WEBVTT - Drive Time: Patriots Perspective with Evan Lazar

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<v Speaker 1>To remove Darlin Deep Speedways past Peas.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Please God, my having it's in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a football Friday. We will hear from a member of

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots beat as Evan Lazar joins me. Plus, it

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<v Speaker 3>is another chance to talk to my good friend Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Krabs about the weekend in college football, where the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>go from here and so much more, as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the week five NFL picks from the Baptist Health Studios

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<v Speaker 3>inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft

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<v Speaker 3>Time Podcast, Ye Daffy. We are joined today by Patriot

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<v Speaker 3>Creates dot com reporter and the host of the Catch

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two podcast at Easy Lazarre on Twitter, Evan Lazar.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back into the show, my friend. It's good to

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<v Speaker 3>see another round of Dolphins and Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>Man. Here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely good to see you, Travis.

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<v Speaker 5>We see the combine press box and I'm in Miami

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<v Speaker 5>that those are twice a year, so it's three times

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<v Speaker 5>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I guess we get some some draft content

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<v Speaker 3>every once in a while for the podcast as well,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're a valuable resource for us here on draft

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<v Speaker 3>time as well as Dolphins HQ are a brand new

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube show. And I want to start off here with

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<v Speaker 3>the head coaching change, because to your point, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen year old Evan watched the same head coach that

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure mid thirties Evan watched her.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how old you are, but it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a long time since they've had a coaching change in

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<v Speaker 3>New England. I'm curious your early impressions of Gerrodmeo and

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<v Speaker 3>what that first year has been like so far, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>four weeks in to covering a non Bill Belichick Patriots team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well I'm thirty one, so not mid thirties quite. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we're getting in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think the biggest thing that has been.

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<v Speaker 5>Differently is just that he's has a totally different personality,

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<v Speaker 5>which I know I'm probably not breaking news with that

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<v Speaker 5>by any means. And it's not that you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't see the whole Bill Belichick personality in general. Girod

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<v Speaker 5>is just a different guy, you know, is his own DNA,

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<v Speaker 5>his own human being. He's a little bit different even

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<v Speaker 5>than some of the other Belichick disciples, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I know, you guys down there familiar behind Flores or

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<v Speaker 5>Josh McDaniels or someone like that also, So it's been

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<v Speaker 5>unique in that situation in that sense. I think right

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<v Speaker 5>now what we're seeing though, is we're you so used

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<v Speaker 5>to the Patriots being such a well coached team that

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<v Speaker 5>our eyes are seeing things that were not jiving in

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<v Speaker 5>the Belichick era and saying, well, this is the coaching right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, these things are going wrong, and that's on

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<v Speaker 5>the coaching right. You know, a lot of the issues

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<v Speaker 5>that that Belichick had at the end were more personnel related.

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<v Speaker 5>It was more Bill a g im not doing a

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<v Speaker 5>great job than it was Build a coach. So right now,

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<v Speaker 5>Drod Mayo and the media here, every little decision that

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<v Speaker 5>he is making in game, you know, outside of the

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<v Speaker 5>games is getting nitpicked and compared to Bill Wow, which

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<v Speaker 5>is obviously very difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's it's so weird, man, because like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for years it was like you can write the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>in for twelve wins and they're going to get all

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<v Speaker 3>this media coverage and they are They just are who

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<v Speaker 3>they are, and it's just so weird to see him

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<v Speaker 3>in transition from what that era was to where they

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<v Speaker 3>are now and obviously going through a little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>They're one to three coming off of last season that

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<v Speaker 3>provided them the third pick in the draft, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I want to go next here is at the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback position, because you know, I follow probably I would

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<v Speaker 3>say the Jets are probably close too, but I probably

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<v Speaker 3>follow as many Patriots accounts as I do Dolphins accounts

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of my NFL hierarchy of Twitter follows.

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<v Speaker 4>But my sense is that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fan base is ready to see Drake May like now,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want to hear from the expert here and

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<v Speaker 3>when do you think the appropriate time is to get

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<v Speaker 3>Drake May out there?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they going to write it out for the entire year?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 4>Think the plan is? And what do you think it

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<v Speaker 4>should be?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is the only topic that anybody has any

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<v Speaker 5>interest in New England right now. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that based off of our metrics. It's like if you're

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<v Speaker 5>not writing or talking about Drake May, then people just

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<v Speaker 5>don't really care about what you're saying, so it's a

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<v Speaker 5>number one topic in maybe all of New England sports

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<v Speaker 5>at the moment, is when Drake May is going to

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<v Speaker 5>play and going into the season, especially after the improvements

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<v Speaker 5>we saw in training camp in the preseason, Drake May

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<v Speaker 5>did have a pretty upward trajectory to his development in

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<v Speaker 5>the summer, so by the end of the summer we

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<v Speaker 5>felt pretty good about where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two schools a thought. One.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually compared the situation a lot to the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 5>with Ryan Fitzpatrick in Tua, where Fitzpatrick's locker room favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a veteran quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he played better than Jacoby's playing right now,

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<v Speaker 5>certainly in that season.

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<v Speaker 1>But it felt the same where.

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<v Speaker 5>A captain guy that the locker room specs, the locker

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<v Speaker 5>room likes with preset, but they just drafted this guy

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<v Speaker 5>high first round pick that was clearly the future of

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<v Speaker 5>the franchise. So I just felt like it was inevitable

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<v Speaker 5>that at some point Drake May is gonna play, and

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<v Speaker 5>it is to an extent. But I think the other

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<v Speaker 5>thing that we're seeing now, even in season, is that

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<v Speaker 5>there was this growing concern about the state of the

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<v Speaker 5>offense around the quarterback. It's more specifically the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 5>which right now is basically dead last, and every single

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<v Speaker 5>stat that you can pull up in terms of pass protection,

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<v Speaker 5>your pass block win rate, pressure rate, quick pressure rate,

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<v Speaker 5>like all of it is just last, last, last, last.

