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He's got nearly five point 44 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: three million dollars in guaranteed money left on his deal. 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: The university said in the statement it would honor the 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: terms of his contract. And so now there's all sorts 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: of speculation out there about, you know, what Hubert Davis 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: and what the North Carolina future is going to look 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: like and why the move was made. And look, Hubert 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: Davis has been there a long time. He had early success. 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: You know. Ultimately they lost Caleb Wilson to an injury, 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: so that was a big concern for them going into 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: the tournament. And then you saw the way things played out, 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and then furthermore, you saw how awkward things were for 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Hubert Davis after the loss over the weekend, and we 56 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: played some of the sound on Monday where he just 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: didn't really have a whole lot of answers. There just 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: wasn't really a whole lot of clarity, not really a 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: whole lot of understanding as to, hey, so what's going 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: on here? And you look at his first initial run 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: with North Carolina and you go, man, this guy came in. 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: He was firing on all cylinders, etc. 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Etc. 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, it all just sorts sort 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: of falls apart. He beats Mike Skrzewski in Shrzewski's final 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: game as duke head coach. There was a lot of 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: momentum and next thing you know, here we are Hubert Davis, 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: all these years later, is out of a job. But 69 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you if it looks bad 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: and the optics are bad and people are making comments 71 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: about the commentary following a game like that at a 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: program like UNC, you're not for long. And there was 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: some speculation this might be the move, and this just 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: goes to show you that the expectations at certain places 75 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: are different. Look, you could come up in a postgame 76 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: press conference at seven to eleven State and talk about, Yeah, 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what happened, men, I don't really 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: know why we can't hit free throws. I'm not really sure. 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what the issue was. I don't 80 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: really you can come up and say all that, and 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: all that's fine, no big deal. And the next thing, 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're at North Carolina and you say that, 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: seventy two hours later, you're out of a job. And 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: we're sitting here reading Bracket Challenge updates, letting you know 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: who's on top of the leader board, and you won't 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: have to worry about North Carolina being one of the 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: picks to get you through, because not only are they out, 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: but now they're head coaches out as well too. And 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: this comes with the expectations, especially nowadays with nil and 90 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: everything that comes along with college sports and college athletic 91 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: to where it's never good enough. At certain programs. It's 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: just not he lost a potential top five pick in 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the draft going into the tournament, but that all's forgotten 94 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: and there's been some awkwardness and things like that. And 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, they were lucky to beat Duke in the 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: regular season when they did, and there was a big 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: shot hit from the corner and at the buzzer, and 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: all of that's fun and all that's great, but the 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: reality is nowadays at programs like that, if you don't 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: show early success, if you don't show that you can 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: get it done. If you don't show the ability to 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: deliver the goods consistently, you're going to be out. We've 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: talked about Mark Pope in Kentucky. We talked about James 104 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: Franklin at Penn State. At certain places, they'll cut you 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of slack. At places like North Carolina, 106 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: not going to happen. And so now North Carolina finds 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: themselves in a spot to where they're looking around going 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: all right, we got to get somebody else in here. 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: We got to find somebody else that can get us 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: to where we need to go, because this has been underwhelming. 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: And I just wonder nowadays, with the way things are 112 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: and the success that schools are having that other schools 113 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: haven't had, I wonder if the term blue blood is 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: really what everybody thinks it has been to where you 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: knew and were able to identify blue blood programs throughout 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: all of college sports. If it was college football, if 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: it was college basketball, you knew who was what man 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: five years ago, if somebody would have told you, hey, 119 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's got blue blood potential Indiana, Kurt Signetti's 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: got blue blood potential, what hey, you know, who might 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: actually get it done? Who might actually, you know, deliver 122 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: the goods Todd Golden and Florida last year. Wait, really, 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Todd Golden was nearly fired last year. People forget that 124 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: there was an investigation. There was some people throwing out 125 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: some claims that Todd Golden was, you know, sending some stuff, 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: be a private message to some female students, and all 127 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the other things that came along with it, And it 128 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: was almost a foregone conclusion that he was going to 