WEBVTT - Co-Parenting Forever feat. Jess Hilarious 

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<v Speaker 1>Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife,

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<v Speaker 1>and she couldn't. She cleaned and cared for her children

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<v Speaker 1>and the man of the house, and of course she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a good woman who always made good choices.

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<v Speaker 2>That we're good mom's bad choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's single mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all

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<v Speaker 3>their bad choices and.

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<v Speaker 2>Found out they were so bad after all.

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<v Speaker 3>We're experts, overshares and your new besties.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit back and enjoy the ride. I can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Meila, and it's hop day, bitches. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wednesday if you're listening to this, the day that

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<v Speaker 2>episode comes out.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not listening to the day it comes out,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck are you doing on Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 2>And they miss us? How are you? I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just, you know, living my best hoocy housewife life

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<v Speaker 3>at home. Yesterday I took Orlando to my classy gym

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<v Speaker 3>because you've been asking him to go for me for

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<v Speaker 3>a year, to show me the machines. He hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 3>and we went to a cycle class and it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's my gym's and we hoo. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>super gay and it was a guy like just like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in Orlando where and they're like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I almost died.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I was like, this is the most marriage

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<v Speaker 3>shit I've ever done, going to a fucking cycle class

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<v Speaker 3>and weo with my man. But it was fun. So

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<v Speaker 3>just just been chilling. And honestly, I've been going on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. He's been working late and then I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you sleeping, I'm gonna go out, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>is he gonna leave me? Because I'm like, I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>outside because he's going to work, But he seems fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Love that for you guys. It's been good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I know you didn't ask, but I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was thinking I'm great. I'm great. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>We are about to leave to Jamaica, so I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I real's been on spring break, so that's been horrible,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, we're surviving.

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<v Speaker 2>Not horrible, it is, but I am excited because we

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<v Speaker 2>have a special guest today. We have a very special guest,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited because.

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<v Speaker 4>We've like almost met her one time, but then we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get to meet her, and she has been someone

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<v Speaker 4>that y'all have asked to have on the show for

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<v Speaker 4>a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>And so guess what the bitch is here, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so happy to welcome to the show a stand

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<v Speaker 4>up comedian, author, bad motherfucker, good mom, just hilarious hey,

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<v Speaker 4>and co host of the Breakfast Club of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but yes, I'm all the other things too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the mom, the bad bitch, all that souff.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank y'all, Hey girl, how a y'all doing. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>I finally made it here. I know, welcome to la.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you like it here?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Not really, but you know, I used to live here.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's anything that I didn't take advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>when I was living here before, it's healthy eating because

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<v Speaker 2>when I lived here, like I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was what made six years ago, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find a turkey wing, the first yams, colar greens, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, like mac and cheese, but I kept running

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<v Speaker 2>into like shit called hummus and not shit called hommy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>fresh fresh squeeze juices and shit, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>die for it now like I needed. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>that I would appreciate it now in my thirties because

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<v Speaker 2>maybe everything start hitting you crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your your digestive system changes.

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<v Speaker 2>In your thirties. Like yeah, I'm like, oh, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can't just see whatever I want exactly, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>smoke out of whatever you want either, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>smoking backwoods for a long time and then at thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one started messing with my skin. So then I saw

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<v Speaker 2>my dermatologists and she was like, I'm not gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't smoke weed, just smoke cleaner. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so wait, what was that. It's been white paper, So so.

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<v Speaker 3>You're telling me the backwards that I've been smoking every episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It don't mess with your it, don't mess with your skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Obvious closer. Oh damn, it's not bad. To hell, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not bad. Yeah, but that's what it is. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the dairy for me because I didn't realize how thick

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<v Speaker 2>and just how disgusting dairy will have you feeling like, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the extra thick spit, and then you know

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<v Speaker 2>it comes through your skin. The white heads, the black

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<v Speaker 2>kids all at No, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically you're telling me I need to just lay

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<v Speaker 3>back on the backwards and.

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<v Speaker 2>The raw papers. Have you got any whiskers in your thirties?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you struggle with this? No, I've had a mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got in your thirties. I'm thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not even two feet in yet, so I'm full

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<v Speaker 3>feet in. I feel like thirty five is all all

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<v Speaker 3>two feet in? Yeah, yeah, I'm thirty seven. I barely

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<v Speaker 3>want to have you thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not all. But you look younger than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be thirty eight in June.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing. Oh you're an aquarius, right, I am

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<v Speaker 2>February thirteen. What's your husband's son? He is a cancer?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, my husband's my husband's aquarius and I'm a cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I met a female cancer. Literally No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just know all the guys and my husband were

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<v Speaker 2>better than absolutely, I hope. So fifty said like, you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't nothing like a hurt cancer man. Oh god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not good. It's not good. Ship on their shoulder and

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<v Speaker 2>never come back.

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<v Speaker 3>They get they never come back. They're so sensitive. It

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<v Speaker 3>hurts so bad that they turned into fifty cent.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it's another documentary being made right now

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<v Speaker 2>by somebody that once hurt him. And there it is,

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<v Speaker 2>which it's the what's the one is it? T? I

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<v Speaker 2>T and tiny surviving and tiny and the part is

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<v Speaker 2>the other one was good? I know it was. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was top not you. I'm not gonna hold you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well done. Oh my god, the perspective, the narration,

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<v Speaker 2>just everything. I cried a little bit and I got

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and he just like that was terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when he even when he got the jury,

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<v Speaker 3>the jury people to come on, you can tell they

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of like starstruck.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one, yeah, good angle because the onel pissed

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<v Speaker 2>me off though she Yeah, I know everybody gonna know

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<v Speaker 2>the juror I'm talking about this black web talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About he did that thing that he did up making

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<v Speaker 3>the band.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, bitch, like, bye, you don't even need to

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<v Speaker 2>be in there. What's wrong with you? But I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna lie though the guy that was left behind and

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<v Speaker 2>all that your ass ain't saying up and all this

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn time, Like I know, I ain't cry for his

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<v Speaker 2>ass and I ain't cry for he's saying something gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have a platform, he was in a homeless shelter.

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<v Speaker 2>Jess did he probably threaten him? You know, he don't play.

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<v Speaker 2>He kills people. Yeah, you're careful villain. That's what they said.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right now, that's what they said. I know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. It was just insane how we had

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<v Speaker 2>all that close up footage. I said, oh, how how

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<v Speaker 2>did this happen? He had the audacity to be filming himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is what narciss just do. They fucked themselves

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<v Speaker 2>because they're stupid, Like why would you film all of

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<v Speaker 2>this leading up to your trial? So cocky talking to

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<v Speaker 2>your lawyer like nah, we everything. It's like yo, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. And then the park where he had to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and you know, make good with the people

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<v Speaker 2>and then got in the wash. Yeah I mean people peasantry, sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what it save, It gave such This

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<v Speaker 3>is not this episode is about, but very important.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so interesting to just see like the dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>of a weak ass nigga who doesn't feel adequate, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's pour it pours out of his pores, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It's like you you want to dance

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<v Speaker 3>a lot and ship. You want to be cool like

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<v Speaker 3>the cool niggas, but you ain't cool. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>was really killing me. When they had him in the studio,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like him like the writers are like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>kept up.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to redo the track because he wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Again because it wasn't good, and he was in there like.

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<v Speaker 2>But the guy is a kit high a goddamn. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like if he don't see his mother fucking somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I know, that's not what this episode. That

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<v Speaker 2>was really good because I never to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>so thank you. That wasn't that was good? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was good. You didn't get your heart together though, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh baby, I don't know. He seems happy be as

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<v Speaker 2>hell over there in jail. I don't think, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty fifty finds so much comfort and pleasure and embarrassing

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<v Speaker 2>his abusers basically.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you think they're the car is gonna get him?

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<v Speaker 3>Because remember he ended jaw Roll when jaw Roll was

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<v Speaker 3>at his peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that. I know, but I loved jaw so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just killed him.

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<v Speaker 3>He killed the whole murder inc in like one album.

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<v Speaker 3>Is someone going to kill him, just like Kendrick killed Drake.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we gonna it's just like a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Can fifty be killed? You already got

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<v Speaker 2>shot eleven times? I mean everyone could be killed. Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you got shot eleven times, Like the number go up?

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is I thought, I don't know, you know you

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<v Speaker 4>got the bullets tatted on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Proof anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Yes, it's no better time for you to come

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<v Speaker 3>on good mom's bad choices than with the debut of

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<v Speaker 3>your new hip book Till Death Dewie Parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Ma'am.

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<v Speaker 3>You know at first what I saw, that's a I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna be like bashing your baby daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it seems you guys are friends. We are best

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<v Speaker 2>friends of you. Yeah, yeah, we understand this co parenting.

