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Speaker 2: the way a friend should be. He's my guy, the

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Speaker 2: one and only Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. How you doing? Andy?

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Speaker 2: You sound great? You sound like a million bucks. A

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Speaker 2: good weekend for you, a good Memorial Day week and

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Speaker 2: I hope for you and your family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great so far.

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Speaker 2: I just hope the weather hangs out.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you on the East Coast doesn't look too good.

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Speaker 2: They're predicting like perhaps even tornadoes, rain, thunder, whatever it

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Speaker 2: may be. But just stay safe. That so you got

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Speaker 2: to do. And you know, it's some big news in

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Speaker 2: the world of college athletics and basically off the field

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Speaker 2: right now, and a lot of people crying about it.

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Speaker 2: May be upset about it because it's change, you know,

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Speaker 2: and people don't like change. They don't like change. When

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Speaker 2: you give a ten dollar ability, you get change back,

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Speaker 2: that's the change they like. But as far as change,

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Speaker 2: they don't like it. Right, I say, mark this date down.

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Speaker 2: You'll remember it forever. That day May the twenty third,

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Speaker 2: the new before and the new after date in college athletics.

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Speaker 2: Why why do I say that, Bucket Brooks? I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you the NC DOUBLEA and their five power conferences officially

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Speaker 2: agreed to a settlement in the house versus the NC

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Speaker 2: DOUBLEA case. And what does that mean? That settlement includes

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Speaker 2: a payment. I get this two point seventy five billion

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Speaker 2: with a B billion dollars from the Anti Double E

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Speaker 2: to former student athletes from twenty sixteen arward who lost

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Speaker 2: out on nil opportunities, and the money will be paid

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Speaker 2: over a ten year period. Are you included, Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 2: Will you be getting some of this money?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I will not be getting any of that money. He

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Speaker 5: goes back only ten yards ten years, So I missed

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Speaker 5: out on that.

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Speaker 2: I feel bare fear about that. You know, all I

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Speaker 2: know is this, They're going to be people crying about

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Speaker 2: the change coming out of the woolwork. I know what

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Speaker 2: they're going to say, Well, you know, these athletes, first

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Speaker 2: of all, they're not professionals. They're amateurs. Number one and

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Speaker 2: number two, they get a scholarship. Isn't that enough? They

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Speaker 2: get a scholarship, you know, enough enough for that they're

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Speaker 2: getting paid. They should be getting paid at every conference

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Speaker 2: right now, the big five conferences, they're going to begin

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Speaker 2: to revenue share with the student athletes as a see fit.

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Speaker 2: That means that the money from these big, massive TV

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Speaker 2: deals will make its way where directly into the pockets

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Speaker 2: of the players. And really and truly, a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, you'd say that'll ever happen. It's happening now.

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Speaker 2: It has to happen, really and truly. With this lawsuit

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Speaker 2: being settled, what case, what choice did the nc double

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Speaker 2: have nt DOUBLEA have They would have gone out of business,

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Speaker 2: right Buck, I mean, really, you're seeing the NCUBAA that

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Speaker 2: had to give in. Their back was broken on this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to give in.

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Speaker 5: And what they did is they say out of the

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Speaker 5: case and hopes of eliminating future cases against it.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple other lawsuits that.

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Speaker 5: Are wrapped up in this original that would prevent athletes

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Speaker 5: from suing the NC Double A for the same kind

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Speaker 5: of you know, cases or liabilities and that. So it

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Speaker 5: was a business decision by the NC DOUBLEA. It's the

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Speaker 5: only way that they were going to stay in business

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Speaker 5: was to kind of try and find a middle ground

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Speaker 5: with the athletes to kind of get them off their

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Speaker 5: back when it came to seeking these damages.

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Speaker 3: It's a deal that was made the Power five conferences.

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Speaker 5: The Power five Conferences have agreed to pony it up,

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Speaker 5: and in doing so, they certainly have changed to college landscape,

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Speaker 5: and not only for what we talked about the two

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Speaker 5: major revenue sports, basketball and football, but for the non

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Speaker 5: revenue sports that would be impacted by this because it's

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Speaker 5: going to eliminate maybe some of the scholarship limits that

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Speaker 5: currently exist, and that is going to make some athletic

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Speaker 5: departments make some hard decisions on whether they keep some

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and now let's delve into this a little bit. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the change. The change at least in

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Speaker 2: my mind, means that you can earn a degree and

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Speaker 2: get paid for it. That's number one. Number two, I

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Speaker 2: think it may upset the NIL situation. What do I

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Speaker 2: mean by that? Yeah, certainly athletes are going to get

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Speaker 2: paid to go to various maybe a car dealerships, whoever

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Speaker 2: it may be, and get some money on the side.

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Speaker 2: But right now, if you're getting money from the school,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to really worry that much about the NIL.

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Speaker 2: Am I mistaken about that? If I'm an athlete, If

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Speaker 2: I'm a five star basketball player and three big time

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Speaker 2: blue chip schools recruit me, Kentucky maybe Kentucky, what is it,

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Speaker 2: John's New York. They recruit me and they don't really

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Speaker 2: have big time NIL money, but they're getting this money

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Speaker 2: from the NCUBA that could offset the lack of NIL

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think there are a couple of

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Speaker 5: teams that are a few things that are in play

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Speaker 5: with that. Yeah, the NIL, I think it's kind of

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Speaker 5: a separate part of that because NIL comes from collectives,

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Speaker 5: not from the school it self. So you're right, the

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Speaker 5: schools have to pony up in this lawsuit, they now

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Speaker 5: have to kind of share revenue. There's been some discussion

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Speaker 5: that the scholarships will be a part of the revenue

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Speaker 5: sharing model, so they'll be able to kind of maybe

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Speaker 5: discount some of that money by utilizing scholarships in those things.

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Speaker 5: But there's another suit where the highly touted prospect from

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Speaker 5: I guess he was at Florida when the Arizona States

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Speaker 5: now he's at Georgia. Rashida sued Florida and NIL, and

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Speaker 5: they're now going after collectives for making promises that they're

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Speaker 5: not keeping. So what is happening is college football college

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Speaker 5: sports are having a tightening of the belt between the

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Speaker 5: NIL situation, this situation where athletes are part of the

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Speaker 5: revenue sharing model.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's going to have to change.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully we'll kind of get some regulation with some

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Speaker 5: for all schools and the players kind of know exactly

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Speaker 5: what they're stepping into when they agree to these national

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Speaker 2: All right, the next question would be like, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously you know the power of five schools that will

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Speaker 2: get the big money, and rightfully so, they they have

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Speaker 2: the big money. They earn the big money to get

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Speaker 2: the big TV rights. What about the non power of schools.

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Speaker 2: What about schools like in the MAT Conference, Miami, Ohio, Toledo,

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Speaker 2: What kind of moneys will they have to maybe even

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Speaker 2: compete on the same level as the Power five schools

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Speaker 2: that couldn't compete with them really now? But I think

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Speaker 2: the distance is going to be even greater with this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is a really interesting one, Andy, because

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean, you definitely have the different

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Speaker 5: tiers when it comes to players and I mean schools.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got the top teams like your Alabama's

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Speaker 5: and LSU's teams playing the SEC that make a significant

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Speaker 5: amount of money. But you are going to have that

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Speaker 5: Group of five conversation and what does it mean for them?

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Speaker 5: And what kind of cap meaning do they put a

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Speaker 5: salary cap in to make it even for all the colleges?

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Speaker 5: Are you operating it just like the NFL operates. All

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Speaker 5: of those things are going to be interesting to watch

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Speaker 5: because those developments are certainly going to impact the way

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any clue how this money is

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Speaker 2: going to be distributed? I mean, obviously there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a title Knight situation and women going to want to

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Speaker 2: get some money as well. Will it be heavy duty football? Basketball?

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Speaker 2: How does this money get distributed? Say, I'm a student

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Speaker 2: at University of Michigan. I'm playing football, all right, the

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Speaker 2: school's going to get some big time money. How do

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Speaker 2: I get money? There's a quarterback get more money than

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Speaker 2: a defensive back. How does it work? How is it

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Speaker 2: going to be distributed?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's yet to be determined,

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Speaker 5: but it's certainly going to change everything.

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Speaker 3: That's why we talk about salary cap.

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Speaker 5: In those things, it might look like the way the

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Speaker 5: NFL operates and percentages and which players get the most money?

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Speaker 3: Are they the star players? Is it done by playing time?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: Production? How do they div it up? You know, those

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Speaker 5: are things that they have to get and finish. When

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Speaker 5: they finish the details, they have to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: They have to.

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Speaker 5: Figure out how the money going to get to the

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Speaker 5: to start paying players under this new revenue model given

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Speaker 5: the way the clock is still ticking, and we have

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Speaker 5: a new college football playoff on the horizon as well

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I think you had to be

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Speaker 2: to the draft for the National Football League, And I

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Speaker 2: think they do that soon because so your body is

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Speaker 2: not physically ready to go into that league and play

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Speaker 2: four years old. Physically, you get beat up. You can't

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Speaker 2: do it now, all of a sudden, you're no longer

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Speaker 2: an amateur. You know, you're a professional. Basically, if you're

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Speaker 2: getting paid on the college level, you'll consider the pro.

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Speaker 2: Can you go early on now to the NFL or

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Speaker 2: the NBAU so you could get drafted out of high school,

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Speaker 2: but the NFL is a different animal. Can you get

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Speaker 2: drafted to the NFL prior to those three years now

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Speaker 2: because you're no longer an amateur athlete, you're a pro.

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Speaker 3: NFL rules are strictly for the NFL.

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Speaker 5: They have nothing to do with college, as much as

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Speaker 5: college may like for the NFL to kind of switch

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Speaker 5: and take some of the players before they can get there.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the NFL has any interest the NFL

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Speaker 5: has always been able to benefit in the backs of

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Speaker 5: college football by having its own minor league system.

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Speaker 3: While they want to kind of change that model.

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Speaker 5: Right now, college football will have to kind of figure

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Speaker 5: out how to deal with the problems that they're currently facing.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the NFL is going to throw my

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Speaker 5: life preserver and say, oh, all these players and there

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Speaker 5: cansider pros.

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Speaker 3: They can come right to the lead. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that'll change.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I think the big rush for the money

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Speaker 2: everybody's going to go with their hands out right now

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Speaker 2: because all Division one athletes going back to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: are eligible to receivers share at part of this Edelman case. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but if they do so, if they get this money,

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Speaker 2: I understand they cannot sue the NCAA for other potential

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Speaker 2: anti choice violations. Okay, So, say I'm an athlete that

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Speaker 2: And in many colleges they consider cheerleading of our city sports.

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Speaker 2: Now will the cheerleaders get paid back from twenty sixteen?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And again let me throw a wrench

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Speaker 7: Raddy.

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Speaker 11: How you doing, Andy Bucket? Good morning. Okay, what year

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Speaker 11: So I started the University of Florida ninety six and

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Speaker 3: So the NL lawsuit that you know for shot, he

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Speaker 5: But yeah, Florida's in a world of hurt, just like

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Speaker 7: But this is bad.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad deal. You know, they promised him a

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Speaker 2: they don't win it all this year, this season is

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Speaker 2: going to be a failure. I get that. But to

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Speaker 2: criticize a bed mouth and say they're not playing up

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Speaker 2: the potential, maybe they're not that good. I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: they're a great basketball team. They got the best defensive

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Speaker 2: backcourt in the NBA, and they're getting criticized I believe unfairly.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they certainly catch a lot of heat and

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Speaker 5: a lot of flag for you know, I can't even

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Speaker 5: say they're under achievement, but just failing to bring home

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Speaker 5: the big one. I think there are a couple of

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Speaker 5: things that frustrate people. When you watch the Celtics, you

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Speaker 5: can see they're im mensely talented. You can really go

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Speaker 5: Google Gaga over the talent that they have in Jason

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Speaker 5: Tatum and Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 3: Look, they six or.

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Speaker 5: Four games, you lead the league in wins, you do

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Speaker 5: it really really easy. You've been breezing through the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I just think that when you look at this team

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Speaker 5: and you see the ups and downs and how they

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Speaker 5: have to kind of come back, and just the inconsistency

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Speaker 5: in their play despite the wins, I think it makes

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Speaker 5: it hard for you to kind of compare them to

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Speaker 5: some of the greater teams that have come through there.

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Speaker 5: They do get a lot of criticism, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of that criticism, though, is due to the fact that

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Speaker 5: they haven't gotten over the top. In this iteration of

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Speaker 5: the Celtics, they just have not been able to win.

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Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, they played the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 5: They lose to the Warriors and the finals, and I

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Speaker 5: just believe because they have not been able to take

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Speaker 5: the ring or hang that banner up despite their success.

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Speaker 5: Maybe their view like the Atlanta Braids reviewed years ago.

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Speaker 5: Remember the Lanta Braids would win all the division titles

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Speaker 5: but could never I think they only won one World Series,

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Speaker 5: like ninety seven. This is before the young version, the

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Speaker 5: new version of the Braves, and so I think they

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Speaker 5: leave you wanting more just because they have the potential

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Speaker 5: to be a dynasty.

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Speaker 3: They just haven't realized that potential yet.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I was watching TNT about a week or so ago

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Speaker 2: and I think they had Draymond Green was in there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he was there, but he was

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Speaker 2: there and he said that no one cares that the

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Speaker 2: Celtics made it to the Eastern Finals again, and I agree,

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Speaker 2: I agree with he said that he's one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: correct of that, But it doesn't mean they're not a

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Speaker 2: good basketball team. I get, you got to win it

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Speaker 2: all in this day and age. If you don't win

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Speaker 2: it all, you know you're going to be criticized as

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Speaker 2: a loser, not because you didn't win it, but you're

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Speaker 2: a loser. And basically, you know as well as I do.

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Speaker 2: In major sports, the four major sports, if you don't

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Speaker 2: have a ring, there's a real good chance you'll never

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Speaker 2: get to the Hall of Fame in that sport. You know,

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Speaker 2: the ring is the ticket, that's what It never used

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Speaker 2: to be that way, but I think that's the way

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Speaker 2: we judge athletes and players right now as far as

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Speaker 2: their legacy is concerned.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the ring is everything.

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Speaker 5: We live in ring culture, you know, where everything people

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Speaker 5: are just taling up the amount of rings that you

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Speaker 5: have to really determined where your greatness falls in line

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Speaker 5: with the others. And because they haven't won, it's hard

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Speaker 5: to call this a great team just because they're regular

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Speaker 5: season warriors. They went a lot doing the regular season,

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Speaker 5: but they have not been able to finish the deal

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Speaker 5: in the postseason. For them to get that monkey off

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Speaker 5: their back, they have to win.

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that you can do. They have

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Speaker 3: to win.

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Speaker 2: To me, you know, and I watch these announcers, they're

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Speaker 2: just bad mouthing. Michael Wilbond. The other day he says,

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Speaker 2: if the New York Knicks were healthy, completely healthy, they

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Speaker 2: would have beat the Celtics. You know why, Michael, they

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Speaker 2: warn't They that's part of Donovan Mitchell didn't play for

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Speaker 2: the Cavaliers and the Celtics won. They said, if Donovan

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Speaker 2: Mitchell would have played, they would have. It doesn't work

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Speaker 2: that way, by the way. Injuries are part of the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't need to hear that if. Don't

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Speaker 2: give me the if right now, and I will say

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Speaker 2: this much. Should the Celtics win their rough three zip

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Speaker 2: and they probably will win, They're gonna have a hard

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Speaker 2: time against teams like Dallas. They will. Dallas is big,

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Speaker 2: they're strong. I mean, I don't know if they gonna

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Speaker 2: be the Dallas team, you know, But I'm gonna worry

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Speaker 2: about that when that series starts. But right now, this

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Speaker 2: Celtic team is a pretty damn good basketball team. And

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Speaker 2: for these announcers to sit behind their microphones and just

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Speaker 2: rip them and bang them and kill them, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It really isn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, there are a couple of things at play. One

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Speaker 3: they have like it's not their fault.

