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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has it's swagger back. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We don't have our swagger back, we don't have our host,

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Speaker 1: but I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside Mark Sessler, Chris Wesselene and

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. What's going on? It's up? How are all

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Speaker 1: of you? I think it's good West doesn't get the

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Speaker 1: first like, hey hey Greg, you know since it's a

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Speaker 1: different kind of field. Tonight, Dan of course is with

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Speaker 1: his family at a big time family reunion in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Of course, because that's definitely where you'd be on football Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know they're they're not going to schedule it around

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Speaker 1: our skin. Families come first in our corporation, and I

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna look at the positive. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: miss Dan, but we don't have to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Jets this week. They're on a bye he's not here

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Speaker 1: and we've got Colleen Wolf for the whole show. Major positive, right.

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Speaker 1: I I apologize ahead of time. My no, it's are

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Speaker 1: like beautiful mind Style TV already yelled at me for

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Speaker 1: you got swiftly chantise for having I don't really know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. That was a little weird, TD

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Speaker 1: that you would talk to our guests that way, right

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Speaker 1: off the top, like like give her a bad feel.

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Speaker 1: We want to be welcoming to our guests. I try

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Speaker 1: to deliver the message nice. It was the simple, Hey Colleen,

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Speaker 1: could you just tidy up your papers a little bit?

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Speaker 1: This is your tombstone right now. That's what's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: gonna read on your tombs. T D was here. He

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Speaker 1: bossed around Colleen big Week five. It was a fun day.

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Speaker 1: I think the early set of games was the best

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Speaker 1: early set of games we had all season. A lot

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Speaker 1: of close games. Um, and we have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to on the show. I'm looking forward to. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about all the undefeated teams. Keep winning, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals with a big win, go to five and oh

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Speaker 1: and take care of the Seahawks huge comeback there. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to your Browns, Mark Sessler, I mean that

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's big, big win today. Were you expecting that,

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Speaker 1: We'll no? I was not. I mean, you know, they

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Speaker 1: have not looked like they were prepared to do that.

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Speaker 1: But they're not playing a great team, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Ravens get on too much credit, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that eventually. We're also gonna talk Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night football, not exactly a barn Burner, forty Niners and Giants,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into all of that through the show.

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Speaker 1: But I think let's just get to the games, and

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little Lions and Cardinals right off the top,

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Speaker 1: and we're starting with this game. Maybe it's a weird

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Speaker 1: choice because two major things happened. The Team of a

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Speaker 1: t L was playing in it and delivered a strong message,

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Speaker 1: and Jim Caldwell also delivered a message. Bench and Matthew

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Speaker 1: tell us about it, Uh called well compared to a

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Speaker 1: picture who just doesn't have his best stuff that day.

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Speaker 1: You take him out, you go back, and in five

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Speaker 1: more days he goes out there and starts another game.

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Speaker 1: Stafford be back under center. But there's no denying he's

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Speaker 1: regressed since Joe Lombardi took over his offensive coordinator. He

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Speaker 1: has eight interceptions this year. He had only twelve all

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Speaker 1: of last year. And he looks he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: got happy feet. He's got that thousand yards stare against

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Speaker 1: the blitz. He looked clearly like the pressure is getting

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Speaker 1: to him behind an offensive line. He's probably developed some

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Speaker 1: bad habits. Yeah, he's now eight straight games with fewer

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Speaker 1: than three hundred yards passing. He's never done that in

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Speaker 1: have all these weapons. And I know we've had this

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Speaker 1: and the more and more he breaks down, the more

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Speaker 1: I question where it's coming from. I mean, with Stafford

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Speaker 1: not like this is a new version of him from

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Speaker 1: that angle. I mean, he took eleven quarterback hits today.

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Speaker 1: That line is culpable for part of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: But even behind better versions of this line, Stafford has

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Speaker 1: been constant all year that they're not picking up free blitzers,

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, still seems to take the blame nationally when

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Speaker 1: you appreciate more Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, who

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Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? Well, maybe Jay Cutler isn't

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford the three picks today, But you gotta give

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason I want to put this game first,

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Speaker 1: I think the Stafford news is a huge memorable moment.

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Speaker 1: They're the most complete team in the NFL. I'm waiting

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Speaker 1: that is the statement game of the day. The Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding. I've watched this team long enough

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Speaker 1: and they're five and oh and everything about them is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I have a definitive be for their seventies and eighties

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Speaker 1: I just can't get hold that is fair, Chris. Your

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray had some great stats, some high numbers, but

426
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Speaker 1: a lot of that came in junk time, and Ryan

427
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Speaker 1: Matthews was actually the more featured back in this and

428
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: a key play came. It was a relatively close game

429
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: still and it was first and goal at the two,

430
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Speaker 1: and they gave it to Ryan Matthews and that really

431
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Speaker 1: I think told a story too. I think can we

432
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Speaker 1: just at this point all agree that Ryan Matthews is

433
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Speaker 1: the better fit for this this ground game is and

434
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Speaker 1: I mean I think that even in the summer, were

435
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: people close to the team saying that, and now we're

436
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: seeing it week to week, like to make emotion to

437
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Speaker 1: change garbage time officially to junk time concerted by Sanford

438
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: and Son. It was not good. Also, um, there was

439
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: a play that Sam Bradford threw a touchdown to Josh

440
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Hoff and you tweeted about it too. Saints defenders just

441
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: like smacked right to each other. That was pretty much

442
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: the play that turned the Eagle season around. Just football follies.

443
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: Two Saints defenders like bomb heads fall down and so

444
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles get a big run after the catch. And

445
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Speaker 1: it was another game where and I think that you're

446
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Speaker 1: right Greg about Sean Payton. It's another game where we

447
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: saw Peyton, you know, quietly squaring off with Rob Bryant's sideline.

448
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: And Connor, who wrote up the game, had this line

449
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Speaker 1: that I love you called it. The game had the

450
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Speaker 1: look and feel of a zeppelin rapidly falling to earth.

451
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a line out of the Seffler repertoire. Well,

452
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Speaker 1: I mean it seems accurate though, because what is if

453
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Speaker 1: you're a Saints fan after many fun seasons, you know

454
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Speaker 1: over the past decade plus, what a disaster this team

455
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: is right now? What is your hopeful takeaway? What do

456
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: they do? Well? I think the the end of the

457
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: year video for NFL films will be the two defenders

458
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: crashing into each other. Yeah, and Fletcher Cox like he

459
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: just blew up Drew Brees. The highlights, three sacks to

460
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: fumble recoveries. He had a great game, but Drew Brees

461
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Speaker 1: in this offense, you can really tell how much they

462
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Speaker 1: miss Jimmy Graham. Well, I mean just the fact that

463
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Speaker 1: that's sort of a Jenga piece that shackles Maybe there's

464
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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve altogether. They miss about it. They miss

465
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Speaker 1: even two thousand and thirteen when they want a playoff

466
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Speaker 1: game in Philadelphia. This offense has really not been blamed

467
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Speaker 1: for this start because the defense is such a tire fire,

468
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: and that's fair. The defense is arguably the worst in

469
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Speaker 1: the league, but the offense is thirty worse than it

470
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Speaker 1: used to be. You could see it in the Dallas game.

