1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: and Gold r Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly here in Mobile, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Alabama at the Senior Bowl, the national practice taking place here. 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: Just pulling back to curtain and we are taping this 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: in the morning because we wanted to. We wanted to 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: be here on site while the practices are going on. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Rob King back in Pittsburgh handling duties back there, and 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: of course Justin Miller on the hotline. Also idea of 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: where this you know, we're just talking about some of 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: the strengths of the draft. Let's let's take a look 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: here at Daniel Jeremiah's initial top fifty list of players 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: in this draft, and you can kind of get an 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: idea of where the strength of this draft lies. You know, 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: who obviously a justice you know, based off of what 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: happens here at Senior Bowl, and then obviously you know, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: throughout the process here as we get into the combine 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But he's got Abdul Carter from 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Penn State, the edge rusher at number one overall. 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a really good, really 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: disruptive player, and. 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: You know it'll be it'll be very so. 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Look, edge rushers are always guys that everybody wants, right, 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, who can who can disrupt plays, who can 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: get to the quarterback, who can do. 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: All those sorts of things. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: But again, I wonder if the success that the Eagles 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: have had drafting defensive lineman, you know, high in drafts 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: and look where they are and they're competing for a 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: super Bowl might have an effect on this list we're 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: about to see. But uh, yeah, I don't think that's 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: a I don't think that's a controversial selection at number one. 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: To you, No, not at all. I think he's a 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: really good player and you know, depending on your scheme, 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: he's an outside linebacker, he's a you know, a defensive end, 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: So I mean he is a defense of lineman. Number two, 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: he as his Travis Hunter, and he likes him more 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: as a wide receiver than a than a defensive back. 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Other people are split on that, but there this is 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: the possibility that somebody had give him a chance to 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: do both. At three is where this gets interesting. He 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: has Astrion Jenty at number three. 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know I think that uh you know, and 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: he compares him to a mixture of Dalvin Cook and JK. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: Dobbins. 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: Look, I like both those guys. I was happy to see. 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: I think JK. Dobbins, you know, has a has a 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: reputation for being a really good guy, and so I 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: was happy to see him, you know, get through a 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 3: season finally. 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be comeback player of the year. 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to show what he was capable of doing. 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: It could be like comeback player of the last three years. 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And Dalvin cooks a terrific player. 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: You know, when his prime, he was a terrific player. 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if I go there with a third pick, 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: but again, we'll see it. 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: Only he's just he's not saying he's gonna go number three. 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: He's just ranking the players as he likes them, where 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: he would put them. 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Sure, and I understand that. And maybe he'll be right. 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be that kind of a player. Uh, and 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: maybe he will be the third best player in this draft. 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: But again, you know, I don't know as I and 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm you know, conflating the two obviously, draft and rankings, 68 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: but you know, I'll be interested to see where he 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: goes in the draft. 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: And again I've already been asked, like, you know, for 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: the Steelers at twenty one, if Ashton Genty is there, 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: would you take him? Like, well, first I need to 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: know who else is available. But secondly, I do think 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: that he is a very very talented player. But this 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: is a very deep running back draft as well, so 76 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: I would need to know who else is is, you know, 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: on the board at that point. 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: I agree, I would say this, you know, again your 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: evalue if your evaluation, going back to our earlier discussion, well, 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, I think defensive line is if he's. 81 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: One of your top five guys regardless of position, then yeah, 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: you probably end up taking him because he's going to 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: be higher up on your board than anybody else. It 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: would be there presumably unless there's one of those other 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: guys fall. 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 3: Right, And if your evaluations say this guy is Barkley 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: right right, then I think that's a very very difficult 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: guy to follow to pass up because again, think about 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: what kind of effect an impact that could have on 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: your team. 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely at four he as Mason Graham, the defensive tackle 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: out of Michigan. So there's your your first defensive tackle. 93 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: But two defensive linemen in the top four. At five 94 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: is Tyler Warren, the tight end out of Penn State, 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: and I look at him as more of the brock 96 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: Bauers type of just don't put a te nex to 97 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: his name, just put pass catcher. 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: Well, and again, you know, you know the Raiders and 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: the guy they took uh uh not Bowers the year before, 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: whose name is escaping me. 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: We did do their game. 102 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: You'd think that that would eliminate the need for them 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: to take brock Bowers. But when the Raiders had the 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: opportunity to take brock Bowers after having drafted a tight end, 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: it GUIDs them off the field issues but wound up 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: coming back that gives them a pair of, you know, 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: terrific tight ends. That's you know that a guy like 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: Tyler Warren. 