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The playoffs 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: are in fact set and oh yeah, by the way, 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: crazy day in the National Football League we've we've done 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: this before with the Cowboys. We did it week one 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: and now we've we've learned in week three, which is 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: what have we learned? What do we learned? The Cowboys 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: aren't as bad as we thought, or maybe it's the 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: momentum of a game, or maybe the other team is 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: not as good as we thought. But last night was 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: just a wild game, just a wild game. And if 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: you had the assumption that was gonna be a blowout, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: and early on it looked like it might be a blowout, 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: never fear. The Packers' ability to keep a game that 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: should have been a blowout close is here. And then 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you factor in that Micah Parsons is playing for the 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Packers and not the Cowboys, and it was a huge 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: part of the discussion. And then you factor in that 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this, 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: this shouldn't be close. After the game one and win, 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: all is that? Okay? We all okay? Saying that Cowboys 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: won forty to forty. They won a game that was tied. 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: Here's Jerry Jones, owner and general manager of the Cowboys 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: talking about the game, I don't want to play. 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: That game was probably a great game for the NFL 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: as far as the showcase for the game and competition, 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: because you had outstanding quarterback play, you had some very 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: talented people out there playing. You certainly had one of 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: the most expensive players in the history of the NFL 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: out there playing. And so I guess everybody was going 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: to take a look tonight and decide to see. 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Work all there. 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind, right, 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: and so yes, and Michael. 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Was and Michael wasn't. I would can we just we 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: haven't seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But if we're having four weeks of the season, 55 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does. 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: watches WNBA and football, right. I think Jay Stu probably 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: college basketball team, but we watch a lot of football, 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things, he has been his reason behind 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons, 67 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: his reason behind a lot of things is I got 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships. 70 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right Like, 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: had he hired a different coach, that would have been 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows. If 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: did going back to last year, and he looks like 76 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Meyer 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: you okay with saying that. 78 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: That Dek looks like a top five quarterback? 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and essentially, again, 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to go through numbers 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: of who looks, you know, whatever, but I would say 82 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: that if Jerry's right about anything, he is right about 83 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott so. 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: Far, I will I will just say this because I've 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 4: never had a problem with Dak at all, and I 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: think I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak. 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: So I think last night was what we saw with 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines with. 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: You, okay, Sam. 90 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Last night I looked at Dak in his performance and 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, this this year so far 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: and then his past seasons. I just look at him 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: as like the industry standard. Like he is. He is 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 3: a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid. Maybe 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: he's not the flashiest all the time, but he is 96 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: like he is, He's the standard. That's how you should 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: play quarterback. I don't know if I put him top five, 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: maybe he floats around in there, but he is the 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: industry standard in my opinion. 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Jay. 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: Still, I'm gonna answer your question with a question, would 102 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week, 103 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: would you be surprised if he did a head scratching 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: a bad decision in the next game and we're in 105 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: a week we're talking about him being a dumb crap 106 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 5: because like the thing with Dak Prescott to me, has 107 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: always been consistency. When he's been healthy, he does he 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 5: goes up and down. So we're talking about him after 109 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: a really good game. He seems to have had a 110 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: couple good games in a row here. But the thing is, 111 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if he if he didn't do 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: well in the next game, and we're talking about the 113 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: weird decision making and the interception or whatever. 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks. 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right, 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants. 119 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey, 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: out of four games, he's played well in three of them, 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing. 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers, 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me? 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: No? 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: It would probably impress me. Though, if he backed up 127 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: this performance with another outstanding performance. 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 5: So then he's not top five, right, because you expect 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: a more consistent quarterback in the top five. 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, eah? So who are the top five quarterbacks? 131 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: Though? 132 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Right, we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes, 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: although Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of 134 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: it is he didn't have weapons to throw to all year, right, 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there. 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of 137 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: the reason was as good was he had no protection. 139 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: So who else are we? Lamar has been good but 140 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost. 141 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: So who else are we we're putting in that list? 142 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: I think Burrow's always two or three, right. 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Sure, but he's hurt and. 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: You're talking first four weeks of the season. Top five 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: quarterback play? 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 147 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 148 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: I think the point is is that he's definitely in 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: the top ten, and right now it leads the NFL 150 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: in passing yardage, So there's that aspect of it. 151 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I would say through four games of the season, we 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: can we can all say like he may we may 153 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: carry pass biases against him, and that's fair. But if 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: you'd say, through four games of the season he hasn't 155 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding 156 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: the past against him too much. And and and again, 157 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: what was Jerry's logic. Jerry's logic was last year and 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: signing him first was he's the most valuable you have 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working, 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it. 162 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's fall there and then and I don't 163 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: or if this is just something that he's come upon, 165 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want 166 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I 168 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: don't need to be doing that with two different guys. 169 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: And so if I have to choose between one, I'm 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision. 171 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse 173 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: for it, of course, but I also think that Dak 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader. If 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: you found an offense that works for him, Now you 176 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: have two first round picks, you free some money up 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: for future years, rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard. 178 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback? Yes, yes, Dan, you. 179 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: Know it's funny because I'm just I'm looking at I'm 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: watching a highlight package now of last night, and I 181 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: think that Jerry made all the right decisions. But also 182 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: these decisions are made like via Jerry, And it's funny 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the screen just as 184 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And Jerry Jones is 185 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: on the set of Sunday Night Football in America last 186 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: night talking with the whole thing. So whether it works 187 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 4: out in the long term or not, and I think 188 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: in the short term it's worked out for Dallas, and 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: Jerry keeps on saying in the long term, they've got 190 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: those picks. 