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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: The new top twenty five came out Ohio State, Penn State, LSU, Oregon, Miami,

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Speaker 2: Georgia in there. Can we check and see where South

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Speaker 2: Florida is, because when I mentioned this this morning, that

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Speaker 2: is South Florida in the top ten. The looks that

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Speaker 2: I got back from everybody was like, what, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 3: South Florida.

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Speaker 4: In two different polls, they are twenty third in one poll,

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Speaker 4: in ranked number eighteenth in another.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with these voters? You beat Boise State

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Speaker 2: and beat Florida. Is that the problem?

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Speaker 5: My bulls?

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Speaker 2: They got it wrong, my bull Yes, my South Florida bulls.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I know that you think I lead

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Speaker 2: this great life, and sometimes I do. Last night I

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Speaker 2: was watching the BYU Stanford re air Rear. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: BYU's got a quarterback is numbers forty seven, and I go,

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Speaker 2: all right, Andrew Luck on the sidelines and this kid's

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Speaker 2: I think a true freshman, And it looked Okay, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's fun. It's interesting to see a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We're number forty seven. Yes, Paul, I'm going to back

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Speaker 2: you on this.

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Speaker 6: You're not desperate and alone watching football. You are watching

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Speaker 6: football because you can't watch all the games on Saturdays

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Speaker 6: and ever years are kind of fun to learn about teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and especially for if you're a voter or a Heisman voter,

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Speaker 6: you should be well versed.

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Speaker 2: I think this guy is his first name is Bear Awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but number forty seven?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Ton, But.

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Speaker 8: Isn't there something to be said about taking one or

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Speaker 8: two days off, especially these next few months. We've got

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Speaker 8: to pace ourselves. If you're gonna use Tuesday under a

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Speaker 8: Wednesday to rewatch games or watch games that you happen

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Speaker 8: to miss, then you're gonna have no break. Ever, it's

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Speaker 8: going to be seven days a week. And as much

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Speaker 8: as we love sports, sometimes you need a little family

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Speaker 8: time or take a nap or something.

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Speaker 3: This is This is called homework. It's called preparation.

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Speaker 9: We're going to talk a lot of BYU football today.

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Speaker 8: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, maybe we talked Andrew Luck and

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Speaker 2: Stanford and they didn't look good. So maybe Frank Reich

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Speaker 2: isn't the head coach there next year. Maybe Andrew Lucky is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Tod.

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Speaker 9: Those are valid topics.

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Speaker 3: Thank you each other.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but I was just you know, going through

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I go, okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: watch a little bit of b YU. There nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with that, Todd. You can't watch Ohio State every weekend.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 8: I was just concerned for you to have a little break,

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Speaker 8: you know, the time with the wife or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 8: a day or two where you're like, no football because

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Speaker 8: the other five days we're going to be swimming in Well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you for worrying about my

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Speaker 2: social life at home.

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Speaker 9: Got for a night's dinner, you know, Light a candle,

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Speaker 9: a little intimacy or whatever. Don't worry about the.

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Speaker 5: By you re aired.

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Speaker 9: Light a candle, set the mood, dim the lights, whatever

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Speaker 9: you guys do.

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Speaker 5: It's not my business.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I was setting the mood with BYU against.

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Speaker 8: By I'm about to try that sometime we are of

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Speaker 8: a college football game, see what I get.

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Speaker 9: But I'm doing some fars of work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, fall, but the South Florida thing is kind of

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Speaker 6: semi real. If they can beat Miami this weekend, they

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Speaker 6: become the lovable team, like you know, Arizona State last year,

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Speaker 6: SMU last year.

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Speaker 3: Or Boise State that's right.

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Speaker 2: They could be a top ten team if they beat

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Speaker 2: Miami their top ten team?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Okay everybody? Okay, I'm in early on that.

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Speaker 6: They won't get top ten. They won't crack the top

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Speaker 6: ten by it if they beat Miami. They I'm not

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Speaker 6: saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they won't. They people like

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Speaker 6: to tiptoe for a lovable new team to be the

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Speaker 6: top ten. If they beat Miami, they're looking at a

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Speaker 6: nice fourteen spot and that's fantastic in September.

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Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, yeah, agree, because we don't even know if

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Speaker 10: Miami is real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 10: Well, they don't know that Notre Dame is real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. They're ranked higher than South Florida and

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Speaker 2: they haven't won a game yet. These poles are always weird.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know that first pole that should come

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Speaker 2: out should come out in October because we and we

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Speaker 2: do this all the time the preseason where we rank

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Speaker 2: some in North Carolina was the number one team in

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Speaker 2: America preseason for basketball. They didn't make the tournament. Okay,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, they didn't play well, but all the voters

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Speaker 2: who put North Carolina number one didn't do well either.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't know, let's just put the blue bloods

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Speaker 2: up there, and then all of a sudden they don't

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Speaker 2: perform as well as they shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Then we go, oh, man, what happened to you guys?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Guys, are the ones who ranked us higher than we

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Speaker 2: probably should have been, Yes, Todd, it proves the same.

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Speaker 9: You don't want to end up on the poll. There

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Speaker 9: you go. I thought that was a great line. I'm

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Speaker 9: really disappointed. I can get a reaction.

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Speaker 8: It's it's it's like a it's like a jinx to

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Speaker 8: be on the pole.

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Speaker 9: You don't want to be on the poll. Youn't want

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Speaker 9: your kids on the pole. You don't want to be.

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Speaker 7: On the poll.

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Speaker 3: You want to be on the poll if you're a team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but if they if they overrank you and then

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, like you just said, they're not

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Speaker 8: performing well, they made us the number six team in

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Speaker 8: the country and we lost our first two games.

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Speaker 9: You don't want to end up on the poll in

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Speaker 9: the beginning. You don't want to be on the poll. Okay,

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Speaker 9: pol Or you said, I s it's just not funny.

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Speaker 3: I need you to slow down. Okay, I need you.

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Speaker 3: I'm being honest.

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Speaker 9: I think I may have taken the wrong medication.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna blame Paulie for having eye surgery yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I heard it was wild.

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Speaker 9: Yes, it was his fault because I got a little loose.

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Speaker 3: You got loose, and you're still loose.

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Speaker 9: And I've got a calm down.

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Speaker 2: And then he's, you know, singing Beatles songs right in

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Speaker 2: my face because he's mocking me.