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<v Speaker 3>We were always friends though, But yeah, you never had

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<v Speaker 3>a bad season.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm. Yes, we had many bad seasons, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>see in chapter one three or it wasn't until like

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<v Speaker 2>five and six when we started like really really getting

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<v Speaker 2>well chapter five and six, which was also like the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth and sixth year of Ashton's life as well, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we started having real conversations and I started to see

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<v Speaker 2>Rome for like who he was and how his trauma

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot to do with how he was co

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<v Speaker 2>parent and how he looked at women and how he

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<v Speaker 2>even did everything. You know, he applied applied all of

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<v Speaker 2>that to his life, you know, an adult. In his

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<v Speaker 2>adult life, he went through. He went through a lot

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<v Speaker 2>as a child. So and once I started understanding him,

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<v Speaker 2>I started giving him grace, like, damn, you had a

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<v Speaker 2>traumatic childhood, Like it was crazy, it was great, then

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<v Speaker 2>it was horrible, and then it was gradually getting decent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then he met me. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. It was a lot, and and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>he became my best friend. Just like I went from

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<v Speaker 2>being the bitter baby mama to like his confidante, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he would call me, invent to me, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we found such a synergy between us, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, okay, all right, I got you, you

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<v Speaker 2>my roll dog, Like that's really that's really like one

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<v Speaker 2>of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>How would you say, because I you know, generally most

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<v Speaker 3>women were not going to describe themselves at any period

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<v Speaker 3>as a bitter baby mama. But at some point, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like we've all had some bitterness, what would you say

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<v Speaker 3>had brought you out of your bitter baby mama mode

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<v Speaker 3>into the more mature, evolved version that you were talking

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<v Speaker 3>to today.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. I tried to see. I thought I could do both.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I could be bitter and show up as

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<v Speaker 2>the best parent. I was like, Nah, I'm gonna show

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<v Speaker 2>you I hate you, right, and I'm gonna still be

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<v Speaker 2>the best mommy. It don't work out like that, because

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<v Speaker 2>the kid sees it all, you know, And my son

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<v Speaker 2>has always been very very smart, you know, not saying

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<v Speaker 2>it just because he's my son, but like he literally

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<v Speaker 2>is always caught on to like my little moods and

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<v Speaker 2>things I would say. And even if I've never bashed

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<v Speaker 2>his father to him, I never did that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even really respect when you know, women do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>because they gonna get old enough to see you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but I've never done that. But Rome I

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<v Speaker 2>had to, Like I said, I had to have those

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<v Speaker 2>hard conversations because once I got past receiving and accepting

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that, yo, we're not gonna be together, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what made me like dow my bitterness back. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna be together. I thought I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>spend the rest of my life with that nigga, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying at one point, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it don't work like that all the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was seventeen when I started doing Your Day's like

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<v Speaker 2>right after her, you know, I'm saying right after high school, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that a lot of people because we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this, like just in general. I think a part

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason we started Good Moms is because we

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<v Speaker 3>were both getting out of our baby daddy relationships around

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<v Speaker 3>the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>People, like sometimes of other racists don't understand, like when

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<v Speaker 3>you break up with your baby daddy, the disappointment that

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<v Speaker 3>it causes, because there's a deep stereotype against black women

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<v Speaker 3>being baby mamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, yes, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's not it's like I'm a stereotype, like

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's an acceptance that has to happen that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ruins and shatters our dreams and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna be a fucking baby mom over the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of my life. And it's like like a stereotype

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<v Speaker 3>that we didn't even we didn't even like, we didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even agree to.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very layered when that breakup happens. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>being out with my baby daddy, like at the museum

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<v Speaker 3>and I see like white families.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I didn't do that, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're pushing the shower mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad baby right, or because you know, even like in public,

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<v Speaker 3>people be like, oh is the dad around?

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<v Speaker 2>Like but first of all, are don't ask me that question?

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit? Yeah? Up in the streets?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like why, Like I feel like white people like

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<v Speaker 3>when they like, please don't white families.

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<v Speaker 2>Attention. This is a PSA announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, for the love of fucking God, do not see

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<v Speaker 3>a single black woman with a baby and then whisper

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<v Speaker 3>or even ask is.

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<v Speaker 2>The dad's around? The dad in life?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Kelly I didn't, I'm gonna start asking white witch,

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<v Speaker 3>is that where's his dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? He around?

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<v Speaker 4>You see my guy who goes around asking people at

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<v Speaker 4>the store like do you work here?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a part of our reverse Karen Era. We gotta

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<v Speaker 3>do more like like no, no, I have my best

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<v Speaker 3>friend's white. Don't worry, but how did you get your hair?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that people don't understand how lair it

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<v Speaker 3>is for black women, even black men. Sometimes I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they understand, like how triggering. It is when those

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<v Speaker 3>relationships end, especially probably how much black women stay in

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<v Speaker 3>relationships to try and make it work. Yes, and bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to go a long time ago exactly. And

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<v Speaker 3>that was that was my plight, Like, that was my experience.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why if you read.

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<v Speaker 2>The book in chapters two, three, four, five, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was really really trying because I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>just a baby mama. Like nobody signs up to meet someone,

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<v Speaker 2>fall in love with them, have a baby for nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>like then you break up. Nobody signs up for that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, well nowadays, well this polygamy and

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<v Speaker 2>shit going on right now people and all that, But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like like everybody wants loved and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a you meet somebody, you have a baby

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<v Speaker 2>with them, and then everything goes this shit and you're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I saw this before that. Nine months I

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<v Speaker 2>was carrying your child, not able to smoke, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be wanting this light up a blood every day dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with your ass, you know what I mean. So, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the main reason why I even wrote the book,

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<v Speaker 2>because there has been bad stigma put on black families.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and I'm a comedian, so I see it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. The number one black joke go to

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<v Speaker 2>is I bet your dad ain't around or where your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And as funny as it may be in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, this is somebody's trauma, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids can't help that their dad, you know, are not around.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you got some some deadbeat ass moms out

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<v Speaker 2>here too, dad ain't around, and you got the dads

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<v Speaker 2>that are taking care of their children. So it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a stigma that I want to break. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>help break, you know what I'm saying. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point of me writing till death do we parent?

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<v Speaker 3>And both your parents have been together for a long time, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, My parents actually just got divorced maybe three four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. They were together before I was born, and

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<v Speaker 2>they met in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>How has that affected you because you always hear about

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<v Speaker 3>like in high you know, my kids, when my parents

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<v Speaker 3>got divorced, I've never been the same, but like as

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<v Speaker 3>an adult, cause I'm sure probably for a long time

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<v Speaker 3>you expected that to be forever.

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<v Speaker 2>They were my example.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so how has that affected you seeing that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing their divorce as an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, growing up and my grown self having a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with my mother realizing that it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my father's infidelity. You know what I'm saying, because

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<v Speaker 2>my fuck you had no idea. No, well I had

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<v Speaker 2>idea because you know, I had a little sister, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, Okayn's daughter. Yeah, no, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>my mom's daughter, but she my mom treats her as

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<v Speaker 2>if she's her own. But yeah, I have She is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, she's eleven years younger than me, And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was a yeah, like that's my baby, like me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my twin. She looked just like me. But that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first and only time I had ever knew

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<v Speaker 2>of my dad doing anything outside of the marriage. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I grew up and I had this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with my mom, there were apparently there were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more times, and you know, I'm having this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with my dad like ye tell me, you was

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<v Speaker 2>all here getting to like that, like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? And that hurt me. It

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<v Speaker 2>really freaking hurt me, because I honestly didn't see my

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<v Speaker 2>parents separating or divorcing, and I didn't think that it

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<v Speaker 2>would affect me like it did. But I think I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of went back to that child that saw nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but her mom and her dad together. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>they displayed love, public display of affection everywhere in the church,

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<v Speaker 2>out shopping, they would take me and my brother places

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, and that that was what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I wanted, you know, and it ended.

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<v Speaker 2>I am happy that she is happy, she remarried.

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<v Speaker 3>I just rarely hear about the wife after a long

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<v Speaker 3>term relationship remarrying women be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, fuck all that. I'm good, I know, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. On the flip side, that's my dad, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I will say when you get married so young,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were married right out of high school, Dad

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<v Speaker 2>was going into the Marines, and like he never got

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<v Speaker 2>to live a bachelor life. She never got to live

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<v Speaker 2>a bachelor life. Now, she never wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom is of the church and the church. On

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<v Speaker 2>top of the church and the church, like my mom

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<v Speaker 2>has always been rooted in Christ in her faith, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how we were raised. However, my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>the more lenient parent, Like you know, he has a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with God. But it wasn't anything like my mom's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so he never got to live out that

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<v Speaker 2>that single bachelor life, you know. And when you get

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<v Speaker 2>married at such a young age, sometimes it's not your

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<v Speaker 2>forever to be married to the first person, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got and yeah you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like shout out to them for like protecting you

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<v Speaker 3>so much that you had no idea that there was

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<v Speaker 3>shit going on, because my parents were saying high school,

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<v Speaker 3>out of high school, and I knew since I was six, like, bitch, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't leave this nigga when you were six years.