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: be gone. And then all of a sudden they realized, 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: following an investigation, Hey, you know, apparently there's not enough here. 131 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: We got to move forward. He goes on, he wins 132 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: the national title, and despite losing to Iowa, over the 133 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: weekend there's conversations about them trying to get another extension 134 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: done with Todd Golden. So I just wonder if we're 135 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: starting to see the change of the landscape, the change 136 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: of the expectations, and the change of the reality that 137 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Nils brought everybody toward. Nowadays, you're going to look back 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: and go, hey, that's school that program. Who was the 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: blue blood, who was the goods for all those years? Man, 140 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: maybe that's all changed now. Maybe it is about eight 141 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Is there enough money coming from boosters. Is there enough 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: money in our nil system? Texas Tech is loading in 143 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of money for their football team. You saw 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: what Indiana did, and so now North Carolina, who's been 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: traditionally a blue blood program, finds themselves in a spot 146 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: on the outside. Look at him going, I don't know, 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: we got to make a change. This guy had no 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: answers after we lost a game and looked bad down 149 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the stretching games this season because of good knit free throws. 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: And there's been times where teams all of a sudden 151 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: have popped up out of nowhere. There are Patriots fans 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: walking around who literally have no idea what it's like 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: to know when their team sucked, And there are Patriots 154 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: fans before them were like, you have no clue, how 155 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: good you have it? You got a good man. And 156 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: so I think we're seeing sort of the changing landscape 157 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: in not only college sports but sports in general, where 158 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: people are realizing, all of a sudden, your traditional powerhouses 159 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: may not be your traditional powerhouses anymore, and schools like 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: North Carolina find themselves in a spot where not only 161 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: do they have to figure out a way to find 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: a new head coach, who's going to have answers following 163 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: a loss like that, unlike Hubert Davis did. But they're 164 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: going to have to find somebody else who's going to 165 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: welcome what the new reality of college sports is the 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: new details that come along with being a coach at 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: the college level. Rick Patino talked about this a couple 168 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: of years ago, where Patino said, hey, man, people don't 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: realize that I spend a lot of my time out 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: at dinners trying to sell people on our program. So 171 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: we've got enough funding to be able to compete at 172 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: this level. All of that is part of the conversation. 173 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Now it's a sales job. It's always been a sales job, 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: but it literally is a sales job. 175 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: Now. 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to have the money. You've 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: got to be able to be able to have the 178 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: revenue if you want to compete, and you've got to 179 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: be able to have answers if you come up short 180 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: in a big time game like Hubert Davis did over 181 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the weekend. And that's just a fact. So North Carolina's 182 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: looking for their next guy. Maybe they'll find their next 183 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: guy and he's going to be able to to come 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: in hot and be able to deliver the goods right away, 185 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: like Hubert Davis did when he took out Mike Krzyzewski 186 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: in his final game as head coach at Duke. But 187 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: ultimately the situation in North Carolina obviously at a point 188 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: where Hubert Davis had to be let go and Brady 189 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: Quinn listen, you've been time to the table because you 190 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: want some change in Lexington, in Chapel Hill, they're ready 191 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: to make that change. Hubert Davis got to go, and 192 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: I can see why. 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: You know, You and C has now lived up to 194 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: their standard either. You know you're talking about some of 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: these blue blood programs. We've talked about the nil era 196 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: and how depending on whatever sport you want to talk about, 197 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: a lot of these head coaches have felt the pressure 198 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: to come in and win right now. Some programs have 199 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: figured out, others have not. And You and C has 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: won that, at least in my estimation, has not been 201 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: consistently good enough. But my apologies for some of the 202 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: technical difficulties were facing to I feel like Hubert Davis, 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: you know, my bracket's been so bad. I've been shunned 204 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: to now dealing with a cell phone instead of being 205 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: able to talk in our normal studio. 206 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think at least you might have some 207 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: answers after the show's over, and like he did over 208 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: the weekend because mat listen, we played the sound on Monday, 209 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and when he they were asking may Hubert, what's with 210 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: the free throws, what's with this? What's with the that? 211 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: He just there was no answers. It was almost like, yeah, 212 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, not really sure. Almost. I almost 213 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: wonder if he sense that this was coming as well too, 214 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm going to take my five point 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: six million and I'm just going to walk off into 216 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,479 Speaker 1: the sunset. 