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Speaker 5: But they have benefited from the fact that during this run,

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Speaker 5: every team today face has had to deal with a

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Speaker 5: major setback to a key player or players. Miami Heat

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Speaker 5: didn't have Jimmy Butler or Terry Roggier.

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Speaker 3: You then look up the next time Donovan.

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Speaker 5: Now you have Donovan Mitchell and Jared Allen didn't play.

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Speaker 5: Now you're sitting here in the series. Tyrese Halliburton is

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Speaker 5: not a play. I mean we talk about significant players,

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Speaker 5: impact players that are unavailable for the Celtics. It's not

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Speaker 5: their fault, but because they haven't faced I would say

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Speaker 5: the best versions of all those teams, we haven't seen

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Speaker 5: the Celtics tested and a lot of you know, what

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Speaker 5: is the championship journey. It's about seeing them kind of

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Speaker 5: tried by the fire, so that steal, that's still the

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Speaker 5: interior that the greediness is forged.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen that from this team this year.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they've had disappointments in previous years that could harden

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Speaker 5: the team, that would give.

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Speaker 3: Them the experience necessary for them to get over the top.

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Speaker 3: They just haven't faced it this year.

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Speaker 5: So what is going to be their reaction when they

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Speaker 5: and Evily have to face it against either the timber

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Speaker 5: Wolves or the Mavericks. Are they tough enough to be

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Speaker 5: able to get to the other side. I think some

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Speaker 5: of the questions are valid, even though the criticism doesn't

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Speaker 5: appear to be warranted based on how easy they've kind

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Speaker 5: of rolled through the postseason.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right, you make a great point that I

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Speaker 2: agree with you right there. But if you remember last

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Speaker 2: year when the Soetics lost to Miami in the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Conference Finals, Jason Tatum was hurt. He was hurting Game seven,

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Speaker 2: and he was limping up and down the court, and

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Speaker 2: maybe that was a major factor why they did lose

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Speaker 2: in that game. And it happens. You know, players get hurt,

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Speaker 2: and maybe the coaching steps shouldn't have play Tatum in

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Speaker 2: that game, but I guess he would. He was one

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Speaker 2: of those guys that goes to the coach and usually

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Speaker 2: do and say, look, i'm playing, I'm okay. But he

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Speaker 2: wasn't okay. It was not one hundred percent, and maybe

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Speaker 2: that's why they lost. So it happens as part of

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Speaker 2: the game. And that's why I argue that these series,

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Speaker 2: these seven games series that are early on are ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I know the owners like it, they love it. It's

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Speaker 2: more money. I like the three out of five best,

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Speaker 2: three out of five. Play less less games means less

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Speaker 2: chance of players getting hurt. That's the end of the game. Really,

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Speaker 2: that's the way it should be. I want to see

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Speaker 2: the best players play at all time. We don't do that.

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Speaker 2: We don't see it. But you know what, to find

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Speaker 2: out who the champion is, you need to have the

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Speaker 2: best players playing. And we don't see it all the time.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't see it all. We don't see it

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Speaker 3: all the time.

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Speaker 5: But what he does is it creates these dilemmas that

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Speaker 5: people don't like during the regular season. Okay, if I'm

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Speaker 5: telling you that Jimmy Butler and Terry Rose here aren't available,

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Speaker 5: do we play them too much during the regular season?

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Speaker 3: Do we need to have low management days?

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Speaker 5: Do we need to find a way to preserve them

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Speaker 5: to give our team our best chance to win in

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Speaker 5: the post which is really what matters. Those things that

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Speaker 5: we complain about, we also can't complain about. Hey, we

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Speaker 5: want to see to play the players play more while

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Speaker 5: also watching them play in the postseason because they're healthy.

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Speaker 5: It can be hard to serve both of those masters.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. He's Bucket Brooks. He's always right on

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Speaker 2: Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports Sunny and Fox Sports Radio. Finally,

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Speaker 2: finally someone comes to his defense. That's coming up next

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Speaker 2: live for the Fox Sports Radio studios and the tyre

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Speaker 2: Rock dot Com studios. But first, Martin Weiss, Yes, Martin

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Speaker 2: Weiss with all the.

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Speaker 7: Sports you guys just talked about it.

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Speaker 12: The Boston Tultics lead the Eastern Conference Finals now three

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Speaker 12: games to none after last night's come from behind victory

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Speaker 12: one fourteen to one eleven. Jason Tatum thirty six and

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Speaker 12: the win Andrew Nedhar thirty two and the loss. Pacers

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Speaker 12: led by as much as eighteen, had two different points

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Speaker 12: throughout the game. All NBA Indiana pacer guard the Tyreese Halliburton,

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Speaker 12: miss game through the sore hamstring. No word yet on

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Speaker 12: his status for Game four. At hl Western Conference Final,

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Speaker 12: Dallas beat Edmonton three to one. Mason Marksmith broke a

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Speaker 12: third period one one tie. Dallas eventually scored an empty

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Speaker 12: netter to give the Stars a two goal win, too

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Speaker 12: a lead.

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Speaker 7: Rather, the series is tied one game apiece.

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Speaker 12: In the WNBA back to back defending champs, the Las

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Speaker 12: Vegas Aces thumped the Indiana Fever ninety nine to eighty.

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Speaker 12: Fever were on the second night of a back to back.

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Speaker 12: Asia Wilson had twenty nine points fifteen rebounds for the Aces.

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Speaker 12: Kelsey Plumb added twenty points and seven assists. Indiana Fever

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Speaker 12: rookie Caitlin Clark eight points, seven assists, six turnovers. Fever

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Speaker 12: now one in six on the year. Aces three and one.

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Speaker 12: Aaron Judges Howard in the last four games he's played,

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Speaker 12: and Yankees beat the Padres down in San Diego yesterday

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Speaker 12: four to one. New York looks to sweep the three

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Speaker 12: game series later today four to ten Eastern. For first pitch,

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Speaker 12: Dodgers have lost four straight, three to one to the

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Speaker 12: Reds yesterday. Walker Bueller gave up three runs and six

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Speaker 12: hits over five and two thirds innings pitched. Royals continued

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Speaker 12: their hot streak, winning eight straight. They won seven to

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Speaker 12: four at the race. He's in eleven innings in the

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Speaker 12: Indy five hundred scheduled for later today, but there are

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Speaker 12: thunderstorms in the forecast.

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Speaker 7: Andy and Bucky back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Martin, seeing about it now an inclusion. Some people

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Speaker 2: don't even know what the word means. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks and

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman. We have Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Here,

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Speaker 2: we've got to ask Bucking in about seven eight minutes

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Speaker 2: for now, and thank you Patrick Mahomes, thank you coach

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid. Some people finally standing up for their football

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Speaker 2: kicker Harrison Bucker at the address that he made at

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Speaker 2: Benedictine College, the Catholic college in Kansas, and he said,

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Speaker 2: to kind of put it down in Layman's terms, he

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Speaker 2: told the people at that school, and he's a Roman Catholic.

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Speaker 2: He told them that while some women may go on

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Speaker 2: to lead successful careers, the majority of the women here

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Speaker 2: you're most excited about your marriage and the children you'll

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Speaker 2: bring it to this world. And boy did he get

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Speaker 2: heat for that, but his coach stood up frohim. Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes came back and said, look, I don't agree with

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Speaker 2: everything he says, but he has every right to do that.

654
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Speaker 2: He has a right to say that. And you know what, Buck,

655
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: he didn't do without cussing. He didn't do it un

656
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Speaker 2: the cheap, which most people do without. He was sincere

657
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: and I loved everything that he said. I don't agree

658
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: with everything he said, but he has everything. He has

659
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: every right to say what he said. And finally someone

660
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: stood up for him. And look, the one person I

661
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: don't like is Roger Goodell the commissioner. He made it

662
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: clear that Butler and what he said did not meet

663
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Speaker 2: the high socio political standards demanded by the NFL. And

664
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Speaker 2: it's players. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

665
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Speaker 2: With all those rape cases and the beatings and NFL

666
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: players and Harrison Buckler doesn't meet the socio political standards.

667
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Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me. What a joke? That is unbelievable.

668
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Speaker 5: Great, Well, I mean, I think what the commissioner is

669
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Speaker 5: doing is you got to remember it's a billion dollar business,

670
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Speaker 5: most of the twenty billion dollar business, the NFL, And

671
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: what Roger Goodell is trying to do is protect the

672
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Speaker 5: interest of the league itself. And sometimes when you have

673
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Speaker 5: a player who may speak out and say things that

674
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Speaker 5: may offend some of the partners that the league have,

675
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Speaker 5: where it's Roger Goodell's job to make sure that those

676
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Speaker 5: partners aren't offended.

677
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Speaker 3: And so he is trying to make sure that he

678
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Speaker 3: protects the brand.

679
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Speaker 5: And even though Harrison m is free to express his

680
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: opinion in those things, he's also not free from the

681
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: consequences that come from saying whatever it is that he

682
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Speaker 5: wants to say. Roger Goodell is just reiterating that point

683
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: that a like he can say whatever and he doesn't

684
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Speaker 5: align with his beliefs, but he's certainly free to do it.

685
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: That's part of you know, what the Constitution gives you

686
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Speaker 5: in First Amendment right to you know, speak your mind

687
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Speaker 5: and say all those things. But he can say those things,

688
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: but it doesn't mean that he is free from criticism

689
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Speaker 5: for his opinion. Just because you spout your opinion doesn't

690
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Speaker 5: mean that everyone else has to agree with your opinion.

691
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, I hear what you say, but I will

692
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 2: say this, the NFL didn't distance itself a Shawn Watson,

693
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback from the Cleveland Browns who said it with

694
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: twenty three women who sued him for sexual misconduct, right,

695
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: and then he signed for twenty to thirty million dollars

696
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: and the NFL still sells his jersey. I don't get it.

697
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: You can't have it both.

698
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 5: Waymu, really, But the thing is they suspended him though.

699
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: Remember he was citing for ten games, so he was punished.

700
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Speaker 5: And I would say that these are two different things.

701
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Speaker 5: But he was punished because his conduct was detrimental to

702
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Speaker 5: the brand, and so they suspended him for ten games

703
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 5: on a civil suit, not a criminal suit. So Roger

704
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: Goodell is kind of staying true to form. Anything that

705
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 5: goes against the league and tarnishes the league, he does

706
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 5: come out and favorite the league and also make sure

707
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Speaker 5: it always make sure that the league's brand and image

708
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Speaker 5: and reputation is first and foremost when it comes to

709
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Speaker 5: what the players say, how the players act, and all

710
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Speaker 5: of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're making Harrison Bucket, at least some people in

712
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: the NFL office are making him a pariah. I don't like.

713
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Speaker 2: That's why. I love the fact that his coach, Andy

714
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Reid was in his corner and his quarterback was in

715
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Speaker 2: his corner, and I agreeing with everything that he said,

716
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Speaker 2: but they had their right to say what he said.

717
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: And look, domestic violence is like it looks like a disease.

718
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 2: It's an epidemic of the NFL players beating the hell

719
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Speaker 2: out of women.

720
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Speaker 5: I don't get yes, wait wait holda wait, wait wait

721
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Speaker 5: wait now I think you're I think you're overblowing to

722
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Speaker 5: domestic violence issue when it comes to the NFL. Like

723
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: the NFL doesn't run them up with a bunch of

724
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Speaker 5: criminals and thugs that are out here doing a bunch

725
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: of different stuff. You may have isolated incidents, but the

726
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: league itself isn't overrun with.

727
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Speaker 3: That kind of stuff.

728
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Speaker 5: Like when Roger Goodell came in, one of the things

729
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: that he did, particularly when it was the height of

730
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: the Pac Van Jones era, he wanted to make sure

731
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Speaker 5: that he cleaned up some of those things.

732
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Speaker 3: So the league wouldn't do that.

733
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Speaker 5: That's why you see these cases in conduct detrimental and

734
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Speaker 5: suspensions in those things.

735
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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say the league itself is like that.

736
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have some isolated incidents, just like Harrison, but

737
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Speaker 5: Buckner's incident is an isolated incident of someone speaking out

738
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Speaker 5: and maybe having controversial headlines depending on where you sit

739
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Speaker 5: and where you stand in the argument.

740
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Speaker 3: But I don't want to say that the league itself

741
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: is just overruned with a bunch of criminal vague.

742
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that, But you will admit this

743
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: that when an incident occurs like the running back the

744
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara had a situation when he had it when

745
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: he beat the heck out of a black man and

746
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: he had a and he returned after a short suspension.

747
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Speaker 2: You know, I think people go whole home when they

748
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: see stories like that because it's somewhat commonplace. And when

749
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Harrison Bucker had that speech at the college, it was like,

750
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And I'll say, why do I say that?

751
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Because on a recent podcast, didn't Michelle Beadle didn't she

752
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: come back and said said, go f yourself to him?

753
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean that I saw that on social media. Michelle

754
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: Beadle came back and said, go yourself. What is that

755
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: all about? Where does she come off this? I mean,

756
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: she could say what she wants, but honestly, what did

757
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: he What did he say that was so bad that

758
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: she has to come back and say go yourself? Come on.

759
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy when you think about it, it's sick.

760
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean what Harrison Buckler did. What would the feedback

761
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: and the pushback that he got really and he was

762
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: a gentleman. He didn't say anything. He didn't come back

763
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: and attack anybody. You know, he's a good Roman Catholic.

764
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: I guess that's why you didn't do it. Amazing.

765
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Speaker 5: Well, I would just say that, like, there were some

766
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: people that he outlined in the speech that would find

767
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 5: it offensive, and those people that were offended pushed back

768
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 5: about some of the things that he said, Now he's

769
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 5: free to say whatever it is that he wants to say,

770
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 5: but the consequence.

771
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: Has come with that, and so he's going to have

772
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: to like like live with it. Yeah, be okay with people.

773
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, be okay with people responding in whatever fashion, like

774
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: Michelle beat on others.

775
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: But she doesn't need to come back and say go

776
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: yourself and says, look, Harrison, I hear what you're saying.

777
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: I just respectfully agreed to disagree with what you had

778
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: to say. That would have been the way to come

779
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 2: back at it. But go with yourself. Come on, Really,

780
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: I have less respect for her than for Harrison from

781
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: Harrison buck looking for making the speech. I really do.

782
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: I just I think it's crazy. I think what she

783
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: did is wrong. I think it's worse what she did

784
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: than what Harrison Buckler did. That's all I'm saying. Do

785
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: you agree with that?

786
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say that it's worse.

787
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 5: I would say that she's taking her right freedom of speech,

788
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: just like Harrison Buckner. So however, people want to talk

789
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: to whatever, because like if we find the defense of

790
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: what she did, what about what fans say to players

791
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: all the time when it comes to the conversation and

792
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: those things. So like, we don't live in a you know,

793
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: like a society where people don't just feel like they

794
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 5: can spout off and say whatever it is they want

795
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: to say.

796
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: That's kind of part of the deal.

797
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: Even though I may not elected to speak like that,

798
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: and speaking those terms doesn't mean that someone else is

799
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: wrong for speaking in those terms.

800
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Speaker 3: That's just kind of what it is. That's what our

801
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: country has been built off.

802
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, okay, Bucket Brooks, Andy from we are

803
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: together with Fox Sports Sonny and Fox Sports Radio fans.

804
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: The man coming right up. That's as Bucky. It's next.

805
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

806
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's get rolling right now, it's time for

807
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: ask Bucky. This is Fox Sports Sonny. He's Bucket Brooks

808
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: and Andy Fermana went live from the Tyraq dot Com

809
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: studios and nowhere we go, Here we go. The NFL

810
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: just hired Stephanie Kuak as VP of flag Football. Bucket Brooks,

811
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: why is the league investing in flag football?

812
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: It's a way to really grow the fandom. You think

813
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: about flag football.

814
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: It doesn't require contact, so it opens it up for

815
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: guys who aren't playing tackle football.

816
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: But it also opens it up to.

817
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 5: The world of girls, and it aroused girls to become

818
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: devoted football fans because now they have an interest in

819
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: the game because they can participate in flag football. That

820
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: brings them close to the NFL. It is a way

821
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: for the game, for the NFL to continue to grow

822
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: their product.