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: Again, I don't think he's going to get. 110 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: To the Steelers, but it would be nice to see 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: him take up a draft position because I don't see 112 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: that as a position to need for the Steelers. 113 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. At six is jaylem Walker, the edge rusher out 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: of Georgia. So and again three defensive linemen in the 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: first six picks. At seven, he has Colston lovelin the 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: tight end out of Michigan. So two tight ends in 117 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: his top seven, which we know that those guys aren't 118 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: going to go in the top seven picks. 119 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so unless, like you said, with Brock Bowers, 120 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean, that guy is just a terrific player. If 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: you thought you were getting that, you know, and again 122 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: we talk about setting trends and chasing trends, and if 123 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: you think, wow, we have the next Brock Bowers, you 124 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: know he can this guy can you know, block for 125 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: us a little bit in the in the running games, 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: so he helps us there and then he obviously helps 127 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: us with huge mismatches in the passing game. You know, 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: what is your quarterback situation do you have? I mean, 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: look at what Bowers did in the quarterback position with 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: the Raiders. Probably easier to take advantage of a great 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: tight end for a quarterback who's not quite there yet 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: or or young. 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: Or nice safety valve. 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, nice safety valve versus you know that great outside 135 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: receiver in which you have to do a number of 136 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: different things to get into the ball. So again I 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: agree with you, I wouldn't expect those guys to go 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: top seven. But to me, if if that's too, guys 139 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: taken before the Steelers. 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: I'm happy with that. 141 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: At eight, he has Will Campbell, the LSU offensive tackle. 142 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: At nine Jade Barron, Texas cornerback, and he's kind of 143 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: like Brian branch was a couple of years ago. You 144 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: can play him inside, you can play him outside. He 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: can even play some safety for you. So those guys 146 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: have value as well to your defense, and he's an 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: interesting guy there. We finally get to the first quarterback 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: at ten. He has cam Ward at ten and then 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders at eleven. Now we know those two guys 150 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: are probably gonna go much higher than that because everybody's 151 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: chasing the quarterbacks, so that's just how that's going to go. 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: At twelve, Will Johnson, the cornerback out of Michigan. At 153 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: thirteen is Jihad Campbell, the Alabama linebacker. Then you've got 154 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Todd Booker, interior offensive lineman out of Alabama, and some 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: of those guys. Matt and I've talked a lot about 156 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: this over the last week. The guys who are interior 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: offensive linemen tend to get pushed down the board a 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: little bit because of the way that the fifty year 159 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: option is now utilized. Because the way that the league 160 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: does the fifth year option, all offensive linemen are considered 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: the same, so your interior offensive lineman. So, for example, 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens are going to have to pick up 163 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: the fifty year option on on Tyler Linderbaum, who's a 164 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: multi time Pro bowler. Now, so the way that that 165 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: works now, because he's made a couple of Pro Bowls, 166 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: the fifty year option on Tyler Linderbaum rob is twenty 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: five million dollars. Wow, twenty five million dollars for a center. 168 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: Wow. 169 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: Because he gets the top value. He gets the value 170 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: of the of the top offensive lineman in the league, 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: and therefore he gets paid like an offensive tackle. 172 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can see. I guess you know. 173 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: The argument would be, look, you want the players to 174 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: do it's best for the team and be recompensed accordingly, 175 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: but compensated accordingly. 176 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: But you know. 177 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: It is so look you have a guy like look 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: at Troy Fautanu, right, so you think, okay, he's a tackle, 179 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: but boy he could slide inside and be a heck 180 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: of a guard for us. Well, is he gonna balk 181 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: at that? Because it's gonna cost him huge money for 182 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: that fifth year option it doesn't that I said it doesn't. Well, 183 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying it doesn't. So that's the argument, maybe maybe 184 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: one of the arguments for lumping them all together and 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: classifying them all together. But it seems, you know, I mean, 186 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: it seems kind of a silly way to do it 187 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: to me. 188 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, at fifteen, you get your first wide receiver, that's 189 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: that Tetoroa McMillan out of Arizona. Then we get to 190 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: sixteen another edge rusher, MIKEL Williams out of Georgia. Seventeen 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: is armand memb interior offensive lineman out of Missouri, and 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: you get eighteen Kenneth Grant, the Michigan defensive tackle. And 193 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: he's he's interesting to me because he's kind of a 194 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: He's a three four nose is what he would be 195 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: for the Steelers in well, let me just say that, 196 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, the two thousand and one draft, to our 197 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: point about defense, defense, defense, that was a game changer 198 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. They took Casey Hampton that year at 199 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: the nose when nobody else was taking those tackles in 200 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: the first round. And Kenneth Grant is that kind of dude, 201 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: So keep an eye on him. He is not here. 