217 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: Maybe. And I think the other part of this is 218 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: always whenever things don't go the way you hope as 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: a coach, people want an explanation. It's like, well, I 220 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: could take you through our practice philosity, our practices and 221 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: what they'd look like, and we can talk about what 222 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: we do to prepare for games. Why doesn't translate from 223 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: practice to the game or why is the translator over 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: the years to make our team better? I don't know. 225 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was doing it differently, obviously we'd 226 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: be getting a better result. So that's the funny thing 227 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: to me about everyone wanting answers after the fact. It's like, 228 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: you know, what were you thinking of his play call? Well, 229 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think the guy was going to throw an interception, right, 230 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: I think the player's going to pump with you. There 231 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: is an element of execution that for some reason in 232 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: today's dan age, we've completely let athletes off the hook 233 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: of taking any criticism for their inability to execute or 234 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: make the right decision or you know, be able to 235 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: do with the coach is essentially ask something to do. 236 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a wild time. And you know, now 237 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: North Carolina looks around there's been some speculation. I saw 238 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: one of the early names that was thrown out there 239 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: was Billy Donovan as a potential replacement. I mean, what 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, I just there's there's kind of two 241 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: different parts of this whole thing now to where it's 242 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: a what is It's great that you can welcome somebody 243 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: in that's had success or somebody and that's a familiar face, 244 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: But you know, do we have a plan? What is 245 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: your plan? And I think you guys have seen that, 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, in with Kentucky and Mark Pope, like there's 247 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people fired up about the hiring of him, 248 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Hey John Calipari. However, the exit win and he took 249 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, was it Tyson Chicken money to go over 250 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: to our and saw is that the brand? 251 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: That's sure? 252 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: And then you know, Mark Pope gets in and now 253 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: two years later, it's like, if he doesn't, if he 254 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: doesn't win this next year, they're probably doing the same 255 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: thing North Carolina just did with Hubert Davis. It just 256 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: feels like that, you know, they're cutting the cord so 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: quick now, so you know, I don't know, good luck 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: to North Carolina here again, imagine you know. 259 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: In a world where you do have the advantage of 260 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: anil and you do have a program that has more resource. 261 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: It's always been the bigger programs had the better facilities, 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: they had more resources and obviously nice campus everything else 263 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: out around it. But that was always the advantage maybe 264 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: outside of sect school's paying under the table. Now you've 265 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: got everything above board. And so when you have all 266 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: those advantages plus you're able to commensate these athletes as well, 267 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: if not more so than everyone else. I mean, think 268 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: about the frustration for alumni. I think about the frustration 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: for the university when they're watching all this money go 270 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: into it, and they're not saying the results that they want, 271 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: and that ultimately is what this comes down to. You know, 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: there is a lot of money being put into these programs, 273 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: in particular athletics, and you've seen how oftentimes these athletic 274 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: programs they're running a deficit. I mean there are millions, 275 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: tons of millions of times of dollars in debt, and 276 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: they want to see the results and they know that 277 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: that if they can actually win championships, they can actually 278 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, bring these programs around and get them at 279 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: the top level of that sport. Oftentimes it can help 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: reduce some of that and it can help you carry 281 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: some of that burden when you're not winning and you're 282 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: taking on more debt like that. Yeah, compounds the issues 283 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: that you're school's facing. Yeah. 284 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Could you imagine being one of those people that's thrown 285 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: in a bunch of cash to North Carolina and you 286 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: lose in the tournament like they did, and then your 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: coach is sit there with a couple of ice trying 288 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: to explain why they can't hit free throws. Thanks. Not 289 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: the greatest investment in the world, but hey is what 290 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: it is. And now North Carolina is looking for their next. 291 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: Go get the Raisin Kams guy. You know he's he's 292 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: sponsoring everything now right, here's a billionaire by the. 293 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Way, they'll get him, you guys, I mean, is it 294 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: that good? Is raising Kanes that good? What's the comp 295 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: what is it? 296 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean? 297 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Uh? Bis? 298 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: Is it called PDQ? I think is now the probably Popeyes? 