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<v Speaker 3>Old, six, I told my mom you should probably lead,

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<v Speaker 3>like you should probably leave And granted she just get

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<v Speaker 3>the divorce now, but you know, thirty seven years later,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what did you see in your day?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I just saw I know. But he

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<v Speaker 3>was just like not come home. My mom be cursing

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<v Speaker 3>him out and fighting him. He's like even to this day,

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<v Speaker 3>I tell people like, if nigga answers the phone too low,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't like niggas whispering. I am a very

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm not jealous, but inheritedly. In my DNA even

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.280
<v Speaker 3>my male says, I'm like, O, look at her. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like like, oh, like just kidding, and like what the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck is wrong with me? Because my mom is always

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<v Speaker 3>like we'd be out at McDonald's and be like, oh, thanks, darling,

0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:36.200
<v Speaker 3>She's like hold your darling.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bitch, it's the bitch at the fucking drive sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Because my dad's like me, he's friendly, so like I

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 3>inherited a lot of like jealous territorial because my dad

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<v Speaker 3>was just didn't give a fuck, but my mom was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just I I saw it all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>heard it, saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigga wasn't coming home, so I mean, like inevitably, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even really want to be married. So it's interesting

0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.879
<v Speaker 3>that they were so good at just like she showed

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.880
<v Speaker 3>no signs that she was like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's crazy, Like no, not at all. When she

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.119
<v Speaker 2>called me one day, she was like, can you come

0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 2>over so we can talk? And I was like, okay,

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ah, what the hell out indeed, you know,

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>but I go and I go sit down with her

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, so me and your dad are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a divorce. And I was like okay, why And

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<v Speaker 2>then so she walks me through it, and I'm like, oh,

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy for you. Then, you know, because all

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.919
<v Speaker 2>my mom's life, right she has taken care of other people,

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and she definitely neglected herself in the process of doing that.

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.119
<v Speaker 2>She runs a childcare preschool, so she's taking care of

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.159
<v Speaker 2>other people's children, you know what I mean, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I didn't like kids in the beginning of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, damn, I grew up with people that

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<v Speaker 2>ain't even my siblings. But you know, that's her taking

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 2>care of children, and then you know, taking care of

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.440
<v Speaker 2>me and my brother of course, and then taking care

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>of other kids in the neighborhood, and then taking care

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.160
<v Speaker 2>of her mother, my grandmother, God rest her soul. She's

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.639
<v Speaker 2>a diabetic, she was blind, and you know, like taking

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 2>care of her mom, you know DIALYSI, is taking care

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of her sister, you know, then taking care of my father,

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 2>then take you know, just just take a care, just

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>taking care of care, you know, and taking care of

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.160
<v Speaker 2>people in the church. You know, they sometimes you want

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 2>to snap some of that next, but she, my mother,

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 2>kept that up. And so this right now, she's living

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<v Speaker 2>in her season of happiness that she is like now

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm living for me and I get to do it.

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 2>And at fifty eight, Yeah, she's like, no, she looks

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about she looks better than she's looked in

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 2>along because she yes, Like I'm like, damn, I you

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.840
<v Speaker 2>look good. You know, you look like me. I mean

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I look like you, but you look like you know

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And she's such a beautiful soul. Y.

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I love my mother, So I'm happy that she's happy. Yeah,

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 2>but it took me a lot to get over this divorce.

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, me and my dad are best friends. Yeah?

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Was he honest about it when you came to him.

0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.400
<v Speaker 2>He was because me and my dad, like I said,

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>we're like best friends and we've had our spats, like

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 2>we gotten through it and all of that. But that

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>was when he was still being profful because he felt

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like he felt the loane like after the divorce, he

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 2>felt very alone, like he felt like his kids had

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.239
<v Speaker 2>turned on him too. And then he felt like, all right,

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I know I lost you all mim. But I was

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.439
<v Speaker 2>always a damn good dad and he was. He's never

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 2>ever slighted us in any facet. So it's like, all right,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>And once I got over it. We had a great talk,

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 2>long talk, and he did apologize. He was like, yeah,

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I wasn't good. I wasn't good for her,

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.879
<v Speaker 2>you know. But he always took care of home and

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 2>he always always had her back, you know what I mean.

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And he just always was a great father. So that's

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>one thing that that's that says a lot because he

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>could have been an ancient father, ancient husband. Ain't shit everything,

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's nice that you get to get that healing.

0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.120
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's important, Imry, what is you and your

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 2>father relationship? Like now O're cool, We're good.

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean I I it was no really secret.

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 3>So I talked to my parents like I'm talking to

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 3>you yeah, like you know.

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Like and I'm telling like even when you try to.

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 3>Get over on me and today I'm like, well, of

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 3>course you're not.

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Fucking with you. Why would I wouldn't know why would

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't fuck with you? Yeah. I talked to him

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 2>very matter we talk to you about other women or

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 2>like your mom.

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 3>That no, I realized that is triggering for me, Like

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I think one time even they've been really not together,

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 3>but he'll he'll be here, stay with her like it's very.

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Back and forth.

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 3>But I think like a couple of times, like there's

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 3>someone around and no, no, okay, we don't do that

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 3>because you're not on it, Like you're not a stand

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 3>up nigga about it. You're not honest, you haven't gone

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 3>about it the right way. So for me, it still

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 3>feels very triggered.

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't. Don't bring any of the bridges around me.

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Now you've lost your ship. I have a question about

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the process of writing the book because we we're authors ourselves.

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I know, ma'am, we're author ourselves, and we know personally

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 4>how challenging it can be. So I'm wondering, like, what

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 4>was the hardest part about writing the book for you?

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant with my daughter, Marley, who is one

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 4>year old now, Like, yeah, I was pregnant, and I

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 4>rejected the idea of a co writer just because I

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 4>was like I was cocky with my show. I was like, nah,

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 4>this is my first clas got this, I'm smart, graduated

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 4>with a three point nine GPA. Stopped playing with me,

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, and I'm sitting there pregnant as how upset

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 4>mad having to relive everything.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And then I had pregnancy brain. You know, you got

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy brain. Be pregnant, you forget everything, And so I

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>have to call my son's father, has to call Jerome, like, yo,

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>do you remember what happened at his first birthday party?

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Because it's kind of foggy, and he like, are you

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna be mad when I remind you? But yeah, right,

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I was great, and you you know what I mean.

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>So like writing that and having to replace certain things

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>in my mind every day, it was very triggering. And

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>then I took some of it out on my husband,

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and my husband like that nigga, no more like what

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you made? Like what you know. But it was a

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of it was very challenging and it and it

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 2>was a longer process than I had than I thought

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I expected. How long did it take? Because two years?

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I know, right, like eight months? Okay, yeah yeah, But

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, y'all, how much research did y'all do for

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the Ethical Slut? Well? The book that's our book is

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>not the Ethical Sluck, okay, because I'm looking at them.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, that just stock out. I was like,

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>ok next, it's called a Good Mom's Guide to Making

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Bad Choices, Okay. And it was because that sounds like

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>something y'all were right, though, don't do that. Definitely your

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.120
<v Speaker 2>ad you should.

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 4>Read that book, Okay.

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 2>No, our ours memoirs as well, Like we had to.

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>It was triggering. We had to go back in time read.

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Or journals like unearthed things we thought we were over.

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 4>We visit them realize, oh bit you still got you

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 4>probably need to handle that and like and then also

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 4>like god, we could notes from our publisher like there's

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 4>not enough characters, we need five more pages.

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that was the biggest part because

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo, what's y'all talk about? The book need

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to be eighty thousand words or more. I'm like, how

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 2>many pages is that? Look my shit up right? I

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 2>sent my shit in. They came back like, it's only

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 2>sixteen thousand words. This is kind of like a brochure.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, don't blame man, that's just the book. But yeah,

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so then they you have to set up

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 2>the scene. You have to talk about everything around you

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 2>with the season that like what you the air you

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.239
<v Speaker 2>could taste on your tongue And I'm like, man, I

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 2>was mad a ship all the time. I wouldn't worry

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>about no a I could taste all my tongue and.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>The literary world as white as hell.

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you don't understand the word because you don't

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>get it. Yes, I'm not changing this world, Caitlyn, mean

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>something you don't have to say.

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 4>We get some notes, I'd be like, actually and cultural, yes,

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 4>she drove the boat. It's a Megan's Stallion reference.

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 2>And look and I got it. I got City girls

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 2>referencing there and they could not figure it out, so

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>they kept correcting it, like sending it back. I'm like, no,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>put it back like it was. This is this is

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a cultural difference, Like this is the difference between cultures.