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: He was at the Shrine Bowl. He didn't come to 203 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. So I know they had guys out 204 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: there watching those those players as well. 205 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: By the way, if you tell me that's the Steelers pick, 206 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm happy, really happy with. You know, a Casey Hampton 207 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: came into time when I think only five teams were 208 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: playing to three four and being you know, talk about 209 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: being in front of a trend. The students were way 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: in front of a trend that I'm taking Casey Hampton 211 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: because they could because no other teams were looking for 212 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: that type of player, that nose tackle type of guy. 213 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: And eat up blocks. And you know, now they asked 214 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: the nose tackle to do things a little differently. Now. 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: They do want him to be able to rush the 216 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: passer a little bit. So you get the Javon Hargraves, 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: you get the Keanu Bentons, and this kid can do 218 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: those kind of things as well. He's really athletic. I 219 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: think he's gonna blow up the combine and really shock 220 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: people with his movement skills. For a guy who's that big. 221 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: I suspect he won't be there for the Steelers. 222 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: I don't know, because again, you know, the nose tackle. 223 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: You know how many teams are looking for a true 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: nose and maybe some teams view him differently than that. 225 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: We'll see. But at nineteen is Calvin Banks, the offensive 226 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: tackle from Texas. At twenty James Pierce, junior edge rusher 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: out of Tennessee So another defensive lineman type. Nick Emuwori, 228 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: South Carolina safety is at twenty one. He is a monster, 229 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: like six three, two hundred and thirty pounds and he's 230 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: going to run well, do all that stuff. At twenty 231 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: two Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle out of Oregon. Mike 232 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Persudo will know all about him because he was a 233 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: transfer from Michigan State, so there'll be some love there. 234 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: At twenty three Mike Green, the edge rusher out of 235 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: Marshall So another defensive lineman type. At twenty four is 236 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, the Texas wide receiver, followed by a Mecca Eggbuka, 237 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: the wide receiver out of Ohio State. Then you have 238 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Walter Nolan. He's an interesting guy. He's here at the 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl rob at of Mississippi and he's a shade 240 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: over six three. He weighed in the other day here 241 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: at two hundred and ninety three pounds. I'm sure, you know, 242 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: depends on what they are, how much he's had to 243 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: eat that day. He's you know, three hundred pounds or 244 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: two ninety somewhere in that range. Looks like a Steelers 245 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: defensive you know, three four defensive end. And he is disruptive. 246 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: I mean he just his practice yesterday, he was in 247 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: the afternoon session. He's on the American squad. He just 248 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: gets after it. So he's an interesting guy that you know, 249 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: could be a potential down the road replacement for Cam 250 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Heyward or someone like that. Shamar Stewart out of Texas 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: A and M. They list him as an edge here, 252 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: but he's a two hundred and ninety pound edge. He's 253 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: he's he is a big dude. He was supposed to 254 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: be here at the at the Senior Bowl and had 255 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: to pull out. But he's six six, two hundred and 256 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: ninety pounds, you know, just a big, big guy. And 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: you got Donovan Azeruku, the edge rusher out of Boston College. 258 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Again another outside linebacker type, but very productive last year, 259 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: sixteen and a half sacks. He's at twenty eight. Twenty 260 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: nine is Amarion Hampton, the running back out of North 261 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: Carolina and he's the guy that would change your offense 262 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: as well. I mean he's got some speed. He's got he's, 263 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, two hundred and twenty pounder with speed and 264 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: the ability to get outside. A good a good football 265 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: player that would be very attractive if you go that route. 266 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't don't you think, by the way, and that 267 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: is what you know. 268 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin was asked about the the similarities between Derreck 269 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: Henry and sa Quon Barkley, and he said, really, there's 270 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: not that many similarities except for this. If they get 271 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: in the open field, see you later. Yeah, I mean 272 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: you're not gonna catch him. Yeah, it would, and that's 273 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: really what you need at that. I mean, I think nausea. 274 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: Harris has been a very good football player for the Steelers, 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: you know, and I know people he's a bust. He's 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: he's had four straight thousand yard seasons. He's never missed 277 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: a game. He's been very durable, he's dependable. As you 278 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: mentioned previously, he doesn't fumble a lot. 279 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: There. 280 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: He's just a lot there to like about him. But 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: he doesn't have that breakaway speed. 282 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Steelers need, you know, when you think about 283 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: explosive play guys. There's a little bit of that with 284 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: Jalen Warren, There's a lot of that with George Pickens. 285 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: There are there are guys you can utilize. Pat Fryermouth 286 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: is a really good football player. Darnell Washington's a big, strong, 287 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: physical guy that you can utilize. You know, Calvin Austin 288 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: has a little bit of that game breaking ability. But man, 289 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: I think that they need, you know, for this offense 290 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: to outside of the quarterback position, a running back that 291 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: can that can have that kind of capability. 292 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: To touch the ball. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to touch 293 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: the ball twenty times a game to scares the Bejesus 294 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: out of the defense, right. 295 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you know we were talking about that down 296 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Every time Bijon Robinson touched the ball. I 297 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: mean that guy could glide for five yards and you 298 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: think he got five yards you know, he he does. 299 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: He makes you hold your breath. Uh. 300 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: And to have a player like that that a team 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: has to account for, you know, maybe loosen things up 302 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: a little bit defensively, or maybe they try to tighten 303 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: things up. Whi's loosening things up on the edge for 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: you You know, there's a lot of ways that a 305 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: player like that can help you. But I think that 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: dale when they look at the receiver position in the 307 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: running back position, I think that's that explosive playability is 308 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: something that I suspect they're going to be looking for 309 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: at both those positions. 310 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Just watching one of the players we're going 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: to talk about here in a minute on this list 312 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: who has just had a great rep as a defensive tackle. Here, 313 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle out of Ohio State, number thirty. 314 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: He's got Donovan Jackson his teammate the interior. He plays 315 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: both interior. He played some left tackle this year as 316 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: well for Ohio State. Donovan Jackson at thirty one. Thirty 317 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: two is Luther Burden, the wide receiver out of Missouri. 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Then he got Malachi Starks, the Georgia safety at thirty three. 319 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Judkins at thirty four, another big, bruising running 320 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: back that you know would fit well. I think he's 321 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: got a little more juice than what Nujie Harris is, 322 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: but he is a powerful, just hard running players. He's 323 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: more Jylem Warren, I think type that just bounces off 324 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: the tacklers and things of that nature. Then you have 325 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: our third tight end, Mason Taylor out of LSU at 326 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: thirty five. Thirty six is Trevion Henderson, the other Ohio 327 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: State running back, and he's more of the speedball catches 328 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: the ball. Well, then you get the Carson Swesssinger, the 329 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: UCLA linebacker at number thirty seven, Josh Connery who is 330 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: here at the Senior Bowl at the thirty eight offensive 331 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: tackle out of Georgia, and the guy that I just mentioned, 332 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: Josh Farmer, Florida State defensive tackle at thirty nine on 333 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: DJ's rankings. 334 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: And this is a guy that is. 335 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Really growing under rob If you start looking at his 336 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: miserables here, it's just a shade over six three. But 337 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: also you look to the guy that that is three 338 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen pounds, he is a just a bowling 339 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: ball of energy. And uh is a guy that is 340 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: kind of intriguing to me as a potential nose tackle 341 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: slash get some Keanu Benton type traits, let's put it 342 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: that way. 343 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: Well again, that's that works for me. 344 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: And you know, as we look down this list, I 345 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: think there are you know, several positions in which the 346 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: Steelers are probably not going to be interested in taking 347 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: guys tight ends that you mentioned, what three or four 348 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: tight ends edge rushers? You know how nice it is? 349 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: Is it that again you obviously have you know, TJ. Watt, 350 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: but that you're able to go out and get a 351 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: high smith in the third round, You're able to go 352 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: out and get a herbig later in the draft and 353 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: kind of you know, So teams are looking to spend 354 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: top picks on those disruptive type of guys, and I 355 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: don't I think that. And look, that's that's what you 356 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: need in the in the game to be productive. And 357 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: this dude's have those guys, I don't think. Look, if 358 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: one falls in your lap, I'm not even sure. You know, 359 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: all things are never equal, you know those Hey, if 360 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: all things were equal, would you take a running back 361 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: and receiver? Well, all things are never equal. But I 362 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: think that those are positions they can ignore while other 363 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: teams are gobbling those guys up. Guys that you want 364 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: could be sliding to you in the draft. So I 365 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: love seeing this list. I love seeing all these guys 366 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: ranked above these defensive tackles, and I love seeing four 367 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: or five guys in the top thirty nine ranking who 368 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: would fit in beautifully for the Steelers. 369 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 370 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: Forty is Jack Sawyer, the edge rusher out of Ohio 371 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: State for him, and he got forty one Jackson Dart, 372 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Ole Miss who is here at 373 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. Another guy who's here at the Senior Bowl, TJ. Sanders, 374 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: the defensive tackle out of South Carolina, and I believe 375 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: he would be more of a three to four end 376 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. Very very good football player as well. 377 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: He had a nice day yesterday as well. He's sixty 378 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: three in three quarters, so almost almost sixty four. He 379 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: weighed in at two eighty four. Obviously could put on 380 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: some some weight at almost sixty four. Uh, but he 381 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: is a you know, has that look about him. Forty 382 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: three is ASII, A Thomas cornerback out of Florida State. 