471
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Speaker 1: Even with Drew Brees back, They're not going up and

472
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Speaker 1: down the field. Willie Snead is their number two receiver.

473
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Speaker 1: They have great running backs, yet the running games not

474
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: really that consistent. It's it's just a dim version of

475
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Speaker 1: what they used to be on offense. And there's not

476
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Speaker 1: big plays. It used to be a big play offense.

477
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Speaker 1: There's not big play and look at Spiller two yards

478
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Speaker 1: on six touches. I think part of it is that

479
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: what we wrote about and heard about the Saints in

480
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: the off season was, oh, this late period, Drew Brees

481
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: is going to be surrounded by right Dallas Cowboys clock

482
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: chewing offense, and that sounds great in May, but then

483
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: they aren't able to get it done. They just cannot

484
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Speaker 1: get it done, and your in your defenses on the

485
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: field and the Eagles gave up. The Eagles had three

486
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Speaker 1: hundred yards in the first half, and it was it

487
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a blow out at the time, but they had

488
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Speaker 1: three hundred yards in the first half of the game.

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Speaker 1: They it was a game where the Eagles had you know,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the two red zone turnoers. You also had

491
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Speaker 1: two fourth and longs that the Eagles went for, which

492
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Speaker 1: was a total sign of disrespect to the Saints offense

493
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Speaker 1: that they failed so in a game like that for

494
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Speaker 1: them to score thirty nine points, I think this is

495
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: easily the darkest day of the Sean Payton era. And

496
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: it's not even close. Well, I mean, there was als,

497
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: so a little scandal would happened a couple of years ago,

498
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: but from an on field perspective, From an on field perspective,

499
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: I think this is worse because to me, it's over,

500
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: and the reasons it's over not not what happened in

501
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: the game, from what happened on ESPN before the games

502
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: that we get a report that the Dolphins are interested

503
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Speaker 1: in Sean Payton and other teams could be interested in

504
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and they throw in the article, Uh, it's

505
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: unclear if Peyton or the Saints would be open to

506
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Speaker 1: such a move because he has two years left in

507
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: his contract. You know, I'm calling VS on that it's open.

508
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: If it's that's coming from Sean Payton, that to me

509
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Speaker 1: is a first sales sign on Sean Payton's house. He

510
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: is saying, I want out of here. And of course

511
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna hide behind sources and reports and whatever. But

512
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: but I'm reading that and I'm thinking Sean Payton would

513
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: love to coach the Dolphins, and it makes a lot

514
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: of sense. Anyone that wants to take him should look

515
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: at what Sean Payton has been. When Drew Brees is

516
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: not Drew Brees on the part that's part of his succes,

517
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: that's a that's a depressing and I it's and I am.

518
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm disappointed. Maybe it's his you know,

519
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: it's his agent. Might not be Sean Payton himself that's

520
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: doing this, but I think it's a disappointing thing for

521
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: Saints fans to see any think on the flip side.

522
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: You know that big takeaway from the Saints. But I

523
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: don't think you take anything away from this game of

524
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: your Eagles. I don't think you can. The Saints are

525
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: that bad, and the Eagles scored on their last seven

526
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Speaker 1: drives after having three yards in the first half. I

527
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: just don't think you can measure yourself against the st

528
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Speaker 1: I don't buy it, No, I don't. I don't buy

529
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Speaker 1: really that the Eagles are selling at this point still

530
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: just because they looked so bad. Well, they were one

531
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Speaker 1: in three two years ago as well, not that that

532
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: really means a whole lot, but Chip Kelly got that

533
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Speaker 1: team into the playoffs, and I just I don't know

534
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: that they lost another team they lost and this is

535
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: another team though that unlike the like the Seahawks have

536
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: a lot of new parts happening on offense, and maybe

537
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: it takes more than a month. That's said. I'm with you,

538
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I the Chip Kelly thing. Have a nice time with it.

539
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. I'm not just buying in all

540
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: over again at this point. All right, what one team

541
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: we're obviously all buying in on the Green Bay Packers

542
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy how these undefeated teams just stay undefeated. Most

543
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: four and no teams in NFL history, and I think

544
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the most five and oh teams in

545
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: NFL history. That the Packers took care of business at

546
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: home twenty four to ten against the St. Louis Rams.

547
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Chris Wesseling, you mentioned going into this game, maybe the

548
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: Rams don't even have the best defense in this game.

549
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: After watching the Packers defense on Sunday, who's better St.

550
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: Louis or Green Bay? Packers were better going into this game,

551
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: and they're much better coming out of I mean, the

552
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: Rams made life difficult for Aaron Rodgers, but the Packers

553
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: made life impossible for Nick Fools. They hit him I

554
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: think eleven times, intercepted him four times, gave him a

555
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: one point five q b R. Clay Matthews looks like

556
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: Troy Troy Polamala, moving all over the defense, the main

557
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: flying behind him, making plays. He had He had fools

558
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: four times himself, and the West as a sucker for

559
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: guys with flowing hair. It's it goes back, It goes

560
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: back to Fabio. Yeah, well just his life experience. He

561
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: just sees it and he's I don't generally, you know,

562
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Speaker 1: I don't. If you were forced to have a fat

563
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: head in your room, would it be Clay Matthew. I

564
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: would not have a fat it were absolutely it would

565
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: be like James Joyce or something. He does not have

566
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: a fat head. James Joyce fathead. He was like four

567
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: ft six, I think, James. It would not be a

568
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: football player in my bedroom. Now. I don't know. I'm

569
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: going to stay out of this one, all right, I'm sorry.

570
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Tell tell us more about the Rams or the Packers defense.

571
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: The James Joyce fat head moving a lot of units

572
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: here in how about you gotta give the Rams defense

573
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: a little credit here? The Packers only scored seven points

574
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: on offensive the first I guess what's seventeen the whole

575
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: game because the Packers defense scored a touchdown here. The

576
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: Rams had chances four red zone trips only one for St. Louis.

577
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: We're watching this. Do you think it was a close game? No? No,

578
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I thought the Packers controlled the game all along, the

579
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: Rams one time in possession, and they were able to

580
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: do that because Todd Gurley is a superstar. I mean,

581
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: he's a game changer. He is to me an old

582
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: school franchise altering kind of running back in their old

583
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 1: Campbell ode where you bring them in with your defense

584
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: already set, you control the clock and if you had

585
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: anything on the offensive line or quarterback, you'd have a

586
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: chance to win. This game. About Aaron Rodgers with three turnovers,

587
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: it had to happen at some point. Well, the two

588
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: interceptions couldn't have been more unlucky for Aaron Rodgers. The

589
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: first one was tipped at the line of scrimmage and

590
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: then James Laura and I just made a diving catch

591
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: for it. The second one wasn't even a catch. But

592
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: since the NFL's catch rule was the worst rule in

593
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: professional sports and it gets rolled in consistently from game

594
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: to game, they can't figure out what it catches. They

595
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: awarded a guy for trapping the ball against the ground.

