1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: This is America's Voice Live and Welcome to America's Voice Live. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: I'm Steve Gurrik, the pulse of the people. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 3: We need somebody that's going ahead of People's. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 4: Voice, the truth the mainstream won't touch. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: This guy is by definition a global and the stories 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: that matter. Rabs On Ben burkwob. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: Right up, Miss Hill, I've got a cartel. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: I see m I see him, I see. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Him live breaking news right now here in real America's 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Voice Filter. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: We're here to take a stand for God and country. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Let's feel goodness. America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: America's Voice Live. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm seen Grady is Thursday, the twenty seventh of November, 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: in the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Thank 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: you for joining us on today's special Thanksgiving edition here 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: on America's Voice Live. We've got a great show planned 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: for you today. So let's jump right in, shall we? 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: You ready to go? Because I am. We kick off 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: today's Thanksgiving special by first and foremost wishing all of 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: our viewers you a very happy Thanksgiving and a bit 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: of a history lesson too. All right, as we surely remember, 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: the story starts out with the arrival of the Pilgrims, 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: who sailed in the Mayflower to escape from religious persecution 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: and found refuge and friendship with many of the local natives. Furthermore, 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: after a bountiful harvest season, both groups got together and 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: shared in a festivity where each person brought something to 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the table for everyone to indulge in, or what is 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: commonly known as the first Thanksgiving, a sign of good 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: faith and just giving a moment of thanks for a 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: lasting friendship. Here me to discuss is the executive director 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: of the Providence Forum, doctor Jerry Newcomb. Doctor, thank you 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: for being here. 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: Thank you, and happy Thanksgiving. 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: Steve, Happy Thanksgiving to you, my friend. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Look, it's a time for family, for friends, for faith, 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: which those that came to the shores early in the 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: New World, they carried faith of several different kinds, but 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: that was all part of the combination when they got 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: together at that first Thanksgiving out for. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 6: Us, would you sure well. The Pilgrims were basically a 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 6: group of Christians that were an individual congregation in mid 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 6: England who they formed in sixteen oh six or thereabouts. 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: They made a covenant as they became a congregation, but 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 6: they received so much persecution and pushback that they finally 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 6: left to Holland they were able to go there. They 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 6: were there for about a dozen years, but they were 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 6: getting older and they wanted to retain the Christian unity. 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 6: So they found there was an opportunity to go to 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 6: the New World. So they had the famous voyage of 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 6: the Mayflower, and they also had some hired hands who 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 6: were with them. Understanding the hired hands understood, hey, we're 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: going to be a part of this Christian commonwealth as well. 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 6: But they were blown off course and so they were 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 6: not actually landing in the northern parts of Virginia, which 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 6: is where they were going to. And so what they 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 6: ended up doing before they set one foot on American soil, 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 6: the Pilgrims took that same type of covenant that they 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 6: had made together years ago when they became an individual congregation, 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 6: and they politicized it. It's called the Mayflower Compact, and 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 6: it became the first step to the US Constitution and 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 6: the Declaration of Independence, which predates it by eleven years. 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: And they said, we came for the glory of God 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 6: and the advancement of the Christian faith, and we do 65 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 6: covenant and combine ourselves into a civil body politic. So 66 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 6: once they settled that issue, to make sure that everybody 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 6: was on board with the same mission, then they came 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: and they experienced a lot of hardships in the New World, 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 6: but they were able to make new friends with the Indians, 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 6: have a nice, beautiful treaty of peace. And then with 71 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: the harvest they in sixteen twenty one, they said thank 72 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: you to God. And one last thing, Steve, if I may, 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 6: that first winner was so difficult for them that about 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 6: half of their numbers died. And yet after that horrible 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: winter which they survived, they still wanted to say thank 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 6: you to God. So they gave thanks to God in 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 6: all circumstances. And I think that's a beautiful lesson for 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: all of us. 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the punishment, the hardship, the clothing they had 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: was not what they needed. 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: They were ill prepared for what they faced, weren't they? 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: Yes, in many ways they were. 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 6: And it's interesting though, I once talked with a professor 84 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 6: named doctor Donald Lutz of the University of Houston, and 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: he wrote a book called the Origins of American Constitutionalism, 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 6: and he was talking about the Pilgrims and the Puritans 87 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 6: and all these different groups that used the biblical concept 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 6: of covenant to frame their governments. And he said, that's 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 6: what ultimately leads to the Declaration of Independence and the 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 6: US Constitution. He said, these poor people, they came with 91 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 6: the wrong technology. They even had roofs or things like that, 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 6: or portions. They were prepared, and none of these technologies 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 6: seemed to work. Their plows even didn't work. What did 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 6: work was this biblical concept of making covenants together to 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 6: form themselves into a civil body politic. It was the 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 6: perfect technology. And so to me, that's the real lesson 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: of the Pilgrims. 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did create these relationships, at least early 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: on were the tribes that met them there on the 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: shores of the Atlantic, and they built the foundation, as 101 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: you say, they built the foundation for this country that 102 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: is now two hundred and fifty years old. Of course, 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: they arrived much earlier than that. What else can we 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: take from the Pilgrims? What else can we take from 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: their experience from I mean, just the intestinal fortitude, the discipline, 106 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: the mental toughness to make it through all of that. 107 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: That's very true. 