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Speaker 1: Monday Morning Podcast. I just finished watching the Sixers debacle

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Speaker 1: against Atlanta. Never has a team had this much talent

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Speaker 1: and been so hard to watch at the end of

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Speaker 1: a basketball game than the Sixers. But you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: say something I said during the week on television is

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you need a really bad fight to realize

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Speaker 1: it's time to get a divorce. And you really needed

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Speaker 1: that ending. And this series for the Mbiad Simmons relationship

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Speaker 1: to break. It just doesn't work. Simmons can't be on

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Speaker 1: a bit of a turnover mess. Sometimes at the end

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Speaker 1: of games in the half court set. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: But they're so talented that you'll keep talking yourself into it.

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Speaker 1: I compare it to a Hollywood relationship. Oh they're both beautiful, Oh,

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Speaker 1: their careers are on fire. How does this marriage not

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Speaker 1: work well, probably because you know they don't sacrifice or

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Speaker 1: they're not committed to each other. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: with Embiid and Simmons, it's just two ships passing in

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Speaker 1: the night. Neither game works for the other. They don't

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Speaker 1: like each other. It's well documented during the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: Both made the All Star Game. They wouldn't fly together

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Speaker 1: games don't fit, the personalities don't fit. But they're so

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Speaker 1: gifted that you talk yourself into keeping them together for

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Speaker 1: years and years. You needed this, You needed to lose

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Speaker 1: to a marginally talented Atlanta team. You needed to look

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Speaker 1: ugly at the end of games. It's just a basketball team.

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Speaker 1: That's Situationally, when you have to take Ben Simmons off

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Speaker 1: the floor, you know, Seth Curry becomes far more valuable

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Speaker 1: you're trailing by a few points. So I watched the

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Speaker 1: Sixers and I think, hey, we had to break this

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Speaker 1: but not championship chemistry. And Doc Rivers will take a

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Speaker 1: ton of heat for it, because whenever a team loses

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Speaker 1: games close, the coach takes the hit. You know, people

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Speaker 1: killing Quinn Snyder because he didn't go small in the

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Speaker 1: series against the Clippers ever, But the reality is his

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Speaker 1: best players Donovan Mitchell, and he was playing at about

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Speaker 1: eighty percent. Well, so, Mike Conley's not healthy, Donovan Mitchell's hurt.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to beat a Clipper team. Even with

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Speaker 1: and they're certainly imperfect. But the Philadelphia situation, how many

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Speaker 1: coaches are we going to fire before we realize Simmons

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Speaker 1: and embiid talented. It's a bad marriage on the court,

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Speaker 1: off the court, it just doesn't work. And you needed

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Speaker 1: to lose this series, and the way they lost it

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Speaker 1: was perfect ugly. More talent had leads and little young

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Speaker 1: All right, let's bring in my friend Marcus Thompson Barry

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Speaker 1: a columnist for The Athletic. He's written books on k

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Speaker 1: D and about Steph Curry. Steph Curry Golden was the

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Speaker 1: first time that I knew a lot about Marcus Thompson.

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Speaker 1: I think he's so connected, he's got a great way

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Speaker 1: in the volume. We just can't afford him. Shit, guy

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Speaker 1: is expensive, that's all I know. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's about time I've been expensive in my life. You

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Speaker 1: know how many times I've gold myself out for five

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Speaker 1: watching that Sixers stuff. By the way, as one of

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Speaker 1: the guys on the staff said, Kevin Herder has never

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Speaker 1: Kevin Herder and Trey Young, aust Ben Simmons. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's just let's cut to the chase. I said this

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Speaker 1: on the Herd this week. This is how it had

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable that this team wasn't able to at least

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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson had to sit here and watch that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he dragged Aaron McKee and Eric Snow to the finals

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Speaker 1: They got to an Eastern Conference final, not only on

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Speaker 1: last four minutes. But that's that's how you be Philly, right,

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Speaker 1: game six, and it's like, all right, maybe this thing

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Speaker 1: you you're bigger, you're you have more veterans. We blame

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Speaker 1: see it. They just played two nights ago while Phoenix

421
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: was arrested. This could be a good series, and there's

422
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: a higher probability that Chris Paul comes back and Kawhi doesn't, right,

423
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: which means Phoenix might get a little bit of bolster

424
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: of resources. I think this is a good matchup. The

425
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Speaker 1: difference for me is DeAndre Ayton. He is playing out

426
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: of his mind. Unbelievable. It's almost like everything you thought

427
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: about him that made him the number one pick click

428
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: this year in the playoffs, it was like Anthony David's

429
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: first round, Nicole Oh's the second round and nobody's phased them.