596
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea why the defense gets credit for that,

597
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: But Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant have to like do

598
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Chinese arithmetic before they can catch it. And it doesn't

599
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: matter when Nick Foles has a QBR that's seventy eight

600
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: and a half points lower than Josh mccounts, because they

601
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: I saw them. They were in the red zone at

602
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: one point and falls got picked off, right, Yeah, that

603
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: at that point they had a chance to make it

604
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: a game, like they were somewhat in this game. But

605
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to have four four interceptions to average four point seven

606
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: yards per tempt their passing game, you don't know what's

607
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: going to show up week the week claim Matthews called

608
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: this the best defense he's been on since he's been

609
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, and it looks like if they bring

610
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot of pass rushers and their young secondary is

611
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: really good. Was not expecting that. I mean, the Packers

612
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: defense in the Super Bowl season took a while to

613
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: get going and then they were really on a roll.

614
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: But there hasn't really been many great Packers defenses, not

615
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: in the McCarthy era. I mean, because they're these last

616
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: two weeks, and granted their playing too offensively challenged teams,

617
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: they haven't had great offensive performances. They scored forty one

618
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: points and some of that's from the defense, and girls,

619
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Speaker 1: one aren't fifty nine yards. Packers played good run defense today,

620
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Girl is just that good? Did that come mostly at

621
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: the end then? I mean we have one fifty something

622
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: yard run and I believe in the fourth quarter. Second

623
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: week in a row, he's had a fifty plus yard run.

624
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: He's like, he moves like no other bad He's got

625
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: a gallop like Adrian Peterson. I mean, he just moves different.

626
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay has now officially clinched the NFC North. I

627
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: just made that. Uh. Patriots are one of those teams,

628
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: like the Packers, that just keep rolling along, and we're

629
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: gonna roll on to their game next. The Cowboys defense

630
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: played very well in the first half, and they sacked

631
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady five times, and yet when you look up

632
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: at the scoreboard at the end of the game, they

633
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: called the basically perfect defensive game plan and they still

634
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: lose thirty to six. New England now four No, they're

635
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: the last of those four NO teams. More of the

636
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: same from them, And really it's kind of watching this game,

637
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what what do you need to do to

638
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots? Like, what do you think the game?

639
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Speaker 1: What do you think that I'd have to, like get

640
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: a group of cars, kidnapped Tom Brady, Jim, tom Brady's

641
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: entire family, maybe Edelman and his family as well, and

642
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: just get them out of town and then go go

643
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: with your backups. That's your only shot against New England.

644
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: I then play the Cardinals. That's what you need. Do

645
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: you think that? I I mean, we're, honestly though, the

646
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: New England until someone goes and takes care of business.

647
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to call New England just as

648
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: much as the best team is Arizona at this point. Well,

649
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: you asked me my opinion. I told you I think

650
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I think the Patriots have a weakness in

651
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: their secondary and the Cardinals don't. What about today that

652
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: Dion lewis today? This guy, I mean I saw him

653
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: with the Eagles and I never saw him in the

654
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: game do anything like that. The way that he made

655
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: people miss today and the production that he had, God,

656
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: it makes me question the Eagles, But it just makes

657
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots so much stronger. The fact that they have

658
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: him and he can do these things. Total yards on

659
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: fourteen touches doesn't really explain what he did today because

660
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: he must have had nine broken tackles. And it's what

661
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: he's doing every week. I mean, it's he is one

662
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: of the best I've practically ever seen it. Just making

663
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: people miss with which he's got a couple of feet

664
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Speaker 1: in front of him. It's it's uncanny how he's in

665
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: the perfect offense because Brady's basically running a spread offense

666
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: right and he's doing short passes. You know, every once

667
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: in a while they stick Lewis on the outside against

668
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Nigel Bradham, who was no prayer of keeping up with him,

669
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: but he's in the perfect spread offense for him. I mean,

670
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: this is and this is Brandon NFL a year ago.

671
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: It's like they keep taking players that have not thrived.

672
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Aultswhere plugged them in and they become core contributors to

673
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: playoff super Bowl team. Well, they have a triplets and

674
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Brady who was sacked, like I said, five times in

675
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: the first half. The Cowboys defense looked completely different with

676
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy. You know, we all probably wish Greg Hardy,

677
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: like we all would be fine if Greg Hardy never

678
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: played in the NFL. I'm actively rooting for that. Yeah,

679
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're all rooting against Greg Hardy.

680
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: And yet when you watch him play and you just

681
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: analyze what happened on the field today, I was thinking,

682
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, this could be the best on field free

683
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: agent signing of the off season if he plays like this.

684
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: He had five quarterback hits today, a couple of sacks,

685
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles for lost. It was one of

686
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: the better defensive performances I would say I've seen this

687
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: year from from just about anyone. So he returns, Rolando

688
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: McClean returns and has a great first game. They really

689
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: played well in the first half, and then it kind

690
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: of fell apart for them, and Sean Lee was back

691
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: on the field. So if you're a Cowboys fan, you

692
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: saw some things to like about. And yet despite all that,

693
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Speaker 1: I mean, Brady's twenty twenty seven, he averages more than

694
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: ten yards per attempt, and they basically just find a

695
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: way to get the job done because that's what they did.

696
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: How can I trust QBR as a stat when Brandon

697
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: we didnt hit a higher QBR in this game than

698
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady did. Wow, that is a problem. That's a

699
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: big problem. I think part of it is there was

700
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: a lot of run after the catch for the Patriots.

701
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots. To be fair to Brady, I mean,

702
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: he had a lot of help today. But yeah, he's

703
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: got Yeah, he's got Julian Edelman making people miss on

704
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: a long touchdown. He's got Gronk, he's got Dion Lewis.

705
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: You had a good running game today with what did

706
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Edelman do toorn? Oh my gosh, he broke his He

707
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: broke his ankles. I mean he he shook him so bad.

708
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: At the start of a play, Claiborne just went down

709
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: on the ground and heat. It looked like a shot horse.

710
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: It was just over. And that that wasn't even the

711
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: play I was talking about. I was talking about the

712
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Speaker 1: sixty nine here a touchdown, uh, And I don't think

713
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: that was Clayborne. But he made one. Cowboy just missed

714
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: badly in the open field. I said it a couple

715
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: of years ago, and you didn't want to hear it.

716
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: But Edelman is a better player than West Welker was.

717
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: He's a better He's a better overall player. I would

718
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: say Julian Edelman can do more things. Well, his peak

719
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: is better than Westwalk. I'm not saying he's gonna have

720
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: a I don't know if I agree, but one thing

721
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: is true. I mean, they found they had Welker, They

722
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: got rid of Welker at the right time. They bring

723
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: in someone and they had already had him in the

724
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: system that simply does what Welker does just as good

725
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: as or or more. At this point, I mean It's

726
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: that's what the New England does. Other players would lose

727
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: someone and then spend the next ten years looking for

728
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: that fill in. England just does it over and over.

729
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: That's so true. We have to bring up, though, too,

730
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line. That's all we heard about. Everybody

731
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: chirping about line. It's so great, Da da da, Like

732
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: Marco Murray gone, does look somebody else in this line

733
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: does not look as good as it was sold to

734
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: us the entire off season. And as you wrote in

735
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: your right up, Greg, the offense in general, they went

736
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: without a first down for twenty five minutes of the

737
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: game at one point, the offense, and that was at

738
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: a time when the Cowboys defense was playing great. They

739
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: had six straight three and ounce at one point. And

740
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: that that's why I'm giving the Cowboys defense a lot

741
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: of credit here, because their offense put them in such

742
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: a bad spot. And even though the weed and stats

743
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: are bad, in the overall Cowboys stats are bad, they're

744
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: very misleading because the game was wildly over before they

745
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: did anything, and a lot of that I think was

746
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Weeden is that they just trusted they could handle the

747
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys receivers on the outside, and they loaded up the box.