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 6: And I think this is where their faith in Jesus 109 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 6: really bored all out. You know, for years they were 110 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: basically having to have their services in secrets, and if 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 6: somebody found out, they could be punished, and they were 112 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 6: sometimes they even went to jail. Now, when they finally 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 6: made it over into America, they were in a situation 114 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: as far as the Indians are concerned, where there had 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 6: been some sort of plague that had taken place in 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: the Plymouth area about I don't know, a dozen years 117 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: or so before, and it had killed about ninety five 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 6: percent of the Indians. So the ones that were there 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 6: that were left, the Pilgrims were able to befriend them, 120 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 6: and they also made a treaty of peace that lasted 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: more than fifty years. It outlasted all of them, and 122 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: that was really quite an exemplary thing. And in fact, 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 6: the leader the Indians, leader Massasots, was even sick with 124 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 6: the plague. And one of the Pilgrims, Edward Winslow, gathered 125 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 6: some herbs and so forth, and he was on his way, 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 6: a long, long walk to get to Massassuett's. He was 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 6: met halfway and he was told no, sorry, the guy 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 6: is dead. And he said, well, let's go ahead and 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: try this anyway, and he went there and he was 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 6: able to treat him and pray for him, and he 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 6: got better. And that was one of the things that 132 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: helped cement this wonderful friendship. And I think the Pilgrims 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: give us a good example of getting along with different 134 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 6: people and showing a lot of religious tolerance, but while 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 6: always maintaining their own faith, and that faith in Jesus 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 6: was the key to the whole thing, not try. 137 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I was going to get a little amused when I 138 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: hear people say I want to live off the land. 139 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I want to be one with nature. You know, one 140 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: with nature doesn't come with restrooms and running water and 141 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: heat and electricity. 142 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: It comes with none of those things. 143 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: These are one hundred and two people the land on 144 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the shores in sixteen twenty the first Thanksgiving sixteen twenty 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: one second permanent colony. Of course Jamestown was first a 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: few years before that. But they brought a lot of 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: craftsmen and talented people with them, because that helped create 148 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: the ability to build a cabin, to build you know, 149 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: some infrastructure, very basic, some of the crude, but effective, right, yes. 150 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: And they were set back because initially there were two 151 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 6: ships the other one was the Mayflower, which they rented, 152 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 6: and then the other was the Speedwell, which they owned. 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 6: But the Speedwell proved on seaworthy, because that set them 154 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 6: back so many weeks. They landed when the winter was beginning, 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: and so it made it so difficult. So initially they 156 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 6: couldn't even build hardly anything, you know, because it was 157 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 6: so cold. But eventually, even though you know, again about 158 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 6: half their number died, they were able to, especially when 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 6: the spring came. They were able to make make these 160 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 6: different buildings and then meet the Indians, and the Indians 161 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 6: showed them. There was one man in particular named Squanto 162 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 6: who knew English and he knew his native tongue as well, 163 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 6: and so therefore he could translate for them. He was 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 6: the one that even helped them as they were making 165 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 6: their treaty of peace, so they were able to speak 166 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: together as a group. 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 5: But yes, they had different craftsmen and so forth. 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 6: And one last thing, if I may, it's interesting how 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: America is dabbling with this idea of you know, socialism, 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 6: and the idea that you know, you can get free 171 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: stuff from the government and so forth. The people back 172 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 6: in England who had funded the voyage of the Mayflower 173 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 6: imposed upon them a sort of communism or communalism, where 174 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter how hard you work, everybody will have 175 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 6: everything in common. It sounds Christian and so forth, but 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 6: in reality what it did was it undercut the incentive 177 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 6: for harder work. And so initially they were able to 178 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: trudge through to you know, under that arrangement. But when 179 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 6: their governor William Bradford, saw this really wasn't working very well, 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 6: it undercut incentives. He changed things around, and a lot 181 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 6: of different people to have different you know, plots of land, 182 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 6: you know, justly distributed and so forth, and everything they bought, 183 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: by the way, they paid a fair price to the Indians, 184 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 6: and to this day the deeds of all that are 185 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: can be found in Plymouth, Massachusetts. But so anyway, when 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 6: Governor Bradford said, okay, this is your land, you work 187 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 6: it and you get the profits and so forth, all 188 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 6: of a sudden the productivity just shot up. And America's 189 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 6: first foray or second foury, I guess, because you could 190 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: say there was a type of fory into socialism and 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 6: Jamestown earlier as well. It never works, It will never 192 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 6: work because it never works undermines human nature. It works 193 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 6: against human nature never works. 194 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Some of the first things that grew corn means squash, 195 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: taught to them by the Indians how to grow these crops. 196 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: So a very important thing to start agriculture in America. 197 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: And you know, this is just an important time. Here's 198 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: one other myth though. People realize that was the first Thanksgiving, 199 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: but it was not something that became common in the 200 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: middle of the eighteen hundreds. It was a long time 201 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: before it became a common practice. I'll give you the 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: last word. 203 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 6: Doctor, surely. And it's interesting. Our Virginian friends will say, 204 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: wait a minute. The first Thanksgiving in America was in 205 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 6: sixteen nineteen, you know, in Jamestown at the Berkeley Plantation. 206 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 6: But the American tradition of Thanksgiving gets back to the 207 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 6: Plymouth one in sixteen twenty one. So that's the prototypical Thanksgiving. 208 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 6: George Washington, first president under the US Constitution, declared the 209 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 6: day of Thanksgiving in November seventeen eighty nine, but half 210 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 6: es centurily later or whatever, seventy years later. Abraham Lincoln 211 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 6: during the Civil War, he's the one who made Thanksgiving 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 6: an annual holiday. And when you think about it, Steve 213 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 6: doesn't that really remind you that the people who founded 214 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: this country, they wanted us to remember God because he's 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 6: the source of our rights. Even our Declaration of Independence, 216 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 6: which is what we're celebrating in the two hundred teeth anniversary. 