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<v Speaker 5>So do you want to subject a rookie quarterback who

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<v Speaker 5>is a little bit raw and younger than some of

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<v Speaker 5>these other guys like bow Knicks or Jaden Daniels to

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of offensive line play and maybe have a

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<v Speaker 5>long term effect on his development because he gets sped up,

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<v Speaker 5>or he starts seeing ghosts or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was the big issue that everybody had coming

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<v Speaker 5>into the season. It's now manifested itself in season with

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<v Speaker 5>their offensive line play. So now the question really is

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<v Speaker 5>more about can they support Drake May than is Drake

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<v Speaker 5>May ready to support that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a great point, Devin.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can follow up on that, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>want to go a little bit off script here and

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<v Speaker 3>ask you just about your own thoughts about the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>position and development, because I've been talking about in the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast here and there about all these young quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 3>come in and to your point, Jaden Daniels is a

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<v Speaker 3>great example. Bo Nicks played, what was it, sixty college

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<v Speaker 3>starts is just an absurd number. But for Jaden Daniels,

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<v Speaker 3>he comes in and he looks the part right away,

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<v Speaker 3>right he looks like he has total control of that huddle,

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<v Speaker 3>the offense. He's you know, he's leading two minute drives

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<v Speaker 3>for game winning drives on Monday night football.

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like the real deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious where you come down on the development of

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<v Speaker 3>a young quarterback. And for a guy like Drake May

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<v Speaker 3>who doesn't have the same number of reps or years

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<v Speaker 3>in college as a Jadeen Daniels, what you think the

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<v Speaker 3>benefit is of him getting all these reps mentally without

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<v Speaker 3>how to go out there on the field. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the best way for a young guy to

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<v Speaker 3>grow and develop or you think that on the field

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<v Speaker 3>you could get some of that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I tend to lean towards playing young quarterbacks. We're even

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<v Speaker 5>seeing it now what these guys were talking about, even

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<v Speaker 5>Caleb too.

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<v Speaker 1>They really started out rough.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Week one was tough across the league for

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<v Speaker 5>all these rookie quarterbacks, and now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>you're starting to see them make some improvements. Obviously, Jaden's

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<v Speaker 5>gotten the best out of all of them, but even

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<v Speaker 5>Caleb Williams and Bo Nicks have made some strides in

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<v Speaker 5>just a short period of time. You mentioned all the

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<v Speaker 5>starts those guys made, Drake may only made twenty six

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<v Speaker 5>collegiate starts. He was a two year starter at North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 5>I just find it hard to believe that he is

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<v Speaker 5>going to improve leaps and bounds without playing because he

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't played a lot of football, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the coaches that I talked to. I wrote a big

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<v Speaker 5>feature about him for Patriots dot Com back when they

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<v Speaker 5>drafted him, and his high school coach pointed out to

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<v Speaker 5>me that he also lost a year of high school

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<v Speaker 5>football because of COVID, so he really has only started

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<v Speaker 5>forced seasons between high school and college in his career.

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<v Speaker 5>So he hasn't played a ton of football. And that

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<v Speaker 5>was part of the appeal with him, was that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he has some wards and he needs some development, and

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<v Speaker 5>he has that bust factor because of that, but his

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<v Speaker 5>physical tools are so immense that with more seasoning, he

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<v Speaker 5>should be a Josh Allen Light type of quarterback or

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<v Speaker 5>something of that nature. So that was always the big

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<v Speaker 5>conversation with him. I just don't see how a young

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback that hasn't gotten as many reps and hasn't played

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<v Speaker 5>as much football is going to get better without playing football.

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<v Speaker 5>But end I do see some of the other factors

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<v Speaker 5>that are involved with the Patriots. Specifically, they don't really

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<v Speaker 5>have a number one receiver. The Dolphins have two. The

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<v Speaker 5>Patriots have zero. Right, they don't really have an offensive line.

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<v Speaker 5>They have Alex Van Pelt, their new offensive coordinator, has

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<v Speaker 5>never called plays before in the NFL, really like he's

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<v Speaker 5>called it a little bit here and there, pockets, but

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<v Speaker 5>he's never been the primary play caller of an offense.

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<v Speaker 5>So he has some growing pains that he's going through.

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<v Speaker 5>So you look at all these different elements and you're like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a disaster waiting to happen for a rookie quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it doesn't really compare, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>But the first off that came to my mind when

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<v Speaker 3>he talked about the rep count was Anthony Richardson for

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<v Speaker 3>the cole who you know, miss that entire rookie season

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<v Speaker 3>where he needed those reps so bad because at Florida

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<v Speaker 3>he just didn't get them because you know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>start until late and he was early and Rollie to

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<v Speaker 3>the draft and or not en roly but declared for

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<v Speaker 3>the draft early on. So you wind up having a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that's played like five hundred reps going into his

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<v Speaker 3>sophomore year of the NFL. It's crazy. So it's if

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<v Speaker 3>there's a strong dichotomy there, I think the players will

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<v Speaker 3>get all those reps eventually benefit from it. So we

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<v Speaker 3>checked your box there for the criteria of what the

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<v Speaker 3>Patriots fans want to read about. Right in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>your metrics from a content standpoint, Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the game here a little bit because we

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<v Speaker 3>do have Dolphins and Patriots from Jillette Stadium on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>a one o'clock kickoff, and you have alluded to this.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get your just follow up on both

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line and the skill groups, because I read that

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<v Speaker 3>David Andrews is contemplating shoulder surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think he'll be out there?