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Speaker 3: He's trolling me.

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Speaker 2: Got the Beatles sweatshirt he's talking about when he was

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Speaker 2: in high school driving around trying to pick up girls.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't just the singing.

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Speaker 8: I took my finger and I kind of pointed in

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Speaker 8: your eye and I made like a little concentric circles

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Speaker 8: in your face.

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Speaker 9: You didn't like the finger in the seat.

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Speaker 10: There are days that I wonder if Todd's medication is balanced.

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Speaker 7: Today is one of those days, and it's not.

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Speaker 10: The telltale sign is whenever Todd is talking and he's

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Speaker 10: going really fast, but he ends up flying, his words

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Speaker 10: are flying, and then what happens.

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Speaker 7: Is he.

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Speaker 5: Runs out of air.

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Speaker 10: Eddie's laughing while doing that. That to when you know, like,

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Speaker 10: oh boy, this dude is really one right now, He's like.

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Speaker 2: B And it wasn't just me who said something to you.

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Speaker 2: Marvin wanted to know if you were on drugs and

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Speaker 2: Setan questioned what was going on.

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Speaker 9: It's a little frightening for.

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Speaker 8: Me too, because sometimes I think I'm gonna bite my

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Speaker 8: like really fast.

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Speaker 9: But I got to settle down a little bit, just

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Speaker 9: a long show minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I want you to pace yourself. Okay.

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Speaker 8: I've been getting a lot of extra sleep little and

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Speaker 8: wearing that the seatpap thing you know for the sleep

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Speaker 8: app near or the air is springing your up your

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Speaker 8: nose and your mouth to make sure you don't die

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Speaker 8: in your sleep.

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Speaker 9: It's a I think that's helped.

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Speaker 10: I got overly oxygenated.

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Speaker 8: I think I think got it because all I took

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Speaker 8: was like a centrum silver.

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Speaker 9: And like a calcium pill. I wouldn't do this to.

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Speaker 4: Me, Yes, Marvin, well, maybe he should take a Flintstone's

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Speaker 4: kids vitaimin next time.

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Speaker 10: It was silver part of the thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, centrum silver for those of us fifty and above.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, center like they.

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Speaker 8: Put a couple extra things in there for extra zinc

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Speaker 8: and copper in your bloodstream or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Seed wants the whole question today.

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Speaker 10: So glad you asked, where should Florida be ranked?

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Speaker 3: Top ten?

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Speaker 10: Eleven, twenty one plus?

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Speaker 5: Who saw that coming?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are there bowls in South Florida?

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Speaker 6: It's a hotbed of livestock.

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Speaker 3: The only bowl in South Florida is Michael Jordan. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, giving that to you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to give you.

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Speaker 10: That one, right, Todd at a boy kid, all right, Todd, you.

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Speaker 3: Mess with the bull and you get these Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 9: I'm not just going to follow the group. I have

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Speaker 9: my own independent opinion.

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Speaker 2: Do we do? We have?

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Speaker 5: What? Marvin?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, you were talking about South Florida? Like they'd beat

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Speaker 4: Urban Myers Florida Gators. They beat Billy naviy Ors Florida Gators.

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Speaker 3: I'd like the underdog. I like the little guy.

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Speaker 9: Oh so do I would you say?

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Speaker 7: Top ten?

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Speaker 5: Me?

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Speaker 9: And Seton looked at you like top ten in Florida?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 10: I mean I'm not exactly the gatekeeper of all college

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Speaker 10: football polls, but that seems like a stretch this early and.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right.

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Speaker 2: I think because they're they're called South Florida that hurts them.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like, where is it South Florida. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it's down, it's down south bottom part Yeah, yes.

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Speaker 6: Yes, directional schools have an upward track. So like last year,

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Speaker 6: Northern Illinois takes down Notre Dame, everyone's into Northern Illinois.

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Speaker 6: It was a September game. It was a big, big

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Speaker 6: deal for Northern Illinois. I think they lost the next weekend,

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Speaker 6: so like they didn't even last a week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But meanwhile though, then interesting part of that is that

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Speaker 10: if Florida was actually two states and there was in

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Speaker 10: North Florida and South Florida sort of like the Carolinas,

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Speaker 10: they would be fine. South Carolina. They don't get called

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Speaker 10: the directional school because that's state school is South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: That's a good, good call, you know.

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Speaker 10: But if there was South Florida as a state and

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Speaker 10: North Florida as a state, nobody would judge South Florida

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Speaker 10: poorly for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, Marton, you know what, I'm against South Florida

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Speaker 4: already because they play in Tampa.

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Speaker 10: You just call the mid mid Florida.

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Speaker 10: Yes, the Dixon Dixon line is uh.

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Speaker 7: Really, would they.

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Speaker 3: But I think South Florida that confuses.

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Speaker 2: You're in Tallahassee near Tallahassee. Yeah, Okay, so South Florida.

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Speaker 6: Celebrity fans. Yeah, South Florida.

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Speaker 10: Going to be about thirteen more South Florida ones. I

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Speaker 10: I think that's pretty good. Okay, I'm doing a deep

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Speaker 2: Heck, let me get to Christopher in Colorado Springs. Hey, Chris, Hey, Daran.

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Speaker 11: Hey guys, hey five six fifty good, totally fulfilling a

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Speaker 11: go by. It's great. So, Dan, let me tell you

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy for you and thank you for calling in, Christopher.

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Speaker 3: I just usually on Spotify and I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: Or yes, time my song.

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Speaker 9: Is past the Chicken to the left bun tidy Tago book.

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Speaker 9: Is that not our audience? Is that not our generation?

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Speaker 9: Past the duchy?

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Speaker 10: About it past the chicken. It's like, has it down

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Speaker 9: Thank you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, how about we take a break. I might

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Speaker 3: Have PAULI, do you wish you had eye surgery a second? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wish ear surgery.

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Speaker 5: Might be more helpful.

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Speaker 3: That's just so mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There were some lines yesterday off off

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Speaker 2: By the way, South Florida is getting seventeen and a half,

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Speaker 3: For an upset South Florida against the U.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 7: Hey, what's up, everybody.

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Speaker 12: It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't

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Speaker 7: What is Up on Game?

