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Speaker 2: FT Spring Training Tour, which by the way, is in

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Speaker 2: you first, how is Race Camp?

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Speaker 1: We're inside today and I don't know if you got well,

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's cold here. It's still we had to

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Speaker 4: We had some good days, but now it's starting to

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Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, we'll definitely ask basically everyone about what

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Speaker 2: Yankee spring training home. At least they got the Yankee

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Speaker 1: To the old We were there last week?

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Speaker 1: Was it was last week when we were there? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Going to cover some of these up.

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Speaker 1: I mean everywhere you look there is like a Yankees

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Speaker 1: I've been told, the race have seventy two hours from

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be interesting to see how it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll take a doodo on that sign or something.

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Speaker 2: Epic. All right, So before we get to all the conversations,

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Speaker 2: This is the good stuff right here. We're always looking

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Speaker 2: for transparency. Laddie Junior spoke to Enrique Rojas and Ernesto

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Speaker 2: those claims, refuted those claims about salary expectations that were

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Speaker 2: comparable to Juan Soto's deal, which was fifteen years, a

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Speaker 2: it's much less than Sodo. We're talking about many fewer

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Speaker 2: The last number we gave them as a counter offer

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Speaker 2: What do you think aj was fair? Because I keep

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Speaker 1: No, because he's the biggest name on the free agent

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Speaker 1: But to me, I think this was very fair and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing to me think and we're not talking

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Speaker 4: so be it. But you know, that's a range where

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying so that's the business part

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think the days I don't think they got Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I don't mind him coming out and talking and

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Speaker 2: I okay, let's do this. Raise your hand if you

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Speaker 2: think that the Blue Jays went to five hundred plus

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Speaker 4: No, now, looking at it, looking more and more at

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Speaker 2: it's the free agent market, it's probably doing better than that.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the position in this case. Youth,

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, in the back of your mind, I think

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Speaker 3: They have money.

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Speaker 1: Rogers, I mean, Todd, you've been to Toronto if you've

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Speaker 4: This hurts? This hurts. You know, you know when someone

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Speaker 2: I mean that those are the big ones. Those are

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Speaker 4: Yep, that was I was going to finish with that

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Speaker 2: There is no past game plan for them to play

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Speaker 4: They're available to win a World Series. This guy just

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Speaker 4: So I think this was their game plan all along,

433
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Speaker 4: knowing let's stack up, knowing show Hey might not pitch

434
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Speaker 4: a lot, at least in the early goings, and if

435
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Speaker 4: they're doing well, why would they even throw them anyway?

436
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Speaker 4: Save them as a month as long as you can

437
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 4: get that arm going and let him just hit and

438
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Speaker 4: go out there and be a masterful hitter. As we know.

439
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Speaker 1: I asked this question when they signed Show Hey. What

440
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Speaker 1: happens if show Hey wakes up one day and says,

441
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to pitch anymore. And now with all

442
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: these delays, he's already missed a year. We're already looking

443
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Speaker 1: if he's not ready in May, or already looking into

444
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: June or possibly July, that's almost two years of him

445
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Speaker 1: not pitching. Is the contract still worth it right now?

446
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Speaker 1: I'd say yes because the Dodgers won a World Series

447
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: and the money they make off of him. But again,

448
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Speaker 1: I'm still going to go back to this when he's like,

449
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: I hate doing all this rehab, I hate having a pitch.

450
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Speaker 4: I just want to rake great.

451
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Speaker 1: That's just prerogative. There's nothing the Dodgers can do right

452
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Speaker 1: if he makes a decision. Good for show Hey, but again,

453
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Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, it wasn't worth it because

454
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Speaker 1: they signed a two way player.

455
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Speaker 3: Show Hay is worth it.