217 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 6: It says, Hey, our rights come from the Creator. And 218 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 6: when the rights come from the Creator, they're non negotiable. 219 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 6: And this is an important point in the experiment. 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: And they're not given to me by some other man. 221 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: They come to me from something much more powerful. Doctor, 222 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you being here. Happy thanksgiving to you. 223 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: Thank you, Steve, to you and yours. 224 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: What a great story. Uh, and it's just fun, isn't it. 225 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Coming out after the break, I'll shift to a more 226 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: theological topic, sending around faith and the driving force beyond 227 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: so many new found conversions. 228 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: More of that coming up on America's Voice. 229 00:12:53,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 7: Locks. 230 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, faith has always been a topic where supporters 231 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: and detractors are setting their ways, leaving most to just 232 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: leave it as it is. 233 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Well, in recent years are. 234 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: The topic of faith, specifically Christianity, has been at the 235 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: forefront of dialogue thanks to the way in which information 236 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: is shared across social media platform which unsurprisingly is leading 237 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: to a global exposure to faith based ideas from conventional 238 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: and unconventional sources too. Additionally, the elevated prevalence of secular 239 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: talking points and ideals and books one to think about 240 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: the concept of morality and whether turning to Christ can 241 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: save them from a world that seems to be so 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: out of control. 243 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 5: Joey. 244 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: To discuss this, the author of The Coming American Revival, 245 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Chris Widener, Chris, nice to see you today. 246 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: Great to see you too, Thanks for having me on. 247 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the season of Thanksgiving, there has been a 248 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: shift in America church attendance since September the tenth, when 249 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was murdered, as up fifteen to twenty percent, 250 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: more Bibles being downloaded, forty percent increase in Bible sales 251 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: from bookstores. Christian apps are being downloaded. It's a big deal, 252 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: isn't it. 253 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 254 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: You know. 255 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: The first thing comes to my mind is one of 256 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: the early church fathers coined a phrase. He said, the 257 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church. 258 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: And when you look around the world, you see lots 259 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: of countries where it's illegal to be Christian, but they're 260 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: growing because what happens when you're persecuted, whether it's to 261 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: death or it's just you know, you lose your jobs 262 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: or whatever. It weans out the light Christians, the sort 263 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: of carnal Christians, and it says I've got to be 264 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: serious about my faith because there are serious ramifications of this. 265 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: And I think what happened with Charlie's death was people 266 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: said this guy was faithful to the point where they 267 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: killed him for it, and I better take a look 268 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: at my own life and decide whether or not this 269 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: is that important to me. And as you've seen across 270 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: social media, people going to church for the first time 271 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: and shooting videos about it, it's exciting time. It's unfortunately 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: it had to come on the heels of Charlie's death, 273 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: but it's exciting times because people are recognizing the importance 274 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: of faith. 275 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I am concerned though, about something, Chris, because I see 276 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are doing cheerleading and you know, 277 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: raw ran feel good and stuff. But I feel like 278 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot of those folks are missing the point of 279 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: taking Christ as their personal savior. I think that we 280 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: have to make sure that we're giving them scriptural truth. 281 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: What do you say, Yeah, you know, Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote 282 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: a book called The Cost of Discipleship, and in there 283 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: he talked about cheap grace. It's those who say, well, okay, Jesus, 284 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: everything else is going well, and now I can go 285 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: to heaven for free. Okay, Jesus is my guy, right, 286 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: But they don't understand the cost of discipleship, which is 287 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: giving up the things that we might normally typically do, 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: or might be rooted in our sinful nature, or all 289 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: these things. And we have churches that are just loaded 290 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: with feel good sermons and feel good this and feel 291 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: good that and programs and such. I believe that now 292 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: is the time to say, hey, faith is serious. Jesus 293 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: said that we can't turn around and look for where 294 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: we came from because we wouldn't be worthy of the Gospel. 295 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: And so once we make that commitment to Christ, we 296 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: have to understand what that calling means. And the Bible 297 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: says we have to live worthy of the calling that 298 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: we've received. 299 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be worthy to take Christ, I mean, in 300 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: order to be there, you have to take Christ as 301 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: your personal savior. 302 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: That's what Christianity is period, right Yep. 303 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's not by works, it's only by grace. The 304 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: Book of the Fesians, chapter two says, not anything good 305 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: that you've done. 306 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: It's the free. 307 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: Gift of God. But when God gives us that gift, 308 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: he says, now I've got a course that I want 309 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: you to follow. I want you to give up all 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: the old stuff that you've done, the lying, the slander, 311 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: the greed, the the fornication, the adultery, all those kinds 312 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: of things, and live a life of purity because ultimately, 313 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: the Bible says, God gave us a command be holy 314 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: because I'm holy, not because it's better for you, but 315 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: because it reflects the nature of God. 316 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reflex the nature of God. 317 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: You have to you can't just talk to talk Chris, 318 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: And that's part of my concern now. Having said that, 319 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: exposing as many people as possible to the Word, going 320 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: to a Bible believing church something that Charlie said a lot, 321 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and I agree with. These are things that are these 322 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: are good steps, but they don't complete the journey. But 323 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: you have to start by exposing as many people as 324 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: possible to the Word, right, I mean, you have to start. 