299 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: Just about the chapter of love pankruptcy. Yeah, they just 300 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: charged close like twenty locations. So there's a they're going 301 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: to some rough maybe business. 302 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's too bad. 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So this came out 361 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting for those that have not 362 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: been paying attention. Tommy Tubberville was a politician and really 363 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: going yeah, I mean that tells you everything you need 364 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: to know, and set out the following tweet yesterday that 365 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: said quote, the transfer portal has screwed up college sports. 366 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: My bill is simple. You get five consecutive years to 367 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: play five seasons, and you get one transfer after that. 368 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: If you transfer again, you sit out a year. This 369 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: will fix eighty percent of the issues in NIL today. 370 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: If it's as easy as that, and that fixed, is 371 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: it all? And we could just move on and focus 372 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: on the games? I'm in? Where does that land with you? 373 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: My issue with this entire conversation is, let's just start 374 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: by what he's proposing, and that is five years to 375 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: play five? What has it gone to five years? Like, 376 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: why have we moved the goalpost and changed eligibility rules 377 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: to five years from four? It feels like one of 378 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: those measures that after COVID, we made some concessions in 379 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: our life and we just were willing to say, you 380 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: know what, we're just going to adapt to this, and 381 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: there's there's people who try to push back and go, 382 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: lookquit a second, like were trying to kind of get 383 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: back to where things were. You know, during COVID, you 384 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: gave everyone an extra year because how it impacted all 385 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: those student athletes lives, at least in college. He did 386 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: unfortunate for a lot of the kids who had to 387 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: graduate during that time. In high school, they were in 388 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: a tough spot. But for all those kids in college 389 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: they got an extra year. Well, then they're obviously getting 390 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: a medical rentier year, which that's been unfortunately stretched and 391 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: kind of manipulated to the point where we've got a 392 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: lot of different reasons why people are claiming a medical 393 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: red shirt, and so that was the way of getting 394 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: an additional year, And it feels like we're almost conceding 395 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: to the fact that, all right, we're just going to 396 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: give you five. Well, we're just saying five and that's it. 397 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: It's like, well, where does it stop. Do you think 398 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: that's going to stop a student athlete or an attorney 399 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: or an agent nowadays in the world of nil of 400 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: not trying to get an additional year of eligibility for 401 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: some other reason. I mean, that's that's where we're at now. 402 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: We continually keep making, you know, or changing the rules 403 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: because of how we feel like times have change and 404 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: what we're going to deal with. And it feels like 405 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: almost like a negotiating tactic where he's running on this 406 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: and saying this when it's like, well, why is it five? 407 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 2: Why should it be four? Why has it ever changed? 408 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: You know, most kids would go try to get their 409 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: undergraduate education. They're graduating in four years. Like I think 410 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: that the president he's setting by throwing five for five, 411 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: you know, shouldn't be how we're looking at this. And 412 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: I've said this once, I'll say it again and again 413 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: and again. We are creating precedent basically for one sport, 414 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: but that impacts all sports. And this is an instance 415 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: of that where this is really about football, It's really 416 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: maybe about basketball, but it's gonna impact all of the 417 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: sports and so like, how does that impact then roster size. 418 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: You're adding additional year of eligibility. What about these kids 419 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: coming from high school? We want to start their opportunity 420 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: of their education. I mean all that stuff. You have 421 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: to continue to build up the roster side in order 422 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: to do so. Now what he's saying in regards to 423 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: the transfer rule, I'm on board with that. Like, I 424 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: think we can ask for young people to make commitments. 425 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: We do in our military. They'd sign up eighteen. You 426 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: don't think they make a commitment. Then we ask these 427 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: young people, now, we're allowed to go to school for 428 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: a year, and if you know, I play well enough, 429 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: maybe I'll jump and go somewhere else. Then after that 430 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: they'll jump and go somewhere else. Then after that, I'll 431 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: jump and go somewhere else. That's how it is. So Yeah, 432 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: I think you should have to make a commitment to 433 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 2: one of these places and be able to have to actually, 434 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: you know, go there, take classes, get your degree. But 435 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: in doing so, like, yeah, if you want to transfer 436 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: once things aren't working out, great, you know I canna 437 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: be penalized for it. You do it second time, you 438 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: have to sit out of