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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory with you.

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Speaker 2: Joshua P. Warren back with us. Spent more than twenty

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Speaker 2: years breaking ground in the paranormal and he does the

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Speaker 2: best on it. Joshua is considered an expert on ghost ufoscryptids,

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Speaker 2: psychic phenomena, time warps, and everything that presses forth the

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Speaker 2: boundaries of normal reality. We're going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: sigils tonight, in addition to many other paranormal things. And

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Speaker 2: I want you to get up to Coast tocoastdam dot

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Speaker 2: com in the highlight reel and take a look at

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Speaker 2: what josh has sent to us. He's also on the

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Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network with his show called Strange Things. Mister Warren,

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Speaker 2: welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you George. It is always a thrill to.

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Speaker 1: Be with you.

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Speaker 2: How have you been.

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Speaker 3: I have been doing very well. I haven't melted yet,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact I'm here in Las Vegas and I

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Speaker 3: was just telling Tom off the air. Oddly enough, I

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Speaker 3: am cold here more often than I'm hot because people

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Speaker 3: go so overboard with the air conditioning. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know whether we're short sleeves or long sleeves, but I've

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Speaker 3: been out in the desert hunting UFOs. I have new

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Speaker 3: haunted objects in my house, which is something that I

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Speaker 3: try to avoid, but they just keep finding away here.

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Speaker 3: And I have a brand new laboratory to produce sigils.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot happening right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into sigils in a moment. Your land is

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Speaker 2: close to Area fifty one, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Yes? It is.

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Speaker 3: Rachel Nevada is the settlement closest to Area fifty one,

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Speaker 3: and last year I purchased acres of land when they,

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Speaker 3: much my surprise, came up for sale right there near

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Speaker 3: the boundary of Area fifty one, and I got it

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Speaker 3: strictly to do experiments and research. I want to make

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Speaker 3: it very clear I am absolutely doing nothing to impose

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Speaker 3: upon the government work. I'm not trying to snoop into

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Speaker 3: what they're doing or to interfere or trespas. I just

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Speaker 3: know that that entire area as a paranormal history going

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Speaker 3: back thousands of years. I mean there are petriglyfts around

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Speaker 3: there of what is called paranagat man, which looks like

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Speaker 3: an alien wearing this bizarre, you know, astronaut costume or outfit.

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Speaker 3: And the only place you find paranagat man is in

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Speaker 3: that area around Area fifty one. You've got ghost towns there.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole paranormal legacy there, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons that Area fifty one was built there.

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Speaker 3: But as you probably know, I've kept you somewhat updated

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Speaker 3: on this. I am currently building, for the first time ever,

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Speaker 3: what is intended to be a portal opening machine, and

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Speaker 3: the plan is to test this out in the desert

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Speaker 3: on my property and to see if I can create

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Speaker 3: some kind of a paranormal effect out in the area

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Speaker 3: around Area fifty one.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, Josh, be careful. Who knows what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen with that thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm going to give you some breaking

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Speaker 3: news on a couple of things here tonight. For one thing,

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Speaker 3: I have a prototype almost finished that's a quarter skill

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Speaker 3: for this machine. And it turns out that building a

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Speaker 3: portal opening machine is not easy.

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Speaker 2: I would not think so.

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Speaker 3: I kind of I figured that might be the case,

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Speaker 3: but I said to myself, this is going to probably

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Speaker 3: take me a few years. I've only been working on

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Speaker 3: that had slowed me down was the supply chain, because

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Speaker 3: I need some rather exotic components from various parts of

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about here, I have decided to use everything

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Speaker 3: wealth physics and metaphysics and radionics and psionics and psychotronics

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Speaker 3: and sacred geometry and put it all together into this

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Speaker 3: of course tell people how I'm planning to put all

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Speaker 3: maybe I won't. I might keep it a secret. If

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Speaker 3: it works. If it works too well, it might be

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Speaker 2: Let's hope we don't hear a story of you disappearing

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Speaker 2: through a portal and never coming back.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it is certainly interesting that a lot

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Speaker 3: Nevada Triangle. As a matter of fact, there have been

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Speaker 3: more disappearances here than there have been in the so

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Speaker 3: in the Bermuda Triangle and do research there. The Nevada

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Speaker 3: so in that space, I think about over two thousand

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Speaker 3: airplanes have vanished over the past sixty years. And if

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Speaker 3: just Steve Fawcett disappeared in that area. And so there

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Speaker 3: wonder if that's part of what these natural portals do.