430
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: And look at him today, like all you Devin Booker

431
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: can do all his weaving because the moment you bring

432
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: extra to him, DeAndre Aden's gonna catch the ball, He's

433
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna dunk it every time. It's it's incredible how much

434
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: he's grown, like he's a monster, like he is, and

435
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: he's playing away above it here. If this is who

436
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: they are, if this is who they are. There is done.

437
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: What's funny if if do you remember Marcus DeAndre Ayton's

438
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: first year, he was a little lost at times, and

439
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: they were very lost. There were people saying he was

440
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: a bust. I mean there were people that were out

441
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: on it because he was a dominant college player at Arizona.

442
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: And I remember hearing people like scouts, They're like, I

443
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: don't know, he's lost. And by the way, this is

444
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: where a Chris Paul is so great. He can cinch

445
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: everything together. He's so smart. But you know, you know

446
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 1: what I like about them. Everybody always talks about positionless

447
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: basketball because Lebron's the Swiss army knife and Kevin Durant

448
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: can do everything. But they're actually constructed like an eighties team,

449
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: true point guard with a legitimate backup. So Chris Paul

450
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: only has to play thirty one minutes. Two athletic wings,

451
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Speaker 1: one old crowder, one young, a rim protector who can move,

452
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: and then they have bench players and they have a

453
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Speaker 1: star guard. If you look at how they're built, it's

454
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Speaker 1: not positionless. Everybody's got a defined role. And for me,

455
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Speaker 1: as a fan, I like watching them play. It feels

456
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: almost like eighties and nineties basketball. They're not position unless

457
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: they all have it. They know exactly what they do

458
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Speaker 1: and who they are, and the beauty of it is

459
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Speaker 1: they can switch up the style of play. For me,

460
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Speaker 1: what makes them so appealing is the diversity. Like they

461
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: can they can go half court, they can walk you

462
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: down and mid range you to death, right, or they

463
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: could go small just run. They got horses like bridges

464
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: and Booker eight is not slow. They can play that way.

465
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Speaker 1: They like, you know, styles make fights, right, they can

466
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: contrast however you want to play. It's exciting to watch.

467
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: They've got and they've got You're right, they're more They're

468
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: much more like the Barcley suns right than the seventh

469
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Speaker 1: seconds or less mash suns. Right. They're like just how

470
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Speaker 1: they're how they're set up. It is a very traditional,

471
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: even like the sizes. Right, they don't have a player

472
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: who's too small or too big for his position. Right,

473
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Speaker 1: Like there's everybody's like the height they're supposed to be,

474
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: which is well, Bacourt's perfect. The backcourt's perfect. So I

475
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Speaker 1: have this distribution. First veteran point guard who can score,

476
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Speaker 1: but he's a throwback. He's he plays defense. He yells

477
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Speaker 1: at people and he hits mid range. He's like an

478
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Speaker 1: eighties guard, but we all know that Devin Booker's the

479
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: true scoring guard. So that's a perfect backcourt. And he's

480
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Speaker 1: like six five, right, like he's not little. Yeah, and

481
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: then you have a backup to the veteran point who

482
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: can spell him for about twelve minutes a game. So like,

483
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Speaker 1: if you go back to the eighties and in like

484
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Speaker 1: the Laker teams, there was the Norm Nixon, there was

485
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Speaker 1: the Byron Scott, there was the Magic, there was the Cooper.

486
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Speaker 1: You always had this role and they all had roles.

487
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: Cooper played defense, Magic distributes. Nixon can shoot like, you know,

488
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: the whole positionless thing. Nothing against it. But yeah, that's

489
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Speaker 1: because Lebron and KD can do everything. But most players

490
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: do one or two things exceptionally well, Like everybody's trying

491
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: to make honest a three point shooter. Cut that shit out.

