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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Sunday, February twenty second, and

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Speaker 1: I sure as hell hope you are not heading to

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Speaker 1: to some really disturbing news. The Trump administration, blaming the shutdown,

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Speaker 1: has now made a move that could potentially cause chaos

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Speaker 1: at airports. And with that, welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ Robes. I hated to even give you

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Speaker 1: this news when you woke up this morning, but overnight

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Speaker 1: we did get work. TSA pre check is being suspended

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Speaker 1: as of this morning.

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Speaker 2: You said it was going to be potentially disruptive.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take that a.

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Speaker 2: Step further and say it's almost assuredly going to be

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Speaker 2: chaos at the airports, because yes, they have shut down

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Speaker 2: temporarily TSA pre check, but also global entry. So if

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Speaker 2: you're coming into the United States, say you went off

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Speaker 2: on a European vacation this week, it's winter break for

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Speaker 2: a lot of students, you're coming back in. You think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna just breeze through global entry. Nope, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: With the rest of US, and most Americans, though listening roades.

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Speaker 1: Global entry is fine, but you got twenty million plus Americans.

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Speaker 1: This program is for folks who fly regularly, and you

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Speaker 1: want to zip through that frickin' line. Well, all you

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Speaker 1: twenty plus million who are part of TSA PreCheck are

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, all of you non frequent travelers who

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Speaker 1: million people in the line. That's for you. Okay, Robes,

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Speaker 1: how's this gonna go?

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Speaker 2: Everyone's going to be upset. And you make a really

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Speaker 2: good point. It's not just people who are used to

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Speaker 2: to take their laptops out, and you just know you

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Speaker 2: plan your time when you head to the airport based

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Speaker 3: You know you have TSA PreCheck.

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Speaker 2: You know you can erase at least thirty minutes off

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Speaker 2: of your prep time, give or take. But now all

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Speaker 2: you folks who know you're going to be waiting in

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Speaker 2: that line, consider that line doubled at this point at least,

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Speaker 2: So now everybody is going to have to expect really

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Speaker 2: long lines to get through security. I'm just saying, and

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Speaker 2: that is a nightmare for everybody.

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Speaker 1: But the other nightmare part of the robes, we didn't

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Speaker 1: get a heads up. It's Sunday. Everybody's waking up the

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Speaker 1: first time they find out about this is some folks

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Speaker 1: are going to be the sound of our voices. This

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Speaker 1: was put out late yesterday. It's thrown everybody off and

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Speaker 1: might even cancel some unnecessary travel if we had known

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. You know what airport I'm thinking of? Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: You know, christ.

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Speaker 2: Crazy Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson International Airport is. And I am

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Speaker 2: Those lines that Atlanta Hartsfield are still horrifically long. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they make the announcement yesterday. This is a

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Speaker 1: time to make any type of travel adjustments. Yes, Global

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Speaker 1: Now they say, Ropes, they're having to do this because

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Speaker 1: of the shutdown. Now, we were told, or under the

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Speaker 1: impression most of us, that this would be not as impactful,

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Speaker 1: the wider population, because this was targeted and specific had

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Speaker 1: to do with DHS funding. Specifically DHS funding that Democrats

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Speaker 1: But here we are, we're still fighting over DHS and

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Speaker 1: now there is a partial shutdown started on February fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: Now robes the reason we thought this was going to

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to impact, unfortunately, some of these workers

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Speaker 1: This Now Robes is being viewed as everyone as a tactic,

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Speaker 1: I'm not being cynical. I think this is fair Robes.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at this to go, why the hell

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent the American people, We, the American people,

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Speaker 2: the American travelers are political pawns in this game of

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Speaker 4: They are forcing almost our.

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Speaker 2: Emotions into the narrative to try and convince lawmakers to cave.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Because if you get enough pissed off constituents writing your

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Speaker 2: bs you are affecting my business, my ability. So many people, yes,

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Speaker 2: travel for fun and pleasure, and that's annoying enough, but

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Speaker 2: when you're a business traveler, as you and I were

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Speaker 3: I was in an.

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Speaker 2: Airport and so were you, I believe probably twice a week,

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Speaker 2: it is so impactful. If you now add hours and

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Speaker 3: Do your job.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention the PORTSA workers who are working without

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Speaker 1: Everybody's pissed, so so Robes, that was one of my

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Speaker 1: first You and I traveled quite a bit during the shutdown,

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Speaker 1: the last one forty three days, right the records shutdown.