823
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Speaker 2: Excellent, That was winning for an answer. Very good. Okay,

824
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: here we go. How surprised are you, Bucket Brooks That

825
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: TNT they broadcaster and Hall of Fame of Charles Barkley.

826
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: He's gone viral for this tour is campaign for the

827
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: state of Minnesota when he was going back and forth

828
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: with the Anthony Edwards on the Minnesota Timberwolves.

829
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Speaker 5: Not surprised because, like Charles, one of the reasons why

830
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 5: he's beloved by viewers is because he says bombastic stuff.

831
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 5: This is the Minnesota, the state taking advantage of like

832
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: his words and using it for their own benefiting game.

833
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised. He says crazy things all the time.

834
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: We've heard him talk about Galveston, Texas and San Antonio

835
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: in those things. Is just another long one of the

836
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: long list of things that Charles.

837
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Have been involved in.

838
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: Didn't a couple of years ago, say the women in

839
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: San Antonio with fat something like that.

840
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: Oh, he talks about him all the time.

841
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Right, it was great. Now is it possible? Is it

842
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: possible bucket books that will soon see nil coming to

843
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: professional sports?

844
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think it's already like a part

845
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 5: of professional sports when you think about the sponsorships and

846
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: the endorsements that a lot of these players. If you

847
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: think about just look at the WNBA and what Caitlyn

848
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: Clark has been able to do, signing a deal with

849
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: Wilson that hadn't been done since Michael Jordan had done it.

850
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 5: Angel Reese, who's signed a bunch of deals, some of

851
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: the players that are currently with these things, so it's

852
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: already existed.

853
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: They're just really comfortable in that world.

854
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: So you'll see more players at a lower level really

855
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: begin to hone in on their brands.

856
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark and her Indiana Fever have struggled thus far

857
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: early on. There's something like one in five of their

858
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: first six games. She's had some turnover problems, not scoring

859
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: a lot of points. Could you tell us why she's

860
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: having this difficulty early on?

861
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: Mister pros, The pros are hard, and I think what

862
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 5: casuals are finding out there are a lot of great

863
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: players in the w NBA. I mean, you talk about

864
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: how hard it is to make the WNBA the only

865
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty four roster spots, and the people

866
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: that are there.

867
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Speaker 3: Are really good.

868
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 5: They are some of the finest basketball players you can see.

869
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: And even though she came in with a lot of hype,

870
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: the transition from from college to pro is a difficult one.

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Speaker 3: And let's be honest, she's also getting.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's a game because of the hype and the fanfare

873
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: around her, the pact arenas. She is the center of attention,

874
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Speaker 5: and so people are giving her her just due by

875
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Speaker 5: really ramping up the defense against her.

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Speaker 2: Is she getting everybody's a game because there's some animosity

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Speaker 2: and jealousy?

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Speaker 5: I mean, like have you talked about whenever you're a competitor,

879
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Speaker 5: you're looking for reasons to compete at a higher level.

880
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Speaker 5: And so people are certainly aware of who she is.

881
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Speaker 5: And sometimes you make your name off of the backs

882
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Speaker 5: of somebody who's prominent.

883
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Speaker 3: So she's getting it.

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Speaker 5: Whatever the real reasons are, she's getting it because she

885
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Speaker 5: is a box office sensation and everyone knows that people

886
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Speaker 5: are watching her.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, it really is. Can you give me a positive

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Speaker 2: and a negative nil, one positive and one negative.

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Speaker 3: Which mean positive and a negative like something that well,

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Speaker 3: you know, we'll get hit it on the other side.

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Speaker 2: We'll get it on the other thing, all right, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: Andy Fervor, what's hype. We'll talk about it next on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: All right, studying it straight, that's coming right up. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 2: And Bucky, it's our number two holiday weekend and we

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Speaker 2: had kind of left off with this nil name, image

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Speaker 2: and likeness. Can you give me like a positive of

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Speaker 2: the deal, and certainly give me a negative of the deal,

907
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Speaker 2: because right now that's probably the biggest story going on

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Speaker 2: in college athletics, and if you're a coach right now,

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Speaker 2: it's not so much recruiting talent. It's recruiting boosters with

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Speaker 2: big wallets. That's what it's all about, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like to recruit, you have to have enough

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Speaker 5: money at your disposal to be able to get some

914
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Speaker 5: of the top players. Look, the positive of it has

915
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Speaker 5: been for so players have not been able to get

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Speaker 5: paid off their name, image, or likeness. So a lot

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Speaker 5: of times you had prominent players, but they would go

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Speaker 5: to the student store, see their name or their jersey,

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Speaker 5: their number in student stores, but they weren't making a

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Speaker 5: deal off of that. So now those guys are getting

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Speaker 5: fairly compensated off of the university using their name, image

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Speaker 5: and likeness.

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Speaker 3: So that part is positive. The negative has.

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Speaker 5: Been maybe the lack of regulation when it comes to

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Speaker 5: policing these things. Without structure and organization, a lot of

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Speaker 5: things follow by the cracks, and players can't get their

927
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Speaker 5: just due because they're getting a lot of empty promises,

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Speaker 5: and the schools and the collectives themselves are having a

929
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Speaker 5: tough time holding people accountable to the things that they

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Speaker 5: also are being promised in returned. A little more regulation,

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Speaker 5: a little more structure and an organization will make it

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Speaker 5: easy for everybody to understand what the rules are and

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Speaker 5: how to exist within the rules.

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Speaker 2: Well said. And of course you talk about money, that

935
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Speaker 2: brings to mind quarterback Dak Prescott. Why do I say that?

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Speaker 6: Was?

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott of the Dallas Cowboys is in the final

938
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Speaker 2: year of a four year, one hundred and sixty million

939
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Speaker 2: dollar deal he signed this back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: He's got a no trade clause in his contract and

941
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Speaker 2: the team can't use the franchise tag on him next year.

942
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Speaker 2: And of course, the Detroit Lions signed their quarterback Jared

943
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Speaker 2: Goff to a recent deal worth something like fifty three

944
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Speaker 2: million dollars annually, including a seventy three million dollars signing bonus.

945
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Speaker 2: All Right, Prescott is set to count in like fifty

946
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Speaker 2: five point four million against the salary cap this year.

947
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Speaker 2: Now here's the deal as far as he's concerned. A

948
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Speaker 2: lot of people are wondering why the Dallas Cowboys have

949
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Speaker 2: waited to sign Dak Prescott to a contract extension. And

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Speaker 2: I love what he had to say. He was at

951
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Speaker 2: the OTAs of the Dallas Cowboys just the other day

952
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Speaker 2: and he said, quote I don't play for money.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

954
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Speaker 2: I never met Dak Prescott, and maybe he's saying that

955
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Speaker 2: because he wants to win over various people. I don't know,

956
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Speaker 2: but the fact is he said it. I don't play

957
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Speaker 2: for money, never have cared for it, to be honest

958
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Speaker 2: with you, that's what he said. And also give it

959
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Speaker 2: up just to play this game. So I allow that

960
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Speaker 2: to the business people to say what it's worth, what

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to give a quarterback of my play, a

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Speaker 2: person of my play, a leader of my play. For me,

963
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Speaker 2: it's about, as I said, control what I can control

964
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Speaker 2: and handle the part and the rest will take care

965
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Speaker 2: of itself. Dak Prescott, I love you. I don't play

966
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Speaker 2: for money. Isn't that beautiful? How many players say that

967
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Speaker 2: in any sport? Love it?

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Speaker 3: Well? I mean, I think the intent and all that

969
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Speaker 3: other stuff.

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Speaker 5: He hit on himself like a pro and like someone

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Speaker 5: you would expect that carries the way to be into

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Speaker 5: franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 5: He does play for the money, because if he didn't

975
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Speaker 5: play for the money, he wouldn't have signed the deal

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Speaker 5: that he sign for a few years ago, four for

977
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Speaker 5: one sixty coming on the heels of playing go back

978
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Speaker 5: to back, franchise tags or those things. Dak Prescott understands it.

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Speaker 5: I think the bigger point is he's not going to

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Speaker 5: be distracted.

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Speaker 3: By the money he does. His business people will handle

982
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Speaker 3: the money.

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Speaker 5: He's going to focus on his play and he has

984
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Speaker 5: an opportunity to do something that we've never seen, which

985
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Speaker 5: is be a rare quarterback that is French elite. Elite

986
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Speaker 5: have you viewed Dak Prescott. But he hits the open

987
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Speaker 5: market as a free agent. We've never seen that. And

988
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Speaker 5: for all the the Cowboys fans who dismiss Dak Prescott,

989
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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people that will be happy

990
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Speaker 5: to have Dak Prescott as the starting quarterback. We think

991
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Speaker 5: the quarterback money's gotten out of control. If Dak Prescott

992
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Speaker 5: hits the market, he's going to command upwards of sixty

993
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Speaker 5: million dollars annually and that deal is going to change

994
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Speaker 5: the bar again for quarterbacks. It'd be interesting to see

995
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Speaker 5: how he plays out. Yeah, he has the luxury of

996
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Speaker 5: being able to say I don't play for money when

997
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Speaker 5: he's sitting on a bag of money eaching every night.

998
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Speaker 2: But he's going to get in the past. He's better.

999
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Speaker 2: He's a better quarterback than Jared Goff. But the point

1000
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Speaker 2: is that's just the going right to quarterbacks. It's so

1001
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: valuable that position is, and it's going to be that

1002
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Speaker 2: way forever and ever because certainly you don't win in

1003
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Speaker 2: the National Football League without a quarterback number one and

1004
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Speaker 2: number two. Many of these quarterbacks are getting that kind

1005
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Speaker 2: of money because what are they gonna do without him?

1006
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Speaker 2: There's no one in return. It's either Dak Prescott or nobody.

1007
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Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. That's why Kirk Cousins got

1008
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Speaker 2: all that money in Atlanta. They needed a quarterback, right

1009
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Speaker 2: and look, I'm not saying Kirk Cousins a Hall of Famer,

1010
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Speaker 2: but he's better than what they had, and he got

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Speaker 2: to pay for it.

1012
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, supplying the man, you have to pay for it.

1013
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: They were willing to pay for it. And that's just

1014
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Speaker 3: the way it's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: If we don't think that someone else is gonna be

1016
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Speaker 5: willing to pay for Dak Prescott, we're mistaken. If Deshaun

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Speaker 5: Watson can get the contract that he landed, given how

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Speaker 5: he's paid the last couple of years, the contract was

1019
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Speaker 5: not obviously before he got to Cleveland, but Dak Prescott

1020
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Speaker 5: is able to look at that and look at some

1021
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Speaker 5: of the other deals that's been going, look at Jared

1022
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Speaker 5: Goff and what Jared Goff has been throughout most of

1023
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Speaker 5: his career, and say that I deserve in that range,

1024
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Speaker 5: and if we factor in inflation and all that other stuff,

1025
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Speaker 5: that's gonna put me a couple million.

1026
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Speaker 3: Over Jerry Goff at a minimum.

1027
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Speaker 5: But now, when you have the potential for it to

1028
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Speaker 5: be a competitive situation with supply and demand, Dak Prescott

1029
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Speaker 5: is very comfortable. And that's not to deal because he

1030
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Speaker 5: knows he's in store for a blockbuster deals on the horizon.

1031
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Speaker 2: So he may not say he's gonna say it, I

1032
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Speaker 2: don't play for the money, but you know what, he

1033
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: knows he's going to get the money. There's all doubt

1034
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Speaker 2: about that, right, it's going to get But.

1035
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Speaker 5: I do love I do love the fact that he

1036
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Speaker 5: talked about that like it's someone he is someone to

1037
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Speaker 5: me who I believe he's an outstanding leader and he

1038
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Speaker 5: puts things in perspective. The way that he said it

1039
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Speaker 5: certainly was easily digestible for the fans. But he was

1040
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Speaker 5: talking about we all get paid, we all do these things,

1041
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 5: but that's not the motivating force. The motivating force for

1042
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: me basically is I want to be a great football player.

1043
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 5: I want to lead this team to championships. The money

1044
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Speaker 5: is the money, and data take care of itself. My

1045
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: job as the leader of the team is to be

1046
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Speaker 5: here make sure that our team is ready to go.

1047
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Speaker 1: I love it.

1048
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Speaker 2: I loved it. I really did. Okay, I will talk

1049
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Speaker 2: about a term that everybody talks about. The term is

1050
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Speaker 2: hype hype, you know, and what does it mean. I'm

1051
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: gonna try to kind of define with the term hype,

1052
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: But a lot of people have called me a huckster,

1053
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Speaker 2: you know, in my line of a pr guy of

1054
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Speaker 2: various sports teams to promote athletes, whoever it may be.

1055
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Speaker 2: So what is hype pipe is extravagant or intensive publicity

1056
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Speaker 2: of promotion, which we could say maybe Caitlin Clark falls

1057
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Speaker 2: under that right now because whatever she does, everybody's talking

1058
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: and writing, you know, doing stuff with her, and that's

1059
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: all you hear is what she does really, what she wears,

1060
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Speaker 2: where she goes, how she plays, wherever it may be.

1061
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Speaker 2: So how does this apply to the NFL? Well, you

1062
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks wrote about it this week in your wonderful

1063
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Speaker 2: column and NFL dot Com about Caleb Williams and the

1064
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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, because you said, right now, the hype train

1065
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Speaker 2: is often running in Chicago because of Caleb Williams. First,

1066
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Speaker 2: is hype healthy for a team? I think right now

1067
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Speaker 2: I would have to answer that. For fans of the

1068
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, I think it's really good because they've been

1069
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: so downtrodden for so many years. So I think to

1070
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: some extent, hype is healthy. Do you agree.

1071
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 5: I mean, hype is healthy as long as the players

1072
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 5: handle it with the right, the proper perspective.

1073
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: The hype that everyone is talking.

1074
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Speaker 5: About around this team and everyone is touting this team

1075
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Speaker 5: is a You know, no one has done a better

1076
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: job of surrounding a quarterback, a first round pick and

1077
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Speaker 5: overall number one with the kind of talent that the

1078
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Speaker 5: Bears have, and we can say that that is true. Well,

1079
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 5: now you have to start play up to expectation. Even

1080
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Speaker 5: though coaches will always say the outsiders expectations are never

1081
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 5: higher than the ones that we set. Internally, you begin

1082
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: to feel that, and you not only feel the pressure

1083
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 5: of wanting to live up to those expectations, but you

1084
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Speaker 5: feel the pressure of having to deal with every team.

1085
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Speaker 3: On your schedule will now use you as a measuring stick.

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Speaker 3: The difference for.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Chicago Bears is they haven't been in

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Speaker 5: that position with a young quarterback, and then you got

1089
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback trying to figure it out. Why you

1090
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: have maybe dark horse Super Bowl aspirations. That's a lot

1091
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Speaker 5: of pressure for Kayler Williams to come in and be

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Speaker 5: not only better than what they had previously and justin fields,

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00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 5: but to come in hit the ground, run running and

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Speaker 5: play at a level that I mean, it's on part

1095
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Speaker 5: with Patrick Mahomes all pro level that that's a lot

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Speaker 5: of hype. That's that's a lot of expectations lumped on

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Speaker 5: a single solitary player.

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Speaker 2: Well, how come there wasn't Maybe I'm mistakeable. How come

1099
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Speaker 2: there wasn't as much hype last year when c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud came into the league with Houston. I'm hearing more

1101
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: hype round and you wrote about it now just the

1102
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: other day NFL dot Com about the Kayleb Williams hype.

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Speaker 5: I didn't see that kind of hype with c J.

1104
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 5: Stroud or did I know he wasn't hype? No, he

1105
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: wasn't hype because everyone was talking about Brice Yall.

1106
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Speaker 3: Remember c J.

1107
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Speaker 5: Stroud was the second quarterback taking so in this debate,

1108
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: it would be Jaden Daniels playing at that level where

1109
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 5: everyone is like, man, why wasn't he the first pick?

1110
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Speaker 3: Why wasn't he number one? Overall all of those.