492
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: He's a big like he is within six feet, he's

493
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: unstoppable outside of it, let him shoot, like, let guys

494
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: do what they did to shoot right, Like he's pulling

495
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: up with twenty seconds of the shot, collect like, please

496
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: stop that, and that's you know, uh Eighten right, you

497
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: don't see him dancing on the perimeter trying to chuck three.

498
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: He's trying to like he's like, Yo, I'm six foot

499
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: eleven and I'm a beast, so you're about to get

500
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: this work. So there's Look, Monte Williams is an old

501
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: school guy, right, so you know they're getting a bit

502
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: of that that feel and that vibe. It's it's that

503
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: is a very unique take. They are old They're they're

504
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: an old school team. This is like a you know,

505
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: afro and butterfly collar type team, you know what I'm saying,

506
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: Like they're throwback. It's like eighties night, seventies night in

507
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Phoenix every night. Like and the crowd is he throwback right,

508
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Like they got the Rockets situation going. They're fighting in

509
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: the crowd like a Raiders game. Like you know what

510
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, yeah, this is actually a good throwback team.

511
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: And look they got they got the two best mid

512
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: range shooters in the game, and Chris Paul and Devin Booker,

513
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Like they are literally killing teams with jabs and body

514
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: blows like just all game long. This is throwback. Kevin

515
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: Johnson will be proud, Dan Marley will be proud somewhere like,

516
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm only making the threes that are created for me.

517
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Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not thinking thirty footers off the dribble

518
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: like everybody else. So I think we both agree Milwaukee

519
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: should be in Atlanta. I think I think I'm gonna

520
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: go with Phoenix. But to your point, I think it's

521
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: a long series. I think both these coaches are really capable.

522
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: These guys, I mean, Tylu did a great job. You know,

523
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: It's funny everybody was banging on Quinn Snyder. And my

524
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: takeaway is when you're a guard dependent team and Conley

525
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: came into the series hurt and Donovan was hurt by

526
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: game two, you're not beating the clips like they just

527
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: it's a wrap. They're just not gonna beat them. So

528
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, he should have taken Rudy Gobert off the court,

529
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: try to go smaller. But I mean, that's what they are,

530
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: That's what the Jazz are. But I do think we

531
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: both agree Clipper's Sons is going six or seven, like

532
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: it's a real series. Yeah, I'm not like, I think

533
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Paul George is incredible. I think we like to make

534
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: fun of him, but in the end, he's a really

535
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: good player. Oh yeah, like like he's a monster, ty Lou.

536
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the opposite of Bootenholzer. He will

537
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: adjust in a heartbeat. Right, he's making that like, Okay,

538
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I figured out what we're gonna do, let's switch, let's

539
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: do it right now. So I like him on the

540
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: bench figuring out how they're going to counter this stuff, right,

541
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: how they're gonna do it. So yeah, I do think

542
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: you're in a sluck fest. I wonder will the Phoenix

543
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Bucks NBA Finals be a draw? Are we going? Okay,

544
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that, but and I said this

545
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: the other day on TV. I said, we think it's

546
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: all big markets and stars, but Brooklyn didn't get ratings

547
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: from their home fans this year. The teams that draft

548
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: and develop players get better ratings. That's just the numbers

549
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: this year. I think people thought that Michael Jordan Utah

550
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Jazz series wouldn't get a number. But it was a

551
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: great story. Michael Tremors. Yes, And I look at this,

552
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: and I've been saying this, Joey Taylor and I talk

553
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: about this on the air. I'm like, these are good stories.

554
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Brooklyn falling Milwaukee finally Simmons disaster. I think Phoenix is

555
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: a captivating story. I think the Clippers are interesting so

556
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: that all these injuries Marcus have created all this drama.

557
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I think Milwaukee Phoenix. I

558
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: think it's a good story and it's got enough star

559
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: power for me to watch it does. I'm captivated by

560
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: these respective fan bases who are starving for this. Right.

561
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: It reminds me of when the Warriors first went right

562
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: after forty years, and it was like there's a certain

563
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: energy that everybody kind of kept kind of like like

564
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: it's magnetic towards right, Like you're like, okay, yo, it's

565
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: crazy in Phoenix, Right, it's wild right now with Phoenix,

566
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: like yo, you know, like you kind of get that

567
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: vibe where you want to watch. Also, like the draft

568
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: point is really good because we've watched a lot of

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00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: these guys like grow up in a sense, we've watched

570
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: them fail. We watched what they couldn't do if we

571
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: watched them get better at it. We watched Jana Steel

572
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: try to shoot threes like he Kobe or something, right,

573
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: But Devin Booker wasn't this good always. He's developed his

574
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: game and we followed him. So yeah, this is the

575
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: who can have their Jordan crying on the ground moment, right,

576
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Like I finally did it, right, finally, after all this time.