here. And maybe that's where 439 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: he feels like that that fifth year comes in. It's 440 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 2: kind of the backbone for this idea of well, if 441 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: they do transfer twice, at least they'll still like you know, 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: fall back on that four years of eligibility because one 443 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: year will be taken away. 444 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I do wonder if it goes back to where it was, 445 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: or if this is one of those instances where you 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: see this in business, you see this in life, to 447 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: where you know, ay, things are just temporary, and then 448 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden a company realizes, wait, I can 449 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: operate at this cost as opposed to what I was before, 450 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and you just start operating in a downsized, downsized company 451 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: like you had. 452 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: And by the way, we just mentioned how many the 453 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: athletic departments are in debt, you know, massive debt in 454 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: some cases. And think about how you're adding on an 455 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: additional year of eligibility, additional year of housing, additional year 456 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: of classes, additional uro food and everything else. You're increasing 457 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: their expenses, So you're adding on more costs by throwing 458 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: this idea out there, Like I look at it this way, 459 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: if we were to take away nil and a transfer 460 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: portal for that matter, but let's just say anile. These 461 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: kids can't get paid anymore. What do you think would happened? 462 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: Do you think these these athletes in particular and college basketball, 463 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: men's college basketball, and then football, do you think they 464 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: want to stay as long? Hell no, they want to 465 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: leave as early as possible to try to get to 466 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: a place where then get paid. And that was the 467 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: whole point. You know, we made college a place where 468 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: you could grow, develop, get an education, and then become 469 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: a professional at whatever that may be. But unfortunately, now 470 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: we've made it a landing spot destination where there's some 471 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: kids who don't want to turn the page because they 472 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: are making money, and then whatever they're going to go 473 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: into next ain't going to make as much money. And 474 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 2: that's unfortunately what's happened. They know, we have politicians and 475 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: former coaches like Tommy Tupperville and guys who've lost sight 476 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: of all that. I have yet to find someone who's 477 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: been able to come up with something that makes sense 478 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: and applies to even the educational component of all this. Yeah, 479 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: so look, there's a good idea in there in regards 480 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: to the transfer portal. It'll never happen because the tooth 481 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: tastes out of the tube, and unfortunately there's have to 482 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: be more than just that. But why the hell do 483 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: these kids need five years? 484 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I don't I wonder because while we 485 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: were going through it, and this is you know, sports 486 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: and everything else, while COVID was going on, and while 487 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: we're going through it, I think everyone was just trying 488 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: to figure out Listen, especially out here in California where 489 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: it was bananas and still is in some parts. I 490 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: think everyone was just trying to figure out, Hey, when 491 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: can I buy some sanitizer wives, or when can I 492 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: buy more than one roll of toilet paper, not realizing 493 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: there's a lasting effect that's going to be taking place 494 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: here that we're never going to recover from. And I 495 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: just wonder if this is one of those things that 496 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned that college sports sports in general are just 497 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: never going to recover from. They're never going to go 498 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: back to what it was, because that left such a 499 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: stamp on everybody and such a lasting mark that companies 500 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: are operating at a lower cost people are. Maybe it's 501 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: created some laziness as well too. You know, I'm sure 502 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: sweatpants sales went up. You know, I'm sure people realize, Oh, 503 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: I could just work from home. I don't have to 504 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: go back. And I have a buddy who works for 505 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: a company, a really well known company, and they just realized, yeah, 506 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: we don't need to have this building here, and they 507 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: just sent everybody home and everybody just works from home. 508 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Now it's one of twothosts. 509 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: You know. 510 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: There's in certain places in particulars like the West Coast 511 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: more so than the East Coast, there's a lot of 512 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: push for remote working because people then they were able 513 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: to adapt and discover like, oh, I can you know, 514 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: work remotely and still be productive. And so there's some 515 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: companies to your point, that are saying, let's get rid 516 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: of our office space. We can do this, you know, 517 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: when work remotely, and we can cut down with what 518 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: space we do have. There's other companies that have got 519 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: in the other direction. They're like, let's be real, like, 520 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: when people are at home, are they really working as 521 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: hard for our companies? They can, but we all