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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: To have someone who would do anything for you. They'd

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Speaker 1: yeah for if not free, a really small sum. They'll

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Speaker 1: be brutally honest about how that outfit you're wearing really

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Someone needs yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, because they've got your back. And that's why our

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Speaker 1: listener thought she was doing the right thing when she

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Speaker 1: lied to her boss and to her entire company to

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Speaker 1: help her best friend get hired. Ah Well, now, in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: it may have been the worst decision that she has

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Speaker 1: ever made. You're gonna understand why she had no choice

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Speaker 1: but to reach out to us in your brand new

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Speaker 1: awkward Tuesday phone call. Next, It's awkward.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of sayings that warn people about how

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't date people that you work with. Office romances

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Speaker 1: never end well, sayings that Brooke has completely ignored over

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Speaker 1: the years, which is why all of our promo guys

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Speaker 1: at our radio station never seemed to last. Girls.

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Speaker 3: They should be, you know, available as well.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm getting I really don't think it's

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Speaker 1: We could tell.

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Speaker 5: I mean they do, as long as it's not like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am curious. Are there any warnings about don't

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, friends and business don't mix. That is literally the same.

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Speaker 1: Well, somebody didn't know about that, saying Brooke because one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, Kristen, emailed saying she got one of

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Speaker 1: her friends hired at her work. Now she has to

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Speaker 3: That's actually where I dow the line.

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Speaker 5: I don't do friends and business stuff, but it ruins

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: So, Kristen, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness. So wait, you're the one that got your

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Speaker 3: friend the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us the story.

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Speaker 7: So I have actually been at the same company for

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Speaker 7: seven years, and I mean it's the longest job I've

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Speaker 7: ever had. Things are going really well, like I love

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But then out of nowhere, I had an assistant quit

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Speaker 7: and she was great, very solid, independable. It was just

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Speaker 7: like a life choice change. Nothing, no super dramatic or anything.

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Speaker 3: The thought of one of my assistants quit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I hooked up with them first, then

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Speaker 1: that's okay, But just putting out of the blue.

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Speaker 5: No, it's one thing to get a friend a job

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Speaker 5: for like somebody else in the company, a different department.

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Speaker 5: Are you saying you got your friend an assistant job

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Speaker 7: Yes, this happens. And I'm like out to happy hour

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Speaker 7: with my.

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Speaker 2: Best friend Matt, and I tell him about.

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Speaker 7: It and like gets so enthusiastic, freaks out, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: No, No, that would be a terrible assistant because you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he just thinks like, oh my god, we'll

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I I wish you guys were at the happy

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Speaker 7: little bit. Oh No, that's okay. I was thinking the

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Speaker 1: But what happened.

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Speaker 7: Totally, totally, and so he's like really pleading for me

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Speaker 7: to give him a chance, so against my better judgment

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 6: I hired him?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, what's happened since you hired him?

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Speaker 7: Well, the most important thing was that when I hired him,

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Speaker 3: Friends, because that would look bad, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And like I don't need anyone to know that.

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Speaker 7: I don't need to bring my personal life in. But

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Speaker 7: the plan was that he could work there with me

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Speaker 3: So there was an end date to boss.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we could have a few fun months. But

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Speaker 3: How's the friendship? I bet it's great.

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Speaker 2: Yo, it is horrible.

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Speaker 3: No, who hates more?

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Speaker 7: I mean it's not that we hate each other, it's

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Speaker 7: Like he's gotten to the pattern of skipping meetings or

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Speaker 7: like not huge things that would get fired, but just

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Speaker 6: And it's just.

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Speaker 7: It's not great. And I have been hinting at him

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Speaker 7: and he just won't do it. He has like no initiative,

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Speaker 7: and I'm like, did I make this too comfortable?

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Speaker 5: Well, he's not getting comfortable reprimanded for anything.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a sweet job. He's taking a long lunch, skipping.

