumors that Warlow was something of a robin Hood 436 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: figure in his native village of Bihar. There are stories 437 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: of him bestowing fortunes on poor people, and over the 438 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: years a mystique formed around him, helped by the fact 439 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: that he seemed to only conn the wealthy and powerful. Now, 440 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Warlole is said to have once hosted a feast for 441 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: everyone in his hometown of Bungara, funded it by his pillages, 442 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and then handed ten thousand rupees to each poor villager 443 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: and disappeared into the night before the cops could catch him. 444 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: It's impossible to say if this is true. Again, there's 445 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot of similar stories about like my cousin pretty 446 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: Boy Floyd, that he would while he was on the run, 447 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: wind up at some poor old ladies farmhouse and she 448 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: would feed him and put him up for the night, 449 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: and in the morning she would wake up, he'd be gone, 450 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: and there'd be like a hundred dollar bill under his 451 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: plate or something, and said that you just said pretty 452 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: boy Floyd and that was that was that was his name. Yeah, okay, 453 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: was one of the great bank robbers of the gangster 454 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: era and also related to Robert Yeah. Yeah, but you said, 455 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: it's just like my cousin pretty my grandma great grandma 456 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: that he was a cousin to. His last name was Barnes. 457 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: But um, what do you think your name is? What 458 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: do you think pretty boy Floyd calls you? I have 459 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: one good story about him, which is that when I 460 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: was in a p English and I think eleventh grade, 461 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: we were doing The Great Gatsby and so we have 462 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: like a unit on like the thirties, the gangster era, thirties, 463 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: and I mentioned that she likes asked if anyone like 464 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: knew any famous gangsters other than like al Capone, and 465 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned pretty boy Floyd. She's like, how do you 466 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: know about him? I was like, well, heast my cousin. 467 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: And she's like, really, he shot my grandpa in the 468 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: leg during a banker opery holy sh it. And I 469 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh god, I'm so sorry, and she's like, oh, no, 470 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: don't be. He's told him not to move, and my 471 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: grandpa moved, so he shot him in the leg. She 472 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: was like he deserved it. I mean it was a 473 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: bank robbery, you know, it was an insured bank. Well, 474 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: machete man, Robert, you can continue now, okay, So um yeah, again, 475 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of story is about con men and 476 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: gangsters and stuff about how how generous. There would be 477 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these robin Hood stories, and a lot 478 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: of them are true in that they did bribe poor 479 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: people because number one, it's cheap to buy bribe poor people, 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: and number two, it's smart because poor people can hide 481 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: your ass. You know, if you're gonna be going to 482 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: ground a lot, if you're gonna have the cops always 483 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: looking after you, you want little people with farms and 484 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: like slums and stuff to want to hide your ass, 485 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: you know. So again, I'm sure, now Warlald did have 486 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: some robin Hood ship. I'm sure it was also mainly 487 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: so that he didn't get caught, you know, like that's 488 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: it's generally a pretty self served symbiotic relationship. Like they 489 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: liked him because he would seem to be against the man, 490 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: and he liked them because it's really easy to bribe 491 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: poor people, Like a hundred rupees is not a ton 492 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: of money. Um, So whatever the truth of why he 493 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: was giving them cash. A lot of poor people in 494 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: India believed him a hero. A statue was even erected 495 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: in Bongara to honor him. I'm gonna quote from an 496 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: article in The Times of India Crest edition here. Chandraballa YadA, 497 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: a native of Bongara and currently working in the Ministry 498 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: of Commerce in New Delhi, is happy to learn of 499 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: the development of the statue that they're building. He was 500 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: a real hero, he says. He duped hundreds of people 501 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: for scores of rupees, but he helped the poor and 502 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: spent the entire money on them. It's a sentiment that 503 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: finds an amazing echo. It's a matter of privilege for 504 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: us that he was one of us, said sud Hasanu Kumar, 505 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: who grew up on nt war Lal stories. The legend, 506 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: if anything, has only grown. Pan Madi Devi says that 507 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: he has even helped people who have dropped nut War 508 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Law's name without really knowing him. Recalling an often told incidents, 509 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: she says, once I was traveling in a train from 510 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: Allahabad and the train police was after my life because 511 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: I was traveling in an express train while I had 512 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: a passenger train ticket. He rejected my pleas and was 513 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: adamant that he would have to find or detain me. 514 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Then I told him, don't you know I belonged to 515 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: that war law's village. Suddenly his demeanor changed and he said, 516 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: oh you hail from that war law's village, then you 517 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: can travel without a ticket, no problem. Well, so who knows? 518 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: That's like? That's that's the like this guy is is huge, 519 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: and that certain parts of India like he is. He 520 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: becomes a folk by by the seventies, he's a folk 521 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: hero um, and he has like a reputation. People respect him, 522 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: people respect him, they like him. Cops don't like him, 523 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: and cops are not happy when he gets a statue. 