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Speaker 1: My next guest. As an international acclaimed thought leader on

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Speaker 1: emerging technology companies, he has been engaged in over one

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Speaker 1: to moneymaking Conversation. Rashawn Williams. Thank you very much. I

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Speaker 1: never thought I would be talking to someone with my

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Speaker 1: you saying that? How you said, it's just like your name.

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Speaker 1: It's just like your name exactly, and we have the

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Speaker 1: same beard. I basically want to be like Mr Weed.

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Speaker 1: You got hair on your head, so hey, we got

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Speaker 1: a separate the la. You still your dormly got some

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Speaker 1: I'm like that backtly where I want to be. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I love I love first gonna thank you

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Speaker 1: for the energy, thank you for coming on my show,

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Speaker 1: and that the purpose of this show is first of all,

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Speaker 1: for you, not for this not to be your only visit.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that clear first, because I think that, uh,

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Speaker 1: this show has been great because it gives individuals who

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Speaker 1: to having to pop up saying that you know your information,

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Speaker 1: where I can make money abound. Money Making Conversation is

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Speaker 1: designed to give people an opportunity to hear successful people

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Speaker 1: talk about the secrets of their success. And the success

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Speaker 1: is many different lanes. Your lane is different from my life.

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Speaker 1: May we may share the same annunciation, but we're two

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Speaker 1: different people. And how it's accomplished our path of success,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and when I when I talk about that,

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Speaker 1: Let's start at the beginning with you. When you were

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know it would lead me to here.

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Speaker 1: So I went to the one place that that everybody

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Speaker 1: and that's Wall Street. So I left more House College,

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Speaker 1: went to Goldman Sacks and that's when I learned about investing,

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Speaker 1: and all of my clients were billionaires, and I learned

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Speaker 1: So according to the government, if you want access to

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Speaker 1: Don't go nowhere. I just reshot McDonald. You're listening to

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