1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Everybody, welcome into the second hour of 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. If you want 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: to chat with us, lines are open eight hundred two 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: eight eight two. Y'all know that phone number. I kind 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: of just y'alled there by accident. Weren't realize spend spending 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: so much condition for Travis spending time in the lovely 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: southern parts of this country. And there's a lot of 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: y'alling going on. But speaking of what's going on down 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: south South as in the southern border, the immigration situation 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: right now is about to get out of control with 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: illegal migrants already crossing at very high numbers. Let's just 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: put this all into context before we get into what's 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: being done today and going forward about it. The border 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: believe Border Patrol believes they could handle without really losing 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: their ability to do the mission of border security, the 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: national security mission, the humanitarian mission. They can handle five 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: thousand apprehensions across the entirety of the US Mexico border 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: every day. The numbers already at about eight thousand apprehensions 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: a day, so well, remember five thousand isn't what they 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: would like. That is there. They're believed max capacity before 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: they have portions of the border with no agents able 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to do any apprehensions. That's where that Fentonel runs through. 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: That's where the cartels are focusing their operations. And it 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is believed that when Title forty two ends, it'll get 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: up to about eighteen thousand a day, eighteen thousand illegal 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: migrant crossings into the US, violating US federal law entering 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: US entering on US soil, by numbers that we have 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: never seen before. I mean, this will be an all 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: time This is from Biden's own DHS monu. This isn't 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: some partisan thing. It's not some a Republican member of 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Congress who's making noise about this, although they're doing that too, 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: but it's not some fringe belief on the Internet or 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. This is Biden's own DHS. Obama's former 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: DHS chief J Johnson is saying this is completely unsustainable. 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: This is going to swamp overwhelm the system, and so 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: some governors are finally willing to do something about it, 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: if nothing else, to raise the public's mindset consciousness of 39 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: this issue. Because my baseline theories. The Biden administration and 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: the Democrats don't mind a legal immigration. They actually like 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. They view it as future Democrat voters. They 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: also get to virtue signal a lot about how we're 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a nation of immigrants. Well, the nation of illegal immigrants 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: is what they mean and or what we're talking about. 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: And now we're seeing that they're going to try to 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: hide I think the flow coming into the country, and 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: so that's what they want to do. They're going to 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: make the processing once Title forty two goes away, streamlined, 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: so that people come in very quickly, are released in 50 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: the interior very quickly. They might even be transferring people 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to central hubs who are illegals to then be dispersed 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: transferred from there. I've seen the facilities that exist in 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: along the border claim like McCown. It looks like a city. 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just enormous facilities for processing immigrants. They 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: already have those set up. So the governor of Texas 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: and the governor of Florida, both of them Abbott and 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Desantists are taking action on this one. Here is Governor 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott of Texas announcing that the state of Texas 59 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: will begin to send illegal immigrants to Washington, DC by 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: charter bus to help local officials whose communities are being 61 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by hordes of illegal immigrants who are being dropped 62 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: off by the Biden administration. Texas is providing charter buses 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: to send these illegal immigrants who have been dropped off 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration to Washington, DC. We are sending 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: them to the United States Capital, where the Biden administration 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: will be able to immediately addressed the needs of the 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: people that they are allowing to come across our border. 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I like the messaging, Clay, but this is messaging because 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the people have to actually agree to get on the buses. 