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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Bonus hour of the Drive. Here our number three inside

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Speaker 2: the built more. It is beautiful. The weather is fabulous.

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Speaker 2: We are in Phoenix, Arizona, about two thousand miles away

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Speaker 2: from home, for the twenty twenty six annual NFL League meetings.

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Speaker 3: I've had to step outside for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: and just get a little bit of sun. It felt great. Bone.

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Speaker 2: It really is. And again, I know we've we've relayed

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Speaker 2: this message, but it is a three hour show in

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Speaker 2: the audience checks in and checks out throughout the time. Man,

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Speaker 2: just the we had a rough winter in Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: winters in Pittsburgh aren't typically light, but this one was

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Speaker 2: extra heavy, more snow than usual, more single degree more

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Speaker 2: single degree temperature days than usual. So yeah, we land

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Speaker 2: here and it's you know, it's seventies and eighties and

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Speaker 2: sunny every single day and not a cloud in the sky.

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Speaker 2: It looks like spring breakout side. It's it's fantastic. Definitely

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Speaker 2: a different climate, it certainly is, and one that again

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Speaker 2: maybe all the time, you know, maybe if this was

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Speaker 2: the middle of June, we'd be like, oh man, this

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Speaker 2: is too much. But from from the winter that we're

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Speaker 2: that we're just coming out of here is certainly in.

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Speaker 3: The mountains in the background. It's just clear and so

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Speaker 3: much it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It reminds you, know, this is this is my first

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Speaker 2: time in Phoenix, Matt, and it reminds me a little

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Speaker 2: bit of Las Vegas, but a little bit bigger, a

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Speaker 2: little bit nicer, a little bit cleaner.

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Speaker 3: That seemed kind of like you're flying commercial.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're flying into the desert. It's like a beautiful surroundings.

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Speaker 2: You can see the mountains all around the city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty pretty cool. Yeah. And so we're

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Speaker 2: having a lot of fun here. Uh, great people here

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Speaker 2: at the at the Biltmore taking care of us. We're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to this dinner, this evening here. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a gonna be a heck of a show, I've

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Speaker 2: been told, and uh and yeah. And then we will

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Speaker 2: have our third and final day of coverage here tomorrow

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Speaker 2: before we before we travel back to Pittsburgh for the

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Speaker 2: back half of the Wee Matt.

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Speaker 3: We are going to get right around the corner twenty

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Speaker 3: four days, twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four days away. That's crazy. I mean, that's just

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Speaker 2: a shade over three weeks. We'll be at the three

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Speaker 2: week mark on this Thursday, and so man, it happens quick.

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Speaker 2: It gets back to that whole Like again, I referenced

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Speaker 2: it earlier in the show, but it used to be

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Speaker 2: kind of like an inside joke that Motes and I

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Speaker 2: had on the Steelers' blitz was like, oh, you got

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, you got plenty of times. Oh, don't worry,

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Speaker 2: when in reality, the next thing is always.

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Speaker 3: Three weeks away. You know, you better be prepared.

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Speaker 2: And then after the draft it'll be rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 2: and then it'll be mini camp, and ota mini.

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Speaker 3: Camp comes like that too real quick. Those guys are

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Speaker 3: acclimated right away.

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Speaker 2: Real quick. And then and then before we know it,

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Speaker 2: it'll be late July. We'll all be back out in

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Speaker 2: our summer home and Latrobe and getting ready for another Steelers,

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Speaker 2: another season of Steelers football, the first year of Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: and just all the different storylines that are to come here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: one of the storylines staring us down the face is

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. The draft obviously being on the north

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be chaos, but it's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. And the Steelers with their twelve draft picks

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Speaker 2: in this upcoming draft, Matt Miller of ESPN dot Com

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Speaker 2: did his first and ESPN's first full seven round mock drafts.

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Speaker 2: Who now, Matt, I.

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Speaker 3: Am, that's an insane endeavor.

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Speaker 2: That's an insane endeavor. I think, good for him, Good

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Speaker 2: for him. And you know, all the twelve picks for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are here. I don't need to roll through

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Speaker 2: all twelve of these names. And who he's predicting that

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are hearing them?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we spend a ton of time on them and

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Speaker 3: something we might not even know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but what I like about this, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we really typically only reference these mock exercises if it's

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Speaker 2: something different, if it's something outside of the box. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: names right on, exactly right, And a lot of them

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Speaker 2: have had the Stellers taking similar guys, but this one

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Speaker 2: pretty different. He's got all twelve Steelers picks, and most

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Speaker 2: of them they're names that we've discussed but haven't necessarily

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm interested.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this was out, So pick twenty one

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Speaker 2: here for the Steelers. Cayden Procter, the offensive tackle out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the I've got about four or

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Speaker 3: five names at the O line spots that I think

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Speaker 3: tackle a year from now. And Proctor's one of them.

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Speaker 3: One of the times. One of the reasons I haven't

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Speaker 3: brought him up quite as much as Max or fan

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Speaker 3: O or you know those dudes.

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Speaker 2: Benga Benga.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know the thing about Benga is I

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Speaker 3: don't think he can bound. He's gonna stay there at

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Speaker 2: He might have the highest ceiling at guard of all

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Speaker 2: those guys, but he he doesn't project to potentially play tackle.

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Speaker 3: One n Yeah, but I do think the Hoffman signing

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Speaker 3: at the O line position is more move The only

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Speaker 3: reason Dallas and bring it back is because they're looking

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Speaker 3: for like the biggest line in the league in Hoffin's

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Speaker 2: Proctor six seven, three hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's crazy big. Now, I just wonder does

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Speaker 3: he fit the movement athleticism requirements or guidelines they're looking

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Speaker 3: for in Pittsburgh because he is not slow footed or

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Speaker 3: not athletic. But I I don't think he's out of

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Speaker 2: I don't either. We again, you you said it right.