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Speaker 2: David Carr was the number one overall pick by the

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Speaker 2: thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. What was the biggest

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Speaker 7: Ucla and Washington?

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Speaker 13: But Pat Hill was not going to have that, Dan,

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Speaker 13: you know he was gonna He rolled into my house

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Speaker 13: and he had a taped up duffel bag, sat down

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Speaker 7: I was like, Pat, we gotta get on a flight

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Speaker 13: He's like, no, you're gonna pay quarterback for me. We're

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Speaker 13: days ago with Derek and we went over and just

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Speaker 7: But he's still out there.

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Speaker 13: He's still at Fresno State holding the cards for the

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Speaker 7: So love his heart. Man, he's awesome.

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Speaker 2: More important to have a better relationship with your head

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Speaker 7: Offensive coordinator, hands down, he's the guy that he's in

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Speaker 13: The head coach. You know, if you have a defensive

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Speaker 7: And it's really unique. But the offense priinter you talk

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Speaker 2: So your debut, you didn't talk to your head coach

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Speaker 13: Like a formal meeting or nothing really exs knows wise.

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Speaker 7: How are we going to do this thing? But it

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Speaker 2: But that coordinator you're tied to and we find well,

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Speaker 2: you can look at track records with quarterbacks and go

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Speaker 2: how many offensive coordinators have they burned through or head

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, shit.

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Speaker 13: Well, Miami was obviously it was on the same field

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Speaker 13: talking about the you know, the rounding components, or are

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Speaker 13: we talking about specific players. So I think that's gonna

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Speaker 13: be the fun part as we go forward, is like,

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Speaker 13: these guys are in good situations, they're gonna play well.

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Speaker 13: These guys are in bad situations, they're not gonna play well.

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Speaker 13: Like is Jackson Dart going in in New York? Like

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Speaker 13: I don't necessarily think Jackson Dart's gonna solve your problems

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Speaker 13: that you have in New York.

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Speaker 7: So it'll be fun to watch it.

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Speaker 2: He's David Carr, NFL Network analyst. You can see him

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Speaker 2: on the NFL Game Day Final this Sunday at eleven

457
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Speaker 2: thirty am Eastern on NFL Network. When Peyton changed the game,

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Speaker 2: calling plays at the line of scrimmage, was there pressure

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Speaker 2: on other quarterbacks and offensive coordinators like we have to

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Speaker 2: do the same thing.

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Speaker 7: We tried to mimic it, like there was even a

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Speaker 7: scenario we played the Rams.

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Speaker 13: So I feel like I'm responsible for the birth of

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Speaker 13: Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Fits magic because so we're playing

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Speaker 13: the Rams at home in Houston. My offensive coordinator decides, Hey,

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Speaker 13: we're gonna let you go the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 13: call your own place. I'm like, fantastic, that's great, We're.

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Speaker 7: Gonna get one formation. So we played fast.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I didn't have a ton of them Peyton has,

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's endless his catalog that he can get to.

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Speaker 13: I had like seven plays, right, So we ran our

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Speaker 13: seven plays. We get up, we get up twenty one,

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Speaker 13: We're up like we're winning. And then we get to

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Speaker 13: the halftime and the offensive cornery comes in and he says, hey,

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Speaker 13: that was great, you know, but what we're gonna do

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Speaker 13: now is we're gonna establish the run. So he takes

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Speaker 13: the play sheet from me. So now he goes into

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Speaker 13: his We're gonna we're gonna hang onto the ball, We're

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Speaker 13: gonna keep it away from here comes the points, right,

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Speaker 13: Ryan Fitzpatrick blasts his way all the way back. They

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Speaker 13: end up beating us on the last play of the

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Speaker 13: game because we just got he got taken away.

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Speaker 7: But it was so fun, it was so freeing.

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Speaker 13: Like as a quarterback, I just I loved having that

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Speaker 13: ability and that freedom, and you end up taking an ownership.

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Speaker 13: It's like if you're teaching, if you're teaching someone something

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Speaker 13: like you just automatically you learn it better yourself. And

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Speaker 13: I think that that's the fun part about that. And

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Speaker 13: that's kind of what I miss, honestly about the current

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Speaker 13: quarterback state is there's not a lot of those guys

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Speaker 13: doing that anymore. There are some, and like, that's why

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Speaker 13: I got so excited about Daniel Jones because he's up

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Speaker 13: there making checks, moving guys around. He has that ability

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Speaker 13: he has. Dak was doing that the other day and

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Speaker 13: then it win. But Dak's got full ownership. If that

496
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Speaker 13: was in Oxnard watching them practice. He's gonna play better

497
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Speaker 13: this year. See he's gonna catch the ball. Obviously he

498
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Speaker 13: might actually turn out to be a good receiver. But

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Speaker 13: there's those types of players. I still think you have

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Speaker 13: to be able to do that because you look at

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Speaker 13: Josh Allen, you look as great as Josh is love

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Speaker 13: Josh at Lamar at some point like why haven't they

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Speaker 13: been able to get over the hump? It's because of that.

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Speaker 13: It's because of that ownership at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 13: in those crucial situations. That's why Pat Mahomes is still

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Speaker 13: the guy. Like you can say what you want about him,

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Speaker 13: maybe put him down the list four or five, but

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Speaker 13: when it comes down to it, his notes are meticulous.

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Speaker 7: He's got a great play caller.

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Speaker 13: They know the answers to the test, they know the

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Speaker 13: problems that you're going to bring them, and they have

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Speaker 13: answers for him. And I think that there's still that

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Speaker 13: element that you have to have that component and Brady.

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Speaker 13: If Brady was here, he'd be telling you like that's

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Speaker 13: all that matters. I still think that there's a physicality

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Speaker 13: about it. Like you see, you know, Lamar's back there

517
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Speaker 13: running down John Hussey where now the referee is in

518
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Speaker 13: a full sprint trying to get away from him. Lamar

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Speaker 13: ends up making thirty yards. There's the element of that

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Speaker 13: that you have to have to play quarterback in this

521
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Speaker 13: league still, but you have to be able to win

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Speaker 13: and diagnose problems from the pocket and solve them.

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Speaker 2: That's why when we get quarterback rankings, I say, well

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Speaker 2: that's regular season, because if we if we have postseason rankings,

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Speaker 2: the rankings are completely different. You have Mahomes and Jaylen Morres, right,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 13: I couldn't agree more that one to exactly right, they're one,

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Speaker 13: two and And that's exactly for that reason that we

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Speaker 13: laid out, and we're like, well, what's the difference. That

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Speaker 13: is the difference because you get guys like Steve Spagnola.