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: But he's getting people talking about it, so I like 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: that component. Well, there's a fear that is rapidly spreading 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: that we talked about this, Buck. I just don't understand 73 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: how the Biden administration can have reached this conclusion because 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: already the border is one of their weakest polling points 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: for not only Republicans and Independence but also Democrats, which 76 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is why, Buck, we have got senators directly issuing in 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party statements saying they disagree with this. Did 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: you see Kirsten Cinema just did it. In Arizona. You've 79 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: got a senator in New Hampshire, Hassan, who is on 80 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: the ropes potentially depending on who the nominee is going 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: to be. Nevada. We know how tight that one is 82 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: going to be. Georgia, Warnock. The poll came out from 83 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: the Hill yesterday that showed herschel Walker, if you're listening 84 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: to us right now in the state of Georgia, up 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: forty nine to forty five in that race. By the way, 86 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: Stacy Abraham's down either five or seven points in that race, 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: depending on who the governatorial nominee is going to end 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: up being. But it's not just Republicans who are pointing 89 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: out to your earlier statement that are pointing out what 90 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: a disaster this is going to be. It's a bunch 91 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: of Democratic senators and obviously a lot of those senators 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: who were up for reelection in purple states and swing 93 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: states are saying this is absolutely bonkers that they are 94 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: making this decision because you know how poorly it's going 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: to work out, and it just reinforces the incompetence of 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, particularly because they chose to have this 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: end on May twenty third, Right when there would typically 98 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: be a crest. No matter what the rules are. The 99 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: word is already spreading all throughout Latin America that this 100 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: is the time to go for the American border and 101 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: we're going to see a surge the likes of which 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: we have never seen before. Because you add in the 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: COVID issue that slowed down travel over the past couple 104 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: of years, and this is a recipe for disaster at 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the border the likes of which we've never seen. It's 106 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: not just Governor Abbot of Texas, Governor rom de Santis 107 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: of Florida also saying that they're gonna bust illegal immigrants 108 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: that are dumped in Florida by the federal government to 109 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: Biden's home state of Delaware. If Biden is dumping people, 110 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: which he has dumped people, they climented too in the morning. 111 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: They haven't done it lately, but they did it many 112 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: months ago. We now have money where we can reroute 113 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: them into sanctuary state like Delaware, and we're going to 114 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: do that again. This is about optics, but optics influence politics, 115 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and we are in a midterm election year. This will 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: absolutely not And by the way, the Governor's Abbot and 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: de Santis don't think this is going to do anything 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: to stop illegal immigrants from coming into the country. They 119 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: have to agree. It's a voluntary transfer on the buses anyway. 120 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: They're not even in custody for this. So I don't 121 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: even know how many will go, to be honest with you, Clay, 122 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: but it does get us and others at least talking 123 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: about the issue and bringing up the hypocrisy here because 124 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: we all know Nancy Pelosi's family is not going to 125 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: deal with an influx of illegal immigrants into the community 126 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and all the needs and all the tax resources and 127 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: everything that will go toward them. It's not going to 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: make a difference in the private schools that you know, 129 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: the Bidens or the Obamas or you name any Democrat 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: royalty send their children too. But I think the American 131 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: people also feel and this goes to your point about 132 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: why are Democrats senators concerned about this, right because they're 133 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: parties of them all and you know, and a bunch 134 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: of them because they realize this is a huge weakness 135 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: for them Right now politically, a lot of Americans are struggling. 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: The gas price is super high, inflation super high, economy 137 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: is not what it should be everything is more expensive, 138 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: and we've gone through this period of hyper you know, 139 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: hyper government bureaucracy telling you what you can do, where 140 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: you can go, or a mask, get a shot, do 141 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And the attitude of the federal government, 142 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration to illegal immigrants is, how can 143 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: we make this process as as not just you know, 144 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: as as easy as possible, as beneficial as possible. Let's 145 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: give them Obamacare access, Let's give them in stay tuition, 146 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's do all these things. People who are working hard 147 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: to try to pay their bills, of all backgrounds. By 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: the way, you look at different ethnicities and the polling, 149 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: you look at African Americans, Latinos, and you know, and 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody else. And illegal immigration is not popular with the 151 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: American people. Illegal immigration is not popular. Why should people 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: get away with cutting through the legal immigration line and 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: then demanding more and more additional benefits when their whole 154 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: status in this country's legal in the first place. People 155 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: recognize there's something really bothersome about this, especially when folks 156 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: are struggling to pay for the gas in their cars 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: and the food on their table. Pretend you're in the 158 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Biden White house. Buck you've got Democratic senators that are 159 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: in swing states Nevada, Georgia, New Hampshire, places where there 160 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: really could be losses, Arizona, all saying that they don't 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: support the repeal of Title forty two. What in the 162 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: world is the Biden white House thinking doing this? And 163 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: we talked about the hypocrisy associated with the Biden White 164 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: House is continuing to mandate that people wear masks on planes, 165 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: So arguing, oh, COVID policy needs to be changed because 166 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: we're not in as dangerous of a place with COVID 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: for the border, while not changing the policy for airplanes 168 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. What could they be thinking here? 169 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to contemplate, with the midterms almost 170 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: exactly seven months away from today, you are going to 171 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the summer, basically end of May, 172 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: as we poise to get into the summer, you're going 173 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: to change the law at the border such that almost 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: immediately the border, which has been mostly ignored, it's going 175 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: to be impossible to ignore this surge. I really do think. 176 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I think that even media that doesn't want to cover 177 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: it is going to have to cover it. What could 178 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: they be thinking that this makes political sense for them 179 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: at all. I really legitimately cannot even conceptualize of what 180 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: they are gaining by doing this at this time. The 181 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: zealous left that dictates I think so much of I mean, 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: look at all the talk we have now about the transagenda, 183 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: and the fight over over Disney and over the parental 184 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: rights law and Florida and all this. The hard left 185 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party is calling the shots in a 186 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: lot of ways, and the Biden administration keeps bending the 187 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: knee to them because that is their base. That's also 188 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot of where their donor money comes from. And 189 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: I think lay on this one. The only way to 190 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: stop this would be to show the political will to 191 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: uphold the rule of law to turn people back, and 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: also to do interior enforcement, which means you're going to 193 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: have to deport people who don't show up to their 194 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: hearings or don't get asylum. That think about what that 195 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: looks like to the activist identity politics left. The Biden 196 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,239 Speaker 1: administration is going to be deporting people. The Biden administration 197 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: is going to change the incentive structure so they can't 198 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: To your point, there is no upside to this, but 199 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: to them, it's the destruction of the base that they're 200 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: going to need to even hold on to pretty blue 201 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: seats in this mid term. They won't have base turnout 202 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: where they need it to be if they did what's 203 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: necessary to stop the flow. And I think they're going 204 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: to play a lot of games with hiding this. They're 205 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: going to send people, they're going to change the process 206 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: so they can claim they're adhering to the rule of law, 207 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: when really they have turned the pathway for illegals at 208 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: our southern border to a conveyor belt at high speed 209 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: as many as possible into the country. Oh, we had 210 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: a front line asylum officer do like a five minute 211 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: question and answer, and so yeah, sure they can come 212 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: into the country. That DHS is already trying to figure 213 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: out a way in the rules to do this play. 214 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: So they're gonna say they're adhering to the rule of law, 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: and then they're just gonna hope people don't pay attention 216 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: to the numbers. Have they already recognized that they're going 217 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to lose the house in the Senate and they're just 218 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: trying to get things through while they can. And then 219 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: they're just recognizing that nothing's happening the next two years 220 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: because they're not going to have the ability to control 221 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the House in the Senate, just tossing it out there 222 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: to think about. There has been this argument, well, they're 223 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: going to try to rush towards the middle. Have the 224 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: numbers gotten so bad in White House polling that instead 225 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: of rushing towards the middle in the advance of the 226 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: mid term, has the Biden White House recognized there's going 227 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: to be a red tide on slot and so their 228 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: only play is whatever we're going to try to get 229 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: done the next four years has to happen in the 230 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: next few months, and they're not even going to try 231 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: to stem that tide anymore. I think it's an interesting 232 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: point to think about, because that's the only way that 233 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: this rationalization makes any sense to me at all. I 234 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: do think there's a possibility you could have Abiden White 235 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: House that after an annihilation the midterms turns around and says, hey, 236 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: so we've done some checking on this and it's really 237 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: more like fifteen or twenty million illegals in the country, guys, 238 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: So we really got to get an amnesty here. And 239 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: I know that that sounds like a crazy position to 240 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying, wait, but the American 241 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: people aren't with them on this. A lot of Republicans 242 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: big donor money. You know. I'm just trying to get 243 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: in the mindset of what the Democrats think their move 244 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: will be here. It may just be to open the 245 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: floodgates so much that they feel like an amnesty becomes 246 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: politically inevitable because you have so many millions and millions 247 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: of people in the country illegally. Maybe that's it, or 248 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: maybe they're just like I said, recognizing they're gonna get crushed. 249 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: And this is the last six months that Biden's going 250 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: to have any power at all, and anything that they 251 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: want to get done has to get done now, and 252 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: they don't have any hope of stimming that. What are 253 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: they even going to get done? You know, maybe they 254 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: get maybe they get a tax increase, maybe they get 255 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: part of build back better, they get the border open 256 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: back up. It's an intriguing question. And if they are 257 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: making that calculus, then they're just throwing all these guys 258 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: in swing states like New Hampshire, Arizona, Georgia. They're just 259 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: throwing them to the wolves and saying, hey, we're not 260 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: going to be able to stop the tide anyway. Let's 261 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: try to get done what we can. Just just think 262 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: about that a little bit because it doesn't make logical sense. 263 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Got a lot of opportunity right there to solve some 264 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: issues for many of you who are dealing with pain 265 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: in your life. 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We'll walk back 284 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: in play Travis Buck Sexton show Buck. I wanted to 285 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: hit again. I mentioned it in our discussion about title 286 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: forty two. Obviously, right now we're sitting at a fifty 287 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: fifty centate. There were seven months out, but some of 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: these races are coming into full view and herschel Walker 289 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: has opened up a four point lead on the Reverend 290 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock in the state of Georgia. And also we've 291 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: got Stacy Abrams, who we should have mentioned this earlier 292 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: in the week, but I wanted to hit this. Buck. 293 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I know you saw this because we talked about it 294 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: off air. Stacy Abrams four years ago, when she ran 295 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: for governor of Georgia, had a net worth of one 296 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. She now as she runs for governor again, 297 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: has suddenly got a net worth of three point one 298 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: million dollars. Now, I'm a capitalist, I believe you should 299 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: be able to make as much money as possible based 300 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: on your talents. But what Stacy Abrams did was sell 301 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: her popularity that she gained by refusing to concede the 302 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: election in Georgia and became a multi millionaire, not based 303 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: on creating a new business, not based on building something 304 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: that didn't exist before, just by selling access that she 305 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: gained from her political career. So question for you, Buck here, 306 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: is Stacy abrams political career over if she loses again 307 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: as the governor of Georgia or will they come up 308 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: with another excuse and continue to make her the patron 309 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: saint of the Democratic Party? Clay, if she loses again 310 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: it's because they cheated and stole it from her again. 