577
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: It's either gonna be honest, or it's gonna be Chris

578
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Paul right, or it's gonna be Devin Booker, who had

579
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: never won anything before this, been trying to tell everybody

580
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: up a star, up a star, and now he gets

581
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: to prove it. In that sense, It's very fresh, right,

582
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: this is a there's something fresh about this. This is

583
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: like like like a mint julip, right, Like, this is

584
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like a great, a great fresh drink. We get a

585
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: palate cleanser, you know, because you know what's not here.

586
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: You know it's not here. Lebron stands arguing with Steph

587
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: stands and people tearing down each other off silliness. It'll

588
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: be all fresh, and we'll get to create new reasons

589
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: to hate on each other. And we need some new

590
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: reasons after a pandemic. All right, I want to do

591
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: some topics with you. You're incredibly tied in not only

592
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: to the NBA but the Warriors, and you start looking

593
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: at the Ben Simmons situation. There's been a lot of

594
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: rumors about You know, Simmons could fit Golden State. They

595
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: don't need his shooting, they need his defense. They need

596
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: his size because they can get small and they can

597
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: ship like Wiseman Andrew Wiggins multiple picks. Do you why

598
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: that Simmons Warriors rumor at all? Yeah, I mean, I

599
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: don't think they're into Simmons that much. I think there's

600
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: a split. There are some people who are like, man,

601
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: give me that much talent, I'll make it work. But

602
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: I think the Draymond problem is a big concern. They

603
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: already have a guy who's kind of like that, right,

604
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: but Draymond is like a little bit, not a little bit.

605
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: He's definitely more aggressive offensively, but he doesn't stick to three.

606
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: You don't have to guard him like that. So I

607
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: think they're concerned about putting two of those guys together.

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00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they pull a trigger. But at

609
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: this point, look, Hollin, the price ain't what it used

610
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: to be. So it might be like, yo, I got this,

611
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I got this Mercedes for you for five hundred dollars.

612
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: It's like who wouldn't take it? Right? At some point? Right? Right?

613
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: Like it's like yo, I mean, no, I talked about

614
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: this the other day, I said, and Beat, once a

615
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: big gets hurt, you better move him early. He's just

616
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna lose market value every injury. Listen, I love him, Beat,

617
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: He's the closest thing I've seen to Shack. But I'm

618
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: not giving you a ton for him. I'm baking in

619
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: his injuries. I'm just gonna stay as a GM brother.

620
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Where do you want me to go on that? This

621
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: is not a nine year player. This may not be

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00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: a four year player. Facts, yeah, I'm not. I think

623
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: the price is dropping. I think the price is dropping,

624
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: not just because like you got the injuries, would him

625
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: be you got the fact that he just didn't close

626
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: and this is not the first time he didn't close

627
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: out Atlanta and wherever he goes. You know, he's a

628
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna want the ball. Ben Simmons stock way

629
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: down right. You gotta you can't play him at the

630
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: end of games, though. I wonder if he hung out

631
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: with Clay would this be an issue. Clay would have

632
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: him shooting free throws at eighty percent. Ray Hank with

633
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: Clay is a life solution. Clay right now is swimming

634
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area with in the literal Bay put

635
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons with Clay for an offseason. I bet you

636
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: we shoot eighty percent from Free to Live Well. Also,

637
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Simmons can give you nineteen to twenty two a game

638
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: as long as you you don't have a dominating big

639
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: fogging it up. So that's why it's perfect. That's why

640
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: he's perfect. You got Clay, you got Steph, you got Draymond,

641
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: and they're pushing it. He's incredible in transition, like you're

642
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: not asking him to do this. And also it's not

643
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: clashing with the big guy who needs to be posted

644
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: unless you know, somehow Chris Steve Kurr decides that, you know,

645
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn James Wiseman into Joela bed But I

646
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's happening it at all. But I think

647
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Simmons is a is a fit in the sense that

648
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: he can play the Warriors style and you don't need

649
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: a shooting. I just wouldn't give up a lot for

650
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: him after what we just saw. Now it's like I

651
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: got some used air Jordan's and you know what I'm saying,

652
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: maybe Wiggins right, Like I give Wiggins and Wiseman that's

653
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot. That was the price before. What was the

654
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: price for James Harden. It was like a pig or Okay,

655
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: how about Wiggins Wiseman and you give me your first

656
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: round pick. I get the six Ers number one pick,

657
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: but I'll give you Wiggins, Wiseman and Simmons. I get Simmons.