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Speaker 13: You get these defensive coordinators that know your protection schem

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Speaker 13: better than you, honestly, and I've talked to some of

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Speaker 13: these quarterbacks and I love them.

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Speaker 7: They'll go nameless.

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Speaker 13: They don't know their protection schemes as well as some

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Speaker 13: of these defensive coordinators that are facing them. They know

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Speaker 13: how to bring the four week I mean, that's the

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Speaker 13: reason that Jared Goff is no longer in LA because

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Speaker 13: that four week pressure that they didn't have an answer for.

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Speaker 13: They had to find a guy that could kind of

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Speaker 13: cover that up, and it was Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 7: So there's there's Well when.

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Speaker 2: Stafford doing differently than Golf didn't recognize it, well.

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Speaker 13: They didn't really, they didn't really ask him to in

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Speaker 13: some systems, and this is what happened to Miami the

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Speaker 13: other day. So two is getting hit by these four

547
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Speaker 13: week pressures, these extra safety to fit that they are

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Speaker 13: unaccounted for. And so in those systems you use you know,

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Speaker 13: type formations, use shifts, motions, the speed of Tyreek kill

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Speaker 13: and that little quick motion that work. Everyone's calling illegal,

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Speaker 13: like you use that stuff to kind of cover that

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Speaker 13: stuff up.

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Speaker 7: But when it comes down to it, those.

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Speaker 13: Good coordinators are going to time it up right where

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Speaker 13: they know, Like Vic Fangio knows.

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Speaker 7: I was with him in Houston.

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Speaker 13: He believes that he can guess the offense is play

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Speaker 13: based on the personnel group in the down and distance,

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Speaker 13: and he's right a lot of times. So they won

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Speaker 13: the Super Bowl because those guys understand how to attack structure,

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Speaker 13: how to attack quarterbacks. And it's just you got to

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Speaker 13: have that. You got to have that ability to pick

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Speaker 13: that up. And Stafford. What Stafford does, honestly is he's

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Speaker 13: just so good at at defeating at buying time.

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Speaker 7: They used to tell us in the quarterback room. You

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Speaker 7: bring that extra pressure.

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Speaker 13: Hey guys buy time, Like hey, hold on, I don't

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Speaker 13: have time to buy with what what credit am I

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Speaker 13: using to buy this time?

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Speaker 7: I don't have it, man, I'm not that guy.

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Speaker 13: So but Stafford can just kind of make it physically,

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Speaker 13: so he kind of covers up for a lot of

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Speaker 13: that stuff.

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Speaker 3: We hear a lot of this.

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Speaker 2: Uh, when you know these guys come out of college

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Speaker 2: that in college you can have four seconds and you

577
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Speaker 2: could get out of trouble and you could hold onto

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Speaker 2: the ball and you can try to be a hero.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that in the NFL. But I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about teaching getting the ball out, teaching stepping up in

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Speaker 2: the pocket as opposed to rolling out away from pressure.

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Speaker 2: Is it teachable to get the ball out as quickly

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Speaker 2: as possible, to stay in the pocket, all those things

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Speaker 2: that you're taught you have.

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Speaker 13: So what happens is, and I've been in there, unfortunately,

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Speaker 13: when it's falling apart and guys are falling, you're getting pressure,

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Speaker 13: and it's just like, well, the only the only positive

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Speaker 13: play we had when I was in Houston at times

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Speaker 13: was me scrambling to the right and find Corey Bradford

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Speaker 13: after the play had already started, right, So I would

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Speaker 13: just literally tell we get in the red zone, like Corey.

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Speaker 7: If I don't throw it to you right away, just

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Speaker 7: find me, work with me on the back end line.

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Speaker 13: And I literally threw like five or six touchdowns my

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Speaker 13: second year just doing that because we couldn't hold up inside.

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Speaker 7: So that's the problem is because it's just human nature.

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Speaker 7: It's default for some of these guys to say, I

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Speaker 7: can just scramble out, and I hate it. I did

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Speaker 7: it a hundred thousand times as a quarterback.

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Speaker 13: But the scramble out to the right throwaway or just

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Speaker 13: trying to find like it bothers me so much. I

602
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Speaker 13: have so much respect for the quarterbacks that can climb

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Speaker 13: and step up in the pocket and trust their guys.

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Speaker 13: So what you have to do is you have to

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Speaker 13: really lock in to your schematics. You have to really

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Speaker 13: trust your offensive coordinators. So you can tell the guys

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Speaker 13: that trust their ocs, that trust their play callers they

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Speaker 13: climb up in the pocket, I trust that that fifth

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Speaker 13: guy is gonna be there, or that for that checkdown

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Speaker 13: is going to be there. The brock Purties finding Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 13: like Dak even did it the other day climbing up

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Speaker 13: in the pocket, like he just trusts that it's gonna

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Speaker 13: We're gonna make it work.

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Speaker 7: Joe Brow does that at time. Joe Burrow took some

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Speaker 7: shots the other day.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean they were he was getting wrecked, but

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Speaker 13: he trustsed, he knows, he knows.

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Speaker 7: Where his guys are. So it really comes down.

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Speaker 13: To really digging into what you're doing, your belief in

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Speaker 13: your play caller, in the fact he's gonna put you

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Speaker 13: in a good position.

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Speaker 2: Can you put us in the in that situation where

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Speaker 2: you're stepping up in the pocket and there's chaos around you.

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Speaker 7: There's no there's no words that can describe it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 13: It's just like you have to have such a faith

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Speaker 13: that your your guys are gonna win down the field,

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Speaker 13: that your scheme is right for the play that you have.

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Speaker 13: And that's why veteran quarterbacks so much want ownership of

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Speaker 13: the offense and kind of like we were talking about earlier,

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Speaker 13: where I want to I want to call the play

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Speaker 13: because I know that I know where the answer is

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Speaker 13: and if I get in trouble, I know I can

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Speaker 13: get out of it. The most, Like the thing that

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Speaker 13: bothers you the most is when you have a protection

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Speaker 13: but you go to step up and you know you

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Speaker 13: don't have a winner. You know, you don't have guys

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Speaker 13: that are going to win, especially on the based on

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Speaker 13: the coverage that you have. And it's it's really hard

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Speaker 13: because then then you go back into those bad habits

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Speaker 13: of like let me just create, let me just try

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Speaker 13: and make a play, and now you're just out there.