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Y'all don't understand. Oh yeah, that was something I struggle

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>with as well. But I trying to stretch sixteen thousand

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 2>words into eighty that was hard. That was hard to do,

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>especially without a co writer. And how does Rome feel

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>about this? Like the book?

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm saying that you guys are good friends,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 4>but but him, I guess him having to be on display.

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely yeah, and he actually wants to write his own

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>till left we parents just from the father's back, which

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that is perfect, you know. Although he played a big

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>part in helping me write the book from my perspective,

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>he was actually, he's actually proud, he's excited about it.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna also have him join me on a

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of the press tours as well, especially when I

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 2>go and talk to the guys, just so he can provide,

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, information from his own point of view. I

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>don't want to speak for him too much, like especially

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 2>like with his traumas and things that he went through.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I want that to come straight from his mouth, and

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I don't, I just don't feel right

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>talking too much about are. We put it in a

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>book with his permission, of course, and he got very

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 2>emotional reading it. But he was so happy for me.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you should write your own. My husband

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 2>actually suggested that, like yo, he should write until death

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>do we Parent? It should be a series, he should

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>write the next book should be from his point of view.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, kind because I brought by daddy and I

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't ask for should have approval?

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>What? What? Where? Where are y'all right now? When y'all

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>call parents and relationship? Are you picking up BALLOONNA today? Yes?

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're cool, bitch, Okay, I don't.

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't talk about.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I got you okay, Okay, so there. Yeah. So when

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you say so, when you say it's cool, like is

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it really cool? I mean like we're not gonna go

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like probably have dinner.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>We could if my kid was there, but like, what

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 3>I need to do that I told her recently. I

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>actually I went to a uh something at the school

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and he came and he must have been behind me,

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 3>and he came up and kissed me on the sheet

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 3>like malfunctioning and then awfter, First of all, I'm such

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>a me and my kid are so close. I'm like, yeah,

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>did you notice daddy kissed me on the chi?

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>She was like yeah, I was like what that eleven?

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, She's like I was, I was like weird, right,

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>She's like so weird.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you don't do you don't we don't

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>do that. She's like, no, I didn't know what was

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>going on. So she's a little you. Yeah, I love that.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh yeah, I peed that. It was

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>just as weird to her. Yeah, and so that's unusual.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>That's not something that he usually does. Like so why

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the hell would he do that? Maybe because I got married.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know.

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to be cool, Like I don't know, he

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>got some money testing her, just testing Yeah, because then

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>he did it again. He said bye to me, but

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>like it was it was I was like, yeah, don't right, right, you.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Know, I believe that, like and you know, just speaking

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 4>to like this this idea of till death do we parents?

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>I feel like a lot of parents like when you

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 4>turn eighteen, it's done, We're done, and we all know

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 4>that's not really the truth, whether we like it or not.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>But like I do.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Believe that we like obviously we choose the men we

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 4>have children with, but there's something there, like when we

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 4>decide to create life with something, there is something beyond

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 4>our physical bodies that have connected us in a way

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 4>and in some instances, like you, you guys are able

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 4>to sort through the bullshit and get to the source

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>of why you guys came together. Where then other circumstances

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 4>and know, there's a lot of women listening that have

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 4>baby daddy dynamics, baby mama dynamics.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>We're like, fuck that, nig I'll never be his friend

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and all those things. But it's like.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 4>There is that truth because you can only meet people

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 4>where they're at. Yeah, but then there's also this truth

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 4>of like, but our souls have intertwined in this way

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 4>for a reason. Yes, and we've created life for a reason.

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>So if there's the opportunity, and I think that's why

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 4>I would say a lot of women can hold the

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 4>candle for their baby daddies of like, I'm available and

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 4>open potentially.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>To figuring out how we can at least be cool.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>But that's not always. That's not always the case, and

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that's not always what happens.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 4>So I'm curious, how did you, guys finally, Like, how

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 4>did you start to decenter your did this this dream

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 4>romance relationship and finally.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Be able to come to this place? Like was there

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>something specific that happened? Yeah, honestly, it was the conversation

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that he and I had. You know, Rome was very

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>he always one thing about it. He was always open

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and vulnerable with me, vulnerable enough to tell me about

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>things that happened in his childhood, right like him growing

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>up and everything like that. And I came from the

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>total opposite, you know. So, but one thing my mom

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>always taught was grace, Like you give people grace, you

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>meet them where they are, you know, I don't care

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>if it's your friends, you know, a boyfriend that you have,

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>somebody that you meet on your job in church, because

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what they've gone through, you don't know

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>what they're currently going through. Everybody copes with stress differently,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so once, like I said, it was

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a conversation when Ash was maybe about four or five,

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and I realized, Yeah, I'm not getting back with you.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>You know when the second baby mama, were you like,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>were you guys sliding back a little bit? Were you

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>getting dick appointments with the baby daddy? I did that

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>one time. I did that one time. It wasn't even

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours four that I got yes, and I

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 2>left somebody that I was happy with to give my

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>baby daddy a second chance, to give Rome a second chance.

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And not even twenty four hours later, I found out

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 2>he had another baby on the way. Oh, I didn't

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>tell you, did not tell me, did not tell me

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>because he thought that she had got rid of it. Man, Yeah,

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>because she did, because that's what she told him she

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>was gonna do and everything, and so he was like, okay, cool, whatever, whatever.

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>But when it came to to me like no, no, no,

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>she's pregnant, and she's pregnant with the little girl. I

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh wow, Damn. I was distraught. But the

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing is I wasn't shocked. Rome had been cheating

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>so much that I was like, you know what, whatever, congratulations.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I was happy for him because he wanted a girl

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>from the jump to replace his mother basically, you know, yeah,

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>he lost her at a very young age, so he

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>really wanted to be like, oh, this gotta be my mom,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, right, like talking to me, she gave me

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>my angel. Right. I was mad because I had left

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>somebody who I thought was a great man, not only

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>for me, but for my son too. And he was older.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>He was an older gentleman. I talk about it in

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the book as well. Yeah, he was an older gentleman child,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 2>and he was just doing all the right things. He

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 2>had made me forget about everything that I thought that

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I had wanted with Rome, and he made me even

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>look at him in a different way because I'm like, damn,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't even have kids, and you're so good with

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 2>my son, you know. And then it hit me that damn,

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't over my son's father. I was avoiding him

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's very easy to avoid somebody, cause if you

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>out of sight, out of mind, especially if you got

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 2>something else to do, like another guy. So I was like,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool. But when I saw him again and

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't avoid him, he asked me, can we have

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>a conversation. We met up and we talked and he

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>said everything that I wanted to hear, and I just didn't.

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, this is why I didn't want to

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>see you. And I had to go home and break

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>up with that guy and that nigga, Were you honest

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>with him? I was very honest. I didn't want to

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>cheat on him. He was such a good guy. I

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to cheat on him. And so I told him.

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to give my family another chance.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 2>And that nigga broke the broke the plate on the wall.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Are you crazy? And you sit here and tell me this,

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 2>that and the other, and you really you go sit

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 2>down to meet with him one time and now you're

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to you get all right? Cool? Got you? And

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>then when he said my mother told me this was

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>going to happen, what is what was that moment like

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>for you? I cried. I couldn't. I was speechless. I

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do anything because he was right. I didn't think

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>in my mind like I was going back, but I

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize how deep in I was still with Rome,

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 2>like my heart, like right right, I'm damn yep, And

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a lot. Ash was still young,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>and I thought I had gotten over Rome because I

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen him, I hadn't talked to him. I was

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 2>avoiding his calls. He was commenting under my pictures on Instagram,

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean not Instagram was my Space, then my Space

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and all that and Facebook, and damn was Facebook. God?

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and he he got me back, and then

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>he got me good and he had the baby. Uh.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Somebody actually it was a girl's cousin or commented under

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>something and she was like, I don't know why this

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 2>nigga playing house with his baby mama, Like he ain't

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>got my homegirl pregnant, or like he ain't got my

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>cousin pregnant. Okay, thanks. I woke up to that goddamn

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>comment after spending after spending a day with my son

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and his father, after leaving a nigga who really loved

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>me and my son, and so where he got you

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 2>have a look back. Did you ever speak again after

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that girl and he went to jail. I mean, he

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>might be home now, but he got shot in the ass.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh Jesus her. Yeah, it was a lot going on.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe it was a God protect God's protection. But see,

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>people be like that because of you. That's because you

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>let come on nothing with you stop that.

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 4>You always want to blame women for I know, I'm

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 4>like God, damn anybody that was his bad choice ship.