325 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: And so if you can open the door, maybe it's 326 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: a revival. Some people don't like that idea. I don't 327 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: care what you call it, a reawakening, an introduction to Christianity, 328 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: however you want to look at it, opening the door 329 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: giving somebody the revelation of Hey, you should read this. 330 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: You should read this book, the best selling book in 331 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the history of the world, the Holy Bible. You should 332 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: read it and immerse yourself in it. What do you 333 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: say to. 334 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I love the word revival because when you 335 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: break it down into its root, re means again and 336 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: viva means life. It just simply means come to life again. 337 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: Which is why we're putting on that revival next May 338 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: third and Jacksonville Revival two fifty. We believe that in 339 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America, yes, we 340 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: should celebrate our military and celebrate our success, and celebrate 341 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: our history, but we should also recognize the God who 342 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: inspired people to come here in the first place to 343 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: establish a country of freedoms rooted so much. So many 344 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: of our laws are rooted in biblical values, in biblical teaching, 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: and so many people have gotten away from that through 346 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: Marxism and socialism and the left wing kinds of ideas 347 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: that we need to call the Church back to becoming 348 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: alive again. We need to say we are an important 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: significant part of this country and it's time for us 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: to step up and lead. And so the revival. People 351 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: can find out about it Revival two fifty dot com. 352 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: The revival is specifically to call the church back to 353 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: repentance and to restoration and to living the abundant life 354 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: that God called us to do, reaching the masses with 355 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: the Gospel of Jesus. 356 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: Revival two fifty dot com. You can check it out 357 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: for yourself. The book The Coming American Revival will be 358 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: discussed it. Chris, really good talking to you today. This 359 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: season of Thanksgiving, we should give thanks to our creator. 360 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: As absolutely thank you, absolutely thanks for having me on, Steve. 361 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 362 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Glad to have you. All right, We're going to take 363 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: a break real quick. Don't go anywhere. This is the 364 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving edition of America's Voice Loud. Will be back in 365 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: a moment. 366 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 7: Well. 367 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: The markets in general have been getting a lot of 368 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: attention to President Trump's second term in office due to 369 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: his twenty twenty four campaigns. During in on the cost 370 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: of living for Americans. During his campaign in twenty four, 371 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: President Trump maintained the Americans would see instances of lower 372 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: costs on general goods and lowering of energy sources and costs, 373 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: a statement that was made to address the regular everyday 374 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: consumer and for the business sector. President Trump campaign on 375 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: deregulation to ensure manufacturing can get more done and cut 376 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: across the red tape. 377 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: Give me to discuss the state. 378 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: Of the markets under President Trump's second term as the 379 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: founder of Geltrude in Company, America's accountant, Dan Geltrude, Dan, 380 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. 381 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 8: Hey, Steve, how are you. 382 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm good. 383 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say we have mixed results. 384 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: The markets are done very well. But when you look 385 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: at certain things, coffee is well. Coffee is up nineteen percent, 386 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and beef is up fourteen percent, and orange is up 387 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: fourteen percent, but other things are down. Gas is less expensive, 388 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: but I see electricity costs they continue to go up. 389 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: So it's a mixed bag, isn't it. 390 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, it really is. You know when you look at 391 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 8: how costs have impacted different areas of the economy, Yeah, 392 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 8: it's all over the place. But I have to say 393 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 8: one of the real key areas here, specifically to energy, 394 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 8: is with oil, right, because. 395 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: Everything that we have. 396 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 8: Gets there using oil, and because of that, when oil 397 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 8: prices are down, which means gasoline and fuel is down, 398 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 8: that really helps provide some relief, even though we're still 399 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 8: seeing inflation. I would tell you this, it would be 400 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 8: a lot worse if the price of oil were higher. 401 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, oil is running about sixty to sixty five dollars 402 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: just to slightly under from West Texas Intermediate and for 403 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: BNCRUIT a little bit higher than often does, about five 404 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: dollars there. But energy independence has been a key portion 405 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: of this President's efforts so far, opening up opportunities for 406 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: drilling and leasing and putting natural gas and oil into 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: the pipeline. Making America not just independent, but energy dominant. 408 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: That's key to success in the long run, isn't it. 409 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. 410 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 8: And President Trump had been talking about that for the 411 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 8: prior four years to being elected, how critically important it 412 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 8: was to consumers and also from a national security standpoint, 413 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 8: that we had to become energy independent because wherever we're 414 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 8: buying our energy from. Steve, the truth of the matter 415 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 8: is is they are not our friends, and we can't 416 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 8: rely on them to say, oh, we're going to take 417 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 8: care of America. Well, we have to take care of 418 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 8: ourselves and the way to do that is to be 419 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 8: energy independent, and we certainly have enough energy to be 420 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 8: able to do that. 421 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the fifty year mortgage? 422 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Just being panned by pretty much everybody across the board. 423 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: The fifty year mortgage not real popular with people. Look, 424 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: people are getting into their first homes when they're in 425 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: their thirties, late thirties. It's a long way from where 426 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: it was when I was younger. That's a concern for people. 