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Speaker 7: You're not You're not going to consistently win.

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Speaker 13: That's why, like Brady was always great because he would,

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Speaker 13: he would, and even Manning, they know where they're going

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Speaker 13: before the ball.

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Speaker 7: Like you talk about like he's staring down or zero.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, he's staring to the exact spot on the field

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Speaker 13: that he's going to throw this football, and he's going

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Speaker 13: to do in less than two seconds. Good luck getting

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Speaker 13: to him. So if you can get to that point

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Speaker 13: in your offense, then you got to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: But Brady could still play today.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely, he could still play. Peyton could still play.

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Speaker 13: I mean if you could throw at twenty yards, I

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Speaker 13: don't know if his neck would let him, but I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 13: you it's you get to a point where if you

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Speaker 13: can just keep the physical ability. That's why it was

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Speaker 13: so interesting talking to Flacco. I went out to Leland,

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Speaker 13: saw him like, well, how do you feel, because that's

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Speaker 13: what quarterbacks want to ask the veteran guys, like do

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Speaker 13: you feel like you can go out there and do

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Speaker 13: it physically? Because mentally, you know, the more reps you get,

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Speaker 13: there isn't a defense on earth that these guys can

665
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 13: invent that you haven't seen and that you don't have

666
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Speaker 13: an answer for. So it's just keeping that physical ability

667
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Speaker 13: on par with your mental game.

668
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Speaker 3: Were you rooting for Caleb Williams to break your sack record?

669
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Speaker 7: That's tough, man. I don't look.

670
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Speaker 13: I know how bad I felt at that moment, and

671
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Speaker 13: I didn't want because I was like contemplating, do I

672
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 13: want to play football anymore?

673
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 7: Like this is kind of hard.

674
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Speaker 13: I've played every sport like I feel like you can

675
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 13: figure out eventually, Like you've played golf, like you're gonna

676
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 13: figure it out, Like you give me enough time, I'll

677
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 13: find a way to win. But it was hard, man, like,

678
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 13: because that's something that's so out of your control. So

679
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 13: for me, like when I'm watching him, I kind of

680
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 13: didn't want him to honestly, Like, if I'm being honest,

681
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Speaker 13: I didn't want him to break the records. I don't

682
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Speaker 13: want anybody have to go through because he might not

683
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Speaker 13: play football anymore, like he might not.

684
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Speaker 7: Want to do it.

685
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Speaker 13: It's so hard to go through all the stuff we've

686
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 13: talked about ownership of the offense, like being in the

687
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 13: right place at the right time, doing all the all

688
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 13: the right things.

689
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 7: And then you do everything right. That's what I was.

690
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 13: That's why I struggled so much with is Like I

691
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 13: remember telling my wife one night, I was like, I

692
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 13: don't I don't know physically or mentally what else to do. Like,

693
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 13: I just don't. I don't know what else to do.

694
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 13: And so when you get to that point, it's that's

695
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 13: a tough Someone's got to bring you back, you know,

696
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 13: because and it's it's got to be something outside of yourself.

697
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Speaker 7: So fortunately for me, I had some great people around

698
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Speaker 7: me and some good coaches.

699
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Speaker 13: Eventually, and I got to New York and I found

700
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 13: out football was easy.

701
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Speaker 7: So I mean, that was that was my favorite part.

702
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Speaker 2: Seventy six sacks in We'll see so you're first and

703
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Speaker 2: third on the.

704
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, don't worry.

705
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 13: We yeah, we went seventy six and then we we

706
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 13: kind of skipped a year, had a good year, had

707
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Speaker 13: I think fifty and then we said, you know, we're

708
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 13: gonna go back up there where we got to get.

709
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: Our numbers up where we're He went from seventy six

710
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: and then just back up to sixty eight.

711
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, that's right. I feel great. New hip.

712
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 13: I got brand new hip. Titanum feels great. It's the

713
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 13: best joint that I have in my body. Works better

714
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 13: than all the other ones. It's fantastic.

715
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Speaker 3: We got your brother on tomorrow.

716
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 7: He's gonna be great.

717
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Speaker 5: Man.

718
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Speaker 13: He's so fun. He did that pregame show, Yeah, Chargers

719
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 13: Chiefs the other day. He did great. He just loves

720
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 13: talking football. He loves talking football. So we're actually doing

721
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 13: a show Homegrown Network. We just launched our second show.

722
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 13: It's gonna be today, and we're just talking about quarterbacks,

723
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 13: like all the stuff that we're talking about. It's so

724
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Speaker 13: fun to be able to talk about it with him

725
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 13: because I've done it my whole life with him. But

726
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 13: he's right in it, like you talk about like the

727
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 13: schematics and what these guys are doing and all the

728
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 13: different offenses. He's had everybody like you talk about a

729
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 13: team like, he's had that guy as a coordinator, so

730
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 13: he knows the intricacies I think I do, but then

731
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 13: ill I even find myself and like, hey, what are

732
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 13: they actually doing right here? And he'll just literally break

733
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Speaker 13: it down. So it's been super fun to do that.

734
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Speaker 13: But yeah, he'll be a blast to talk to. Do

735
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Speaker 13: you joke with.

736
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Speaker 2: Your brother about the Tom Brady wanting to be a

737
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: Raider and then yelling at the Raiders that you're going

738
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: to keep him over me?

739
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's some things that we joke about.

740
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Speaker 13: Okay, probably don't need to be aunty, so you go

741
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 13: feel free, man, feel free to what he says. But look,

742
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 13: it's so funny because like literally the same day that

743
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 13: even like the last couple of days of that stuff

744
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 13: has kind of research, He's on the phone with Mark Davis, Like,

745
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 13: so Mark is just he wants a good team, he

746
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 13: wants a good product. He wants someone in the building

747
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 13: like that's why Tom's did right now. He wants a

748
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 13: guy that can kind of push this football thing forward.

749
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Speaker 13: He knows he's a smart he's a smart guy, Like

750
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Speaker 13: he understands that he doesn't have all the answers.