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Speaker 2: We haven't mentioned him as enough as much as obviously

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Speaker 2: Venga Yuana from Penn State, uh Fanu from Utah, Maxi

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Speaker 2: Hure from Arizona State had some fun conversation with him

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Speaker 2: with some sun devil about him with some sun devils

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Speaker 2: they asked me about Tyson. They said, is Jordan Tyson

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Speaker 2: see Maxie and Hure end up and they were like,

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Speaker 2: oh really. I was like, we love that guy.

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Speaker 3: So they got a linebacker, they got a safety. They

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Speaker 2: But proc there's another one that's in that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so could be if you fit that

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Speaker 2: Could be available right in that range. When the Steelers

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Speaker 2: pick at twenty one fifty three. This one really raised

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Speaker 2: my eyebrows. Matt Garrett Nussmeyer, quarterback out of LSU for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gone down this road a lot because he's

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Speaker 3: my quarterback three behind Simpson and Aus.

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Speaker 2: And I think pretty not unanimously, but pretty consistently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and one hundred percent get it. And I

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Speaker 3: this morning, just talking about his tape from a year ago,

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Speaker 3: and the one thousand percent thought nuss Meyer based off

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four tape is a NFL starting quarterback doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean it's the best in the league. An NFL starting quarterback,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot of praise, I mean that's you

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Speaker 3: don't throw those terms around, and that doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 3: just one to thirty two, like he's you know, legit, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: and I humber sent get that, and boy, he definitely

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Speaker 3: they know more about him. I'd just be so much

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Speaker 3: more comfortable as the third round same here, you know

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Speaker 2: If it's any of those third round picks, I'd be like, Okay, yeah, fifty.

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Speaker 3: Three, if you combine two of them to move up

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Speaker 3: in the third round or something like that. I just

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Speaker 3: don't want to pass on a receiver after going O

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Speaker 2: That's where I was going to go, Like, for the

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Speaker 2: purpose of this exercise. Right after fifty three, the Eagles

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Speaker 2: take Antonio Williams, the wide receiver out of Clemson.

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Speaker 2: A few picks later, the Jags take Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see what other goes sixty three to

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you took Proctor, you probably wouldn't double down,

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Speaker 2: Chris Bell still on the board out of out of Louisville, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: malach Field, Yeah, So that was the only thing for me,

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Speaker 2: is Man, there's some real names there that you would

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Speaker 2: like after him that could certainly have a much more

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Speaker 2: tangible impact on your immediate twenty twenty six season in results.

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Speaker 3: Sure, or you might look back at in five years

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Speaker 3: and like, you drafted a starting quarterback in the second round,

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Speaker 3: and that's that's a deal you, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt. So Caden Proctor twenty first, Garrett Nussmeyer,

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Speaker 2: quarterback out of LSU fifty three, the three third round picks,

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Speaker 2: Jennings Dunker, the guard from Iowa seventy six overall.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and there's maybe right tackle, maybe guard. I lean

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Speaker 3: towards guard. Shocked that not that I'm all knowing by

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Speaker 3: any stretch, but like, I'm shocked that anybody else would

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Speaker 3: double down on O line that early, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's something that's kind of one of my moves. Again,

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Speaker 3: I can't go three picks so without a wide out,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know problem with Thatny one of the

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Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. Yeah, he can as much as

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Speaker 2: you and I think that there's good wide outs all

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Speaker 2: throughout this draft available. You can't wait forever, and you

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Speaker 2: can't wait for at least you know your fourth pick here.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because I have no problem with the three

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Speaker 2: players selected here.

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Speaker 3: I just and I think the values fine for all

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Speaker 3: of them and all that stuff. It's just I can't

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Speaker 3: go this long without a number three receiver on my.

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Speaker 2: Team, exactly right. And then it picked eighty five Matt

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Speaker 2: third round pick B in the third round, Tyler aud Yeddim,

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle out of A and M so defensive

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Speaker 2: line there with the fourth pick at eighty five, saying

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Speaker 2: basically Cam Heyward's thirty seven. So yeah, they added Sebastian

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Speaker 2: Joseph Day, but he's thirty one. This is about the

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Speaker 2: future of the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Okay, He's not a player I know a ton about.

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Speaker 3: I've not seen anyone else project him to the third round.

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Speaker 2: I would sign up. I would sign up for that

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Speaker 3: Now, as you stole the words out of my mouth,

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Speaker 2: Today, tomorrow, any of the twenty four days between now

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Speaker 3: I think there's a better chance he sneaks into a

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Speaker 3: Not that he's the total answer, but sure getting him

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be. It would certainly be will So

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Speaker 2: that's five of the Steelers twelve. Here's where else they

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Speaker 2: Jacoby Thomas, the safety from the U.

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Speaker 3: Okay, older player, really good player, safety slash slot. Sign

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Speaker 2: Tron Allen, running back from Penn State. We've talked about

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Speaker 3: Last Maybe maybe yeah. I mean, he's not super dynamic.

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Speaker 2: You know, and you need some competition for Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 2: You can't just give him the third running back position.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know that edge would be in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Picked two sixteen for the Steelers, call and Wright the

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't know a lot about them, and this is

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Speaker 2: Now, this is funny. Into the seventh round, pick two

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're related or not.

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Speaker 3: Matt Miller. And that one just chuckle to yourself and

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Speaker 2: That made me laugh. And then two more here Julia

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've seen him projected a lot higher than that

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Speaker 2: And then Isaiah World, the offensive tackle out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: So he's a dude that I actually know a fair

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Speaker 3: dice roll. I I mean, you're talking about seventh rounder there, right.

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Speaker 3: That's so huge. Yeah, three twenty.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just read shirts this entire rookie year and

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Speaker 2: And if that's your twelfth pick, you're taking a flyer

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Speaker 3: And what's actually kind of nice is maybe even put

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Speaker 2: we go to break Fanna Mendoza first to the Raiders. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Curious what was on the board A twenty one.

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Speaker 2: R VL Reese second to the Jets. That's starting to

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was?

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Speaker 2: That was? That feels like one of the real wild

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Speaker 2: I think that's good for the Steelers. He goes four, five,

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Speaker 2: I can't see him getting out of the top ten, certainly.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's gone by that.