311 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: This is I think her speaking fees only go up instead, 312 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: it will instead of being the one time fake governor, 313 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: should be like I have been the fake governor of 314 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Georgia for how many years now? I mean, I do 315 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: think that that's what's gonna end up happening here. If 316 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: you question the legitimacy of all this, oh, it's the 317 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: assault upon our democracy. Just know that Stacy Abrams never 318 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: conceded and became one of the faces of the Democratic 319 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Party and became a multi millionaire in the process. She 320 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: needs to lose again. Hillary basically didn't concede. For a while, 321 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: we'll get back into this Hillsdale College has been making 322 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: a whole lot of a smarter and veteran form for 323 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: a long time. Whether or not you ever visit their 324 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: Michigan campus doesn't matter. This college took the opportunity with 325 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: video streaming technology to make a lot of their learning 326 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: and teaching available online. 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We are going to spend some time now 341 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: updating you with the latest from the war in Ukraine. 342 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: How is this going, What is the reality of the 343 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Russian pullback from around Kiev? Is this just regrouping for 344 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: another round of assault on the capitol city there? How's 345 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: the Biden administration handling all of this. We're joined out 346 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: by Dan Hoffman. He's a former CIA station chief. Dan, 347 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. Yeah, thanks a lot 348 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: for having me on the program. Let's just start with 349 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: your your thirty thousand foot view of where is putin 350 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: visa vie, where he expected to be at this stage, 351 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: and how would you assess the Ukrainian resistance is holding 352 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: up against the Russian onslaught. Yeah, so we've just gotten 353 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: into the seventh week of this war, which Vladimir Putin 354 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: called the Special Military Operation when he launched it. I 355 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: think Vladimir Putin expected to defeat Ukraine quickly, decapitate the 356 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: government in Kiev and install his own puppet regime. Well, 357 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: thanks to those brave Ukrainian freedom fighters, that's not the 358 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: way it turned out. President Zelenski mobilized the West, which 359 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: has supported Ukraine with not enough but some military assistance 360 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: that is helping Ukraine stay in the fight. But this 361 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: is all about those brave Ukrainians fighting for freedom and 362 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: liberty and democracy against a ruthless enemy. And this is where, 363 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, the geopolitical fault line is right now between 364 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: democracy and dictatorship. It's in Ukraine. You know, we fortified 365 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: our support to NATO members. That's part of the Biden 366 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: administration's three pronged strategy, which also includes economic sanctions against 367 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: Russia and military assistance to Ukraine. But Ukraine, that's where 368 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the fighting is. And there's no country has done more 369 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: than Ukraine has to defend the turn and counter Russia, 370 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: which is what NATO was established to do in the 371 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: first place. But the big concern for me was testimony 372 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: yesterday from General Millie who said he thinks this conflict 373 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: might last year's I think he's right. If we're lucky, 374 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: if this is where the Biden administration continues to go 375 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: in terms of their support Ukraine. But we don't have years. 376 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: How many more atrocities do we want to witness on 377 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: Ukrainian soil? How many more cities like Bucha or maternity 378 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: wards like the one that the Russians bombed in Mariopol. 379 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: How many times do we want to see that there's 380 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: a moral and ethical components to this. We need to 381 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: up our empty and supporting Ukrainians so we can end 382 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: this faster, not allow it to continue. On what of it? Dan, 383 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show. What about leaving Ukraine 384 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and going to Russia? I know you've spent a lot 385 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: of time analyzing the situation in Russia. Reports are that 386 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's approval ratings, to the extent that you can 387 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: rely upon anything in Russia, have actually increased during this war. 388 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Do you buy that? How much internal political pressure do 389 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you think is on Putin inside of Russia? Yeah? For 390 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: those those polls are notoriously inaccurate, because if you ask 391 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: somebody what they think of the war, it's either I 392 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: love the war, not a war, special military operation, or 393 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: they're going to jail if they're lucky. So I don't 394 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't really think that that that that really tells 395 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: us a whole lot. But I also don't think Vladimir 396 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Putin is under any threat from the Russian population writ large. 397 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean he's repressing them pretty seriously. They're not allowed 398 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: to protest. There's no free media in Russia, and the 399 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: only ones who could potentially cause Putin any trouble. Are 400 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: his own inner circle if they decide that they just 401 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: don't want to take the orders from the KGB guy 402 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: in the Kremlin anymore to inflict these atrocities on Ukrainian citizens. 