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Speaker 1: What he wants to Like, yeah, you mean at this point,

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, it's striving crazy. I can't work with

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Speaker 7: he still is my best friend, but with also not

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you're going to talk to him as his

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Speaker 7: I think so. I think that's the idea, because I

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Speaker 1: Would he care if he got fired?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: Does he me?

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Speaker 3: So unemployment if you gives fired Okay, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Still, that's all of his benefits. I'm sure he loves

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Speaker 1: like collecting this paycheck of this nice, cushy job that

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Speaker 1: all that money. But how do you politely deliver that message?

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Speaker 1: That's on us? And I'm afraid of what Brooke is

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Speaker 5: I'm a little more direct than you are, That's what

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a way for Brooks to

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Speaker 5: And she's obviously been hinting for a long time, and

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Speaker 5: the hinting isn't working. Like it's better for him, it's

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Speaker 5: better for her, it's better for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what that advice looks like

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Speaker 1: coming from your brook Oh my god, I am dying

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Speaker 1: to hear what we have to say to help you

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Speaker 2: I just like.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, give your advice, and let you

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Speaker 1: make your awkward Tuesday phone call coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward. It's it's awkward Tuesday phone call. I may

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Speaker 1: not know much about my coworkers, but I know this.

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Speaker 1: Nothing makes Brooks smile like the idea of a woman

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Speaker 1: shaming her male counterpart telling him he's not doing good

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Speaker 3: I do not shame mail counterprids.

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Speaker 5: They just shame you that, yes, And I also spend

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Speaker 5: over a decade with you telling you how great you are.

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Speaker 1: Not to my face, I've never heard that you are

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Speaker 3: In my butt.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what made one of our listeners email

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Speaker 1: us for help. Our listener, Kristen, secretly got her friend

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Speaker 1: Matt hired to be her new assistant. Of course they

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Speaker 3: I don't think they say that that's the email problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: Jeff so Brook, here's your moment. Tell Kristen how you

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Speaker 5: I don't think you have to lay the hammer down

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Speaker 5: like this is your best friend. Like a best friend

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Speaker 5: at the end of this. So here, here's what you do.

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Speaker 5: You say to him, Matt, you deserve more money. Everybody

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure Matt wants more money. Am I right?

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Speaker 7: I would assume so everybody does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you're like, listen, I'm going to help you

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Speaker 5: get more money. We are going to find you a

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Speaker 3: We're going to get you what you deserve, because then

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Speaker 3: you're hyping him up and helping him move on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess just making money the focus of it.

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Speaker 7: Maybe we'll help his ears perk up a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually like him. You're looking out for his

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Speaker 1: of him. So, Jose, what's your advice. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: famous line that says absence makes the heart grow fonders.

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Speaker 1: So right now, you guys are just too close, Nae.

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Speaker 1: Tell him you miss missing him? Huh right, you miss

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Speaker 1: those times where you went we so without seeing him right.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's gonna make someone feel good.

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Speaker 1: You just don't appreciate him because he's there every day.

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Speaker 4: Help him get a new job, and then you guys

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we are around each other a lot, so maybe

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Speaker 1: A little laughter, little humor could help lighten the message

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Speaker 4: He's on the job right now, right, he's on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go. Good luck, we'll jump you feel

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hey, Matt, it's Kristen.

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Speaker 6: Oh hey girl, he disappeared on me earlier.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just had to step out for a second.

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Speaker 6: Right, So who's one are you calling you from?

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you that right now.

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Speaker 7: Oh, yes, I remember. No, I'm just I'm dealing with

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Speaker 6: Do you want to spill some tea on something in

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Speaker 2: Years, No, it's not about our co workers.

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Speaker 7: It's it's actually about you and me.

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Speaker 6: What what about you and me? Wait? Are you mad?

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Speaker 6: I missed the budget meeting yesterday. I told I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I forgot to tell you. I was just getting a haircut.

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Speaker 7: I uh, that's well. You know, I love you as

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Speaker 6: Don't like the tone of your voice. Right now.