748
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: But with that said, they had a ton of penetration

749
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, a lot of tackles for loss

750
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: getting to Weed and very quickly you know, Chandler Jones,

751
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins, Dante hight Oer and your boy Mark Sessler.

752
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Jabal Seared had a big day today. I well, we

753
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: talked about that signing when it happened that. I thought

754
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: that Sheared, who played well in multiple systems in Cleveland,

755
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: was going to be a great fit for New England.

756
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: And secondly, part of the thing with the offensive line

757
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: when you replace you know, Tony Romo with Brandon Weed

758
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: and Brandon Weeden made Cleveland's offensive line look bad when

759
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the Jordan Karen Josh Gordon as the number one receiver

760
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: in the league. So it's just not he's not He's

761
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: not able to do this. Their schedule coming up, Giants, Seahawks, Eagles,

762
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Bucks and Dolphins. They had got to come out of

763
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: this in a still bad division. He's got to win

764
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: some games. He might not be in my negative. I

765
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: think they're going into the bye week now and I

766
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: think they'll strongly consider Castle. I don't know if that's

767
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: going to help matters. You know how much I've ripped

768
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: on Castle over the years. He's a much better quarterback.

769
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I didn't want Well, we'll see. I mean,

770
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: I I'm not sure I trust any Castle narratives at

771
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: this point. That's true. That's just how Phil callahan. I think.

772
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: Leaving that hurt. That's a huge thing with the offensive

773
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: line as well. So their offensive line is struggling. The

774
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: Broncos offensive line has been struggling throughout the season, and

775
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: yet it doesn't seem to matter. The Broncos get another win.

776
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: They're at five and though sixteen to ten over the Raiders.

777
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, is this just the new normal for the Broncos,

778
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: winning ugly but doing it almost the same way every

779
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: single week. I think it has to be because the

780
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: defense is making up for an offense that is one

781
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: of the worst in the league. And that's not hyperbole.

782
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: They were ranked thirty They were ranked thirty of going

783
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: into this game by Football Outsiders. On offense, Peyton Manning

784
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: did not have any touchdown drives. Again, it's also happened

785
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: in Week one. Two thousand three is the last time

786
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: of Peyton Manning led team did not have a touchdown

787
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: so far in two games this year. He has only

788
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: the defense to thank for keeping that streak alot there.

789
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: It has to be part of Peyton Manning that's thinking,

790
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: why couldn't I This is great, I have this defense.

791
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: You're keeping me underfeeding and taking the press draft. But

792
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been cool to have this defense for

793
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: one of my dominant offensive teams at some point, because

794
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: we would have crushed everyone and won the Super Bowl.

795
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say that they are

796
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: the thirtieth best offense, because what did they say all offseason?

797
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna do well, We're gonna run the ball. You

798
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: know it's Peyton doesn't need to throw all over the

799
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: place because we're gonna surround him with a strong running game.

800
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Anderson twenty two yards, Hillman twenty one yards at least

801
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: like the box score every week, minus Hillman's one big

802
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: play from a couple of weeks ago. So you say

803
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: it's not fair. Are you saying they're actually thirty second

804
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: in offense? Well, no, I'm saying that's to say that

805
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy that their thirties. Yeah, they're they're a bad offense.

806
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have Peyton Manning or Derek Carr

807
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Derek Carr about Peyton Manning or Sam Bradford, any of them.

808
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: They're not they're not turning. There's just there's only so much.

809
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I think there's only so much you can do on

810
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: offense with Peyton Manning right now, because he's he's scared

811
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: to get it, it looks like to me, and he

812
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: can't move and he really can't make He can make

813
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: some of the throws, but then there's five or six

814
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: throws a game where you never see anybody through uglier

815
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: paths and it's like, what's happening. Charles Woodson was very

816
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: happy to see him today. A couple interceptions for the

817
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: first time in his career, and Peyton Manning, he just

818
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: continues that streak of multiple interceptions. I think it's been

819
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: four straight games now, wow, and you know again, could

820
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: be three or four interceptions not too well. You mentioned

821
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Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, Colleen and Charles Woodson was a guest this

822
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: week on the Around the NFL television show, hosted of

823
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: course by Andrew Siciliano. That is on every day Monday

824
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: through Friday, Monday's six pm, Thursday's two pm East, and

825
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: that's a three hour show on Thursday, and when Andrew

826
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: talked to Charles Woodson, you know, he said it was

827
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: it was a big life career goal to get his

828
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: hands on Peyton Manning's balls. That's what That's the way

829
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson it and he did it twice. Are happy

830
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: for him, sophomore, Happy birthday to him. That was literally

831
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: he did get his hands on it. He did in

832
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: this in the second interception that Woodson made was was incredible.

833
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: I do want to make a serious point that it's

834
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: insane how well Charles Woodson is playing right now. He's

835
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Speaker 1: leading the league of interceptions, oldest thirty nine, oldest player

836
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Speaker 1: in history with multiple interceptions in the game. He's kind

837
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: of stunned by your consecutive string of like a minus

838
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: plugs here, you're keeping nailing the place a minus. Okay,

839
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. It's pretty good the math test.

840
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: More likely to be playing at our funerals Charles Woodson

841
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: or Keith Richards. I mean, I tweeted, I tweeted, I said,

842
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson is going to be playing after we're all

843
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: dead and gone. He moves up the all time interception

844
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: list too. He's about seventh now that that's true. I

845
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: think he passed who was He's up to Ed Reid,

846
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: He's up to Darren Sharp's passing Ronnie. I mean when

847
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: he was in that Super Bowl one run with the Packers,

848
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: it was almost like an interesting first time anyone asked

849
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: this question. Wow, is Charles Woodson a Hall of Famer?

850
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: And now it just seems obvious that that he's a

851
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Give us a little bit on on

852
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: the account on the Raiders here and their offenses inability

853
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: to score more than ten points? Is it? Is it

854
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: all just give credit to the Denver defense? What is it? Well,

855
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: they moved the ball, and then you have Sebastian Janekalski

856
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: missed the field goal, had another one blocked because it

857
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: was two low, so there's six points right there. Then

858
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: you've got the pick six. So they were driving. Then

859
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: they were driving quite a bit and then von Miller

860
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: strip sack, which was you know, a clown suit play.

861
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Austin Howard missed the block and Von Miller just came

862
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: up and took the ball right away from Derek Carr

863
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: set the Broncos up. So we are a lot of

864
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: drives where they just you know, they could move the

865
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: ball but they didn't end well for the Raiders. We

866
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: needed we need a sponsor for clown suit Play of

867
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: the Week, manufacturers like a clown college guy. I don't know.