456
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Speaker 2: He is beyond worth it. Okay, So that contract in

457
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: present day value was about half the contract of Juan

458
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Speaker 2: Soto last year alone. We've talked about this a ton

459
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Speaker 2: on our show. He made the team an incremental marketing

460
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 2: value over one hundred million dollars. He also had a

461
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty plus season and helped them win a

462
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Speaker 2: World Series title. You could make an argument that alone

463
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: makes the whole contract worth it and then some and

464
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Speaker 2: that's year one of ten. He is the biggest bargain

465
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Speaker 2: in baseball. He might be the biggest bargain in sports

466
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Speaker 2: contract history, even if he's just a hitter AJ because okay,

467
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: let's wipe out the pitching top five bat and he's

468
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: bringing the team a ton of money and a ton

469
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Speaker 2: of success. That's what you sign a guy up for.

470
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Speaker 3: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: And also, people say, oh, the Dodgers are gonna have

472
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Speaker 1: to make up to sixty eight million for ten years

473
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Speaker 1: after he's done playing, possibly of la Guess what if

474
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Speaker 1: they're making one hundred and fifty plus million dollars right now?

475
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Speaker 1: That's sixty eight ten years from now, nine years from now,

476
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: they're gonna put it in somewhere. It's gonna have interest, interest,

477
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Speaker 1: interest interest. That's gonna be chump change. And that's why

478
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Speaker 1: with the Dodgers payrolling. Yes, so everyone says old they're

479
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: they're deferbs. Well, guess what, that's smart because they're making

480
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Speaker 1: all the money now they're winning World Series.

481
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Speaker 3: Now that money.

482
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Speaker 1: Later on, they're gonna be like, we don't even care

483
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Speaker 1: we won. Let's say they win two more World Series

484
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: in the next ten years, they're gonna be like, we

485
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Speaker 1: won three World Series under this This contract was a

486
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: million percent worth it, So I have I still think

487
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Speaker 1: he's worth it. I still think it's a great signing.

488
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Speaker 1: And like you said, Scott, he's the most underpaid guy

489
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Speaker 1: on the planet right now.

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

491
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Speaker 2: Also, that money has to be put away. I think

492
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Speaker 2: you get a year to have to put that money away.

493
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Speaker 2: It's not like ten years from now and you're just

494
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna be like, whoops, we don't have enough for him,

495
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Speaker 2: Like you said, Aj, Yeah, it's an escro They're good.

496
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Speaker 2: They're so good on this deal. I mean they probably

497
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Speaker 2: saw this offer Todd father initially from Otani when he

498
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: brought up the sixty eight mil a year de third

499
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Speaker 2: of the seventy to make it a much much lower

500
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: contract value, they probably were popping bottles right there, obviously

501
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: not knowing they had him yet, but the fact that

502
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: you know they could manipulate the money that way, it's

503
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: huge for them. So on the pitching side too, I

504
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: just want to say, it's a bonus. It's awesome. We

505
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: all want it sport wise to be able to see

506
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: more two way players. If you're a fan of baseball,

507
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: it's super cool. I'm sure other teams are obviously okay

508
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: if he's just a hitter and not bringing as much

509
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 2: to the table, but either way, he's a massive asset

510
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Speaker 2: to the team and he's worth it.

511
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Speaker 4: Well, we've talked about this over and over. The best

512
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: player in baseball right now, the best hitter, and he

513
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: is going to keep doing it and doing it for

514
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Speaker 4: a lot of more a lot more years. People are like, oh,

515
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: what about so yeah, so Sodo is right there, But

516
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: I I just believe those two guys. I mean, they

517
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: have all the intangibles as great hitters and they are superb.

518
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 4: But again, all the money in the world worth it.

519
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: Whatever team he was on, Now the Dodgers get to

520
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: reap those benefits.

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. Ronald run a little less

522
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: this year, too, aj because and that's just the stolen bases.