751
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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's it's it's a good time, man, Oh

752
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 7: my good time.

753
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Speaker 2: When you know everybody wanted to know, well, what guy's

754
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: he talking about? What team is Brady talking about? And

755
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: you know how Brady you know, oh yeah, he's just

756
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, tough guy. You're going to keep that bleep,

757
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: you know sure?

758
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Speaker 13: I mean, I mean every quarterback feels that way, like

759
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Speaker 13: you absolutely If you don't feel that way, then I

760
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 13: mean that's why he's considered one of the greatest quarterbacks ever,

761
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Speaker 13: if not the greatest, like because he has that competitive spirit, like, yeah,

762
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Speaker 13: I can absolutely come in and do that job. Bro, Dan,

763
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Speaker 13: I feel like I can go out there right now.

764
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Speaker 13: I absolutely cannot and take half these guys jobs. I

765
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Speaker 13: cannot do it. Just for the record, You're not better

766
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Speaker 13: than Flacco, absolutely not. First of all, the guys the

767
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 13: size of this wall, Like he's six eight and he

768
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 13: feels completely healthy.

769
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Speaker 7: I have a bad hit, so.

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Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's got Roethlisberger could probably still play one

771
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

772
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Speaker 13: Like there's I haven't seen Roethlisberger's shape like recently.

773
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Speaker 3: Was big. I don't know if he was having.

774
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Speaker 13: Big and big and big for a while. It is

775
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 13: a different thing, you know, like big in football. I

776
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 13: remember talking to Ben. He might hate me for telling

777
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Speaker 13: the story, but we had the lock out and we

778
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 13: ended up playing them in the preseason, and so this

779
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 13: was after everyone. No one has been doing anything. Really,

780
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Speaker 13: We've been trying. We were in the building. We're trying

781
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 13: to go put workouts together. Ben said, Dave, I haven't

782
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 13: put on cleats since Christmas and this is August. So

783
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Speaker 13: I'm like, so Ben's been out for a while. What's

784
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Speaker 13: what's he like right now?

785
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Speaker 7: I don't know, Dan, I don't know. Three hundred possibly

786
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 7: pushing it, yeah, possibly pushing it. Yeah, big dude, I'm concerned.

787
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Speaker 3: Great great stories, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, oh Man.

788
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Speaker 7: I always enjoyed it.

789
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790
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793
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Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez, he called the Broncos Week one win over

794
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: the Titans. He's got the seahauwnks at the Steelers coming

795
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: up at one Eastern Sunday on Fox. Good to see

796
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Speaker 2: you again. What's the biggest concern from Week one, either

797
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Speaker 2: player or team or coach than you have.

798
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Speaker 5: Well from our games? Specifically, Wait twenty second could be

799
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Speaker 5: a full six to two and a quarter to forty two. Okay,

800
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: let's see Broncos game. Who Bonick struggle. He really did,

801
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Speaker 5: and I don't think it's catastrophic. I don't think it's

802
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: the end of the world for those guys. But he

803
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: just didn't look as sharp as I thought everybody expected,

804
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: and the defense bailed him out big time. I've been there.

805
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: I know what that feels like. You know, after you

806
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Speaker 5: go to the playoffs, your rookie year, coming back that

807
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: next year, expectations are just sky high. So we laid

808
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: an egg our first game. My second year got sumped

809
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: by the Ravens, and it felt like the walls are

810
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 5: closing in sky's falling. Everything's horrible, but at least they

811
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Speaker 5: got the win. So I'd rather him learn those lessons

812
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Speaker 5: with a w then have to go through all that

813
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Speaker 5: film and digest all that with a loss. That would

814
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: have been tough. At home, that would have been really tough.

815
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Speaker 2: Our rookie quarterbacks still making the same mistakes, whether it

816
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: was ten years ago, fifteen years ago, I think so.

817
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Speaker 5: I think like in our game, specifically, you know cam Ward,

818
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 5: it's a back and forth game, defensive battle, and at

819
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Speaker 5: one point I want to say, it was like nine

820
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Speaker 5: to six or ten to nine or something like that,

821
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Speaker 5: and they get this turnover, a total gift, a muff

822
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Speaker 5: punt and he takes two sacks, knocks him out of

823
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: field goal range. They punt and you lose the points,

824
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 5: You lose the momentum, you get a chance to go,

825
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: you know, to go up, take the lead for the

826
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Speaker 5: first time in the game. And it's stuff like that.

827
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Speaker 5: Like I know, from the booth it's easy to say,

828
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: and from here it's easy to say. But if I

829
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: was coaching those guys, it might be one of those

830
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 5: situations where you grab him by the face mask and say, hey,

831
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: we're inside the thirty. We do not end this down

832
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Speaker 5: or end this drive with anything less than three points.

833
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Speaker 5: I don't care if you catch the ball and throw

834
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: it in the stands three times, it doesn't matter. We

835
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Speaker 5: need the points, you know what I mean. And if

836
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Speaker 5: you can relate that to a young kid, because they're

837
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Speaker 5: just in the moment, feeling the emotions ceiling. It was

838
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Speaker 5: interesting talking to Vance Joseph before the game, the defense

839
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Speaker 5: coordinator for the Broncos. I think he's gonna be a

840
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 5: head CoA by the way, pretty soon.

841
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: Again.

842
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: But he just said, I don't want this kid to

843
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: see the ball go in the hoop. I want to

844
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 5: blur the screen with our speed. I want them to

845
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: feel our rush. I want to bat balls at the

846
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. I just don't want them to get comfortable.

847
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 5: I want them to hold it and just create indecision

848
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 5: for that long and we'll do the rest. It's exactly

849
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 5: what they did. And in a situation like that, all

850
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: young quarterbacks you screw up. You you try and do

851
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: too much. You try and get out of trouble, and

852
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 5: pretty soon you lose fifteen yards. Now we're out of

853
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 5: field goal range. So that was a tough stretch.

854
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: What did you hear in the pocket when you were

855
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: back to pass?

856
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Speaker 2: It's quiet, but there's noise around you, but your blocking noise.