868
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: So Derek Carr sacked four times and the Oakland offensive

869
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: line had only allowed three sacks all season. I guess

870
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So when you run into the Denver

871
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: defense there that dominant. We should we should mention that

872
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware left with a back enjy injury and did

873
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: not return. It could be a big injury. It's uncanny, though,

874
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: that that they make that big play every single week,

875
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: and this week it was the touchdown right return and

876
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: at that point in the game, the Raiders still had

877
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: a chance. I do have to call a flag on

878
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: Bill Musgrave and Derek Carr for not changing the play

879
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: call late in the game. They need a touchdown. It's

880
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: fourth and nineteen, literally, they need a touchdown to stay

881
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: in the game, and they threw a screen pass to it.

882
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I think it was fourth and do you remember that.

883
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember the game. The game well,

884
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: at the end, the game was still in doubt and

885
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: it was like they didn't know what the down was,

886
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: so they went forward on fourth and nineteen because you

887
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: have to score touch that and they threw they threw

888
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: a two or three yard pass that gained one yard.

889
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Game This thing I've ever seen. Greg was going to

890
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: find a way to get his angst towards Bill Musgrave

891
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: out in one of these podcasts because we've heard this

892
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: before incident and it's in full blooms. Well, Musgrave should

893
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: be happy because look at what Spegs is doing with

894
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: the Giants defense after Gregg took him to tear so

895
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: tough loss there for the Raiders there now two and three,

896
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos in you know, full control of that division

897
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a fun race for the Buys

898
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: in the a f C because a lot of undefeated

899
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: teams there. Uh. It was a tough loss for them.

900
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: I think it even tougher loss for the Kansas City

901
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: Chiefs today against the Bears. They find a way to

902
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: lose a big lead at home. They fall eighteen seventeen

903
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: uh to Chicago and the Chiefs we now know, could

904
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: be without Jamal Charles for the rest of the season.

905
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: Andy Reid indicated that he in you initial reports say

906
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: it's a torn a c L and M r I

907
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: will confirm that on Monday. Could this have gone any

908
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: worse call for the Chiefs, No, not at all. You

909
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: look at their record and now that they don't have

910
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles when he left the game, they couldn't move

911
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: the offense at all. And that's the biggest problem with

912
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. He needs the run game. He has Jeremy

913
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: Macklin there now, but without anybody to run the ball,

914
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to do anything. I mean,

915
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: Andy Reid after the game, now that they're one in four,

916
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: he was asked just general thoughts and he said, we're

917
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: moving on to Minnesota. That's what we're focusing on. One.

918
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: And for Jamal Charles is not in your offense anymore,

919
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: How are you going to do anything? You feel you

920
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: sound like someone that has a little you know pt RG,

921
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, postraumatic read disorder. You know that you've seen

922
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: some of those too many of those press conferences. And

923
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: because the other thing with him that would be so

924
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: frustrating is you have Jamal Charles and he wouldn't run

925
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: the ball. He wouldn't run the ball, and now you

926
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: don't have him anymore, and I don't know what they're

927
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: going to do it in Kansas City. They got beat

928
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: by Jay Cutler. That's all you really need mean and

929
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Charles was a part of their passing game too. They're

930
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: in big trouble and where they're heading is they're going

931
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: to get forked this week. Well that's for sure for

932
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah, it's over for the Chiefs. And it's

933
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is a piece one of us should

934
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: write this week or something. It's it's these mid level

935
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: quarterback contracts. The franchise quarterback that's not quite worth eighteen

936
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, but they are worth fifteen. That's

937
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: killing these teams now. Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill, Kaepernick, Stafford's

938
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: got all the money, but he's the problem to that.

939
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: It's been a bad year for mid level franchise quarterback.

940
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg. That was going to lead my what

941
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: we learned tonight? Oh wow, I just gave you the

942
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: idea I had. I had something like that going around

943
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: in my head, but I really put it and did

944
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: you put it all together in a digestible way that

945
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: people could underdid It's like and in glove you know

946
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: who I wouldn't put on that list though, Jay Cutler.

947
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta give Jake Culor some credit the

948
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: sorrow if they could. The Bears are scrappy. Here's a

949
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: quote from Matt Slawson, who that's his real name. He's

950
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: a guard, not Matt Clawson. Uh. Jay is the definition

951
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: of resiliency. That's his quote. After this game. Every few

952
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: games you'll have a wandering Bear supporting Jay Cutler, and

953
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: then in the offseason you hear nothing. You gotta give

954
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: some credit that they won a game, and I know

955
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: it was you know, Jay Color didn't have the greatest

956
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: game ever, necessarily Colleen. There were there were a lot

957
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: of misques. There was a botched snap at one point

958
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: that he almost fumbled and he did manage to throw

959
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: a touchdown out of it, but it was just a

960
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: slopping Both of the quarterbacks were in the gabbard zone. Well.

961
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: They also found a way to win a game. The

962
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs found a way to blow a game where they

963
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: had a touchdown on defense from a j Cutler fumball.

964
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: I was going to give him some credit. His leading

965
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this game are Mark Marcus Wilson, Cameron Meredith,

966
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: and Josh Bellamy. Those are his top three whiteouts, all

967
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: sun Jeffrey no Eddy Royal, you know, give j a

968
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: little bit. I have to go to road World and

969
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: find out who Cameron Meredith is. I've never heard of him.

970
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: He was doing something last week and I was like,

971
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: who is that guy? Who is Meredith? Undrafted out of

972
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Illinois State? They just picked him out of their backyard.

973
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Matt Forte deserves really all the love. Yeah, I mean

974
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: he had a good game. He had twenty some touches

975
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: and over a hundred yards. I'm just saying he's carrying

976
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: this team. The Bears we called we thought they were

977
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. They they've won two

978
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: games in a row. Have to be in that mix

979
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: for the worst team in the league. Well, look, there's

980
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: a reason why we never believe in the Chiefs. When

981
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: your best player is Jamal Charles and you know that

982
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: if he goes down, they're done because you don't have

983
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. T TD you know, you know, puts

984
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: little thoughts into my ear every now and then, er

985
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: tells me what game is coming today, also when we're

986
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: outside of the studio. But yeah, but since you know

987
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: you you want to dig, you want to get a

988
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: dig in here some wear. So let's just have you

989
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: voice it instead of me, you know, doing it for you.

990
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean your boy Dave damn sick has his has

991
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as a super bullpig. So you know he

992
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: does that every year. He does. He had them over

993
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: the Texans in the NFC Championship game. He does. Well.

994
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: This is the guy who had Jake Cutler frim v p. Well,

995
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: he had the Bengals recently and he was a year

996
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: maybe a year or two early on that. So the

997
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: check kiss of death that loves the Chiefs are done

998
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: at one and four. The Bears deserve a little credit

999
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: for being feisty. Well, they don't deserve a lot of credit.

1000
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I think we've said enough. Okay, let's move on to

1001
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: another game that we're not going to talk that much about,

1002
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: probably the Bucks and the Jaguars. But at least Chris

1003
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: Wesley and this was a little more entertaining, a little

1004
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: more filled with offense, some young quarterbacks, and the Bucks

1005
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: get their second win of the year, thirty eight to

1006
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: thirty one over the Jaguars. Well, look, this game was sneaky, exciting.

1007
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: Doug Martin ran about as well as anybody's run all year.

1008
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: Today he looked from start to finish. He looked like

1009
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: a complete, impressive, dynamic running back just took over the game.