523
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Speaker 2: Otani does all of these things. They put a lot

524
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Speaker 2: of wear and tear on your body. And so I

525
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: give the Dodgers credit. I mean, I don't want him

526
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: just popping up in October to pitch, because he's got

527
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: to pitch a little in the bigs and make sure

528
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: everything's good. But if he doesn't pitch until August and

529
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Speaker 2: he's fine and you save the bullets, do we care?

530
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Speaker 1: So be t Let me ask you this, would you

531
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: rather have show his contract but the deferred money or

532
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: one Soto's contract?

533
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Speaker 4: I would, I mean any right man? And in my opinion,

534
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: I want I want them more money. So well, California,

535
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: New York. You gotta think about all those things.

536
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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about standpoint from the team.

537
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Speaker 4: You're talking about money. I would I would take I

538
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: would say Shotani knowing that he can pitch.

539
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: It's not just clo.

540
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: It's not even close. No, I'm saying.

541
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: Double Otani's deal. Think about that, Yes, making double Otani

542
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: And this.

543
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Speaker 1: Is not a knock on one so at all, and

544
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've sold a lot of one so Mets fans,

545
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: but brings in the rest of the world, the world Japan, everywhere,

546
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: turns in everything show he does. Yeah, I'm talking around

547
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: the little Nember Fox ran the little thing that you

548
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: see everywhere. Show is seven months away, right seven and

549
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: batters away whatever he kept popping out him and judge

550
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: on the little on the little score bugget on the yep. Yeah,

551
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: and even in the Super Bowl. I think they ran

552
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: in show three months away.

553
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: All right, so uh, anyway, we'll keep track of show

554
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: his progress. But at least for now, it does sound

555
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: like he's not going to pitch as soon as we

556
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: at least initially anticipated in the bigs. But he'll be

557
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: a bat right from the jump, including in that Tokyo series,

558
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: which are regular season games that count. All right, let's

559
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: get some other stories here, Todd father, did you see

560
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: this one on Tyler Naquin, who's you know, kind of

561
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: a veteran position player who fell out a little bit

562
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: and couldn't find a job anymore, trying a different job

563
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Guardians as a pitcher minor league contract. He was always

564
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: a guy that had a cannon arm and it wasn't

565
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: just visually stackass numbers. I think he was upper upper

566
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: echelon where you're like, Okay, this dude's like ninety eight

567
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent tile arm strength. So they're like, can

568
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: we see it on a mound. I don't know if

569
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: he's pitched this in the past, probably in high school, whatever,

570
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: but worth a shot.

571
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: Get him on the bump, get him on a bomp.

572
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: We see these guys all the time that come back

573
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: as knuckleball pitchers, if you want the truth, I mean

574
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 4: other than you know, I think of Rick and Keel.

575
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 4: There's been some others, but he's like the most notable

576
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: one that I can remember coming back as a picture

577
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: and you know, dominating picture hitter kind of deal. But yeah,

578
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: I would love to see him on the bump and

579
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: see what he's got. I don't know exactly where he's

580
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: going to start in the minor leagues. Usually you start

581
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: on the lower tier and work your way up, but yeah,

582
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: why not get paid a little bit and maybe it

583
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: works out and you know, you find you know, a

584
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: rose and the thorn here. So again, you do see

585
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: some guys that you warm up with, you like, dude,

586
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: I would love to see you on the bumper. A

587
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 4: guy that comes in in the ninth down fifteen runs

588
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: and you're like, he just hit ninety two, Like what

589
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: are going on here? So yeah, let's check him out.

590
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Charlie Colberson tried it, you know, didn't quite work for

591
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: him to make it, and it was a pretty quick

592
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: attempt and a shift there. You know one name that

593
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily super well known, but he is still throwing it.

594
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: I think he's in camp with the Mets right now.

595
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: But Anthony Ghost, I mean he hasn't pitched a ton.