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<v Speaker 3>And then just also kind of give us a walkthrough

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<v Speaker 3>of where those cracks on the offensive line are and

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<v Speaker 3>if you can, like a three part question here, Evan,

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<v Speaker 3>I apologize for that, but if you can, who has

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<v Speaker 3>been the top receiver. That's kind of I guess taking

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<v Speaker 3>the reins on what this current Patriots offense is.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So just starting with David Andrews, I would be

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<v Speaker 5>shocked if he plays on Sunday. For what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 5>he was taking off the media schedule this week, which

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<v Speaker 5>is usually a pretty good indication that he's not going

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<v Speaker 5>to be practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a tough SOB.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's really just a matter of it does he

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<v Speaker 5>want to play through this injury for the season and

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<v Speaker 5>just pain tolerance and all that kind of stuff, or

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<v Speaker 5>does he want to have the surgery now and try

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<v Speaker 5>to be ready for twenty twenty five. So it's a

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<v Speaker 5>tough situation for him, I will say, And I love

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<v Speaker 5>David Andrews. He's one of my favorite players I've ever covered.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he probably wears a red jacket in the

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<v Speaker 5>Patriots Hall of Fame someday. He has had some dip

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<v Speaker 5>in production over the last couple of years, specifically in

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<v Speaker 5>past protection. He's not necessarily the same guy that he

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<v Speaker 5>was three, four or five years ago. So as much

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<v Speaker 5>as it's a drop off from a leadership in just

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<v Speaker 5>a mentality and all those types of intangible aspects from

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<v Speaker 5>what we saw limited granted, but Nick Leverett their backup

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<v Speaker 5>center as a pure blocker. I'm not sure how much

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<v Speaker 5>of a true drop off that's going to be. You're

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<v Speaker 5>just losing a lot when it comes to grit, leadership,

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<v Speaker 5>communication on the line, all those elements that David Andrews

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<v Speaker 5>brings to the table. To your second question about where

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<v Speaker 5>are the holes in this offensive line?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish there was one spot that I could be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they're really good there. Maybe right tackle with Mike gon

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<v Speaker 5>Wnu is probably where you feel the best. But even

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<v Speaker 5>then he's a guard playing tackle out of necessity, So

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<v Speaker 5>that's not necessarily a great situation long term either. But

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<v Speaker 5>I look at the real holes left tackle as that

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<v Speaker 5>by far the biggest one. Last week they started Trey Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 5>who was a waiver claim by the Patriots on cutdown Day.

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<v Speaker 5>He's technically their fourth string left tackle if you want

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<v Speaker 5>to look at the depth chart that way. They signed

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<v Speaker 5>Chooks the Corps four in the offseason to be their

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<v Speaker 5>stop gap bridge left tackle. They knew they were going

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<v Speaker 5>to probably draft one early next year in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>He's no longer with the team. He's basically retired from football.

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<v Speaker 5>As my understanding, he quit essentially on the team. I

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<v Speaker 5>just got to call it what it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he went home and took his bags and went home.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's not here. Vederian Lowe was sort of their

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<v Speaker 5>second string backup. He has a knee injury. He was

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<v Speaker 5>a ruled out on Friday guy last week, so really

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have a chance to play in the game on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll see if he's ready to go. And then

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<v Speaker 5>their rookie Kidden Wallace, who they drafted in the third round.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw him in a walking boot and crutches after

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<v Speaker 5>the game on Sunday leaving Levi Stadium in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 5>so he's injured as well. So it's looking Unlesvedarian Lowe

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<v Speaker 5>somehow is healthy enough to play. It's looking like it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be Trey Jacobs again, who allowed two sacks

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<v Speaker 5>and seven quarterback pressures last week against the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's not his fault, like he shouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 5>out there. The Patriot should have done a better job

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<v Speaker 5>is shoring up this position in the offseason. But it

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<v Speaker 5>is what it is, and I would also just point out,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, rookie guard at right guard as well, Laden

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<v Speaker 5>Robinson their fourth round pick. Pretty good run blocker already,

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<v Speaker 5>but is struggling right now in pass protection. So they

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<v Speaker 5>really have a lot of holes everywhere. It's like a

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<v Speaker 5>ship with a bunch of different holes that they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to plug on the offensive line right now, and it has.

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<v Speaker 1>It has sunk their passing game for the most part.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't throw down the field when you have no time,

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<v Speaker 5>right you know, that's just common sense. So last one

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<v Speaker 5>on the receivers, I would say that the the guy

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<v Speaker 5>that really is like their third down and money type

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<v Speaker 5>of player is actually Hunter Henry at tight end. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the one that Jacob Brissett has the most comfortability

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<v Speaker 5>with and can move the chains a little bit. They

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<v Speaker 5>are bullish about Jalen Polk, their second round pick out

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<v Speaker 5>of Washington. He's come on a little bit here in

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<v Speaker 5>recent weeks. He's beginning moved up the depth chart a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more. Played his most snaps in the game

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<v Speaker 5>last week, a lot more first read progression type stuff

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<v Speaker 5>with him where the quarterback is looking at him initially

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<v Speaker 5>in the progression. So he's starting to be a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit more involved. But the thing with Polk is that

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<v Speaker 5>he's one of those guys that needs to be thrown

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<v Speaker 5>open a lot of the time. He's not like a

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<v Speaker 5>pure separator. He's more of like a back shoulder, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>catching traffic kind of guy, and Brissette is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>one of those types of passers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it hasn't been a great mix there.

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<v Speaker 5>But the hope is when Drake May comes back, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>comes into the games, that he'll you know, be able

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<v Speaker 5>to put those balls on Jalen Polk a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you just gave us the answer for

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots offense ranks where it does right now in

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<v Speaker 3>thirty second place, less than one thousand yards four games in.