1111
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: Things, That's what it is. But the hype, the hype

1112
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: has a little to do with the fanfare that you

1113
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: can create coming out of college. He was a Heisman

1114
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 5: Trophy winner, He has splash play moments. The tape is

1115
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: impressive based on how he throws it. You can have

1116
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: a better understanding of the hype in the situation around him.

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00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: Okay, let me talk about the Chicago Bears and why

1118
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: there is so much hype because he's gonna be successful.

1119
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: You say, not so much because of his skill set,

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Speaker 2: because he was a great player in college, no doubt

1121
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: about that, but because of what the Chicago Bears have

1122
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: done to make him successful with the players around him,

1123
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: who have they brought in to make Caleb Williams life

1124
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: a lot easier and the Bears a lot better this year.

1125
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Speaker 5: When you think about the Bears and you just look around,

1126
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 5: like offensive League Keenan Allen coming on board Roma Dunes.

1127
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 5: They had been a draft pick coming on board to

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00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: team with DJ Moore to give him three big body playmakers.

1129
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 5: You have Cole commit Gerald Everett comes over to help them.

1130
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 5: Now you have two tight ends that you rely on

1131
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 5: if you need to. DeAndre Swift joins the rotation that

1132
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: already has Khalil Herbert, Russell Johnson. I mean they have

1133
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 5: a ton of talent in the perimeter and then with

1134
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 5: the offensive lines. Just another year to jail and develop

1135
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: the chemistry and continuity that is going to help them.

1136
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: But this team isn't far off. It's just better than

1137
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: playing and playing at the level that everyone expects them.

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00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: The play I know DJ Moore right now is a

1139
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: difference making. There's no doubt about that. DJ Moore was

1140
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: a great pickof of the Chicago Bears. But what about

1141
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: this offensive line? That's the key? Can you protect this guy?

1142
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: Because I don't think players coming out of college realize

1143
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: and you could tell them, you know what it's like,

1144
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: how quick how much faster the NFL is than the

1145
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: college game.

1146
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: No, but they find out really quickly how fast it is,

1147
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: how quickly you have to adapt and adjust You also

1148
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: don't have an appreciation for the clever tactics and strategies

1149
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: employed by defensive coordinators around the league. People don't give

1150
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 5: those guys enough credit for how they're doing and how

1151
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 5: they challenge people in a different way outside of physical Yeah,

1152
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: it's a different league's scoring test you. It's gonna humble

1153
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: you on some days. But do you have enough talkings

1154
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 5: to get to the other side. That's really the whiskey.

1155
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: You know, here's a question that I'm gonna throw at you,

1156
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm not trying to push it, but you know,

1157
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: you may want to write about this at NFL dot com, which,

1158
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: by the way, if you've go to NFL dot com

1159
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: every single Friday and look on the writers and scroll down,

1160
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: you see Bucket Brooks's beautiful face and you can read

1161
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: his column on Friday. You know, they talk about players,

1162
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: they talk about draft picks, they talk about you know,

1163
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: surrounding players' line play and the playmakers that are on

1164
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: the beers. I haven't read and maybe you could go

1165
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: deep into this some Friday. The difference between coaching on

1166
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: the college level and coaching in the NFL. Is there

1167
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: a major difference in If so, what is it. Now

1168
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: we see a guy like Habball goes from college to

1169
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: the pros, now back to the pros again from college.

1170
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, does it make a difference. Is the coaching

1171
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: a lot better in the NFL? Is they're more coaching

1172
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: in college? And there you've been in college, you played

1173
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: in the pros. You could explain, You could tell us

1174
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: what is the difference in coaching.

1175
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: Well, the coaching is good at every level. It depends

1176
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: on the program. The difference between the college game and

1177
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: the program. When it comes to the coaching and instruction,

1178
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 5: you have more time to get it. When I'm a pro,

1179
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: I'm not distracted by having to go to class and

1180
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 5: deal with a bunch of things that student athletes have

1181
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 5: to deal with. Right now I'm a professional, I'll spend

1182
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 5: all my time working on pro football.

1183
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: Whether it's the.

1184
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 5: Times that I spend in the weight room, to the

1185
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 5: extra time on the practice field, to the extra reps

1186
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 5: that I receive on the grass. All of that is

1187
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: about developing quickly as a player. I got access to

1188
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 5: the weight room all the time, strength conditioning coaches to

1189
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 5: make my body be at the best that it's ever been.

1190
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 5: So the pro game is different than the college game

1191
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 5: just because your pros it's now your job, your occupation.

1192
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: It becomes a bit of an obsession for some of

1193
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: those that are at the top of the food chain.

1194
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: But all of those things fact into your ability to

1195
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 5: get every last drop out of your talent before you

1196
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 5: move on to the next part of your life after football.

1197
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but I would think there's more structure in the

1198
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: college game where you know that I have to go

1199
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: to class, I have to do this, I got to

1200
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: go to the weight room, I gotta do whatever. Where

1201
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: in the pros there's more free time, hence more time

1202
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: to go forth and not get the job done.

1203
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: Right.

1204
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've heard stories about the quarterbacking situation

1205
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: in Arizona with the Cardinals that you know, he never

1206
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: watched film. They never watched film there, right, too much

1207
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 2: free time?

1208
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you have all of those things that

1209
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: they're played.

1210
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 5: The difference is in the pros, if you're not up

1211
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 5: to par in the weight room, they'll replace you and

1212
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 5: put somebody else in who knows exactly what they're doing.

1213
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: And some coaches won't blink at that possibility.

1214
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 5: Others may let you get away with that behavior, but

1215
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: ultimately it look, it unravels, and it tears apart the

1216
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 5: fabric of the team. The NFL and college are both

1217
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: full loaded with like outstanding coaches. But what you talked

1218
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 5: about that happens in the collegiate game is really essential

1219
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: to being able to be successful as a pro structure, organization, discipline,

1220
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 5: attention to detail. All of those things that are talked about,

1221
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 5: and to college your level, they all applied when you

1222
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 5: get to the NFL, which is why you've seen teams

1223
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 5: make considered efforts to draft players from winning teams, draft

1224
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: players who were team captains because they fall in line

1225
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 5: when it comes to the messaging.

1226
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: Last, but not least, I want to quiz you on

1227
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: this one. When I see players, when I see coaches,

1228
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: one year he's an offensive line coach, next year he's

1229
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: a defensive back coach. How does that work? I mean,

1230
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: the guy should be an expertise, an expert in one area,

1231
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: one specific, one specific coaching rain and they move them

1232
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: from the offensive line to the defensive back to you know,

1233
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: a quarterback coach. That happens all the time. Is it

1234
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: that simple? Does he know all the techniques of various

1235
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: positions to be a position coach? And move from one

1236
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: to another.

1237
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: No, but what you want to do.

1238
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 5: If you're a young coach and you want to be

1239
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 5: a head coach, you need to get outside of your

1240
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 5: box in terms of just coaching one position. As you

1241
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 5: think about being a coordinator or as a head coach,

1242
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: you got to be responsible for more parts of the team.

1243
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: Being a coordinator, in particular, defensive coordinator, now you got

1244
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 5: to talk to the defensive line, the linebackers, and the secondary,

1245
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: Whereas if you were just a D line coach, you're

1246
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: dealing with the nose tackles and defensive tackles, and you

1247
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 5: may not stand in front of the room and present

1248
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 5: and talk the other part of learning another position. You

1249
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 5: want to learn the entire game. The better you know

1250
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: the entire game, what teams are doing, how teams are

1251
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: doing it, why they want to do it, the more

1252
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: perspective you have to figure out, how do we need

1253
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 5: to do our job better. So now I can begin

1254
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 5: to counter some of the counter tactics that I'm going

1255
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 5: to face. And so because I have a full and

1256
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 5: comprehensive knowledge of the game. Yeah, it's encouraged. You need

1257
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 5: to coach more than just your one position because it

1258
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 5: would give your chance to be a better coach, even

1259
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 5: if it's just for a year or two.

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1261
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1262
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Speaker 6: City, go ahead, Hey, guys, great show this morning. Enjoying it.

1286
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 6: You were discussing the hype train. For me, the story

1287
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 6: of the week was Chuck Barkley as he as he

1288
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 6: wants to do is what he's doing best is to

1289
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 6: say the quiet part out loud in the in the

1290
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 6: barbershop is some of these girls like Angel Reese were

1291
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 6: chirping that they could sell out arenas without relying on

1292
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 6: one player. And then she then she deleted it. But

1293
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 6: you know, Juck Markley was right. You know, these girls

1294
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 6: should be on their hands and knees thanking Caitlin Clark

1295
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 6: at their relevant.

1296
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: They would wait, they would not be flying if it

1297
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: wasn't for Caitlin Clark really exactly.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, listen, this is great. That the

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Speaker 6: the reason we're all interested is because we're all emostly

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Speaker 6: invested in Angel Rees. The dirty deputies like the WWE.

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Speaker 6: It's not real. It's just as the back and forth.

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Speaker 6: You know, everybody loved Magic Johnson. Larry Bird was the

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Speaker 6: dirtiest trash talker, the hick from Frenschwick. People get emotionally

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Speaker 6: invested in us. I watched, I watched. I admitted the

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Speaker 6: other night I tuned into Caitlin Clark for the first

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Speaker 6: You know, I watched the w NBA game after the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Because I did the LA Sparks game.

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Speaker 3: I did too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Staples Center was sold out. You know people,

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Speaker 6: you know, they may not watch for Brianna Stewart, but

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Speaker 6: they're watching because this is a great story. It's entertaining.

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Speaker 6: You want to see how the thing ends. And I

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Speaker 6: don't think the girls understand what what what you're selling.

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Speaker 6: You want to see Luca versus the Celtics, can Orford

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Speaker 6: and the Celfie. Everybody wants to see can they finally

1316
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Speaker 6: get it? Can Luca finally be an unselfish player. It's

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Speaker 6: the storyline. It's not saying, oh, Brianna Stewart is a

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Speaker 6: great bat. We all know Brianna Stewart is a great

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Speaker 6: basketball player.

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Speaker 13: But I want to see Caitlin Clark versus the Dirty DEBUTARYE.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're exactly right. I live in Greater Cincinnati and

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Speaker 2: this weekend they're getting forty five thousand a game for

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers coming to see the Reds play. The Reds

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Speaker 2: are a bad baseball team thus far this year. But

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Speaker 2: Showhetani's in town. It's hype. That's all about. They want

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Speaker 2: to see show Heeyatani. They're gonna say they want to

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Speaker 2: see him. As I told this to Bucky weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: as I say, I live in the greatest Cincinnati area.

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Speaker 2: When Caitlin Clark and Iowa was playing Indiana, I drove

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Speaker 2: to Bloomington. I don't drive to see the University of

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati women play, but I drove to Bloomington to see

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark play. That's what I did, all right, call

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Speaker 2: me crazy, but it's the hype. It's all about hype,

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Speaker 2: that's what it is.

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Speaker 6: And it's it's great. It's great, and it's pretty much

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Speaker 6: great wholesome entertainment. And I don't think the girls kind

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Speaker 6: of understand that yet. When they're when they're kind of

1338
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 6: chirping where they're chirping and camelin, they're actually take it,

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Speaker 6: they're actually running down their own product. If anything, that

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Speaker 6: the Angel Angel Rees should be chirping more. They should

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Speaker 6: lean into this thing.

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Speaker 13: You know, well while it's hot. You know, I don't

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Speaker 13: think they have figured out the figured this out yet.

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Speaker 13: They I think they will if they will fun to

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Speaker 13: watch even.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, and Bucky, you agree with that,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure right, I mean, and look, Angel Reese is

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Speaker 2: great for the game as well. I mean, I really

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Speaker 2: believe she's been great for the game, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: She has.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think what we're having and you know,

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Speaker 5: I'll say this as a look at diehard women's basketball fan.

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Speaker 5: I've told you that my best friend and several of

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Speaker 5: my friends are women's hoops coaches at the collegiate level.

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Speaker 3: So I followed the game, and what you have.

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Speaker 5: Are casuals that have come into it because of the

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Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark as she's grown in prominence, first the collegiate level,

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Speaker 5: now going to WNBA. You have a lot of people

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Speaker 5: that are just tuning in and what has happened for

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Speaker 5: a bunch of the other players who have not gotten

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Speaker 5: what I would say, the attention that they deserve a

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Speaker 5: lot of the conversation around the WNBA has been all

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Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark. Now it's not Kaitlyn Clark's fault because she's

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Speaker 5: tried to deflect as much as possible, but because you know,

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Speaker 5: our business, the media business, we talk about one person.

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Speaker 5: Because remember, coming on the heels of d NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 5: we're talking about Kaitlyn Clark being the best women's basketball

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Speaker 5: player to ever play. Remember the conversation and all that

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Speaker 5: they hear that they watch those telecasts, they see the

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Speaker 5: attention that she's gotten in all that other stuff, and

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Speaker 5: so as competitors, you're looking for something to kind of

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Speaker 5: like poke the bear to get you going, and so

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Speaker 5: that certainly has gotten a lot of them going. They

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Speaker 5: have acknowledged because even Becky Hammond came out. They acknowledge

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Speaker 5: how great Kaitlyn Clark has been, how she certainly has

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Speaker 5: had a positive impact on the league with all the

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Speaker 5: other stuff that's coming in. But they're also not in

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Speaker 5: the business of kissing her feet at every turn because

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Speaker 5: they're competitors. So I just think, you know, everyone just

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Speaker 5: kind of has to understand the perspective not only of

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Speaker 5: being appreciative of the things that have come along since

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Speaker 5: more eyeballs have been on the sport. But also competitors

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01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 5: go at competitors, and so it's not necessarily that being

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Speaker 5: disrespectful to Caitlin Clark. But as a competitor, I am

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Speaker 5: not going to give someone one up on me when

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Speaker 5: I know I have to face them from time to

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Speaker 5: time throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are

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Speaker 2: Fox Bu's Sunday and Foxbu's ready now at Olympid medalist.

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Speaker 2: An Olympic medalist, by the way, has no clue really

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Speaker 2: that's coming up next Life from the tyrock dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: But first of our guy and w Martin wise with

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Speaker 2: all the sports, the.

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Speaker 12: Balls and Celtics leader these and Coverence finals three games

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Speaker 12: to none after last night it's coming from behind victory

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Speaker 12: one fourteen to one eleven. Jason Tatum had thirty six

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Speaker 12: points for the winning side Andrew Nemhart two for.

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Speaker 7: The losing side.

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Speaker 12: The Pacers led by as much as eighteen in the

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Speaker 12: second quarter and in the third quarter two different points

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Speaker 12: throughout the game, still lost. Also missing all NBA guard

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Speaker 12: Tyrees Haliburton for the Pacers. He missed Game three with

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Speaker 12: a hamstring injury. No word on the status for Game four,

1404
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 12: but it is the same hamstring that had him sidelined

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Speaker 12: for some of the second half of the season. NHL

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Speaker 12: Western Conference Finals, Dallas beat Edmonton three to one. Mason

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Speaker 12: Marchin broke a third period one to one tie Dallas

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Speaker 12: eventually scoring an empty netter to give the Stars.

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Speaker 7: A two goal lead.

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Speaker 12: The series tied one game apiece. The guys were just

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Speaker 12: talking about her, Kaitlyn Clark. She had eight points, seven assists,

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Speaker 12: and six turnovers as the Fever lost to the Las

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Speaker 12: Vegas Aces, where the back to back defending champs of

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Speaker 12: the WNBA Final, scoring that one ninety nine to eighty.

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Speaker 7: For the Aces, Asia Wilson.

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Speaker 12: Had twenty nine points, fifteen rebounds, Kelsey Plump twenty points

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Speaker 12: and seven assists.

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Speaker 7: Fever were on the second out of the back to back.

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Speaker 12: They got their first one of the season on Friday

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Speaker 12: night as as a the La Sparks.

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Speaker 7: Aaron Judge is homer in his last four games.

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Speaker 12: The Yankees beat the Padres of San Diego yesterday four

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Speaker 12: to one.