596
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

597
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: This was a position player who ended up getting some

598
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: time in the BIGS. I mean six appearances in twenty one,

599
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: a little more in twenty twenty two. Let's see twenty

600
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: two appearances in twenty twenty two, and then last year

601
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: with Cleveland made a few appearances in the Big So

602
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: Todd Fither, you know how hard it is to make

603
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: it just in one facet of the game, to actually

604
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: then have the game tell you you're kind of done

605
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: or you're not good enough. On the position player side,

606
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: eight years for Naquin and then for him to try

607
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: and get back in it like this. If you can

608
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: even just crack the big leagues, that's insane.

609
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be insane. It'd be really cool to

610
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: see this. They're good stories too, man. These guys, you know,

611
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: come back and throw and all of a sudden they're,

612
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: you know, two white players. You can always say you

613
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: did both, but it's so hard to do. The pitching's

614
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: got to be so super super good, and these guys

615
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: are throwing ninety five plus with some stank commaning balls

616
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: go which way I left and right? So good luck,

617
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: good luck to him, Scotty. How do we back Sodo

618
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: Scott either day to day or hit me with the futures?

619
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Speaker 2: Okay, So for Juan Soto, I obviously think he's going

620
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: to do this again, just like he did last year.

621
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: I think that he plays in every ballpark. This is

622
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: someone who's so advanced. He's a top three hitter in

623
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: the sport. Last year, I smashed the over on his

624
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: home run total. I'm going to do it again, even

625
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: though it's a pitcher's park in New York, Alex I'm

626
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: not going to fall for this again. There were a

627
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: lot of projections. Oh, here's what statcast says. He only

628
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: hits this many homers if he goes to Yankee Stadium,

629
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: it was trash. Juan Soto knows where the fences are.

630
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: He can adjust his approach to hit home runs, and

631
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: he can do that without sacrificing The batting average two

632
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 2: eighty eight nowadays is well well above average. So I'm

633
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: actually going to hit that home run prop again for

634
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Wan Soda this year. I think he's got a chance

635
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: to get close to that four number. All right, how

636
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: did I do? Todd Father? Do you agree?

637
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: I thought it was trash?

638
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Remember last year when they were like, oh God says

639
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: this is how his power is going to play in

640
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium.

641
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was unbelievable. I think you're spot on with this.

642
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: People understand this guy. It doesn't matter what ball park

643
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: he's in. He can go left field, he and go

644
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: center field, he can go right field. He's going to

645
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: mash the ball. You saw it first at bat in

646
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: spring training once again for another New York team going deep.

647
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: He is going to be spectacular and he's going to

648
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: exceed expectations in my opinion, and anything really home runs, especially,

649
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: I think he'll do just fine.

650
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why for me, Bet MGM regular season home

651
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: runs thirty three and a half. As long as he's

652
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: on the field, healthy, Todd, Father, that's an over for me, baby,

653
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Did I explain it right? Even though it sounds kind

654
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: of dumb. From the field, he knows where the fences

655
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: are and he actually is a guy who can manipulate

656
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: not only the way that he hits the baseball, but

657
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: the power game too, right.

658
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he knows who's pitching. He knows

659
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: where to manipulate it and where he needs to hit

660
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: the ball depending on, you know, the tilt of the

661
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: baseball and what arm angles and how the guy's pitching.

662
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: So if for you guys throwing a two steamer that

663
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: runs away, he's either going to try and clip him

664
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: out in front if it's in, or he's gonna let

665
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: it travel and go to left field. So he's very

666
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: smart baseball player. He's strong, he's got a big build,

667
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: and he's got the hands to do anything he really

668
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: wants with that baseball bat.

669
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Speaker 2: Boom, there you go, all right, bet MGM fam you

670
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Speaker 2: can win a share fifty thousand dollars in bonus bets

671
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Speaker 2: with the Sunday Splash jackpot. Obviously, Hoop's going to take

672
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Speaker 2: center stage for a little bit here as we're getting ready,

673
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Speaker 2: of course for the regular season MLB wise, So go

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Speaker 2: check that out. BETMGM app or BETMGM dot com to

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Speaker 2: learn more information. Gambling problem or concern called one eight

676
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Speaker 2: hundred gambler. It's spring training, Todd, but six punchies for

677
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 2: Brian wu in two and a third Mariners will take it.