1010
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: And maybe that had to do with the Jaguars leading

1011
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: tackle tackler, Paul pause Lesni was out, so they were

1012
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: a Swiss cheese defense today. But Martin looked great. And

1013
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: they've got this dude named Howard Jones that they signed.

1014
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: They signed off the Pittsburgh Stealers practice squad, gave him

1015
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: the highest contract of anybody on a practice squad. Active

1016
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: for the first time today and he's flying around the

1017
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: field two sacks, no one else to blame. That's why

1018
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: they call him the scientist Alan by the way, because

1019
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: he's got all the low down. Well Thinkward Jones. Howard

1020
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: Jones is like in a mid eighties pop had like

1021
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: a six gread girlfriend. If you were you were writing

1022
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: a headline for the Bucks on defense, you would say

1023
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: things can only get better. It's like it's like if

1024
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: you don't have enough money for Howard Johnson, they you

1025
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: know they have the Howard Jones down the street. Lights

1026
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: are on trampling all over. Howard Jones talking about Lake

1027
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: Bortles for a second, I mean his last two games,

1028
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: put them together, and I think we're seeing some progress

1029
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: from this guy. He looked good today. And you know,

1030
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: you've got Julius Thomas coming back. He was worked in slowly,

1031
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: he didn't start and it seemed like he was playing

1032
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: on third downs initially. But you've got all the you know,

1033
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, Allen Robinson, Alan Hearns is coming on. The

1034
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: Albino Tiger might come back at some point, Marquis Lee.

1035
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: They've got some weapons on this offense. Yeah. And also,

1036
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean you have to be happy for Lovey Smith

1037
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: because he gets his first home win ever with the Bucks. Wow.

1038
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. I know how that man have

1039
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: a job. I know, so that happen. That's crazy. But yeah,

1040
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: the the one thing though, I thought the bucks um

1041
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: defensive front did look a little bit better than the Jags.

1042
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: You look at those two offensive lines, not the best

1043
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, because Bordles outplayed Winston. Bordles played

1044
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: really well for the second straight week. I think there's

1045
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: some real tangible improvement. Well here's the problem in Jacksonville,

1046
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: because yeah, we just took you know, Lovey Smith to

1047
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: town for not winning more than one game at home.

1048
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: If you're the Jaguars, you're still you're one in four.

1049
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: At some point, this coaching staff that we have just

1050
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: given a huge leash too, has to start winning these games.

1051
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: This was a game they had to win, I think,

1052
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: and they're not doing it. I think this is one

1053
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: of the well I mean, it's only been a season

1054
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: and a half, but this is a really tough loss

1055
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: for the Gus Bradley regime. I think to get that

1056
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: kind of performance from from Blake Bortles, where he's four touchdowns,

1057
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: nine point two yards per attempt, thirty one points, you

1058
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: finally get an offensive performance and then your defense what

1059
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: this team is usually it's supposed to be about to

1060
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: give up thirty eight points to Doug Martin in Jamis

1061
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Winston and you're not even the best team in the

1062
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: lousy state of Florida. You're one in four. It's hard

1063
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: to see progress that they got ran over a three

1064
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: yards on the ground given up. I mean, I really think,

1065
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: I really think if Bortles develops into the guy you

1066
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: think is the face of the franchise, the coaching staff

1067
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: will be fine. I guess you don't want to You

1068
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: don't want to bring in a new coach. When Bordles

1069
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: is playing well and finally looks like a well a

1070
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: good young quarterback can extend your coaching career for a

1071
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: long time. The same is true for love you. I mean,

1072
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: he's already matched last season's win total. Yeah, I would

1073
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: have never guessed that a game with Winston and Bortles

1074
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: would have over ten yards per a tempt between the

1075
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: two of them out there throwing bombs. Jagger has gotta

1076
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: get some wins before they go to London. I feel like,

1077
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be covering there there soon. I

1078
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: guess they only have one more game before they go. Ye,

1079
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: add a little sizzle. You're gonna be covering what Jaguars

1080
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Bills is the game. You're gonna be entrenched with the

1081
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: Bills because you and Rex have such a lovely relationship.

1082
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm open to my mind changed. All right, let's talk

1083
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: about those Rex lead Bills. They find a way to

1084
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: get a victory in Tennessee. It was fourteen to thirteen,

1085
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe not the prettiest game in the world, but the

1086
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Bills were down, feeling like it could be a little

1087
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: bit of a low point in their season, and they

1088
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: do back to win the game Colling. Yeah, and the

1089
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Bills they were without Sammy Watkins, Shawn McCoy, Carlos Williams.

1090
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: They had really no offensive weapons. And Tyrod Taylor he

1091
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: did a lot. He rushed for over seventy yards in

1092
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: this game and he even caught a pass from Chris

1093
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Hogan a touchdown. Yeah. So um and they and they

1094
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: even got some production out of Dan Herron, who they

1095
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: signed this week. So he was the other leading rusher

1096
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: behind Tyrod Taylor. So this this whin they barely edged

1097
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: the Titans, but it wasn't pretty. They did it though

1098
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: they have gotten nothing through the air without Watkinson there.

1099
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: There's just not a single receiver that stood out. It

1100
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: was one of the more stunning scorelines I saw today.

1101
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: When it was three nothing at half time. I was

1102
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: shocked at the Titans defense, which has not been good

1103
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: this year. I know the Bills were missing a lot

1104
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: of people, so maybe I shouldn't, but I liked Tyrod Taylor.

1105
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: The more I watched him, the more I like him

1106
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: in general, and I thought he would find a way

1107
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: and he did. I mean he he runs for seventy

1108
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: six yards, the next leading rusher on the team at

1109
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards. Who would you rather? They had no

1110
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: running game and Chris Hogan as their number one receiver

1111
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: and they won a game, so they deserve some Who

1112
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: would you rather have running your defense? Rex Ryan or

1113
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Dick Lebo Rex Ryan. It's not even close. I think

1114
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: it's not even close because Dick Lebo is eighty years

1115
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: old or whatever. He basically just got fired by that

1116
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: loved him. Yes it is, I mean, how could it.

1117
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: I like Dick Lebo a lot. I mean, I think

1118
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 1: he's there. That's one reason that they've changed. They changed

1119
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: a little bit this The wild eyes are coming out

1120
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: at me for the age. I think it's fair to

1121
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: say people reach the professional peaks and in general I'm

1122
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: asking then, maybe not this month, this week, but of

1123
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: the two defensive minds, you believe more in Rex Ryan

1124
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: than Dick Lebo. I would disagree with you, said Lebo

1125
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: at his peak, that's that's different. I still would take Rex.

1126
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Rex Ryan has a lot of bad games

1127
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: on his resume. On defense, Connor Or, who wrote up

1128
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: this game, gave a lot of credit to the fact

1129
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: that even even though um, you know, they were trailing

1130
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: much of the game, that the defense the attitude, big

1131
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: hits at the end of the game when the Titans

1132
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: had a chance to go try to drive for a

1133
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: field goal. Ultimately, it's this is I was thinking when

1134
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: it was three nothing. This is like, Wow, this is

1135
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: what Rex wants. This is the team that he wants.