383 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: He's here at the Senior Bowl as well. Six foot 384 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: two cornerbacks. You like, You like those guys as well. 385 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: A good football player there. And you got Maxwell Harston 386 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: out of Kentucky another cornerback who is here at the 387 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. He's five eleven, about one hundred and ninety pounds, 388 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: more of the classic cornerback size, but uh, he is 389 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: a feisty player and had a nice day yesterday. Uh 390 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: forty five is Benjamin Morris in the cornerback out of 391 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. He was hurt to end the season, but 392 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: again another six foot two cornerback that you know, these 393 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: guys don't grow on trees. He's a very good football player. 394 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Josiah Stewart out of Michigan and edge rushers for the 395 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: for the Wolverines. And you got Marcus Mumbai from Purdue 396 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: offensive tackle. He is here at the Senior Bowl as well. 397 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: Another guy here who is here is Gray Sable. Uh 398 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: North North Dakota State offensive linemen. Those guys have done 399 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: very well. Those North Dakota State, South Dakota State guys 400 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: in the in the pros, they just always seem to 401 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: hit for whatever reason. I don't know what they do 402 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: up there to grow their offensive lineman, but they always 403 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: just seem to have them. 404 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a questions for Dale, Yeah. 405 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: So would you think about you know, probably not in 406 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: the first three rounds, but boy, I mean look at 407 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: what they did with Mason McCormick. If you felt like 408 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: you could get an offensive lineman and maybe the fourth 409 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: round that slid to you. I know that people will 410 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: be like, wait a minute, we've witched all that. All 411 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: we've been drafting is offensive lineman. I don't think you 412 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: should hesitate if you could find a guy in that 413 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: in a spot that can help you. There couple this 414 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: year to continue to add to the offensive. 415 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 2: Line, you're gonna lose some guys in free agency this year. 416 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: So you gotta keep restocking that position because you don't 417 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: want it to be as you saw this year. I 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: mean they started four different lineups. Uh, in their first 419 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: what six games on the offensive line, they had four guys. 420 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: Four different guys made their first career starts on the 421 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: offensive line, So right, yeah, you can't have enough guys there. 422 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: Also, we were just really cool. 423 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: We were lotting their depth down to Dylan Cook in 424 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: camp last year and thinking, man, it's just a deep group. 425 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: Wow. 426 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: Uh Cook got injured, herbig got injured, Daniels got injured, 427 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: and next thing you know, you're just you're you know, 428 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: you're you're pushing guys around all over the place, and 429 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, Foutanhu got injured, and so yeah, you went 430 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: from wow, we have incredible depth to Holy mackerel, another 431 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: different starting offensive line combination. So yeah, I don't think 432 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: you can. And I think that's the that's the philosophy. 433 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: Let's get really big people. And we saw Dale that 434 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: they're not ready for that yet. They're not ready to 435 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: to absolutely one lineup on the offensive and defensive lines 436 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: and shove it down people's throat or or dictate what 437 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: you want to do defensively. So and I think that's 438 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: what they want to be, the kind of team they 439 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: want to be. 440 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, At forty nine as Elijah Rojo, a fourth 441 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: tight end in the top forty nine here for Daniel Jeremiah. 442 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: He's a guy that's here and had a nice day yesterday. 443 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: And then at fifty for Daniel Jeremiah, al Ford Collins 444 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: out of Texas, another defensive tackle. He's another big dude 445 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: that he might be. He could be a nose, he 446 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: could be an outside guy. I'm not sure yet on him. 447 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: Need to watch more tape of that. But again, a 448 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: lot of big bodies in Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty at 449 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: this point. 450 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: Works for me. 451 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: Bring them up, yeah, bring them on. Anyways, we're gonna 452 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: get to a break. He is rob King. I am 453 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: Dale Lolly, I am live down here at the Senior 454 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: Bowl at Hancock Whitney Stadium. The practice is going on 455 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: here as we speak, but we'll be back with more 456 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: on the Drive right after this. 457 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: As he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 458 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 459 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation. 460 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: Radio, and we're back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the 461 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: rob king back in Pittsburgh. I am here at the 462 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, and the American or the 463 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: national team is practicing as we speak here. And uh 464 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 2: just got done with the offensive slash defensive line drills 465 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: there and there was a big just a it was 466 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: like a bowl in the ring kind of thing where 467 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: all the coaches and scouts were just circling those guys 468 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: and watching, you know, these guys go at it and 469 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: a lot of one on one reps there, really good stuff. 470 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin right on top of that. 471 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: Of course, of course it is interesting. He just cover 472 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: you out. 473 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: He'll he'll yeah the report and I've never been there, 474 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: but the reports that he'll he'll pull a hey, I 475 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: want to see this this receiver against this defensive back. 476 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: Let's go, let's have at it. Uh, it's Uh, it's 477 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: hands on him. Like you said Dale at the top 478 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: of this program, Uh, you know, an hour and you know, 479 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: twenty eight minutes ago whatever it was that. You know, 480 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 3: the Steelers draft guys from the Senior Bowl. They are 481 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: they are uh, you know, there's the chances are very 482 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: very good that at least one player from that group 483 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: is going to be drafted by the Steelers. 