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<v Speaker 4>But pintruglefield Dolphins offense as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead and take a quick break, come back

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<v Speaker 3>and talk about that on the other side of My

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<v Speaker 3>guest today, Evan Lazar, senior reporter for Patriots dot Com

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<v Speaker 3>and the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought

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<v Speaker 3>to you by Auto Nation. Back here with my guest

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<v Speaker 3>today from Patriots dot Com, Evan Lazar. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots offense. Now I want to ask you, Evan

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<v Speaker 3>about the Patriots defense and how they might attack this

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<v Speaker 3>Miami offense. And I want to start upfront because we

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<v Speaker 3>saw Matt Judong get traded before the year began. But man,

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<v Speaker 3>that front for so long had so many mainstays that

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<v Speaker 3>have kind of changed a little bit here over the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years. But in all of that, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have uncovered what I think is the next breakout

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<v Speaker 3>start at a pass rusher. Can you tell us about

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<v Speaker 3>Keyon White a little bit, Evan?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Keon White has been their entire pass rush. He

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<v Speaker 5>has double the amount of quarterback pressures of anybody else

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<v Speaker 5>on their team. You know, he's young, all right, So

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<v Speaker 5>there are some things I'll talk about that are still

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<v Speaker 5>works in progress in his game, but it's very very

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<v Speaker 5>clear that he is a disruptive force and extremely good

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<v Speaker 5>at rushing on the interior especially. I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's given guards all sorts of fits. A really explosive guy,

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<v Speaker 5>twitchy guy, really good hands, violent hands. I would call

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<v Speaker 5>him to get off blocks and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a disruptive guy.

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<v Speaker 5>But right now, I would say the biggest issue with

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<v Speaker 5>him and with their pass rush as a whole is discipline.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they've let quarterbacks for three straight weeks now

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<v Speaker 5>get outside the pocket and extend plays or even just

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<v Speaker 5>scramble for first downs on third down. They're thirty first

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<v Speaker 5>in the league on third down defense right now, and

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<v Speaker 5>a big part of that to me just watching their

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<v Speaker 5>film is that they're letting the quarterback outside the pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>So Keon White's been great and I always kind of

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<v Speaker 5>push back on people that criticize him because I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>if they don't let Keon White just go up the field,

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<v Speaker 5>are not going to have a pass rush, like he's

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<v Speaker 5>the only one that's getting after the quarterback. But the

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<v Speaker 5>other side of that coin is that sometimes he lets

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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback out of the pocket and that's how you

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<v Speaker 5>get you know, Aaron Rodgers on the move or Rock

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty on the move, and they've been burned by that

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<v Speaker 5>pretty badly. So they have to do a better job

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<v Speaker 5>of keeping quarterbacks in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that leads right in my last question here for you,

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<v Speaker 3>because we have a quarterback changed since two went down

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<v Speaker 3>back in Week two, Scalar Thompson. Back in week three.

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<v Speaker 3>We had three different quarterbacks start the last three games.

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<v Speaker 3>But we will have the same quarterbacks start a game

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<v Speaker 3>for the second time this year after to a start

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<v Speaker 3>of the first two games and Tyler Huntley, and usually

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<v Speaker 3>I ask you the question about how the Patriots plan

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<v Speaker 3>to attack Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle, But those guys

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<v Speaker 3>haven't been as productive since Tua went down, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>curious what Evan Lazar's game plan might be or how

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<v Speaker 3>you might draw up what it might look like for

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots when it comes to defending a quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 3>so brand new here that was, you know, a tough

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<v Speaker 3>showing on Monday night against the Titans. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>think the Patriots are looking to do against the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>offense with Tyler Huntley at the helm.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's interesting because you know, I watched their film

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<v Speaker 5>from the Titans game yesterday and I did a little

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<v Speaker 5>cut up on it for my game plan of all

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<v Speaker 5>the times that Tyreek is still getting open deep and

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<v Speaker 5>just the ball just isn't finding him because it's not

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<v Speaker 5>too And my whole warning to the Patriots would just

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<v Speaker 5>be don't fall asleep at the wheel just because it's

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<v Speaker 5>Tyler Huntley at quarterback, because Tyreek is still wide open

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<v Speaker 5>for seventy yard touchdowns some of the time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>one of these days, Tyler Hunterly is actually going to

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<v Speaker 5>complete one of those passes and don't let it be

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<v Speaker 5>on you. So I still look at their offense as

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<v Speaker 5>being explosive and dangerous and really one of those offenses

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<v Speaker 5>where they can score from anywhere on the field because

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<v Speaker 5>of those two receivers. So with that being said, and

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<v Speaker 5>I just mentioned all the issues that they've had with

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<v Speaker 5>the containing quarterbacks, that's the one thing with Huntley that

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<v Speaker 5>he does have the capability of doing. Even that quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>draw that he picked up a first down with on

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<v Speaker 5>Monday night. You can't let him just run around and

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<v Speaker 5>be an athlete back there. And I would also just

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<v Speaker 5>mention you as you know, a lot of those inbreaking

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<v Speaker 5>routes are always where they want to throw off a

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<v Speaker 5>play action, those glances and the crossers and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So if I'm the Patriots, they had a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>issues with that last week against San Francisco. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>Brandon Aik, Juwan Jennings big chunk plays off of just

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<v Speaker 5>post cross you know, just take the top off the

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<v Speaker 5>defense and then cross over the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 5>So they have to find a way to close that

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<v Speaker 5>down and take away those inbreaking routes from this Dolphins offense.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I still look at that game on Monday night,

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<v Speaker 5>I see I think it was the first play of

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<v Speaker 5>the game, dagger right to Tyreek, you know, off play

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<v Speaker 5>action glance later in the game to what I believe

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<v Speaker 5>it was Tyreek again, Like they still have that capability

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<v Speaker 5>of doing those types of things with Huntley. So I look,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't take anything for granted right now with this

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<v Speaker 5>Patriots team. They're They're not good enough for me to

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<v Speaker 5>sit here and say, well, it's a third string quarnderback,

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<v Speaker 5>so they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They still have to worry about a lot of things here.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you just yelled all the hits, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>with all the route concepts that the Dolphins runners.