678
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: I know they got to keep this guy on the

679
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: bump consistently, but when they do, he can be a

680
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: one or two starter. You know, it's crazy. That's why

681
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: the Mariners are so ridiculous. And we covered this yesterday.

682
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it all, but Justin

683
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Turner blasted the team for not putting much into the

684
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: off season for back to back years. But your thoughts

685
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 2: on this, dude?

686
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually saw him pitching in New York when

687
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: he faced the Yankees when he first kind of coming up,

688
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: and I was impressed if fastball was heavy. You know,

689
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 4: it's one of those days as a baseball player, as

690
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: a hitter, you're like, all right, you know, we got

691
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: this new guy coming up, young buck, it's gonna be

692
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: a good day. And then you get in the box

693
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: and you're like, man, fastball's getting on you. His slider

694
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: is filthy, and he's got this presence about him, like damn,

695
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: I basically wasted a day. You know, zero for three,

696
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: you know with a walker, you know, one for four,

697
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: you know, barely got a knockoff here. You're like, man,

698
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: you know, this isn't an easy day. He throws hard

699
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: as fastballs, heavy, smooth as silk, and if healthy, he's

700
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: gonna be stud And I think he's going to be

701
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: a really good picture midline pitcher. And for the Mariners

702
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: it's just another notch on their belt with their pitching staff.

703
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: So again, be careful about him, but be sure. He's

704
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: a really really good picture.

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: And the Mariners have some of that raise vibe with

706
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: some of their starters where it's just like dude, Brian Wu,

707
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: your stuff plays in the zone. You don't need to

708
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: beat around the bush. And he doesn't. Right he's in

709
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: the zone. He's attack mode. The four seam up, was cranking,

710
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: the sweeper, slider, change up, the whole thing. He's got

711
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: it all. So they just want to figure out how

712
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: to consistently keep him on the mound. You see all

713
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: the Barry bonds talk that he gets still easily smash

714
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour coming at him. And then

715
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Andrew McCutcheon had that long tweet about how he was

716
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: in the cage with him before a game twenty eighteen,

717
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: taking BP said, normally before a game, when you're out

718
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: of the blue, decides he wants to take swing. Steps

719
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: in the cage, slacks and dress shoes. First hit, patented bunt,

720
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: next pitch, huge hack. He said, you could hear the

721
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: whip of his bat unlike anything I've seen at the

722
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: present time, slips from the torque, the slippery dress shoes

723
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: on the turf, and the ball goes straight up into

724
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 2: the net above him. So now there was a TV

725
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: that was about five feet above the net of our cage.

726
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Balls hit so hard hit the TV screen shattered it.

727
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: He said, bald didn't go through a hole of any sort,

728
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: and net just stretched far enough because the bomb's power.

729
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: I say all of that, say this, I believe him

730
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: because he said one hundreds easy for him.

731
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: Still believe it. I listen, I say this, he's probably not.

732
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: Probably he's the best hitter to ever set foot in

733
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: Major League baseball. Say what you want to say about

734
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: the guy. I mean, look at the numbers. He just

735
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: had to step foot in the box and he was

736
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: basically getting on first base. And then when he did swing,

737
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 4: choke up swing a thirty two inch bat, it wasn't

738
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: even the longest bat. The barrel was so big all

739
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: he had to do was touch it. He was so strong,

740
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: absolute beast, absolute stud of a hitter. And if he's

741
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: as he could still do it.

742
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I believe I recommend anyone to type in Barry Bond's

743
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: foul territory as well when you're searching for clips later,

744
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: because we had a great conversation with him. Yeah, he

745
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: was really good. He spoke about some of this, Oh

746
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: I could handle whatever now.