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Speaker 7: The Yankees look too sweet.

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Speaker 12: The three game series later today at four to ten

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Speaker 12: Eastern First pitch Dodgers lost four straight three to one

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Speaker 12: to the Reds yesterday. Walker Buehller gave up those three

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Speaker 12: runs and six hits over five and two thirds innings pitched.

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Speaker 12: Royals continued their hot streak with eight straight yesterday seven

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Speaker 12: to four. I got the Rays and eleven innings in

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Speaker 12: the Indy five hundred scheduled for later today, but there

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Speaker 12: are thunderstorms in the forecast, Andy and Bucky back to

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Speaker 12: you guys, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, thank you so much. Mauro on seeing about it.

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Speaker 2: Now we've crossed the fifty odline and what we call

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sport's ready. And this girl

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Speaker 2: is still asking for equal pay. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in just about a minute. But guy Bot and Barrew

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Speaker 2: betting on about eight nine minutes from now. But I

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Speaker 2: mentioned early on Buck about a coach that's talking about death,

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Speaker 2: and you played the game. There's no doubt about that,

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Speaker 2: you coach. Now I want to hear your thoughts on

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: social media with athletes in the locker room. What did

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Speaker 2: coaches say? What have they told you? As far as

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Speaker 2: social social media is concerned, because it can get many

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Speaker 2: an athlete in trouble.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it certainly can get guys in trouble,

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 5: but you have to understand this generation grew up living

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 5: their lives in front of the camera, meaning Instagram, TikTok, snapchat,

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 5: whatever social media platform you want to tell this is

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Speaker 5: what they know and they are used to expressing themselves

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Speaker 5: with posts and pictures and videos and those things. I

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Speaker 5: will say they're learning how to adapt to the criticism

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Speaker 5: that comes with being prominent on social media. They're learning

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Speaker 5: how to adapt with adapt to fans having direct access

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Speaker 5: to them. I would say it's a harder thing now

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Speaker 5: to be an athlete than it's ever been, just because

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Speaker 5: so many people have access to your mind, meaning their criticisms,

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 5: their critiques, what they're saying. It has the potential to

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Speaker 5: impact you because you get it from all angles. Really difficult.

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Speaker 5: But I think as a coach, what you're trying to

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Speaker 5: do is you try and give them the infram You

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 5: can let them know how you want to represent yourself

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Speaker 5: on these platforms. But then you also tell them ay man,

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Speaker 5: sometimes it's just a chance, the opportunity, it's an opportunity

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Speaker 5: for you to just check out, unplug the phone, put

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Speaker 5: the phone away, take the tadphones out and just kind

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 5: of sit and do something that doesn't involve technology and

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Speaker 5: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And why I bring that up because it's the

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Speaker 2: story just the other day about the Baltimore Ravens head

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Speaker 2: coach John hard John Harper says he wants no part

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Speaker 2: of social media. He says he doesn't have an account

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Speaker 2: and he never will, he says, and on courding him now,

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Speaker 2: he says it's a death spiral. This is what he

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Speaker 2: told USA Today's Sports in an interview. When I read

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Speaker 2: this the d of day, I was shocked. It was

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: like on the front page. He says, like every day

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Speaker 2: we're granted as a gift. This is what he says.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to turn over my days, my well being,

1481
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: my peace of mind over to social media and all

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01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: the traps that come with it. And this is funny

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: from John Harvard because his brother Jim, has over two

1484
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 2: million followers on his social media account. So two brothers

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Speaker 2: in two different directions in the same profession and coaching.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy, really, but I see where John

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: Harbor is coming from. But also Jim Harbar as well

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: has to get the message out sometimes and there's a

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 2: big following as far as teams are concerned, then maybe

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Speaker 2: that's why he's doing it. I don't know. But how

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Speaker 2: many coaches do you know have accounts and social media?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, to each his own. It depends on

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Speaker 3: how hip you are and what you're trying to use

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Speaker 3: it for.

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Speaker 5: Some people have accounts, but they're burner accounts where they're

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Speaker 5: just looking and consuming information, but they never tweet or

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01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 5: a post or do anything like that. I think you

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01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: have to know yourself and you have to know what

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Speaker 5: impacts you. If you choose to get on platforms, then

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Speaker 5: what you're doing is you're opening yourself up to seeing

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Speaker 5: all the criticisms regarding your job performance. Are you strong

1502
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 5: enough mentally to handle that or are you one that

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 5: kind of needs to bury their head in the sand

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01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 5: and not deal with it until you have to a

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Speaker 5: lot of your social media practices and whether you're active

1506
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 5: or not depend on where you fall on those two

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Speaker 5: on either side of the coin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point because I'd say more than

1509
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: half of comments on social media probably are negative. You know,

1510
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: especially if if a coach loses a game and you know,

1511
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: gambles on a play, he'll get murdered on social media.

1512
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: Even if he doesn't have an account, he's got to

1513
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: get murdered anyway, right, and he will. But you know,

1514
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: some of these people answer that. I mean, Lebron James

1515
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: is crazy. He just goes crazy on media. But I'll

1516
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 2: tell you that one guy who really gets involved and

1517
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: engages as Kevin Durant, and I think that you got

1518
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: to just let it go. I mean, he's talking to

1519
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: people basically who have beer muscles. They're just crazy and

1520
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: they want to maybe poke the bears, you say, and

1521
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: get him crazy, and he does. Kevin Durant goes nuts

1522
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: on social media.

1523
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: He does go nuts.

1524
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 5: But now I will say this because there's a fine line, right.

1525
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 5: Everyone expects athletes to turn the other cheek just because

1526
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 5: they get paid that you'd be able to handle it.

1527
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 5: They say, that's a part of the thing. But sometimes

1528
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 5: you get tired of people saying random stuff to you.

1529
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 5: Because athletes never have an opportunity to go to a

1530
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 5: civilian's job and harass him and call them all kinds

1531
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 5: of names outside of their normal name. I understand the

1532
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 5: frustration that comes along with it. As an athlete that said,

1533
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 5: it is normally better if you just don't engage, you

1534
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 5: ignore them. You can like hard or whatever, but when

1535
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 5: you get in these conversations, I mean, you're setting yourself

1536
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 5: up for some foolish rebuttals and those things. I think

1537
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 5: you just have to look acknowledge it however you want

1538
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 5: to acknowledge.

1539
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 3: It, but then let it go. To lead the person,

1540
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 3: mute the first, to block the person.

1541
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: It's hard to do that though, it really is. I mean,

1542
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: and I mentioned this too many times. I mean, when

1543
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 2: fans have a couple of beers, they got crazy, started

1544
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: yelling and screaming. And my good friend Lincoln Kennedy when

1545
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: he was in Denver, he ran into the stands to

1546
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: be delivering data. Daylights out of a guy. You know,

1547
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: the guys were throwing snowballs at him on the field

1548
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: when he was playing for the Raiders, and he just

1549
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: ran into the stands. I mean, I hate to say

1550
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 2: that he shouldn't have done it, but sometimes you just

1551
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: can't blame him. You know, they just you hit that

1552
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: moment and your brain goes crazy and it just goes

1553
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: you do it. It happened. I've seen it with people

1554
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: driving cars and you know they give you that one

1555
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: finger salute. I don't know why they do it. But

1556
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: they go nuts and the other guy would come out

1557
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: of his car and they beat the living daylights out

1558
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: of one another. Why they do it, I don't know,

1559
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: but something just ticks and you know, it goes. That's

1560
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: what happens, you know.

1561
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 3: That's why, Yeah, they can't control it.

1562
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: But that's also why you want to have enough I

1563
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: would say, emotional control to be able to handle those things,

1564
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 5: enough poise to be able to handle someone saying something crazy.

1565
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 5: That's it, though, people don't have a license because you

1566
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 5: get very comfortable saying certain things and then you know,

1567
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 5: sometimes you want to make them see you and see

1568
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 5: if they see it to your face. Because a lot

1569
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 5: of the beer moss that you talk about, I mean,

1570
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 5: people talk recklessly, people say all kinds of stuff, and

1571
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 5: sometimes you just want to call them on it. And

1572
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong with that, but you just got to

1573
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 5: know your environment, know what you're dealing with, and know

1574
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 5: when you can and when you can't respond.

1575
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: You know, I mentioned this about this Olympic medalist has

1576
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: no clue. Let's talk about this now. It was two

1577
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: time with Women's World Cup champion Olympic medalist Meghan Rappino,

1578
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: where she was in Cincinnati just the other day. And

1579
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: sixty years this is not crazy. Sixty years after the

1580
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: passage of the Equal Pay Act of nineteen sixty three,

1581
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: women still earn less than men in most jobs, okay,

1582
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: and she's still trying to change it. The USA women's

1583
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: soccer team back in twenty nineteen, they sued the US

1584
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: Soccer Federation for gender discrimination. They won twenty four million

1585
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: in the agreement back in twenty twenty two. And I

1586
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: applaud her efforts, I really do, but I will tell

1587
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: you this much, I still believe she has no clue

1588
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: how the economic structure of a sports team works. Okay,

1589
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: she wants equal pay for the WNBA with the NBA,

1590
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen until a arenas are full

1591
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: TV contracts are bigger and they play more games, or

1592
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: do they play a forty game schedule twenty and twenty

1593
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: twenty home, twenty and away or sixteen and sixteen, whatever

1594
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: it may be. There's just not enough games. It's the

1595
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: pie isn't as big as the NBA, and they're not

1596
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: going to get the same amount of money. And she

1597
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: has no clue with that. And I'm banging the drum

1598
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: and people listen to her. I don't get it. I

1599
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: just don't get it. And again I applaud her for

1600
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: doing it because eventually she's gonna wear people down, and

1601
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. That's gonna happen.

1602
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, eventually she is gonna wear people down.

1603
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 6: You know.

1604
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 5: It's funny because we just had a really really tricky time.

1605
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 5: And so what you talked about earlier, you talked about inclusion,

1606
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 5: you talked about equity, So equity and quality and all

1607
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 5: of those things are blended terms that appear to mean

1608
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 5: the same thing, but not. What she wants is equal

1609
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 5: pay for women based on the things that they're doing,

1610
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 5: and whether that's dollar for dollar, whether that's percentage at

1611
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 5: some way, shape or form.

1612
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: They can try and figure that part out.

1613
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 5: But she has every right, you know, to be like that,

1614
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 5: and as someone who talks about the business and those

1615
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 5: business yeah, the revenue models are not the same. But

1616
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 5: she should go on and just continue to increase the

1617
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 5: awareness about, Hey, we have little girls who are aspiring

1618
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: to be women who participate in these sports. We want

1619
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 5: to create opportunities where they can do just like their

1620
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 5: male counterparts able to do.

1621
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 3: They can dream of playing.

1622
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 5: Pro sports and not have to play pro sports and

1623
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: have another job, or not be on the Olympic team,

1624
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 5: but also have to do this because you're not equally

1625
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 5: funded enough to be able to pursue those things.

1626
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: I understand where she's coming from.

1627
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 5: I respect her position in terms of all of those things,

1628
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 5: but also see how the revenue has to be comparable

1629
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 5: to be able to pull some of these things off.

1630
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: But in every conversation, there's a middle ground that they

1631
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 5: can find. Hopefully she and the powers that be can

1632
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 5: find that middle ground that satisfies all parties.

1633
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: You're exactly right. And we talked about this and asked

1634
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: Bucky that the NFL hired a VP for flag football.

1635
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: I'm afraid there's going to be a flag football league

1636
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: down the road with women, and Megan Rapino is going

1637
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 2: to say that they should get as much money as

1638
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: the NFL. That's just going to happen, okay, And she

1639
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: has no clue because I don't think flag football eventually

1640
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: may be on TV if they have a league, but

1641
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: don't have it got the same salary as the NFL gets.

1642
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: It just doesn't work that way. It can't and it won't. Sorry, Sorry, Megan,

1643
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: I employed your efforts, but it's not gonna work that way.

1644
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: All right, let's roll on. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman,

1645
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: and we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

1646
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: This man owns this game until today because bottom barrel

1647
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: betting is freaking next. All right, bottom barrel betting right

1648
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: around the ben. It's about eleven minutes now before the

1649
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: top of the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday and

1650
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports.

1651
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 7: Ready.

1652
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman, and we are live

1653
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studios. We got a

1654
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: game to play. Let's play it. It's bottom.

1655
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 3: Money to sleep.

1656
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: People, get my money.

1657
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: I'll put your brain to sleep betting.

1658
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's bucket knows here. The eye Man is back.

1659
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: The Eye Man is back with us today. My good

1660
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: luck John, I'm man. How you doing the way you've been?

1661
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm good to be back. I don't know if i'm

1662
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: your good luck charm. But but you guys did split

1663
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: last week. According to Shay. He gave me that info.

1664
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: It was test to win.

1665
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 4: That's a winful. We'll take that as a win for Andy.

1666
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 4: Just you know, at considering BUCkies, you have the futual dominance. Yes,

1667
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: so the total scores Bucky forty three, Andy thirty one.

1668
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: So you're still you're you're striking distance Andy too bid?

1669
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, too bid.

1670
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1671
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 4: But let's get into this week's.

1672
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers about a barrel betting.

1673
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you're you're on the horizon there. There's

1674
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 4: some promise you have a young star cub.

1675
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1676
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 4: We'll get into the lines here. So we'll start with

1677
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 4: floorball in Russia. Pretty much, floorball is like indoor hockey,

1678
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 4: not on ice. It's just in a gym, but it's

1679
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: in Russia. So Neiva at plus one forty six versus

1680
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 4: Soul Nuka or Lee at plus one oh six. Yeah,

1681
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 4: I just butchered that.

1682
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: The champ goes notes first, he's Bucky.

1683
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 4: Bucky. We'll start with you. We'll say Niva versus s O.

1684
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 4: We'll call it who you got.

1685
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take Neva Neiva.

1686
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm gonna ask you, how did you

1687
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: find about this sport floor ball?

1688
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1689
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 4: It's on uh international betting site called marathon bet. I

1690
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: found it on there.

1691
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 2: Okay, if you ever heard of floa ball, No, I

1692
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: can't say that I've ever heard of it. Sounds like

1693
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: the sport that I could probably play.

1694
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: Really, I had to look it up. It's like field hockey,

1695
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: but not on grass. It's literally just in a gym.

1696
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: How many on a team? But force five six or

1697
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: something like that.

1698
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 4: I think six on six.

1699
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: Later, I'll got that, son Yuk. Yeah, whatever it is,

1700
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: all right, all right?

1701
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: Next, all right, squash confident. You guys have heard of squash?

1702
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh yes, so the eight squash?

1703
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: Well the sport the sports squash. Yes, common misconception there.

1704
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 4: But PSA, the PSA Pro Squash Association World Tour Finals

1705
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 4: are actually happening today.

1706
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: Where good question that I do. Sorry, Terrek.

1707
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: Terrek moment is facing off against Ian yoo Ung. Trek

1708
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: moment is minus two fifty six and yoo Ung is

1709
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 4: plus one seventy five.

1710
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm up here. I gotta know what he is. You

1711
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: are the eye man. He gotta go with the iman.

1712
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.

1713
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Bucky.

1714
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 3: When we go to can, I'm gonna take the other side.

1715
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 4: Non taken, non taken. Right next, we have sumo. Actually

1716
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 4: found some sumo lines. I'm excited about that. We got

1717
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 4: a Tommy Fuji at minus one eighty nine, facing off

1718
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 4: against Taka no Show at plus one forty Bucky, who

1719
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 4: you got?

1720
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 3: Oh good? I'm going with the Fuji's Tommy Fuji.

1721
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 7: You got it?

1722
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: You know?

1723
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: Is there a weight requirement for for that? I mean

1724
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: you have to be a certain amount of poundage to Yeah?

1725
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 11: Are you?

1726
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 4: Are you thinking of getting into it?

1727
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: Andy?

1728
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 4: Is that while you're at no?

1729
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that big BlimE me. I'm really the

1730
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: Takohu Shimo Takamu show a Tako no show, Taka no

1731
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: show no show. Yeah, there you go, I got him?