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<v Speaker 1>I love.

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<v Speaker 5>I love watching that Dolphins offense. And the thing that

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<v Speaker 5>makes me super jealous too is how much pistol they run.

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<v Speaker 5>Like when the Patriots get Drake may and there, I

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<v Speaker 5>have been begging them to run pistol because he's not

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<v Speaker 5>very comfortable with running under center. It's not anything he

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<v Speaker 5>did in college at a regular level. And North Carolina

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<v Speaker 5>did run a lot of pro style pistol concepts though

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<v Speaker 5>for him and at uh at un C. So they

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<v Speaker 5>want to be an under center run team in New England,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just say, like, look at Miami, they are

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<v Speaker 5>a pistol running gun team. Just play him in the

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<v Speaker 5>pistol like he doesn't have to be all the way

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<v Speaker 5>under center.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love watching those concepts.

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<v Speaker 3>You get like three more gaps compared to sidecar in

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<v Speaker 3>the shotgun right with you in the formation. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>with you on that all the way I said I had.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the last question by a lot. I have

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<v Speaker 3>one more for you this every time off the beat, right,

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<v Speaker 3>guess it's just simple Patriots win if and then you

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<v Speaker 3>get a fill in the blank, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would say the Patriots win if their defense gets back

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<v Speaker 5>on track this week against the backup quarterback. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they've had that in their bag in this Belichick mess

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<v Speaker 5>that was last year or even twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, they've beaten the Tyler.

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<v Speaker 5>Hunt Lees of the world, or you know, whatever backup

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback they're facing. So they need to get right on defense.

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<v Speaker 5>We went into this season thinking, yeah, they'll probably have

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<v Speaker 5>a little drop off because Belichick's not here on defense

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<v Speaker 5>but they still have a ton of talent on that

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<v Speaker 5>side of the ball. Right now, they're twenty fifth in

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<v Speaker 5>the league in EPA on defense. That's not what we

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<v Speaker 5>expected going into the year, but we expected them to

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<v Speaker 5>still be top fifteen, top half of the league on defense,

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<v Speaker 5>and they haven't been. So they are going to win

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<v Speaker 5>on the back of their defense. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>score a lot of points this year. We know that

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<v Speaker 5>even when Drake May gets in there, they're probably still

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<v Speaker 5>not going to be a great offense, so they have

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<v Speaker 5>to get right on defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Great stuff there.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a lot smarter on the opponent this week

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<v Speaker 3>with Evin Lazarre from Patriots dot Com, senior reporter and

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<v Speaker 3>the host of The Catch twenty two podcasts at Easy

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<v Speaker 3>Lazarre on Twitter and Evan, I think we close the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast just wait by saying, how about that mapples my friend?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Well, maybe that Joe kind of fell on

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<v Speaker 3>deaf ears there towards the end. Big thanks to Evan

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<v Speaker 3>Lazar for his time on the show. Gosh didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>pull any punches there on the Patriots, did he Let's

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and pick the week five games before we

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<v Speaker 3>take our last break and hear from the great Kyle Krabs.

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<v Speaker 3>We kick it off on Thursday Night Football. I picked

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<v Speaker 3>the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they win?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows. We will know by the time you hear

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast, but right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have an early morning game as the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>will play the Vikings in London.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead and give me. I'm really in between on

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<v Speaker 4>this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like it's a perfect spot for the

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<v Speaker 3>Jets to kind of bounce back and the Vikings a

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<v Speaker 3>step back after a road divisional win and a.

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<v Speaker 4>Great four and oh start.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think that the Jets offense is still

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<v Speaker 3>going to be stuck in the mud, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Vikings can find to run the football on that

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<v Speaker 3>Jets defense. In fact, the more I talk about it,

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins offense when they're clicking always gives that Jets

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<v Speaker 3>defense issues. And I think there are similar scheme things

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<v Speaker 3>there and similar talent.

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<v Speaker 4>For the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>So give me the Vikings over the Jets to make

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<v Speaker 3>them fall to two to three, and hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy their misery as much as they're enjoying ours. I

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<v Speaker 3>am taking the Patriots over the Dolphins. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to prove it for me to pick the Dolphins again

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<v Speaker 3>this year. I'll take the Panthers over the Bears in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Dalton goes and gets his second winners the Panther

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 3>starting quarterback. I'm gonna also take another upset here with

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland over Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Why.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like Washington's been kind of on a

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<v Speaker 3>high for a couple of weeks. It feels like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a ripe spot to get picked off, especially against a

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<v Speaker 3>good DC against a young quarterback in Jaden Daniels, who

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<v Speaker 3>I think is the absolute truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me the Browns there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also taking the Jaguars to get their first win

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 3>of the year over the Colts. They seem to always

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<v Speaker 3>give that Colts team issues, and they're gonna be either

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<v Speaker 3>limited with Anthony Richardson or have Joe Flacco in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I will take the Jags get their first win of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. Give me Buffalo over Houston in that big

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 3>early season matchup there for AFC seeding hierarchy, I'll take

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the Ravens over the Bengals. Give me the Raiders over

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the Broncos. I guess I don't know who cares. I'll

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>take the Niners over the Cardinals and that one Seahawks

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 3>over the Giants. I'm also gonna take Green Bay over Pittsburgh,

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 3>or rather, I'm sorry the Rams. I will take Dallas

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 3>over Pittsburgh on Sunday Night football.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a fun matchup, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we'll go ahead and take the Chiefs on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday Night over the Saints in now Leans.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go ahead and take our last break right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back on the other side with Kyle Crabs Drift

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<v Speaker 3>Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you.

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<v Speaker 4>By Automation.