427 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Affordability is the word that keeps popping to the forefront, 428 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: and it's young women that are breaking away from Donald Trump, 429 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: bringing away from the Republican Party and frankly voting for 430 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: socialists like ma'am Donnie in New York City. That is 431 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: a critical component of what needs to be addressed going forward, 432 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: isn't it. 433 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 434 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 8: It is. And you have to look at why the 435 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 8: price of homes is so high, and it really goes 436 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 8: back to supply and demand. There is just not enough supply, 437 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 8: not enough homes on the market. So yes, interest rates 438 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 8: don't help because they're still too high. But if you 439 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 8: look at you know, the market in general, there's just 440 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 8: not enough homes out there. So how do you resolve 441 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 8: that problem? Well, you have to start building homes. You 442 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 8: have to have a situation where supply and demand come 443 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 8: in line, and that's where you're going. 444 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 9: To have some relief. 445 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 8: Now, until that happens, the price of homes is going 446 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 8: to stay elevated and you're gonna have a lot of 447 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 8: frustration and to come up with a policy or programs 448 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 8: that says, well, a fifty year mortgage will make that 449 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 8: monthly payment more affordable. That's true, But again, do you 450 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 8: want to be paying for your home until you're in 451 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 8: your nineties if you even live that long. To me, 452 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 8: that's not the way to solve this problem. 453 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: No, that's not going to work for people. 454 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: The last I think we only got about a minute 455 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: left here, Dan, But the idea that the government payments 456 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: would not go to Obamacare anymore to the Affordable Care Act, 457 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: but to consumers directly in the form of health savings accounts, 458 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good idea and worth pursuit. 459 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 8: Your thoughts, Yeah, my thoughts on that is the simple 460 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 8: fact of the matter is is Obamacare, the Affordable Care 461 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 8: Act simply did not work because it's not affordable. You 462 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 8: have the costs related to healthcare continuing to rise significantly, 463 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 8: so obviously there's got to be another way to do it. 464 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 8: We know the Affordable Care Act is unaffordable. We need 465 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 8: a change there. 466 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: It was never affordable, it was never about here. It 467 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: was always just an act. Dan, That's the way I 468 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: look at it, Always just an act, Dan Geltrue, Thank. 469 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: You for being here today. Thanks, Steve, really appreciate it. 470 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: The market's still doing well, gold back over four thousand 471 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: dollars oil, as he said, in pretty good shape. What 472 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: about you? Send me an email Steve Gerber dot com. 473 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: How are things in your neck of the woods. Can 474 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: you afford it? It's too expensive? Are you struggling? Tell 475 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: me Steve Gerber dot com. Send me an email. We'll 476 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: take a break and be right back on America's Voice Live. Hi, 477 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Thanksgiving edition of America's Voice Live. 478 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving a time where Americans give thanks to all that 479 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: they're grateful for, of course, from family and friends, to possessions, 480 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: even a good job. 481 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: Maybe more thankful for that today than at other times. 482 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: One thing I think most Americans are thankful for as 483 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: a whole is the United States military, the brave men 484 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: and women who. 485 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: Have served, are serving, and will serve in the future. 486 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: America was one and the load of patriots, and it's 487 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: these brave American heroes who step between the American people 488 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: in any. 489 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Threat that may come their way. 490 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: And that's why it's imperative that we give thanks to 491 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: our veterans and service members this Thanksgiving holiday. Hear me 492 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: to discuss this as a United States Navy veteran and 493 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: an attorney for children, Drew Mavona, Drew, nice to have 494 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: you here. 495 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 9: Thank you for having me. 496 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: Without the military that are all celebrating the two hundred 497 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: and fifty year anniversaries right now, and we've got Veterans 498 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: Day coming has come through and so we've had a 499 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: chance to look at the military and celebrate. 500 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: But without that. 501 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Military, we wouldn't be celebrating much of anything, would we. 502 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 9: No, we wouldn't agree with you one hundred percent. 503 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: So what would you like to say to the military 504 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: out there, somebody like yourself who has served and others, 505 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: what would like to say to him on this Thanksgiving Day? 506 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 9: You know, I think it goes without saying that we 507 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 9: appreciate your service, and so often, as a veteran, I 508 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 9: hear that, you know, thank you for your service. And 509 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 9: it's kind of hard to take in because so often 510 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 9: in the military we don't feel that we're accomplishing that 511 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 9: much at home, you know, so much of what we 512 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 9: do is abroad. But being able to take that thanks 513 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 9: in understand that people are so grateful for the sacrifices 514 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 9: for the work that we do, and all the families 515 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 9: that are have spouses that are in the military, the 516 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 9: sacrifices they put in really just at the end of 517 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 9: the day, so grateful. 518 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm grateful for here, Drew, and I 519 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: want you to weigh in on this that today that 520 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: they don't We don't have an American president sneaking into 521 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: an active military zone right now, into a war zone. 522 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: We don't have a vice president or senator is going 523 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: behind enemy lines or going to the front lines, because 524 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: we have no major war for them to go to. 525 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: And that's worth being thankful for, isn't it. 526 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 9: Yes, it is, And I agree with that. You know, 527 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 9: the world still in tumultuous place and there's lots of 528 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 9: things going on, but what we don't have is a 529 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 9: major conflict that America is involved in. And like you said, 530 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 9: are a president or vice president having to fly behind 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 9: enemy lines to greet those groups that are forward operating. 532 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 9: It's a very special time. 533 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: It is a very special time. Presidents have been very 534 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: historic in some of their visits, and it's an important 535 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: time for them to say, look, you're not home with 536 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: your families. 537 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: We get it. And so sometimes the. 538 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Presidents and vice presidents, other dignitarians will travel to make 539 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: sure that they are remembered. 