191 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: Man. 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: That deal is is right to the wheelhouse for Jerry 193 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: because he's the focus of attention. And now when we're 194 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, waxing poetically or most of us are about Dak. 195 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: It's more about Jerry, like as crazy as it is. 196 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 4: And I don't know how good the Cowboys are after 197 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: a miserable week in week three, but even after a tie, 198 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: I think we're looking like Jerry and the Cowboys at 199 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: least are winners right now. 200 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Sure, suh, that's the be That's why I say they 201 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: won last night forty to forty. They won last night 202 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was 203 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: not at all pleased with the result. 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 6: Obviously he didn't come down here to tie a football game, 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 6: but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great 207 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 6: job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field. 208 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 6: But there's a lot of things that we all have 209 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: to clean up, and starting with myself, I mean trying 210 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 6: to be aggressive at the end of the half and 211 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 6: that that really bit us in the butt. 212 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, end of the half and end of game and 213 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor. 214 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end 215 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: of the game, which caused them to have to tie. 216 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 6: That just goes to the level of detail where we're 217 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 6: not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left, 218 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 6: we call a play to take a shot. 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: To the end zone. They played cover two. 220 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 6: We end up checking the ball down, so we have 221 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 6: it on the ball call to send everybody to the 222 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: end zone. And we knew that there. I mean, we 223 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 6: use the turmo zone saying that it's got to go 224 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 6: out of bounds or end zone. 225 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: Obviously with time remaining, and. 226 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: Just the operation was just way too slow, Like I 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 6: don't know if our guys didn't know where in two 228 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 6: minutes or what. But ultimately the communication has got to 229 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: get better. Myself to Jordan, Jordan to the huddle. And 230 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 6: that's that's the bottom line. 231 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad, 232 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the 233 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: end of the game, and here's guys that have been 234 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before, 235 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they 236 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: look disorganized. And I get that it's true this season 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: and I get that it's it's crazy. Maybe you didn't 238 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: expect to be in that position. I commend Lafour Like 239 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Lafour is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got 240 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: to be better. They got to know what we're in. 241 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: the Packers who started out like a house of fire 243 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: and felt like they went through the motions last week 244 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: and got beat And obviously you give up a block 245 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: field goal last week a blockfield goal this week, and 246 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: that ends up being the difference in both those games. 247 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 7: This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show 248 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio. 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: What up? 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It starts in October, and it's 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, fantastic. We do this every Monday. 270 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a great way of basically exposing what we watched 271 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: and what we cared about this weekend. It's also a 272 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: good way of talking about other topics. We call it 273 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: love and hate. Did you love God? 274 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 8: I love you? 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 7: And what did you hate? 276 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 8: Meet these player haters? 277 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: What you love from the weekend? What did you hate 278 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: from the weekend? Love? Love, love, hate hate? Hate? Dude? 279 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Do do bum bum bum baby bo bum bum by? 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Uh boy? I know what I hated? That one's pretty easy. 281 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: There are two. Oh it was God there's a play 282 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I really hated. Let me tell you the start with 283 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: what I loved, but I want to start with Dan 284 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Byer because he's a resident lover boy. 285 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: D w A, you got, Doug. 286 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if I should love or hate it 287 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: because I hated the first two days of the Ryder 288 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Cup for the United States. However I did love on 289 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: Sunday the comeback and the fire that they had. It 290 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: does tell me a little bit that maybe this is 291 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: the problem with the US Ryder Cup team, is that 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: they are so great and their individual aspects, but some 293 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: reason it does not translate into the team aspect. But 294 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: if the US would have just laid down on Sunday, 295 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: it would have been a completely wasted weekend. 296 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 8: It was you. 297 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: You were you were singing. I know, I know, I 298 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: just didn't realize. I was just saying I felt that 299 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: it was good that the US came back on Sunday. 300 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I love 301 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: here real quick. Okay, what are you say? What do 302 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: you think of? I'm sorry, I just. 303 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: Think there's a lot of meat on that bone at 304 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: the Ryder Cup. We have a golf expert on the 305 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 5: show so many theatrics, so many insults. I thought the 306 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: American fans looked like a bunch of jerks, Dan, Are 307 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: you as most of us were with the way the 308 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 5: Americans treated the Europeans on the course this weekend, Doug, I. 309 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Was completely uncomfortable, Dan, what do you think? 310 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: I think that I think there was an awful look, 311 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: like there is a line. And I feel that with 312 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: all the hype that we gave to this Ryder Cup 313 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: being at Bethpage Black, that the fan base there was 314 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: set up for it and felt entitled to treat like this, 315 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: treat the players like this. I mean they had an 316 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: MC that they the PGA of America had hired that 317 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: gets on the mic and yells bleep you Rory on 318 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: Saturday to go along with the chance And I just 319 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: it's it was an awful look, atrocious look, and I 320 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: felt that the build up to it enabled all of this. 321 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: Oh wait till they get the Bethpage bath Page is 322 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: gonna get rowdy. I would have hate to have seen 323 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: would have been like if the US was winning, because 324 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: I almost think it could have been worse. 325 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: Because it's embarrassing that we got smoked. We were getting 326 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: smoked and we were acting with that way. 327 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: And yeah, so like I don't know which way to 328 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: take it, but it really was embarrassing. And I don't 329 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: want to see Shane Lowry jumping around on the green 330 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: when they win the Ryder Cup. I wish the US 331 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: would have won that match, however, or won any of 332 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: those matches over the weekend on Friday and Saturday. However, 333 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: it is a competition. They came in and handed the 334 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: US their lunch. That's what it's all about. It's not 335 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: about yelling bleep you Rory and heckling Rory's family, and yeah, 336 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: just yelling things to Shane Lowry that crossed the line 337 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: of heckling. Having fans kicked out? 338 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 339 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 4: Such a ridiculous, just ridiculous atmosphere that I felt was 340 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: built up because that's all we said. Wait till they 341 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: get to Beth Page. All those New York fans and 342 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 4: then the New York fans. 343 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Hey, New York enjoy the Mets playoff run? Oh wait, 344 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: they don't have one. You just you embarrassed the entire country. 