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Speaker 7: I just want to remind you, like rewind three years

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Speaker 6: Was like decades ago. We were literally.

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Speaker 7: Babies, it was three years ago. But look, this position

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Speaker 6: Wait? What are you? What are you saying?

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Speaker 7: I'm saying you need to go out there, you need

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just can't hide it anymore from you, I

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, does this have something to do with that?

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Speaker 6: Like did you find out? Or wait? What what are

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Speaker 4: Oh? I knew they knew you were going to probably

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Speaker 4: be jealous because that position makes more money than you,

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Speaker 4: and I just didn't know really how to go about you.

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Speaker 7: Know, Wait, what, Oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, congratulation, it's good for him?

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Speaker 6: Wait what's what is going on?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 3: I don't let me.

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Speaker 1: Jump in first. Here, Kristen, because I need to tell Matt. Hey, dude,

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to confuse. Am I getting a trip

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Speaker 3: I wished to get to do those things.

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Speaker 1: You really like to read into stuff deeply, don't you, Matt.

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Speaker 1: But this is just a radio show called Brooke and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the Morning, and this segment is called the

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's awkward. So so we could she know about

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Speaker 1: So especially not the way that Kristen was reacting. Kristen,

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm like fuming. I don't really understand. Did you

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 7: How long have you known? I'm just very confused right now.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I literally was having lunch with your boss a couple

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Speaker 7: Is maas in distant is going to be You're going

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Speaker 7: to be my superior. That's what's happening right now.

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Speaker 6: I mean, not like directly, but I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: Oh but that's what she says you wanted for him, right, Kristin,

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Speaker 7: Oh wait a minute, okay, yes, hang on, Wow, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Broke, what good advice?

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Speaker 3: Well? I mean, is this a job you wanted, Kristin?

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Speaker 3: Were you going after this position?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: I hadn't gone after because this hasn't even been listed yet.

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Speaker 7: This was not public information.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I am just like a bit confused now because I

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Speaker 6: You're I don't know, a bit jealous or something. Oh

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Speaker 6: I'm not.

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Speaker 7: I'm not jealous. Okay. So if you saw I knew

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Speaker 4: That You told me not to say anything, and he

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Speaker 6: Of thought that's what this call was about. When you

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Speaker 6: But what were you calling for?

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I was gonna say a lot

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Speaker 1: But I sounds like exactly what you wanted for your

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Speaker 1: friend is now happening for your friend in an even

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kristen, And if we're being completely honest here,

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I wasn't really growing anymore with

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Speaker 1: Well that's not Apparently your hair was growing enough where

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Speaker 1: that you're supposed to be at, but still you had

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Speaker 4: I mean, I only missed like a handful of meetings

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Speaker 6: And they weren't really important.

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Speaker 3: So what meeting is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, Kristin, I'm taking your silence as

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Speaker 1: you're totally thrilled with how this call is going and it's.

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Speaker 7: Just insane crazy, and I think I'm just gonna have

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Speaker 7: to take the day. I love you all you've been

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Speaker 7: to help, but I'm I'm shaking over here.

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Speaker 6: Girl. You need to take the day. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: I love that, well drinks on that this time since

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Speaker 3: you can afford it, and.

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderfu for you.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even be here right now. So you helped

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Speaker 6: me into this point in my life too. So why

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Speaker 2: Uh huh?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it sounds like you're now your friendship

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Speaker 1: is going to be back in a better place now

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Speaker 7: You guys are funny. You guys are really fun.

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Speaker 3: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You know, Matt definitely seemed confused there, probably because he

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Speaker 5: And I'm really hoping that she's upset at her boss

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Speaker 3: For her best friend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was her assistant for three whole years,

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Speaker 5: Yes, it'll be good for her career, butod for their

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Speaker 3: I'll be great for Matt's.

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Speaker 3: It's a power move to skip stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So just remember, if you want to get an awkward

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