540 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: Right. 541 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, most definitely. When I was abroad, we've had 542 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 9: a dignitary's come and visit us. And it's so thankful, 543 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 9: you know. We feel so appreciated when somebody takes time 544 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 9: out of their day, flies halfway ross the world to 545 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 9: say hey to us. 546 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, George H. W. 547 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: Bush went to Saudi Arabia in nineteen ninety, George Bush 548 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: to Fort Campbell, Kentucky two thousand and one, to Baghdad 549 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. These are some of the 550 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: places that they've gone to. 551 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Say. 552 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: Look on these holidays as you go into Thanksgiving and Christmas, 553 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: we have active military all over the world even today, 554 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: of course in a number of places, but not an 555 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: active war zone, which is something to be thankful for 556 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it is remarkable the amount of food that goes out 557 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: to the troops. Let me give you an example, one 558 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand pounds of turkey, one hundred and 559 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: seventy seven thousand pounds of beef, ninety eight thousand pounds 560 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: of ham. So even though we have this government shutdown 561 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: that has slowed things down and kind of disrupted things, 562 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: at least they eat well. 563 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, we do eat well, I would say, at least, 564 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 9: I would say on an aircraft carrier. You know, the 565 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 9: food in the Navy a little bit better than being 566 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 9: in a Ford operating base in foothills Afghanistan. But a 567 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 9: lot of times military does have the benefit of eating well. 568 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 9: And that's just a small kind of thanks that the 569 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: government provides to those people that are making those sacrifices. 570 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you hope for going forward? 571 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 1: We've got better recruiting numbers, We've got improvement in moraleary places. 572 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Except for the fact that they didn't get checks here 573 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: for a while. That gets corrected. But what do you 574 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: have to be thankful? What are you looking for as 575 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: we go forward in the military. 576 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 9: You know, as we go forward in the military, especially 577 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 9: with the modern generation. I hope that those recruitment numbers 578 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 9: stay up. You know, so often we think about getting 579 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 9: into tech or AI, these new things we hear about, 580 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 9: and the young Americans might not necessarily think about that 581 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 9: service to their country. But across socioeconomic spectrums, rich or poor, 582 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 9: the government needs your help to make that freedom. So 583 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 9: if you're not exactly sure what you want to do, 584 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 9: like I was when I was nineteen, and you're able 585 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 9: to serve and you're healthy, hey do it. 586 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, do it? 587 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Step up, be somebody, an army of one as they 588 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: used to say, So tell us about. 589 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: What you're doing now that you've left to tell you. 590 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: An attorney for children, what does that entail? 591 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm one of the few attorneys in the country 592 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 9: and especially in Texas, that focuses on helping injured children. 593 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 9: And we're talking about daycare injuries, you know, childcare injuries. 594 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 9: That is my focus, that is my passion, and that's 595 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 9: what I do every day because so often adults have 596 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 9: a voice in the law, and you've seen the billboards 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 9: and everyone knows as an adult you can hire an attorney, 598 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 9: but children don't have that same voice, and I'm here 599 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 9: to try to give them that voice. 600 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: Something else to be thankful for. 601 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: Drew, I greatly appreciate you being here today and for 602 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: all the troops out there, wherever you may be in 603 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: the far corners of the earth, who want to say 604 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: thank you for standing your post for us today so. 605 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: We can enjoy the thanksgiving. Drew, thank you for being here, 606 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: thank you for having me. Take care all right, thank you. 607 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: We'll take you quick break and be right back on 608 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: America's Voice Live. 609 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 7: Now. 610 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Whether we like it or not, there is a strong 611 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: need for unrelenting and unapologetic voices who can take a 612 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: stand against the narratives that legacy media tries to. 613 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Feed us every single day. 614 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: Individuals like Charlie Kirk realized this, and instead of just 615 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: presenting his points, he actively made an effort to invite 616 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: those with different opinions, those that didn't agree with him, 617 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: to discuss and hash out those disagreements in the name 618 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: of honest, socratic debate. Charlie was sad killed, his legacy 619 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: and method of debates still remained strong, and a new 620 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: effort to bring honest debates to inner city communities is 621 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: being spearheaded by an organization named Standing True to America's 622 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: National destiny, showcasing the everlasting impact Charlie had on all 623 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: of us, even within the black community. He crossed all lines. 624 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Join me how to discuss this as the founder president 625 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: of Staying True to America's National Destiny. Bishop E. W. Jackson, 626 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: Bishop Jackson, thank you for. 627 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: Being here, Thank you for having me. Steve a pleasure. 628 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: Now. 629 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if this is a revival. Some 630 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: people don't like that word. They say it's not really 631 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: a revival like we had in the eighteen hundreds. But 632 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: it is a resurgence. It is a reconnecting with God, 633 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: with Jesus Church attendants of fifteen to twenty percent, Bible 634 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: sales up forty percent, downloads of biblical apps on these 635 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: phones that we carry around of eighty percent. There's something 636 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: happening that's undeniable, isn't it. 637 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 10: There is no question there is a move of God 638 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 10: in the United States of America, And frankly, I think 639 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk has really just brought it forward. But it 640 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 10: really began, in my view with Donald Trump, who I've 641 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 10: said God had his hand on Donald Trump. No matter 642 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 10: what we may think of Donald Trump's spirituality, I think 643 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 10: God made clear that he wanted some things that happened 644 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 10: in our country, and he was using Donald Trump to 645 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 10: get them done, and he was obviously using Charlie Kirk 646 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 10: to get them done as well. And now that movement 647 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 10: has just continued to flourish. 