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Speaker 2: But Jeremiah Love fourth to the Titans. A great great

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Speaker 2: piece there for cam Ward in that offense. Caleb downs

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Speaker 3: Should I totally understand?

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Speaker 2: Should ask John Harball when I bumped into him walking

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Speaker 3: Coach?

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Speaker 2: Number six, another Ohio State guy, Carnell Tate wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Seven the Commanders take Man's sword de Layne. That's the

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Speaker 3: You're rich for my blood.

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Speaker 2: But number eight the Saints take edge rusher from Texas

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Speaker 3: I would think they'd be quite happy with that.

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Speaker 2: Number nine back to back edge rusher's off the board.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs take Reuben Bain Junior out of Miami.

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Speaker 3: I think he's good in the top ten was all

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Speaker 3: said and done.

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Speaker 2: I think so too that the arm length is a concern,

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Speaker 3: Checks the tape exists. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ten. I think the Bengals would love this. They might

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Speaker 2: even sign for this in blood right now. Sonny Styles

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Speaker 2: Eleven mackay Lemon becomes the second wide receiver off the board.

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Speaker 2: He needs something there. Twelfth Jermad McCoy, cornerback out of Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: who will finally will finally see him run tomorrow Tomorrow

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Speaker 3: Obviously critical for him.

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Speaker 2: Oh his twenty twenty four tape is incredible, But the

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Speaker 2: Howard and Jack Sawyer in Ohio State, all the way

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Speaker 2: back in January of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll start to see him projected in this neighborhood over.

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Speaker 2: And over, especially if he runs well tomorrow. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen Spencer Funu, the tackle guard out of Utah, goes

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Speaker 2: Kenyon Sadik, the tight end from Oregon, ends up with

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. Fifteenth.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Allen line jump on. Yeah, he could be one of

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Speaker 2: the top five or six players in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen, the Bucks take CJ. Allen, the linebacker out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Leavonte David just retired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sixteen, this is the Jets pick from the Sauce

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Speaker 2: Gardner trade with the Colts. They take Jordan Tyson. So

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Speaker 2: three wide receivers off the board there in the top sixteen.

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Speaker 3: That's curious what receivers would have been looking at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Arizona State guy from from just about six

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Speaker 3: From last popular in the Neck of the Woods.

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Speaker 2: Number seventeen, Detroit Lions take Monroe Freeling, the true out

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Speaker 2: I think they might sign in blood for that right now. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this too is starting to become a very popular mock.

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Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings take Dylan than safety out of Oregon

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Speaker 2: Jockey replace Harrison Smith nineteen venga Yo, wanna guard?

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Speaker 3: I was curious out there.

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Speaker 2: And then twenty right before the Steelers, the Cowboys take

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, And in that scenario, I wouldn't have no

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Speaker 3: problem with Procer. I mean everyone knows. I'm like, ye,

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Speaker 2: He sure does, sure does. The real shocker of this

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Speaker 2: with a lot of the health concerns and things like that.

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Speaker 2: But we caught up with our buddy Max Starks. He's

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Speaker 2: funny enough. Max is here, but he's on radio with

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Speaker 2: the Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona, on location for the League meetings,

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Speaker 2: Well Shuler, Matt Williamson, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You are tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio down the home stretch here on day number two.

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Speaker 2: I guess we're a little over the halfway point, Matt,

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Speaker 2: of our league meetings coverage here. This is the bonus

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Speaker 2: third hour of today. We will be back tomorrow Tuesday

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Speaker 2: for another three hour, award winning edition of the Drive,

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Speaker 2: which will be I think we'll have plenty of you know, today,

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Speaker 2: the news that we discussed was mostly league wide stuff

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Speaker 2: and then you know, some Miles Garrett and AJ Brown

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Speaker 2: and some trade stuff. But Tomorrow. Mike McCarthy will be

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Speaker 2: speaking at the breakfast here early in the morning, so

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Speaker 2: we'll have some of that also throughout the day. Omar

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Speaker 2: Kahan and mister Rooney are going to UH to speak

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Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh media as well.

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Speaker 3: Stealer centric stuff. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, I think will be our most Steeler centric day

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Speaker 2: of this three days.

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Speaker 3: That we're doing out here, absolutely and UH and I

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Speaker 3: know that that there'll be a lot of good stuffalk

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Speaker 3: about tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be music to UH to our listener's ears

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Speaker 2: and UH and yes, so we're looking forward to UH

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Speaker 2: for for all of that. So let's go to the

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Speaker 2: tweets we've been We've been kind of doing this to

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Speaker 2: close down our shows for the last few weeks. We

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Speaker 2: we made this a thing where we were just doing

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Speaker 2: a a ex twitter as Dale would have called it

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Speaker 2: a segment to to close up our shows, but we

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Speaker 2: were getting so many tweets we turned it into two segments.

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Speaker 3: We a three hour show.

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Speaker 2: We got three hour show. It's the off season two,

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Speaker 2: so there's not as much you know, immediate things that

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Speaker 2: we have to discuss like we do during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: And as long as you all participate and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: We will continue to UH to welcome your participation. Sudesh

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Speaker 2: leads us off here today, he says, I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: guys have access to real Mexican food for a couple

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Speaker 2: of days. We do as well too, Ye's I was

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Speaker 2: driving back from the baseball game last night, Matt I

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Speaker 2: was talking to our UH. I was talking to my

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Speaker 2: my uber driver and about Pittsburgh in the weather and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, and I was like, man, I was like,

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Speaker 2: we've gone out for Mexican food twice already, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we will a couple more times. And she was like,

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Speaker 2: you don't have good Mexican food in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, I mean there's some, but now

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Speaker 3: it's not like.

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Speaker 2: The Italian scene's great, the Asian scene's great in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: There's really good food in Pittsburgh, just not Mexican food

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Speaker 2: like there is here. Oh it's time closed, Yeah, sudsh Ads,

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Speaker 2: I love the idea of extending Cook and Spencer Anderson,

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Speaker 2: as well as potentially drafting one or two offensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get a bunch, but.