403 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Maybe not for that reason, but because they want to 404 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: send their kids to school in the West and they 405 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: want to continue, you to steal whatever money they can 406 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: from Russia's export of hydrocarbons and other natural resources. Maybe 407 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: that will motivate them, But that's kind of you know, 408 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: a replay of the failed KGB coup against Gorbachev has 409 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: to be lurking in Putin's mind, and so he's going 410 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: to do everything he can to prevent that from happening. 411 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Dan Hoffman, former CIA station chief. Dan, 412 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: what do you think Putin is trying to get at here? 413 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Meaning what would be an end state where he'd be 414 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: willing to stop stop the onslaught in Ukraine? Is it 415 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: just the East and the South and the land bridge 416 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: between them in Ukraine? How do you see this coming 417 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: to a conclusion. Yeah, so, I think that's an incredibly 418 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: insightful and important question that I'm sure that the bind administration. 419 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: Keith members of the administration are asking our intelligence community 420 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: right now, what are Vladimir Putin's plans and intentions. My 421 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: reading of this is that Vladimir Putin has gone so 422 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: are U and committed such atrocities against Ukrainian citizens, which 423 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: are brave U variant, trepid. Journalists from Fox News where 424 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: I work and other networks have recorded, Thank goodness. UM, 425 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: there's so much of that that I just think Vladimir 426 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: Putin is in this thing. He's got a win, and 427 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: he needs an immediate win before May nine, which is, 428 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, of course, a big day in Russia, the 429 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: day they celebrate the victory over over Nazi Germany, and 430 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: he needs to show some success. And whatever he can show, 431 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: he'll he'll He'll add a lot of you know, Russian 432 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: propaganda to that. But I think longer term, you know, 433 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Russia withdrew twenty battalion groups back to BAYLORUS to resupply 434 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: and refit them, and he's sending mercenaries from Syria, the 435 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: Wagner Group and Chechens into into Ukraine. I just feel 436 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: like he still wants keep I don't know that his 437 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: his ultimate goal has not changed. He definitely wants to 438 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: fortify the position in the east. He wants to complete 439 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: land Bridge all the way to Crimea. He wants Odessa 440 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: and the besieged Black Sea city of Mariopol. But I 441 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: don't think he's given up on Kiev, and that's got 442 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: to be the concern we haven't, you know, we need 443 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: to win this, you know, and right now I think 444 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: we're kind of allowing Ukraine to stay in the fight 445 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: and not lose it. Dan, they had been battling in 446 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: eastern Ukraine since twenty fourteen, as you reference, This battle 447 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: now could go on for years. How long is the 448 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: United States, let's be frank, going to care that much 449 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: if we end up in some sort of really aggressive 450 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: and ugly stalemate. Already you can see Ukraine slowly moving 451 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: outside of the national news cycle in the United States. 452 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: How long are people going to remain committed to paying 453 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: attention to this conflict and what is that impact in 454 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: terms of the political pressure that the attention can bring 455 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: to bear? Well, I think that's over to the bind administration. 456 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, the President needs to get up as bully 457 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: Pulp and explained to us why Ukraine matters, why defending 458 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: Ukraine's independence matters, and you know right now, President Zelenski 459 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: has kind of been doing that job for everyone in 460 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: the West. He's the one who is so eloquently, you know, 461 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: so eloquently led spoken about defending liberty and freedom and democracy, 462 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: the things that we hold near and dear. He's the 463 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: one who awakened the West out of this poll post 464 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Cold War slumber that we were in. I think that, 465 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, the Ukrainians are sacrificing right now with their lives, 466 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: and it's like they are ready to go until the 467 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: very last civilian, forget about the last you know, of 468 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: their soldiers. And I think we've got to continue to 469 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: support them. And can I just ask, because you've said that, 470 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I just want to know in terms of doing more. Clearly, 471 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: the bidenministration is giving some weapons. What is it just 472 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: a volume issue? Are there some weapons or some interventions 473 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: that you think would be a game changer on the battlefield? 474 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: What is more? Yeah? So I think they need more javelins, 475 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: they need more stingers. They receive some T seventy two 476 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: tanks from the Czech Republic. They need more of those. 