1732
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 11: All right?

1733
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: Is that what bucket? The bucket didn't have Takao show,

1734
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: didn't they? No, he didn't, Fuji?

1735
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, on your opposite sides, Not to worry. Another

1736
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 4: sumo matchup, takea Yasu at plus one eleven versus gon

1737
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 4: Yama at minus one forty seven.

1738
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: I gotta go with Takayasi. Must be a relative, okay,

1739
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: so I can't go against the family. Sure, two of

1740
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: a kind, naturally, right, Bucky? Well, I guess they had

1741
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: to be Yaka going to Yama? Is everyone options?

1742
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: All right?

1743
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: Could you make the names a little easier? Could you

1744
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: pick some.

1745
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 4: Snuff all right, last matchup for the checkers.

1746
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: Give me your checkers or chess or something.

1747
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 4: There is there's one women's college lacrosse matchup tomorrow or today. Actually,

1748
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 4: so it's a Boston College at plus one forty five

1749
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 4: versus Northwestern at minus one ninety Bucky, who you got?

1750
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh give me Northwestern North Chicago.

1751
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 4: Mike Carmen will be happy about that.

1752
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know what that if it's Mike Harmon's school, right,

1753
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm not taking it anyway. I'm going with Boston College,

1754
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: Boston College at Eagles. Going with the Eagles at Boston College,

1755
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: all right? No, why Doug Flutie played there. I'll go

1756
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: with Boston colle interesting reasoning.

1757
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 6: All right.

1758
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 4: I'll update you guys with the scores next week. All right,

1759
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: there's nothing left, nothing left more?

1760
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: All right, that's fine. Do we have a little time.

1761
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, everybody saw this coming. We're gonna tell

1762
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 2: you all about it and more where on Fox Sports

1763
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: Sunday coming up right here next Stay with us.

1764
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox sport's ready. He's

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01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,960
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1773
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Speaker 2: And I haven't even asked you who your pick is

1774
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: to win the NBA Championship. I haven't even asked you

1775
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: that I'm going to do it right now. What do

1776
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: you think?

1777
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: Man, it's such a good one.

1778
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 5: I say the Boston Celtz a prohibit of favor, but

1779
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 5: I'm pulling for the Mavericks to win it. I just

1780
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 5: love the way uh Luke and Carrie you have been

1781
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 5: working off one another. So I'm gonna go with the Mavericks,

1782
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 5: even though I feel like the celts Is are the

1783
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 5: best team in the NBA.

1784
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: You know, I saw that game the other night and

1785
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 2: the way Luca hit that shot to put them over

1786
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: the top. It was a two point game. It's hit

1787
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: that shot with about twenty eight seconds to go. It

1788
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: was a tremendous shot in Minnesota, no less, and I

1789
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: just think Minnesota a great defensive team, maybe just a

1790
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: little too young, maybe a year or so away. Dallas

1791
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 2: has got a great team there. But I think with Boston,

1792
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 2: I like Boston because I think you just don't know

1793
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: who's going to beat you. I think Jalen Brown is

1794
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: the best player on that team. But yesterday when Boston

1795
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 2: beat Indianapolis and they came back from eighteen down, it

1796
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: was Jason Tatum who put in thirty six. They have

1797
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: five guys in double figures, and now even with porzingis

1798
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: hurt god Al Horford getting twenty three big ones. I mean,

1799
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: whoever expected him to get twenty three points? And Derek

1800
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: White's playing well thirteen had five guys in double figures.

1801
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: So you know, if you would to ask me, I

1802
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: think the Boston Celta is gonna win it al though,

1803
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: and I want that to win it because I want

1804
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: to see all these naysayers eat some crow, because these

1805
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: are the same people behind microphones are saying they're not

1806
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: that good, you know, and whatever it may be, there's problems,

1807
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: and that coach Well team wonts sixty four games this year,

1808
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: not coach Well really you have to have your head examined.

1809
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Give give me a coach that doesn't coach well and

1810
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: wins me sixty four games. I'll take them any day

1811
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: of the week.

1812
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: So we move on.

1813
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: I just don't believe what. Maybe they just do it

1814
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: just to just to get their name out there. I

1815
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe that's the name of the day, the

1816
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: name of the game is, like, you know, say something

1817
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: that may be stupid, you know, but people will talk

1818
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 2: about you, and you name will get out there. So

1819
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: maybe that's why they do it. I don't know. But anyway,

1820
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I want to get into this situation because this really

1821
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: is big news. It really is the college athletics system

1822
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: as we see it right here and now. Today the

1823
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: athletes can rake in the cash off their name, image

1824
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: and likeless and il, but they can't until next year

1825
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: get directly paid to play, which is kind of crazy.

1826
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: So they can make nil money all right, but they

1827
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: can't get paid to play until next year and next

1828
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: year when that big two point seventy five million dollars

1829
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 2: billion dollar deal is going to take into effect with

1830
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: the power of five schools, so they could get money

1831
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: from an nil and getting paid to play. I mean

1832
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,959
Speaker 2: you can make some big time money in college athletics

1833
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: right now. Do you regret that I'm a little bit.

1834
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a little late to the show. I

1835
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: mean you feel a little jealous about that.

1836
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm a little envious, yeah, but not in a bad way.

1837
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 5: I just remember like doing various things in college during

1839
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 5: the summertime to save up money for the entire fall

1840
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 5: semester and trying to pick up odds.

1841
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 3: And ends, like little things that you could do legally

1842
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: to make it happen. And I think now with nil

1843
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: and that.

1844
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 5: Not being a factor, I think it really frees you

1845
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 5: up to really focus on being the best student and

1846
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 5: an athlete that you can be on campus. So to me,

1847
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 5: I'm envious that those guys are getting everything, but I

1848
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 5: certainly appreciate them taking care of it when they get it.

1849
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: And you're right, I mean, and I think they deserve

1850
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: it and they should get it, and that's the way

1851
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be. So and they bring us so

1852
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: much money for the school. We've we've been down that

1853
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: road before. They increase in Rome with they sell merchandise,

1854
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: they get the games on TV TV, and the TV

1855
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: money goes to the college and these are the performers.

1856
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 2: It's the only business in the world where the performers

1857
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: don't get paid, you know. And then you get the

1858
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: people out there and the bush is yelling, well, they

1859
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: got a free scholarship, so what so why? Really? You know,

1860
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 2: just about anybody who goes to college here gets some

1861
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: sort of money, some sort of grant for something. Really,

1862
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: there's so many grants out there that people do get

1863
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: some sort of academic grant or whatever it may be.

1864
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: So everybody's getting money. I don't think anybody pays full

1865
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: freight going with the college anymore. Maybe I'm mistaken, but

1866
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they do. Really, there's always a deal

1867
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: for somebody out there.

1868
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 3: There always deals to be made. There always deals to

1869
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: be made, for sure.

1870
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. All right, So let's talk about

1871
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: this first that here's a twist. Well you mentioned it

1872
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: early on today. The quarterback Jaden Rashada, that's his name.

1873
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: I believe Rashada, star quarterback lord to a big time

1874
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: school with the promise of millions of dollars and the

1875
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,440
Speaker 2: deal fell through. Okay, this happened, I think last TUESDAYA

1876
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 2: sued the University of Florida's head football coach. He sued

1877
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: the administrator of the school, and he sued a top

1878
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: donor in federal court alleging they fraudently induced him to

1879
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: abandon a lucrative author from another program to sign with

1880
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: the Florida Gators instead. And the lawsuit accuses of prominent

1881
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: Florida booster and his name is you Hathcock, of conspiring

1882
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: with the Florida Gators coach Billy Napier and former director

1883
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 2: of a player engagement Marcus Castro Walker to entice Rashada

1884
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 2: with a payday that they had no intention of fulfilling.

1885
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: As a result of those fraudulent assurances from Florida, Rashada

1886
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: lost a chance to pursue other opportunities. I'm sure he's

1887
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: not alone. I'm sure other situations have happened before. But

1888
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: this raises the question of like, if you're getting nil money,

1889
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: is there a contract or a handschack? How does that work?

1890
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 5: So when you are a part of a collective, like

1891
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 5: what those dudes do is they agree to a deal

1892
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 5: and there's certain services and appearances that you have to meet.

1893
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 5: There may be other things that are part of it,

1894
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 5: and then you get the check each month, they dig

1895
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 5: it up, make sure you get it each and every month,

1896
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 5: and so it's almost like another stipend check that comes

1897
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 5: along and you just have to live up to your

1898
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 5: hold up your end of the bargain, whether that's community service,

1899
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 5: being out there, endorsing a product or whatever.

1900
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: But there's certain stipulations and conditions that go with the money.

1901
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 3: And look, it's been a solid thing. It's been a

1902
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: solid thing.

1903
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 5: Throughout because you see the players, players that staying longer

1904
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 5: in college, whether it's to get a degree or not,

1905
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 5: they're staying in and so some of it has been positive.

1906
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,520
Speaker 5: The negative parts can be cleaned up, just more organization

1907
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 5: and regulation. Where I always say, regards the wins whins,

1908
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 5: people can jump into portal, what happens if the jimp

1909
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 5: in the porter, how they paid them money back, et cetera,

1910
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 5: et cetera.

1911
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: This is an amazing story, really is, and I'm really

1912
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 2: happy it came out because I don't think he's alone.

1913
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are others and maybe other athletes are

1914
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: embarrassed to come out there and say that they got

1915
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: screwed on this deal. But the attorney for Rashada is rusty,

1916
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: hard and Rusty Harden said the other day. He said, sadly,

1917
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: this type of fraud is becoming more commonplace in the

1918
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: wild West, that is today's college an io landscape. It's unbelievable,

1919
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 2: it says Jaden seeks to hold these defendants accountable for

1920
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: their actions and to expose there as yet unchecked abuse

1921
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: of power. I wonder how in fact this case will

1922
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: end if in fact he's going to get the money

1923
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: promised to him. All right, he was one of the

1924
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: top high school quarterbacks for the class of twenty twenty three.

1925
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: He initially committed to the University of Miami in June

1926
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two, and he had a deal of

1927
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: nine point five million dollars and that it was an

1928
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: endorsement deal with the Hurricanes and a Hurricanes booster. But

1929
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: months later he slipped his allegiance to Florida with the

1930
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: expectation that he would be getting even more from this

1931
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: guy Halfcock, a car dealer for the University of Florida

1932
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 2: in Gainesville. And it never happened. How do you like that?

1933
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 2: So this is a crazy situation. But again, nothing in writing,

1934
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Speaker 2: So I don't know what is going to happen in

1935
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Speaker 2: the courts real. I feel bad for the kid, I

1936
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Speaker 2: really do.

1937
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel bad for the kid. I feel bad

1938
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Speaker 5: for him and his family. They would count on that.

1939
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's significant money, that's life altering money at

1940
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Speaker 5: that stage of his career, but it didn't go through.

1941
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Speaker 3: So now he has to do to repair and ultimately

1942
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Speaker 3: repair his game and his name because he's gonna.

1943
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Speaker 5: Have to earn it from the bottom. He's going to

1944
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 5: have to earn it from scratch. And the only way

1945
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 5: you're gonna be able to do it down to Georgia

1946
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 5: is you got to play at a high level. So

1947
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 5: the only thing he can control is his performance and

1948
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Speaker 5: his preparation. So he needs to prepare to play great,

1949
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 5: so he can't play great when he gets his chance.

1950
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Speaker 2: It's amazing because I think Florida released him from his

1951
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: national letter of intent. He enrolled at Arizona's, he appeared

1952
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: in three games for the Arizona State sun Devils, and

1953
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Speaker 2: now he's at Georgia, as you said, and he's not

1954
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Speaker 2: expected to see much action this year. And the good

1955
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: news is that you don't have to sit out a

1956
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: year anymore. That was the old ruling, but now you

1957
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: don't have to do that, But the NCAA regulations prohibit

1958
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Speaker 2: boosters from interacting with recruits or using the allure of

1959
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: nil money to convince players to choose the specific schools.

1960
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Speaker 2: So my question is, how did this guy halfcock get

1961
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Speaker 2: a hold of Rashada to promise him the money that

1962
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Speaker 2: he never got if he's not allowed to interact with

1963
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: recruits he went through the athletic threat, how does that work?

1964
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Speaker 2: Because all of a sudden, now, can't this put the

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Speaker 2: University of Florida on big time probation.

1966
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Speaker 5: Maybe we'll see if he puts them on probation, if

1967
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 5: they get any kind of slap on the rists from

1968
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 5: the NCUBA. I would say it's not hard to find

1969
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 5: prominent recruits. Everyone puts their Twitter handle and highlights up

1970
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 5: there when they release them, when they tweet them or whatever.

1971
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 5: So it is that hard to And when you follow

1972
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 5: him the recruiting rancords, you see his name atop the list,

1973
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 5: You see the schools that are interested in him, and

1974
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 5: you know, if you're a prominent booster with deep pockets,

1975
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 5: you do whatever you got to do for the program.

1976
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 5: That's so we're seeing more people be able to do that,

1977
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 5: but they want a greater say in how those bundies

1978
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 5: are distributed.

1979
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I read a little bit of the Rashata suit,

1980
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: and the suit a ledgens that on his official visit

1981
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: to Gainesville the University of Florida that was back in

1982
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: June of twenty two. Whoever has spoke with this guy

1983
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Hathcock who's an order dealer, and this guy haf Got

1984
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: also is a big time Gators football fan and he

1985
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: has given millions, they say, to the University of Florida

1986
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: football program. But he told Rashata, according to the filing

1987
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: in the suit, he told Rashada that he would make

1988
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: it happen. Quote, he would make it happen. Whatever Rashada

1989
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: needed to pick Florida said, he would make it happen.

1990
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: Then he came back and said that he never dealt

1991
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: directly was shot at. That's what he said after the fact.

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01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: And I guess he said that because he's not a

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01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: lot to talk directly to a recruit. That's why he

1994
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: did that. I guess to cover the University of Florida

1995
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: and not get them in trouble. The funny thing is

1996
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: this guy half cocked, he'll never get in any sort

1997
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 2: of trouble at all. Really, I wouldn't think, right, it's

1998
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna be the athletic director or the guy who's in

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01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: charge of NIL. A lot of these colleges now have

2000
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: like an NIL administrator. So that's the guys that get screwed.

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 5: I would think maybe, But he still will have some

2002
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 5: if he's involved, he'll have to pay for it in

2003
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 5: some way, shape or form.

2004
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 3: They'll find a way to make sure he doesn't get

2005
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: off the hook. But it may not be as.

2006
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 5: Severe as the punishments of the other zoom receive, but

2007
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 5: he absolutely will get punished.

2008
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Right and according to the agent of US, I guess

2009
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: Rashat has an agent. I guess these kids have agents. Now,

2010
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: the high school kids have agents. I mean I didn't

2011
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: know that. I guess they do. You probably know that, right,

2012
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: they do, these guys representing them now at the high

2013
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: school level going to college. And there was a quote

2014
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 2: on one of his texts that said, tell Jayden, we

2015
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: look forward to sitting him up for life and need

2016
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 2: to set up his broker accounts asap. So in other words,

2017
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 2: I think the kids in pretty good shape. That he's

2018
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 2: going to get some sort of money from somebody because

2019
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 2: he got screwed. I mean really and truly. So now

2020
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: he's a Georgia at square one, making no money at all.

2021
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: I assume he's got a scholarship playing football at Georgia.

2022
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 2: He's not paying to go to school there, Is that correct?

2023
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, it's definitely not paying to go

2024
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 3: to school there. But it's I mean, it's interesting. All

2025
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 3: of it is interesting, like just the landscape of it

2026
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 3: of it all, and you've got to be up on

2027
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 3: the rules and who can talk to whom and those things.

2028
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 5: And I think the good that could and should come

2029
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 5: out of this is just more regulation, just keeping everyone

2030
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 5: on the same page.

2031
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 3: So the playing field is level.