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Speaker 2: I need to know who are the interior defensive linemen

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Speaker 2: in this draft? Class that you guys fancy. I don't

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Speaker 2: I fancy some as two picks.

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Speaker 3: I know, one on day one. Yeah, maybe there's a

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Speaker 3: diamond in the rough, fourth round, third round, something like that.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see a lot of difference makers. And

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Speaker 3: I think you can live with the d line you

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Speaker 3: have right now.

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Speaker 2: I think you can too, and I think that's a

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Speaker 2: good way for you to put it. Difference makers. But

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Speaker 2: there are guys that I think could be a nice fit,

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Speaker 2: albeit not a drastic position a need for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't spend the fifty third overall pick to do it,

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Speaker 2: but I.

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Speaker 3: Do think it's the only one I do.

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Speaker 2: Banks is obviously the one with the huge upside. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I do like Lee Hunter. I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to like in his game.

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Speaker 3: If he was a fifty third pick, I would understand it.

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Speaker 2: I I you know, I I know that they don't

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Speaker 2: need the pure nosyish guys as much anymore, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I do like big Citrus Dominique Orange out of Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: I think KATEI McDonald from from Ohio State is going

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Speaker 2: to go way too early for liking.

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Speaker 3: Took him at fifty three. I'd be like, great, great, great,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think that's gonna happen. It's realistic. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I just don't see where that Mary's Marry's up.

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Speaker 2: Same same Peter Woods is not for us. We've had

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Speaker 2: that conversation a few times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think he fits what they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: I like Dante Corleone, but he would have to be

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Speaker 2: a later Like you.

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Speaker 3: Said, I grabbed him the fourth round. I'm like, oh cool, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's exciting. Yeah, getting a day three absolutely, but but

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Speaker 3: there's a shortage, and I think they're gonna go a

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Speaker 3: little earlier than you like. But I bet, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't wouldn't shock me if they took.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: They used a pick on one and defensive lineman of

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Speaker 3: some sort pushed the logan Lee's and those type of guys.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, exactly right, which and that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of times. That's what those later picks are about. Two

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Speaker 2: is about bringing in competition for camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that cop guys battle it out, shines.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, the old two dogs one bone atage right.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steel tweets us and says question for the drive,

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Speaker 2: love the show, Well, thank you We appreciate that. It's

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Speaker 2: always good to butter us up in these tweets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us a better chance we pick you.

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Speaker 2: Tell us how much? Tell us how much you love us.

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Speaker 2: Did a mock draft over the weekend where I traded

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Speaker 2: pick fifty three, seventy five and one thirty five to

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Speaker 2: Chicago for fifty seven and sixty. Is that a fair

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Speaker 2: trade something you would consider?

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Speaker 3: So basically, you you moved back back a couple spots.

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Speaker 2: Back for spots in the second round, gave away your

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Speaker 2: first third round pick, but you picked up an extra

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Speaker 2: second rounder in the process, so you end up having

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Speaker 2: two second round picks and two third round picks.

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Speaker 3: I mean it seems fair. I mean the move back

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Speaker 3: is not that drastic. So basically you're saying, is it

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Speaker 3: worth taking two of those thirds to get a late second.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to comment. Depends what's out there, of course,

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Speaker 3: but I could see a move like that being something they.

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Speaker 2: Sue and to kind of, you know, piggyback. We discussed

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Speaker 2: this a little bit with Jeremy Fowler. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's going to be nearly as much movement as we

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Speaker 2: see in the first round of the NFL draft. Typically

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Speaker 2: there's not the quarterbacks to trade for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don who the targets will be to

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Speaker 3: come up for.

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Speaker 2: There's not a Travis Hunter type, you know, crazy crazy

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Speaker 2: blue chip prospect. But I think in the second and

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Speaker 2: third round, the day two, I think we'll see a

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Speaker 2: lot more two trades than usual. So I can see

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Speaker 2: that day one, day two it'll be up because I

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Speaker 2: think that is, as we've discussed, the sweet spot for

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Speaker 2: so many of these position groups that do feel like.

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Speaker 3: You might pay a little more to grab the guy.

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Speaker 3: That boy, they're still sitting there and I love him

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Speaker 3: and I have a higher grade than the rest of

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Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, I don't think that's crazy talk either.

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay just walked past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just walked into that room right there with

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Speaker 2: the big do not enter sign on it across from us.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think he is walking in there?

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Speaker 2: That was That was funny to me because I think

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Speaker 2: that's the first time I've ever seen him. I've been

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Speaker 2: doing this, I've been doing roll down forever, but the

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Speaker 2: RAMS don't send people anywhere, so you never see any

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Speaker 2: of their guys. I'm like, oh, that's Sean McVay. I

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Speaker 2: don't know I've ever seen him walk. Oh, I bet

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Speaker 2: I will. He was wearing he was wearing a nice,

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Speaker 2: nice blue suit there. I'm sure he's ready to go

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Speaker 2: for this evening. H r J tweets.

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Speaker 3: I wonder why they no one can enter in there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're shooting some apparently, right, that's the room where

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Speaker 2: the coaches breakfast is too.

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Speaker 3: And it's been empty basically since.

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Speaker 2: And I was hoping that they were going to have

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Speaker 2: the stuff set up for tomorrow because I was gonna

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Speaker 2: grab a nice stalk picture of the Mike McCarthy table. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: to put out there on the social content for everybody.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see. Before we can get out

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Speaker 2: of here, Matt's also going to try and sneak into

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Speaker 2: the Nike apparel room before we get out of here.

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Speaker 3: See how that goes.

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Speaker 2: See if he can grab us some swag. I've heard

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Speaker 2: all in the past about all the Nike swag. I

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Speaker 2: gotta I gotta get me some here this year. RJ

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Speaker 2: tweets and asks if the Steelers draft two wide receivers,

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Speaker 2: what do you guys think that means for Roman Wilson?