648 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: Bishop, don't you find it incredibly ironic? 649 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Hypocritical? 650 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you hear all of these people, you sit it 651 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: on social media every day, people that are certainly not 652 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Christians taking shots at Christians. Well, that's not what a 653 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: Christian would do. That's how would you have any idea 654 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: what a Christian would do. You're sitting there from the 655 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: cheap seats taking shots at people like you, people like me. 656 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: The hatred, the vitriol quite something, isn't it. 657 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: It is? 658 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 10: And they'll never give us credit for it, Steve, But 659 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 10: we're going to pray for them and love them and 660 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 10: stand up with the church and conviction for what we 661 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 10: believe in, no matter what they say about us. So 662 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 10: they're to stop us, just like they didn't stop Charlie Kirk. 663 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 10: They're not stopping his wife. They're not going to stop 664 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 10: us either. 665 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about this America's national destiny, True to 666 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: America's national destiny. Tell me about what this organization is 667 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: what you're doing, what your goals are. 668 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: Well. 669 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 10: Our mission is to bring Americans together across racial and 670 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 10: cultural lives, to uphold out your Dao Christian heritage and values. 671 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 10: Because I really believe that America was intended by our 672 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 10: founding fathers to be a nation united around principle. They 673 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 10: believe that America is a providential nation. I believe that, 674 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 10: in other words, a nation formed and inspired by God 675 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 10: to bring liberty and peace and prosperity to people from 676 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 10: literally all over the world, because it turns out that's 677 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 10: where we come from. We're the only nation that really 678 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 10: doesn't have any natives if you go back far enough. 679 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 10: We're all here by having traveled to this continent. And 680 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 10: I really believe that there's a national destiny that God 681 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 10: has given us that we have not yet fulfilled. And 682 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 10: that's what standards commit into helping us do. 683 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because here's something I've never 684 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: understood in my time here on this planet. The black community, 685 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: the Hispanic community oftentimes far more conservative, far more in 686 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: depth in faith than a lot of your white of 687 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: fellow Americans. And yet you've always been on the left 688 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: side of the ledger you're not today. 689 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: I can hear that. 690 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: And there was a move when Donald Trump got elected 691 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: of black voters and Hispanic voters shifting dramatically because it's 692 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: always seemed to me an odd relationship between the Democrat 693 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: Party and those on the left that make insulting comments 694 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: about people like you and I. 695 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: But there is a change there too, isn't there. 696 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: It's coming. 697 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 10: We've sent a little bit of a setback in this 698 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 10: last election. But look, the Democrat Party was the party 699 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 10: of slavery, the party of the kru Klux Klan, the 700 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 10: party of lynching, the party of Jim Crow. They like 701 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 10: to talk about our history as Americans, but they don't 702 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 10: like to talk about the history of the Democrat Party, 703 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 10: which was really in the forefront of the most racist 704 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 10: ideology that the country's ever known. And we've got to 705 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 10: get people to start thinking about the issues in light 706 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 10: of facts and truth, rather than being manipulated by Democrats 707 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 10: who just keep telling them Republicans are racists. 708 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: We're not. We're going to save you from them. 709 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 10: And oh, by the way, we're going to abort your babies, 710 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 10: and we're going to teach your children to be transgender 711 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 10: and all this other stuff, but you can ignore that 712 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 10: because we're going to be your racial saviors. I mean, 713 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 10: it is really horrible manipulation and propaganda that people have 714 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 10: simply got to be delivered from. 715 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: And keep those folks they need victims they do, and 716 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: keep folks in the inner cities, oftentimes on a government 717 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: check on government dependency. 718 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: It doesn't get better. 719 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: It just perpetuates generation and generation, all of this we're 720 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: going to help you. I don't see the empirical evidence 721 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: that the Democrat Party has helped the Black community, or 722 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 1: the Hispanic community, or a lot of other places either 723 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: for that matter. But they keep saying they're going to 724 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: do it. They keep promising they're going to do it, 725 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: but they never deliver on a do they It's. 726 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 10: The spirit of slavery, isn't it, Because what do slavery do? 727 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 10: They bought people, and they're doing the same thing now 728 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 10: they're buying people. It's just a different packaging, it's a 729 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 10: different approach of different marketing, but it's the same thing, 730 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 10: creating dependents and making people believe they simply cannot make it, 731 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 10: they cannot exist without the support of the government, and 732 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 10: therefore they owe the government and particularly this party that 733 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 10: they think takes care of them, their allegiance, their absolute 734 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 10: unswerving loyalty, no matter what they represent. 735 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still give thanks for this nation this day Thanksgiving. 736 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, please tell us about the 737 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: series of these open forums you're holling within inner city 738 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: communities and what they're about and what you are accomplishing. 739 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: You mentioned Charlie Kirk. 740 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk really inspired me because the black community is 741 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 10: caught up in this ideological battle, but they have basically 742 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 10: been emotionally hijacked with facts, not with truth, but just 743 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 10: with this emotional racial appeal. And what we want to 744 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 10: do is a similar thing, going to the inner cities 745 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 10: and start asking questions, Well, is America systemically racist? 746 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? Let's talk about that. 747 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 10: Why is it that black people succeed in this country 748 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 10: and become millionaires and billionaires? And why is it that 749 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 10: so many do so? Well, what's going on? If it's 750 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 10: so systemically racist, how can people succeed? And there are 751 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 10: a number of other questions we want to ask and 752 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 10: really have a discussion about. Rather than just dismissing America 753 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 10: as a racist country without any evidence. 