know 522 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: the truth that it's no. And then so they're able 523 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: to multitask. They will to do other things and that's 524 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: why they want to back in the office. For some 525 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: companies because they're like, well, we're going to have to 526 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: expense to having an office. Yeah, that's part of the 527 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: conversation because we have to pay for this, but also 528 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: we know you're actually working when you're at work, or 529 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 2: at least you should be working, and we can oversee that. 530 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: And that's what this really becomes about. You know, this 531 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: is about empowerment. You know, once people were able to 532 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: remote work, they're able to take over more control of 533 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: their lives when they want to work, how they want 534 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: to work, in what conditions and environment they want to work. 535 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: And that's what this is this is about, is trying 536 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: to provide you know, that flexibility, but it was really empowerment. Well, 537 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: now when those companies want to take the power back 538 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: and say no, you have to be in the office, 539 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: like I want your time FaceTime with me, you know, 540 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: time in our office where we can oversee what you're doing, 541 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: oversee and meet with you and talk about our niches 542 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: and talk about what we're doing, Like I want that back. 543 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: Now people have an issue with it. And so there's 544 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: elements of that that definitely are parallels to all this 545 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: in regards to just how things have changed and at 546 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: least in regards to like, you know, employee empowerment or 547 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: in this case player empower Like that's really what it's 548 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: come down to. 549 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: Employee empowerment. You imagine telling your dad that back in 550 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: the day, no, Dad, I'm not doing this, I have 551 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: employee empowerment. My dad would literally light me on fire, 552 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: like that doesn't doesn't make. 553 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have went that direction, but he wouldn't 554 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: have been very pleased about it. Of my mom though, 555 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: where if you didn't fall in line, my mom had 556 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: had something. 557 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: For you, Like you should see how many like empty 558 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: office buildings, like just empty buildings there are that used 559 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: to be companies that just don't stand anymore. Either they 560 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: got shut down because of COVID or people just are 561 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: are working from home and it's just accepted. It's just okay, 562 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: all right, apparently we're doing that. Remember that dude from CNN. 563 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought of this, because remember 564 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: I talked to you. My mind goes in this direction. 565 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: I was never like this before we started working together. 566 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: Just yeah right, yeah, yeah, Well one of your buddies 567 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: didn't didn't plan the go ahead. You remember I almost 568 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: said his name. 569 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I remember you remember that odd ball from CNN who 570 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: didn't realize he was on zoom and and started didn't 571 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: realize that he needed to mute out or block out 572 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: his camera, and he started grabbing. Oh man, yeah, he was, 573 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, trying to touch the tuba so to speak, 574 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: and be like, hey man, hey, we can all see this. 575 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: That's just a wild time and all these all the 576 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: residue left over from is probably not the great greatest 577 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: term to use following a comment like that, but all 578 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: the residue left over with you know, COVID and what's happened, 579 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: and now players can play until they're you know, twenty seven, 580 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: been twenty eight years old? Tyler how old Styler shuck? 581 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: Was he like twenty nine something like that. 582 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: No, he's tried twenty five to twenty six. But but 583 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: to that point, you know, there isn't there is a 584 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: thought to, you know, well, why would we put any 585 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: you know, timeframe on this or limit on this, because 586 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: then it's just to be challenged and then something to 587 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: be able to challenge it to get a sixth year 588 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: or maybe in a seventh year. I mean, that's what 589 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: we've got. We've talked about this with Chandler Morris, the 590 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: quarterback who played at Uba last year, who's you know, 591 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 2: been through a number of programs. Now I believe he's 592 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: trying to go for a seventh year and he's claiming, 593 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: what four years ago there was a mental health issue, 594 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: when you could make the case that maybe he just 595 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: got beat out and they get his job back after 596 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: he got hurt, and you know that he was a 597 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: part of that. But again, my issue has always been, 598 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, why didn't he apply for that immediately after 599 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: that year if it was truly about mental health, it 600 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: was truly about whatever he says it was, it should 601 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: have been the year or two years after. It should 602 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: have been four years after when his eligibility is up. 603 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: And now he's claiming back four years to go that 604 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: it was. And it's like, okay, now we're manipulating the system. 