857
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't, Oh, such a good question. You just

858
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: get so used to the quiet. It's kind of like

859
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 5: a like a dull roar over the top. The one

860
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 5: thing I will say is what I learned kind of

861
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: early on, is if you're at home and sometimes you

862
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 5: get rid of the ball and you throw it, it

863
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 5: leaves your hand and you don't see the guy catch

864
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: it because you get hit. So you're laying on your back,

865
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: staring at the ceiling or the sky. And if you're

866
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: at home and you hear a big cheer, you can

867
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 5: get up slow. If you're at home and you hear it, oh,

868
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: you're like, oh boy, I got to make a tackle.

869
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: And then it flips on the road. You know, if

870
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: you cut that ball loose and you're staring at the

871
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: ceiling and the crowd goes nuts, you're like, oh, dude,

872
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 5: I got to go make a tackle.

873
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Speaker 2: Have you broken down Aaron Rodgers' performance against the Jets yet?

874
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: WHOA?

875
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: That was impressive. Well, one of the one of the touchdowns.

876
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: I mean he threw four in the stats, right, but

877
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 5: one of them was a little you know, jet sweep

878
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: out of the gun where you just flip it to

879
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: the guy. So he looked, he looked impressive.

880
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Man.

881
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: He had a little bounce in his step the first touchdown.

882
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: The role to the right that he throws, it's essentially

883
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 5: a naked and I mean that thing was a missile. Man.

884
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 5: He looked, He looked great. And is that just week one?

885
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: Is that you know full recovery from the achilles? Is

886
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: that added juice because it's the Jets and he wanted

887
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: to embarrass him. Maybe a little everything, but I was

888
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: I was thoroughly impressed. He looks good.

889
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know if he could make that signature

890
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: role right and zip it like he did throughout his career.

891
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he's more of a pocket pouncer. But

892
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: it feels like he came in this way, he's going

893
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: out this way with you know, that that mobility, and

894
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't.

895
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 5: Think he's quite as mobile obviously as he was, but

896
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: he's mobile enough to do stuff like that. But like

897
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 5: in the pocket he was. You know, Romo doesn't get

898
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 5: enough credit for extending plays. Rogers doesn't get enough credit

899
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 5: for extending plays because you have guys like Josh Allen

900
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 5: and Lamar Jackson and designed quarterback runs. But these guys

901
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: were like elite athletes at the quarterback position. And the

902
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 5: way he could hit his back foot and kind of

903
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: get that like low lean forward and then just go

904
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 5: navigate the pocket and then step up and rifle something

905
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: down the field. I mean, nobody can do what he does.

906
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 5: And it's a I mean the guy changed his full

907
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 5: throwing motion, you know, a few years into his career

908
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: because his knee was bugging him, and then he started

909
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: that like jump throw that cam Ward and all these

910
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: kids are doing. Everybody off platform two feet in the

911
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: air launching the ball. You would never ever teach a

912
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 5: kid to do that ever, It's too hard. It takes

913
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 5: too much coordination, it takes too much trunk rotation, it

914
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 5: takes too much of the rest your arm and everything

915
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: being perfect as you release the ball. It's so hard

916
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 5: to do it, and he does it with little effort,

917
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: it seems.

918
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: But you have these younger quarterbacks now who they idolized

919
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford.

920
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that.

921
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: Well, Matthew's like one of the best pocket passers number one.

922
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: But mechanics wise, he's only gotten better his whole career.

923
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 5: And he came in solid, just nice ball carriage, great feet,

924
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: can throw it off his back foot, has plenty of

925
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 5: juice in his arm, and you know the stuff to

926
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 5: the left, like he takes the cheat step slightly to

927
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: the right and drifts just to open enough so he

928
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: never leaves anything to left inside and then it goes

929
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 5: the other way like he's he's one of the best

930
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: mechanically and you know as a competitor, arm strength, all that,

931
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 5: he's he's got it all.

932
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it surprised me because it's almost like younger players

933
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: look up to Paul George in the NBA and I

934
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: go Paul George, and you know, like for a different

935
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: generation they looked up to Paul George and then you

936
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: get Caleb Williams and c J.

937
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: Stroud and they're like, man, man their Stafford's the man.

938
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: And I'm like, he's incredible.

939
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: He takes a beating.

940
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 5: Well, he dropped back that many times. Every once in

941
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: a while, they're gonna they're gonna get you. But how

942
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: about my guy, Caleb Man, I.

943
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: Don't know, Oh you tell me. I mean first or

944
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: second half?

945
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I don't know. It's it seemed like he

946
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: reverted to some of those bad habits. And you know,

947
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: the good place aren't just good, they're incredible. They're you know,

948
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 5: top ten, highlight reel good, and then the bad ones.

949
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: You're like, how do we miss that throw? You know,

950
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: how do we ah? What is it? What do we

951
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: what are we missing here? And I mean you saw

952
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: a speed when he decided to actually run on one

953
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 5: of them. Oh my god, he's way faster than you think.

954
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: But can you be objective when you're talking about him

955
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: because you know, I know because the USC Yeah.

956
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean listen, I I gotta call it how

957
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: I see it.

958
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: And what concerns you then that that?

959
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you got the best offensive head coach, you know,

960
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: play caller. I mean you got you got what you need,

961
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: you got weapons, you got an offensive line that's improved.

962
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: What's missing here.

963
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: A couple of those throws. I mean, you just got

964
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: to hit a couple of those throws. I don't know

965
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 5: if it's the front foot. So like if you're a

966
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: right handed quarterback, your front left toe, your left big toe,

967
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: the ball is going to go right off that big

968
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 5: toe wherever, wherever you point it, that's where the ball's going.

969
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: So it's natural for right handers on an inbreaking route

970
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: from right to left. So like a slant route on

971
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: the right handed thrower's right side breaking to the left

972
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: to leave the ball to the right behind the guy right,

973
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: it's natural for the guy going the opposite direction to

974
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 5: throw it in front of him. He was like all

975
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: over the place. I'm both and you know a couple

976
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: of scenarios where guys were open. You know, you saw

977
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: DJ Moore the one in the in the end zone

978
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 5: to the left side. So that's kind of like you know,

979
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: the little red thing on your mailbox. It's up you

980
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: check the mail, Yeah, the little flag. Yeah, that's like

981
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 5: DJ just broke off his route and threw his hand

982
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: out because nobody was there. That's like, you know, if

983
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 5: you're a veteran receiver and you're really Randy Moss used

984
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 5: to do it all the time. He just throw his

985
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: hand up and then oh, it's a go ball, all right,

986
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: red flag, check the mail and launch it. And it

987
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: landed ten yards out of bounds, and you're like, oh man,

988
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: you know, like those ones you're just I don't know

989
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: if it's just an excitement or but sometimes the ball

990
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 5: just jumps out of his hand and it's you know,

991
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: completely out of whack. And then the other ones that

992
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: are you know, they got to be perfect, I mean

993
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: their money, you know, and and it's it's just an

994
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 5: inconsistency right now, and so hopefully it's you know, first

995
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 5: game jitters or something, and and they correct it, because

996
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: you know, I'm obviously rooting for him, but yeah, it

997
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: wasn't it wasn't his best game. It was inconsistent. He

998
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: started hot and then it looked like a little bit

999
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 5: like last year.