658
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I do that, Okay, So that's what I would do.

659
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: I would I give me Simmons in your first pick.

660
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Wiseman fits the warrior style, Marcus, I don't.

661
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: It's weird. It doesn't work to me. Nah, he's not

662
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: that type of guy. And they didn't play him like

663
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: that type of guy. Here's the problem. And maybe Ben

664
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Simmons is to answer this. He doesn't look like it anymore.

665
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: They just have to start preparing for life after Steph

666
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't, right. Maybe Steff is like, yeah,

667
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: cut that out. I got five years left. And it's like,

668
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: all right, whatever. And that's why I'd trade Wiseman if

669
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: I got to shot. If I get something good for him,

670
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I trade him. They're a little bit like no, but

671
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: they're thinking about what do we do when the orbit

672
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: of our universe is no longer? That guy, the part

673
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: of them probably thought that would start this year if

674
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: the Steph goes out and he looks amazing, and it's like, oh,

675
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: we got more time. So they have to think about

676
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: it at some point. But he just he's not a fit.

677
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: He can learn to be a fit, but that ain't

678
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: next year. No Wiseman, Yeah, Wiseman's timeline doesn't fit Clay

679
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: and Staffs. That doesn't match at all. So no question

680
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: you you give me a lineup with Steph Simmons Draymond

681
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: Clay and pick the fifth guy, somebody who can shoot

682
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: that you're gonna swarm. They gonna run the floor, they

683
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: can defend. They got two of the best shooters in history. Like,

684
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: it would be pretty potent. It would be pretty potent.

685
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the game, when it's

686
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: five minutes left and you gotta get a bucket, you

687
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: don't need Ben Simmons to carry you right, Like he's

688
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: catching the lob, he's finishing in transition. He's not like, yoh,

689
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: what was with Philly? By the way, every single thing

690
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: is an iso. Every single thing is an ISO. It's like, y'all,

691
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: can y'all do a five sick as a Princeton offense?

692
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: Can you get a backcut of some kind? Of motion

693
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: or something like it's not working. It's game seven. You

694
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: hear it gets the Hawks because of eight working? Why

695
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: are you sitting in Iceland, Tobias Harris and Joel mb

696
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: from the hash markets twenty eight feet away. It was ridiculous.

697
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons would do none of that on the worst

698
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: probably ever. Never see Kerr's like, yeah, dude, passed the

699
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: ball set of screen please. Yeah. So two issues in

700
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: the NBA, the Lucas situation in Dallas and the Zion

701
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: situation with the Pelicans. Now they feel like two different

702
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: situations to me. The Pelicans aren't going to be there long,

703
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think Zion and his family want to

704
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: waste six years like ad did. That feels different the

705
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Lucas situation. It's really interesting. Marcus Mark Cuban told me

706
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: that when they drafted Luca, they were getting a better

707
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Dirk and better much sooner, and they don't want to

708
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: waste nine, ten eleven years like they did with Nerk.

709
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: They're not going to make the same mistakes. So Donnie

710
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Nelson butchered the draft where he got Dennis Smith because

711
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell was four picks later, and then he butchered

712
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: the Porzingi steal because he's wildly overpaid for a two,

713
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: which he's not. He's he's up three or a four.

714
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, so I don't have a problem

715
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: with Donnie Nelson gone and Rick Carlisle sixty one and

716
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: he and Luca had tension. I don't have a problem

717
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: with him being gone. But I but I wonder this,

718
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: and this is something I've I've wondered for years, Marcus.