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Kyo Crabs everybody for his weekly Friday spot here on

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<v Speaker 3>the Drive Time Podcast. I don't think we'll have you

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<v Speaker 3>on next week, though, big dog, as we have a

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<v Speaker 3>week off no Dolphins football and week number six first

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<v Speaker 3>of all bye week plans, have you got them?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Probably recaliber right the college football schedule. I had

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<v Speaker 2>some travel plans that were mixing up. Going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get some college games and pour myself into that

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and really figure out how to maximize the stretch running

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<v Speaker 2>conference play in the bowl game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what I'll be focused on.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart fellow, he never stops working.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean it is a blessing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even in a season that hasn't started for the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I think anybody envisioned or hoped that

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it would to be able to have the other avenues

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>in football is certainly something that allows you to keep

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<v Speaker 2>perspective and things, and you see other teams that go

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<v Speaker 2>through these battles and understand that there's ebbs and flows,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's moments of low points and high points, and

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<v Speaker 2>it puts the whole thing in perspective when you see

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<v Speaker 2>how many teams there are out there in this space

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<v Speaker 2>and how many of them are uniquely experiencing things that

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<v Speaker 2>are similar or dissimilar to what the Dolphins are experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I think that's a good transition into the

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<v Speaker 3>first topic I wanted to touch on here, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a long season, no doubt about that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I try my best to maintain that perspective because we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen teams, you know, start zero and four and rip

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<v Speaker 3>wins off, and we've seen teams start off hot and

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<v Speaker 3>go the other direction. I think you can kind of

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 3>see the tea leaves here with this Dolphins team and

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 3>the way things are going. But you know what, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, Jim it's looking more like a top five

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 3>pick for this team more than any other outcome at

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>the moment if they do find themselves in that mix.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like we talked to quarterbacks the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks here, but what do you think right now,

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<v Speaker 3>given all the information that we have about where this

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 3>team is, where they are going forward, where the quarterback

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 3>currently stands long way out? This is why they pay

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 3>you the big bucks, Big Doug. What's the best course

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 3>of action right now? If you forecasted a top five

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 3>pick for the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if you forecast yourself in that stratosphere,

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you have one of two forks in the road that

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can take. You'd be in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to land of what is a handful of elite talents

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<v Speaker 2>in this draft class. Whether that's Will Johnson the corner

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>from Michigan, or Mason Graham the defensive tackle for Michigan,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>or Travis Hunter, the whatever you wanted to play, he

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>could probably play it type of player. I think he's

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>better as a corner personally, Travis Hunter. But I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's dollars to be had at wide receiver with the

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver market and what that's looked like in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL last couple of years, So I don't think you

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>could go wrong either way in that regard. I think

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you would be an interesting situation to take a best

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.719
<v Speaker 2>player available, or I think the other alternative would be

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>we've seen what the backup quarterback situation has looked like. Unfortunately,

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>the first couple weeks of having to play with the

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<v Speaker 2>backup quarterback with this system in year three and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of players that have familiarity with it, I think

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 2>everybody probably would have hoped that that things would have

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 2>clicked a little bit more with the interruption with the

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 2>signal caller, and that obviously hasn't been the case. So

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I think you have to put that position under a

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>really big microscope. And obviously, Tua when he's on the

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>field is so impactful and so unique, and I think

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you see that and how the team is struggling without him.

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>But I do think you would be in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in an additional quarterback and have one with

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>talent that you feel you could win with and then

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of let that situation play out. This would not

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>be the first time in league history that you have

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback that's a veteran established starting quarterback with an

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>early round pick behind him and having two good quarterbacks

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>a good problem to have. Of course that the challenge

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<v Speaker 2>there is the opportunity cost of what that might look

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 2>like as far as the domino effect for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's I guess why I come down is

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>if you wind up in that position, it's the old adage, like,

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to be there again, right, so take

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 3>advantage of the fact that you are there. And if

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, we do wind up getting interruption long term

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 3>with QB one, it would be nice to offset that

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<v Speaker 3>with what would be a cheap quarterback by way of

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 3>the draft with the rookie contract.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's where I would go. But if

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 4>we're trying.

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 3>To like you know, I think we both get accused

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>of this a little bit sometimes of the you know,

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>selling hopium, although I don't think it's what either of

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>us do.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not an accurate term, it's not a realistic it's

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>it's looking at the possible outcomes and understanding what the

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>team is trying to achieve and explain what the thought

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>process is and how it's supposed to work.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not hopeium.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.719
<v Speaker 3>It's not sorry, And like I was, I was tweeting

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>about like a Jordan Brooks sack in the second half

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 3>of the game on Monday and how it was really

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 3>cool sim pressure look or rather you know, they brought

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 3>the pressure after simming it all night and it caused

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>a bust in protection, and I mentioned like, that's been

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 3>one of the cool parts about this team so far,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 3>not many of them, but it's been one of the

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>cool parts. And someone's like, look at this a hole

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 3>trying to spin positive, Like, no, I'm just covering the game, dude,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just telling you what happened in the game. I'm

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>very well aware of where the thing of where situations

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>are right now. But the reason I bring this up, Kyle,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>is because if you did want to try to get

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 3>excited about, you know, next year, if that's where you

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>are already, I'm looking at the Niners over the Kyle

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Shanahan era, and they had two years where they were like, well,

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I guess early on they stunk because they had Brian Hoyer.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Then that second year they got or Jimmy Garoppolo got

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 3>hurt that second year, and then in twenty twenty they

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>were supposed to be this great team after going to

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen, but once again, as

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>they did for you know, two of the previous three years,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 3>injuries railroaded that team. They won six games, and they

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 3>got better performances from Nick Mullins and I think CJ.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Bethard that year than we've gotten fm our backup quarterbacks.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>But my ultimate point is those years provided them a

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>chance to get Nick Bosa and it also provided them

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 3>a chance to trade up and get Trey Lance, which

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 3>was an absolute disaster, but they were in those positions.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Can you draw any parallel to those Niners teams with

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 3>the injuries and the bad luck they accrued during those years,

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 3>because this happens sometimes to good teams.