747
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: You know.

748
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: We're like, can you handle the pitching now versus what

749
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: you were dealing with, And he was like, of course,

750
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: if you're at this level, you can figure out how

751
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: to adjust to what is getting thrown your way. Right,

752
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: less heater is obviously more velocity, stuff like that. So

753
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: dude is a legend, and obviously he's in great shape. Still.

754
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: I was next to him, Todd father, I mean, he

755
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: looks the same age, he's in the same shape.

756
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of those guys that you know you

757
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: don't see too often. He talked about it, but he

758
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 4: also walked about it. This guy he preached what he

759
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: wanted to do before a game, and guess what, he

760
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 4: executed it every time. He's a great philosopher about hitting,

761
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: and he can break down your and make you feel like,

762
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, break it down like you're in fifth grade,

763
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: so you can understand too as well. He understands the

764
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: art of hitting. He understands how to hit. One of

765
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: the most clutch hitters and one of the most dominant

766
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: hitters in baseball to ever play this game. And if

767
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: you're one of those hitters, I'm sitting back and listening

768
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 4: and I'm taking notes as well.

769
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: His money for managers Todd Father. So we actually didn't

770
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: get to this, but I saw the money come out

771
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: in the last like twenty four to forty eight hours.

772
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Boone got his extension, so he's got three years

773
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: fifteen mill left. He's getting four and a half this year,

774
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: five and then five and a half million dollars. That's

775
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: certainly nice money. But Craig Counsel signed a forty million

776
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: dollar contract over five years, so he's getting eight. So

777
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: he's almost double that salary of Boonie. And then there

778
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: are extension rumors for Doc Roberts that are circulating and

779
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: sounding like he is going to be the highest paid manager,

780
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: which makes sense. You can all say the Dodgers have

781
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: it all on paper, but Doc has had a consistent

782
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: winner for a long time. He is beloved among the

783
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: clubhouse members obviously, from front office all the way down

784
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: to players, staff, et cetera. He has just got it

785
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: all working. So he deserves Todd Father in my mind,

786
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: to be at least a ten million dollars a year

787
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: manager and over at least five years because he's flat

788
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: out been a better performance guy than Craig Counsel. And

789
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: I know he's got more to work with on paper,

790
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: but still you actually have to deliver on the results.

791
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's been delivering. He's been going here as

792
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: a manager each year as he's going forward. Yeah, this

793
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: is his second World championship in baseball. He's a guy

794
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: that has his player. The players have his back. He

795
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: has his players back. He has a really good team,

796
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: and you know, the expectations are just as high, and

797
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: I think it's just going to happen the same way.

798
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: It's going to be you know, it's not going to

799
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: be back to the drawing board. It's going to be

800
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: the same old song and dance for him. He's got

801
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: a great ball club. He expected a lot of his players.

802
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: He is a great manager. He has a good coaching

803
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: staff too as well. They all buy into his plan.

804
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: And that's what he's going to keep doing it and

805
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 4: doing it. And he definitely deserves a lot more money,

806
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 4: and it is looming. We should know here pretty soon

807
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 4: what he's going to get, and he should be getting

808
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: or expecting a lot more on the table for sure.

809
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: And Boonie's underpaid in my mind. AJ, Yeah, yeah, I

810
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: agree to bother, you know, four and five, five and

811
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: a half, whatever it is. I mean, Doc's going to

812
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: be getting ten plus and Council's getting eight plus. To me,

813
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: it was got, you know, closer to a seven eight

814
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: something like that, at least close to ten. That's my take.

815
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Yankees went to the World Series this past season.

816
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: They don't always have a perfect roster either, you know.

817
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: The Dodgers I think usually have a better look on paper.

818
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.

819
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: That's what he said.

820
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: That's what he said.

821
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: That's what he said, we got the pretty and the ugly.