719
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a football state. Maybe Cubans too big of

720
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: a star, they don't land free agents, and Lucas too

721
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: good to wait for a draft pick to develop. They

722
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: got to go get a dog. And doubt. I don't

723
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: know what it is. Doubt what a players tell you

724
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: about Dallas, nobody goes there. I mean that. I'm sure

725
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: that has something to do with Texas, right, Like from

726
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: what I hear, it's a lot of deal. You want

727
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: to live in Texas. We have this thing out in

728
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: the Bay, you know, because it's so expensive, right and

729
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: people are like, oh man, for that about it. I

730
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: get this big house in Texas and the responses always,

731
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: but you gotta live in Texas. I do think there's

732
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: a I mean, there's a cultural disconnect there, right, I

733
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: do think that's a that's a big deal. And I

734
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: got so many family or my family from Houston and

735
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: a lot of them live in Dallas. They always tell

736
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: me I'm crazy to not leave the Bay Area. But

737
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I get it, like I see it. Uh, you're watching,

738
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: you're watching TV, you're paying you got the corner of

739
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: your eye watching what's going on in the world. It

740
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: probably you know, where are you kicking it at? Like

741
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: where you where's the heck? You know what I'm saying. Like,

742
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: it's just that Dallas just doesn't seem like the pop.

743
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Is this like urban center. I don't even know if

744
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: that's even accurate, but you you're right that it's also

745
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: why everybody had to go because you can't lose Luca.

746
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: You just can't. Like you can't. Nobody's coming there. Nobody's

747
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: coming there. Uh, and your only hope is if you

748
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: got Luca, somebody decides to team up with Luca. But

749
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a it's a great place that people

750
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: aren't aren't running to. It's not even a small market,

751
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: like it's huge like that. This is beautiful women, no

752
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: state tax. You're in the middle of the country, so

753
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: you never have a five and a half six hour

754
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: fly correct everything that you don't have to Portland three

755
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: and a half, your money goes longer, right, Yeah, I

756
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: mean it would make a lot of sense. For some reason,

757
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: they cannot get free agents they or they get them

758
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: like a little bit past the prime. You know, the

759
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd types right like now they're they're markets. There

760
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: are a lot of people like Luca wore out Rick Carlisle.

761
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: Luca's barking at people, Luca and his technicals. There's an

762
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: argument to be made that Luca doesn't get along with

763
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: port zingis that he's a little he's a little enigmatic,

764
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah he is. He's he's the lucas a

765
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: superstar and he knows it and it's how it's how

766
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: superstars are, right Uh. I think that's what they more

767
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: than anything, need to get somebody in there to say, hey,

768
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: here's how we do things. Luca, you're incredible, you're gonna

769
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. We're gonna take you to

770
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: a whole nother level. But you're not about to run

771
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: this thing right And there's a there's a price to

772
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: pay later when you don't get these players into the

773
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: right mindset right when you when the players thinking I'm

774
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: gonna get you about it here, it's just not good

775
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: for the whole chemistry of things that we've seen that

776
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: throughout the league. Somebody's got to get to him, and

777
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: it ain't Rick Carlisle, right clearly, and Rick Carlisle's got

778
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: a ring by the way, you know you're not listening

779
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: to Rick Carlisle. Question becomes who are you listening to?

780
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: And you see Stavangun He's like, I'm not doing this anymore,

781
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: like I'm not sitting around here try to coddle these

782
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: kids like I'm a veteran, right, So they need somebody

783
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: in there who can grow with Luca because he's clearly

784
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: even with the refs, right like, he's clearly like, yo,

785
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a diva and here's how it should be.

786
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: And I know who I am and I know what

787
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: y'all need for me, and so I'm kind of get

788
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: my way. But that's not that makes it tough to build.

789
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: It makes it tough to win. And that stuff shows

790
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: up in the Eastern Conference finals, Western Conference finals. That

791
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: shows up in the big moments, right, That's where it

792
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: shows up. And don't show up in the regular season.

793
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: It shows up in the moment you need it when

794
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: you need these guys and you need, you know, somebody

795
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: to tell you you are playing the wrong way. Let's

796
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: get this straight. So there's some potential there, but somebody's

797
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: got to take control of that situation. The coach and

798
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: the GM out. Everybody knows this is Luca Squad, right,

799
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: it's Luca squad, Like, hey, you come in, you answer

800
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: the Luca, you kiss the ring, and that makes a

801
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But somebody's got to be there who's like, yeah, nah,

802
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: be this is not how it's going down. And I'm

803
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: telling you this because I think you could be great

804
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: and we could really win here. They need somebody like

805
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: that in there. Maybe maybe they need to know what

806
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: they need, like a Chris Paul type. Who could that be?