484 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and last year it was four. 485 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: So you know, just. 486 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: There's there's there's something to this. I mean, your your 487 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: head coach doesn't come here and spend a couple of 488 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: days walking around the field here just to be seen, right, 489 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: he is here gathering information. Omar Con is here, Arthur 490 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 2: Smith is here, Uh, Terrell Austin is here, and these 491 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: guys are all on the field watching different position groups, 492 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: and you know they're gathering information on these guys and 493 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: and it's it's hands on information because you don't get 494 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: the opportunity to see these guys, you know, for the 495 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: coaching staff in particular, they don't get to go to this, 496 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 2: to this the summer practices or the spring you know necessarily, uh, 497 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: to watch these guys practice and see their practice habits 498 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: and see who's who's the alpha here, uh right, and 499 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: in this in this situation, you've got a bunch of 500 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: guys who were probably the alpha males at their schools, 501 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: their particular schools, all of them, all of them, right, 502 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: And so now who's who's the Who's the alpha male 503 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: among the alpha males, Who's the Who's the guy that 504 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: everybody else is going to follow, Who's the guy that's 505 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: that's setting the tone that kind of stuff. 506 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think my favorite part of the weekly Mike 507 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: Tomlin press conference is when he begins to break down 508 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 3: the other team and you can see and hear how 509 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: much he loves the coaching and evaluation uh part of 510 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 3: his job, and how into it he is, and how 511 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: much he's part of the decision making and you know, he'll, man, 512 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: we were looking at this guy coming at Alcorn State. 513 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: We really liked him, you know, and you'll talk about 514 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: it took him, he had dinner with his parents, and 515 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it is it's my favorite part of the 516 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: press conference every week because you can't, uh, you know, 517 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: you can't hide the love that he has for that 518 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: part of the job. I mean, it's it's it's evident 519 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: that he really relishes, you know, being down there and 520 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: talking to these guys and getting to know him and 521 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: scouting them, and it's it's a big part of what 522 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: he does and a big part of what he. 523 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: Enjoys, absolutely, and you know, it's all part of the 524 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: coaching process. It's you know, finding talent and acquiring talent. 525 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: You know, he only gets man. The draft is only 526 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: seven rounds deep, you know, so can you find the 527 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: right guys to fit into your program? And it's it's 528 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: somewhat of a guessing game at times. You don't know 529 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: some of the intangibles. You don't know what's going on 530 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: in the guy's head. You don't, but you can see 531 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: the physical attributes. But you can gather some information regarding 532 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: what you believe are his intangibles in situations like this, 533 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: like you can look at a scouting report and Okay, 534 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: he's got the size, he's got the speed. You know, 535 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: he hear his stats from college and here's what we 536 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: thought of him. But I think the actual being able 537 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: to be on the field, the guy work talk to 538 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: the guy goes a long way towards you know, in 539 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: the scouting process. 540 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing is, you know, one of the 541 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: things that again this tutors have done well throughout the years. 542 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be down in clear Water this weekend, 543 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: and you know, Darren Perry and Ernie Mills are going 544 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: to be down there and part of his tutors event 545 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: with the radio network. So I'll try not to get 546 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: to sun tanned while I'm down there. That way nice 547 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: to get out of the cold. But I'm looking it, 548 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, Darren Perry, And you mentioned the draft is 549 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: only seven rounds. Well, he was an eighth round pick, yeah, 550 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: you know, And yeah, he was an All American at 551 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: Penn State. It wasn't like he was unknown. But in 552 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: today's NFL, he wouldn't have even been been undrafted. He'd 553 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: have been an undrafted guy. And he started his very 554 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: first game as an eighth round pick. And I think 555 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: the Steelers have always done a very very good job, 556 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 3: you know, James Harrison, Jalen Warren, I mean, Beanie Bishop 557 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: starting a bunch of games this year of identifying guys 558 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: who aren't drafted and then not playing the CYA game. Well, 559 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: we got to play this guy because we we spent 560 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: a draft pick on him. No, we're gonna play this 561 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: guy because he's the best guy. But think about that 562 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: and Darren Perry, for those of you that don't remember, 563 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: he played with Rod Woodson for several years. He was 564 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: He's i think seventh all time still in the interception 565 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: list for the Steelers, a really fine player, and they 566 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: got him in the eighth round, which again would mean 567 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: they would have. 568 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: Got the existigations. 