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Women be so in love with the idea of the family,

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 4>like more almost more in love with the idea than

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 4>the actual nigga.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Like you gotta look at the nigga for the nigga,

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes look at.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 3>The nigga for the nigga, not for the happy happy

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 3>ever ending, like you got to look for if the

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 3>nigga be cheating, he'd probably be cheating.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>That's just what it is.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, don't be hoping a baby or your dream fantasy

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 3>maturist nigga. It's probably not going to have exactly and

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 3>you don't know what he went through and why he's

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And that's why in the book, like I strongly urge

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 2>people yo get to know get to know a person.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I think when you start dating them up, like you

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>need to take them to the therapists, ask them have

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>they done therapy? Have you healed from you know, childhood

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>traumas and you know, like what what do you talk

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to your mom? Do you know your mom? Like you know,

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>how is your relationship with your father? Like all of that.

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 4>That's all very important, but a bit you're gonna do

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 4>what she want to do no matter what. She'd be like,

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 4>I can heal him.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I know that was me for a while.

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this episode is for you, and she thinks

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 3>you can heal a nigga, listen closely read the books, bitch.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>We all talk about every book. We're telling you that's

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>not for our health. You can't do it because then

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, you'd be trying to heal your damnself.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I have to hear yourself a nigga traumatized and fucked

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>up about it. It's too much, too much. So what

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 2>does till death do his parent mean to you? Then?

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean like you're in it for life?

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Because what you what you just said. There's also this

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>notion of oh, at the he turn eighteen, or at

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>she turned eighteen, or you know after they turn eighteen. No,

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 2>you still they't God, damn parent. Listen, I'm thirty four

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 2>years old. I still call my mother for advice when

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do, when I feel like

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a crisis. You know. Of course God is

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the first one I call on but my mom. And

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>if she can't help me, I'm calling my dad, you know.

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>And niggas got something to say. I'm calling my father.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling that's crazy. I got a whole husband,

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>will be ready to jump out day for me. I'm

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>calling my fack I call you know what? What about like?

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Because I think about so I had my dad. It's

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a lifesnse.

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 4>I think about my my, my parent's dynam who hated

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 4>each other most of my life and only recently, actually

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 4>had him on the podcast last month, and the bitches

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 4>were so mad at him, and.

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Rightfully so that you're dead. Oh yeah, why because he

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>was just very open about how much he hated my mom.

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 2>It was like I hated her mother. I hate her

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>with a burning passion. Jesus Christy. People really didn't like that.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 4>He said it three times, But funny enough, like my

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 4>mom and my dad have a great relationship now, and

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 4>it took thirty years, okay, okay, And that's what a

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 4>lot of women were mad at, Like while we got

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 4>away thirty years to get the apology, why we got

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 4>a da da da. But even still throughout those thirty

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 4>years of like them not getting along, I know that

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 4>in the state of an emergency, if I was fucking up,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 4>she gonna call that nigga and be like, Eric, guess

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 4>what Erica did you know? And it's because it really

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 4>is till death. Jo was part you know, like that

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 4>dynamic that you share whether or not you get along

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 4>or not. Usually you're if something's going on with your child,

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>you s are going to have to communicate in some capacity.

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 4>So the hope is that you can have a relationship.

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Like you have with Rome.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, But I'm just curious, like what advice you would

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 4>give to mothers right now that are like navigating through.

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Co parenting. I know it's because you know, one thing

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 2>that people don't think about is what it takes day

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>to day like behind closed doors for co parenting, Like

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's all cute right now. What I'm

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 2>saying that I know, y'all listener, is partly like Oh,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 2>that's cute. They're her and Rome are like brother and sister.

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 2>But no, I literally I'm ready to go to jail

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>over mine right now. You know that was once me.

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you is it takes communication. It's hard to

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>communicate with the person.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I know it's easier said than done, but I've gone

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>through it, so I definitely can give y'all advice just

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>based off my experience. Communication when you're in it is

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the hardest thing to do if you still got feelings, Like,

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>it's the hardest thing. Like there were times I didn't

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>want to see his face. It's times that it was

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>hard looking at my son because he looked just like

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>his father, you know what I mean. And this is

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 2>when Rome was hurting me, so I was doing anything

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to hurt him back. And you know, it's hard when

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you're in it, but that's because I still had feelings.

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Stop fucking on that, nigga. Step one, like seriously, like

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>that that is step one. Stop thinking about what could

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 2>be and learn to accept. Listen, what is it like?

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Learn to accept what is and then let it go.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And you're literally only letting go of the feelings that

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 2>you have. You know what I'm saying you letting go,

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>because that's where all the negativity come in. Because guys,

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 2>baby Daddy's nor they baby mama, they know and they

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 2>know how to get up nder your skin, but they

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>know how to get back in bed with us too,

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and they know the right things to say to make

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 2>us get back. And then you and your thinking like, hmm,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm only giving it to him because I want to you.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 2>But no, you're getting even more attached every time you

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>open up them legs.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Because it's Christmas and it's a holiday season and you

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 3>want to you want to have.

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Right. No, No, you gotta stop having sex, stop being intimate,

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>stop wishing, like, stop really hoping, because because they show

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you who they are tom and Tommy, and they show

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you who they are in a relationship, you know, and

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>then you know you got the dad's who parent depending

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, how they parent depends on how you fucking

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>with them. Like if you ain't sleeping with them, here

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna take care of that exactly. That's him expose himself exactly.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 2>And you gotta stop giving those those men chances in

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>your heart and stop giving them your temple like you

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>already had, you already split out a seed from them

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>people person disrespectful. Yeah, and they won't grow until later.

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone grows eventually, but yeap hopefully. But y'all ain't gotta

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>have the same timeline, you know, Like if you know

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 2>he gonna disappoint you don't, why would you lay back down?

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Like we got the power to do that. We got

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the power to be like, no, no, I'm not What

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:23.879
<v Speaker 2>do you mean if it ain't about the child, don't

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>call me. It's okay. And it's okay to be bitter too.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I want people to know that, Like it's all right

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to be bitter. That's in emotion, Like that is everything

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like that, that's that soup I'm telling you, Like, no,

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you mad because he didn't play with you. You keep

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>giving him your heart and every time like he giving

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you just a little bit to keep you holding on

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 2>because you're like, oh, he'll change. I'm telling you he'll change.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.479
<v Speaker 2>That's that was my dumb ass for a long time

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.479
<v Speaker 2>until I realized, nah, he won't. Because Rome was okay

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 2>as long as I was single, But when I got

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>with somebody else, it was like, nah, but he was.

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't trying to have me for him. He's just

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 2>all right, if you single over there playing with my son,

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, as long as you single, you straight. But

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the moment you get somebody else, now he feels threatened.

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>You know. That's another thing too, like who now they

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 2>try to make it about who you got my son around? Oh,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>they need to meet me before they like me. And

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Ron went through all of.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 1>That, and.

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had had that too. Really, yeah, I was like,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to meet her. I want to meet whoever

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you're around my child. I want to meet now. Now

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 2>why why was that? It's not that anymore? But it

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>was control number one? It was control.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 4>It was I'd already didn't I didn't trust you. It

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 4>was I want to know what the fuck you're doing? Yeah,

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 4>it was it was all of it, all of that.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 4>And then I remember I was actually the one that

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 4>got in a relationship first, and so I was like trying.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like like, okay, I guess I gotta live

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>by my rule. And I remember doing it.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 4>He showed up to the house and like my boyfriend

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 4>was inside. I was like, okay, I guess the moment

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 4>brought them out side, and.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember Freddy being like, why the fuck are we

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>doing this? And I was like this is dumb. Are

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>we doing this? This is the dumbest because you got head.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I hated it. This rule is done, We're done right right?

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure hands? That was it change. It was just like hey, man, hey, okay, bye,

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Now what it was a deep ship. It wasn't like, man,

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm really gonna protect your daughter, none of that ship.

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>It was just how you doing.

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 4>It was just like, yeah, it was like the making

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 4>of my own fucking awkward moment. I'm like, Okay, that

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 4>was dumb at hell.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Now did your daughter's father set that up? Did he

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 2>want that? Did he say, look I need to meet No,

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what he did? And it was me but he agreed

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to it. He agrees to it, so whatever.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 4>But I will say too, like, one of the things

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 4>that I've had to in my co parenting journey is

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 4>like to stop acting surprise when ship when he shows

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 4>what he does, when he does the same ship he

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 4>does every every every month time.

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 2>It took me years. I'm like, I'm just accepting it.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>It took me years to be like, oh he's oh,

0:45:59.080 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 2>he's canceling.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Now I gotta figure some shit out, okay, And I'm

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 4>telling you, like the when I started to release that

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I became so much happier because I was like it

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 4>was like I was waiting for him toe I'm like, oh, nigga,

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I know you're not gonna fucking show up for the

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.919
<v Speaker 4>thing or I'm going to I gotta go out of town.

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 4>You said you're gonna watch her, and then one day

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 4>before this is like it's always happens at this point.

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 4>So now it's like, no, I have a backup plan. Now,

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 4>I just prepare so that I don't get pissed off.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 4>And it's like our relationship has evolved a lot over

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 4>the over the years and it's not perfect.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:35.399
<v Speaker 2>But like we can laugh and I can be good

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and we can be cool.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 4>We took my daughter to Jamaica last year for her birthday,

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 4>just me and him and her, which I never thought.