2032
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 2: Okay, And it's just the NCAA and that was open

2033
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: an investigation into potential violations committed by Florida and it's

2034
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 2: recruitment of Vershata. So again I'm looking forward not only

2035
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: to the result of this case, but I'm looking forward

2036
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: to other athletes coming up forward and saying, look who

2037
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 2: has promised big time money and I never got it

2038
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 2: from a an NIL booster and it's ugly. And look again,

2039
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 2: we said this many times. This NIL situation has opened

2040
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: up a can of worms. Is it good? I don't know.

2041
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's good that athletes get paid.

2042
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 2: I like what's happening now with the NCUBA, but the

2043
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 2: individual's individual guys, athletes, men or women going to various

2044
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 2: car dealers or whatever it may be. I just don't

2045
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 2: think it's healthy. I don't think it's good, and I

2046
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: think it creates a tension and friction among the other

2047
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 2: athletes on the team, don't you think, I mean, the

2048
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: star quarterback one time money and everybody else gets nothing.

2049
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if it necessarily create some friction

2050
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 5: in that regard, you know what I'm saying, Like, if

2051
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 5: everyone's getting.

2052
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 3: Paid, I think it just kind of depends.

2053
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 5: I think you have to have enough awareness to understand

2054
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 5: what you're getting, and a lot of it, to me,

2055
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 5: depends on how to hear it, coach handles it. You know,

2056
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 5: if you're a prominent player, store quarterback, you can get more.

2057
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 5: I've had conversations with coaches about this. They do talk

2058
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 5: about it being very much like NFL football, and you

2059
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 5: have to kind of approach it like that. If I mean,

2060
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 5: you got to have cap you know, even whether it's

2061
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 5: real or magic, you got to have a salary cap.

2062
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 5: That you're working off of to figure out how much

2063
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 5: I'm willing to spend in certain areas to get certain players,

2064
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 5: and what areas are we not willing to go above

2065
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 5: that line.

2066
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,799
Speaker 3: So it takes a little bit more of an NFL

2067
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 3: mind somewhere in the situation to be able to help

2068
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: them navigate the management piece.

2069
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a deal you You played for a great

2070
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: man at University of North Carolina, Matt Brown. I love

2071
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: Matt Brown. He's one of the few guys that writes

2072
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: me back all the time. I love him. However, he's

2073
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 2: an old timer. He's old school. You know. Have you

2074
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: talked to him about this? Has he been able to

2075
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: adapt the NIL?

2076
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: He talked about it, and he came out like I

2077
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 5: think a week or ago where he talked about people

2078
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 5: need to quit attacking the players about NIL making it

2079
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 5: seem like the players are greedy, Like he said, look,

2080
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 5: that's not the case, like that. They should have been

2081
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 5: paid a long time ago. But we got to create

2082
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 5: a system that is fair for everybody, a system when

2083
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 5: it comes destruction out of day, make sure everyone gets work,

2084
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 5: gets the right amount of work and pay and all

2085
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 5: that other stuff.

2086
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 3: So it's not just on the players.

2087
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 5: It's on the coaches to show the players how to

2088
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 5: you know, lock in and focus on the things that

2089
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 5: that matter before casting that wondering I somewhere else.

2090
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: You know, I tell you what I would have to

2091
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 2: say to Ni L And I think this has been commonplace.

2092
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: Several coaches have left the profession because they don't want

2093
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 2: to get involved with an IL. I think Jay right

2094
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: at Villanova is one of the coaches that left because NIL.

2095
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: I think coach k at Duke, I think he walked

2096
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 2: away through because he w wasn't have no part of it.

2097
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: I think that's that's part of the deal.

2098
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 11: Though.

2099
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 2: Do you think that they left coaching because of NIL?

2100
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 5: Maybe they may, They may have left, But I will say,

2101
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 5: you know, it's funny to me that they left because

2102
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 5: of the NIL, because they certainly benefited from all the

2103
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 5: players and all the money that they made on the

2104
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 5: backs of those players. To me, it would seem like

2105
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 5: you would be okay because it's business in a capitalistic

2106
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 5: society like Look, it's about the dollar, and the dollar

2107
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 5: moves the needle, and you have to be willing to change.

2108
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 5: Some of these guys are unwilling to change because they

2109
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 5: don't want to ever have to evolve the situation. They

2110
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 5: don't want it to be a situation where when you're

2111
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 5: interacting with players, it no longer becomes a dictatorship. It

2112
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 5: becomes a partnership where you have to respectfully go back

2113
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 5: and forth with players and those things. That's not what

2114
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 5: some people signed up for, and if you didn't, then

2115
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 5: it's probably best for you to walk away from the game.

2116
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 5: But it's a little disingenuous to blame Nil for all

2117
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 5: of those roles because Dano deals it's not impacting the

2118
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 5: game to the point where we're seeing these guys talk

2119
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,440
Speaker 5: about the money and all that other stuff, just not inil.

2120
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Speaker 2: I like, he's Bucky Brooks. Get them on Twitter. You

2121
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 2: got a comment at Bucky Brooks or at Athy Furman FSL.

2122
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 2: We'll read them, we'll retweet them if they're worthy, if

2123
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: they're worthy enough, or you give us a holler at

2124
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety Fox that translates to eight seven

2125
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. We've got

2126
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: the blame game at the bottom of this hour. And

2127
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: of course I hate to say it, I really do.

2128
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but some of our media

2129
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 2: brethren are just playing stupid. That's next. All right, what

2130
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: the hell did you expect him to say? That's right

2131
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 2: around the corner. We'll get to that out in just

2132
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Speaker 2: about a minute. All right, he's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy

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Speaker 2: Firmanwell live from the tire rock dot Com studios. And

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Speaker 2: the air. And I said that some coaches, some media

2142
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Speaker 2: people in our business are just playing stupid. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into this buck in a second. Okay, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions Division champs twenty twenty three. They lost

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Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship Game to the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: and coming into this season, believe it or not, the

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Speaker 2: Lions have the fourth best odds to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So at the OTA's this week media person, I really

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Speaker 2: hate to say that because it kind of is a

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01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: broad brush that. You know, you're a media guy. I'm

2151
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 2: a media guy, and this moron's a media guy as well.

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01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: A media person is Dan Campbell? Is it's super Bowl

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01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: or bust? All right, hey, coach, what do you have

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01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 2: to say to this moron?

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Speaker 14: I don't see bust. I see super Bowl. I don't

2156
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 14: know what the bust is. So super Bowl or it's

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01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:30,560
Speaker 14: you know, here's what I know?

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01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: Man, we all know what.

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Speaker 14: Then every team ought to have that, right, Every team

2160
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 14: ought to be like, man, what are you playing for?

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Speaker 14: You're playing for a super Bowl? So we're no different

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Speaker 14: than that. But I think, yeah, we know that. Now

2163
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 14: we work backwards from there, and so you got to

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01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 14: set yourself up no different than last year. Certain things

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Speaker 14: you got to do to really make that valid, you know,

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Speaker 14: make that a reality. And so that's yeah, ultimately that's

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Speaker 14: what we want to do now. To do that, you

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Speaker 14: better win the division. You got to give yourself the

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01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 14: best odds you can, right, you need to win the division.

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Speaker 14: You need to best seating you possibly do. Okay, well,

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01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 14: how you do that? Well, you got to start with

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01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 14: where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 14: You got to go back to work. You got to

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Speaker 14: do all the little things which to this point. Our

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01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 14: guys have done man, they've been here for off season.

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Speaker 14: They're grinding their work, and we're in good shape. We're

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Speaker 14: strong or physical or explosive, and we're just in the

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Speaker 14: beginning of this, all right.

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Speaker 2: Coach Dan Campbell of the Detroit Lines, you gotta love

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Speaker 2: the guy. He's aggressive, he's passionate. I love the guy

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Speaker 2: and more than that, he didn't kind of smack this

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Speaker 2: guy around because it was a stupid question. Because Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you this. Doesn't every team and coach have

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01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 2: their eyes and goals to win the Super Bowl where

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01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 2: they're going to camp in July. That's basically what you

2187
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 2: play for. So why would this guy? You know, let

2188
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 2: me set this up. Maybe the public doesn't know this.

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01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: You know, the media is a group that come together

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01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: may I don't know how big it may be, twenty

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01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: thirty people, men and women, professionals, TV, radio, newspaper, guys.

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01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: So when you ask this question like you're doing in

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Speaker 2: front of your brethren, and like you aren't you embarrassed?

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 2: Aren't you embarrassed? Ask the question is it super Bowl

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Speaker 2: or bust? Can you not get a better question? You

2196
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: know what the question should have been phrased, maybe, hey, coach,

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Speaker 2: how are you prepping for the super Bowl this year?

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Speaker 2: What weeks have you made with your lineup to get

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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl this year? That would be the question.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl a bust? That's ridiculous. I mean, so, in

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Speaker 2: other words, Buck, if he doesn't win the super Bowl,

2202
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: the season is a failure. Is that what he's saying?

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Speaker 2: Help me out here?

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Speaker 5: Come on, I mean, I guess that's what he's saying

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01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 5: to me. I think what you're trying to do is

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01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 5: you're trying to get him to outline expectations for the team.

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01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 3: And hoping that he gives you a bigger nugget. He

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Speaker 3: elected not to, and that's fine, but you could coerce.

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Speaker 5: It's like some of these guys into being able kind

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01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 5: of talk about it and talk about what my expectations are,

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01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 5: talk about what the goals are, talk about what I

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01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 5: talk to the team about. He said, though, like it's

2213
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, there's no bust. So his expectation this team

2214
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 5: is going to be a viable contender there. But look,

2215
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 5: it shouldn't be super Bowl a bust in any way,

2216
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 5: shape or form, because last year he got to the

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 5: championship game and should have probably wanted Maybe they had

2218
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 5: opportunities to kind of put a vice grip on it

2219
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 5: and didn't and then I just came back and took it.

2220
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 5: But this team is one step away, so I would

2221
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 5: anticipate him saying, yeah, like I'll talk about people would

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01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 5: get it right, but we're gonna be fineing.

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Speaker 3: We don't mind putting it out there so everyone knows

2224
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 3: what we're aiming for.

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01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 2: Would you have loved to play for a guy like

2226
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell? I mean, to me, he's the kind of

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 2: guy and make you run through fire.

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01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: I would like to play for him because of a

2229
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 3: few different things.

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01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 5: He not only appears to kind of get it, like

2231
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 5: his awareness and IQ and how you build the team

2232
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of, but also he's loaded his coaching

2233
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 5: staff with a bunch of former players, and so it's

2234
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 5: been a great opportunity to watch a team with former

2235
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 5: players kind of put it together, teach and educate. So

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01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 5: I just love all that part of him, and the

2237
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 5: city of Detroit is one of my favorite cities to

2238
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 5: go watch a game. To do that, the people really

2239
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 5: ride or die with the Lions environment, meaning you can

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01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 5: tell it impacts I mean it impacts everybody when he

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01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 5: walks in the building.

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01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 3: He gets that.

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01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 5: You can tell it because he's done a really good

2244
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 5: job of knowing who he is, what he wants division

2245
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,560
Speaker 5: to the team to be. But surround himself with a

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01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 5: bunch of players that kind of can recreate the locker

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01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 5: room and build that camaraderie that you need to play

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01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 5: at a high level.

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01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 2: And it looks like the players level. You know the

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Speaker 2: term super Bowl of bus. I'm gonna translate that now

2251
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 2: because I know what's going to happen if the Boston

2252
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Celtics don't win it. All the media people are gonna

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01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 2: say the season is a bus. I get it. I

2254
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: know they've been so close they could almost taste it,

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01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 2: and I haven't won the title. But you know what,

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01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that people who say that realize how

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01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: tough it is, how tough it is. I mean, you know,

2258
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 2: you played the game. It's tough, okay, And I understand

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01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 2: you can't call it a failure. It's a disappointment, no

2260
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 2: doubt about that. And they want to win it, but

2261
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 2: sometimes it just breaks don't go their way and it

2262
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 2: can't get it done. So there's a lot of pressure.

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 2: You're on the Celtics this year because should they not

2264
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 2: win the title of the championship this year, there's going

2265
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 2: to be those people out there waiting to pounce on them.

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01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 2: And the Bush is saying this season was a failure. No,

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01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 2: it's not a failure. It's just it's a disappointment. That's

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Speaker 2: what it was, or what it might be.

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01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you get to a certain point, if you're

2270
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 5: always knocking on the door, it is about that.

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01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 3: But you have to be able to balance what the

2272
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 3: end game is. The end game is to be a

2273
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 5: Against a We can't worry about that part of We

2275
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 5: got to focus on our process and the things that

2276
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 5: we need to do to put ourselves in a position

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01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 5: to win it. And so if you can find a

2278
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 5: way to be process driven as opposed to results driven,

2279
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 5: it gives you a chance. You know what it is,

2280
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 5: and whether you say it or not, everyone knows that

2281
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 5: it's about the super Bowl or you're not. Because either

2282
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 5: your first or your last, it doesn't matter what you

2283
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 5: finished in between. Only one person gets a chance to

2284
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 5: have the confetti fall on top of them. So you

2285
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 5: want to build your team and in a way that

2286
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 5: gives your chance to do it, but you ultimately can't

2287
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 5: control if you guys win.

2288
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: Or not, right, And there's a certain difference between the

2289
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions that have been the perennial losers for so

2290
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 2: many years. To compare it to the Boston Celtics who

2291
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 2: have come so close over the less several years, getting

2292
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 2: to the finals in twenty twenty two and not winning it.

2293
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 2: There's a bit of a difference because I think the

2294
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are on the uphill climb, you know, tasting it.

2295
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: They're working up the mountain. As you say, they should

2296
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 2: have won it last year, they should have beat San Francisco.

2297
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 2: They did not, but the division champs, and this team

2298
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: has never won a Super Bowl and that the city

2299
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: is starving for a winner. So they have a shot.

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01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 2: And if they don't make it this year, they won't

2301
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: be considered losers and they won't be a bust. But

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01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 2: they're on their way and you could see the growth

2303
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 2: in this team, which is a lot different than the

2304
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: comparison to Boston with the Celtics who've been there the

2305
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: last six seven years. There's a lot of difference, you know,

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 2: and the Detroit Lions has Division champs. I think you

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01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 2: have to say it's a very successful year. I don't

2308
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: think last year would be considered a bust for the Lions.

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01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 2: I think it was a surprise for many people.

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01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think there's definitely something to that.

2311
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 5: But at some point made you want to win it all.

2312
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 5: And when you have the bitter taste in them off

2313
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 5: like they have from falling a game short, the natural

2314
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 5: inclination is you want to fast forward, get right back

2315
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 5: to the postseason to see if you can get it there.

2316
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 3: But they can't.

2317
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 5: They have to make sure they go through the entire

2318
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 5: process of building the team the right way and make

2319
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 5: sure everyone is on the same page and those things

2320
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 5: when they do that, but then to win, it's just

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01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 5: a natural byproduct of doing all those other things.

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Speaker 3: Really well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermerweal Fox Sports onny A Fox.

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Speaker 2: But s right by the way. If it's so popular,

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Speaker 2: why is it a failure? That's coming up next live

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Speaker 2: from theti irack dot Com studios. But first, our guy

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss, what all your sports?

2328
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Speaker 7: The Boston Celtiers lead the Eastern Conference Finals three games

2329
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 7: to none. Last night, they.

2330
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 12: Cand to come from behind victory one fourteen to one eleven.

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01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 12: Jason Tatum with thirty six for the Boston Andrew Nemhar

2332
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,600
Speaker 12: thirty two in the loss for Indiana. Patris led by

2333
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 12: as much as eighteen at two different points throughout the game.

2334
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 12: And the Western Conference Final between Dallas and Edmonton, the

2335
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 12: Stars won three two one. Mason Marshman broke the third

2336
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 12: period one one tigh Dallas, eventually scoring an empty netter

2337
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 12: to give the Stars a two goal lead. Series tied

2338
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 12: one game apiece. In the WNBA, the back to back

2339
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 12: defending champs Las Vegas Aces took care of the Indiana

2340
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 12: Fever ninety nine to eighty. Fever were on the second

2341
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 12: night of a back to back. Asia Wilson had twenty

2342
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Speaker 12: nine points fifteen rebounds. Kelsey Plump twenty points and seven

2343
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 12: assists for the Aces. Caitlyn Clark eight point, seven assists

2344
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 12: and six turnovers. The Fever's now one and six on

2345
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 12: the year, Aces three and one. Aaron Judges home in

2346
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 12: in four straight games, and the Yankees beat the Padres yesterday.