605 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: And so you look at situations like that and say 606 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: there's always gonna be people who try to do that 607 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 2: because it's about money. It's all about money. It's all 608 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: about hey, if I can make a million bucks, And 609 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: that's the hard part, Like sitting here saying well, he 610 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to do that. It's like, well, if 611 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: it was for a million bucks, you might too. You 612 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: might have an agent who wants a piece of that too. 613 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: Some of these agents are charging ten twenty percent, but 614 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: they're getting one hundred and twenty thousand out of that 615 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: million bucks. So think about that for a second, like 616 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: you would probably be doing the same thing if you 617 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: were in his shoes, to exhaust all efficence, because I 618 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: don't know when you get out of it, he'll have 619 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: the chance to make that money again, surely, not probably 620 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: playing in the NFL, maybe coaching one day. I feel bad, 621 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: but that's the truth of the matter. 622 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Mormons, man, Like they were 623 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: really the ones that you looked at and said, man, 624 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: you just get into the league. You're like twenty six, 625 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Oh you're on your mission. Guy was riding around on 626 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 1: a ten speed with a helmet on and a button up, 627 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: short sleeve shirt all those years, just sweating his ass 628 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 1: off to try and do the right thing. Gets into 629 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: the league a little late, and now you get some 630 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: of these guys that just decide, yeay, you know what, 631 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to stick around a little bit longer, and 632 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: all because of COVID they can hang around for as 633 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: long as they want, just make money and then come 634 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: to the league to celebrate their thirtieth birthday before rookie camp. 635 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of ridiculous. It's a shit. 636 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: It would be interesting if we got far enough away 637 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: from COVID, if people who didn't grow up through it, 638 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: didn't grow up in it. They don't really recall it. 639 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we had that weird phase, 640 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: but no one really does that anymore. Like I will 641 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: be curious that if we ever get to that point, 642 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: but probably not. Yeah, it seems like there's a lot 643 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: of people who are holding on to a lot of things. 644 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: How things have changed. 645 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that is correct. Come on, man, come on 646 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: out sometime. Let's do Let's take a stroll down southern 647 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: California and tell me what you see. It's a weird place. 648 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: By the way. 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All right, it's coming up next here. 653 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: We've got a real wild man in the world of football. 654 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, things are close to getting off the rails. 655 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: We will tell you who it involves here on FSR. 656 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 657 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 658 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 659 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 660 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 661 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you 662 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: coming up top next hour. 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Good thing the guys are here to 681 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: bring you. 682 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: In case you missed it, and in case you missed this, 683 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: Providence has a brand new head coach, a new men's 684 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: basketball coach. His name was Brian Hodgson, and he had 685 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: his introductory press conference yesterday. And one of the big 686 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: elements when it comes to college sport is whether or 687 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: not you can recruit. And so Brian Hodgson, the brand 688 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: new head coach of Providence, spoke yesterday about his ability 689 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: to do so. 690 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 6: I want to thank my family. Steve talked about it, 691 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 6: my better half, my beautiful spouse here, Jordan, my son 692 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 6: Jet Who'll you'll hear plenty throughout this speech. If you 693 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: ever want to question my recruiting abilities, just just take 694 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 6: a look at my wife Jordan. 695 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Now, he's right. He did land one there, so he 696 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: is absolutely correct. Unfortunately, if things go sideways with this 697 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: as well too, I think people are going to point 698 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: back to that within the next couple of years and 699 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: try and say listen, man, what the hell is going 700 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: on here? Short lifespan in the world of college sports. 701 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: But hopefully it works out for him. But hey, if 702 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: he at least landed that and you got to pay 703 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: a day from problems, well too. 704 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it set to much for either. You know, 705 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: some thought of the age gap there and when that 706 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: relationship came about, and what she was at the time, 707 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: maybe a student, and what he was doing. So yeah, 708 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: that comment has brought brought backs to people digging into 709 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: the history of this thing, and eh, you know, probably 710 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: it would have been better off not mentioning that. 711 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why you have to Well, i'd have 712 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: to be so negative about some of this stuff, man. 713 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not being negative. I'm just saying I 714 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 2: think sometimes when people make stuff that's private public and 715 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: I think Loraina's got something for us today, sometimes and 716 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: it's a backfire. It doesn't have the desired results, or 717 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't lead to where you think it's going 718 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: to go. So it's a funny line. But now people 719 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 2: are like, hey, if you're in your thirties and you're 720 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: coaching somewhere, she'd be dating a student Wayne and kipping by. 721 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: Different Well, in case you missed this, we've got a 722 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: new wild man in the NFL and that wild man 723 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: is Puka Nakua. 