807
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: Somebody to be like, hey, Luca, how about you pass

808
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: the ball? How about you go stand over there this time?

809
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I got this. Uh. They really need that something pretty tough,

810
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know how they're gonna get it. I

811
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: really don't know how they're gonna get it. No. Mark Cuban,

812
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: in an interview acknowledge that they got to have somebody

813
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: that spells him six minutes a half, so he doesn't

814
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: have to become James Harden and literally soa ball centric.

815
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you watched them against the Clippers. He was

816
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: dying at the end of these games. And he's gotta

817
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: get in shape. Sometimes, gotta get him in shape too.

818
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: You gotta get him in shape, can't. What do you

819
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: make of Zion's family in his ear like listen, Gayl

820
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: Bench I said this the other day. The Pelicans are

821
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Gayl Benson's side hustle. It's a football family. They're great

822
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: NFL owners, they have a great front office. The Pelicans,

823
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: they bought them basically because they were people in Louisiana

824
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: that could afford them. The NBA demanded the franchise stay.

825
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: They paid three hundred and thirty eight million. That's probably

826
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million under what they were worth.

827
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: They could sell them for four times as much. Gayl

828
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Benson's losing money. The attendance isn't great, the ratings are terrible,

829
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: even with Zion. You know, I said this, There's never

830
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: been a player that didn't take the contract extension. And

831
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: I said this six months ago. I said Zion could

832
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: be the first because players now not only have NBA

833
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: revenue streams and shoe streams, they have social media streams.

834
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: They got three revenue streams. And I think if you

835
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: put Zion in a Los Angeles or a New York Marcus,

836
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Speaker 1: I think he makes the money back. I think he's

837
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Speaker 1: the first player that can do it in New York.

838
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: He's Zion in New York would go nuts crazy. This

839
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: is one of those situations where I'm like, what are

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00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: we doing? We all know how this is ended. He's

841
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: not playing fifteen years in New Orleans, so what are

842
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: we doing? What are we doing here? Like like here,

843
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm not in Zion's family, but Zion,

844
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm in Zion's family on this one. Like yo, I

845
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: don't even know why they didn't freeze the envelope from

846
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like what are you doing? Adams? Like we

847
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: like this is the time to do it, Like, get

848
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: the guy in New York? What are we doing here?

849
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: This is not this is not a place for professional basketball.

850
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: New Orleans is an incredible city. You go to New

851
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints lsu French Quarter and nobody remembers anything after that. Right,

852
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: It's right, It's not like I've been there. I've been

853
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: there a million times. Incredible city. Nobody cares about the

854
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Pelicans like and look, yes they do got a nice

855
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Speaker 1: little crowd there, but that's not what makes you billions

856
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's not. I'm sorry. The people in

857
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: the arena are not where the billions come from. The

858
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: people in the arena are lit. They they're they're they're

859
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: loyal fans. They out there, they got their little color

860
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: T shirts on and everything. They're gonna be there. It's great.

861
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: I was in there when it was Steph you know,

862
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: his little thing, and I was like, yo, do Orleans

863
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: kind of lit? That's not what does it are? People

864
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: turn on their TVs to watch it right like, are

865
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: casual fans into it? And that's just what New Orleans

866
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have for basketball that make him a bad city.

867
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: It just means you don't need to be squaddering one

868
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: of the great stars of the league potentially in a

869
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Speaker 1: place where nobody's gonna see you like that. For me,

870
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: it just makes the more sense. Like you said, they're

871
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: not gonna be there, it doesn't make sense. Or or

872
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: keep on a team and harry up the Seattle expedition

873
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, send Science to Seattle. Do that. I think

874
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: the best case scenario you hire Chauncey Billups and then

875
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Mike Shashevski as a consultant, and for two years, you

876
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of placate the situation, you make it work. And

877
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: then if I'm Zion, maybe I signed a one year

878
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: extension if I could do that. But I think he

879
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: looks at a D. I mean, listen, Chris paul I

880
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: looked it up last week. He wanted out, a D

881
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: wanted out Science, family wants out. We know the game here.