2347
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 7: In San Diego four to one.

2348
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 12: Yankees looked to sweep that three game series later today

2349
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 12: at four to ten Eastern first pitch. Dodgers lost four straight,

2350
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 12: three to one to the Reds yesterday. Walker Buehler gave

2351
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 12: up all three and had six hits over five and

2352
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 12: two thirds innings pitch. The Royals continued their hot streak.

2353
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 12: They've won eight straight. They beat the Rage yesterday seven

2354
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 12: to four and eleven and the Indy five hundred schedule

2355
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,560
Speaker 12: for later today, but there are thunderstorms in the forecast.

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Speaker 7: Andy and Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Martin, thank you so much, thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining us today. It's been a pleasure. It

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Speaker 2: really is pleasures all yours now. Yeah, this is unbelieving,

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01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 2: it really is. Bucky brooks Andy Ferman right here, Fox

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01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on Fox Batradio, got the blame game coming

2362
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 2: up about six seven minutes from now. I'm looking at

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01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 2: Twitter right now, all right. I do not know Tony Calvin.

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01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know him from Adam. I couldn't pick him

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01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 2: up in the lineup. I really couldn't. But he's on

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01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,719
Speaker 2: Twitter and he puts a picture it says Luca towards

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01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Gobert for the game winning three pointer, like he was

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01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 2: Andy Furman trying to play defense. This is the lack

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01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: of respect. I get How does he know how the

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01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 2: hell I play defense? Bucky Brooks tell me, all right,

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01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 2: I can handle it. I'm not Kevin Durant. You know,

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01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm not looking at social media. I'm not starting a fight.

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01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 2: I can handle it. Okay, that's what social media is

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01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: all about. But why would he put I mean, is

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01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 2: there any reason why he put that up there? Could

2376
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 2: you help me out here? I mean, Luca did torch

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01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: goobia for that three pointer when Dallas is playing Minnesota

2378
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: the other night? But was it like Andy Furman trying

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01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 2: to play defense? I don't know. I don't know how

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01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: we say that. Tony Calvin, God bless you. I'd like

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01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 2: to play you one on one. Maybe I can play

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01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 2: a little defense on you. But I don't know why.

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01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Why would you do that

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01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 2: to me? I just I can handle it. I got

2385
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 2: big shoulders. We move on, all right, blame game coming up?

2386
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, now, let's talk about football, in particular

2387
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 2: the Arena Football League. This league, Bucky Brooks, has already

2388
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: lost five of its sixteen teams one month after the season.

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01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:38,480
Speaker 2: Players have not been paid, players have been faced with hardships,

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01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 2: just as getting kicked out of hotel rooms and paying

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01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 2: for their own physicals, and it's unbelievable. And I would

2392
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 2: ask the question, if the game of football is so popular,

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01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: why can't this league make it? You know, maybe because

2394
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: less is more with the NFL and year round football.

2395
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: It's not gonna cut. It's just we want football at

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01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 2: a certain time of the year. And that because these

2397
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 2: these satellite leagues have not been very successful as far

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01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 2: as attendance, as far as TV ratings, whatever it may be.

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01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 2: And now this team, this league, this arena league, they've

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01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 2: lost five or sixteen teams one month after the season.

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01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, the sport's supposed to

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01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 2: be like the most popular sport in our country, college football,

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01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,759
Speaker 2: NFL A and one A that's what it's all about.

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01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 2: And the Arena Football leaguees dying. What's the deal?

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01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's Look, man, it's just just an interesting

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 5: time you know that we're in where you know, we

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01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 5: just kind of think more and more and more and

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01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 5: more and more. We just can't figure it, figure it

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01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 5: all out. Like I love like some of the alternatives

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 5: that they're having for players. But look, I mean I

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01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 5: don't know where it is because we can't support all

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01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 5: of it. You talked about like the Real League dying

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01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 5: other stuff. You know, we're just in a tricky spot

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01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 5: because public assumption is still at an all time high.

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01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 5: But I just don't know how we satisfy that because

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01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 5: it's just a different time.

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01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 2: And I think one of the problems is that I

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01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: think the sports seasons that overlap it's not healthy. I

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01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 2: just don't think it is. I think eventually it's kind

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: of like an animal eating it's young. You just can't

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01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 2: have it. And there are so many seasons, there are

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01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 2: so many teams, there are so many leagues. I mean,

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01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 2: just the other day they said the WNBA is going

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01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: to expand the Golden State. Now they're going to expand

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01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,560
Speaker 2: to Toronto. God bless them. I think it's great. And

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01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 2: in the NFL is going to do eighteen games. I've

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01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 2: always believed that less is more. Next year, the NFL

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01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 2: is going to play on every day of the week

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01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 2: except Wednesday. I believe every day of the week we'll

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01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 2: have a game in the NFL except on a Wednesday.

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01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's good bit or and different.

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01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 2: I mean, we consume it, we love it, but there's

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01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: going to be a breaking point. Eventually there really will be.

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01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 2: And even with Major League Baseball the playoffs, some people

2435
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: can't even figure out how the playoffs work. Just too

2436
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: many teams is confusing, you know, and maybe just just

2437
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: a sign of the times, you know. And NBA playoffs

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01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 2: they end in June. Now they're gonna end like the

2439
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 2: middle of June. I remember back in the day, and

2440
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 2: I hate to throw that back in the day garbage,

2441
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 2: but it was successful April thirty, if everything ended by

2442
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 2: April thirty, if the NBA champion was crowned. Really, that's

2443
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 2: the way it was. And then all of a sudden,

2444
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 2: you put your heart and soul into baseball. Can't do

2445
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 2: it now, you know. I would venture to guess tonight,

2446
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:32,560
Speaker 2: when Dallas plays Minnesota in the NBA Game three, the

2447
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 2: TV ratings for that will be better than Major League

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01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 2: Baseball on Sunday night. It means more. That game means

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01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 2: more than a than a game in the middle of May,

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01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 2: end of May in Major League Baseball. That's just the

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01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 2: way it is. It's a question of what is more

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01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: important at that time, not what sport is better or

2453
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 2: what sport's more exciting, What game is more important, is

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01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: not correct. What game is more important at that point

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01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 2: in time than what is a better sport? It's all about.

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01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, But first, I would say all leagues aren't made equally,

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01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 5: and I would say the National Football League, of any

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01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,560
Speaker 5: of them, can extend their season and not have the

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01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 5: repercussions because it's proven. It's the number one sport, it's

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01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 5: the most watched sport. When you look at the ratings,

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01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 5: eight out of ten, nine out of ten will be

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01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 5: live football games. It's okay for the NFL to expand

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 5: and continue to stretch their thing because there's never been

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01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 5: a decline. We haven't seen fans run away from the game.

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01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 5: There's an insatiable appetite to watch pro sports. For some

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01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 5: of the other leagues, they need to consider what they

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01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 5: want to do with football being kind of like a

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01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 5: year round deal. How do you work around at how

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01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 5: do you navigate it, How do you put your product

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01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 5: in a situation where it can flourish Otherwise I mean

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01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,559
Speaker 5: it's just going to continue to be hard on them.

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01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. And on the other side of the coin, the

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01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: average viewership for the Indiana Fever of New York Liberty

2474
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 2: game last Sunday on ABC one point seventy one million,

2475
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 2: the most viewed WNBA game when the network ever right,

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01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 2: It's Amazing's what's happening right now. And for those who

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01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 2: are jealous or think it's, you know of something that

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01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't happen with the hype, the overhype, Caitlin Clark is

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01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: doing it. I mean maybe she's not doing it on

2480
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: the court yet. She may very well do it down

2481
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,600
Speaker 2: the road, but she has elevated this game where this

2482
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 2: interest in it now. You know, you can't take that

2483
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 2: away from her. How why? I don't know. I really

2484
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 2: can't figure it out. Maybe because she's from the Midwest,

2485
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 2: and I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.

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01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Maybe if she went to USC it wouldn't be the same.

2487
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: The fact that she's a Midwest person and came out

2488
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 2: of nowhere, I don't know. Iowa was a small place.

2489
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the reason. But maybe the style of play.

2490
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: But she has elevated that league to a different animal. Really,

2491
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 2: she really has. And I think those players in that

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01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: league should be thankful for her. They really should. That's

2493
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. I think she's done a great job

2494
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: giving interest to that league. People are cramming arenas to

2495
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: see her play and we're talking about it. When when

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01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: the hell did we ever talk about WNBA here? Think

2497
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 2: about that. There's the answer right there.

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01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, she talked about it.

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 5: Her popularity stems from the fact that she looks like

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01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 5: the all American girl. There's a huge part of the

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01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 5: country that can relate to her. We haven't necessarily seen

2502
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 5: her or a player like her dominate to that fashion,

2503
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 5: so it has been a little.

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01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 3: Bit of that.

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01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 5: But I would also say this because for all the

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01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 5: things that she has done, I also think like Angel

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01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 5: Reese and a couple other people who are also popular

2508
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 5: in those ranks have helped it. And so this draft

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01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 5: class has helped raise the popularity of the sport because

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 5: you look at the last three or four final fours,

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01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 5: the way the intendance was.

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01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 3: The way the ratings were.

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01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 5: These guys used college as a launching point to establish

2514
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 5: them and to continue to establish women's basketball, which has

2515
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 5: certainly helped to WNBA.

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01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.

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01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports, Sonniya, Fox Sports Ready. It's the

2518
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 2: only game we're attacking is required the playing game. It's

2519
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: freaking next all right, the playing game coming right up.

2520
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 2: It's uh Bucky brooks, Andy Ferman, Fox Sports SONNYA, Fox

2521
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio are live from the tire Rot dot Com Stadium.

2522
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: But before we get into the playing game, how about

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: eleven minutes for on the top of the hour. At

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01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 2: the top of the hour will be nine am Eastern time.

2525
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 2: The Swollen Dome himself, Mike Harmon and Ryan Hollis will

2526
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 2: be joining you right here on Fox Sports Radio. And

2527
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 2: we want to thank our tremendous staff. What a day

2528
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 2: it was today, Mark the main man, Ramsey running the controls,

2529
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 2: the Iman was back today, Iman Ian, Roddy who's here,

2530
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 2: and Martin Rice with all the sports updates. But now

2531
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 2: let's get into it. Let's play the playing game. You

2532
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: ruin me.

2533
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 8: It's all your fault, it's your faults in them, all

2534
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 8: your fault.

2535
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone, see the liar. That's why there's the

2536
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 2: blame game. The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah,

2537
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, let's get it going.

2538
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 4: I man, all right, good to be back back with

2539
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 4: the blame game. Let's jump right into it. So, despite

2540
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 4: the franchise's first berth in the Eastern Conference, semifinals in

2541
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 4: six seasons. The Cleveland Cavaliers fired coach JB. Bickerstaff the

2542
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 4: other day. He won ninety nine regular season games the

2543
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 4: past two seasons. Uh Andy, who do you blame?

2544
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: You know what, I blame weak management because Bickerstaff did

2545
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: a heck of a job building this team back up

2546
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 2: to where it was nothing. Okay, and maybe fans immediate

2547
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 2: put pressure on it. You gotta have backbone, You gotta

2548
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 2: grow with a guy. People with immediate success, overnight success,

2549
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen in the world of sports. JB. Bickerstaff

2550
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 2: was a hell of a coach. He'll be back and

2551
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: he'll have a lot of success somewhere else.

2552
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 5: Bucky, Yeah, I'm really disappointed because jam Bickerstaff did do

2553
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 5: a really good job. He dealt with a lot of injuries.

2554
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 5: In those things, a lot of times do you sit

2555
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 5: you come down to stars? Did Donovan Mitchell won't JB. Bickerstaff.

2556
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 5: If he did, then JB. Bickerstaff says, I'm just disappointed

2557
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 5: that Donovan Mitchell couldn't recognize how good of a coach

2558
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 5: he had in JB.

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01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 3: Bickerstaff.

2560
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 4: All right, this is an interesting one. There are reports

2561
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 4: out of Eagles OTAs that Kenny Pickett has actually looked

2562
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 4: better than Jalen Hurts to this point, Bucky, who do

2563
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 4: you blame?

2564
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 3: I blame Killing Moore because Keller Moore is coming with

2565
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 3: a new offense.

2566
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 5: That offense may be drastically different than the offense that

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01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 5: really fits Jalen Hurts. And if they don't tweak it,

2568
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 5: if they don't make it, where is Jalen Hurts friendly?

2569
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 3: He's going to.

2570
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 5: Struggle because he's not a classic dropback quarterback. Kenny Pickett

2571
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 5: is more in that mold. So I blame Killing Moore, Andy.

2572
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 3: Everybody him.

2573
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I love Bucky's consensus on that

2574
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: because he's a football guy, But I blame the people

2575
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 2: who released Who's better? Okay, I think it's just a

2576
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: hype machine, just that people start talking about the quarterback competition.

2577
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 2: Really the quarter about controversy. That's a big deal. It

2578
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 2: really is quarterback controversy. So I don't particularly believe that

2579
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 2: that Kenny Pickett's better. But the point is that Bucky

2580
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: had the specifics and the logical reason I had, like

2581
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: the big time reason. That's the reason they just released it.

2582
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 4: And it's not true as recently as a week ago,

2583
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is being hailed as the next Michael Jordan.

2584
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 4: Well now he's down, oh two, So Andy, who do

2585
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 4: you blame?

2586
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 2: I blame the people that say he's Michael Jordan. I

2587
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 2: mean it's an embarrassment for a guy who's just starting

2588
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 2: his league career with not a lot of background, a

2589
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 2: lot of I guess results. Let's see the results. Okay.

2590
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to lead a team to

2591
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: a championship, But to compare it to Michael Jordans, that's weak.

2592
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 2: It really is, especially at this stage of his career.

2593
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 5: Bucky, Mommy, look, I think the comparison is a valid

2594
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 5: I think if you go back and look at.

2595
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 3: Jordan's history is very similar.

2596
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 5: I think all superstars have to go through the nemesis,

2597
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 5: they have to go through the tough part. Michael Jordan

2598
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 5: had to deal with the Detroit Pistons for years and years.

2599
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 5: Coming up short, Anthony is just finding out how tough

2600
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 5: it is to be a superstar, and a superstar that

2601
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 5: has to lead a championship team.

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02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 4: And Buck he's not selling his Anthony Edwards stock quite yet.

2603
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 4: Video made the rounds on social media a couple of

2604
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 4: weeks ago that saw Cowboys star Micah Parsons wrestling with

2605
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 4: a sumo wrestler and he was having quite a hard

2606
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 4: time moving the guy. So this made a lot of

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02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 4: people wonder why don't NFL teams try a sumo wrestler

2608
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 4: on the offensive line, Bucky, who do you blame?

2609
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 3: They don't they don't move.

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02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing to wrestle and kind of

2611
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 5: launch people, but they don't move so athletically. They just

2612
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 5: don't have enough athleticism to move around to be offensive lineman,

2613
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 5: even though they are are.

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02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 2: Strong, Andy, what do you think they don't have to move?

2615
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 2: They just standing there. I got a guy who has

2616
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 2: six hundred pounds in front of Joe Burrow. That's good

2617
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 2: enough for me. It's like a brick wall. You don't

2618
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 2: move a brick wall. You're not gonna move a sumo wrestler.

2619
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 2: I'll sign him. And there's gonna be a sumo wrestler

2620
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 2: that will be signed sooner than later that I promise you.

2621
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 4: The Formula one Monaco Grand Prix is today. It's a

2622
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 4: huge international sporting event pretty much everywhere but the US here,

2623
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 4: it's not that big of a deal.

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02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 2: Who do you blame? Andy, I blame the Kentucky derby

2625
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 2: in the Indy five hundred. That's the reason