524 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: But people who aren't cops like him. Um. People who 525 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: aren't cops are rich like him a lot. By nineteen 526 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: seventy nine, he was famous enough to have a major 527 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Bollywood production made about his life, a movie called Mr. 528 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: Nat Warlow, and the movie bears only the vaguest resemblance 529 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: to his actual life. It was basically in a complete 530 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: work of fantasy, but it was a huge hit and 531 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: it cemented the con man's image in popular culture, and 532 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: he is still conning in nineteen seventy nine, which is 533 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: a great position to be in as a con man 534 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: um that like you're he's like a full bona fied 535 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: folk hero by this point in time. That's so funny 536 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: that the movie was made and he was still doing 537 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: it like it's like exposing it and then he's still going, yeah, 538 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: still going. After breaking out of Kakanada jail in nineteen eighty, 539 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: not Warlole traveled to a different Indian city whose name 540 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to try to pronounce, Like I 541 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: know my limits on this stuff. He adopted a new 542 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: fake name, Lakshman Narayan and started pretending to be a 543 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: businessman from Bombay. He found a new mark, a sugar dealer, 544 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: and gradually befriended him. Once they established some trust, not 545 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: Warlow put in an order for eighty two thousand rupees 546 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: worth of sugar. He asked it to be delivered to 547 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: his address in Bombay and paid a four thousand rupee 548 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: deposit for the sugar. He promised to pay the rest 549 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: upon delivery. It should be obvious at this point that 550 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: he had no intention of paying his friend back. Instead, 551 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: he traveled to Bombay and met a guy named Mohan Garnani, 552 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: president of the local sugar Merchant's Association. He somehow managed 553 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: to convince Mohan that he was a close friend of 554 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: Mohan's recently deceased uncle. Now that they were buds, nett 555 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: Warlow told Mohan, Hey, I got all this sugar for sale. 556 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: You want it? Mohan said yes, So nett Warlow sold 557 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: him the sugar and took a sixty thousand rupee advance. 558 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: When the rest of the sugar arrived, he waived the 559 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: remainder of the fee that he'd agreed upon, telling Mohan 560 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: that they were going to do more business together and 561 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: he could just adjust the extra into that. Then he 562 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: fled town and continued his conning career for four more years. Now, 563 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: if you look up net Warlow online, you'll find that 564 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: he is most famously referred to as the man who 565 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: sold the taj Mahal, Which is why I'm putting him 566 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: with listing in this because they both sold a bunch 567 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: of a bunch of like. He didn't just sell the 568 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: taj Mahal. He sold the Red Fort, which is this 569 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: massive beautiful building in Jaipur, and he sold the Indian 570 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: House of Parliament Um, he's very famous for this, and 571 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: that is I wanted that the parliament was pretty interesting 572 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: to me. But yeah, they both sold these like world wonders. Yeah, 573 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: it turns out to be a great con, and we 574 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: will talk about how they did it. But first, you 575 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: know what else is a great con? Sharine, I was 576 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: just gonna say, capitalism in general, fucking incredible con and 577 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: ad breaks. We're back. So the story of how net 578 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: Warl sold the taj Mahal. So unfortunately, for as wild 579 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: as a story as this is, there's not a whole 580 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: lot of hard details. It seems to have been. This 581 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: is a con he pulled off, a butt he sold. 582 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: We don't know how many times he sold the tosh 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: the Hall. He did it regularly. This was like a 584 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: thing that he would do. So he would he would 585 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: dress up as a government official and he would find 586 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: wealthy foreign tourists on vacation going to like see the 587 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: taj Mahal, and he would have like meals with them 588 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: and launch into conversations with them, and then he would 589 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: he would kind of do the Eiffel Tower thing, like yeah, 590 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty, but it's a bit to upkeep. It's very 591 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: expensive keeping this taj Mahal thing go on, like keeping 592 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: the red for it. It It takes so much money. We're 593 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: kind of looking to offload it. You think it's pretty right. 594 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: You look like you got some money. Do you wanna? 595 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know we we could sell this to 596 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: you if you're willing to put down a down payment 597 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: right now, like this could be yours. You can make 598 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: all of this tourism money a little bit upkeep and 599 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it will be profitable again. Um. And it just works 600 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: a bunch. Yeah, this works a bunch. Um. And he 601 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: also at some point sells the Indian House of Parliament, 602 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: and most versions of the story sell say he sells 603 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: it complete with parliamentarians. I honestly have no idea what 604 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: that can mean. Um, maybe that like, yeah, it's one 605 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: of those things. There's so many stories about this guy. 606 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: He definitely con some rich people into buying the taj 607 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Mahal all in the red Fort and some other I 608 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: don't know about the parliament thing. There's just not enough 609 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: to tails about it, or at least not that I 610 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: can find in English. I mean, you gotta respect conning 611 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: dumb rich people. It's it's it's beautiful. Yeah, that's how 612 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: you get a Bollywood movie made about Yeah. So depending 613 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: on where you read about nat War Lal, you'll either 614 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: hear that he had ten successful jail breaks. At the 615 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Firing of Things sixty in nineteen four, he was caught again, 616 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: this time because he literally bumped into the director of 617 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: police for the city of Indoor at a train station. 618 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: He was arrested and charged for three pending cases in 619 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: that city and sentenced to twenty six years in prison. 