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 2>It was good and we were there, bitch, no y'all left.

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Look at her. I was like, that is there. Okay,

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you're there for one day, but it was you know,

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 2>there was support close by. God, you got you got you.

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>But I was scared of that trip.

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 4>I was, but like I knew my daughter really wanted that,

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 4>like she wants us to like get along and be together.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 4>And she's ten, so that trip, I know she'll always

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 4>remember and it.

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Was cool for us.

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 4>We got to sit down and have a drink and

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 4>talk and shoot the ship about o shit and get

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 4>some apologies and just laugh about where we're at now.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 4>And so I think that trip kind of like helps

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 4>soften where like our relationship, And there's been moments like

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 4>that throughout our cool parenting journey. But it's possible because

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I look at my parents, who, like my dad said, hated, hated, hated.

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>And I even look at my.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 4>Situation because my baby daddy also had a baby while

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 4>I was planning my wedding, so very ghetto, right, which

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 4>is why we broke up.

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's there's a There can be a.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Lot of pain, a lot of distrust, and there's still

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity because you have decided to make life with

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 4>this person, to soften to whatever the circumstances are, release

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 4>then want and the dream of a relationship. Release control

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 4>because as women, that's a big part of it. It's

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 4>our control. You're not gonna have.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>My baby out here wearing this. He didn't brush the

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 2>teeth like all this shit was like you knew this

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>nigga was like this when you were loving him, Like

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the nigga barely brushed his teeth, then you think he

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna brush your son's teeth. Bit like just certain shit.

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 4>They just like you have to have it, like just

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 4>accept and it makes your life so much easier and

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 4>it helps the kids so much. So I was curious too,

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 4>like how has this impacted like your son Ashton and

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 4>like him seeing his parents get along? Like has he

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 4>ever known you guys not to get along? Or is

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 4>he only experienced you guys in this space.

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>No, he's experienced us not getting along. He's also experienced

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>his father with the other mothers of his children. How

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>many babies does we have now? As five kids? Damn

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 2>ye five? Okay, Kevin Hart? Sorry, but yeah he got

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 2>five kids? Five baby you know. And now Ashton is

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 2>he'll be fourteen, so he has little questions and you know,

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 2>but he loves me and his father's relationship, right, but

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 2>now he's a teenager, so he's paying closer attention to

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 2>his father. Man, you know, how to move because now

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>you know he got he got ashes and that where

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>he's like he has girlfriends and you know, not girlfriends,

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 2>but you know he is dating now you know or

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to call her at this age there,

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so he's like going back and forth

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>from his dad to my husband asking certain questions about

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>like you know, what what should I get her for balance?

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Hie.

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I ain't never really like he tried to

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 2>act like he's too cool for it, but like I

0:49:54.719 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 2>love the dynamic between my son, me, my husband and

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 2>his father's.

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 4>It's a village o thing. So they have a relationship, yeah,

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 4>they do. Your your husband and you and Rome.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, they they have relationship. They talk to

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>each other. They was there a journey there or was

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that just kind of like actually, it didn't really take

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>them long to gel to get along and to talk,

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to have the to build their own bond outside of me,

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 2>outside of Ashton. It didn't take long at first. And

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I talk about this in the book. My husband had

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to create boundaries, like he told, like, you know, he

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 2>had a conversation with me, like you need to create

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>a boundary between you and Rome, because y'all are almost

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 2>codependent on each other, like and it's a lot and

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 2>that's probably why you haven't been in a successful relationship yet.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>As bad as I wanted to be like boy with

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the five like who the he was right? He was

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking right, you know, And and what did that boundary

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 2>look like? My god, like, listen, this is this is crazy.

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Rong could call me at any time like one, two,

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning, Yo, she put me out

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 2>like or like I'm about to go over his bed

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 2>at the house or you know anything, and I'd be

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>right there listening, giving him advice and you know, there

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to hear him. I would be his aid, like help

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 2>him navigate through certain shit. And one day, one night,

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>me and my husband was laying in the bed, he

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 2>was my boyfriend at the time. We laying in the bed,

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and he like, you just answered the phone, and it's

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>not about ash it's not about it's not about Ashton.

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not about y'all son. It's like one o'clock in

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the morning.

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Nah.

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>You gotta yeah, you're gonna have to figure that out.

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 2>You gotta respect, Like I understand that y'all are not.

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 2>And he never thought that we were still intimate or

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 2>sneaking behind his back or anything like that, but he

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 2>just like, there still needs to be a boundary. Yeah,

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>any man would be fucking with that, you know what

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, And then I realized in every relationship until

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I met my husband, I would tell it niggas like, look,

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>my baby is like a package. It's like a package deal.

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.439
<v Speaker 2>He will come to me. He yup, he his ass

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 2>is going be there like this is my best friend.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>It's my guy, like it's my ridd or thought, it's

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 2>my dog. Like so if y'all ain't if you if

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you want a bit, just gonna before all, this ain't

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the relationship for you because yeah, that's that's that's my

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>guy right there, and that'll do a number on it. Well,

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>let me call my homegirl real quick, right, and didn't

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 2>have me.

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Exactly you know, so that yeah, my husband had to

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 4>really put that into perspective. What was that conversation like

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 4>with Rome, did you have that conversation or just kind

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 4>of naturally did its own thing.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>It was naturally happening already. But then me and Rome

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 2>did talk about it over the phone, and he was like, yo,

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I love him for you. I ain't ever loved nobody

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 2>for you after me, because you know, I was the

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 2>best thing that ever happened to you, because I gave

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you the best gift for your life. Talk about my son,

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 2>you know how didn't get on their house and something

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 2>like a ship. But you know, he he was like, yo,

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you my blessing, which I don't need. But

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I'm giving you my blessing. You're like,

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 2>if you want to marry him, go it, because like

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 2>he he checking off all the boxes for me like this,

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>ain't show a nigga. That's my nigga. You know what

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying seriously, And he was just so happy when

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and when I called him and told him that I

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was pregnant, he was like, yo, we did it. Like no,

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>we didn't. Not we we didn't. We're gonna say, you know,

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask. I'mna ask Chris. Chris is my husband's name.

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask Chris if I can be the godfather?

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Nah nah, Now that's what we're crossing a lot. And

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I already say we brothers sistem. People be looking at

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 2>me like I got three he's a nigga. No, you're

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.879
<v Speaker 2>not about to be the godfather of my new child

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and you my first baby fall but we're not doing it.

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 3>You're the dream though, Like ideally, back in my other delusion,

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought that I could eventually.

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Get to a point like this. Yeah, but you can now,

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I help.

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.360
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think my husband's ever gonna I mean

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.959
<v Speaker 3>they're cool. We see each other, parent teacher meetings and shit. Okay,

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 3>but my baby daddy hit me in my face. So

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 3>that's I'm thinking a different thing to like, oh no,

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 3>to just pill the swallow. He was also fucking evil.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like the bipolar. Like he loves me

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 3>so much that he hated my guts.

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so even for me.

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 3>And one time I said on an episode, you know

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I love my I love him, Yeah, because I did.

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Even at the end of our relationship, felt like he

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 3>was like my brother. Like I felt like I was

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 3>so close it was almost like sibling. Yeah, but I

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>grew up with him, you know, I don't have like

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 3>twenty five years.

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But oh wow. I had like tried to.

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Propose this to Orlando, like maybe one day we could

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 3>all just be He's like, absolutely not, are you He's

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 3>like no, that's and it's fine because I realized, like

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.479
<v Speaker 3>even in my heart, I would like to be cool,

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>but I also know he want he would want to

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>be with He would still be with me if I

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 3>allowed it, so there's no there's no way to like.

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 3>And also you'll you'll disrespect me at the drop of

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 3>time easily.

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's like some some niggas you got it just

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 3>keep where they're at at a distance, and it's like

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't have to be beef, but it doesn't have

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 3>to be.

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, anything more than just cordial.

0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 3>But I love that that you can have the everyone

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 3>can have a relationship and it's copesthetic and that he's

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 3>been able to heal and to have conversations about how

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.839
<v Speaker 3>his trauma has affected how he's treated you and your

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.799
<v Speaker 3>like the parenting because I always like any black man

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>that is doing the work and can verbalize it and

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 3>discuss the trauma and know that it's contributed to his

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:17.720
<v Speaker 3>bad behavior.

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I always give kudos and I always leave room for growth.

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 2>But something it's just going to be immature of their

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 2>whole life.

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So it's like it's nice that Chris has been

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.279
<v Speaker 3>able to give you boundaries but also be open enough

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.280
<v Speaker 3>to have a relationship with him and hell yeah, especially

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 3>for Ashton because then he gets the best of everybody.