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Speaker 2: Is he a trade candidate, cut candidate? Keep him as

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Speaker 2: a depth piece.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, I think they'll keep six

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Speaker 3: on the roster, and right now I only see three

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Speaker 3: that are pretty much guaranteed spots Pittman, Metcalf, Scronic. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so could you draft to and keep Wilson? Sure? I mean,

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Speaker 3: if he's good, absolutely. I don't think if you dangled

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Speaker 3: him in trade the day after the draft, you're going

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Speaker 3: to get the return you're looking for. You're getting like

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Speaker 3: a six round pick for a team that liked them

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Speaker 3: two years ago. I mean that was he's putting nothing

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Speaker 3: on tape too. Yeah, so I think you bring him

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Speaker 3: the camp, coach him up and hope he's good.

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Speaker 2: Who would have And maybe this is a dumb question

622
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Speaker 2: because the answer is neither. But between Roman Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, do you think there's one that would clearly

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Speaker 2: be more attractive to the rest of the league.

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Speaker 3: Johnson's only one year removed that that.

626
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Speaker 2: Was my only process.

627
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Speaker 3: Status, you know. I mean, again, both players would have

628
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Speaker 3: to be a team that really liked them coming out,

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Speaker 3: not that one would be better than the other, but

630
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Speaker 3: being one year removed and makes that more likely. But

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Speaker 3: I still think you're it's driving a new car off

632
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Speaker 3: the lot, you're I mean, I think a team's an

633
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Speaker 3: offer your six round pets.

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Speaker 2: That's a great example.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Second, you drive that thing off the lot. It's worth

637
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Speaker 2: way less than it was ten minutes early.

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Speaker 3: And there's no I mean what wearing tears on Johnson's

639
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Speaker 3: tires or whatnot. Very little. I mean, he's not much

640
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Speaker 3: of a different matters right, Yeah, but no one's going

641
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Speaker 3: to give you close to what you paid for it. No,

642
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Speaker 3: I mean, at this stage, bring them both the camp

643
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Speaker 3: and hope that they're the player you drafted.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the more valuable is that one of

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Speaker 2: them proves that they belong and put their hand in

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Speaker 2: the pile. Yeah, as opposed to you pick up a

647
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Speaker 2: late day three pick for one of them.

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Speaker 3: If either one can have rosterable value, that's better than

649
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Speaker 3: another future six Yes, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, completely agree. Let's see here, California bound tweets us.

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Speaker 2: Hey we're not too not too far away, couple, couple,

652
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Speaker 2: just a think about a ninety minute draft to the

653
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Speaker 2: to the California state line from here, not too not

654
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Speaker 2: too far away. What are the odds that the Steelers

655
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Speaker 2: draft an offensive linemen, particularly a tackle, in the first round.

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Speaker 2: There's so much to be said to have that position

657
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Speaker 2: solidified prior to drafting your quarterback of the future, or

658
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Speaker 2: would you try and wait until later rounds California Bound.

659
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Speaker 2: I don't know how often you listen to this show,

660
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: but this is something that has been a theme of

661
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Speaker 2: Matt and I both agree. When you are shopping for

662
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Speaker 2: left tackles, when you are shopping tackles in general, but

663
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Speaker 2: particularly left tackles, when you're shopping for quarterbacks, those are

664
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Speaker 2: luxury items.

665
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Speaker 3: Well, there's expensive items.

666
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: You don't go to the bargain bin.

667
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: No, right, agreed.

668
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: You don't go to the ninety nine cent store. Okay,

669
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Speaker 2: you go to Whole Foods and you get the best

670
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: of the best, your very best. You don't go to

671
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: the used car dealership. You go to Mercedes Benz and

672
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: BMW and Porchinaudi, and you're looking for luxury. You're looking

673
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: for top of the line expensive, and it's very difficult.

674
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Matt and I both agree our worst case scenario for

675
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Speaker 2: the Steelers is that we're sitting here a year from now,

676
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: staring down the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft, and you

677
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: need a left tackle and a quarterback.

678
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's almost an impossible task, especially if you're

679
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to move up in the first round and

680
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: use your second round pick to move up. And so

681
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Speaker 3: the short answer to question is, I think it's very probable.

682
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they would be your starting left tackle week one.

683
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: Maybe they would play left guard or be in the

684
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: mix or fight with Cook or whatever. But I think

685
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: a tackle slash, a left side of the line player

686
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: is going to be a priority, and maybe two of them.

687
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I think one are not saying it necessarily

688
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: has to be the first round. But man, the more

689
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: and more we go through all these scenarios, it feels

690
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 2: like that's the most likely position to be there at

691
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: twenty one, and there's.

692
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: Some good guys available, probably in that neighborhood.

693
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Speaker 2: Yes, Whereas you could be on wide receiver five by

694
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: the time you know pick twenty one rules around, there

695
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: could be three or four of those guys off the board, yes,

696
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: and there certainly could be for the offensive line too,

697
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: but it feels like a deeper group.

698
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Speaker 3: And I also think the Day two receivers are way

699
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Speaker 3: more attractive than the Day two tackles for sure, and

700
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Speaker 3: probably the Day two lineman.

701
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, on that one. Yeah, Day two receivers

702
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: are one of the more attractive attractive groups I think,

703
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: just overall in terms of value potentially for this draft

704
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: that begins to.

705
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Speaker 3: In every draft different. But I urge people just to

706
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 3: look around and see all the wide receivers that are

707
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: drafted on Day two that are starting and productive as

708
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Speaker 3: opposed to all the tackles that were drafted on Day

709
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Speaker 3: two that are starting in productive. It's time close.

710
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Speaker 2: It's a vastly, vastly different world between those two. And

711
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Speaker 2: he tweets us and says, now, this is an interesting one.

712
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: You hear you know about how players fall in the draft.

713
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Do players actually fall in the draft or is that

714
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: just a reflection of outsider expectations versus the team's actual

715
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: value in draft boards and what they think in house.

716
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, like I get a kick out of in

717
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: all draft analysts like Sanders last year. Yeah, but I

718
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: mean almost the opposite happens this time of year. Oh,

719
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: this guy is a big riser. Well, that just means

720
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: like Daniel Jeremiah and Todd mcshahe are talking the teams

721
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: that have loved this guy since the start, and they

722
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: start to get tuned in that Oh, he's not rising.