1136
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: Three nothing games. That's like his dream, very defensive minded teams. Yeah. Big,

1137
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: big win though for the Bills. And it also makes

1138
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: me think the a f C South is is getting

1139
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: close to being almost over. As bad as I mean,

1140
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: the Colts are probably gonna lose this week to the

1141
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: to the Patriots, but just the rest of the a

1142
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: f C South, other than the Colts really struggling to

1143
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: find a win. The Bills get to three and two,

1144
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: and now let's move on to our our last game

1145
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: before the Sunday night game, the Cleveland Browns. Mark Sessler

1146
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: thirty three to thirty. You desperately wanted to cover this game.

1147
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: First time you covered a Brown's game all season in

1148
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: the office. I see that as a sign that you're

1149
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: back on board. Do the Browns Mark Sessler finally have

1150
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback in Josh mccownt well. It's depressing because he's

1151
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: like forty three years old. But he has played lights

1152
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: out and back to back. That's but it's I mean,

1153
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: first quarterback in the history of No Listen, it's not

1154
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: been a good twenty years. But there's a lot of

1155
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: good Browns teams over their history. First quarterback in Brown's

1156
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: history for back to back to back three hundred yard

1157
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: games through for four hundred and fifty seven yards to day,

1158
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: which set a franchise record. And this is for a

1159
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: team that rightly so we questioned that they were the

1160
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: worst skill position collection of skill posion players in the

1161
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: entire league before the season, and instead they're averaging like

1162
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven points a game. It's all coming through the

1163
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: air because they can't run the ball, which is what

1164
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: they sold us as their method for victories. And their

1165
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: defense is atrocious. So everything that the organization said, this

1166
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: is what we're all about. We're bread and butter, We're tough.

1167
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna win games ten to seven. You are winning

1168
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: games thirty three to thirty in overtime. I don't know

1169
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: what happen. You know who is in a sneaky running

1170
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: maybe for that coordinator of the year job, your boy,

1171
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in Cleveland. I mean, I know they

1172
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: lose Kyle Shanahan. But your boys doing pretty well, except

1173
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: though Shanahan has revealed that the Browns line is nothing

1174
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: like it was a year ago. Away from what they

1175
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: did last year, has completely reduced their running game to salt.

1176
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: When you bring up when you bring in a first

1177
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: time offensive coordinator that hasn't been with the organization, I

1178
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: think that's always a big risk. I think the Lions

1179
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: are seen with Joe Lombardi. Uh you know the downside

1180
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: of that risk, really an offensive doesn't fit them. They

1181
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: bring in d Filippo and he's Joshua Counten. It looks fantastic.

1182
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: We were a little we were a year of premature

1183
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: on making the leave. By the way, you gave up

1184
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: on josh mccn two weeks ago, and he's put together

1185
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: his two mass games by far since he's been in Chicago.

1186
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Because he there was nothing sneaky about last week. I

1187
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: thought maybe maybe it's garbage time, maybe it's this or that.

1188
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: But he was fantastic last week and sounds like he

1189
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: was a game. And that is to Filippa because they

1190
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: he's he. One thing that changed with that organization is

1191
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: that they got on the quarterbacks this offseason, and honestly,

1192
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: McCown is a massive upgrade over Brian Hire a year ago,

1193
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Gary Barnet or Rob Gunkowski. He he joke around, but

1194
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: Barnet has been hanging out my Donnie's free roster forever.

1195
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: I've always loved him because he's a better athlete thing

1196
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: you think, and he's got great hands. I always wonder

1197
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: why he wasn't used more for years, because he's been

1198
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: It was Rob Chazinski that brought him to Cleveland from Carolina,

1199
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: and he was never used much. They had Jordan Cameron,

1200
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: so he wasn't gonna play that role, but he didn't

1201
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: have a drop for years, like it was. It was

1202
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: just it's not some Jim Dre who can't move that well.

1203
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete for a tight end. Yeah, And

1204
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do at this point with

1205
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel because Josh McCown is really Yeah, I mean,

1206
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: wait till they lose nothing, if they love, if they

1207
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: all three games under five hundred at any point, even

1208
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: if Josh McCown is playing well, I mean, unless he's

1209
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: playing this well, I think you still make a change.

1210
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: But who knows. The Browns are two and three. Well,

1211
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: their schedule, their upcoming schedule is an absolute disaster. I

1212
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: think it's the Broncos, the Rams, the Cardinals are in there,

1213
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: and then you get the Bengals and Steelers. As what

1214
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: would your official title be on NFL Sunday Blitz? Um,

1215
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I don't know because I was

1216
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna say the host, But you're not the titles. You

1217
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of jump in and you talk. But when you're

1218
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: over there, can you tell the difference on a day

1219
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: where Mark Sessler comes over to the couch after Brown's

1220
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: win in the Brown's last like, what what is the difference,

1221
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: like your interaction with him, his with the rest of

1222
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: the guys, everything like that. Well, it's only happened two times,

1223
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: so it's a it's a small sample size to deal with. Um,

1224
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, the Ravens, we tend to do

1225
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: this show. We only talk Browns during Brown's game. That's

1226
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: a good point. The Ravens are one and four right now,

1227
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: and they're lucky to be one in four because the

1228
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: game against Pittsburgh they should have lost. They should be

1229
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: winless right now with the Lions and they Joe Flacco

1230
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: has nobody to throw to he has camar Akin, he

1231
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: has Chris Gibbons, he has who else is It's a

1232
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: it's a mash up of bad receivers, and they are

1233
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. You've been killing their defense.

1234
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah there, I'm not killing their defense. Everyone that's played

1235
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: them is killed because you go and give up five

1236
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards to the Browns, this year's Browns.

1237
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: You don't have a whole lot of excuses left. And

1238
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: it's it's not this is not an aberration. Every week

1239
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: they're getting fried. Justin Forsatt, though, did have a good game,

1240
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty one yards, but that's against the

1241
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: Cleveland run defense, which is a shocking, terrible group of

1242
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: run stoppers. Like they have no one that can contain

1243
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: the edge. Just run around the tackle and you're gonna

1244
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: be fine, ye trust you know you watch long enough.

1245
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: And even if the coaches remain the same team personalities

1246
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: like they have, ven actually go away, like the Steelers

1247
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: are now a bombs away passing attack and the Ravens

1248
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: are one of the most lifeless defenses in the entirely.

1249
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: You could have used Parnell McPhee, I think for oh yeah,

1250
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: that's a great point. All right, A lot of great

1251
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: points happened today, most of them by Colleen Wolfe. We're

1252
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna say, we're gonna you know mostly yeah, I would

1253
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: say like Mark had a few west not his best day. Uh, Colleen,

1254
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, thanks again, you can you can see you

1255
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: on NFL now a week of course on Sundays, we

1256
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: know where to find you doing Fantasy Live Now well days. Yeah,

1257
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody because I wasn't sure if it

1258
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: was real. I didn't want to jink. That is real.

1259
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: When you when you have the chance um to be

1260
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,959
Speaker 1: to work with Michael Fabiano, you just go Hall of Famer.