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what he likes. He can call Chris

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 2>for certain things he can call his dad for certain things,

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and he can call me for certain things. And you know,

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>we have a even bigger village than that. You know,

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 2>my mother, which is Ashton's grandmother, and my father Ashton's grandfather,

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 2>my mother's new husband, which is you know, a bonus granddad.

0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:00.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, my husband's parents, and then Rome's dad.

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's it's a it's a village and it

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 2>took a while to get here, but it can happen,

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:09.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's very possible. Are you called that romas baby

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>mamas like hold on yeah, one yeah, yeah, one one

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>because it was too but didn't work out. But then

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, Chris is having kids. You yeah, he

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.279
<v Speaker 2>came with no kids. I was like, all right, come on,

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 2>put a baby up in here.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Chris is thirty one, y'all. Got I read your story

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 4>and how you met. You met at a bar. He's

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 4>a truck driver and he's had a stop or something period.

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's thirty two.

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, thirty two because we are two and a

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 4>half years apart. Yeah, yeah, I love that story because

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 4>that's like, what are the chances of the man you.

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Meeting your husband and wasn't even looking. I was not

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 2>looking because I had got out of relation. I had

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>just gotten out of relationship like a year before him,

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know what, I'm done, Like

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I might try girls, but I was like,

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't need pussies, so it ain't gonna work. So

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna spit me right back out anyway, Hello, princess,

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Apparently that's what I learned.

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>You not to get a study. Don't try to get

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 2>there pussy gate too. Some of them don't. Apparently some

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>of them stuffs do that. Some of them stuffs like

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 2>the cock opening them legs and be like yeah, like

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I sud pussies in my day. So you you've you've

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 2>explored on that side. Yeah.

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I was a former lesbian, not anymore, but I know

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 3>that's right. I lived in Atlanta. I was a lisbon

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 3>for a few times.

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Atlanta do it to you? Yeah, yeah, they'll.

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Say, you know, like niggas because they were kind of niggish,

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 3>all the girls down there in Atlanta with the kind

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>of like yeah said side. No, I'm straight, Yeah, but

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 3>damn I forgot the goddamn question, my bag.

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, no, no, I just said. I was just saying

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I loved your story with Chris. Oh yeah at the Yes,

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 2>he was a truck truck driver a rest stop, and

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 2>so it was a restaurant, right, I remember, I just

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 2>got it. It was February twenty, twenty twenty three. Oh yeah,

0:57:58.800 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 2>make some fucking noise.

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I just wrapped up a day of doing Breakfast Club

0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I was guest co hosting, and I took the train

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>down to Baltimore. I got some crabs because they're on Baltimore.

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 2>We love blue crabs, honey. So me, my sister and

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>one of my friends we went to Watershed. It's a

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 2>popular restaurant in downtown Baltimore, known for crabs and seafood

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And he just walked in to meet like

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 2>some of his cousins and you know his people's Now,

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.479
<v Speaker 2>he didn't notice me, but the people that he walked

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 2>up with, like his cousins and them, they noticed who

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I was. And I was happy, sho. I was passing

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>out edibles and I was buying the bar around and

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 2>he didn't drink or smoke, and so I was like,

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing at the bar if you ain't Because

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to buy him a shot and he

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, nah, I don't need a shot him good,

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and he said I don't drink. I said, so why

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 2>are you sitting at the bar if you don't drink.

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 2>He was like, I don't need to be drinking to

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>set at the bar. And I was like, m all

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 2>right at toude right. So he wasn't really giving me

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 2>what I was looking for, so I was still I

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 2>was still digging. I'm like, no, I want you. I'm

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you. And so you know how you take

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 2>shot at the shot. At the shot, I don't realize

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that you drunk. Shit to you stand up yoah, try

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>to go to the bathroom, and I literally almost hit

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 2>the floor. I asked my sister. I was like, bitch,

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 2>you want me to the bathroom. And so we walked

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 2>past him and I was like, I hope you're not

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 2>watching me walk away and I turned around and he wasn't,

0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 2>which was very fucked up, but whatever. I went to

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, I came out and he was about he

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 2>was paying the tab or whatever, and he was like,

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to know if I could take you out.

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to take you on A day was

0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:29.040
<v Speaker 2>a drunk one. I was like yeah with the fuck right,

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, you know, all ratshitty and all of that shit.

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 2>And so he took me out a week later and

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I never left him since you married last year, right,

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 2>We got married April seventeen, twenty twenty five. So we're

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 2>coming up on it, are Yeah, So I'm excited. I'm very,

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 2>very excited. I love him so much, Like I've never

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 2>met a more pure human being. Like he's so pure,

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>he's so like, he's a calm to my storm. Y'all know,

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll be extra shit, like he loves it all. He

1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 2>loves me, like he disarms me because I always had

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>my guard up, like all the time. After you've been

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship where you guys either take care of

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a nigga, beating a nigga up, or do something you know,

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:19.080
<v Speaker 2>or dale just with a bunch of shit, cheating, lying,

1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 2>just the manipulation all of that, and then you meet

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 2>like like a real genuine soul, like and he totally

1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 2>disarms me. Now we get into it because that nigga canceled,

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:35.880
<v Speaker 2>but like at the root of him, he's such a

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 2>calm person and he's very patient with me. He makes

1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>me laugh. He makes me smile. He brings out my femininity,

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I've always been in touch with my

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.080
<v Speaker 2>masculinity because you know what these niggas want, you know.

1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But he I really I like, I'm so soft with him.

1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 2>He makes me nervous a little bit. I'll be stuttering

1:00:57.000 --> 1:01:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a little bit like your voice, you know. So Yeah,

1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I love my husband. I love yes, yes, the total

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.000
<v Speaker 2>opposite of me. But he getting that he went the

1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.880
<v Speaker 2>ship too. He like, oh he loed the ghetto shit,

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.360
<v Speaker 2>he loved it, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,

1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that's my guy. I love a goosh. You know you

1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.280
<v Speaker 2>know where your men. I don't even nobody know. I

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:23.200
<v Speaker 2>get like it. Bit you got married right exactly give

1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and had another baby because who the fuck was doing

1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 2>that for anybody? How many years? A part of the

1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:31.600
<v Speaker 2>kids that's going to be I don't know how I start.

1:01:31.960 --> 1:01:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why I start over? Like you know, but

1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 2>is that okay? Do you feel okay? Are you having that?

1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:38.080
<v Speaker 5>I know? Right?

1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:40.240
<v Speaker 2>It took me a while to bounce back when I

1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:42.920
<v Speaker 2>was see I was pregnant at nineteen with my son,

1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and when I had him at twenty, I bounced back

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:49.400
<v Speaker 2>four or five weeks, I was, you know, back at

1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:52.680
<v Speaker 2>work and all of that shit. But having a baby

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:55.760
<v Speaker 2>in your thirties is different, and I went through it,

1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:57.240
<v Speaker 2>so I can speak to it. Oh my god, the

1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy is different, you know, and shout out to them

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 2>who had a completely easy pregnancy in their thirties. But

1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:06.360
<v Speaker 2>it showed me that I really wasn't taking care of

1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:10.720
<v Speaker 2>myself in the twenties, like girl, all a drinking and

1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 2>drugging and all of that. And I ain't never shooting

1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:14.760
<v Speaker 2>no dope or do no cocaine, I think. But I'm

1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:16.840
<v Speaker 2>just saying I never did no. Yeah, I ain't never

1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:19.120
<v Speaker 2>did nothing. Crazy because once they when you say drinking

1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and drugging, people's minds go crazy.

1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Me my white bitches be drugging, you know what I'm

1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:26.680
<v Speaker 3>saying all that all the internet, they're valla, everybody's fine.

1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Hot up. But you know, I and I realized, I'm like, damn,

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:34.560
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm not. I'm not a spring chicken no more.

1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a chicken now. Like it's you know, But

1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I had my daughter, no epidoro natural slid her ass

1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.560
<v Speaker 2>out like I was happy. I wasn't happy to do it.