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Speaker 3: And when you crank up one of these machines, that

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Speaker 3: you might slip into some other realm, and who knows

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Speaker 1: Realm might be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, give us an update before we get indo schedules

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Speaker 2: in your work. And Robert the Haunted Doll.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm so glad that you asked me all

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Speaker 3: But oh yeah, you know he. Before I did that, George,

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Speaker 3: I just found it very difficult to believe that a

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Speaker 3: back with a whole new opinion because I do believe

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Speaker 3: They become somehow animated, almost like that a human body

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Speaker 3: when I went down there, people were terrified of Robert,

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Speaker 3: and I've continued researching him since then. I even wrote

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Speaker 3: And the thing I learned was that, for one thing,

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Speaker 3: being respectful, they're asking his permission before they take a

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Speaker 3: of made them their way into my life. And I

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Speaker 3: a Paranormal Vegas show, where we take out haunted and

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Speaker 3: it's safe to report that Robert is doing well, But

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Speaker 3: there are other haunted dolls out there. It's it's true,

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Speaker 2: Is Robert still in that glass case down there, Yes

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Speaker 3: He's still in the glass case at the East Fort

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Speaker 3: He looks very peaceful. To me. I think he has

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Speaker 3: You know, the expression varies from person to person. But

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Speaker 3: why we think he now had some kind of a

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Speaker 3: the sigil research. So I think whoever whoever modified Robert

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Speaker 3: they they filled it, which that's what sigil means. Sigil

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Speaker 3: and this is pretty well documented in some books out there,

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Speaker 3: at a certain point there was a falling out between

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Speaker 3: she was the main caretaker of their little boy. And

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Speaker 3: his name was was Robert Otto, and so he loved

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Speaker 3: this doll that they also named Robert. His name was Robert,

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Speaker 3: something that did not harm the little boy, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: the point that over time it consumed him. And you

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Speaker 3: him psychologically. It kind of eventually ran the family into

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Speaker 3: the ground because he was attached to this doll until

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Speaker 3: he was an adult. But that was the whole stem

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Speaker 3: of this situation, is this problem between Robert's, the little boy,

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Speaker 2: Now, he wasn't haunted prior to that, was he?

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Speaker 3: No, there's no reason to believe that as a matter

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Speaker 3: of fact. The original Steif doll, though, it did look

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Speaker 3: pretty creepy. Uh. It had a little clown outfit on it,

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Speaker 3: and I know you love clowns.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the top tops on my list.

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Speaker 3: If you think Robert looks creepy, now, George, if you

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Speaker 3: saw if you had an illustration, and I'm sure they're

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Speaker 3: out there of how he originally looked, you would probably

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Speaker 3: find him even spookier, because, yeah, he had he had

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Speaker 3: like a little pointy hat and an outfit that had

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Speaker 3: a little I think they'd call him like pom poms

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Speaker 3: or whatever, and just a little creepy looking clown dude.

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Speaker 3: But you know, see the little boy, Robert the little boy,

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Speaker 3: he was into sailors and the sea and all that,

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Speaker 3: and so the clown outfit was transformed into a little

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Speaker 3: sailor outfit. And then the Robert the little boy had

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Speaker 3: his favorite animal, which was lions, and so they got

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Speaker 3: a little stuff lion and they added that to Robert

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Speaker 3: the doll. And so all these little pieces were put

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Speaker 3: together to personalize the doll so that now it not

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Speaker 3: dressed the way the little boy would like to be dressed.

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Speaker 3: It's got the lion that the little boy would like

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Speaker 3: to play with. And they did everything possible, at least,

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Speaker 3: this woman did everything possible in order to capture the essence,

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Speaker 3: the very spirit of this child in this doll, and

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Speaker 3: then to use it in probably ways that we'll never

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Speaker 2: Family Josh, do you find that during times of strife

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Speaker 2: worldwide the episodes of paranormal activity increases.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, the thing about paranormal activity is, to

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Speaker 3: a certain extent, a lot of it is human based.

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Speaker 3: In other words, humans are very powerful batteries. And that's

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Speaker 3: why we're so extraordinary and mysterious, because even though we

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Speaker 3: complex and amazing than the human brain. And we still

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Speaker 3: don't understand exactly the mind body connection, especially the mind

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Speaker 3: it's very mysterious that dolls can sometimes take on life.

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Speaker 3: But getting back to humans, we are electrical machines, and

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Speaker 3: you can measure the human bio energy filled when a

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Speaker 3: is a huge surge of energy that just shoots out

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Speaker 3: You fill your heart, jump in your chest. And so

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Speaker 3: when people are stressed, they start producing this very high

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Speaker 3: these extreme biofrequencies that start to irritate all the electrical

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Speaker 3: and electromagnetic electrostatic fields in an entire environment. And when

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Speaker 3: you start rattling up an environment, that's when paramormal phenomena

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Speaker 3: even notice something paramormal going on in their lives. But

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Speaker 3: people who are high strung, maybe more neurotic, especially people

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are in some cases it's a lot

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Speaker 3: lot more aware of what's going on, but I think

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Speaker 3: they can also create it because they're in energy is

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Speaker 3: being expressed in such a way that it can not

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Speaker 3: only trigger things in an almost telekinetic way, but sometimes

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Speaker 3: it kills them. That's why they have heart attacks. They

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Speaker 3: don't live as long because they just wear themselves out.

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