345 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: And as much as you can write it off as like, 346 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: well that's just maga idiots, apparently that's who we are, right, 347 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: That's who we are, right, that's who we have become, 348 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. Okay, it's it's just 349 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: like anything people bring in the predetermined bias as to 350 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: who Americans are. And because our president goes, you know, 351 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: in New York at the at the United Nations and 352 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: says like all of your countries are going to hell, 353 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: right and starts just trashing everybody else, then all these 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: other aid it's like, yeah, you suck rw y like. 355 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 8: That. 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: That's again. It doesn't mean you have to golf clap. 357 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't cheer wildly, it doesn't mean 358 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: you can't boo. But it's like you said, Dan, everybody 359 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: knows the line, and we were so far over the line. 360 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: You know that. 361 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: You got golfers saying you f U f you. They're 362 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: only doing that if they're just tired of the verbal abuse. 363 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: They just had it. And by the way, eat it. 364 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: We lost. You look like the world's biggest clown. That's 365 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: what athletes actually think, right when you lose, Like, hey man, 366 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: you gotta shake hands. That that's it. You don't have 367 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: to like it, you gotta shake hands. When fans continue 368 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: this year after losing you, you just appear to be 369 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the biggest losers ever, even if you're a super successful guy. Whatever, 370 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: that's your inner hate, whatever, you just can make us 371 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: all look like clowns. I thought that was wis just 372 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just. 373 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: So fired up about we went on to a different 374 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 3: track there. Sorry, but it's okay, it's all. It's all 375 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: in code, it's all in it's all. 376 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I love speaking of idiot fans. Okay, 377 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: how many idiots that think of themselves as Alabama fans? 378 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Said fire Kaylin de Moore. Hey, he's an embarrassment. Bring 379 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: back Nick Sapement. I don't care for costs. Just seven 380 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: million dollars to get rid of them. Get rid of them. 381 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Alabama football is going to hell. It's going to hell. 382 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: And what they what they do Saturday? 383 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Dann Bayer when to Athens and one. 384 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: Yes led from kickoff to finish. Okay, we stood an 385 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: unbelievable comeback from a really good, really well coached football 386 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: team with a really good ground game. Like Georgia didn't 387 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: play terribly, Alabama was just better. So all of you 388 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: just know I love it. I got video on my 389 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: social media this lady was like, if I win in 390 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: the lottery, first thing I'm gonna do is get rid 391 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: of Kaylin de boor Hey, lady, you sound like an 392 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: idiot because this is what happens with fans. You don't 393 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: know about what you don't know about. Guys, got a 394 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: new quarterback, got half a new team. They had to 395 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: go into Florida State first week of the season, and 396 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: they got beat from another team that's pretty good, probably 397 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: way better than you think, maybe not as good as 398 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: they look that day. It's one game. It's what you 399 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: do over the lifespan the season. Let the guy coach 400 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: and Kaylen de Bor congratulations. I love that you went 401 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: in there and beat George's ass. All right, what he 402 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: got there? 403 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: Just this is a love filled with lots of tension 404 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: and hate. That's fine, though, Go ahead, Jason. 405 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 5: I love that Aaron Rodgers played well. I love that 406 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: the Steelers wont I pull for Aaron Rodgers. I pull 407 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: for interesting people. I want him to succeed, so it's 408 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: great to see him succeed. He looks really like he's 409 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: having fun too. I don't know if you guys watched 410 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: kind of his demeanor yesterday. It looks like a guy 411 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: who's like, this is my last season. I'm going to 412 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 5: enjoy every last minute of it. It got a little 413 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: dicey at the end, but it doesn't matter. And the 414 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: only thing I like better than watching Aaron Rodgers win 415 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: is when Aaron Rodgers wins me money. Because for the 416 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: fourth straight week in a row, I have put my good, 417 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: hard earned money on the team against Colin Cowherd's favorite 418 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: choice of the weekend. 419 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: It's your favorite thing, and it worked again. 420 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: He loved the Vikings, loved and of course I put 421 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: money on the Steelers and got up in the middle 422 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: of the second quarter and watch the rest game and 423 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: really like that. Do you guys know how hard it 424 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: is to miss four games? It's just as hard as 425 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: being four games, right, It's hard. It's just as hard 426 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 5: to go four and oh than it is zero to four. 427 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 5: So again, when Cowherd says this is the one that 428 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: I like most this weekend, put money down on the 429 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 5: other one. 430 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: And that's. 431 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: That's credit to the Vikings. They did make it interesting late. 432 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: But but what Sam doesn't understand, and he pointed that 433 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: out on text too, and I get it. Sam doesn't gamble. 434 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 5: It's not that Cowherd said that the Vikings might pull 435 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: it pull it off rarely, he liked them. He he 436 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: was wondering why it was a two and a half 437 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 5: point spread. He thought it was going to be at 438 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: least a seven point outcome. Get that, So just just 439 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: them making it close doesn't count, right, and in this conversation, 440 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: but understand, shall I go? 441 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: Yes? 442 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 8: You should? 443 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: Well, I had a my second ever NFL Sunday. That's 444 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: what I love. And thanks to Scott Shapiro made that happen. 445 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: AD some tickets for some people here at FSR to 446 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: go to the Rams hosting the undefeated Colts. So I 447 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: was sitting next to Covino and rich producer Danny g 448 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: and his steps on AJ and then I brought my 449 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: friend Dylan. You know, it's I think the only way 450 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: you can really go to these games, especially in place 451 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: like La affordably is to get something completely for free. 452 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: So I love that I got free tickets. You still 453 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: got to pay for parking, which is ridiculous even off site, 454 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: but we had an off site parking spot, a little tailgating. 455 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: The clouds cleared out, beautiful day, had some great seats 456 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: down at the hundred level. It was a little hot 457 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 3: in their little Muggy gets a little muggy in there 458 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: in so far, but it was It was a fun game. 459 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: It was kind of locked at thirteen to ten for 460 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: a while, and then the last few minutes the Rams 461 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: kind of came back with an explosion of points and 462 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: you know you can you can't not bring up a 463 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: done Mitchell's fumble as he was going over the goal line. 464 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 3: That was a big break for the Rams, big break 465 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: for the Rams. And but still the Colts had a 466 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: twenty to thirteen lead late and the Rams just exploded. 467 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: And then it was Matthew Staffer's longest ever pass play 468 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 3: to to two at well eighty eight yards. He had 469 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: a nice game. He kind of dinked and dunked a lot, 470 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: and then he had that huge pass play and exciting 471 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: way to end it. The place was nuts. The Rams 472 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: fans were great. I had a great time. You make 473 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: a day of a game like that, like you gotta 474 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: get down there, you gotta get back, you know, you 475 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: spend six seven hours just going to a game. But 476 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: I loved it. I had a great time. Jase can 477 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: I can I quick jump in just something quick? 