723
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything different to change his outlook.

724
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Or is yeah, they're not playing games this time of

725
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: year spoiler alert.

726
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: No. So, you know, sometimes risers in the mock draft

727
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: world just means that mock drafters were a little late

728
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: to the party, which it's that's not their fault. I

729
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: mean that's the way that works. And I think the

730
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: same thing's true about fallers. Now. Fallers are different because

731
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: so much of fallers are from things we don't know absolutely.

732
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: And it's character, it's off the field, it's medical sometimes,

733
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: especially especially medical, you know, like dude's got a neat

734
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: can't I mean we think he's second round player. I can't.

735
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm not taking a second round player.

736
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: It might only last for four years in this league.

737
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Speaker 3: Base he fall into the fifth. It's almost always those reasons.

738
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Speaker 2: Let's see here a couple couple uh questions from Jeff.

739
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: First of all, he says, no replacement refs, please get

740
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Speaker 2: a deal done. Would you guys consider adding one more

741
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver and free agency? And then one being the draft?

742
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Is there anybody that fits that bill? Also, any rumors

743
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: out there at the meetings about discussions on an eighteen

744
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: game season being in the cards in the next couple

745
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Speaker 2: of years.

746
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Speaker 3: I haven't heard a lot of that yet, but but.

747
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: I would think it. I think it is. Yes, Yeah,

748
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: we haven't heard that directly, but that's got to be

749
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: something that is being discussed.

750
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: And to pull back the curtain too. I mean, we've

751
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: been sitting here not just mingling with everybody, and you know,

752
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: like the party tonight, I'm sure things will be like

753
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: eighteen name schedules coming up, you know. They just I

754
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: feel like that's a foregone conclusion. I don't have a

755
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: great free agent target wide receiver that boy I'm super

756
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: excited about. But I also haven't studied that list. I

757
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: would think that's probably an after the draft thing, with

758
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: the draft's only twenty four days away. See how the

759
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: draft goes. Maybe you look at I'm gonna bring one

760
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: more guy in for competition and Wilson or this free

761
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: agent will get a roster spot or you know something

762
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, or someone gets cut because of cap

763
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: reasons or you.

764
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Speaker 2: Know, exactly right, exactly right. That's that's all kind of

765
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: just the stuff that you have to I think.

766
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Speaker 3: I kind of think they're done between now and I

767
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: think in terms of free agents not named Aaron Rodgers.

768
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Speaker 2: That's I was just gonna say, with the one exception

769
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: potentially being the quarterback without a doubt, I mean, I think, Matt,

770
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Speaker 2: I think we would all like to have that resolved

771
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: here sooner rather than later. Yes, is the best way

772
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: to put it. Is is certainly the best way to

773
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: put it. Let's see here, we got time for one

774
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Speaker 2: more before we before we take a break. Josiah tweets

775
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Speaker 2: us it says, uh, like when you guys talk about

776
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: the prospects that are on Bruce Feldman's freak list, I

777
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: think it would be an interesting segment to go back

778
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: through some of the past years and see how the freaks.

779
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Turned out in the NFL. Okay, that's a pretty good call. Actually, yeah,

780
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: maybe a fun exercise. Maybe that's a well past the

781
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: draft of the year.

782
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: When we could kill an hour. I'll keep that one

783
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: book mark, though, Josiah, because that's a good question. You

784
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: know who I know, like just off the top of

785
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: my head, I remember Micah Parsons was crazy high on

786
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: his free freaks list.

787
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: Actually, it is funny how.

788
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: That where it's almost like Penn at least James Franklin

789
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: like had a type when he was when he was recruited.

790
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: Always have athletes, it always tests well.

791
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: I always have athletes that that test very well. I

792
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: remember Michael Parsons being crazy high on his list. That's

793
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: that's one that I can that's that I can remember

794
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: being being an absolute hit. I do remember Johnny Manziel

795
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: is pretty high on his list, and that was one

796
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: that was one that was a pretty big miss. Right,

797
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: So those are ones.

798
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: There wasn't lack of athleticism exactly right.

799
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: Exactly right. Those are ones kind of off the top

800
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: of my head. But like I said, Josiah, I'll keep

801
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: that book marked and maybe it's a good project. Yes, summer,

802
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: maybe sometime here post draft and we have.

803
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: Look at the twenty twenty two frea clists. Yeah, who hit?

804
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Who hit? Right? Yea yea yeah, No, that's it.

805
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: That's why those.

806
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Guys are actually not even draft eligible, right, especially the

807
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: one that comes up before the season.

808
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Yes, because they're not just draft eligible guys. Now. The

809
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: biggest freak like Josiah Smith, has been on that list

810
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: for since. Jeremiah Smith part of me, the wide receiver

811
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 2: from Ohio State that's going to be a top three

812
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: pick next year has been on that list since he

813
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: was a freshman, over and over these past two seasons.

814
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: Let's take our last break of today. We will come

815
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Speaker 2: back with our ninth and final segment of this Monday

816
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: inside the Builtmore in Phoenix, Arizona West Shooler Matt Williamson.

817
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: It's all part of our ongoing NFL League Owners Meetings

818
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Speaker 2: coverage here on the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the

819
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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

820
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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

821
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

822
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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Mondays Shuler,

823
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. We have been enjoying ourselves here at the

824
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: league meetings. We will have one more day of coverage

825
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: for you here on site tomorrow before we all fly

826
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Speaker 2: back to Pittsburgh on Wednesday and get back to our

827
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Speaker 2: studios and the regular routine. Been a lot of fun

828
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Speaker 2: out here, Matt, and we will get back into some

829
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Speaker 2: tweets and some things like that before we get out

830
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: of here. But a couple more I guess news notable

831
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Speaker 2: news items. Okay, you know, in the three hours that

832
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: we've been here, some other things that have leaked out

833
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: and filtering in that I think are important to kind

834
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: of get on the record here today. The first being

835
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Speaker 2: something that we discussed yesterday. Yesterday, you and I to

836
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of set the scene, you know, we did. I

837
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: think we called it like a league meetings for one one,

838
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, like I need to know type primer. One

839
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: of the things that we discussed was the proposal by

840
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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns to allow teams to trade draft picks

841
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: five years in advance, yes, as opposed to the current rule,

842
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: which is just three years in advance. Well, Matt, I

843
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: think it seemed nuts to everybody, because the Browns have

844
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: pulled that proposal out of consideration just recently here according

845
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Speaker 2: to the NFL.