1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:48.640
<v Speaker 2>In the moment, but I was, I was. I was happy,

1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and her father delivered her. My husband delivered his daughter,

1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.640
<v Speaker 2>so that was just you know, that was such a

1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:59.160
<v Speaker 2>sacred moment, you know. And I don't think like my

1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.320
<v Speaker 2>husband made my pres to see easier, you know, because

1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:04.120
<v Speaker 2>it was hard. I was sick all the time, and

1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:06.720
<v Speaker 2>then still working and then even getting back to work,

1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like he made it so much easier because my first

1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:13.720
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy was not fun. Do you want more kids? Do

1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.360
<v Speaker 2>you want more kids? Yes? I at most to more

1:03:16.480 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 2>at least one. Okay, yeah, I do. I want I've

1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:22.160
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to have a lot of children, you know,

1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and a lot like four or five. I always and

1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember always wanting all boys because I was a

1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:32.640
<v Speaker 2>tom girl my whole life sports. I always dressed dressed like,

1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, real swaggy. That's why everybody used to think

1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I was a dyke. Oh my god, uh lesbian? Not yes, yes,

1:03:41.280 --> 1:03:44.520
<v Speaker 2>everybody used to say that. And I'm like, I just

1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I grew up around all boys. I mean, I had homegirls,

1:03:47.160 --> 1:03:48.520
<v Speaker 2>but for the most part, I grew up around my

1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>brother and all his friends. So that's how I even

1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:53.480
<v Speaker 2>became a comedian, just sitting around watching them roast me

1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and every every day. You know what I mean, I'm like,

1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:58.040
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool, get your jokes up. You know I

1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:00.480
<v Speaker 2>had to get my jokes up, you know. But yeah, yeah,

1:04:00.840 --> 1:04:04.720
<v Speaker 2>thirteen year gap have I know you gotta get out

1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of here soon. I have a lot of you gotta

1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:09.120
<v Speaker 2>come back. I know I'm gonna come back. Smoke on here,

1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:11.240
<v Speaker 2>we gotta come back. I'm coming back, come back, and

1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:13.480
<v Speaker 2>just like all of our ship. And then I ain't

1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:15.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna come back all like suited and boot it up.

1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to be I'm the book, all right, but

1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:22.000
<v Speaker 2>next time I'm gonna be all like cute and dressed

1:04:22.040 --> 1:04:26.280
<v Speaker 2>down like y'all. Thank you, thank you. Have you made

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<v Speaker 2>any bad choices this week? Oh my god? Bad mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Not a bad mom, but a bad mom. I'm so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Any bad choices. No, I ain't go live this week.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be good. It's always a bad choice when

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<v Speaker 2>I go live. I'm talking about the breakfast club beat

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<v Speaker 2>Charlomagne be like you go live, you always gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>some ship. Don't say ship. Don't why I'll be getting

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble and I don't even know why I'm in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll be looking at you like I har

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean I've seen a lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>you said, which I'm gonna say I agree with some

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But that, like, you know, the cancel culture is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh girl, I think I was in that first batch

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<v Speaker 2>of people to ever get can if you're not if

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't been canceled, you ain't doing You're safe. If

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<v Speaker 2>you ever been canceled, you're a safe bitch. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>you go, exactly, speak always, unapologetically. Yes, that is literally me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But a bad choice I made this week,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's so crazy. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>make bad choices every day, but but they're like fun,

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<v Speaker 2>like that doesn't mean bad whatever, because the good mom's

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<v Speaker 2>bad choices. I mean, we spoke weed. Some people will

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<v Speaker 2>say that's a bad choice. I say, that's a great choice.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So if you got a home, if you

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<v Speaker 2>got a home girl, right, and you know, was she

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<v Speaker 2>cheating on her man? And he's a really really good man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about a good man's man. I ain't talking

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<v Speaker 2>about like I'm talking this bitch that been with niggas

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<v Speaker 2>who hit on her and all of that, just like

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<v Speaker 2>beat on her, just all that shit, and she finally

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<v Speaker 2>get a good man, she's fucking on him with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>I hooked up with. Ain't that some bullshit? I hooked

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<v Speaker 2>up a long time ago. She's gonna spend a block

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<v Speaker 2>on a nigga that I hooked up with like four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. She's cheating on her current good man with

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<v Speaker 2>a nigga that you booked her up with four years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an important conversation because, dude, okay, because I heard

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<v Speaker 3>some niggas talking about this, Okay. It was like something

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<v Speaker 3>on the internet saying, I don't know, bro, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with this because you cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>On your wife. And I was like, honestly to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm first of.

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<v Speaker 3>All, I'm gonna be ride her dive for my bitch

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<v Speaker 3>because cheating, and I'm supporting it because I want you

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<v Speaker 3>leave that nigga anyway. But two but too, if you are,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're doing it to someone who doesn't deserve it,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to kind of question it. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a nigga doesn't take care of his kids. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're willing to lie and she on a good nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna you're gonna be a weirdod to me, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta watch you now, bitch, because you don't even

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<v Speaker 3>have loyalty a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like all the relationships that she gets

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<v Speaker 2>that she was in up until this one, like she

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<v Speaker 2>did a number on her how she kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>which she said to me before telling me that she

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<v Speaker 2>cheated on him. I know he's doing something. I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't prove it, like he is, like he is too good,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, no, evene,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know, whatever, there's so many in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of man. You need to his bitch's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know ship. I know, No, he did

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<v Speaker 2>need because he needs to leave or take it a

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<v Speaker 2>therapy or something. Because I shouldn't. I just I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But I feel bad because we all like

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<v Speaker 2>hang out, not hang out, but we all know each other.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy she cheated with, she introduced us to him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh my god. And I told him so,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you are the best, like you she you're

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<v Speaker 2>the best one for her, like she And He's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's He's a nerd to like he got his

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<v Speaker 2>ship together man the hard way. Yeah, yeah, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>she do, but don't feel failto about it, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>because she needed she need a reality check, honestly, and

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<v Speaker 2>she needs therapy. And I think he's too good for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she needs an affirmation from you. What kind of

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<v Speaker 2>affirmation on can you give us? People? Do better? And affirmation?

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<v Speaker 2>Let the ship go? Let it go? Okay? My managers

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<v Speaker 2>like we all right, all right, all right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>affirmation is what I want people to take away from

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<v Speaker 2>the book. Let it go, like accept that, like you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have to be willing you guys at and girls,

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<v Speaker 2>moms and dads. You know, you got to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to accept that this is not the fairy tale ending

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<v Speaker 2>that you thought it would be, you know, except that

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<v Speaker 2>let it go so you can move forward amicably and

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<v Speaker 2>actually get the fairy tale ending. Yeah, and get it

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<v Speaker 2>because I got my fairy tale ending. So did I.

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<v Speaker 3>Because because if you if you stay suckled a nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to be wait, what you need will never

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<v Speaker 3>come exactly. You got to make room for what's actually exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't think I was gonna get married. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a hoe and look at me.

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<v Speaker 2>But hold like your wholeness can be deleted. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>just find a hole and then you hold together. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a whole anogamous. Yeah, I gotta come back because this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I got some questions. I love it. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Wait it was one more thing. Thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was one more thing we have on our story.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh stories. Oh yeah, me and my husband have sex outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, no, we made it quick, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. But where were no no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not in l A, y'all. No, no, no, stop no, So,

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<v Speaker 2>uh where we live we have in the state in Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, right's coming. This was that was the last question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>canep close it back? That was literally the last question.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done. It's fun, keep going, okay, just finishing.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so that that was it. That was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we having a state in Maryland, big beautiful home, two

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<v Speaker 2>part home. And yeah, we was feeling good after one

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<v Speaker 2>of our cookouts that we had like we always do,

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<v Speaker 2>like we do it up real big for Fourth of

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<v Speaker 2>July and yeah, right on the side of the party,

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<v Speaker 2>well let's just get it in. Nobody saw and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was in, you know, right right, but we had so

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<v Speaker 2>it was like you know what let's do this because

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, love me, Let's do it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. So that's a little horror story. I

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah. Well, Jess, thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Thank y'all for having me. This was so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you're go get Jess's book, turn it down.

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<v Speaker 2>So Death Do We Parent is available right now for

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<v Speaker 2>pre order, but it comes out April twenty eighth. And

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<v Speaker 2>I also did the audiobook. So for everybody who loved

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<v Speaker 2>to hear my accent and for everybody who don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it, which y'all do a little bit, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>get the audio book as well, because I'm reading it

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<v Speaker 2>in the finest of Baltimore accent. You do two and booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thanks for coming and hanging out with us

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<v Speaker 2>and for coming back. I love y'all. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much to thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know where to find us at Good Mom's

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to Costa Rica this summer. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>To come after the hell you go out the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I will see you next week. You love you bye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so good. Can't you tell? I went through a drought.

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<v Speaker 5>That's until I find the well maym have been known art.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to be broken tail and now I got

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<v Speaker 5>the blues in to like Beyonce just saying throat shot

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<v Speaker 5>or pop in his cow wearing our voices. Patriarchy kept

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<v Speaker 5>it in the box to exploit it. Women put the

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<v Speaker 5>pee in power, so it's pointless. They want me to

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<v Speaker 5>be good, so I make bad choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad mom, not a bad mom, but a bad mom.

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<v Speaker 2>It He's in on fort cannabis in.

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<v Speaker 5>Their bathbon walked in Boston's cap and I blew his

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<v Speaker 5>cat ball tipe dog. Now I'm immune to the cat

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<v Speaker 5>called Herbie and no waisted straight to it like a

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<v Speaker 5>dollar sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother, rent the lover when too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like a water sign where you're rent the winter

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<v Speaker 5>essential will when the summertime.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it all. Ain't know when that needs a rerun.

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<v Speaker 2>It by