478 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: Sure? 479 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: That explains why you thought the Vikings, you know, made 480 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: it close at the end because you were all tail gatting, right, 481 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: you probably didn't see watching. 482 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that game, Yeah, I mean I was falling 483 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: along with it. But that game was over by like 484 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: my local time. We hadn't even left yet. Yeah, a 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: bunch of like the Steelers, some of their decisions let 486 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: the Vikings bash. But also ad Ni Mitchell had a 487 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: holding call on Jonathan Taylor's touchdown run late in the game. 488 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: At night Mitchell, I mean like I wanted to get 489 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he was showboating when he 490 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: lost the football. 491 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 5: No, No, it was weird. 492 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: I think he was switching. I don't know, he was 493 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: like moving, he was kind of maybe changing hands with 494 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: the ball, but it just no, he was he was, 495 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 3: he was, he was. He was about to hold it up, 496 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: hold up over the goal line. 497 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: I think he was about to hold it up after 498 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: they went into the end zone, and it slipped out 499 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: of his hand. 500 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: Right before he walked over. And that was like the 501 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: whole dynamic of inside SOFI changed. There were a lot 502 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: of Colts fans there too, credit to them, but that 503 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: was that was crazy. And then's the way the game 504 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: ended was was, so we don't. 505 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 5: We're not putting this in the category of all these 506 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: weave the ball right before the well I. 507 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: Was going to get to that with my hate. Well, 508 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that with the hate. Let's get Jay Stu, 509 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: get your get your love. 510 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: I love Aaron Rodgers and I love the Steelers winning 511 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: me money yesterday. 512 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: There you go, that's covered. Let's get Oh we did, 513 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: we did. I'm I'm so wrapped up in in uh 514 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: in yours. All right, let's get to hate. Let's start 515 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: with our resident hater, Jay Stu. 516 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: I was a part of the millions of people on 517 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: Twitter who were in Adam Schefter's mentions yesterday. I don't 518 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: know if you guys saw this. This might be a 519 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 5: little too inside baseball. I know Buyer followed it. I 520 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: think Schefter has a problem with people who were raised 521 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 5: in southern California. He took dead aim at Doug gottlieblest December, 522 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 5: and then he screwed me over this weekend. So I 523 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 5: have Jalen Warren on my fantasy team, and like millions 524 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 5: of people across the country, I went to bed Saturday 525 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 5: night with a report from Adam Schefter that Jalen Warren 526 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: would be active for the game in Ireland. That so 527 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 5: I left him in my lineup and I went to sleep. 528 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 5: I wake up into the first quarter and I check 529 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 5: my phone and Jalen Warren in the meantime was scheduled 530 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 5: as an inactive And all those people that went to 531 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: sleep thinking Jayalen Warren was fine and left them in 532 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: the lineup, we're all over Schefter's mentioned. I think this 533 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 5: is insider malpractice. I think that Schefter and the coaches 534 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 5: and the NFL needs to do a better job of 535 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 5: catering to fantasy owners. I was an Adam Schefter casualty 536 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: on Sunday, and I'm still pissed off about it. 537 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, uh damn byer. 538 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: Wow, there is a lot to get to. 539 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: I will say this, this is some bad audio, but 540 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: this is what James Franklin had to say after Penn 541 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: State lost in overtime to Oregon. I hope you guys 542 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 4: can hear it. Sammy may have to turn down the 543 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: music a little bit just because we didn't get a 544 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: good mic on this. 545 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 3: This is James frank I. 546 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 9: Kind of look at the entire picture. I get that narrative. 547 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 9: It's really not a narrative. It's fatal. 548 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: It's the facts. 549 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 9: I get it, but I try to look at the 550 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 9: entire picture and what we've been able to do here. 551 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, we've got to 552 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 9: find a way to win those games. 553 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: And I take ownership and I take responsibility. 554 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: This sat with me all weekend and hearing that sound bite, 555 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: because at first I thought that I loved it that 556 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: he recognized the noise, and then as I listened to 557 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: it and thought about it more, I almost feel that 558 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: he's trying to dismiss the noise. And I'm curious and 559 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: your thoughts, Doug on that, because I don't think a 560 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: lot of times we're fair to James Franklin. But the 561 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: numbers are the numbers. Like now, Oregon was ranked sixth, 562 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: so we expand instead of top five, we say top 563 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: six teams. That's not necessarily fair. That's just trying to 564 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 4: make a stat look worse than maybe what it is. 565 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: But it's not good with James Franklin, And so it 566 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: sat with me yesterday at this time he feeled to 567 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: talk to me, and I said, that's good for James 568 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: Franklin owning it up, but as it's gone on and on. 569 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: I almost feel like he's dismissing it by saying, yeah, 570 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: I know it's there, but this is what's going on. 571 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: So it just kind of got to bother. 572 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: Me more and more. Speaking of recognizing the noise, it 573 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: sounded like James Franklin was doing that press conference from 574 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: a jet. 575 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: Well that's that's the problem. There's for some reason this 576 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 4: is old audio stuff. But all we can get our 577 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: people holding cell phones. Even the official like press conference 578 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: video that we were trying to pull from was far away, 579 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: but it was. 580 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: Loud and clear to me. 581 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 2: Dan. 582 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know. I get the narrative. 583 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: Two and twenty one against top six teams, fifty er row. 584 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: It's impossible to get away from it, and I feel. 585 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: That's what he was trying to say. 586 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, But in a way, I also feel that he's 587 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: dismissing it by just saying, all right, that it's factual. 588 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 589 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I was right yesterday in my feeling about it, 590 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: but today I feel differently. 591 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: I just look at four and twenty one against top 592 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 3: ten teams. Those are facts, Jack, So there you got 593 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: star facts. Check. 594 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: What do you got there? Jase Sammy. 595 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, my hate is how the Iowa Indiana game ended 596 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: on Saturday. Iowa had not welcome to ranked team to 597 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: Kinnick Stadium for three seasons, which is kind of hard 598 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: to believe. They had had dog poo opponents coming to 599 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: town for a couple of seasons. They finally they finally 600 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: get a really good Indiana team at number eleven coming 601 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: in and the whole game was tense. I mean, by 602 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: the time it was over, I was chewed up and 603 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: spat out. I was just I felt like I had just, 604 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, just a crime had been committed and 605 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: I was there traumatized. I think that a lot of 606 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: Iowa fans expected Iowa just kind of get their pants 607 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: pulled down. They didn't. They really battled in the game. 608 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: But then you get to the final three minutes and 609 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: Iowa picks off quarterback Indiana quarterback Fernanda Mendoza's first interception 610 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: of the year. They returned it all the way to 611 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: I think the IU twenty nine yard line. Oh on this, 612 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: by the way, Iowa's quarterback Mark Ronowski had been out 613 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: the entire fourth quarter with injury, which sucked and does 614 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: still suck because we don't really know his status right now. 615 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: So incomes Auburn transfer Hank Brown. They try to get 616 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: it in field grange. 