846
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: Network, Okay, adds up to me. I can't imagine that's

847
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: what the NFL wants to do.

848
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. And I think part of that was

849
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: probably I'm sure that the early consensus was that that's

850
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: not going to pass. No way, we don't want to

851
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: do that, and so they just thought, no need to

852
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: waste time on this, let's let's table it, let's pull

853
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: it off the agenda.

854
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems like it lends itself to having

855
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: non competitive football games, especially late in the year, which

856
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: is a last thing they want.

857
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, Matt. Also, I mentioned to you that

858
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: we saw Sean McVay walking past a few minutes ago,

859
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: which is a less than you usual sighting because the

860
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: Rams kind of handle these things and don't send as

861
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: many people. They have a different They kind of march

862
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: to the beat of their own drum and it's it's

863
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: worked out for them. They do their own thing. But

864
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, of course had to do the head coaches

865
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: media vailage yeah, for the NFC AFC is tomorrow, and

866
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: he admitted that they explored the possibility of trading DeVante Adams,

867
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Speaker 2: but ultimately decided it wasn't best for the team. Quote.

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Speaker 2: If we felt like it was best for our team,

869
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: we would have done that, but we didn't think that

870
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Speaker 2: that was best for our team. We really talked about

871
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: some different avenues of onboarding players and how it might

872
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: affect Davante. We had discussions, and we have discussions all

873
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: the time. There's a lot of stuff out there that's

874
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 2: not accurate, but when at least some of it is accurate,

875
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: you want to deal with that directly. And there's been

876
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: instances where it wasn't as much a conversation in previous years,

877
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: and we didn't want to make those same mistakes. I

878
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: think he understands this is all part of the business.

879
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, he's a Ram

880
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: because that's what's best and I'm excited to move forward.

881
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: With himciate the honesty there, you know, That's exactly what

882
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, we talked about it. I mean

883
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: they talk about a lot of things, you know. I

884
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: mean that the fact that they talked about it, like,

885
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure Devonte is professional enough to realize, you know,

886
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: that that's not taking it seriously or they don't like us,

887
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: or blah blah blah. He's up in age, he's got

888
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: one more year in his contract. You could get something

889
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: for him. But deep down, I think the Rams, maybe

890
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: more than any team in the league, are most interested

891
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: about winning this Super Bowl and trading him is not

892
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: going to get you there. You know, that's that's not

893
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: the goal. So I think they're in it to win it,

894
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: and they maybe they will draft a receiver with that

895
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: twelfth pick or whatever it is. That wouldn't surprise me

896
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: one bit. Prepare for life after him. They also need

897
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: to think about a PUKA contract, especially after JSN just

898
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: signed for a massive deal. He's gonna want that plus

899
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: one one dollar, you know, and that's a lot of money.

900
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: So who knows. But trading him doesn't make a ton

901
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: of sense.

902
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: No, it does not. No, no, it does not. From

903
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: one wide receiver conversation to another. Also at you know,

904
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: speaking at the head coach's breakfast this morning, was Brian Schottenheimer,

905
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, and said basically that

906
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: he doesn't have any assurances that George Pickens will be

907
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: in attendance for their offseason programs.

908
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that.

909
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: Said that they have not had any discussions with him

910
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: and his representatives about a multi year deal after they

911
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: did place that tag on him that will see him

912
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: earn a little over twenty seven million dollars this year.

913
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: So that's a massive in kind of the lines of

914
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: what guys make earlier in their career and the potential

915
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: to earn more of Yeah. Yeah, that's a massive, massive

916
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: bump for George Pickens and what he had been making

917
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: in the past. But no conversations around a multi year deal,

918
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: according to Brian Schottenheimer.

919
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have a lot to react to that.

920
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not uncommon for any player to sit

921
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: out OTA's and mini camps and stuff like that, especially

922
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: the non mandatory stuff. You know, I don't want to

923
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: have the contract. I exactly love yet, you know, sobeit

924
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: he does have a lot of negotiating power, but they

925
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: also have a lot of power in terms of that

926
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: franchise tag, which isn't the worst deal in the world.

927
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a guaranteed, big chunk, way more than

928
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: he's ever made, as you mentioned, and he gets to

929
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: be a free agent after the year again, so that's

930
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: encouraging too. Yeah, he's gonna be a cowboy this year.

931
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a cowboy this year, and I think

932
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: how it all plays out throughout the course of the

933
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: coming months is to be seen.

934
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's it a long term deal with a franchise tag.

935
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting traded or any of that

936
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

937
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: And if he goes out there and he has a

938
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: great year, it's not gonna matter regardless. He's gonna be

939
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: able to.

940
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: Today he's going to be top of the market type guy.

941
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: To name his price somewhere. Speaking of wide receivers, you know,

942
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: it's funny with John Harbaugh now in the fold again.

943
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: It was just so bizarre seeing him walking around wearing

944
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: giant stuff earlier today put me back to being a

945
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: part of the the NFC coaches conversations here, not the

946
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: AFC anymore. After what eighteen years with the Ravens. He

947
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: said that the Giants are at least open to the

948
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: possibility of allowing Odell Beckham Junior to have a second

949
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: stint with the team. He said, they are looking at

950
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: every option at wide receiver, and if Odell is a

951
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: viable one, they will absolutely look at him. Thirty three

952
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: years old. Man, he's played just nine games over the

953
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: past two seasons.

954
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a weird one in terms of what the

955
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: contract would look like.

956
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: Did he Was he ever a Raven He was for

957
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: a very brief time.

958
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so. That's why I threw it out there.

959
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: So they obviously liked them enough to sign him.

960
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: Like har Ball's at least, yes, there's at least some.