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think the Dolphins are a good team right now.

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I think they have other issues, but last year they

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>were a very good football team. Can you draw any

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 3>parallels two teams like the Niners that have gone through

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>that amid the successful runs or anybody else, or do

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 3>you not see it that way at all?

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I certainly think there's I think general consensus is

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the best executives in the game of football

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>is Howie Roseman, right, and the Philadelphia Eagles, and they

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>drafted a quarterback in Carson Wentz and gave him a

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>second contract and he had an injury and they had,

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>like at two quarterbacks, do you really have any situation?

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>And the bottom fell out there. They went four eleven

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and one, and it put them in a position to

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>being a high draft pick and draft an impactful player.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I think about the La Rams and maybe their draft

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>capital situation was a little different, but they were a

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>team that made a couple of runs, then they got

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>really banged up and got hurt, and then they had

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a youth movement that came in and they made the

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 2>playoffs last year, won ten games. Like there's incidences of

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>this happening all over the league. I think the thing

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 2>where Dolphins fans are a little sours. Do you look

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>at Philadelphia and you say, okay, they want a super Bowl?

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>They had Nick Foles on the great backup quarterback run

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>of all time and they win a Super Bowl in

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that year before the bottom falls out, And you look

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>at the Rams and they had a very aggressive mentality

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and pushed all their chips in and they got it

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>done at the end. And for Miami, if the payoff

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is is last year and then there's a regression. I

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>think that that's where the sting is for Dolphins fans,

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and I totally get that, and I know a lot

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of Dolphins fans have a lot of different opinions about

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>like the state of affairs with the team right now.

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>But it is October fourth, right, Like, there is so

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>much more information to be collected before any judgments can

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think should be made about all directions that

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>this team is gonna have to go. But this is

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>the kind of season if it plays out the way

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that you think it is, that is going to make

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you take a step back and re examine everything that

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>you're doing.

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I love that because it reminds me of twenty sixteen

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>when like one in four it's like they got to

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>get Tannehill out of here, and then he rips off

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 3>the best run of his career, and we come back

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 3>in twenty seventeen, even with an ACL injury, and it's like, oh,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 3>he's our quarterback.

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 4>And then it didn't go that way. It just kind

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 4>of came back and forth.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>But basically your point about there's so much more information

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>we have to glean from the next thirteen games, I

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 3>just I love that point. Let's go ahead and dive

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>right into the weekend of college football. Here rip Washington

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 3>State's miracle college football playoff runs seems to have come

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 3>to an end after a blowout against Poise State.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 4>You sure do.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I was hopeful that was the last game on the

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 3>schedule until like the second game to the penultimate game

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>that they would have had to get through to maybe

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>have a pretty good run at this because they played

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>like San Jose State in Colorado, not a lot of

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.239
<v Speaker 3>good teams that schedule. Actually, before we do anything here,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 3>before we talk about the games, can we talk about

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 3>ash Gent because I don't think I've seen anything like it. Man,

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Like some of the runs he had in that game.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm he's on pace to break Barry Sanders rushing yards

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 3>and rushing touchdowns record. He's on track to obliterate the

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 3>broken tackle and yards after contact records, even if those

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>are on.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 4>A decade old.

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>But we're talking about b Jhon Robinson and Jonathan Taylor

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>records there. His rushing line this week is like a

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>buck ninety two. That's the expectation for he's going to go.

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Just how high up the draft board can he go?

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 3>And is the fact that run on the football is

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of back, does that maybe elevate his stock a

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 3>little bit?

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So he has eight hundred and forty five yards on

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>eighty two cares in four games.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 4>He played half of the Portland State game too. He

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 4>came out early in that one.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's on pace to break the Barry Sanders rushing

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>touchdown record in the regular season without the bowl game. Like,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>how insane is that? So I had him in the

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>top fifteen to my latest mock draft for the thirty

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>thirteen which came out on Monday. He went to the Chargers,

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>which we know they want to run the ball. We

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>know they want to run downhill. They invested an offensive lineman,

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>they want to run at you. They want to challenge

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you physically and play big boy football and belly bump

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>with you in the trenches and all that stuff. And

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>this kind of ball carrier, Ashton gent running back from

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Poise State, who has breakaway speed. They time the when

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the GPS is over twenty one miles an hour on one

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>of his break runs this year at that size with

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the contact balance, and he's a player who can contribute.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 4>On passing downs.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think by and large, the days of like four

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred carry running backs. And I know Ricky Williams's ears

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>are ringing right now just hearing four hundred carries in

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>a season, but I think those days are by and

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>large gone right. But a player like this who can

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 2>be the predominant volume ball carrier, even in the load

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 2>management era of NFL football, I think is on its

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>way to being a really impactful player and type of role.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 2>And I do think it's one of those things where

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a few teams that get out in

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>front of the curve and that everybody's gonna be chasing

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>them for a little while and then it's going to

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>swing back.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 4>The other way.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>But he has the potential to be a catalyst for

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>a team to being one of those teams that gets

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 2>out in front of the curve.

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 3>It's so rare for that playmaking ability because he makes

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>runs that are not there happen like it didn't. He

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>did it multiple times in the WSU game.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 4>I know it's it's the freaking coops.

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not an NFL defense, but gosh, man, like, I

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 3>think there's gotta be insane value to a guy who

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 3>turns second nine into second and four. Pretty much every

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 3>damn time he touches the ball, all right, So that's

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 3>that's a player that I mean, you gotta figure. You

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>hope with the way things go, he's not on the

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 3>Dolphins radar because we hope that eight Chan and Wright

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 3>become those guys that are the future of the Dolphins

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 3>tail back room.