617 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 8: They do. 618 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: They get it to a forty two yard attempt and 619 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: Iowa's very reliable kicker, dw Stevens. This is all with 620 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: three under three minutes ago. Drew Stevens kicks a wobbler. 621 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: It goes wide left. I don't know if the hold 622 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: was great, I don't know, but it didn't go in 623 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: and usually Drew Stevens's money, so they could have gone 624 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: up sixteen thirteen. Anyway, They give the ball back to Indiana, 625 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: and Indiana hits a long pass play, breaks a tackle, 626 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: and their guy siat I believe that's his name, takes 627 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: it in for a touchdown and Indiana wins twenty to 628 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: fifteen after a very weird safety that uh even Mendoza 629 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 3: acknowledged afterward cooked the spread, as he said, all right 630 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: that that was just a tough, tough way to lose. 631 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you a tough way to lose. 632 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: Deuce Robinson's going in the end zone for Florida State. 633 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: Ball is thrown to him before the goal line and 634 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: he catches it, bobbles it tip whatever catches it, gets 635 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it into his possession, gets both feet down. Then while 636 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: his feet are in the air before he steps out 637 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: of bounds, he like automatically adjusts it to one hand. 638 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: But because he adjusted that split second, it appears that 639 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have control. Okay, I just just kind of 640 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: let's go around here, Dan, you know the play I'm 641 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: talking about? Correct? Yes, did he catch the football? 642 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 643 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'm not saying did he illegally 644 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: catch it with the with the ball adjusted, like if you're. 645 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he caught it when he was out of 646 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: the end zone. 647 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Sam, do you think he caught the football? Okay? 648 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Jay Stu probably not familiar with the play either. 649 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 5: Not what I and I have no problems, admitted on 650 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: the air, as Sam. 651 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: Was, I was not familiar with the play. 652 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: But it was a crazy game. Virginia had the lead 653 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Florida State going down trying to win the game or whatever, 654 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and you'll see it. It's one of the craziest catch 655 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: no catch. I rule it the greatest incompletion, greatest incomplete 656 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: catch of all time. 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 4: I watched that game and I don't I don't recall that, 658 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 4: but he bobbled it for twelve yards through the end zone. 659 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll send it to you. No, No, it's 660 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: what I what I hate is he caught it, but 661 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: it's not a complete pass and it just it Also, 662 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: it just shows like all it's gonna sit there and 663 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: goes like wow, Mike. No Valley lost to Virginia, like okay, 664 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: but they the game was not and I felt like 665 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: it was one of the great field stormings of all time. 666 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: But they came in fast. They came in fast and hot. 667 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: Has anybody found that Florida state wide receiver that that 668 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: was laying on the ground when they went. It looked 669 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: like he got trampled. Maybe he didn't get trampled. I 670 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: don't know. 671 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 5: They put it out a statement saying he's okay, but 672 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 5: it definitely looked like he was dead. Like they killed it. 673 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: It looked like they killed him Virginia, right, And for 674 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Virginia fans, think about it, how the hard that is. 675 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: You're Virginia fan, right, You're not used to good football. 676 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: You got your sweater tied around your neck, you got 677 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: your tea in one hand, right, you got your monocle 678 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: on the other hand. And now you got to run 679 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: on a football field. That's really hard, very difficult for 680 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Virginia fans. 681 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 5: Could we point out the fact that that was funny. 682 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. That was no nothing from them, zero, Okay, 683 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry, jeez too. 684 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 5: I'd like to point out the fact that half of 685 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 5: the Jay's two team parway was Virginia and that Sam 686 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 5: had the balls to go right after me in the 687 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 5: gambler and put his money on Florida State. We all 688 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 5: know how that ended up, thank you. 689 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: I yeah, and I did. I thought Florida State would 690 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: win this one convincingly. They did not double overtime game. 691 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: They couldn't even cover. Florida State could not have even 692 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: covered if they wanted to. They would only won by 693 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 3: a few points, two points, whatever. But I did have 694 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: a problem with that field storming. It looked amazing, but 695 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 3: that looked super dangerous, and Virginia was fine fifty grand 696 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: for that. So I was like, just it was just 697 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: too fast, too much. It was like just people flooding 698 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: onto the field really too fast, too furious, too fast, 699 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 3: too furious. I just it looked dangerous for the players. 700 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: I love the enthusiasm from the fans and they have 701 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: been waiting a long time. But man, that was just 702 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 3: that looked a little out of control. 703 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: And that is love. 704 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 7: And hey, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 705 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 7: lineup in the nation yet. Catch all of our shows 706 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 7: at Fox sports radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 707 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco will join 708 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: us after the update and we'll get his thoughts on 709 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: on on questions like this, like, uh, what are you 710 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: think's going on with the Ravens? A lot of injuries now, Uh, 711 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson tugs his hamstring. Here's John Harbaugh after the game. 712 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 10: I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it. 713 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: You know. 714 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 10: The three losses are gets probably three of the top 715 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 10: teams in the league for sure, you know, And that's 716 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 10: just the hand we've been dealt. But it doesn't really matter. 717 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 10: We've gotta we've gotta win the next game. And then 718 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 10: once you win the next game, then you have a 719 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 10: chance to start stacking some wins. And that's what we've 720 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 10: got to do, big picture wise, but small picture wise. 721 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 10: We gotta do a great job of putting together a 722 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 10: great game plan and a great practice and then a 723 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 10: great game. 724 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got to know who's gonna be on 725 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: their team, who's gonna be, who's gonna be playing, who's 726 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna be playing. 