1000
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: He's one of those quarterbacks or players that I would

1001
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: call the red zone player. When you're watching the red zone,

1002
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: they show you highlights, but if you watch the totality

1003
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: of a game, that's when you realize that, right, maybe

1004
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: he might have had four, you know, great moments, it

1005
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: was all the other ones.

1006
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: So there's certain players. Kyler Murray would be like that.

1007
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, he's having a great game, and then

1008
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you look at his stats and

1009
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: you go, oh, well, he only had three other completions.

1010
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: There certain guys like that.

1011
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: Sure.

1012
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert was on the show prior to the start

1013
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: of the season and I said, why don't you do

1014
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: kind of what Josh Allen's doing. Why don't you make

1015
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: put pressure on defenses by running, because we've seen him

1016
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: run in college the Rose Bull.

1017
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: He was wonderful. And then we started to see.

1018
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if this is going to be

1019
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: something that's in the playbook, but he did use his

1020
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: legs in that game against the Chiefs a lot more

1021
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: than I think we've seen before.

1022
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: Oh he looked great. He I think he's not going

1023
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 5: to do the runs, so sorry, my dog's john us.

1024
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: All right, He's not gonna do as many designed runs,

1025
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 5: but I think when he can extend plays, and then

1026
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: you see him get outside, when Chris Jones took the

1027
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 5: inside path and he feels that open edge, the dude's gone.

1028
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: He's got a long stridelink. I mean, he looks like

1029
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 5: a gazelle when he runs and he covers a ton

1030
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: of ground and it looks effortless. It's just you know,

1031
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 5: get down, get out of bounds, that kind of deal.

1032
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: But he's he's better than people give him credit for.

1033
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 5: You know, I really do think that. And I don't

1034
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: think he's completely realized his potential. I don't think he's

1035
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 5: played the way that game the other night. They lose

1036
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: that the last three four years, Yeah, hands down, no

1037
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: doubt about it. And it looked like they were going

1038
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: to lose again. It's like, oh man, they were closed,

1039
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 5: but here we go. This is kind of kind of

1040
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: what we're expecting. And he completely flipped the script and

1041
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 5: just owned it. And I just I really think he's

1042
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 5: he's one of those special players that that's just waiting

1043
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 5: for that opportunity, and he hit the big one. They

1044
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 5: got three Division games out of the out of the

1045
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 5: blocks here, they got the Raiders on Monday night coming up,

1046
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 5: and then I want to say that, I think the

1047
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 5: Broncos after that. Yeah, so that's a grueling schedule. The

1048
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 5: AFC West is legit and all those all those games

1049
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 5: are a street fight. Everybody wants to run the ball.

1050
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 5: Har ball, Carol, you know the Chiefs want to run

1051
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: the ball, everybody. And it's I's seen me a good division.

1052
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: Whoever comes out of there might make a little noise.

1053
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: But when did we get away from the run that

1054
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: now we're coming back to the run?

1055
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: I think, I don't know, it feels like the last

1056
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: five seasons it's turned into a little bit like seven

1057
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: on seven and you know, you got to throw it

1058
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: fifty times. I feel like, you know, the way defenses

1059
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: have really shifted. Other than a couple of coordinators in

1060
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: the league, a lot of teams are adopting that kind

1061
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: of blanket umbrella coverage. Ben don't break mentality. We'll throw

1062
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: a couple of pressures here and there, some simulated pressures,

1063
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: but we're not going to get caught, and we're going

1064
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: to force you to go fifteen plays, you know, convert

1065
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: three third and fives, third and nine, third and twelve, Like,

1066
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna make you do that, and I guarantee you're

1067
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 5: gonna screw it up before our defense test. You're gonna

1068
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 5: give us a cheap one. Somebody's gonna fumble, you're gonna

1069
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 5: get a holding. You're either punting or were taking the

1070
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: ball away. So I feel like once that started to

1071
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 5: happen and teams started to back up a little bit,

1072
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 5: it's a natural reaction to just turn around, hand the

1073
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: ball to somebody and let them go, you know, hound

1074
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: the defense, force them to bring that guy in the box,

1075
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: and then we'll get creative.

1076
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1077
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: I thought at one point somebody was gonna be we're

1078
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: going to be a run first team because defenses were

1079
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: all quick, guys were smaller, and I thought, man, why

1080
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: don't you go you'll have a counter attack and just

1081
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: say we're just gonna ram it down your throat because

1082
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get bigger in the offense. You know,

1083
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna be built to beat you guys, because

1084
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: everybody was, you know, but the Bengals went all air

1085
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: attack here.

1086
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 5: I remember going to call a game and since he

1087
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 5: probably two years ago, but I mean, they throw up

1088
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 5: more than anybody. And I asked Zach Taylor, I said, hey,

1089
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: are those old linemen ever gonna just start a mutiny?

1090
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 5: And he goes why, I said, since they got to

1091
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 5: pass that all game? Man? I said, are you ever

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Speaker 5: going to hand the rock? What's the deal? And he's like,

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Speaker 5: come on, that's we got to give it to our

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Speaker 5: best player, number nine in the offense runs through number nine,

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Speaker 5: and I said, hey, Joe Mixon is pretty good too,

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Speaker 5: you know, yeah, you can you can run it. So

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Speaker 5: it was it was funny just messing with him a

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Speaker 5: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Gonna have that change up, man.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Mark will be calling the Seahawks at the Steelers

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Speaker 2: one Eastern and it'll be on Fox. Great to talk

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Speaker 2: to you again. Hope the family exscontiates you guys. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us, sir, Thank you, Mark Sanchez