961
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: History been something there. I don't know.

962
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that ship is sailed, man.

963
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think we've seen the end of that.

964
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Like I realized he's a big name. He was just

965
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: a part of you know how we kind of were

966
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: joking about that that flag flag. He was just part

967
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: of that. But you know what so is Tom Brady

968
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady looked good. But that's that's a way, different, way,

969
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: different world.

970
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: You tell me to talk to me in week eight

971
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: after you've been beat.

972
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: Up, right, and you know since that, since that super

973
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: Bowl winning season with the Rams, didn't play at all

974
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, played fourteen games with the Ravens

975
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, and played nine games with Miami

976
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Nothing last year.

977
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really productive since the Rams.

978
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: No, exactly right, that's that's been a long time. I

979
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: mean that was you know, that was And I.

980
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Don't know what kind of distraction he is, but I

981
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: mean he's not gonna help you on special teams? Is

982
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: what kind of contract is he gonna want so you

983
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: can take a league minimum just to play one more year.

984
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a tough one. I can't see that.

985
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the type of deal where you get into

986
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: camp and all your all your options are exhausted, and

987
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: your wide receiver gets hurt and like, hey, Odell. You

988
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: want to come off the couch and see what you

989
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: got left or less or contender though that's yeah, I

990
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: think what's that do for the Giants?

991
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if he was like a Mike

992
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Evans type.

993
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was going to the Hall.

994
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: Of Fame and yeah, everybody raves about how great of

995
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: a leader he is. You just want to bring him

996
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: in to be that big brother in the room, but

997
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't.

998
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

999
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never really been the conversation with him before, Matt.

1000
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Different type of news here, but from Adam Schefter. Clemson

1001
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: cornerback Avion Terrell, who we've discussed, you know, first first

1002
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: round projected pick in the draft that's just twenty four

1003
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: years away, had his pro date at Clemson today and

1004
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: aggravated a hamstring energy on his very first run.

1005
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's not bad. But that's one of the things

1006
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: I hate, is these these late workouts. If anyone gets

1007
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: banged up whatsoever, and then teams, you know, can try

1008
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: to rush to get him in for a thirty visit

1009
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: to get their hands on them and talk to the

1010
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: agent and all that stuff. But that's one of the

1011
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: things that are you hate about this business. I mean,

1012
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 3: you know, injuries are going to happen, but sometimes when

1013
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: they happen right before the draft or you know, like

1014
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: on your biggest job interview type thing, it's like, oh,

1015
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: come on.

1016
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: You know it's going to It happens to everybody at

1017
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: some point. Yeah, but that's just that's the worst possible

1018
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: timing that you could that you could have on absolutely Also, Chef,

1019
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: they're updating the latest on the replacement refs situation that

1020
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: we've been continuing to monitor out here, saying that the

1021
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: league sent a memo to each club last week prohibiting

1022
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: public comment on the situation during the owner's meetings. But

1023
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: he says his sources have painted a quote dire portrait

1024
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: of the likelihood of an agreement before replacement officials are hired.

1025
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I mean we've heard nothing good about it

1026
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: so far. It coming from him makes you think, okay,

1027
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: this is sometimes. I mean a lot of different stories,

1028
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: as we know, are agent driven. You know, Mike, my clients,

1029
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: super thought after blah blah blah. This there's nothing to

1030
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: gain by saying, you know, things are dire, things are

1031
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: probably dire.

1032
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: And they are. It's still March. They don't play games

1033
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: and until you know, well, preseason games in August and

1034
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: then obviously regular season games starting in September. But right now,

1035
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine right now is probably about

1036
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: as far away as the two sides. And I'm pure

1037
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: speculating here, but they can still be very far away.

1038
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: They can both do the let's play chicken, let's make

1039
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: them blink first, they still do. As much as we

1040
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: talk about how quickly this league moves, and it does

1041
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: in this conversation, there is still some time there. Not

1042
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: a ton of time there, but a little a little

1043
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: bit of time to get that figured out.

1044
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound great, but it does. We're talking about this

1045
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: for a while. I have a feeling it did.

1046
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Certainly. On one hand, Matt, I'm glad because it'll be

1047
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: a content piece for us throughout. Maybe it's not the

1048
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: it's not the it's not the certainly the kind of

1049
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: stuff that that we want to be talking about in

1050
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things, as much as we might

1051
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: like it. From a story perspective, as our old friend

1052
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: Stan Savern would have said, root for the story again, Root.

1053
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: For the story that is something for the dog days.

1054
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: It is, but not not what Matt and I want

1055
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: to be discussing, but we will obviously continue to monitor

1056
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: tomorrow on our final day here and then stuff Man,

1057
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 2: and then going forward throughout the rest of the off season.

1058
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Good stuff today, Matt, I enjoyed the show today. We

1059
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: had some good fun. Thanks to Mike de Fabo of

1060
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: The Athletic and Jeremy Faller of ESPN for joining us

1061
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: tomorrow on the show. We're gonna have our buddy Chris Adanski,

1062
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: of course, the co host of of the Steelers Blitz

1063
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: with Tom Offerman. I think we'll have Alan Saunders of

1064
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: Steelers now and maybe we'll be able to nab another

1065
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: national person or two. I will also have some stories

1066
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: about this this fancy gathering.

1067
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's gonna be a lot of just Steeler

1068
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: stuff going on here tomorrow and.

1069
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: A lot of US Steelers brass. In fact, all three

1070
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: of the Power Trio of the Steelers Organization and Mike McCarthy,

1071
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: Omar Khan and mister Rudy all speaking in some capacity tomorrow.

1072
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: So we'll have a fun day to put a bow

1073
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: on our coverage tomorrow borrow. But that will do it

1074
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: for us here today. Thanks to our guests. Thanks to

1075
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Brian for producing for us back at the ranch, for

1076
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, oh and Jason on video duties for the

1077
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: settlers as well. For Matt Williamson, I'm Wesheeler. Take care everybody.

1078
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know

1079
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: where to find us. It's on your twenty four to

1080
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio

1081
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network