727 00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 9: Uh. 728 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bail on the on the Ravens. That'd 729 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: be silly, especially when you look at that division. Right, 730 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: Bengals don't have Burrow Browns. I know they had a 731 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: huge win over the Packers last week, but there's still 732 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Steelers. It feels like it's coming together, 733 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: but it's hard to tell if it was coming together 734 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: because they played the Vikings, were so depleted by injury 735 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: and have a rookie quarterback. You heard that intro song, 736 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: so Bad Bunny is playing it at halftime. I want 737 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: to make sure this is clear. I want to be consistent. Okay, 738 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: before you complain about Bad Bunny and you go, I 739 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: don't know any of those songs. I don't either. Guess what. 740 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: They're not designed for us? Okay, it's not meant for us, 741 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: that freaking voodoo music. Sure, but we're not. We're all 742 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: gonna watch the super Bowl if there was no halftime show, right, 743 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: So they have to find somebody who all the sponsors 744 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: agree with that works and then they got to find 745 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: somebody who can bring the biggest audience that wouldn't normally 746 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: watch through watch up until halftime of an NFL game. 747 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: That's the logic behind I hate that song, I got it, 748 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: but that's the logic behind Once we understand that logic 749 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: that remember whether it's I think Apple has to agree 750 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: with it. Right there the title sponsor. I don't know 751 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: if Pepsi still does the halftime show whatever this year, 752 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: is that NBC is doing the game, so NBC has 753 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: to be on board. Can't be somebody who NBC doesn't want. 754 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: All these corporate partners have to come to okay, And 755 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: then when they're trying to find the right group, band, singer, performer, 756 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: generally the plan is who can we get that people 757 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: who don't traditionally like to watch NFL games will watch. 758 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: That way we bring more people because everybody who likes 759 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: to watch NFL games, or even partially like to watch 760 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: NFL games, they can watch anyway. 761 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 5: That seems to make sense to me what you just said. 762 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 5: At the same time, there's a I don't know who 763 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 5: the target is, like even Jay Z and like his 764 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 5: announcement was like, uh, Benito's been great for Puerto Rico. Okay, 765 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what that has to do with his 766 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 5: legitimacy for being the halftime performer. I think Kendrick Lamar 767 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 5: got similar pushback in that a lot of people aren't 768 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 5: familiar with his music. Ken Mar has has won like Grammys, 769 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 5: he's won like Pulitzers, like he's a genius. I don't 770 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 5: know what bad bunny bring what what audience does he 771 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: bring to this thing? Is it your twelve year old daughter, 772 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: is it your twenty one year old half big college 773 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 5: student or. 774 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: I think I think, uh women, and I think, uh Latino. 775 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: That would be my guess. 776 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 3: He's got three three Grammy's, eleven Latin Grammys, so I 777 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 3: mean he's very popular. But yeah, it's at least Kendrick Lamar, 778 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: like Kendrick Lamar is American. I mean he's wraps in English. 779 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean that's it's gonna probably reach more people. I 780 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: would think Puerto Rico obviously if part of the US 781 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: in a way, but it's not. But yeah, twelve year 782 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: olds to bring him in. 783 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: Well again, what's sixty five million latinos in the United States? 784 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Sixty five million? Sixty five million? There's your answer. And 785 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: yeah and excuse younger and excuse excuse Latin hope makes 786 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: complete sense to me. 787 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: I think Jason, though, has always been on the point 788 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: that like the NFL do this stuff like the go 789 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: play games in other countries and then they'll do like 790 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: the halftime show like this, And Jason, when you say that, 791 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: like you're kind of worried about the actual NFL audience 792 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: being turned off and isolated and alienated. 793 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way, though, Everybody's still going to watch 794 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Dan, you had something, you looked you 795 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: had something you want. 796 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: To add, No, go ahead, that's totally fine. 797 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: No, it was a joke. 798 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't even know what it was. 799 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Okay again, I I understand what you're saying, but like, 800 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: are you really going to do you Everybody says I 801 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: won't watch Here you will. 802 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the anger will burn off. People will watch. 803 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: There's no anger. You're like, here you will. It's la 804 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: type show. You don't want to. 805 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: Watch it, you don't watchment. 806 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: If you don't want to watch it, you don't watch it. Yeah, right, 807 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, I watched the second half. I'm gonna 808 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: go and take a walk. I'm gonna go drink a beer. 809 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the restroom. Whatever. It's not designed 810 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: for you, design for your wife, your girlfriend, your children, 811 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: and especially a predominantly Latin fan base that that probably 812 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: is sitting there going like, hey, we're this is one 813 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: of the biggest most supportive fan bases in the NFL, 814 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 1: and what do we get, right, what do we get? Nada? 815 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's the college student. I think 816 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: it's the high school student. I think it's the the 817 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Latin fan and the Latin viewer and even you know, 818 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: Latin females that are like, I'd never watch the Super Bowl, 819 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: Well now you might. 820 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't it feel though, like a second, third, or fourth choice, 821 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 5: Like a soon as they announced that, I thought, oh, 822 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 5: Taylor Swift turned it down. It's kind of like those 823 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 5: when you see those casts of movies and you're like, oh, 824 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 5: Meryl Streep turned it down, So of course Renee Russo 825 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: is going to star in that nineties movie for the 826 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 5: fifth time. 827 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. 828 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 4: Was it pointed out or proven that Taylor Swift turned 829 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 4: it down this year? I've not heard in the last 830 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: news cycle, because last year when they announced it, they 831 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 4: announced it week one of the NFL season and it 832 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 4: got completely overshadowed. And so this was like week four 833 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 4: with all of those remember those Taylor Swift Easter eight 834 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 4: things from the New Heights podcast. And I just wonder 835 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 4: if negotiations broke down and they're like, all right, we 836 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 4: can't come to a deal. 837 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like Taylor's not going to do it. Could 838 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 5: we go back to Adele? 839 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 9: No? 840 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 5: Adele said, if she's a second show, she's not going 841 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 5: to do it. We got this less. 842 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: That's that's literally how literally how it works, though, it's 843 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: how it works. Did Glorious Stephan ever do the halftime show? 844 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know. It hasn't been 845 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: in the last twenty years. 846 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: Anybody know Sam did Glorious? Did Glorious Stephan? Let's just 847 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: say sorry, yeah, Stephan do the halftimes show? 848 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: Looks like nineteen ninety two and then with nineteen ninety. 849 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: Five, Rhythm is going to get you. Rhythm is going She. 850 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 3: Appeared several times a year halftime shoot. 851 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but Jay stew like, you're right, that's how it works. 852 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of how it always works, you know. And 853 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: and why would you go get Taylor Swift? Why women 854 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: girls love her? Right, and then Evel was like, eh, 855 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: not for us. Who is the other one? You said, oh, Adele, 856 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: same thing. It's not our target demo. Right. It just 857 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: feels weird because the dude and they're like, well, I 858 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't know any of the songs. Hey, you 859 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: know what if you don't know that any of the 860 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: bad bunny songs get in line? Needed do I? But 861 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: it's like every time you watch every year, when you 862 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: watch the Grammys, I don't know any of this music. 863 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: Turn it down. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You listen 864 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio, and we are so honored to 865 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: be joined by Tom Telesco, former general manager of the 866 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us for his weekly 867 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: visit here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's go with the 868 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: national games and we'll go kind of in reverse. We'll 869 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: reverse engineer it. Right. Cowboys Packers again on paper, is 870 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: one of those why would this be close? Right? Cowboys 871 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: haven't stopped anybody all year? Then offensively where they've been 872 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: really good, they didn't have CD LAMB and early on 873 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: it looked like Packers were the dominant team. Ends up 874 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: being a forty forty tie what's wrong with the Packers defense? 