1261
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: You just got not jinks anything. So that's great. We'll

1262
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: watch you there and of course we'll see you every

1263
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: Sunday night here every Sunday. You're a mainstay as part

1264
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Speaker 1: of the show. Colleen, Thank you very much. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we move on to the big Sunday night

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Speaker 1: game you know earlier in the show, and I kinda

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Speaker 1: I mocked this game, the matchup that wasn't getting me excited.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, it turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: great game. Giants win it thirty seven on a last

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Speaker 1: minute Eli Manning toss to Larry Danell. Was it the

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Speaker 1: play of the day? Mark Sessler, Well, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: last play of the day, so yes it is. That's

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Speaker 1: how things work, and and and really for me, it

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Speaker 1: was another lesson with Odell Beckham because out for much

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Speaker 1: of the second half of a hamstring injury. Just putting

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Speaker 1: him on the field at the end forced the forty

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Speaker 1: niners to account for him. He had a huge p

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Speaker 1: I a call that helped the Giants get down the

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Speaker 1: field and then the touchdown at the end. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it would have happened without him on the field.

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Speaker 1: T D and I had a big debate, like right

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Speaker 1: before that pass interference called right before he came on

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Speaker 1: the field. TD said, you can't mess with a hamstring

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Speaker 1: back in again and I said, he played a win

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Speaker 1: the game, t tyke game. What good is he in

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Speaker 1: three or four weeks if you lose three or four games,

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Speaker 1: get him on the field, but he getting called out

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Speaker 1: full force? What do you think about your coaching acumen?

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Speaker 1: Getting questioned right here TV because I'm thinking about Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham's career, because West, like me, thinks it could be

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest thing ever do with a ham shrink.

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Speaker 1: If you mess that up, that is something that it

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Speaker 1: won't be three to four weeks, it could be a

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Speaker 1: whole season. So again, if it was an ankle, for

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Speaker 1: sure himmy up a little bit more careful with that. Well,

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Speaker 1: he was running on the sideline. And you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: typical of how Odell Beckham outshines the rest of this

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Speaker 1: group that Larry Dennelle makes an unbelievable catching. We're getting

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Speaker 1: a great throat by Eli Manning, a great drive which

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Speaker 1: was really keyed by some Shane vereene catches, especially the

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Speaker 1: one that got them into the red zones. Like I

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Speaker 1: agree with Chris Collinsworth. You can't let Shane vereen beat

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Speaker 1: you all the way down the field. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what Eli Manning wants to do. They got the

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Speaker 1: ball back, of course, down for knowing they needed the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and that throat to Dannell is great. But Larry Dinnell,

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Speaker 1: who drops some easy catches, makes a leaping catch on

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Speaker 1: his fingertips over Navara Bowman Antoine bethet Is coming over.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was not an easy play at all.

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Speaker 1: It was basically in the double coverage you know what

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Speaker 1: that is. It's a first place play puts the Giants

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Speaker 1: in first place. We would have been tied. Everybody would

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Speaker 1: have been tied it with the same record if not

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Speaker 1: for that play. So the Giants are not one game up.

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Speaker 1: And all this division takes is one team doing this

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Speaker 1: more than every other week, because it seems like we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get an eight and eight winner to this division potentially.

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Speaker 1: But this is if you're San Francisco though, it is tough.

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Speaker 1: This is a tough loss because you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know where the other wins are gonna come. You gave

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Speaker 1: up five hundred and twenty five yards and to Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning four hundred and forty one through the air. Every week,

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Speaker 1: it's a new disaster for this defense. Well, on the road,

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Speaker 1: there are a different team on the road. You give

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning the franchise record for most completions in the game.

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Speaker 1: Big Ben had one of the best games of his

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Speaker 1: career against this defense, and Carson Palmer lit him up

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, you mentioned I mean this. This was an

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Speaker 1: average day for them on the road. And it's a

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Speaker 1: shame because after such depressing losses the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks and games where we started questioning the future of

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, and I don't think he settled those questions.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday night. Kaepernick goes out there. He throws for

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Speaker 1: two and sixty two yards, especially in a couple of touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: especially after early in the game they weren't getting anything done.

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Speaker 1: They moved the ball very well in the second half.

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Speaker 1: They have a touchdown drive when they absolutely needed it

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Speaker 1: to take the lead. It looked at that point like

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is gonna win. Carlos Hyde ran the ball

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Speaker 1: fairly well, and Jan Bolden gets off to even you know,

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Speaker 1: woke up Tori Smith. He's still on the team, and

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Speaker 1: yet they still can't get it one because the defense collapses.

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Speaker 1: If it's not one thing, it's the other. Yeah, you really,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to start questioning some people in

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Speaker 1: the front office for the change in direction on this team.

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Speaker 1: That you know, Trent Balky has been a pretty good drafter,

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Speaker 1: but to assume that he was the one responsible for

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Speaker 1: that many dynasty they've had over the past half decade

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Speaker 1: and now they they're one and four and they look lost. Well,

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Speaker 1: that had a lot of Scott mcgluen's fingerprints all over

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Speaker 1: it as well, and they part of it is the attitude.

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Speaker 1: They boldly said, we're right, you're wrong. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: rid of some great coaches bringing you know, four team

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Speaker 1: players are gonna leave the building. But don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: We hadn't. We got under control. And there's the results.

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Speaker 1: You're not a good football team anymore. Yeah, the offseason

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Speaker 1: moves were one thing in the retirements are bad luck.

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Speaker 1: And even at the end of last season, it was

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Speaker 1: clear that the time had run its course and hard

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Speaker 1: about what what I have a problem with is really

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Speaker 1: the animosity that was building about credit before that all

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Speaker 1: happened dating back to last off season, early last season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was these were rumblings we heard about

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Speaker 1: a while ago. And if you're a forty Niners fan,

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna want some changes again. Tom Seula

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Speaker 1: sweating like a madman on the sideline tonight. He needed

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Speaker 1: this win, and I don't. I just thought it's a

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Speaker 1: tough situation. So the Giants go to three and two.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give him credit. After some brutal losses to

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Speaker 1: start the year, they have won three in a row

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Speaker 1: and they've been West West. We talked about it earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week. Just in the office, they've been the

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Speaker 1: best team in the division. I mean, they've been at

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Speaker 1: least consistent where you kind of know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get from the Giants. A not a great defense, We

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna win more than night. Much

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Speaker 1: better defense than we gave him credit for. But they're

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Speaker 1: only that way because Tony Romo and Dez Bryant are

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Speaker 1: not in the field. That's the only reason that they are.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Um, so that's fair for them. I think

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Speaker 1: this was a fair show. I missed Dan, you know,

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Speaker 1: I like, I don't like. Yeah, I like it when

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Speaker 1: Dan's hosting you can just kind of sit back and

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Speaker 1: crack wise. Um, but I think we did. You know,

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Speaker 1: we did a fair job replacing him. And he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday, and uh, you know, we'll just

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Speaker 1: keep taping shows. I like to call it the Return

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Speaker 1: of the Mirth, the Return of the Mirth Show. So

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Speaker 1: that's coming up on Tuesday, audio only our podcast. Then

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Speaker 1: on Thursday we'll also have our big preview show. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you can check us out on NFL Now all day

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Speaker 1: on Monday, and uh, that's really it for the Week

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Speaker 1: five podcast see TD There you go. Set it up

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Speaker 1: all right for Greg Rosenthal, Colleen Wolf who did a

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Speaker 1: great job today, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, all the guys

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Speaker 1: in the back. We'll see you Tuesday, m