754 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 3: I think people will find out. 755 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 10: This is the greatest nation on earth to live, to work, 756 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 10: to build a business, to raise the family, and to 757 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 10: educate your children that's ever existed, and people ought to 758 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 10: be taking advantage of the opportunities, not denouncing the country. 759 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an amen to that, Bishop, 760 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Amen on this Thanksgiving sir, Happy Thanksgiving to you, and 761 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: thank you for such an uplifting message. 762 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve. God bless you. Happy Thanksgiving. 763 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: I bless you all right after the break well story 764 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: that reminds us of just how wonderful America is because 765 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: it is just like the Bishop said, plus answers to 766 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: our America's Voice question of the day, what are you 767 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: thankful for? In twenty twenty five, We'll be right back. 768 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: What makes America wonderful? We do it every day with 769 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: the hope of putting a smile on your face before 770 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: you head on your way. And what a day to 771 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: do it, I mean, unless you're a little sleepy from 772 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: the Turkey, of course. 773 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: Today's story comes to us from my studio. 774 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: In order to take a moment and just say thank 775 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: you without fail, everyone at home tunes into the Morning 776 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: Show into America's Voice Live in order to hear news 777 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: stories and topics not covered by legacy media sources, oftentimes 778 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: because the important thing to be mindful of is hearing 779 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: all sides between your viewership and support. On my social media, 780 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: you all at home can ensure that we keep bringing 781 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: you the stories that matter most. In itself can never 782 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: be appreciated enough. So in the spirit of being thankful, 783 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you 784 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: to all of you at home for making me and 785 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: real America's voice a part of your day every day. 786 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: And as far as what makes America wonderful, well, that's obvious. 787 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: Viewers like you you share in the pursuit of finding 788 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: voices who are not afraid. I'm telling it like it is. 789 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: So from all of us here, thank you very much. 790 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I truly appreciate you being here every day. 791 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: All right? 792 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: The question today, what are you thankful for? In twenty 793 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: twenty five? What are you thankful for? Sam Foles the 794 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: third says, I'm thankful I'm going to be able to 795 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: retire at the end of the year. 796 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: I would be too, Sam, Can I come with you? 797 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: I may not deserve it, but after forty plus years 798 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: of construction work, my body's earned it. 799 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 2: I guess it probably has. 800 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: Man. 801 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: We need more people like you, Sam, Real America is 802 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: willing to work hard, not ask for handouts. Thank you 803 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: for bringing you, Sam chet Colman Wright. So I'm thankful 804 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is our president and pray God will 805 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: protect him every day. You know all we hear in 806 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: the media these days, I could not possibly agree more. 807 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's a target every day. Keep him safe, Lord, please, 808 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Ann our president Donald Trump. You're thankful for the president. 809 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: Many of us are. Seventy seven million Americans voted for him, 810 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: of course, and that's critical. David and Judy Taylor write 811 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: that Donald is the president and MAGA is still strong. 812 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: It is we saw that with the collapse of the 813 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: government shut down, when Democrats realized you just can't beat 814 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You can't beat people who believe in this country. 815 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: Linda Ketchers side rights President Donald J. 816 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: Trump. I see a theme here developing. 817 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: People that watch this program believe in the president, believe 818 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: in America, believe in freedom, believe in a country for 819 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: our kids and our grandkids. That's what we're fighting for. Look, 820 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: I lived the American dream. I was blessed to do. 821 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for it today. But I want my 822 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: kids and grandkids to have the same opportunities that I 823 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: had that you've had. Alan Anderson Rights, Trump, Yeah, there, 824 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: it is not yours. I'm thankful for firearms instructors who 825 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: are teaching a growing number of Americans how to shoot. 826 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: I agree with that. By the way, I. 827 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: Saw several states now if you miss this, several states 828 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: now are going to require guns safety in schools. It's 829 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: about time. I have preached that message here on this 830 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: program for years. There are three or four hundred million 831 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: guns in America, maybe more for people that don't know 832 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: how powerful that opportunity is. You need to know how 833 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 1: to use guns. All of that right, So Americans learning 834 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: to shoot and how to use the equipment. 835 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 2: That's a smart thing. 836 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: Meety seven Rights, God's infinite love and grace. 837 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 2: Nine. I could not agree with you more. 838 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, we've been more outspoken since the death of 839 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk at the hands of an assassin way back 840 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: in September. We don't mind telling you we're Christians, and 841 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: we're okay with it. 842 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: We're Christians. 843 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: D D writes, my Savior, husband, family, friends, and my 844 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: rab family. 845 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: We are your family. 846 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 5: D D. 847 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I feel like we're all in 848 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: this together, don't you. Yeah, I feel like we're all 849 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: in this together. So again, on this Thanksgiving Day, thank 850 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: you for being here, Thank you for spending time with us. 851 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for you know, skipping the football game for 852 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: a few minutes. 853 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,959 Speaker 2: We appreciate it, and we appreciate you being here every 854 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 2: single day we do. 855 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: This is a family at Real America's Voice, with Rob 856 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: Zig and Parker Sig and all the great people behind 857 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: the scenes that you never get to see or hear from. 858 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: They appreciate you coming here every day too, because we 859 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: work hard for you to tell you the truth and 860 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that we give you a little different 861 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: look at the country from our perspective. God bless you, 862 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: God bless America. Happy Thanksgiving, my friends. We'll talk soon.