875 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 8: First, you know, with the game, I was thinking the 876 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 8: same thing, that this could go, you know, blowout pretty 877 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 8: hard on green Bay side. And then it's funny because 878 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 8: I just I just read a book recently about the 879 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 8: nineteen sixty at Harvard Yale season, and it was here 880 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 8: that Yale was a huge favorite in the game and 881 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 8: Harvard came back there like a age fourth quarter comeback, 882 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 8: tied the game, and game ended a tie, and the 883 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 8: headline in the Student Harbord Student newspaper was Harvard BTL 884 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 8: twenty nine to twenty nine. And that's the kind of 885 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 8: way I felt about the game yesterday with Dallas and 886 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 8: green Bay. I mean, the tie for Dallas is actually 887 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 8: I mean, you don't really count world victories, but it 888 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 8: kind of is considering they were pretty big underdog going 889 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 8: into the game. But to me, the biggest thing, like 890 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 8: Dak Proscott continues to show when he's healthy he's one 891 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 8: of the best quarterbacks in the league. And I know 892 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 8: there's always a magnifying glass on him trying to pick 893 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 8: out the flaws, and everybody has their flaws, but you know, 894 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 8: he played out a good defense with Green Bay and 895 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 8: He did it with a banged up offensive line, an 896 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 8: average run game, and then missing CD Lamb, which I 897 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 8: think was it should have been a bigger deal than 898 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 8: it was because with Green Bay you asked, like, what's 899 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 8: the problem with their defense or their their front sevens outstanding. 900 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 8: The one hole that they've had and they have right 901 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 8: now and he saw it going into the year, was 902 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 8: the corner position. You know, are they good enough at 903 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 8: corner to take this defense where it needs to go. 904 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 8: They've got two predominantly nickel corners are playing outside now 905 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 8: with Nate Hobbs and DeShawn Nixon, and those two guys 906 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 8: are excellent Nichols as outside corners. They're still finding their feet. 907 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 8: They're not quite there yet. And they got Javon Bullard 908 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 8: playing nickel, who's, you know, kind of a safety slash corner, 909 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 8: and you know, those guys they had a hard time 910 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 8: against the Cowboys receivers, and that it was without CD Lambs, 911 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 8: So that's a bit of a concern. But the end 912 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 8: of the Cowboys, the Packers are really good. They're going 913 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 8: to be fine in the end. Like every every team 914 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 8: has its weaknesses. But I just thought Dak Prescott was 915 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 8: amazing in the game. 916 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it does feel like their faith in 917 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: Dak is being rewarded right that forever. You know, Jerry's 918 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: trying to tell us Heason League quarterback, and we all roll. 919 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: What's what's better about Dak this year than in previous years. 920 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 8: He's healthy, He's healthy for you this year as opposed 921 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 8: to the last couple. But he's doing a lot of 922 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 8: the same things he's done in prior years. You know, 923 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 8: he's very accurate with the football. He's got good enough 924 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 8: arms strength. It's not a cannon, but it's certainly good enough. 925 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 8: He's accurate, And to me, the biggest thing with Dak, 926 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 8: he's just a tremendous leader and he has the ability 927 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 8: to pull the players along with him and really lead. 928 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 8: And I got a chance to see that. We had 929 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 8: scrimmaged and practice at joint practice with the Cowboys twice, 930 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 8: So being on the practice field and watching how he 931 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 8: operated with the offense and operated with the coaches, I 932 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 8: thought was really really impressive. And you can see that 933 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 8: with that team, like his teammates believe in him offense 934 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 8: and defense. So you know, I just thought he did 935 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 8: a great He's done this before, but obviously the last 936 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 8: couple of years, he had some injury that's kind of 937 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 8: slowed him down a little bit. He could still get 938 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 8: out and move the pocket when he has to, but 939 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 8: I thought he played excellent last night. 940 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: Stull Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously, now 941 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: Lamar's hurt, but previously that what's wrong with Baltimore. 942 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 8: Well, it's a lot of injuries right now, and you know, 943 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 8: going into this season, you know, I am probably some 944 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 8: others just felt like, you know, to me, they had 945 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 8: the best roster in the NFL. I thought that, you know, 946 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 8: if you want to pick some holes, I thought they 947 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 8: lack some depth on the defensive line. And you know, 948 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 8: maybe that's a bigger hole than I had anticipated, because 949 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 8: that's showing up right now on defense, but they've just 950 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 8: got so many injuries that they're trying to get past. 951 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 8: And then offensively, they just to me, they have to 952 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 8: be more than just Derrick Henry and Veay Flowers. So 953 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 8: the last couple of weeks you've seen Andrews the teddand 954 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 8: get more involved, which they have to do. But I 955 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 8: do think they need to spread the ball around a 956 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 8: little bit more to the receivers. Like last year. Yesterday, 957 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 8: Hopkins had one target, Bateman had two targets. So and 958 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 8: this was in a game where they were down early 959 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 8: and had to throw to get back into the game. 960 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 8: So they have to weather the storm on defense right now. 961 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 8: With the amount of injuries that have I saw, I 962 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 8: just saw it before I came on with you that 963 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 8: Marlon Humphrey has a calf injury. That's never good for 964 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 8: a corner because there's those ten to linger. But I 965 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 8: will say this is, you know, the this is what 966 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 8: consistency at the head coach really matters. And they've had 967 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 8: issues like this early in the season before and usually 968 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 8: John Harbaugh can get a figured out and that's where 969 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 8: they're what they're gonna have to. 970 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: Do right now. How Dan Rodgers look to you, he 971 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: looked out. 972 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 8: Standing, and but to me, better than what he looked 973 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 8: is really what Arthur Smith did with the offense. I mean, 974 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 8: they finally they ran the ball much better. And I 975 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 8: do think that offensive line is built to run the ball, 976 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 8: probably better than mass protection. So to me, what I 977 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 8: saw Arthur Smith do is, you know, if we're if 978 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 8: we're going to be leaky and pass protection we get, 979 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 8: we need to get the ball out extremely quick, So 980 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,439 Speaker 8: the ball came out fast, five percentage throws and gave 981 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 8: all the receivers run after catch opportunities. And with with 982 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, like there's nobody better with ball placement to 983 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 8: put it on a receiver in a spot we can 984 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 8: guess the ball, run and get some yards after contact, 985 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 8: run some yards aft to catch, and then also making 986 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 8: that those back shoulder throws, there's nobody better that they 987 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 8: can do that, so that can kind of make up 988 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 8: for their lack of pass protection with what they're going 989 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 8: to have to do. And he's so accurate with the 990 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 8: football and the receivers made plays for him. 991 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco, 992 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 1: former general manager Chargers Raiders, joining us on the program. 993 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen gets accused of sign stealing by the San 994 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, most notably their DEFENSI. According to 995 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: Robert Sala, who also just happens to be the former 996 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: Jets head coach, what's going on there? 