569 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, today's game, Vinny Testaverdi was several of those interceptions 570 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: by Darren as I recall, he uh he had a 571 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: penchant or a knack for picking off Vinnie testa Verdi 572 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. But yeah, Darren Perry was a very 573 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: good football player former Steelers coach as well. So yep, yeah, 574 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: he was, you know. 575 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: Part of that early Bill Kauer and success, part of 576 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: and part of why this scouting and development and it 577 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: begins with the scouting and then trying to figure out, 578 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: you know, can we develop the guy? Is there upside here? 579 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, if if he's got an off the field issue, 580 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: what is that issue? What kind of character does he have? 581 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: If he doesn't have an off the field issue, what 582 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: kind of character does he have? All those things are 583 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: super important, not just for the seven guys, but again 584 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: we just we just saw it this year, you know, 585 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: and you know we saw it was a fun guy. 586 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: You know, one of our camp darlings was Julian Welshoff, 587 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: you know, coming out of the international program. But you know, 588 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: the ability to and then he got injured. But the 589 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: ability to find guys in the draft, and the studers 590 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: have had two extremely well regarded draft classes in a row, 591 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: but then also to be able to find those guys 592 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: beyond the draft that can come in and be contributors 593 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: for you. It is there's really no other way to 594 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: get it done. I mean, everybody and the students have 595 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: been more receptive i think to spending big money in 596 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: free agency. We saw it last year with Patrick Queen 597 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: than perhaps they ever have been. You know, usually in 598 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: the past it was hey, let's find a key moov 599 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: on all Hoffin or that, you know, that type of player. 600 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: Ryan Clark obviously was a terrific player. But guys that 601 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: can kind of fit into our system and we can 602 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: get some value there. And we're going to spend our 603 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: money in the draft and then keep those guys when 604 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: they come up for contract extensions to keep that continuity. 605 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: But to be able to. 606 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: Find those guys later and have them be part of 607 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: that mix has always been an important part. 608 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: Of their success. Absolutely, absolutely, So let's get to another rak. 609 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: He is Rob King. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening 610 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Of course, 611 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: you can hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from 612 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: four to six pm on these very airwaves. You can 613 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: also download the Steelers Mobile app and get the show 614 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: downloaded to your phone. 615 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: There. 616 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: But Matt, Yeah, Matt, I've got Matt on the brain here. Man, 617 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: let me tell you. I don't tell you. It's like 618 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: it's like part of my arm has been cut off. 619 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: Here, it really is. Yeah, I'm sorry on the acts. 620 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you stepping in here and pinchiating for 621 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: Matt today. Rob King back in Pittsburgh. I'm Dale Lolly 622 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: here at the Senior Bowl. We'll be back with more 623 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: right after this. 624 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 625 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 626 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation. 627 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: Radio, and we our back. I am Dale Lolly. He 628 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: is the Rob King published author and uh the Door 629 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: in the Stone, Door Stone, there's. 630 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 4: Going to be at Riverstone Books here in Pittsburgh. Bookstore. 631 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: You go check it out and uh, you know, bring 632 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: it to training camp with you. Rob will sign it 633 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: for you absolutely. 634 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: Now you're talking, Dale, Now you're talking. I will sign 635 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: it for. 636 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: You, gladly, gladly, bring two copies. You'll sign them both. 637 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: That's right, you bring it outside it. 638 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: So just kind of wrapping things up here for today 639 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: here at the Senior Bowl and uh uh, just watching 640 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin down on the fielder chatting with with one 641 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: of the running backs down there, Donovan Edwards at a Michigan. 642 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: He just made one of the linebackers here looks silly 643 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: in a one on one drill, just completely completely broke 644 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: his ankles on it, just snapped them off. The guy 645 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: fell down and doctor Edwards just not a good The 646 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: crowd went, ooh, one of those kind of plays. 647 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: Fun stuff. Are they still? 648 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: So? 649 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: When will they? How long are the practices down there? 650 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: Dale? They are two hours? So the first team comes 651 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: in the national team is here first. They come in 652 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: and start at nine to thirty and go to eleven thirty. 653 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Then there's about a half an hour in between, and 654 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: the second group comes in and goes from twelve to two. 655 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: Wow, So a lot going on. 656 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we get ten minutes on the field 657 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: with these guys as soon as the practice ends, and 658 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: they are very prompt about that ten minutes. They put 659 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: the ten minutes on the studio or the stadium clock 660 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: and there's a countdown. And of course there are about 661 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: oh though one thousand media members here, and they all 662 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: are When I say media, I'm using quotes because what 663 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: has become the media is, you know, everybody bloggers and 664 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: radio hosts and TV people. It's just there's just like 665 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: cacophony of just noise media type here. Yeah, and so 666 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: they all want a piece of these guys. So you're 667 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: just kind of jumping around trying to get who you 668 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: can get, right, and you. 669 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: Are you know, and you know I've done I've been 670 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: to Super Bowls and you know, so there, you know, 671 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: a player will be at a table or something, or 672 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, you're trying to maybe find hey, listen, I 673 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: can go get some sound from this defensive tackle because 674 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: there's only one guy talking to him. But that one 675 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: guy's from his hometown paper, right, and it's standing directly 676 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: in front of him and asking him about his you know, 677 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: and listen, now, I have a great deal of respect 678 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: for that, right, Like the hometown paper wants the story 679 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 3: on those guys. Right, You're like, man, I just want 680 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 3: to ask one question. Could I please ask my question 681 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: and move on to the next person? So you never know, uh, 682 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: And you have to be versatile, much like you do 683 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: in the drafts. Are you are you after a particular 684 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 3: player Dale or are you gonna be You're gonna show 685 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: some versatility and say, hey, if this guy's not available, 686 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on to player BS. 687 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: You gotta being to pivot, rob, You gotta you can't 688 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: just go with one plan. You have to have multiple 689 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: to your point, because you just don't know. I mean, now, 690 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 2: I've been to Super Bowls, for example, when the Steelers 691 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: weren't in it, and you know the first one I went, 692 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: I went in James Harrison had just joined the Patriots. 693 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: I had to go get James Harrison. 694 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 4: Sure. 695 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: I mean, there was no infians or butts, and I 696 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: was searching high and low for James Harrison at that point. 697 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: And then it was media day, media night, and there's 698 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: just Super Bowl. There's fifteen hundred people there to talk 699 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: to the players, maybe two thousand or twenty five hundred. 700 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: I don't even know, and I'm trying to sift through 701 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: it and trying to find James Harrison, and I finally 702 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: saw him. It's the only time James Harrison ever smiled 703 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: at me. You know, he was happy, he was actually 704 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: happy to see somebody that he knew, and we had 705 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: a nice chat. But yeah, you know, that's just the 706 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: way these things go. It's, you know, you gotta have 707 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: a you have a plan, but you don't necessarily you 708 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: better have multiple plans because you just don't know how 709 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna go. And that's the other thing here is 710 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: like there are also got you know, agents and people 711 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: of that nature here who are here to talk to 712 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: these guys. You know, there's a lot of you know, 713 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: just things ancillary things like insurance, you know, people who 714 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: handle insurance and things of that nature. They're they're trying 715 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: to sell their awares to these guys or financial planners 716 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: and things of that nature. So it's a uh, it's 717 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: it's a very big group of people who head onto 718 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: the field to talk to these guys. As soon as 719 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: these practices end. 720 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 3: Well good luck and are you are you targeting anyone 721 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: in particular? We're gonna have to wait to uh to 722 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: see it. 723 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: On still you have to wait and see on the 724 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: on Steelers dot Com tipic more targeting positions and and 725 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: guys that catch my eye in that regard. But uh, certainly, uh. 726 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: You know, yesterday I talked to pretty much all the 727 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who are here and and you know right about 728 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: that spot. 729 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: Uh. 730 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: But we'll continue to uh cover the practices and you know, 731 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: again just my opinion on this stuff. Nothing that you 732 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: know from the Steelers. It's it's concrete or anything like that, 733 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: but just my observations, yep. 734 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 735 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: And you know, a fascinating part of the draft process. 736 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: And you know, people bringing up Jalen Hurts, right, Hey, 737 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: can you get that quarterback in the second round? 738 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: What are you gonna do at the quarterback position? 739 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: And you know, do you want uh if you decide, 740 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: let's for example, go with justin fields, do you do 741 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: you pick a guy in the draft, one of those 742 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 3: guys that's down there at the Senior Bowl to potentially 743 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: be you know, that backup who plays a similar style 744 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: so you don't have to Hey, somebody goes down with 745 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: an injury and all of a sudden, you're on the 746 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: on the fly in the middle of the game you 747 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: have to completely change what you're doing or is that 748 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: less important to you than quality players. It's all, uh, 749 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: you know, the team building part of it and and 750 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: these things like this, Dale and the work you're doing 751 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 3: now there just fascinating for the people that it just 752 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: love that part of the game as I do. I 753 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 3: just I just think the team building aspect of the 754 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 3: game is just endlessly fascinating. 755 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. But Kinger, Yes, certain, that's gonna do it for 756 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: the show today. 757 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: I'm I appreciate you coming on. 758 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: We already know you're always you're always young ho to 759 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: do more. I understand that. Uh, but uh, we gotta 760 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: end we we you know, can't keep Justin here forever. No, 761 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: he does a bang up job. But uh for my 762 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: partner here, Rob king back in Pittsburgh, for Justin Miller 763 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: running the Justin Miller Hotline and getting us Bob Labriola 764 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: on the on the hotline today, I am Dale Lolly 765 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: here live at the Senior Bowl. You can check out 766 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: the coverage of that on Steelers dot Com. That's gonna 767 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: do it for today's episode. Up the Drive on the 768 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.