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 4>But we'll see. Like you said, there's a lot of

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 4>information still to be to be had. Here, can I

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 4>give you a stat on gen T real quick? Please?

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Just for the season, he's averaging seven point one yards

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>after contact per rush?

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 4>What's his what's his just outright average?

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Like twelve ten point three he's getting He's getting three

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>point one before contact and then getting another seven point

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 2>one after contact per rush on eighty two rushes in

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>four games.

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 3>That's like the best yards per pass average in the league,

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 3>much much less rushing yards per average.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, my goodness.

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go ahead and get to the slate

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of games this weekend. We talked off air a little bit.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Not the most attractive slate of games. I mean, WS

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 3>shoes on buy So who cares, right, But what do

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 3>you got this weekend?

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Some players, maybe we've talked about enough about a player

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>that probably is not going to be a Dolphin just

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 3>based on overall odds and also the position he plays.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>But what else you got here as far as guys

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 3>that you could possibly see in twenty twenty five being

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 3>on the Dolphins radar.

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a game that has prospects on both

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>sides no matter who has the ball, and it's Iowa

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State. And I know Iowa known for their offense

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>right but they do have a tight end to luke

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Leche who's a red shirt senior. They have quarterback Kde

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>mcmarrick transferred from Michigan. They have running back Caleb Johnson

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>who's a junior. Those are very talented players on the

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Iowa offensive side of the ball.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 4>And then they have a.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Defensive back kind of hybrid type player and Sebastian Castro

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>who's a fifth year senior as well. And then Ohoa

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>State might be the most physically talented team in the

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>country as it pertains to draft eligible talent where they

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 2>have a freshman, true freshman phenom and Jeremiah Smith. There's

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>a couple of true freshmen in college football right now

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver that are just gonna obliterate all kinds of expectations,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 2>which is incredible because they're they're incredible players. But Ohio

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 2>State that has a draft eligible in a Mecca Buka,

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 2>who's kind of next in line for that wide receiver

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>factory at Ohio State. They're left tackle. Josh Simmons is

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a red shirt junior. He's really emerged. He transferred in

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>from San Diego State. He's been a big, big jumper

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>this year as far as his performance on the field. Uh,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 2>they've got a couple of backs themselves. Ohio State doesn't

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Trevon Henderson and Quinn Shawn Judkins. Judkins had transferred in

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>from from Ole Miss as a bit of a spread.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>There's so there's a thunder and lightning element there. And

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>then defensively, I mean you got three guys on the

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>defensive line. I really like the job that Jack Sawyer's

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>done this year as a defensive end with heavy hands.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.479
<v Speaker 2>And then they've got some defensive backs between Denzel Burke,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>who's a red shirt junior corner has been a productive player,

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 2>and then Laythan Ransom at safety. So there's talent up

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 2>and down the board for Ohio State and they're going

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>against a team that's got talent on both sides the

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 2>ball as well.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Great stuff.

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Love it, man, appreciate that insight on the college game.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead and pivot now to the pro game

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday. Last game for a while here we go

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 3>to New England, take a week off, then go back

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 3>out to the Midwest for the Indianapolis Colts. What are

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 3>you hoping to see here from Dolphins and Patriots, Kyle?

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to see an inspired performance. And I

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>know that's not necessarily where everybody's expectations were, but this

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 2>is where we're at right now, right so I want

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to see the defense continue to play hard and play

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 2>with pride. I think they've done a lot of that

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>in the first four games of the season, despite having

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>to start on some short fields not having a complimentary

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>game script available to them, and I think it's incredible.

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>They're one of the most effective teams pressuring opposing quarterbacks

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and they haven't played with the lead for a single

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>snap all season, like it really is. I cannot be

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>more impressed with what they have been able to do

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>with what they have been handed offensively. I think that

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and you see guys like Jalen Ramsey laid in that

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>game against Tennessee, making plays, being fired up, leading by

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>table like that stuff. It matters, and guys like I

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>want to see the leaders on this team play with

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that kind of fire across the board. And I wanted

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>to give Jalen Ramsey a shout out because I saw

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 2>it from him on Monday Night. So players that are

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 2>are considered to be the leaders on your team, I

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>want to see them match that energy that Jalen Ramsey

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 2>had in what was the face of defeat on Monday night.

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you give me that, we'll see how the

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 2>game itself plays out. It's really hard to say because

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>there's so much unknown about Tyler Huntley in his second

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>career start. He's still been here less than a month,

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and the operation of the offense and New England is

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a team that they have their own wild cards in

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>this game as well. So I really don't know what

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>way the game's gonna go. But the least thing that

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you can do is control what you can control, and

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>that's go out there and play to your potential and

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>play with an intensity that says you're playing with a

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of pro because there's a lot of these guys

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that are very talented players and should be playing with

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of pride.

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 4>I love your point on Ramsey.

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 3>He was one of my top five tapes from the

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 3>game on Monday, which was all defense because that's where

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>we had to go.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 4>But I thought you got that.

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 3>From him, From Jordan Brooks, from Zach Sealer, from Kalais Campbell,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 3>all four of those guys really kind of piqued my

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 3>interest in what you just talked about. And then also, man,

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 3>what a rough week to lose jaland Phillips for many reasons,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 3>but also y, I mean, we'll see what happens to

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 3>that edge group because you know, do we get Mo

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Kamara's first action in the NFL because that Patriots offensive

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 3>line is as banged up as we are at that

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 3>edge group, so should be an interesting matchup that way, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 3>As always, we appreciate your time draft lead for the

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<v Speaker 3>thirty third team, Locked on Dolphins Podcast, Touchdown Miami Substack,

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle, stop working so hard man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for Grevis.

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<v Speaker 3>One of these days I'm gonna get him to outro

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<v Speaker 3>with something. Besides thanks, Travis.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Week five.

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<v Speaker 3>Lasts last thing to do is watch the Dolphins play

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