997 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty pretty cool little side story from from yesterday. 998 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 8: In the end, it won't mean a whole lot, but 999 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 8: I do agree with what Shanahan said, Like, you know, 1000 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 8: if you're doing it legally. Why he's so sensitive about 1001 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 8: the subject. But this is why I don't understand, is, 1002 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 8: you know, defensive coordinators have had coach of player radio 1003 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 8: communication in usually the linebacker in his helmet since two 1004 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 8: thousand and eight, so you know, there's no signals that 1005 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 8: are needed. You you radio in your call to your linebacker, 1006 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 8: and most NFL teams huddle. It's a huddle league anyways, 1007 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 8: and the linebacker then gives the call to the rest 1008 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 8: of the defense. So didn't quite understand why would even 1009 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 8: come up in the press conference at San Francisco. They 1010 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 8: must have been worried about a little bit. But my question, 1011 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 8: would you know why even signaling at all? Because you 1012 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 8: don't have to. And by the way, that two thousand 1013 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 8: and eight, when this came in, it's there is some 1014 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 8: significant significance of that because Spikey was in two thousand 1015 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 8: and seven. Now, the Patriots did illegally with video and 1016 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 8: CAPE signals and even broke it down in game. But 1017 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 8: you know, to do it the old fashioned way, which 1018 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 8: is basically your eyes. For some times it's binoculars and 1019 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 8: a pen and paper. That's totally legal. And I was 1020 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 8: a former pro scout and that was one of my 1021 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 8: jobs on the road when I was advancing team was 1022 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 8: with to get their signals and do it, you know, 1023 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 8: the legal way obviously, and you know that for me, 1024 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 8: this is way before they had the coach a player 1025 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 8: defensive radio system because once that came in, the signals 1026 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 8: basically went away. But the funny part is the defensive 1027 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 8: coordinators they're kind of are notorious, and certainly we're notorious 1028 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 8: for never changing their signals, like not using multiple signal 1029 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 8: signal callers and the sidelines you know, you know who's 1030 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 8: live or don't know who's live, for not blocking their signals, 1031 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 8: and this is you know, way back when, but a 1032 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 8: lot of guys just didn't do a very good job 1033 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 8: of kind of blocking them. It's not hard, but you know, 1034 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 8: we used to have a book on a lot of 1035 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 8: certain defensive coordinators when I was with the Colts. So 1036 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 8: but on both sides of this is probably just more 1037 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 8: talk than anything else. They shouldn't affect the game much. 1038 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 8: But I just thought it was interesting to watch yesterday. 1039 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so is it your opinion, because the Patriots defense was, Hey, 1040 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: we film all this stuff all the time, anyway, why 1041 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: can't we film the signals being sent in corresponding with 1042 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: with with the plays being played. 1043 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 8: You do you that's just go ahead? 1044 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: No, no, go go ahead, that's just what no. 1045 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 8: I just I say. That's That's just been been the 1046 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 8: rule for as own as I've been in the league, 1047 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 8: that you can. Everybody will try and steal signals what 1048 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 8: they can, but but you just couldn't use any any 1049 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 8: electronic surveillance or videotaping of signals. That's just that's just 1050 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 8: part of the rules of the NFL. 1051 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, But should they but should they be able to. 1052 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 8: I don't think so. I mean to me that that 1053 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 8: takes it to a second level, you know, with whatever 1054 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 8: Michigan did, I mean to have have cameras on the 1055 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 8: sideline shooting the other defensive coordinator, to have a camera 1056 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 8: up in the press box shooting the other defensive coordinator, 1057 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 8: and then trying to break it down in game. To me, 1058 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 8: that's just way too much. Look, if you can do 1059 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 8: it with your eyes, with binoculars, with pen and paper, 1060 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 8: that's that's fine. But in the end it doesn't really 1061 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 8: matter anymore. Because offense and defense both have player to 1062 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 8: coach or coach. The player communications system so there's really 1063 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 8: no need for a whole lot of signaling, except if 1064 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 8: you're in a two minutes drill that sometimes because you're 1065 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 8: not huddling, you have to signal to your dbs. But 1066 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 8: all you got to do is change your signals. I 1067 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 8: mean these you know there's you've got to be smart 1068 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 8: enough to do that, and then you don't have a problem. 1069 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: Uh the Chargers kind of quick here, Chargers, you know, 1070 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: now Joe Alt gets hurt and uh, justin Herbert couldn't 1071 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: get couldn't get comfortable all day. How hard is that 1072 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: to fix on the fly When all of a sudden, 1073 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: now you're offensive line, your your two tackles ranger, it's. 1074 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 8: Gonna be difficult. And Minnesota is going through the same thing. 1075 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 8: I mean, sometimes you can weather an injury or two, 1076 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 8: but when you're when you hit like three injuries on 1077 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 8: the offensive line, it's just hard to have that much step, 1078 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 8: which the Chargers don't have right now to catch up. Now. 1079 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 8: Luckily with Joe Walt, you know, hopefully that's gone a 1080 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 8: long term injury. Makai becked in the Guard he'll be 1081 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 8: back at some point soon. Looks like only you know, 1082 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 8: the only season endors we shaan slater, but they're gonna 1083 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 8: have to try and piece together and the time being, 1084 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 8: I thought a big takeaway yesterday was the rookie o'marrion Hampton. 1085 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 8: He's a stud. I mean, he's never done at first contact. 1086 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 8: He just punishes tacklers, but then he's got some breakaway 1087 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 8: speed if the space is there. So we're probably gonna 1088 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 8: see a lot more of him moving forward because he can. 1089 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 8: You know, if you keep pounding with him, that can 1090 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 8: slow down to rush a little bit. Throw a couple 1091 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,959 Speaker 8: of screens slow some people down, but you know, flip 1092 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 8: side that is. You know, the Giants have a really 1093 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 8: really impressive front seven, especially a front four, and they 1094 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 8: controlled the game, which they should have against what was 1095 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 8: left on the Chargers offensive line. 1096 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: Hey, the Packers got called they were at like the 1097 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: one inch line or six inch line and they got 1098 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: called for a ball adjustment where they where the center 1099 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: just kind of adjusted and moved the ball slightly forward. 1100 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that called there? 1101 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've seen a called usually, uh, you know on 1102 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 8: a fourth and one when you're either going you know, 1103 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 8: quarterbacks make or touch push, you see the centers kind 1104 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 8: of move the ball forward. You see long stampers do 1105 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 8: it sometimes. My sense is they probably gave him a 1106 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 8: warning before that. He may have done it in the 1107 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 8: game earlier. I'm not sure it's obviously it's not called 1108 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 8: very often. You don't see it, but look if it's 1109 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 8: if it's fourth down and you know in a foot 1110 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 8: and you've stretched it out six more in that gifts 1111 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 8: at center. Because the way he would line up, he'd 1112 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 8: line up closer to the ball and then kind of 1113 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 8: stretch it out. There's definitely an advantage that's there. So 1114 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 8: I thought that was a good call by the officials. 1115 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: He's Tom Telesco. He joined us every week here on 1116 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlip Show. Tom, great stuff, awesome insight, really 1117 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: appreciates being our guest. 1118 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 8: Awesome thanks Doug. 1119 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 1: All Right, Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.