620 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: So he was supposed to be like this. The story 621 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: of this escape is he was supposed to be transferred 622 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: from luck Now to the old Delhi rail station and 623 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: there was a big crowd at the station because he's 624 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: famous and they all want to see this famous Khan 625 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: man get led away to prison. So he's also a 626 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of a sicker old man at this point, and 627 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: he asks the soldier guarding him to get a medicine 628 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: pill from like to go get like, like, I don't 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: have any money, I need you to go to the 630 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: pharmacy nearby and pick up some medicine because I'm like, 631 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm sick right now. Uh, And I'll pay you guys 632 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: back later um. And the soldier goes to get the medicine, 633 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: and a couple of cops stand there to guard him 634 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: while the soldiers gone. Um, and then that Wila asked 635 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: one of the cops to go get water for him. Um. 636 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: And then while like so eventually basically sends each of 637 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: these guys away, one after the other, and then just 638 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: like fucking runs off, goes into the crowd and escapes 639 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: and all three of the policeman It's probably he just 640 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: bribes them again. Like, none of the versions of this 641 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: escape make much sense. I think he's paying these guys off. 642 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: The talks money talks, and I think that yeah, and 643 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: the con man walks, and he walks again. He was 644 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: finally caught for the last time in the mid nineteen nineties, 645 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: and he was well into his eighties at this point. 646 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: He goes to trial and he's brought before a judge, 647 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: who clearly somewhat star struck, asks him how he convinced 648 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: so many successful people to part with their money. Now, 649 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: wil replies, your honnor, I charge a fee to teach people. 650 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: Give me a hundred rupees that I will be glad 651 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: happy to tell you this secret of how I caught him. 652 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: So the judge. The judge hands him the money and 653 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: that Alo smiles and tells him that's how you do it. 654 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, everybody likes him, you know. Yeah, 655 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if baffled that after the movie came out, 656 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: he was still able to calm people. Yeah, because the 657 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: movie didn't tell any of his real cons like oh 658 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: but but but yeah, he had something like sixty different aliases. 659 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: He's he's disguising himself and sight he will usually find 660 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: out later. I got I got by net Warlow, you know, 661 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I can't confirm 662 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: that the story with the judge is true. I found 663 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: it on a blog, but it's clearly it's a story 664 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: that I found on a couple of sketchy blogs. So 665 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: it's a story people tell about him, you know, Like, 666 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a legend at this point. He's 667 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: he's a folk hero in India. You know. He's definitely 668 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: a real guy, definitely conned to people. Hard to say 669 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: exactly what he did. He's like the ASoP. He's like 670 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the ASoP of of Indian con He escaped for the 671 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: last time in nineteen nineties six, when he was being 672 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: taken to the hospital again He was wheelchair bound at 673 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: this point, and he wound up again at the Delhi 674 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: train station, so he shouldn't have been able to escape, 675 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: but he did. And I found a contemporary India Today 676 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: article that explained in as much detail as I've been 677 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: able to find, how Warlow eighty four, who had been 678 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: brought up from Kanpoor Jail to the Jet Capitals All 679 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: India Institute of Medical Sciences for a checkup, seized his 680 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: chance when only the jail sweeper was left to guard him. 681 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: After the policeman went to deposit his wheelchair, he asked 682 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: for tea, and when the sweeper went to get a cup, 683 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: he's simply vanished. We don't know when nat Warloal died. 684 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: His brother claims nineteen ninety six. His lawyer claims two 685 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: thousand nine. He was eighty four during his last prison escape, 686 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: so he's certainly deaf. Eighty four. He doesn't get caught again, 687 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: so he dies a free man. You know, I respect 688 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: that so much. You gotta respect the guy, I mean, 689 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: old man. Yeah, and he still doesn't it still got it? 690 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I respect that. What a hero. You gotta respect that Warlow, 691 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: at least based on honestly the fact that we don't 692 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: know for sure, just enhances the legendariness. Absolutely. Yeah, that 693 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: you get two different people who should know the truth, 694 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: telling different stories. Well, Sharie, and that's the end of 695 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: our quick little tale about not Warlow. How are you feeling? 696 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the last I gotta tell 697 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: you I said this last time last time as far 698 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: as like the previous episode that we just did, but 699 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm it's very These ones were fun. You know, every 700 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: time we do the show, I'm low key terrified because 701 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound dumb. But also last time, no, 702 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: two times ago it was it was very intense time, 703 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: but this was so fun. I almost want to come 704 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: back again. Next time it's gonna be like genocide or 705 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: child molestation or child molesting genociders. Um, I will promise 706 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: you that. All right, friends and enemies follow you on 707 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: the interwebs, right, Um, well, you can follow me on 708 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter if you like. My Instagram is Shiro 709 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: Hero s h E E R O A p r 710 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: oh and then uh Twitter is shier Hero six six 711 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: persons thant give enough Shero Hero yet? 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