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Speaker 1: It was tended TSA. It was they went a month

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Speaker 1: but Robes, they were calling out sick, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks were not because I'm making a stand. They

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Speaker 1: were trying to make money somewhere else, right, they were

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Speaker 1: trying to do These folks were on edge. So what

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Speaker 2: I actually cannot even imagine the scenes at airports this

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Speaker 2: I think especially this morning, because people have been taken

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Speaker 1: I don't ask you that I never heard.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you if I missed the

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Speaker 2: why because more TSA workers are calling out sick because

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Speaker 2: through quicker. I don't understand the explanation behind why they

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Speaker 2: don't have the people to to to actually process applications. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can maybe get my head around that. But at

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Speaker 4: Why then could you why would you need to not

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Speaker 1: Operating because quote, we are prioritizing the general traveling population.

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Speaker 1: That is the word from Christinome saying they need to

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Speaker 1: make this move because they're prioritize their folks. Now, of

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Speaker 1: they're doing this. Now we're a week, right, We're a

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Speaker 1: week into this shutdown, this partial shutdown. This is the

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Speaker 1: statement from Homeland Security. Quote. Shutdowns have serious real world consequences,

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Speaker 1: This is this is robes, this is base, this is

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Speaker 1: very few things that the government does that we can

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Speaker 1: One of those ways is what happens to us at

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Speaker 1: the airport. And you're telling me this thing, this thing

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Speaker 1: want in DC, Roges, this is anger now.

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Speaker 4: Harder on us, so you can get what you want

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Speaker 2: And yet the first line is we're prioritizing the general

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Speaker 1: And they have information that we don't have that suggests

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Speaker 1: all this, Nitwitz, I should say, nit Wits, I want

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Speaker 1: at least the committee that oversees Homeland Security, they put

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Speaker 1: here on Amy and teacher, what exactly is a nitwit?

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Speaker 1: So we should bring that back. It seems almost kid

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Speaker 2: It seems it seems like an insult from nineteen twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: It's like something that people would say in the Gilded Age.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it doesn't seem like a common modern way

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Speaker 1: Rose. Of course, the way we've been insulting, I say we,

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Speaker 1: but politicians even have been insulting each other lately. Nitwit

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Speaker 1: seemed like a relief to have that one. But nitwit

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Speaker 1: is the word being used to talk about some of

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Speaker 1: the decisions being made by the Trump administration now suspending

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Speaker 1: the TSA pre check program robes. I believe most people

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Speaker 1: are familiar with this. But yes, you sign up for it.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done it in a long time. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: how long it takes, but it's not that long. They

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Speaker 1: do a background check on your or whatever. You get

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Speaker 1: this TSA pre check number, And now when you go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the big dealers.

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Speaker 2: You get fingerprinted, so you go through a series of

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Speaker 2: By Oh, it's unbelievable when you put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Benny Thompson, we talked about there is on the committee.

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Speaker 1: On purpose? Who's gonna get blamed for that? Travelers are not.

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Speaker 3: Situation, that is a big, big, big bet.

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Speaker 2: If the Republicans, if Christy Nome, if the administration did

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Speaker 1: This will get a deal done? How long you give it?

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Speaker 2: Who I hadn't thought about that, babe, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: No DSA pre check, no global injury. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Is this not crazy? Folks are going to go through

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Speaker 1: Ice has to be reformed. All the what we watched

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Speaker 2: When you think about it like that, it really simplifies things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is great, and these are this is their

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Speaker 1: And the most this is the most effed up part.

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Speaker 1: All this, we're doing, all this, they're fighting over right.

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Speaker 2: You know who's still getting the check, Every single congressman

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Speaker 1: That is true, every Ice agent, ladies and gentlemen. This

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Speaker 3: You've got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 1: Rose, no Ice agent, no ICE operation is being impacted

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Speaker 1: I'm hot, folks. Good luck today. Look we are our tone.

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Speaker 1: Probably we are hot about this one. And we don't

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Speaker 4: Thank god, we just finished it.

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Speaker 2: Like my twenty three year old, I convinced her to

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Speaker 2: Rather, I just thought about that I was like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: That was dumb with your mom to think that maybe

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