822
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: We're going to start with the ugly first. Although some

823
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: people might say this is great news, I don't know

824
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: the dude personally. Mark Badin, who was the guy who

825
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: brought the Raiders over to Vegas from Oakland, is taken

826
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: over the role from Dave caval as president of the A's.

827
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: He left the Raiders with some controversy in twenty twenty one,

828
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: and he does have experience in bringing a team over

829
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: from one city, Oakland to Vegas, so this does make

830
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: sense in some ways on paper. I will definitely bring

831
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: up the news that I don't know enough about, but

832
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: you can read about it in stories like The New

833
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: York Times, The Athletic, etc. Because he handled that Raiders

834
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: move in twenty twenty, he left one year later. He,

835
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: from what I read, was essentially forced to resign along

836
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: with the CFO and the controller, which deals with taxes

837
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: and other stuff that I don't understand. But owner Mark

838
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Davis of the Raiders said it was because of quote

839
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: accounting irregularities, including overpaying on taxes, so it just sounds

840
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: like there was some shady stuff going on there. He

841
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: did claim twenty twenty eight is still the plan. All right,

842
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I gotta get my joke in here for to aj

843
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: so shady situation that's got to be on the resume.

844
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: John Fisher, owner of the A's, is like he brought

845
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 2: a team from Oakland, Vegas and he's got some shady

846
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: history to his name. Did we just become best friends? Yes?

847
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: They Lets not forget this guy blasted the A's not

848
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: long ago? Was it twenty twenty three? There it is

849
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: where he said, yeah, you expect the level of honesty

850
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: and professionalism from them that just ate there doesn't exist.

851
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, John Fisher must

852
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: have thought this was the only way he can get the

853
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: stadium done. And I've read up on this, and if

854
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: the stadium is one point seventy five billion allegedly and

855
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: the team has access to only three hundred and eighty million,

856
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: where the heck is the other one point five almost

857
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: one point five billion coming from? Because I don't think

858
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: John Fisher has that. So, I mean, I think he

859
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: got help get the money for the Legion Stadium where

860
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders play.

861
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: That's why they brought it in.

862
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: He must have some connections there in Vegas to public funding,

863
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: private funding private equity, whatever it is in order to

864
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: get Fisher over the finish line. Because I'm gonna say

865
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: until I'm blue in the face, until I actually see

866
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: one of those big things cranes come in and start

867
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: lifting during there's there's you know, pylons going into the ground.

868
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna believe it.

869
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: And I'm big on word usage. He says, a level

870
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: of honesty and professionalism. Yeah, they need that. They need

871
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: that big time over there at the A's and they

872
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: need to figure it out soon. No doubts on all that.

873
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: One being asked about the stadium opening twenty twenty eight

874
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: per quotes. We'll see, like A J said, like I'm

875
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: you know when when my financial guy says, yeah, we

876
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: might have this coming through this and that the percentage,

877
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: well I need to see it on paper. I need

878
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: to see the check. You know what I'm saying. So

879
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: see it ends believing in my opinion. And we will

880
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: see as the time moves on here with DA's and

881
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: how they're going to be on the field, off the

882
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: field money wise, business wide. Are they gonna have a structure.

883
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: We will see that. Yeah.

884
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Ironically call a team out.

885
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: He's the one who got in trouble for regularities.

886
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: I got more for everyone. So in this time story

887
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: that was in twenty twenty two, they said Raiders employees

888
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: saw numerous problems large and small in the organization, including

889
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: lax controls over how money was spent and how people

890
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: were paid. And then even they said the bungling of

891
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: the payment of taxes over several years. I'm like, great,

892
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: he's probably looking at revenue sharing all kinds of toys

893
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: that he can play with in baseball to make more

894
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: money for the team. So it is ironic to call

895
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: out the A's in twenty twenty three when in twenty

896
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: twenty one you got in trouble, and I don't think

897
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: he denied the trouble and he was forced to resign,

898
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: so to be continued, I'm sure there will be continued

899
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: entertainment from this franchise at the top.