882
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: If this is not where stars want to play, No,

883
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: it's not. And that's cool if you if you want

884
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: to have a team and just be like, you know,

885
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: the mid major Like yeah, But if I'm if if

886
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm the ownership of New Orleans, I'm like, this is

887
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: not the fight I'm fighting for right here. It's just

888
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: to keep basketball. Like, hey, basketball matters in New Orleans.

889
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: It's just LSU right, it's not right. It's not the Pelicans, right,

890
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: it matters the basketball games. Uh that that that happened

891
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: at halftime of the football game like that. Nobody cares

892
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It doesn't. New York's a great city. It

893
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: doesn't scream college football. New Orleans too. We got Stanford

894
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: a cow, nobody cares, nobody cares, nobody cares. We'll watch

895
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: the pro town. Yeah, absolutely, Man, we're pining for a

896
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: w NBA team out here, right, and nobody's going to like,

897
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Stanford women's basketball is about as big as

898
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: it gets out here for college right, That's yeah. But

899
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: like the ratings aren't like going crazy. It's just that's

900
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: how some towns are. Like, it's fine, it's all good.

901
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans is an incredible city that cares more about

902
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: the Saints than anything else. That's that's all good. But

903
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: that's not where Zions should be. Not not for my money.

904
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm with Zion's family on this one. Get my board

905
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: in New York. If that's what I'm saying, get them

906
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: out of there. And what's stopping anybody from saying the

907
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: money you'll lose by not signing. I got you what

908
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: you want? You want ethereum, you want some big coin,

909
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: what you want, what you want to sign? We can

910
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: make up the difference. I got a little Dodge coin.

911
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: You knew, you know very well. When Durant went to

912
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Golden State, they hooked him up with some Silicon Valley guys.

913
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: Can't tell me they didn't, can't tell me otherwise you

914
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: know they did. That's I mean. The funny part is

915
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to be a transaction. It's just like, yo,

916
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm about to introduce you this person. There you go

917
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: from there, because all of them are like, oh my god,

918
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: it's Steph Curry. I want to meet Steph Like I

919
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: have seventy eight billion dollars, but you know what I

920
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: would really love to do. I love to meet Andrea Goodalla.

921
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the meeting happen right like, and there's

922
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: no like paperwork, but now you're in right. So I've

923
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: been thinking like, if they're not doing it, they're crazy

924
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: for not doing it, because that's what I would be doing. Like,

925
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Speaker 1: don't worry about this little middle left of Nah, I'm

926
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Speaker 1: gonna introduce you to the guy who runs LinkedIn. I

927
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: got you. That's my seals bits. Yeah, I listen. I

928
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: don't know what's legal and what's not, but the reality

929
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Speaker 1: can make it's not legal. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: not legal. I grew up Washington State. It wasn't wasn't

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Speaker 1: legal to smoke pot, in the seventy eighties and nineties,

932
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Speaker 1: and you didn't right, you followed the law like mostly

933
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Speaker 1: He's like, no, I wasn't pot it was mostly I

934
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Speaker 1: was mostly legal. Marcus Thompson. God, I love having you on.

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Speaker 1: It's just you're so conversational, you're SLF So can I

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Speaker 1: ask you something? Can? I? Um, I'm gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: Is it all right if I borrow your I want

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Speaker 1: to borrow the Phoenix as a traditional team set up. Well,

939
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Speaker 1: I read I read your books. I take shit out

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Speaker 1: of there, so I'm yeah, I'm yeah, that's that was

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. As you said, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about, I was like, yo, that might be

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Speaker 1: a good column. I might And then you know, how

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Speaker 1: we you know, I'm a newspaper God hard at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: You will put Colin Cowherd contributed to this article, but

946
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: you probably you don't have to. You probably wouldn't get that,

947
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: but it would be there in my head. Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: all I need the acknowledgement. That's a good one. I

949
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: like that. Great seeing you, great having you on, buddy.

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Speaker 1: I love being on what you made. You're the best.

951
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. How good is Marcus. He's one of

952
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: my favorite people in the business. As good as they get.

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Speaker 1: Follow at The Volume Sports on Twitter and Instagram, Rate review, subscribe.

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Speaker 1: That was a great forty minutes kick butt. Have a

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