724 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 725 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: This came out that apparently had a little bit of 726 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: a run in with some some mutual friends that didn't 727 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: turn too friendly. I think this was New Year's Eve 728 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: that Puka and Aku was out with some some individuals 729 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: and one of the allegations as he made an anti 730 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: Semitic comment. Uh, there was that that was thrown into 731 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: the mix. There was also a thrown into the mix 732 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: that he bit somebody that a woman is claiming that. 733 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: The woman said after she after they went eating and 734 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: got a nice meal together, that her and her friend 735 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: along with Pooka and others got into a sprinter van 736 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: when he became quote touchy feely, She says, Pooka out 737 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: of nowhere, dropped his head into her girlfriend's lap and 738 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: crotch area and bit her thumb so forcefully that she 739 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: screamed in acute pain before turning to a cute pain 740 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: no no, bit her what bitter thumb? 741 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: Oh? 742 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, before turning to her and biting her left 743 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: shoulder and breaking skin, leaving a circular imprint of his teeth. 744 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: The woman did include a photo of this of the 745 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: alleged injury. Uh and it's those are those are teeth 746 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: marks for sure, And this is not the first time 747 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: that he's a person Yeah. 748 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 5: Uh, well, I've been calling him hooka nakua for a while, 749 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: so I'm just saying I'm not shocked or surprised by it, 750 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 5: because well, he's a little spicy, he's hot, he's a 751 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 5: wild man. He has that type of flare to him 752 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 5: on the field, like he would throw his face in 753 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 5: the lap of one of the covering the fenders and 754 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 5: bite them on the thumb, which I don't understand, like 755 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 5: what she had her hands in her lap, So that's 756 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 5: how he got to the thumb, I guess. But then 757 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 5: he worked his way on up to the shoulder. Yeah, 758 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 5: he's a surgeon, you know, he's what you call the 759 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 5: mouth surgeon. 760 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: Now, these are all just allegations. Want to point that 761 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: out there is but in this photo, definitely teeth marks. 762 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: Just might not be his, but I wonder if they 763 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 5: could match his teeth in the photo, it could have been. 764 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: So you think my veneers could last on skin? 765 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 5: Bruh. You're a vampire. Your your your vampire teeth are 766 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 5: are in there. They're in there for hundreds of years. Well, 767 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 5: do you think they just pop out the venear? I mean, hey, 768 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 5: I don't know how it works. I just I don't. 769 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, But what's wrong with a little nibble here 770 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: and there? Is it really that bad? 771 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the that's the problem with today is 772 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 5: some people are okay with the little love bite. 773 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: Is cute? 774 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: That leaves broken skin in the mark? 775 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we, I mean we, you know, we 776 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 5: have conversations with you during the show, Lorena. Some people 777 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: are okay with that approach. It's just not good when 778 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 5: you happen to do that to one that isn't. 779 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to point out that I myself 780 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: do not condone this sort of behavior. I just want 781 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: to point. 782 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: That out that well, as a vampire, I don't think 783 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: you can. I think it's interesting Lorena keeps jumping into this. 784 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Lorenda, what we've talked about. The path 785 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 2: you're heading on right now. It's not fans always fans 786 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: is up for sale. I'm not sure if it's the 787 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: future that most most. 788 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: If you do it, though, I want to be your manager. 789 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 5: So it does inspiral out of control like I want 790 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 5: to I want I want a fifty percent cut. 791 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: Fifty you may want, agent, I want fifty. 792 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 5: Percent cut, and I'm going to make sure I market 793 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 5: and promote you the right way. 794 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: That actually sounds like a great deal. 795 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 5: All right, there we go. 796 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean I would say this, uh, you know, for 797 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: a guy who's you know, trying to get a record contract. Yes, 798 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: this is not the not the greatest look in the 799 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: world for who could the agent? 800 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 2: Well, we'd love to pay him over forty two and 801 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 2: whatever JFN just signed for, but we're a little bit 802 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 2: concerned about them biting people. 803 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: He's had a biting problem.