900
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 4: Now.

901
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: I also find it ironic aj that that news comes out,

902
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: people start pointing out irregularities about the hire, and then

903
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: hours later, the great, super talented, great dude Lawrence Butler

904
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: gets his extension done. So props to him first of all,

905
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: but also that timing, in my mind, was on purpose.

906
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: But what do you think of it? Yeah, of course right,

907
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: They're like, all right, he wants an extra fumail. Let's

908
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: get it done.

909
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: Now, we got to stuff call him law dogg. I

910
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: told you Matt Lawton is low dog.

911
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me. I can't call him that. Uh,

912
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: but great for him, are you kidding me? Sixty six

913
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: point five million dollars with the A's. They signed Severino,

914
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: they traded for Jeffrey Springs, they signed Brent Rooker. Now

915
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: they've signed Lawrence Butler. Like, this is awesome for the

916
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: hey guys, here's hey buddy, He's great for uh Laurence Butler,

917
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: for the A's. I love it. I love that they're

918
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: signing guys. I love that the A's are spending money. Now,

919
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: do they have to spend the money, yes, but are

920
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: they doing doing it and signing guys and guys that

921
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: seem like good guys and guys that are talented and

922
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: good players in the A's fans wherever they're located, whether

923
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: there's Sacramento, Vegas, who else, maybe Portland? Who the heck

924
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: knows where they're going to be, But way to go,

925
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: A's and congratulations Warren Butler, Lawrence Butler, your.

926
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: Step for life.

927
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, money contract signed to do. I love that, love that,

928
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 4: no messing around. You know, you probably could have went higher,

929
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: but sometimes you got to just say to your agent, listen,

930
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm I'm fine with this. Let's go move on now.

931
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: He's set their life boom spot on.

932
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: He's got star potential. I mean, he looked like that

933
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: in the second half of the year and it was

934
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: a big reason why the A's were kind of a

935
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: problem in the second half of the season. We like

936
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: the team, Hey, we'll smash the business moves all day,

937
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: but as far as what they've put together now with

938
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: the rebuild, it's starting to look pretty good. And you've

939
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: got some guys here long term rookers going to be

940
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: there for years now. Butler's going to be there for

941
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: years now. And he's in a great example of someone

942
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: who's had all the tools come together at least average,

943
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: if not above average in the outfield, and then the

944
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: bat in my mind as like number three, number four

945
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: hitter potential there and we saw that in the second half.

946
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: So anyway, props to the A's rights.

947
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, rooting for the A's by the way to make

948
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year because I want to see where

949
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: they play in the playoffs, kind of like the.

950
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: Rays not gonna lie.

951
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to see where these two teams that are,

952
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, not big if they get to the postseason

953
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: where they play the postseason games, because we know ten

954
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: and twelve thousand seat stadiums for the postseason is not

955
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: going to be ideal for Major League bays.

956
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: That's true.

957
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people that don't have one particular team

958
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: root for chaos, which is just fun. It's entertaining, right,

959
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: it's a reality show. I'm with you both. I am

960
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: rooting for an A's Rays matchup at some point in

961
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I'll take one of them in there. But

962
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you the A's will be the more crazy

963
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: situation because they're not going to be able to just hop, don't.

964
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where they would go, right, It's not

965
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: like there's anything big enough in the Sacramento area to

966
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: be able to hold them. Are they going to go

967
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: back to Oakland? I doubt that they're going to.

968
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: Play in San Francisco. Yeah.

969
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: So anyway, ft fam, thanks for the extended time. Hope

970
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. Awesome awesome job from the Raised pr

971
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: and their players, coach and their front office leader as well,

972
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: Eric Neander All for joining us on FT. We'll see

973
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: you next week from sunny Arizona, the desert. There it is. Dodgers,

974
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: d Backs, Rangers, White Sox. A's pack your bags, AJ

975
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: Already, Let's do it.