477 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: They need more drones. We should have given a MiGs 478 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: and we still should do that. They need air defense. 479 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: The S three hundred systems, those are still there, they're 480 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: in Slovakia. Slovakia wants something and you know, to take 481 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: the place of those S three hundreds, we need to 482 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: do that as well. I mean, there is a These 483 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: are massive war crimes on Ukrainian civilians, and we got 484 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: to do something to stop it because that's the right 485 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: thing to do morally and ethically. But also we can't 486 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: let Vladimir putinly win. We can't reward his aggression. That 487 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: puts those NATO member states, especially on Russia's board, especially 488 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: the Baltic States among others, at grave risk. And that's 489 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: one of a few of among many reasons I think 490 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: why this matters. But if American citizens are wondering why matters, well, 491 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: then there's a failure of communication there on the part 492 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: of the bind administration to explain it properly. Good stuff, 493 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Dan Hoffman, former CIA station chief in Moscow. We appreciate 494 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: your time. Help talk to you again soon. Sounds great. 495 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Take care of everybody, all right. When we come back, 496 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: we'll take some of your calls. We'll dive into your 497 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: reactions of the first couple hours of the program. 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Thanks to their patented dynamic variable 520 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: one bar that alone will make your back very very happy. 521 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Sign up today at x chair Clay and Buck dot com. 522 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to Barry in Tulsa, Oklahoma to start off 523 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: the calls today. First call to day Barry, what you 524 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: got for us? Play and Buck, thank you for having 525 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: me on. My question is how many what percentage of 526 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: the people that are coming across our border intend US harm. 527 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Let's say it's only one percent of the people that 528 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: are coming acros the border intended US harm. We just 529 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: let thirty thousand potential terrorists across our border. Let's say 530 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: it's only one half of one percent. That's fifteen thousand 531 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: terrorists in the past two years. That is a fear 532 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: that somebody would use our lack of security at the 533 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: border to come in across the southern border. I would 534 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: say the issues in general with the border are not 535 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: just crime related, right, but yes, there are substantial numbers 536 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: of people that come across the border that have criminal 537 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: histories that then commit crimes in the United States. We 538 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: know that this happens on a somewhat regular basis. The 539 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: more people that come across the border. Look, let's be honest, 540 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, Buck, as you well know, 541 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: are young men. Right, there are a lot of young 542 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: men who are crossing the border, and statistically who commits 543 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: almost all the crime all over the world, young men? Right. 544 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just what the data reflex. But 545 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: I think the bigger issue than to me worrying about 546 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: there being some sort of terrorist influx across the southern border, 547 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: which certainly could be an issue, is just we can't 548 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: have an open southern border, regardless of the intentions of 549 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: anyone coming across. This is it's a violation of sovereignty. 550 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: It's lawlessness. There's additional lawlessness that comes with that illegality. 551 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Document fraud, fake social security cards, people being paid off 552 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: the books, very little of which is actually treated like 553 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: violations of law. There's almost a separate category of law 554 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: is that is applied to illegal aliens in the United 555 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: States now, because there's so many things that they will 556 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: do that are a violation of law as a function 557 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: of being here illegally in the first place. And like 558 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I said, the document fraud, forging signatures on things using 559 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: people social security numbers, fake social security numbers, etc. Obviously 560 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: not not filing you know, taxes. There's a whole range 561 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: of things that everybody else who's here legally is required 562 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: to do by the government that they're not. And then 563 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: also on the lawlessness side, when you have so many 564 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: people overwhelming the system at the border. And what I 565 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: mean overwhelming, I mean that there are places where there 566 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: are no border patrol agents for hours at a time. 567 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: You could drive and they do. Sometimes you know, a 568 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: truck full of fentil right through a gaping hole and 569 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: they have lookouts folks, they have, they have people that 570 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: this is all they do. The cartels are very sophisticated 571 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: in this. I've been with Texas National Guard when they 572 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: had their night vision goggles out watching as At one 573 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: part of the Rio Grande, you had migrants floating across 574 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: in rafts, women and children. People are gonna need help 575 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: right away. Border patrol flocks to them, tries to make 576 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: sure that they because of course we don't. We want 577 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: to make sure there's not a kid who's dehydrated and 578 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: you know at risk. I mean, they're gonna take kids 579 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: to the hospital, They're gonna check on the women, make 580 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: sure that everyone's okay and safe. And then a mile 581 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: down the Rio Grande, guess what they're doing, running faster 582 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: boats right to pick up trucks waiting to meet them 583 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: on the other side, knowing there's no border patrol agent 584 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: anywhere in the vicinity, and they take that fentonel into 585 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: the country. And you have over one hundred thousand people 586 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: dying of overdoses last year in this country, mostly opioids, 587 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: mostly fentanyl, and it is mostly coming across the US 588 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Mexico border. So I mean, those are just some of 589 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the issues. Never mind also the drain on the taxpayer dollars. 590 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: People are not supposed to be here, who are not, 591 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, paying taxes, who are violating all I mean, 592 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: you go down the list of things. It just erodes 593 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: rule of law, roads sovereignty. It also erodes the value 594 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: of citizenship and playing the game the right way, I mean, 595 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: doing things the right way. For all the legal immigrants 596 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: who come into this country, I mean, what are they 597 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: supposed to feel like? I spent years and thousands of 598 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: dollars on lawyers in many cases so that other people 599 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: could just show up and say, yeah, I'm claiming asylum. 600 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: Here's what the cartel told me to say. That's what 601 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: actually happens. Clay Bill in Louisville, Kentucky. By the way, Louisville, 602 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: another city that we are number one in. We appreciate 603 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: everybody listening, you know these cities, but I get I 604 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: get heat from from some of my family members were like, 605 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: why does Clay know all the number one And I'm like, 606 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: I'll learn them too, I'll do my best. Let me 607 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: let me just it's a good point. Let me give 608 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: credit out there. Sacramento, San Diego, Salt Lake City, UH, Phoenix, Austin, No, Houston, Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. 609 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: I know there's rivalries all over the state of Texas, Houston, Birmingham, Birmingham, Louisville, Memphis, Raleigh, Milwaukee. 610 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: And we just had a new one that we went 611 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: number one in that I forgot. Do you remember what 612 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the new one was? Oh, but that's a that's the 613 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: track it down. That's pretty good. Off the top of 614 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: the head. No, those are the ten. But I think 615 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: we just had a couple of new ones we've gone 616 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: number one in. So I appreciate everybody listening, including everyone 617 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: listening right now in the great state of Kentucky Louisville 618 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: with our friend Bill Bill. What you got for us? Hey, guys, 619 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: thanks very much. I just wanted to give you a 620 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: theory on what the end game might be for the 621 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Democrats here and opening the southern border. A lot of 622 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: us out here feel like sometimes this summer the Democrats 623 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: are going to try and extend voting rights to all 624 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: of these illegals. They're going to try and at least 625 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: mitigate their disaster coming in the mid terms by getting 626 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: more voters into the system. States and cities are already 627 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: doing this. This is something to really watch out for. 628 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the fear because certainly when we saw New 629 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: York City Buck your hometown for local elections, they have 630 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: said you don't have to be a citizen. That is 631 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: going to be challenged in the court. You cannot do 632 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: that for a federal election. Cannot do it right now. 633 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that somewhere down the line there might not 634 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: be a discussion about that. I understand the fear. It 635 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: couldn't happen right now. By the way, the Las Vegas, 636 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: other city that we just went number one in, we 637 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And like I said, early teas Monday, New City, 638 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: big market, you're gonna be able to listen to Clay 639 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: and Buck every day for three hours. We'll tell you 640 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: what that is. On Monday. In the meantime, got a 641 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: great guest coming for you. Eric Schmidt, Attorney General of Missouri, 642 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: will be on with us in the third hour, talk 643 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: about some of these issues and more on Clay and 644 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: Buck